/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>48135139
>VShojo
>Vtuber
kek

>>48135139
I sure fucking hope so

>>48135245
https://youtu.be/chsiaVHwzjI

>indie bitches
>still using VShojo color and design motif

>>48135139
You are not belong to this hobby. Now go back to your twitch shithole

>>48135139
for the EN side of VTubing? Yes
for the JP side? No

>>48135439
>vshojo owns the color pink

It's more like the cliques are dying. Too much backstabbing and creating more enemies for yourself.

>>48135139
>Vei
>Silver
>Vtubers
RORU
RUMAO EVEN

Whatever those two whores are, they should be dying.

>>48135553
Nice infographic for ants

>>48135553
This seems like future cope when the JP bubble burst. I'm sure playing the same 3 games forever will give them long lasting staying power with how dumb they handle permissions.

>>48135139
>2 people leaving a group, keeping everything as if nothing happened
>both state their desire to stay indie in the foreseeable future
>WOWEE ITS LE HECKIN DYING

>>48135553

>>48135139
I don't watch whores
Did those two quit the company?

>>48135553
LMAO you dumb cunt. You also will never be Japanese.

>>48135553
I've been baited by yojr pic.

>>48135684
I mean this combined with what happened with Phase Connect is kinda big

>>48135679

>>48135684
>Leaving the "biggest" western corpo
It seem like vshojo is dying.

>>48135139
There dumb cunts are using the company say way they'd be using their husbands.
>spend a few years with them
>getting shit like money, attention or whatever
>divorce them the moment you bored or tired or think you could "do better"
>continue to leech off of them and what they've given you for the rest of your life

>>48135738
They chose not to renew their contracts. That's all I know, unless there's more to it.

>>48135139
It funny how they say indies, implying vshojo is not "indie" itself.

Fleshstreamers and twitchthots will never be vtubers.

Hololive will never die.

>>48136649
HoloEN will die.

>>48135758
I know I will never be Japanese. It just I want to have fun seeing people reaction with the image I found.

>>48135553
Why did you post the thumbnail?

>>48136944
but coco is a westerner

>>48135139
I hope so. Then I can finally go back to watching anime and playing games instead of watching someone else do that.

>>48137182
was. it's why she's dead now :)

>>48137229
She’s still alive, albeit in a different form

>>48135139
I love how all the people saying they'd boot out silvervale and veibae to appease the twitter crowd were proven right.

Did they say why they were leaving? Seems like a weird choice. Is it really the money? I mean a company does a lot of shit you don't have to worry about but I could see how a percentage cut could be a point of contention.

>>48135139
Vei already barely streams now that she's caught herself a millionaire boyfriend, so I'd wait until a couple more big names actually graduate before calling anything.

>>48137257
catering to westerns now

>>48135679
And with the same 3 games for the last 7 years, they are still on top and continue to grow, while the EN scenario died with the end of the pandemic.

>>48137445
She always catered to them. There would be no HoloEN without Coco.

>>48135679
"ThE SAmE ThrEEe GaMEs" - yeah, and like dozens of big events.

Hololive is surviving because they got it right and realized that streaming is not sustainable on its own. Constant concerts, events and works on other projects builds hype and revenue past whatever can be squeezes from Youtube or Twitch. This is where most other corpos fails.

>>48136944
I love how this image is anti-western but has Coco and Pikamee, who were probably the most western appealing JP VTubers due to how they spoke fluent English

>>48137913
HoloEN is a sum of Coco's work, clippers and early 2020 western vtubing explosion started by Melody, as much as I hate saying it. It would probably happen without her anyway.

>>48135816
what happened with PC

>>48137913
>speaks fluent english
>choses not to speak english except for a single sentence every 5 minutes
>she always catered to them
retard

>>48137329
Its most likely because of the direction being taken. Silvervale had that hogwarts legacy thing and froot response which would not have been as bad if she wasn't in vshojo.
Veibae affectively made it by dating soda so vshojo has ironically become limiting.
Ever since vshojo and other twitch vtubers either attaches themselves to otk the logic of even needing vshojo anymore became moot since otk and its shell org gives better incentives.

>>48135139
the normalfag whores will leave and only the menhera otaku will remain, vtubing is healing

>>48136944
Wasn't the first vtuber in 2013 british?
Even earlier and American if you want to count Annoying Orange.

>>48138154
Ome girl got terminated. Thats all we know for sure. Anything more is pure rrats

>>48135139
This is the dark age of corpo Vtubing. Only Hololive is safe at thé moment

>>48137953
>streaming is not sustainable on its own
This is some fucking cope from a holodrone that can't accept that holoEN are shitty streamers made even worse by cover's permission autism.

>>48135684
> Nijisanji is on fire
> Cracks appeared on stability of PC
> Infallible "talent freedom" of V-Shojo fails
> Even HoloEN is declining hard
> Besides lol Idol there's no other companies with actual capital and manpower to pick up slack

If you don't see that big, corporate Vtubing is declining on western side then you are clearly retarded.

