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EN3 IS REAL!
>>47953919Filian inclining. Kobo reclining.
A toast to Pekora, queen of /#/ generator of infinite amounts of nijiseethe from everything that she does.
Where's the Pekora X KING collab? That's the only one which would actually bring in new viewers to hololive since King's viewers are isolationist.
How do we objectively measure Pekora's attempt to increase her audience by collabing with NijiJP females a success or not?
>>47953979All she has to do is exist.
* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY *>51,761: Miko (Hololive)>40,169: Koyori (Hololive)>33,258: Pekora (Hololive)>28,158: Naraka (Nijisanji)>28,128: Ina (Hololive)>26,997: Nui (Nijisanji)>26,390: Polka (Hololive)>21,276: Subaru (Hololive)>19,459: Mio (Hololive)>18,975: Fuwa (Nijisanji)>18,039: Ayame (Hololive)>17,159: Yashiro (Nijisanji)>16,337: Chiroru (Indie)>16,198: Watame (Hololive)>15,348: Towa (Hololive)>14,970: Fubuki (Hololive)>14,145: Kiara (Hololive)>13,644: Nui (Nijisanji)>13,589: Lauren (Nijisanji)>13,404: Lamy (Hololive)>12,927: Reid (Neo-Porte)>12,630: Salome (Nijisanji)>12,208: Kanata (Hololive)>12,027: Iroha (Hololive)>11,850: Met (VSPO)>11,383: Kronii (Hololive)>11,130: Reid (Neo-Porte)>11,050: Noel (Hololive)>10,949: Kanae (Nijisanji)>10,683: Fubuki (Hololive)>10,627: Laplus (Hololive)
>>47953979A toast to Migo! The true protagonist of Hololive!
>>47953919>>47953950I prefer this OP
What is Pekora endgame for this Holoniji collab bros?
>>47954017Her chat overlap stats didn't change since then. The girls she's collabing with are too small to have any effect. It will only work if it's King, unironically: >>47954007
>>47953979>>47954007fucking POTTERY
>>47954007Peko joining the rust server would be kino
>>47954017It look like a success to me,more 4 view livestream will looking forward to have her
>>47954074>APRIL 2023 GOLDS1) Toya (Nijisanji) - 56,531 - Genderbent stream2) Hal (Neo Porte) - 110,960 - VSaikyo 5 landmark lottery3) Pekora (Hololive) - 95,630 - Puyo Puyo Tetris 2 w/Suisei4) Chiroru (Indie) - 32,268 - Hanshin Tigers vs. Hiroshima watchalong5) Miko (Hololive) - 62,251 - Puyo Puyo Tetris 2 totsu6) Okayu (Hololive) - 70,189 - New outfit reveal7) Ponto (Nijisanji) - 66,820 - 3D debut8) Miko (Hololive) - 38,482 - Minecraft9) Ryushen (Nijisanji) - 78,299 - Smash Bros. Tournament10) Pekora (Hololive) - 97,308 - Puyo Puyo Tetris 2 tournament draw11) Iroha (Hololive) - 37,543 - Puyo Puyo Tetris 2 w/Suisei12) Salome (Nijisanji) - 39,193 - Uma Musume gacha13) Korone (Hololive) - 111,617 - 4th anniversary 3D live14) Hal (Neo Porte) - 62,240 - Apex VSaikyo 5 final scrims15) Hal (Neo Porte) - 165,037 - Apex VSaikyo 5 tournament16) Pekora (Hololive) - 244,788 - Puyo Puyo Tetris 2 tournament17) Miko (Hololive) - 55,500 - Puyo Puyo Tetris 2 w/Nene & Mel18) Fuwa (Nijisanji) - 122,091 - Host outfit 3D reveal19) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 40,447 - Rust20) Pekora (Hololive) - 64,780 - Granblue Fantasy collab21) Marine (Hololive) - 96,062 - Pro seiyuu auditions w/Miko, Polka & Koyori22) Kanata (Hololive) - 104,665 - 3D birthday variety show23) Miko (Hololive) - 51,761 - Soulcalibur 6>PER COMPANY13x: Hololive6x: Nijisanji3x: Neo Porte1x: Indie>PER STREAMER4x: Miko, Pekora3x: Hal1x: Chiroru, Fuwa, Iroha, Kanata, Korone, Kuzuha, Marine, Okayu, Ponto, Ryushen, Salome, Toya>2023 GOLDS>PER COMPANY84x: Hololive20x: Nijisanji4x: Indie, Neo Porte1x: VSPO>PER STREAMER31x: Pekora10x: Marine8x: Miko5x: Toya4x: Hal, Subaru3x: Hololive, Kuzuha, Mio, Okayu, Suisei2x: Chiroru, Koyori, Lamy, Nerumero, Nijisanji, Towa1x: Aqua, Ayame, Choco, Fuwa, Gaku, Gura, Himawari, Hinano, Ina, Iroha, Kanata, Kiara, Korone, Mito, Mori, Nozomi, Polka, Ponto, Roco, Ryushen, Salome, Shion, Watame, Yashiro
>>47954007Why would anyone wants his fps viewers? Aqua literally still has fps niggers disliking all her streams even years after she touched that damned game
Irys stinks
>>47954007Imagine Peko joining the rust server and surpassing the Holo season 2 Kino. YES PLS!
>>47954122How many times do you have to repeat this? The only ones who are there are the ones who have been in VSaikyou, you fucking retard
>>47954152Preach
>>47954168There's only like 6 days left I believe
peko almost
>>47954152Stinks of sex, I just finished with her. I'll send her to bathe now.
>>47954152>>47954190Shut up and go like more luxiem related tweets moomwhore
I got gifted a Nina membership and apparently the gamer wave is dropping pretty soon.
>>47954152>>47954190Not my loli WifeRys
>t. 47953740>Hololive grew because the casuals that were watching Nijisanji because of them having "something for everyone" were attracted to the Box-type specialized idol group type thing that the Holos were doing. In addition to this, Holo girls were far more entertaining than the nijis, which is what resulted in the audience moving over to Holos.>What has changed from back then? The niji girls are still 4views just doing streaming "as a job" just like they were 2 years ago.>They have not changed, they are still as stagnant as they were, and the collab obviously showed the great difference in streaming skills between them to both audiences.>Why would the trend ever reverse under such circumstances?>Audiences are not water that goes through every open sieve. People watch Holos for a reason, and that reason has not changed at all with the addition of niji girl collabs.
