/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>48008617
It's not a traditional corpo. It's a talent management agency.

>>48008617
>Absolutely 0 graduations or terminations
That's the lowest bar possible.

>"vtuber" agency
>flesh streams
fuck off. vshojo discussion should be banished to /trash/.

vshojo is actually bad because japanese venture capitalists and cryptobro groomers suspending and firing my favorite vtubers for the pettiest reasons imaginable somehow improves the viewing experience

>>48008617
>3 years
3.5%

Most graduations or terminations tend to come down to standards. The chuuba wasn't performing well enough, or breaking contract, or just generally being schizo. Sometimes it is the company at fault, yeah, but that usually results in the entire place going belly up, not just a few isolated people leaving or being forced out.

Point being, the lower standards a corp has, the less graduations you can expect to see.

>>48008617
Veibae basically works for her fuccboi's agency now and has publicly stated that they do more for her than Vshojo ever did.
She's Vshojo in name only these days.

>>48009203
so true sister, we gotta fire all the schizo pickmes who make raid shadow legends jokes or say taiwan
it's called having standards and being a decent person *nails emoji*

>>48008617
How do you kick out someone when you have no standards or expectations? "Talent freedom" applied to the real world would mean a McDonald's employee could just decide to not show up to work or start spitting in all the food and never get fired. That reflects just as badly on McDonald's as that employee IMO, same for Vshojo. This is the part where they claim they're not a corpo, talent freedom etc - it's just to avoid any notion of responsibility. They're a big powerful group when convenient to them, and a small humble non-corpo loose group of friends when that's more convenient at that time.

>>48009314
"Talent freedom" is a joke anon. Their "freedom" only applies if they don't offend the twitter woke crowd.

>>48008617
Hard to fall any further once you've already hit rock bottom. What are they going to do, graduate and join Vshojo again?

>>48008617
>Corpo
It's a label with 0 obligations, no one has any reason to "graduate" from it

>>48009203
Yea I love when contracts I can't read are put ahead of my enjoyment as a viewer. I don't want to watch fun streams I am just here to make the company make money. Please fire my oshi yagoo-sama.

>>48009577
stop watching corpo vtubers then

>>48008982
still mogs 90% of holoen in average ccv

>>48010182
this month Ironlung is below Ina, Gura, Fauna, Kronii and Mumei. also Pekora this month is mogging all Vshojo conbined

>>48010647
>muh graph

>>48010647
romao ironmouse can get 8- without resortin to minecraft like holoen shitters.
holoen in top 10 when?

>>48009274
Vei is graduating within the week.

>>48010647
Without minecraft fauna, mumei and kronii can't even hit 7k
ROMAO

>>48008617
Because they're too scared to fired Froot or Veibae.

>>48008982
>Getting beat by Virtual E-sports project

>>48010182
>Holoen group avarage 7-8k every month #2 in all of vtube
>Holojp monthly group avarage 12k the highest in all of vtubing
No they don't
.t numberfag

>>48010736
>365 hours stremed
>Twitch magic numbers

>>48008691
Vtuber Logistic Service Provider

>>48011379
>>48011422
>the numberfag cries out in pain when challenged on his team's noombers
nice zgraphs fag

>>48011462
>Can't get away with making up shit and Literally goes "s-so what?!?!"

oh yeah the noooombers

>>48011525
Everyone can see the 3-4k streams in holodex you fucking idiot, get out of here with your 7k shit.

>>48011379
pfft ironmouse continues to beat 90% of holoen and hits 9k peak every stream. without minecraft holoen can't pass 8k on normal stream romao

>>48011585
Yeah true they have reclined hard except gura there cealing isn't that high, but all of the en except gura falls under low tier holo catagory, go good job on beating the lowest tiers of holo i guess.

>>48011680
You mean "good job being the top English speaking vtuber group". Your concession has been accepted.

>>48011730
Nah if you want to give it a group award then you need to look at the whole group, ironmouse is only one with high CCV rest not so much holoen dispite it's low delevary is still ahed of them.

>NOOMBERfag is esl
big shock

>>48011902
Ironmouse is the #2 en vtuber out there though after gura

>>48011902
Tbf most of holoen have fallen to vshojo tier ccv(mainly ame, mori, kiara, bae and hoever else)

>>48011902
Veibae has bigger noombers than Ironmouse. For a numberfag you don't really seem to know a lot about numbers. Next time instead of calling yourself a numberfag, just say "fag here".

>>48011730
>the top English speaking vtuber group
The bar is literally on the ground. EN vtubing is dying rapidly and has no future. This is like being the top dog in the special olympics.

