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48027725 No.48027725 [Reply] [Original]

>they'll announce EN3 right after the Link Your Wish HoloFes to ride the 3D debut hype
>they'll announce EN3 right after ID3
>they'll announce EN3 right after Uproar, it's too crowded right now
>they'll announce EN3 on Golden Week, THE EN3 IS REAL
>they'll announce EN3 on June/July
>they'll announce EN3 right after Tempu-bahahahahha
>they'll announce EN3 right after summer, just you see
>they'll announce EN3 right after Council anniversary
>they'll announce EN3 right after Myth anniversary
>they'll announce EN3 on October, look at all those free days, they can even be horror themed
>they'll announce EN3 on November before the holiday season
>they'll announce EN3 right before HoloX's anniversary, trust the plan...
>they'll announce EN3 just before New Years, trust the PLAN
>they'll announce EN3 right after the new Tempiss gen no one asked for, TRUST YAGOO
>they'll announce EN3 before Our Bright Parade HoloFes, just think about the potential watchalong kino
>they'll announce EN3 right after HoloFes and both ID3 and Uproar anniversaries, y-you can't have a gen announcement on a Fes
>they'll announce EN3 this first week of April, the timing can't be more perfect
>they'll announce EN3 on either Golden Week, again, or the first week of May, again, YOU GOTTA BELIEVE, THE EN3 IS STILL REAL
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<<<YOU ARE HERE>>>
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>they'll announce EN3 right after the JP7/ID4 that just debuted on Golden Week finish their shilling month
>they'll announce EN3 right before the HoloEN concert for yet again another unfulfilled kino watchalong
>they'll announce EN3 on the HoloEN concert in LA, get hyped fellow EOPs
>they'll announce EN3 right after the Tempus anniversa-ahahahaha
>they'll announce EN3 after Council anniversary (2 YEARS WITHOUT A NEW GEN BTW)
>they'll announce EN3 after Myth anniversary
>they'll announce EN3 on October, look at all those empty weeks again, you gotta believe me this time
>they'll announce EN3 on November before the holiday season
>they'll announce EN3 on the actual fucking holiday season, just in time before ShilloX's 2nd Anniv
>they'll announce EN3 right after Tempiss 2 celebrates their anniversary that should have been EN3's in the first place
>they'll announce EN3 right before 2024 HoloFes so they can watch JP7 and maybe even ID4 show off their 3Ds, boy I sure wish they could have joined them, if only...
>they'll announce EN3 right before politicians and think tanks use chuubas as a scapegoat for the upcoming US elections
>they'll announce EN3 when...
>they'll announce EN3...
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>> No.48029118

EN3 is a myth

>> No.48029659

>>48027725
fuck yagoo and his incompetent ass

>> No.48029715

>>48027725
Im starting to believe the rrat that they cant get anyone to join.

>> No.48031339

>>48029715
>cover's audition filtering process is too strict, most "good enough" applicants rejected
>hopeful indie/small corpo chuubas that were rejected join idolen, eien, phaseconnect, etc. instead
>only chuubas left auditioning are either menheras, have poor work ethic, horribly ESL, or proverbial career gold diggers
>only other option is hiring non-chuubas again, mirroring Myth and ILuna
you rike?

>> No.48033032

>>48029118
no that was en1

>> No.48033100
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Maybe EN fans should stop being tumblr tier

>> No.48037352

Be happy with what you have.

>> No.48037511

There will be more male ENs than female and you will like it

>> No.48038361

The next gen will have one member for every branch in Hololive Productions:
>Hololive JP
>Hololive ID
>Hololive EN
>Holostars JP
>Holostars EN
It will have a theme of famous historical figures and will be released at the same time as HoloEarth.

>> No.48038964

>>48038361
This is bullshit but I believe it

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>>48033100
This Sakamatard doesn't look tard enough

>> No.48039165

>schizo "insider"fags shit up the board with baseless predictions on EN 3
>people take them seriously and count them as genuine predictions for EN 3
???

>> No.48039301

>>48027725
No I am not cause I couldn't give less of a fuck about a third gen. Where do you people even find the fucking time to watch them? There is no way you guys have jobs, what do you pay your memberships with? Dad's cash?