*FINAL EN TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN*>4/23 DAILY TALLY28,128: Ina (Hololive)14,145: Kiara (Hololive)11,383: Kronii (Hololive)7,672: Ren (Nijisanji)7,599: Vox (Nijisanji)6,735: Luca (Nijisanji)6,333: Amelia (Hololive)>EN GOLDS FOR APRIL 20231) Baelz (Hololive) - 10,729 - Unarchived Karaoke2) Mori (Hololive) - 19,768 - Outfit Reveal3) Baelz (Hololive) - 9,749 - Q Remastered4) Mori (Hololive) - 24,195 - Birthday Stream5) Kronii (Hololive) - 12,994 - Minecraft6) Sonny (Nijisanji) - 13,826 - Birthday Karaoke7) Kronii (Hololive) - 21,845 - Uno (w/ Mori, Magni, Vesper)8) Selen (Nijisanji) - 23,498 - PuyoPuyo Tetris 2 Tournament9) Mumei (Hololive) - 43,634 - Outfit Reveal10) Kiara (Hololive) - 15,972 - Easter Collab11) Fauna (Hololive) - 12,199 - Minecraft12) Kronii (Hololive) - 10,504 - Minecraft13) Mumei (Hololive) - 9,986 - CouncilRyS RPG14) Kronii (Hololive) - 11,753 - 2.0 Reveal15) Gura (Hololive) - 19,449 - Choo Choo Charles16) Baelz (Hololive) - 27,878 - Outfit Reveal17) Gura (Hololive) - 17,691 - Choo Choo Charles18) Gura (Hololive) - 16,667 - Baldi's Basics19) Kiara (Hololive) - 7,271 - Minecraft20) Ina (Hololive) - 18,401 - Karaoke/Announcement21) Fulgur (Nijisanji) - 12,392 - Touchstarved (w/ Vox, Ike, Sonny, Doppio)22) Mysta (Nijisanji) - 88,255 - Outfit Reveal23) Ina (Hololive) - 28,128 - Outfit Reveal>PER COMPANY19x: Hololive4x: Nijisanji>PER STREAMER4x: Kronii3x: Baelz, Gura2x: Mori, Mumei, Kiara, Ina1x: Sonny, Selen, Fauna, Fulgur, Mysta>POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)25p: Kronii22p: Fauna21p: Baelz20p: Mumei17p: Ina, Kiara15p: Mori, Gura12p: Luca8p: Sonny, Selen, Mysta6p: Vox5p: Fulgur3p: Kotoka1p: Axel, Amelia, Elira, IRyS, Ike
>>47954092> Showing niji girls the goodness of Hololive> Making them want that sort of lifestyleEither they try to make CGDCT groups among themselves, imitate Hololive and grow themselves (thereby spreading Holo culture into Niji and curing the rot from within) or they get shat on by other livers, and start a civil war resulting in multiple casualties.They could also draw some bravery from the holo girls and push management for more resources etc. which could also result in them getting slapped down --> Building more resentment.Either way, infiltration is a good first step.
>>47954249>2023 EN GOLDS>PER COMPANY80x: Hololive31x: Nijisanji2x: Holostars>PER STREAMER11x: Mori9x: Baelz, Gura8x: IRyS, Mumei, Ina7x: Amelia, Fauna, Kronii6x: Vox5x: Kiara4x: Mysta3x: Pomu, Shu, Selen1x: Ike, Flayon, Alban, Elira, Luxiem, Finana, Millie, Luca, Regis, Enna, Rosemi, Hololive English, Ren, Sonny, Fulgur>2023 POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)98p: Fauna78p: Mumei76p: Baelz, Ina72p: Mori66p: IRyS59p: Vox54p: Amelia48p: Mysta, Kiara47p: Kronii45p: Gura38p: Luca26p: Selen17p: Shu16p: Pomu11p: Uki, Axel, Sonny10p: Ike9p: Millie, Enna8p: Finana7p: Regis, Elira6p: Rosemi, Ren5p: Flayon, Alban, Luxiem, Hololive English4p: Vesper, Fulgur3p: Hakka, Magni, Kotoka1p: Meloco, Shinri, Gavis, Maria, Pippa, Nina
IT'S TIED!
>>47954401KFP AGENT
>>47953979A toast to these two /#/ gods. Wow, Fauna really is EN Pekora huh.
IT'S OVER!
>Pekora just wanting more people for her gbf guild war.>#tards :'Sasuga Peko sama the reborn Sun Tzu'
>Pekora hosts more Holo eventsGreat move, number shows>Cover allows Towa, Matsuri, and Lap to strike mackerelBad move, numbers are down for both Town and Lap. Although it's probably done so because they want to join so bad, and to avoid any more of lap's menhera>Pekora nijiholo groupNot sure, will have to see the numbers in a month or two to tell. The need to expand to new audience is a function of time, and they've been performing well at dominating the streams. Although the numbers haven't shown any positives on the holo side and debatable on the Niji side.I'd call it a success if any of the Holo ends up with at least 15%-20% viewership increase after the collab group ends to justify the risks and gains from the other party.
>>47954466>Fauna really is EN Pekora
>>47954466
>>47954283>or they get shat on by other liversI feel like instead of the livers themselves, its the nijikeks that will do this
>>47954236Go back to /nijien/ faggot. Maybe theyll start posting cocks for you again
>>47954074>51,761: Miko (Hololive)>40,169: Koyori (Hololive)>33,258: Pekora (Hololive)>28,158: Naraka (Hololive Tourists)>28,128: Ina (Hololive)>26,997: Nui (Hololive Tourists)>26,390: Polka (Hololive)>21,276: Subaru (Hololive)>19,459: Mio (Hololive)>18,039: Ayame (Hololive)THE GREAT MOGGENING HAS ONLY JUST BEGUN
>>47954522>Bad move, numbers are down for both Town and LapBut they're up for the homos, which as we all know is the main goal of current Cover
So wait, hana is getting a third chance for a 3d debut while her genmates are debuting? Isnt that kinda ironic because she waited for them so that they all could debut together?
>>47954283If NijiJP had a girls only tournament in some game of interest, I'd probably watch and see how it goes. If NijiEN had a girls only tournament, the males would show up anyway so I wouldn't give it a chance.
>>47954522Who cares about Towa, Matsuri, and La+ when the homos got a huge boost?
>>47954769meant for graduating*
>>47954647it will be condoned by the livers either way, so there won't be much of a difference between the two
https://www.youtube.com/live/X-YgOqvNp2M?feature=shareIs her boyfriend in VCR Rust?it freaking 4AM!
>>47954769Very ironic indeed.But if she actually gets 3D she might be one of the last NijiIDs to stay in the branch, which will be a poetic fucking end to the branch.
I refuse to believe saplings are this delusional. so, why is Fauna being used to shitpost now?
>>47954877>/live/kek, no embed no reaction
>>47954754Yeah i missed that, it was a good move from Cover then (neutral for hololive, positive for holostars). Not so much to folks who only cares about the girls though.
>>47954924It got 2 (You)s, so it obviously worked, and will keep happening
>>47954249
>>47954916I think her and Mika will be the last ones left. Outside of those to it feels like the rest are already gone.
>>47954991Will Ina ever be saved from her powerstance?
>>47954991cute boy
>>479549822 yous laughing at it and with no serious response
>>47954991wow I wouldn't be surprised if Ina RM actually wear that kinda getup
>>47954520>he fell for Peko's machiavellian war tacticssasuga Peko-sama future God Emperor of humanity
>>47954249>11,383: Kronii (Hololive)Another Flawless, Effortless, 10k stream added to increase Kronii's monthly peak average. You love to see it. She's Not EN's #2 without reason you know.
Story arc schizo ww@?
>>47954877Yes, if by her boyfriend you mean Astel
>>47954249>>47954991
>>47954466Have these 2 ever interacted? They look good together.
>>47954249THE SQUUUAD:20K+CGDCT:11kWhy is CGDCT such a debuff for EN
>>47955093Probably.
>>47954249>>47955174
>>47955115In fact, she's not EN's #2 at all.
>>47954249>>47955225
>>47954233What are you talking about? There is no Luxiem likes on Mumei’s twitter.
>>47955103Nah, Peko is Tzeentch and also the God Emperor, they are the same person. Think about it, his rise and fall are timed perfectly to keep the chaos war ongoing forever
>>47954247I don’t think Pekora collabing with some nijis lately has to mean anything /#/s-wise, mostly for the reasons you stated. The holobox is secure, and opening it for a bit so Pekora can collab outside the company isn’t going to do any harm.It seems more likely to me that it’s just to add more variety.>Oh, cool! Pekora’s doing a collab with Nui! That’s pretty new. Let me check it out.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQWcGi3saWQTodayhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2J0_dcHLwoTomorrow
>>47955093she literally said so herself
>>47954249>>47955284
>>47955125She saw clip of her boyfriend interact and decide to make sure no NTR happen
>>47955351so it's true, well it kinda make sense since the outfit have the "feels like at home chilling" thingy
>>47954924>nowsaplings are low effort shitposters since day 1
>>47954249>25p: Kronii>22p: FaunaGreen Vs Blue. Fight night. The greatest gladiator match in the history of the world: CGDCT protector versus Homo Collaber. day versus night. Mother of Nature versus The Warden of Time.