>>48138398
There were no ENVTubers when Coco debuted. Even her only speaking English infrequently was more than any other girl in Hololive at the time. Which catered to westerners. Again, without Coco, there would be no HoloEN.

>>48138722
Nobody in PC but one girl even seemed to care much about Yuri getting axed. Everyone else just said something to the effect of "yeah, she did something dumb" and moved on to streaming normally.
PC is fine.

>>48138719
More like a cope of V-Shojo cuck that can't read. Go spend your money on le poor mousey, I'll laugh when Twitch will cut 50% from it and then Mousey will spend rest on getting railed by Conner.

>>48135139
Yeah because the novelty has worn off and people are realizing that most vtubers aren't interesting and are just streamers hiding their face behind a cute avatar but not doing anything cool with their tech/model. Corpos are failing because they all banked on vtubing being the next big thing but it hasn't evolved for like 3 years. I can't speak to the JP side of things but that seems to be how it is in the west.

>>48138903
The first three vtubers were literally white westerners. There are so many posers here holy shit lmao.
The first one that mattered in the english sphere is Coco though, sure, I'll give you that.

>>48138903
> There were no ENVTubers

Well and that's a fucking lie. EN Vtubing scene exist since 2016. Fact is that it got significant boost and growth in 2020, but it was not only Coco's work but also Melody's.

>>48139103
It's similar to a lot of things where one hobby / trend seems to be taking off like fire but it's only through the efforts of some impassionate individuals.
In japan it works out because the corpo ones don't break kayfabe or just become an irl streamer with an avatar.

>>48139126
>>48139156
I should have said “no major ENVTubers”

>>48139156
2012

I came to /lig/ so I could avoid any mention of vshojo. YOU CAN'T DO THIS TO ME!!

>>48135139
Bro Hololive is pretty much a Walled garden at this point they are Immune to this shit unless it's about Merch or Talents not streaming.

>>48135139
Vshojo dying would be more of the renaissance of Vtubing than anything else though. But in the EN side yes, Vtubing is dying for like one year and a half of so.

>>48139362
>Vshojo dying would be more of the renaissance of Vtubing than anything else
I agree entirely. It'd kill out so many 2views who thought having a rig was the secret to success after buying into the western hype and it'd mostly leave the impassionate behind.

>>48139354
>[hololive is] Immune to this shit unless it's about Merch or Talents not streaming.
>>48139103
>most vtubers [western] aren't interesting and are just streamers hiding their face behind a cute avatar
>>48139231
>In japan it works out because the corpo ones don't break kayfabe
These points are all related.
It comes down to a very non-western view point of creating entertainment and that's the difference in what makes something so niche like this work out in the long term.

>>48135139
VShojos hate vtubing

Realistically wtf does vshojo even do for their talent's besides scrape money off the top of donations? This goes for other small companies too i guess

>>48140947
Companies deal with a lot of backend things. Usually this would involve permissions, if you need them, organizing merchandising, and reach. In hololive's case it seems like they have a lot of responsibility regarding holding concerts. Although I don't think vshojo does anything like that.

>>48135139
FIVE (5) YEARS LEFT!

>>48135139
It's healing

>>48137329
If they have their own brand, their own fanbase and can manage themselves, what does vshojo do for them?

>>48135139
>some grifting whores leave some pseudo-agency
>some bing bing wahoo nigger on a mongolian basket-weaving forum thinks this is the end of vtubing

>>48142722
I mean one of the cofounders is twitch staff so you could get some connection advantages for any twitch related events or issues. I don't know much about vshojo specifically though.

>>48135139
Cant you monkeys stay in your sticky for fucks sake

>>48135139
kys

>>48136725
HoloJP is eternal

>>48143811
HoloID will live

How is HoloEN declining? Is this a numbers thing or that they're not streaming as often?

>>48138719
As long as they are willing things other than streaming, Cover will let them stay.

>>48138722
If EN Connect succeeds, it will pave the way for the future of HoloEN.

Or at least have their ways widen enough that they can just survive until the next big wave.

>>48138722
>Nijisanji is on fire
>HoloEN is declining hard

Neither of these are true.

>>48141745
Given how Ironmouse sign up with other talent agency to help deal with those things, I got feeling Vshojo is less about those things and more about the branding. Combining all the top female anime content creators (on Twitch) do count for something

>>48146146
Yes, but the biggest problem is lack of fresh blood. No EN3 in almost 2 years now.

>>48135139
Neuro-sama is doing fine

>>48136944
>meidos
go back on your dying board jpnig

>>48135139
So this is what Kson meant huh.

>>48135670
LULE

>>48146653
>Sold out in under a minute
>Merch sold a little over 95% of stock
It's pretty much a success already.

>>48146744
It's copium

Silver realized she was in a snakepit when they betrayed her. Vshojo and the girls didnt have her back. You know who did? Her fans and she realised they were all she needed so she left to be with her fans that she loves and loves her back. Very good choice. I love silver.
Don't care about vei at all though she can just suck sodas dick for money