>>48012025
>everyone stopped watching holoen because they're boring and don't stream so the entire industry is dying
get out of your bubble

>>48011902
Nyanners can still get 7k with no overlap

>>48012102
But it applies to NijiEN and VShojo as well, along with most indies. Have you seen Nyanners' numbers lately? She's down about 50%. EN vtubing was a fad that passed by and is going away.

>>48008617
Hard to graduate someone when the company has zero power over anyone due to how useless it is. All the relevant Vshojo girls are signed under other agencies who actually provide them shit.

>>48012159
She got 7k playing elder scrolls the other day

>>48012204
She also got 15k playing The Mortuary Assistant in February, and about 4k playing VRchat three days ago. On average she's down by about 50%, like I said.

Dont worry there will be at least 6 graduations coming up:
>Ironmouse spontaneously combusts after coming into contact with conner's spooge.
>Melody's hiv infection contracted from her sex work becomes full blown aids.
>Zentraya inevitably joins the 41%.
>Froot finally cheats on the wrong person & succumbs to a dva incident.
>Veibae is convicted for the 10 terabytes of cp found on her hard drive.
>Hime has her face torn off by a monkey while visiting her husbands family in Thailand.

>>48008617
Half of them don't even stream though, so they might as well be graduated.

>>48012398
Vshojo is already on the verge of imploding. Connor has slept with like half the members and Ironmouse is not happy about it.

>>48012159
You're conflating a bunch of different issues. NijiEN is lower because chinawomen moved on to a different fad. Nyanners is lower because she massively debuffed herself by disappearing for a long ass time and never regained her consistency. Twitch numbers are also down overall due to the pandemic ending plus aggressive preroll ads discouraging tourists and stream hopping which affects both everyone in Vshojo as well as indies.

Ironmouse has basically the same average viewers she had last year (not counting the subathon) which is essentially an incline all things considered. Vei would also be inclining if she actually streamed but she's rich now.

>>48012398
Zen isn’t trans, she’s a couple sharing the same model

>>48008617
Theyre not a vtuber corpo, so they wont have graduations nor waves. Right?

>>48008735
Yet every other company has failed to achieve this.

>>48013606
Yes, a vshojo graduation would be that streamer just carrying on normally but without the branding and not showing up in their events anymore

>>48012677
veibae literally has 6.7 ccv for the month. that's an awful decline

>>48013993
And yet she was nominated in the streamer awards.

>>48012016
>Veibae has bigger noombers than Ironmouse
in what world

>>48013993
>numberfag
>not using peaks
>>48013993
The world where you look at twitchtracker for 30 seconds

>>48008617
I dont know, Nazuna seems to be about to check out since realizing Kson sold her a lie.

>>48014672
That was bait anon

>>48014672
That entire translation was a lie

>>48008617
Vshojo not a corp
t. Kekson

>>48009363
But Silver called the twitter crowd terminally online freaks then completed it
>>48010892
Why would they "fired" either of them? They've had no reason to.
>>48014672
I watched her stream for 5 hours earlier today, she was having a really good time. Plus she had a great collab with her friend kson last week.
Don't believe everything you read in /vt/. It's mostly bullshit made up to see who's retarded enough to believe it.

>>48010647
>>48010736
>Bringing up HoloJP when the comparison is against HoloEN

>>48014991
vchad you can't just bring up logic in bait threads like this!!

>>48015060
they have to since EN never make the charts kek

>>48010647
Sad that they cant get over 7k without minecraft. only gura and ina are above ironmouse

>>48015060
The numberpeople need everyone to know that a lot of japanese people watch the bunny that they can't understand

>>48010647
>this month
>chart is last week only
>chart is YouTube only, VShojo streams on Twitch
How can you be this retarded?

>>48015060
yes holoEN is a failed experiment
not a real branch

>>48015936
Only a black company like Cover could screw up that badly.

>>48010736
m8? Ironmouse just watches shit on her stream half of the time. That's worse than "resorting to minecraft".
React andys are way too common on twitch in general. It's a horrible form of content, even though it is very successful.

Vshojo has the first en ever en vtuber ironmouse who even predates hololive as a whole

>>48008617
They don't have as many talents, which may be a decent strategy even though it means much slower growth.

>>48016172
>14hours of grabgame last week
>re remAke playthrough
>pixelmon
>genshin sponsor
>her talk show(speak of the devil)

>>48012398

>>48016240
That shit's as bad as minecraft, what the hell are you even shitting on MC for if you like boring content like that?

>>48008617
If Silvervale wasn't pozzed and had some integrity she would've quit in Feb. I've never seen a corp turn their backs on one of their own so quickly.