I wonder if you fag can make Pekora lifting a finger related to number and how it will change Hololive forever
>>47954249One for the footfags.
>>47955507engish
Faunahttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQWcGi3saWQ
>>47954249>>47955353
vesperonii chads. we be eating thanks to that animation
>>47955507Depends on which finger of which hand. Obviously the thumb, the index and the middle one have the most buffs, as does the right hand.
Where can pekora expand her audience to if not from NijiJP females?She already tried Fatefags and gachafags with respectable success, would she be able to go for (relatively) normalfags like Suisei or Marine is trying to do?
>Kiara kept on asking Korone's manager about Korone on Holotalk>always got rejected>Kiara decides to go around her manager and ask Korone directly>immediately acceptedManagers literally gatekeeping.
>>47955657Managers have always been pieces of shit, at this point I'm believing new hires are stealth antis because I can't believe such incompetence.
>>47955657Even JP management knows EN is a blight on Hololive and wants them segregated.
https://youtu.be/TYag7QlhdTw?t=112Dude how the fuck is this shit even fair?Hololive have some sort of occult comedian deity or some shit on their side, getting hilarious moments like these on almost every other stream.How can Nijisanji even compete!?
>>47955657>Korone's manager blockingBut why? Where's the logic in BLOCKING ONE OF THE MAJOR EOP GATEWAYS from GOING ON TO A AN EOP/JP GATEWAY SHOW?!
>>47955657I can see why, that HoloTalk wasn't that good, aside from knowing that Koone sleeps naked, and wears snoopy panties, Kiara asks for a Pekora imitation and she says that hers was better anyways
Do you think at any point in time Pekora had the idea of training Jill to swipe and click on tablet so it can help her farm gbf?
>>47955657>Managers literally gatekeepingexcept when it's homo collabing of course
>>47955326Agreed. If anything, the only ulterior motive/power move I can see behind this Niji collab was showing how she won't falter even after one of their livers openly displayed resentment towards her.
>>47955657I bet that nip manager is FURIOUS
>>47955657In this case it just sounds like Korone was a massive autist that could easily say no because she didn't have a direct line of communication to Kiara
>>47955657BASED JPCHAD MANAGER GATEKEEPING EN SHIT FROM JP.
>>47955071Implying that those two responsee aren't blatant samefags. Do you even know what thread you're in?
>>47955636Those midgets aren't going to expand anyone's audience. It needs to be a King collab. He can pretend to be Sanya to not upset the unicorns too.
>>47954520As if Pekora needs to be some master strategist. All she needs to do is worry about her own channel, help her coworkers a modest amount by just collabing and doing events (which is easy if you like each other, which HoloJP members generally do). It’s the equivalent of hanging out with your friends most of the time and then deciding to spend a weekend hanging out with a new person you met a few days ago and got along with The only ones who need to coordinate “grand strategies” is Cover management. And for that kind of thing, Clausewitz is way better than Sun Tzu, anyway. Clausewitz actually talks about logistics and the danger of tunnel vision.>tunnel vision like wanting to expand into the EN male market, neglecting the females, and trying to force unity to fix the consequences of your mistakeYeah…I unironically think that HoloEN would be doing better if Sora was the one who was really into making Stars a thing, not Yagoo. I’m not joking. Having trusted employees come up with new ideas who feel like they have the freedom to advocate for passion projects and then being the one to keep sight on the big picture would have been better than the guy at the top being the main advocate…
>>47955936Oh I know very well what thread I'm in, and also cause one was mine retard
>>47955507
>>47955228Who's Ens number two? Because It can't be ina.
>>47955507I wonder if you’ll ever take the next step and work on your shit English before you bother typing anymore posts. Whatever you think sounds clever in your head turns to shit when you type your broken toddler English.
>>47956011
>>47955657Based manager, she knows Korone schedule and sponsorship works that will drain her, alas Korosan has soft spot for Kiara because of that one off collab
>>47956011Fauna, then Kronii, then HAGna
>>47955326That's what Riku thought in 2019 when they allowed collabs with hololive. Anything could happen and it's too early to tell, so far the nijigirls who are part of that have been getting better numbers than normal while the holos doesn't seem to.
We LOVE Ceres in this place. Ceres hours. Ceres sweep. Ceres board. Ceres thread.
>>47956100see >>47954247
>>47955991Nijiseethe. Go samefag somewhere that's not here.
>>47955657Korone is fucking busy rn like many other holos, ofc her manager will reject an appearance in the chicken's show which grants no fucking merit and it could take time that could go to better projects or collabs. Korone accepted because she is good person that's it.
>>47956050Based Kiara, wondering if the manager assumes Korone is too swamped with other stuff and deciding to ask Korone herself. Korone’s a hag, she has enough life experience to not be autistic about this shit. If she’s been really busy lately, she’ll just say it.Also based because speaking Japanese is the only time the chimkin voice isn’t irritating
>>47955204Holy ass
>>47955749It's not enough to get the setup, they need the skills to follow-up on it. Luck is what happens when preparation meets opportunity.Subaru is a journeyman entertainer nowadays, because hololive is a safe and conductive environment to nurture talents.
>>47956100Anon? Koyori just net a 40k stream with GBF today
>>47955491well, they're fucking everywhere now. it wasn't always like this
>>47956011My wife of course. Gura's best disciple by the way.
>>47956100Did you memoryhole Koyori's stream or something?
>>47956279sounds like a bitch going against korones wishes and pushing their own shit like how lammy manager used to do. Firgures you get your average thread shitter going along with it.
>>47956361They are the exact same people that have been shitposting here for ages just with a different act
>>47956309One thing we keep hearing is how much support the hololive girls get from each other and the staff. In that environment they're able to brainstorm and refine their skills whereas in some other organizations everyone fends for themselves with little management support and so they stagnate as entertainers.
>>47955636If you watch nijiJP females you probably already knows about hololive and Pekora, she needs to either perform really well and turn those viewers to nousagi or find other audiences that hasn't know her or hololive to begin with.
>>47955204I'm so glad ina fostered an artist community. So much good eating.
>>47956100You’re forgetting something: Nijisanji was already famous back then, Hololive was not. By now everyone in Japan knows them. Like, literally that one poll of Japanese zoomers showed that, like, 90%+ recognized both companies.Also, you’re forgetting about the holobox. Even in a “worst case scenario” where Pekora collabs with someone who’s super idol-y and exactly like what people watch Hololive for…they already watch Pekora. Even if they started drifting away to the new girl, she would be one exception in a company that isn’t about that. You’d have to seriously fight inertia to actually switch oshis, and even splitting time between the corpo full of girls who do what you like and the couple of Nijis would require some amount of curating to keep the algorithm from drowning her out.
>>47956536If that's the case then A Collab with Kobo would do the trick.
>>47956330>>47956389Koyori getting 40k with 5 person solo pov collab for a big event isn't out of the ordinary, neither is polka getting 25k for similar content. I'm referring to normal solo streams and not the collab streams anyway
Has anyone tracked how the Tokyo ambassadorship has affected miko,gura,mori numberwise?
Why does Kiara stream at the worst times
we are not friends.