>> No.48043476

>>48031339
There's no strict filtering process considering some of the "gems" they got for Tempus. Cover just didn't have any plans for an EN3 and rushed to debut a StarsEN to not let Anycolor dominate the western male vtuber market like they do in Japan. Why is it so fucking hard to believe they're just retards who made a retarded bet?

>> No.48046131

>>48043476
There are no EN3 because Council are underperformed shitters and after HoloX (the least subbed generation by non-japanese speakers) they think the EN market can't sustain another EN gen.

>> No.48046521

>>48046131
And they still pushed 8 faggots who are performing worse than Council and the only thing they had it going were a few whales that are already starting to slow down with the donations/membership. What's your explanation for that? Stars have lesser expectations? Then why they pushed for 8 in less than 6 months?

>> No.48046857

>>48033032
Kek

>> No.48046892

>>48046521
Because the faggots are they own thing. For another different public.

>> No.48047038

>>48046892
A different public they utterly failed to grab while there are girls in other agencies who are growing without the need of the blue dorito buff. Yeah, they're still smaller than anyone in HoloEN but if someone who has all the debuffs possible got bigger than the 8 faggots who were pushed hard by Cover and some of the EN girls why wouldn't they do well as a HoloEN member?

>> No.48047586

>>48039301
NEETbux from being diagnosed with crippling autism.

>> No.48050593

>>48039301
No one here watches streams. They just want EN3 so they have something new to shitpost about.

>> No.48050983

>>48046521
>>48047038
Because they make money.
From 04/18 - 04/24 mem + giftmem for StarsEN
Altare - 0 (on planned vacation, hasn't streamed since 04/15)
Magni - 18 + 279
Axel - 19 + 310
Vesper - 29 + 87
Bettel - 196 + 552
Flayon - 31 + 277
Hakka - 172 + 1010(Birthday, subtract about 400 or so)
Shinri - 103 + 215
Total - 568 + 2730 = 3298
Things to consider
Only a weeks worth
Gifted mem is always tier 2 at 4.99 usd, you have some cases of monopoly currency but they're rare
All numbers just added up with a calculator on Hololyzer.
Previous weeks amounts >>47650575 (Total is 5715)

>> No.48051671
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48051671

>EN3 EN3 EN3 EN3
As someone in Stars put it: These are real people, they're not gachaslop pulls in some chinkshit mobile game. Watch the people who are already there.

>> No.48051789

>>48037511
>There will be more male ENs than female and you will like it
Tempus 3 getting released in June would line up with the December auditions. If the only priority is boosting Tempus there is some logic in releasing them before EN3 so they don't get overshadowed.

>> No.48052353

>>48050983
You post this everywhere and no one replies. It’s probably because no one cares about superchat or donation numbers outside of #s. Wow they make some money from whales? An EN3 would’ve done the same. Retard. The only number people want to talk about with Tempus is their viewer numbers. Considering some faggot said they were “by popular demand”

>> No.48052412

>>48051671
There are no “people” in StarsEN, only leeches. And nobody is watching them, sister.

>> No.48052445

>>48029715
This. There's no one good enough

>> No.48052631
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>>48051671
I want EN3 because I want a reason to watch EN.

>> No.48052813

>>48052353
>UHHH DONT TALK ABOUT THE MONEY FROM MEMBERSHIPS LETS TALK ABOUT THE VIEWS!!
rumao

>> No.48052883

>>48050983
K, and? Is that really a justification for no EN3 for 20+ months when there's a huge chance the 5 new girls would perform way better on multiple metrics outside of just youtube money?

>> No.48052916

>>48046521
They can afford to be picky

>> No.48052957

Arguably, the best time to announce it would have been after the Fes.
>Screen goes black
>Phone rings
>Different colored dialogue talks about Fes and how they want to do it as well (or were too late to crash it)
>5 silhouettes appear and then fade out
>Time and date appear
However, that changed when EN Connect was announced. Maybe (and it's a hard maybe) EN3 will be announced after Connect.