>>48019206
They are more like one of those California streaming houses than an actual corpo. In house drama isn't that unusual.

>>48019206
>I've never seen a corp turn their backs on one of their own so quickly
Other corpos do it all the time anon. They suspend them. They fire them. They squeeze them for every cent they've got then delete them from existence. You only need to have spent a day here to know this much.

THE NOOMBERS

>>48019206
What happened, did she get suspended for literally no reason?

>>48008617
>"corpo"
>7 members in 3 years

>>48019733
she finished playing the wizard game
then turdworlders on here wrote a 20 page fanfiction about how it was actually le evil froote and pink cat who orchestrated all the harassment she got from the *****s

>>48019733
No. What happened was vshojo didn't make a public statement. That was it.
>>48019863
11

>>48019733
Nah, her playing the wizard game was treated as if she did something wrong by one or more of the people in her agency. I only know Froot was like "we all make mistakes sometimes"

>>48020214
turdworlder fanfiction

>>48008617
there is nowhere to go after this

>>48008617
Congrats. Still not watching.

>>48008617
>>48013693

>Absolutely 0 graduations or terminations

It's like they have much, much fewer members or something. It's like they don't care about what their members do as long as they can bring in money whereas the others care about the consequences of people's actions.

>>48023266
What? VShojo has the same number of people as Idol which has had 3 graduations, only 4 less than Phase who now has their first termination, and the same number as HoloEN who also has 1 graduation. The only notable group this works on is NijiEN since they've got like 3x as many members right now

>>48020214
>all I know is I got baited with an out of context screenshot

>>48015740
>all Vshojo last 30 days (25 Mar-23 Apr):.2.54M hours watched
>Pekora last 23 days (1-23 Apr): 2.77M hours watched
are you happy now Vshojocuck?

>>48024496
The popular holoEN streamer Pekora, yes.

>>48024496
Now do it with Bilibili vtubers.

>>48024496
where's the chart for kick streams

>>48008617
Shut the fuck up

>>48009577
If your oshi is in vshojo you and she are already a lost cause
Anyone interested in twitch women who unironically stream with their bfs is mental

>>48012398
W-what happens to Silver?

>>48025388
becomes a vixxen actress

>>48008617
You do realize that you are going to be grudgeposted even harder than phasefags are when you do get that nazuna termination right? PC shills can no longer post any of their vtubers in any thread without getting instantly attacked and being told to fuck off
You will wish you stayed on >>>/trash/

>>48025469
Is it really this easy to falseflag? Maybe I'll start doing it.

>>48025264
Anyone interested in vtubers for anything more than entertainment is mental

>>48013693
You say this as if it's a good thing?
It's proof they have zero standards and zero expectations. Forgettable mediocrity at it's most irrelevant.

>>48025469
Only one company's fired her so far, dumbass. Your fanfic is worthless.

>>48025670
twitter.com/nemuisanw

>>48025636
>Being a black company that's ready wipe your oshi from existence in a heartbeat is something to be proud of
You do you bro, good luck

>>48025636
My sides

>>48025739
Fandeads? What is this?

>>48025739
>>48025944
I ain't following your twitter

>>48025944
Rushias 4th twitter account. That one specifically is about her bragging how many lawsuits she does.

>>48008617
They're not like traditional agencies

>>48008617
>no standards
>no graduations/terminations
what a surprise

>>48008617
sweet

>>48014991
froot endorsed the harassment of pikamee and silvervale over wizard game, promised to donate money to charity and two months later still no receipt of this

>>48026044
I had a look at it and about 80% of the Tweets are just thanking fans for making streaming enjoyable for her.

>>48036955
sounds pretty based ngl

>>48012398
All of these are plausible, and I believe they'll happen.

>>48008617
agreed

>>48036955
>endorsed

>>48014991
>But Silver called the twitter crowd terminally online freaks then completed it
She's not wrong tho

>>48009274
>publicly stated that they do more for her than Vshojo ever did.
Got a clip/screenshot of that

>>48041624
Dunno why you're bothering. The lies just get more expanded because the goal is to cause harm.

>>48012398
>ironmouse
shes lying about it bro, the character ironmouse has the disease and not the person piloting ironmouse

>>48010768
She barely streams she might as well have graduated
>streams 2 times the entire year
>somehow wins the rigged awards

>0 graduations
The difference is that that it's a retirement home for the disgraceful like russhia.

>>48025388

>>48025547
>british faggot
Why do your people insist on ruining everything you touch?

>>48045545
My guy, you can see her gross chest chemical injector implant in her doxx pics and hear her oxygen tanks in like 1/3rd of her streams.

Hating her is a fine take, but don't do so for a clown reason.