>>47956628>non JP audienceThat's just deadsubs at best
>>47956628Maaaaaybe. You *do* have a point. Kobo is the dream for HoloID. She was exactly what they were looking for, a talent who could get more people into the vtuber rabbit hole.Except a lot of that comes through appealing through ID zoomers, and she’s the most popular one because she speaks way more Indo and appealed to a lot of people who weren’t good enough at English to like the other ID girls.Maybe some of them will care enough to start checking out JP despite only knowing local Indonesian languages. Because I imagine anyone who knows both Indo and Japanese who watches ID was already sucked into the vtuber rabbit hole by the previous gens. I mean, that has to be why they’ve hired so many IDs who did their JP reps.
>>47955115Fauna is out here handing out free 10k ccv boosts yet the Anons here still have the audacity to deny that Fauna is EN's Pekora!??? Yup. The numbers thread has officially reclined.
Heya Saplingz
>>47955123Zeta should continue her story arc with Axel.
>>47955983>HoloEN would be doing better if Sora was the one who was really into making Stars a thing, not YagooWhile I'm not exactly sure Sora's the correct choice, I do agree that there wasn't anything inherently wrong about trying to debut a StarsEN gen. It's just that, much like how I squarely blame Kronii for the mood going to shit, it wasn't about just one mistake. It was about making mistakes, then doubling down and claiming they weren't mistakes, then tripling down and calling everyone else stupid for thinking they're mistakes, then quadrupling down and throwing even more good money after bad despite everyone else knowing it was a fucking mistake. Granted, most Cover management projects aren't this level of retarded and they usually stop shortly after their first foray fails (unless it's the mistake called INNK). But even so, the places where Cover overwhelmingly finds success are when the girls themselves find a starting point, and THEN management comes in with resources to push it further. Someone really need to get it through management's thick skulls that they're not creative geniuses in the slightest - if they were, they'd be holomem, not managers.
>>47957004Where's the ztream?
>>47957006Ceres forma diablo....
>>47956144
>>47957053Ask Bae, the raid merchant.
we here at # have forgiven Ouro Kronii
>>47957188Hey, you're right on time. I was wondering for how long are you going to keep this up
>>47956404>sounds like a bitch going against korones wishes and pushing their own shitWhat are you on about? The manager is doing her job and managing her time if Korone's wish is to collab with Kiara she would ask her manager to reach her or do it herself which is not the case and how the fuck is prioritizing important projects and collabs that benefit Korone "pushing their own shit"? do you have any fucking idea what a manager job is?
>>47955502DELET DELET DELET DELET DELET DELET
>>47957188Stop coming here and go save vesper's reclining numbers, kronii.
>FPS spam that ruins her numbers into a 2 week breakDamn, that's rough. She had such a good incline going before Vsaikyu as well.
>>47957283Maybe it's just a spring break
>>47956269草 choke yourself on Vox' limp dick faggot
>>47955502>Management fucking Fauna over so she can't put up her reservationThe match was rigged from the start
>>47957188That's right brother. Kronii may be a serial and chronic homo collaber but at least she still caters to us GFE enjoyer chads. Plus, Kronii is CUTE as hell. Personally, I forgive her. Kronii love.
>>47957051To the contrary, i think HoloEN ended up the sorry state it is now precisely because they thought they could repeat what HoloJP did and give them the amount of freedom and direction they had given the earlier ID/JP members.Instead of HoloEN creating a support structure and shared ambitions like the JP had, they ended up fractured and directionless because they are so detached from each other unlike the JPs/IDs who mostly lives in the same city.They should have had a clause in the contract that requires them to move to JP permanently to prevent something like this imho
>>47957283amE...
>>47957283>emA is burnt out and depressed toowhat's up with these blondes
Guys, I found itPunished Kronie
>>47957492looks sick, ngl
>>47955123Zeta's biggest mistake was been a fan of hololive en instead of JP. If she made friends with the other zoomers in Jp like Kuroe, Nene and the council of Lamys, she would be a 5view
>>47957492This is what being forced to watch homo collabs does to a nigga
>>47957260wait we have people who suck shit out of managers assholes here ?
>>47957591it's cover intern-kun. they're a regular /here/.
>>47957433Save the hags. Breed the eggs
This will be handy for later
>>47957463Maybe that would have been better, but they were A.) expecting EN to have ID numbers at first, and B.) hoping to hire the best candidates they could find.Requiring them to agree to move to Japan when it wasn’t clear they’d have this level of success? That’s a really risky move.Yes, in retrospect, it seems obvious that Myth’s blowup success was fleeting and unsustainable. But after that happened, there’s no way you can just tell them to do what you tell them to instead of what they want when them doing what they want got the branch this far in the first place.And if they did that now? Most of Council and probably Ame and Ina would just graduate instead. They can’t even put their foot down and force the girls to stream, putting any demands on them is impossible because of how much they’ve grabbed management by the balls with these other missteps.
Cover developed a karaoke app for Holo use only apparently.
>>47957657I CAN SAVE IT ALL, JUST LET ME
>>47957744yeah, we discussed it few days ago
>>47957626Yea, it seems very odd to think the way they do. Instead, the manager should provide an assorted list of 'things that you have upcoming' and then let Korone pick the ones to fit in instead of automatically rejecting something of their own volition like that. Frankly that screams 'poor manager' to me.
>>47957744>developedThey're in a partnership with joysound
>>47957591Kronii's manager lurks these very threads. Why do think Fauna was forced to delete her POV frame just moments after an anon here brought up that Kronii would get absolutely mogged in an overlap with Fauna?
>>47957006Apparently she's not good.
>>47954185Yea Shaka rpr and other regular streamers are always favorites to win vsaikyo
>>47954152that's hot i want to sniff her armpits
>>47955326Wow it’s almost like everyone has been saying they get nothing from this while niji does get benefits
>>47957744Based. Instead of begging for license permissions. Cover will instead become the permission.
>>47957454
>>47957902RPR was coaching in VSaikyou and Shaka is buddies with them so it's their circle, it's an invite-only thing, Pekora can't just barge in if she wanted to
>>47957962why mumei looks like a drug addict in this artstyle?
>>47957829It’s an actual app, they’re making the girls manually request each song they want added from the joysound library.
>>47956859She lives in the worst timezone and won't shift her sleep schedule +/- 5 hours to cover NA.
>>47957988Stop noticing things. Silly anonfag-kun.
>>47957998Yea it's invite only but it has nothing to do with vsaikyo retard. The fucking Kaguya-sama mangaka is there, do you think he's part of the fps circle?
Is there anything you'd like to say that you haven't gotten a chance to yet, /#/?
>>47957744Apparently the talents are required to send in a form for the songs they want to sing beforehand, Kiara stayed up all night doing it for 500 Hello Project songs
>>47955657Timestamp?
>>47958040It's only great news if they're able to sing non JP songs on public karaoke, which is probably still a no no
>>47957988dont be a catalog n-word
>>47958040The software might be custom but it's just a reskinning of the joysound one
>>47958072Why the fuck should she cover NA when the rest of the branch is tripping over themselves to overlap there?
>>47958097I wanna lick Gura's armpits
>>47958086Majority of the participants there are from Vsaikyou you fucking numbskull, he's part of their circle whoever is managing it, you'd think anyone just barges into their server?
>>47957454>>47957188
>>47957988Oh no... We're being raided by kronii bots.
Are Japs familiar with GTA RP? I think it would be fun for a bunch of vtubers to try that out, but only as a seasonal event thing
>>47958181Probably still gonna win cripple gold, but it's gonna be a lot more interesting now that Kobo got a PoV as well.
>Pekora x King collab>Botan x King collab>Chinman x Marine collabUnicorns are depriving us of this kino. We need to retvrn to tradition.