>> No.48052958

>>48027725
EN3 won't happen until you lose your virginity and we all know that is never happening

>> No.48053115

>>48051671
>Watch the people who are already there.
They'd have to stream first
We need EN3 to fill the streaming gaps of Myth and Council

>> No.48053190

Who should join EN3?

>> No.48053341

>>48052813
Why would I care about anything else? An EN3 would’ve made more money. So why do I care how much the fags would make. Their VODviews and ccv show that the “popular demand” was just some retarded managers cope.

>> No.48053396

>>48052916
>afford
Almost every single former indie people thought would end in EN3 got picked by either the multiple corpos out there or Niji, and this isn't 2020/21 anymore so I doubt they're willing to completely drop what they got just because the blue dorito finally remembered that the open auditions were for HoloEN as well. Who they have left now? The other indies who managed to grow during the time Cover decided that putting all their chips into StarsEN would be the smartest idea ever? I don't believe there's absolutely no one talented out there, but at this point Cover will have to bet on girls who had a smaller internet presence than most of Myth and Council.

>> No.48053433

>>48047038
>There are girls in other agencies who are growing
Do you really believe it?

>> No.48053495

>>48053433
A lot a doing better than most of your homos, sister.

>> No.48053732

>>48053495
>didn't mention homos
>immediately talks about homos
Wow, but your small corpo whores are all doing kind of shitty. This notion that HoloEN fans are leaving because there is no EN3 and going and watching PRISM Project or something is just simply not happening. The only one who gets what I would even consider decent viewership is Pippa and that is only because she leeched off of Ethan Ralph and all the drama surrounding him. All she does is bottom of the barrel tier react content.

>> No.48053840

>>48053732
Pippa already mogs the Homos and I doubt he was thinking of her as an example. Like she already shits on the average Tempfag.

>> No.48053986

>>48053840
Ok, I wasn't talking about Homos. You seem a little obsessed. Pippa is also a drama monger who depends on faggots like Ethan Ralph to leech off of with garbage react content. I wouldn't be proud of her viewership.

>> No.48054008

Quick reminder that there's a chance you'll see tempus3/homoEN-other-gen because the male auditions were advertised about two weeks before tempus 2, and tempus 2 was all picked about six months before said promo tweet. They're still looking for more, though that might have changed by now. But the chance of more homoEN instead of EN3 is actually a very real possibility.

>> No.48054163

>>48053732
>only because she leeched off of Ethan Ralph
She has like 3 times his viewership and that's with cozy.gov's fake viewer numbers lmao
Do your lolcow reps anon

>> No.48054195

>>48053732
So if you're not talking about homos why the "there are girls in other agencies who are growing" bothered you so much? The whole point is that there are people out there who are doing fine without needing the HoloEN stamp, so why did Cover pushed for 8 faggots whose only decent metric is how much they can milk their whales and didn't debut an EN3?

>> No.48054639

>>48054195
Yeah, all of those small corpos are doing fine. With random terminations and entire generations of vtubers just up and leaving suddenly. So great.

>> No.48054951

>>48054639
Are we forgetting Rushia and Sana last year? Or actually more than I can count with Nijisanji during the same period? And you still didn't tell me why betting on 8 faggots was a better choice than just debuting HoloEN3.

>> No.48055061

>>48054951
Rushia was an isolated case and Sana left voluntarily. Not comparable at all to an ENTIRE generation leaving and then the current members shit talking them and the constant dramas with Phase (shit) Connect (shit).

>> No.48055100

>>48055061
Cool. Still no answer to the EN3 question.

>> No.48055609

>>48055100
I don't know if you know this or not, but not everyone who watches holoen watches holostars and vice versa. Case in point (You)
Cover is trying to catch another audience and cash in on the success of nijimales. (You) can seethe all you want, but that's what it is. It's about expanding the market to appeal to as many people as possible and draw the most in. That's just how corporations work.

>> No.48055914

>>48052883
The only reason you think they will perform better is because your mind is still stuck on 2020. You fucking neet. The Blue Dorito buff no longer exist. The people have moved, returned to the normal live and no longer have spare time to watch another 5 streamers on top of what the ones that they already watch.
Council being absolute shitters (with one leaving before a year) are the only ones guilty that Cover got cold feet.