>>48046165
learn to check what people are replying to you retard
also take meds
she'll never know you, she'll never touch you, she lives with her bf/fiance

>>48010647
>>48010736
Get fucked

>>48046633
Welcome to 4chan now fuck off back to twitch.

>>48046480
>thinks there are accurate doxxpics of Mouse
You do you, bruh.

>>48016342
>proven wrong
>IT STILL SUCKS!
lol fag kys

>>48019960
This one honestly strikes me as weird. Silver was getting doxxed and death threats. Even non-Vtuber fans I know were talking about Silver's meltdown. You'd think Vshojo would do the absolute minimum to try and control the situation with some mealy-mouthed PR tweet, and they didn't even do that.

Silver is proof positive that VShojo has some shit going on. Nyanners and Ironmouse are the golden girls, they get whatever they want. Vei has always been contemptful of being a vtuber, she's fine and dandy being Sodapoppin's plus-one. Zen has her own niche and she's just fine in it. Hime doesn't do shit. Kson and Nazuna are off in their own little world. Melody does adult stuff so there's not much they can do to push her. And Froot has ISP issues five days out of the week because lolUK. Silver puts out a new song almost every two months, actually performed alongside Nyanners and Mouse at VILLS, and VShojo still doesn't really do shit for her.

>>48047266
>CHADZUHA above the retarded peko
Good, get fucked rabbitfags

>>48047470
Vshojo rarely adresses drama, if ever. The one time they did it was with Nux. Nyanners actually liked a tweet about how stupid it is to talk about drama a few months ago which basically sums up the whole thing. It's not that they don't do anything, it's that they're not public about it unless they're forced to be.

>>48047470
Everyone on the inside keeps saying they're not that type of vtuber company, when will people start believing them? It's tech support and backpacks with occasional merch drops.
What is it you think they do for nyanners and ironmouse that they don't do for others?

Kek. It's too obvious the working culture on the western company is miles better than jp side. At the very basic, their manager atleast know what to do.

>>48047935
>western company is miles better than jp side

>>48047719
There's a difference between "addressing drama" and "one of our talents is getting death threats and harrassment, maybe we should step in and try to calm people down". Let me flip >>48047769's question around: if they're "just" tech support and they're not gonna help any of the talent get stuff like promotional collabs, merch opportunities like with Good Smile or video game collabs, then why are the girls with them in the first place? Because so far, the only girls in VShojo to get Nendroids are Iron Mouse and Nyanners.

>>48048280
>one of our talents is getting death threats and harrassment
That's been every week of vshojos history. For some before they even joined.
Also kson and nazuna got nendos too while vei got a popup parade.

>>48048280

>>48048280
>There's a difference between "addressing drama" and "one of our talents is getting death threats and harrassment
That would also require Vshojo to defend Froot since she's been getting plenty of harassment from the /vt/ards

>>48049210
Their stance has always been if someone asks for help then they'll do what they can. Otherwise the talent has complete autonomy over what they do. They stepped in to help Froot when a footfag was trying to turn her past into content, and they remove uploads of very old stuff Ironmouse doesn't want posted. Anything else is either something the talent is unaware of, or that they're okay with being out there. Possibly begrudgingly, because taking stuff down should generally only be a last resort or for very sensitive information.

>>48049210
>>48048280

exactly this, antis love bringing up sliver's harassment as some sort of anomaly when all the girls have had the same treatment at least once, even nyanners when she announced her yakuza cameo got death threats and people literally editing a fake video to try to get her cancelled and pulled from the game, the only reason they never mention it is because they are part of the hate mobs, silver is different bc le trans bad

>>48048280
mouse and nyanners got a nendroid
nyanners and vei have a figure coming soon tm
kson and nazuna got a nendroind
zentreya figure just announced
every member got at least 1 plushie
every member has a pc case

>>48008982
>Pekora and Kuzuha have to have their own little chunks because that's how many eyeballs they pull
Hypothetically, what happens if these two were to disappear suddenly?

>>48025388
A long and productive life as my /preg/ fetish cocksleeve.

>>48036955
>promised to donate money to charity
Let it go. Froot's scum but if you were to somehow expose her enough over this the end result would be a pack of literal tranny pedophiles getting a $50k check.

>>48045106
>>48015138
>>48041624
subhuman trash
you will kill yourself that rate rises each year

>>48049210
froot is subhuman deserves worse you are the only retarded

>>48049697
Every member's also gotten at least one dedicated merch drop to date. Mouse has gotten one for basically every model debut which has gotta be a huge revenue source all its own.

>>48050302
>you are the only retarded
esltard... you're just embarrassing yourself now