`Why did Iryss move her start time?
>>47958222If it uses mods then there's low chance
kiara has a male friend who wants to talk to her about ted lasso and keeps bugging her about it...
>>47958250....Huh, that's curious. IRyS.....
>>47958250To start before Mori
>>47957188No. It's not about male collabs anymore, it's realizing she's just your average ethot grifter who never gave a single shit about Hololive or her fans. She can start spamming as much GFE shit as she wants the illusion is already broken.
>>47958278Anon, Kiara in the past literally talked about a male friend (friend boyfriend) which would accompany her and her friend into a hike.
>>47954237AAAAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE
Luxiem outfit reveal had almost 4x the numbers of Ina's outfit revealWhy is there not 4x the amount of catalog shitposts about them?
>>47958155Because she could play with other members in online games and EU and NA could both watch her in the overlap pile up.If she shifted -5 hours she could cover degen NA and SEA. Her current slot is JP degen through EU primetime to the start of NA for superchat readings.
Nice thread /uuu2/
>>47958181>mori is the circlewdkmbt?
>>47958448The vast majority of his fans don't use 4chan.
>>47958448The sisters already outted themselves on the doxx site and were talking about regretting boosting it to 80k instead of just 50k.
>>47958595don't check luxiem outfit chat's overlap in vrabi
Sub 2k streamer now. Next stop 3-view
>>47958250Ohhh based IRyS moving it 2 hrs sooner (1hr earlier than after Mori). Also Gura has members stream at the same time so no chumbud tourist to attract
>>47958250>Mori's waiting room>Kobo's waiting room>The stragglers will likely settle for herIt's that easy. Stream an hour earlier than everyone and enjoy the benefits of all their viewers watching your streams. Fauna has perfected this method perfectly. even a Gura or Ina overlap is incapable of lowering her steady floor.
>>47958788Fauna will 100% overlap her though lmao. Last week was just bad shit after bad shit but she plans on doing longer Sunday streams.
>>47955657reminder that TO THIS DAY KORONE'S LIVE2D IS NOT FIXED YETMANAGERS ARE USELESS PIECE OF SHIT LITERAL SPIES SHITTING HOLOLIVE>>47956279kys intern
>>47958448>almost 4x More like 3, but math was never /#/ strong suit.
>>47958788So... It's the reverse of a funnel.
>>47958768>remembers the twitch take over arcSo did that shit not work at all? They keep losing people and all of them are reclining even with all the collabs
>>47958454Time-zones doesn't matter when the streamer is the issue
>>47958896>>47958448its a mystery how niji viewers never seem to stick around anywhere
>>47958904She might also get a funnel from Fauna depending on how long she streams Bioshock 2.
>>47958896>basically 22 / 7, which is literally piNeat
>>47958896Wow, that's pretty close. DM someone from antiquity, they'd like that ratio.
>>47958768>>47958870Don’t care, Luxiem got 80k outfit reveals. Yagoo please release Tempus3 and get the unicorns to leave once and for all
Kronii sporting a 10k median for the month of April at this moment
https://twitter.com/ceresfauna/status/1650214817054224384Is this the first time Fauna directly acknowledges one of her sisters?
>>47958595Is this why some femanon seethed when I congratulated Luxiem for those numbers and said I didn’t hate them but just thought the sisters could spend their time better just enjoying their cripple gold? I just thought it was cognitive dissonance from seeing someone who liked Hololive and didn’t have a hateboner for males.I’m starting to wonder if they legitimately, unironically would have been less mad if I’d just accused them of using bots.
>>47959173Not at all.
>>47959173The indie half sister SC'd her and she responded in kind. I think the only ones she hasn't interacted with are Ema and the Niji one because they haven't interacted with her first.
>>47959173she dared to talk about fauna so...
>>47959225>she responded in kind.I mean she responded to the SC and acknowledged her. In kind means she sc'd back which she didn't. I'm so sleepy and it's only 4pm
>>47959094She's probably the top 1 EN this month
>>47954152Hoomans are upset that their oshi is autistic. Meanwhile IRyStocrats have the personification of sex as their oshi (IRyS) and she always makes us blow the biggest, most powerful loads.
>>47958199They need an invite but you can get an invite if you're notorious enough. They have random mangaka, cosplayers, artists, variety streamers, etc. Vsaikyo is for vtubers only and like half the people in the Rust server are flesh ecelebs you retarded nigger.
>>47959173>Another mama/papa leechJesus, it's fucking Uto all over again
>>47957471All blondes are depressedt. am blonde
>>47958848>TO THIS DAY KORONE'S LIVE2D IS NOT FIXED YETWhat's wrong with Korone's L2D?
>>47958110does joysound have a PC app?I only know of the one on the nintendo switch
>>47958987>22/7≈>3.14285714285714285…>3.142857142857143Almost like >>47958896 just choose to post a picture of it rounded
>>47959342ina is already 5 streams in this month, need only 1 more to qualify, if she stream shes locked #1
>>47959416Work with what you got. Look at this fucking discrepancy.
>>47959173> x4 the vod views on her debut and 4 times the subs compared to her genmates Life isn’t fair…. Just because she is Fauna’s sister
>>47959366You have some reading comprehension problems retard?
>>47959504Yeah if you are stuck in Vee of all places might as well try everything you can.
>>47959173https://twitter.com/KOKUYOU_LIRA/status/1650197885525569537wait it's the first time I check her profile. What the actual fuck? Is she Italian? SESSO.
>>47958913it never works, there's a genuine pattern there. there's almost 0 chance that regular holo fans didn't know about the existence of Homostars. "exposure to holobox" has never been homostars' problem. the box just refuses to watch them for years already.
Red homo on live support... save him...
>>47959357As an IRyStoBud I can confirm this
>>47959553It's honestly weird to me because the despite the culture being different somehow both JP and the general west seem to STILL highly prefer girls. You'd think it'd be different and the boys would be more welcome.
>>47959584No, unless he is Uyu tier he's doing good.
>>47957850AIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>47959534Might be BR, these were her first two follows.
>>47959461it can't move properlyhttps://youtu.be/aXTtBfz1NqQ?t=50
>>47959534Yeah the bio says JP/IT, that inflection on the vowels smells like north.
A reminder that just a day before Luxiem had their outfit reveals. This very thread got raided by obnoxious nijisister vermin who kept parading around fairy tale imaginary numbers, saying shit like how the outfits would have a 150k floor? How abhorrently pitiful. It's so obvious that they're botting too. All for what? Cripple gold? Rumao Rumao.
>>47959584Gamma has been doing great tho?
You guys still haven't figured out why holoPro is approaching other content creators?In an era where debuting a new members in StarsJP is a massive waste of resources and debuting a gen in HoloJP is such a big ordeal that they don't have the staff to keep up with it...there are other ways to expand/spread their reach.This is Hololive Production's Acceleration Codenamed: Hirogaru HololiveLetting their talents recruit well established personalities as honorary holos. Empower them with the blessing of numbers, brighten their mood up, having them talk about holoPro members on their streams. This is a big influence over those audiences that always saw hololive as this encapsulated unapproachable "idol" thing that's unrelated to them. Their objective isn't to increase their regulars stream watchers (hardcore fans), but to expand the reach of the market into the mainstream. It wouldn't be so strange now to see a Nui fan getting Pekora's merch... I mean, why wouldn't you get a Pekora merch if you are a fan of a virtual content creator?.Guess where those funnels are going to go. Guess how fast these stage tickets are going to sell out.Time for the box to expand beyond the debut meta, and only the worthy are allowed in.
>>47959719>No, unless he is Uyu tier he's doing good.Dude is not far off.