>> No.48056336

>>48027725
>TEMPUS stole EN3 spot
>They're Holostars
>Schizos insinuate that EN3 and Tempus are the same and start comparing their achievements to the girls even though they target different audiences
>Gaslights the board by saying they're not EN3 despite the numberfagging they're doing on a daily basis and the psyop they've been pushing since August 2022
/vt/ really is a shithole for Twittards they're pulling out all the stops

>> No.48056345

>>48055914
This is cope. EN3 would do better than whatever these faggots are doing.

>> No.48056417

ID is just better EN especially since we got Kaela.

>> No.48056490

>>48055609
And they could've expanded the market without delaying EN3 indefinitely, not to mention what new market? 4 of them struggle to go above 1k views without raids and they rarely retain that audience, and the other 4 are having troubles going above 2k without heavily buffed streams, not to mention how some of their JP senpai are now having better sub growth than most of them. The only thing they have going for them are the whales that, again, are starting to dry up.

>>48055914
Council being "shitters" makes no sense nowadays when they are doing better than Myth on average, and the 8 homos they pushed are doing worse. The people who "moved on" also don't give a shit about Tempus, so why Cover betting everything on them was a better decision than just continuing with what they had going on with an third gen?

>> No.48056553

>>48056345
They better hit above 500k. Otherwise it's a waste of investment. At least HolostarsEN is lenient that they should hit 100k subs before they get a new one. New goal is that Vanguard should get 200k before they get Tempus 3.

>> No.48056584

>>48056345
They probably would be Ollie tier, si basically in the same real as tempus.

>> No.48056770

>>48056553
Cover invested in 8 fully rigged models based on artwork of artists who aren't no names in the industry in less than a year, and afaik a male model doesn't cost less than a female one. Why's that not a waste of investment while 5 girls somehow costs an exorbitant amount now?

>>48056584
Sure thing, sister.

>> No.48056838

>>48039301
>what do you pay your memberships with
Imagine giving money to vtubers

>> No.48056945

>>48056838
what else am i gonna do with it? give it to real women?

>> No.48056980

>>48056490
>Council being "shitters" makes no sense nowadays when they are doing better than Myth on average
After two years and with Gura & Ina missed and Ame self destruction it's the least that could be expected of them.
After that performance, I bet Cover is nervous of having a gen full of streamers with Roboco, Mel or Aki numbers.

>> No.48057182

>>48056770
They have had those models far longer than you think. They probably already have those rigged models for 5 new girls. They haven't found anyone
>They haven't found anyone to fill EN3 for nearly 2 years since Council
Apparently. Sana leaving dealt more of a blow than you all realized.

>> No.48057305

>>48056980
So they're too nervous for a new HoloEN gen but not nervous enough to not push for 8 faggots who are now doing barely any better than the failed StarsJP branch? And why are you so certain that an EN3 would underperform like that?

>>48057182
If they didn't find anyone why didn't they shill the auditions like they did 3 times for StarsEN in less than a year, with two of these times being stupidly close to the debut of both Tempus gens?

>> No.48057446

>>48056838
Imagine outing yourself as a greyfag

>> No.48057500

>>48057305
Maybe they straight up aren't interested till Council hits 1m subs, or at all.

>> No.48057533

>>48057305
>If they didn't find anyone why didn't they shill the auditions
I don't know if you've been living under a rock but they have been shilling auditions for HoloEN. If there's an announcement for a HololiveEN audition that means EN3 is filled and they're looking for EN4.
Just recently ID is getting shilled so expect an ID4 to come out.
As for Tempus. They were supposed to be six but two of them backed out and wanted to find two more guys.

>> No.48057682

>>48043476
They will just not debut EN3. They aren't so desperate as to scrape the bottom of the barrel like with Tempus.

>> No.48057885

>>48051671
I do, but Fauna has already said she wants kouhais. It's not the girls who oppose EN3.