>>47959584I'm watching as much of his clips as possible and I'm liking as much tweets about him as possible, I even made a Reddit account to talk about him there and upvote comments and posts about him.
>>47959774Her looking down all the time makes her look more adorable
>>47959515Do you? It has nothing to do with Vsaikyo. There's some overlap between the players because guess what, many vtubers who are interested in events like Vsaikyo are also interested in events like VCR. You just need to get invited by the vault room people, which just requires you to be notorious enough for them to want to invite you. There's plenty of random well known people like Enako, Shiromanta, Aka, Kagura Nana, etc. who have nothing to do with Vsaikyo or any sort of FPS circle who got in, while Kuga Leo, who literally works for the person behind Vsaikyo and who got 2nd place in this year's tournament, was denied an invite because he's not a big enough deal as a general eceleb.
>>47959827Relax anon, Pekora playing GBF with people is not part of a secret Hololive operation
>>47958181In preparation of HoloPro server
>>47959827As an added boon, they can get indies and other VTubers to use their future platforms
>>47959623>Gather a western following because they like what you offer>Open a EN branch for them>Try to change it and convert it into something that’s different than what they came forWow I wonder why it keeps failing and the branch keeps declining? Surely the Fans that came to you want something totally different than what they came to you for!!!
>>47958595Proof? Sounds like something the thread would have had a field day with if it actually happened.
>>47954249>14,145: Kiara (Hololive)damn, was i the only one expecting more from korosan? was there heavy overlap?
>>47959584I'm sorry but Mori and Kronii don't give a shit about tempus 2.
>>47959897Yeah but she usually likes to "look at the audience" or "follow elements in the game" so it's fuckedThat's why she is using her 3d lately
>>47958212the discord has their eyes set even since merch # drop, botting and koreans goes hand to hand.
>>47958181I hope horse sc anon keeps his promise!
>>47959623It's almost like Hololive fills a niche for female streamers that aren't JUST ethots or something! It's not like male vtubers offer anything special in particular that male stremers can't do. NijiJP just happened to capture a good chunk of that market in Japan, with the rest of it going to Jun and the fpsgang respectively.
>>47959584I'm gonna watch his clips now and make a twitter thread about how holofans should treat watching the bois as if it's a charity event.
A lot of HoloEN streaming today. 4 are doing members though.
>>47955657very interestingthis gives credibility to the fact that management as behind the separation of EN and JP and told JP girls to stop pandering to eops. this is why marine for instance stopped with the oversea sexy guys bits. literally her manager told her to stop. as to why i have no idea but there is something really shady and creepy going on at cover's managerial positions that neither a-chan nor yagoo know how to handle.
>>47960081I know>members stream>members WATCHALONGbut Gura stream + Handcam members may actually fuck IRyS in the ass.
>>47960081SOMETHING IS GOING TO HAPPEN I CAN FEEL IT
>>47959929What does majority mean you fucking retard
>>47960081Is Mumei drawing Vox new costume?
>>47954007Nousagi hate Apex and Pekora only plays it once every million years https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQJCiZVYzC0
>>47959623I really enjoy there being a kind of similarity between JP and EN Hololive fans that crosses the language barrierKind of amazing that despite speaking different languages and being from different cultures, EN and JP Holo fans tend to be more like each other than EN Holo and EN Niji or JP Holo and JP Niji fans
>>47959623This is such a stupid take. Like if Americans keep ordering your sushi and coming to Japan for it specifically and you open a Steak house with your franchise name in the USA then go "huh? but I thought our franchise was popular in America and they love steak? doko?"
>>47959357Impossible. Mumei's autism is one of her strongest points.
>>47960008There was approximately 90k watching HoloJP when that holotalk was going on. I pegged this holotalk to be in the 12-15k range, and I was right on the mark.
>>47956825not at all. youtube and twitter have their own agenda. they dont give a fuck
>>47959584But Gamma has been doing quite well
>>47960081Watson about to come in with a stream to overlap, this is prime real estate for her.
>>47959623This wouldn't have happened if they had HomoID.Unironically all of Homobeggars seem to be either sisters, fags (minority) or SEA self inserting. Give SEA their full on self inserts so they don't have to settle for weirdo murricans.
>>47960172>being from different culturesburgers have a culture now??
>>47959805Oh fuck, guess I'll give her a try. There is a very famous Italian cosplayer named after an MTG card who lives in Japan. Wouldn't be surprised if it's her or someone with a similar journey.Italy is full of fucking weebs and sooner or later I'm sure the fad will get here too.
>>47960021>>47959774What if Korone has a 1st Lamy-tier manager?
>>47960081today I'm gonna see Kronii's hands!!!! if she has fat hands like gura I'm gonna kill myself
>>47960179Holostars JP already existed though, so that fucking steak house already existed.
>>47959584Instructions clear, watching some clips
>>47960247SEA lusts for white cock not SEA cock.
>>47959810>Riku fooled Fagoo into thinking Luxiem were popular with bots and made him kill his brand with TempissHonestly genius move. Riku I kneel.
>>47960081Mandated weekend membership streams is going to be the new meta isn’t it
>>47959584Gamma is doing great tho?
I fucking hate watchalongs …. I would unironically prefer that she has longer breaks and actually does better memebers streams instead of watchalongs every week….
Why is Cover so fucking sloooooooooow in giving the gaijin their sutpid 3d showcases. Come the fuck on ID2 was literally already in Japan. Let's move this shit. Will we ever have a gaijin gen who's 3d isn't like 2 years into their career?
>>47960290surprise off collab with the leech
>>47959943Pekora is just one loud instance, before that we saw out of the top of my head:- Suisei networking with KAF and many Bushiroad seeiyu talents- Marine approaching Mito and networking with seeiyu - Axel fighting for Selen's dream
>>47959584red man is fine, until the rust arc ends. then we will see who really stays.
>>47960320No I'm not talking about SEA sisters. I'm talking about the SEA men who seem to be 99% of homobeggers.
>>47960372>Will we ever have a gaijin gen who's 3d isn't like 2 years into their career?Probably Tempus,
APOLOGIZE!>APOLOGIZE RIGHT NOW!
>>47960359>I would unironically prefer that she has longer breaksI know you do, sister.
>>47959623Most holofans and vtubers fans in general are weebs there's not culture difference here, if anything western fans are more likely to exaggerate whatever they perceive as JP/Otaku culture.
>>47960359Anon this ain't /ggg/ your post is not on topic at all. You could have said something like>why the fuck does Gura skip her POV in collabs and then do member streams, this shit leaves massive gaps of weeks on her channel that is killing it even when she does put out some content each week
>>47960331Don’t forget how he baited him into giving HoloEn a concert too. Imagine Yagoo panicking and making a concert that is going to lose money on and riku just “COVID” the nijiEn one. Kek!
>>47960246https://youtu.be/PuRdiDDJ2Ec
Phase Connect
>>47959763She have JP / IT on her Bio, so my rrat is that she have a Italian Dad and a japanese brasilian Mother
>>47959504Damn, she already passed all of their 3rd & 4th Gen in subs.
>>47960449Kek I love when Pekora tried to be a leader
>>47959094This is the best Kronii can do after all that buff spamming?
>>47960521>The only one affected is MoriBASED
>>47960476Nah I unironically hate react to shit with a fucking passions. She does good members streams so this feels like dog shit compared to the usual ones….
>>47960435>SEA menKek as if just being a man from SEA wasn't shitty enough, even the name is hilarious
>>47960521Holy shit Ame I was just making a joke
You fags literally cannot go one fucking thread without mentioning Fauna, can you?