>> No.48058005

>>48057305
>So they're too nervous for a new HoloEN gen but not nervous enough to not push for 8 faggots who are now doing barely any better than the failed StarsJP
Because the girls of Hololive are the stars of the show, the jewel of the crown, in a manner of speaking. The Holostars is a side project, they don't even fall in the same branch of the company. That is the part that knucklehead like you don't seem to understand. The existence of Stars don't divert resources from Hololive, the slow growth and decline of HoloEn the other hand it actually influence the course of HoloEn. ; )

>> No.48058074

>>48057682
Good thing about the bottom of the barrel is. It's a chance for fame.

>> No.48058086

>>48057446
Yes, I will be entertained for free, thank you.

>> No.48058285

>>48031339
I don't know anon
Would you rather have a gen fill with shitty people or the status quo?

>> No.48058518

>>48057500
Then that is a retarded decision when the member who will reach a million the fastest (taking into account both current subs and sub growth) is Mumei and it will still take her around 9 months. If they only start looking for more girls in 2024 why lie to everyone and keep the open auditions available for HoloEN?

>>48057533
The only announcement related to HoloEN auditions was 13 months after the open auditions started. Cover never touched the subject during this entire time while shilling for StarsEN 3 times, one happening mere days before the debut of the first gen and the other around 2-3 weeks before the second. ID had an auditions period so an ID4 WILL happen later this year, but we know fuck all about EN3 since Cover could've started looking into the new hires before the announcement back in February or that was when they first started paying attention to the forms not directed to StarsEN, so who the fuck knows how long it'll take for them to finally debut a new HoloEN gen.

>>48058005
>The existence of Stars don't divert resources from Hololive
That was only true for StarsJP. This argument completely ignores how Tempus was the first and only Holostars group to not debut close to a new Hololive gen. The first JP gen debuted 10 days before Sankisei, the second on the same month as JP4, the third a few weeks after ID1 and Uproar a few days after ID3. Both Tempus' debuts were completely isolated and the first gen was the only debut for the EN side in 2022, not to mention they both got a gen orisong faster than ANY HoloPro group before, the first gen had official watchalongs on the HoloEN youtube channel and they had their collab ban period prematurely ended without any good justification outside of allowing them to colllab with HoloEN and ID, while StarsJP was left completely in the dark about it. Yeah, I'm sure they're not diverting resources.

>> No.48059201

>>48058518
Maybe it's better not to expect a new gen for EN and enjoy what you have. If any of you really want EN3. Then get Kronii to 1M subs. Hell. Not even Kronii. Anybody in Council because Gura set a really high bar three years ago.

>> No.48059360

>>48029118
they already did myth as a theme. en3 might be a legend, though

>> No.48059545

>>48039301
>ME ME ME
You sound like those redditfags
You aren't the only fan of Holo fanbase
A new gen is useful to attract new fans and rekindle the enthusiasm of old fans who are bored/fed up with the existing gens
New blood is also useful to make the old blood work harder if they don't get corrupted by the old blood
And it might surprise you, but oshiless people just watch whatever that seems interesting

>> No.48059879

>>48059545
>A new gen is useful to attract new fans and rekindle the enthusiasm of old fans who are bored/fed up with the existing gens
If you are bored/fed up with a hobby sounds more like a You problem.

>> No.48059883

>>48056838
If you don't pay, your opinion doesn't matter.

>> No.48060339

>>48057305
>And why are you so certain that an EN3 would underperform like that?
Because is no longer 2020 and lockdowns are over. at least half of people subbed to Myth did it because they were bored during the lockdowns. hence the numbers of council being flat as a loli

>> No.48060359

>>48059545
You just made some real good points against having a third gen. I am convinced now Anon.

>> No.48060687

>>48059201
Oh yeah, lets bot any of the Council members because that's what will give us an EN3.

>>48059545
Not to mention how the old blood already talked about wanting kouhai, and a new gen is always a net gain for everyone involved. Both Holox and ID3 integrated very well with their respective branches (as much as some people have a hate boner for the former) and were responsible for interactions that didn't really happen before with the other members. Same exact thing will happen with an EN3 and they won't have the whole male bullshit to deal with.