>>47960049>It's not like male vtubers offer anything special in particular that male stremers can't doWrong. Few male streamers are shameless coomers pandering to women like the male streams. Ironically, in the west:-Women rely on charisma wit and entertainment factor since all of their models are gorgeous so no looks buff-Men rely on the models+voice combos +coomerbait so they can trick women they're super pretty boy sex gods
>>47959827this is likely to pave the way for HoloEarth's eventual release. A vtuber Metaverse. They're also currently building the largest 3D studio in Japan? Hololive is expanding the walled garden in preparation for the Vtuber singularity that will kill western vtubing. Kson was right once again.
>>47960593Nice try sister but you won't be able to save face.
>>47960509We shit on watchalongs all the time tho. Everyone knows it’s an absolute numbers debuff. You don’t think most members would think the same?
>>47959584>Red homo on live support... save him...I already watched a clip a couple of weeks ago. WHAT ELSE DO YOU FUCKING WANT FROM ME?!
>>47960406
>>47960511>Riku sold no tickets at all>Yagoo sold outWhat the fuck was Yagoo thinking he's basically bankrupted himself with that one+ Holofes selling out
>>47960154https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1cYL4WE4uxZ6jjjlZnIdP4GWsd1V93tPv188ek01-DzI/edit?usp=sharingHere's the list of VCR participants. Most of them did not participate in Vsaikyo.
>>47960672ru-tan....
VesperoniiCHAD WW@ ?!?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vth3jQ4u7gUhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vth3jQ4u7gU
>>47959827>>47960646Wait am I a schizo if I've unironically been convinced this is what they're going for?
>>47960627Sorry I can’t stop thinking about my wife!
>>47960666Anon numberfagging member streams is retarded
>>47960521>IRyS dodging the bullet by moving to the earlier timeslot
>>47960495>western fans are more likely to exaggerate whatever they perceive as JP/Otaku culture.For example the anti-idols trying to start shit by screeching every time any holo is seen in the vicinity of a male
>>47960722Sorry I ain't wastin my time, good on you though
>>47960562if they didn't spend money on bots for a measly 10k median maybe the merch would had have sold more desu
>>47960774Me on the left
>>47960693>HoloEn concert literally opened more ticket the next day because it sold out the 1st batchOh oh hopefully Cover bought the full package or they are going to go into the red with all the extra fees for selling more than they thought….
>>47959623why are you misogynist?
>>47960819There is literally no such thing, you keep falling for /vt/ shitposts.
>>47960081It's COMING SOONER THAN YOU THINK.
>>47960770Anon...Cover is a AR/VR company and has always been about providing tools and platforms for connecting via AR/VRIt's a given that they would expand into letting whoever become a VTuber on their platform with a chance of attaining affiliated status, i.e. becoming a real Holo
>>47960081They are going on gachi assault before en3 comes
>>47960552kek, they just took the ball and ranhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_WbiNdmcsU
Kiara members poll numbers. I'm guessing participation is super high since it's members but I thought 200-300 ccv was normal when we had the iphone bug.
>>47960272the managers changes a lot and there are lots of shit managerswhen korone was on her peak in 2020 she had a manager who didn't give a fuck about its work to the point korone even said on stream that she had "nothing to do", no sponsors, no projects, nothing and she wanted to do thingshttps://files.catbox.moe/ucojlr.mp4I almost posted this link lemaohttps://files.catbox.moe/55a7fi.jpg
>>47958086Yes actually, he's been in plenty of apex events. He's gotten in trouble for sexually harassing women he's playing apex with years back.
His /v/ video didn't do as well, so now he's back to /vt/. Zion edition.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9uChe2XZ0U
>>47959623Most men are in fact heterosexual
>>47961170>I almost posted this link lemaokek, that would be a express way to bantown
>>47961225But a much higher percentage of Gen Z than even millennials would fuck femboys.
>>47961115It's in line with the likes so seems accurate
Kiara said girls can't get cat ears for their outfits anymore unless it's clear they're fake. It seems like designs can't overlap in general, some kind of new rule.
>>47960179flawed comparison. that steakhouse could still be good. Kobe beef is famous, isn't it?
>>47961266>Collab with Vesper>Vesper fan makes them his accessories The fate of every woman….
>>47961318>we will never get FaunyaFuck this gay earth
>>47960081With the newly added Debuffson frame, Bae is the only one not streaming.
Hinano has been streaming Rust for almost 21 hours
>>47961409Ina...
>>47961318good, i hate that everyone is a cat but i would like a canon small cat ears for anya
>>47961323You forgot to take into acct the more popular Steakhouse that’s already established down the road.
>>47961318Honestly feels like management is conducting a microaggression psyop against the girls to demotivate them. Arbitrary rule autism is a common component. It managed to kill the Rust server.
>>47961115>I thought 200-300 ccv was normal when we had the iphone bugAnon you silly baka, you know normal youtube CCV display is broken to hell and back, why would member ccv you get through a bug be reliable?
>>47961318EN3 will be a furry gen and all members will be furry eared creatures. Finally. EN Pekora is on her way.
>>47961451Sorry. She's playing video games in my living room so I thought she was streaming.
>Ame doing more RM stuff in futureNice “burnout”
>>47961323But they're *not* Kobe beef. They're a sushi restaurant.
>>47960774Oh, is it ai posting hours already?Feral edition?
>>47961534Passive aggressive managers are getting to her?
>>47960081>Mori split POV with Kobodamn...about to get mogged by an ID. That's just gonna be sad. Also why the fuck has Mori stopped doing any EN collabs outside Chad and SKWAD?
>>47961534Post proof before you get banned faggot
>>47961564Vanilla WOW trailer with druid Fauna shapeshifting into a Kirin rent free in my head rn
>>47961534kek, why not. might as well just let her become Mori-level in ccv now.
>>47961564forkin ai
>>47957743Ina finally finding the will to leave her mother’s nest and actually live in Japan with the added benefit of her manager feeding her, being an alarm clock, and the occasional holo that wants to clean her room for her will be fine. The ones to graduate would be ame and kronii.Everything else you said is also wrong. ID flopped but they had freedom and were still doing better than stars. On paper and at an interview myth is a dream team. Gura is what made myth an anomaly and you’re a retard for saying their success was fleeting. If Leonardo DiCaprio gets arrested today for rape you won’t say his success was fleeting you say he killed his career. That’s what en management and myth did or more aptly mori and ame. Ina, Gura, and Kiara has been more or less the same since debut. Ame killed unity despite having a hand in smol myth, and Mori put holollive third while also causing the fans to have their name dragged through the mud. All of this hurt council who was down a man and their ace was useless. Didn’t see the bulk of problems until 2022 more lies from mori, ame being weird with streaming, gura and ina still consistent but less streams putting it all on council who once again was down a man with their ace never showing up. Ironically despite this they were still getting bigger as seen by June and early july before sana revealed she was graduating. Fauna/Mumei collabs could reach 18k alone, 20k karaokes, and 20k holocure.>Sana was the absolute worst hire ruined the monthly council collabs they tried to keep and made it awkward to plan council collabs without her which led to irys being picked up.En was plagued with problems in 2021 namely 4 members, it got worse in 2022 but they were still growing and pretty fast until 5 days after sana graduation announcement. That was the tipping point and every month it got worse.
>>47961318They probably realized that giving everyone cat ears will cheapen "Kemonomimi" character designs.
>>47961441>again
>>47961318management being based for oncethese bitches were spamming the cat ears too much and it was getting tiresome
>>47961318dont worry, homos still can
>>47960406This kind of thing is like half of Towa's career lol
>>47955760Why would a manager that keeps the girls on tight schedules try not to have it ruined.