>>48060339
And I ask you again, since the lockdowns buff are over why the fuck Cover invested in 8 guys in less than 6 months when the return they gave is much lower than a theoretical EN3? You have negative proof that 5 girls would do just as bad or worse as the 8 homos outside of "muh Luxiem did well, Cover needed a new market".

>> No.48060778

>>48053732
>This notion that HoloEN fans are leaving because there is no EN3
I do not know where they are going, but not everyone has the "I must consume only Hololive" mindset
It's weird that you think people must be restricted a certain brand

>> No.48060916

Why do people want EN3? I already have my oshi

>> No.48061333

>>48060916
Thanks god your kind of faggotry didn't exist back when Hololive was only the JP branch. Imagine if they stopped on JP2?

>> No.48061482

>>48060687
>You have negative proof that 5 girls would do just as bad or worse
Anons are basing performance on the current 10 girls.
They barely stream. Do you think 5 new girls that see that their senpais are doing fuck all, are going to think to themselves "Wow, they're lazy fucks, I can do better"
No, women do as women see and will think "Wow, look at all the money they get by doing nothing, I can do this too!"
Want proof? Look at Council.

>> No.48061586

>>48060687
>Same exact thing will happen with an EN3 and they won't have the whole male bullshit to deal with.
Considering the attitude that Council adopt of doing the bare minimum, I beg to differ.
>And I ask you again, since the lockdowns buff are over why the fuck Cover invested in 8 guys in less than 6 months
Because after the people screaching for the Tempus girls interactions, they decided to add other guys so they don't need to go out of their branch.
And again, different branches, different targets and objetives.
Just because it also have a blue dorito doesn't is something you need to watch or care.

>> No.48062234

>>48061586
They didn't decide to add more guys because people screeched, that's a massive revisionism on your part. They had 6 dudes before Tempus 1 and decided to hold off 2 of them so they would debut 2 gens of 4. The whole controversy about male collabs had no influence in their decision since that was pretty set in stone before the first gen even debuted. Also the entire "different targets" bullshit does not apply to Tempus when they were the sole EN debut in 2022. If that was actually true we would have an EN3 by now, but here we are 20 months since Council's debut and a new HoloEN gen is nowhere to be seen.

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>>48059360
En3: Hololive Fable

>> No.48063212

48062234
At this point I think you are simple a simpleton that can't fathom that a company could have two differents products that are not necessarily at odds.

>> No.48063520

>>48063212
And this was true before StarsEN, as seen how they always debuted new StarsJP gens close to other Hololive gens. Why this time was different? Why Tempus debuted with no accompanying HoloEN gen? If their target audience was so different from Hololive's then it wouldn't be a problem to debut an EN3 close to them, right?

>> No.48063728

>>48027725
There's not talented enough EN girls out there anymore, no need for more gens. I've seen every chuuba name thrown around but none of them fit the hololive feel so stop begging for more

>> No.48063742

Is CCV the biggest cope?
What a worthless fucking metric.

>> No.48063832

>>48063728
Lazy, entitled women doing the bare minimum after getting a whiff of success are a dime a dozen.
Surely Hololive can find 5 of them.

>> No.48063986

Holy, you are not only a simpleton but a total brain melted schizo.

>> No.48064252

>>48063019
yes please

>> No.48064253

>>48063986
And you don't have any good explanations left for why there's no EN3 yet. Also don't be scared to give me (You)s, I won't bite.

>> No.48064994

just trust me lmao

>> No.48066019

>>48064253
You still haven't answered the whole laziness thing that's prevalent in the EN girls.
>>48061482
>just find hard working girls
Its almost a guarantee that they've tried to and failed. That or EN just sucks motivation out of the girls.

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This is enough for you and your worms for brains.

>> No.48066830

>>48066019
>Its almost a guarantee that they've tried to and failed
sure i'll buy that they don't want another case like sana but come on; for 20 months, among countless amounts of indies that would kill for a spot to get in, how high was the bar to clear that they can't find 5 girls that are up to standard? unless they're just denying anyone that doesn't want to be associated with the boys because of management's retarded saviorfag complex

>> No.48068132

>>48066019
>You still haven't answered the whole laziness thing that's prevalent in the EN girls.
If Cover is sick of their laziness they would have done something about it, and if they really don't want to debut more girls because they fear they would end up exactly like the first 10 then why even have open auditions to begin with? Stop lying to the fans and their current members that they're interested in debuting more members and get done with it since they're happy hiring a bunch of unfunny faggots who stream the exact same games everyone else does and not any better, but at least they got a handful of whales who are single-handedly making them not a complete waste of investment even if they'll never beat Luxiem at it's prime. Hell, it took Luxiem to start losing popularity for Tempus to "compete" with them, which is fucking hilarious.
>Its almost a guarantee that they've tried to and failed. That or EN just sucks motivation out of the girls.
And it's almost a guarantee that Cover didn't try hard enough if that's remotely true.If they were having trouble getting 5 girls they could've done what they did for the homos 3 fucking times in less than a year. Maybe, just maybe that would've helped them if it was so fucking hard to find 5 decent enough girls from pretty much the entire world minus Japan and Indonesia.

Honestly you should just say you hate HoloEN and want the branch disbanded considering how hard you want Cover to never even think about debuting an EN3. There's no reason for someone to be so adamant about this if they don't hate the current members.

>> No.48068452

>>48039301
> t. threadreader

>> No.48069385

>>48068132
That's the thing, I don't hate HoloEN, I also find it retarded that they're taking so long, but I'm keeping an open mind about it in regard to *why* it takes so long.
Sure, we can doompost all day about how they aren't doing anything, but I highly doubt they aren't.
>>48066830
>how high was the bar to clear that they can't find 5 girls that are up to standard?
Look at every debut in the west recently, besides Rin from idol because I think she's ok enough for EN3, and tell me "Yep, these definitely look good for Hololive, they won't bring the brand down."

>> No.48070602

>>48069385
>we can doompost all day about how they aren't doing anything, but I highly doubt they aren't.
The nature of open auditions makes it impossible to predict when they'll drop a new gen, and the fact that it's been already more than 20 months since Council and almost 16 since the auditions started indicates that either Cover is insanely incompetent or they decided to put HoloEN in the back burner during 2022, tho that also makes them insanely incompetent.
>Look at every debut in the west recently, besides Rin from idol because I think she's ok enough for EN3, and tell me "Yep, these definitely look good for Hololive, they won't bring the brand down."
I fucking doubt you would look at any of the Myth girls minus probably Gura before debut and say the same thing. A failed gaijin idol, a "rapper", some random girl they found on Twitch and an artist who has contracted work for a few gachas and is probably too busy to stream. Tell me if you'd see this line-up before September of 2020 and honestly think "Yeah, they're perfect for HoloEN".

>> No.48070622

>>48027725
Never give up

>> No.48070806

>>48070602
Unironically only the artist sounds like a bad pick if we applied today's standards to back then.
Twitch is just another platform that benefits indies more than YT does.
"rapper", well..on paper its ok, in reality, Mori isn't, but we're too far in for that.
Fuck, even the JP homo can rap better than Mori.
failed gaijin idol, can she stream? yeah looks like she can, ok sure, she's done her idol reps so she probably knows what that's all about.
Artist that's too busy..well, yeah that one you're right.
Note that I'm being VERY generous about the above lineup, if I were to be stricter then I'd let the twitch streamer in only because she has streaming reps.

>> No.48070914

>>48027725
Why should anyone outside Cover Corp. and their stockholders care if/when they announce EN3?

>> No.48070938

>>48070806
If you're being generous here why you're so concerned with people that "won't bring the brand down"? A lot of the girls who streamed under smaller agencies aren't much different from the Myth or Council, so what's up with these extremely strict standards for EN3?

>> No.48071024

>>48070938
Generous for the sake of answering your question.
See the strict one for actual thoughts on the matter of "what Myth I'd actually let in", the answer is the twitch girl due to past streaming reps.
>girls who streamed under smaller agencies aren't much different
If we're comparing the ok ones to fauna / mumei and the bad ones to mori and kronii, yeah, you're right, they aren't much different.
But again, look at Eien and think "is this avtuber gonna do well in holo?"

>> No.48071144

>>48071024
Why are you bringing the most exaggerated counter example for your argument? Would a hot tub streamer work on Hololive? Would some political grifter do well as a Holomem? Why even bring up these types when it's obvious that pretty much nobody is talking about them?

>> No.48071411

>>48052631
If you don't have a reason to watch EN now, you probably won't get one even with EN3.

>> No.48071517

>>48071144
Because I said a few replies back
>every debut in the west recently
Eien is recent, so is the idol wave where I excluded Rin because I think she's a good fit. Who else had their debut?
>Why are you talking about recent debuts?
Because they either applied for holo, got ghosted and went elsewhere, or ignored Holo altogether. Idk how many are willing to ignore a golden ticket like holo.

>> No.48072160

>>48050593
true and real

>> No.48072913

>>48071517
My question was not why you're talking about recent debuts, but why are you bringing up the most extreme examples for your argument that almost all recent EN debuts are trash. Again, people would have the exact same reaction if they knew who the Myth girls were weeks before their debut independent if they're consistent streamers or not. This perfect EN3 member doesn't exist and the longer Cover takes to debut an EN3 the harder they'll be forced to settle with unproven talent that may or may work out. Also the "golden ticket" doesn't look that interesting to quite a few people anymore considering the amount of bureaucracy that comes with it, and that's something that could've been overlooked in the past when there were only a handful of agencies in the west and growing as an indie was way harder, but now it's much harder to see the people who are well set to abandon everything for Hololive unless they have nothing to lose or are specifically doing it for the musical angle the agency can provide.

>> No.48074610

>>48072160
>namefagging

>> No.48075777

There will not be a HoloEN3 or a StarsEN3. There will be a HoloID4.

>> No.48076064

>>48075777
>There will be a HoloID4.
SAVIOURS

>> No.48076884

Let's look at this from the other perspective. If you were an indie, why would you join EN3?

>> No.48077098

>>48076884
less streams, ez money

>> No.48078685

>>48027725
HoloEN Connect still remains the most logical choice. Gets some people to watch their senpai. Anything after that goes into overlapping anniversary/birthday territory and I can't see Cover doing anything to take the "shine" off Tempus 1st.

>> No.48079993

>>48078685
This. The next 2 months are the best time to debut an EN3. Anytime later enters the overlap hell and I really hope Cover isn't willing to let the wait go over 2 whole years.

>> No.48080147

>>48046857
>>48033032
Some real newfags here. This place has gone to the dogs.

>> No.48080191
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Here's your EN3

>> No.48081051

>>48080191
Mori, Watson, Suisei and Marine?

>> No.48081376

>>48080191
Doing a band gen with girls who can actually play their instruments would be the smartest decision Cover would ever do, but I doubt they would even pay attention to someone who plays anything but the guitar.

>> No.48082005

>>48076884
for 2views and 3views its a pretty good deal

>> No.48082079

>>48027725
The fact that the schizos have only a imaginary gen they invented in their heads to shitpost about HoloEN tells me they've won

>> No.48082476

>>48027725
Imagine the sheer quantity of human refuse they have to wade through to find entertaining talent with minimal psychological damage from the west.
Don't hold your breath, brehs.

>> No.48082578

>>48082476
And we still got Tempus. What's the next cope?

>> No.48082769

>tempshit 3 with the "leaked" Regulus/crown oshi mark vsinger announced right before HoloENConnect
will you clap?
will the hugbox leddit implode again?

>> No.48082854

>>48068452
Sometimes I forget I am talking to literal kids on this board

>> No.48082881

>>48082769
"Right before Connect the World" is dangerously close to Gura's birthday, so depending on when they announce it the aftermath will be worse than how it was with Tempus 2.

>> No.48083089

>>48082854
> replies 8 hours later
felt called out eh?

>> No.48083601

>>48059879
>If you are bored/fed up with a hobby sounds more like a You problem.
Wouldn't fans leaving holoEN be a problem for Cover? Their supposed to be an entertainment company and the JP branch had 28 members at this point with a single time zone.

>> No.48083640

>>48083089
No

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>>48083640

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