>>47960396Kanata’s in Canada?
>>47961809>shadynecroah ah ah
>>47961318Also /hlgg/ said no bunny suit as well because obvious reasonSo it seem Pekora go monopoly on that front
>>47961487True, but if you try to claim there's a 2x cull you'll just get bombarded with cull cope posts.I do think members numbers are likely larger now thanks to gifting, likely even 1.5x+ larger. Would love to see numbers from some of the bigger gift recipients like Watame.
>>47961720July 2022 was a death knell for HoloEN>One of them graduates, proving god can bleed>they debut homosIt's a very "okay time for me to leave, the show is getting shit" moment for the fanbase.
>an Uproar member gets ten times more CCV than a Tempiss member nowWHAT HAPPENED??? SISTEEEEERS
>>47961858It's not just bunny suit, it's any costume that would overlap too much with someone else's design
>>47961534>check rm>deleted accounthuh?
>>47961618https://twitter.com/pachipea/status/1650243326699016192
>These VSPOs girls pulling numbersarent they above most NijiJP now?? How long till they overtake Niji to be 2nd top agency??
>>47961170The fact you say 2020 is her peak makes you a retard.
>>47961912So... what you're saying is we will get proper swimsuits for Holosummer? Sounds like a win in my book
>>47961902I'll be honest it always seemed to me like Gamma was a standout by homo standards. He's fucking Roberu with art skills.Let's see if he keeps the incline when Rust is dead, let's not forget Rust made Anya fucking 5-8k streamer for a while.
>>47961969last year rust was about the same, all of vspo pulled ahead
>>47961969VSPO as a whole has had a better average than NijiJP as a whole for MONTHS.
>>47961720who is Council's ace?
>>47961275Millennials had so many popular traps but there's much less these days. Zoomers rather call them trans and would likely ruin the chat for one.
>>47961275Stop believing gay propaganda fucking faggot you’re in no way normal
>47961938>ISREALYep, it's over
>>47961611She’s doing Mythbreakers like next week and mentioned wanting to do a Fauna collab
>>47962016Mumei.
>>47962016It should have been Kronii but realistically its Moomei
>>47961938>this used to be a VTuber account, but i am not planning on doing any content like that here for the foreseeable futureESL?
>>47961902DELET!
>>47961938>rare desk streamsWhatever
>>47962060>She’s doing Mythbreakers like next weekYeah, but initially it was going to be her narrating some half assed ending so she can bury it and move on to SKWAD TRRPGs. I don't even know why Kronii keeps jumping into these, since when the fuck did she care about Mori and Magni enough to constantly collab with them
>>47962083It just means she will do flesh content from time to time now, like Mori
>>47962083how is this news?
>>47961768This. What's the point of Okayu being a cat when Gura (Shark) can get them later. It's all dumb and I'm glad there are outfit restrictions. No wonder new hololive outfits look tame and safe. Just look at grandma Pomu. Literally ruined her aesthetic and appeal with that garbage white hair abomination
>>47962066>>47962069Mumei's not really a good streamer, though. she should stick to shitposts.
WELLLLLLLLLLL NUMBERFAGS!?!??!?!?!?>Here's the rule: you can only shitpost about Tempus's number if and/or when they perform worse than StarsJPWELLLLL!?!?!?!?!?! YOUR RESPONSE!?!??!?!
Please save flygon... onegai...
>>47962129Didn't Mori visit Kronii?
>>47961938Rip, Tempus literally put the final nail in the coffin and killed Ina, Ame and Gura for us ……
>>47962012then why do we still about Niji, lets start talking about VSPO. They get better numbers and this is # thread
>>47961720Easiest solution for En problems is En3. It will reignite interest in fans who left/started losing interest over years and possibly motivate girls to do shit. I have no idea why it's still not a thing.
>>47962129>since when the fuck did she care about Mori and Magni enough to constantly collab with themShe doesn't, but her daddy vespy will be there, no way she will miss the occasion to be unhinged with him
>>47962020zoomers instead became femboys irl.
>>47961225most people don't watch entertainers to get off.
>>47961938The fuck is a desktuber
>>47962204Because this is the horserace thread and VSPO has had like two golds EVER.
>>47962219Depends on how many of those "fans who left" just migrated to Holo-proper instead
>>47961900Yeah, it kind of dispelled the magic when Sana flipped Hololive off and left. Before that, fans were under the impression that the girls considered it a dream job.
>>47961902Why are we pretending like Rust is a permanent buff? Who are you newfags?Please go check Polka’s numbers during Rust anon. No really, I beg you. PLEASE go check it and then check what she gets nowadays
>>47962129i mean it's pretty much confirmed that Mori is the sole lynchpin of ZE SQUAD collab, so...
>>47957998>>47958199>>47960154>>47960826Retard you never said majority originally, then you side stepped it to those in the clique even if they haven’t participated which actually would include anyone close with the current holo girls. Then you get actual proof that you’re wrong and now decide you’re not wasting your time anymore. Stupid Monkey
>>47962129Pretty sure Mori has organized every single collab so far, she is really desperate for that unit to become a permanent thing.
>>47961938>desktuberkek
>>47962129Kronii talked about sliding into Mori’s DMs pre debut, she was Kronii’s first non Council 1 on 1, during the Fes watchalong Kronii said “I want to taste Death”
>>47961938Management shooting down her rented 3D home studio idea mindbroke her
>>47960627Why don’t you get mad about the random kronii posters?
>>47961938>You might like>>Mumei RM>>Kronii RM>>Sana RM>Who to follow>>Mumei RM>>Sana RM>>Fagni RMHow?
>>47962411Kronii actually brings numbers
>>47962434That's how an algorithm works, anon
>>47960722>Most of them did not participate in Vsaikyo.Most participated either on VSaikyou or on CR Cup. it's the FPS box, 100%
>>47962434>Actually getting gura's pre HER account on recommendedKEK WTF
>>47962383After she had a falling out with gura, i think she's just looking for a group gura doesn't have complete domination over. Even in group collabs they seem to avoid talking to each other.
Vesper raided Flygoner. Hes gonna make it another day
>>47960632Few famous male streamers you mean because that’s literally connor before finding an in with the anitubers
>>47962219Easiest solution is an accelerated EN3 then EN4 with as little a time frame as there was between Council and Myth. Surely they realize that the older gens keep semi retiring. If they wait 2 more fucking years for EN4 we'll be back to square 1 with Myth/Council having mostly fucked off, EN3 looking to take it easy etc
>>47962458Don’t look at Mori’s monthly views compared to Kronii’s
>>47962204Looking at Niji's average is funny for shitposting but obviously it makes no sense given how they work lol, their whole thing is that they debut a million shitters and they give them no support and if a handful of them make it big then that's good enough. Obviously all the random 3view literally whos who did not make it big lower the average but that doesn't really affect the agency as long as they have tokyo ghoul and chinman and whoever else pulling numbers at the top.
>>47962458Found the Kroniicuck.
>Gura starts her no streams right as Tempiss would be getting trained, also RM posted for the 1st time since debute>Ina collabed once with them and never again, doesn’t stream anymore. Decided to focus more RM stuff>Ame’s Tempiss debacle and choosing Tempiss cock over Gura has her so depressed she reopened RM acct>Mori’s numbers are fucking abyssal after all the Tempiss collabs>Kiara numbers go down every time she mentions NijiEnGood job cover and fucking tranny ass En management I fucking hate you faggots
>>47962402>rented 3D home studioWhy rent when she can buy some decent place and set up the needed stuff and rent it out when she doesn't need it
>>47961809Kek. T-chan is seethin. Finally. The Real Hololive fans are finally starting to wake up from their homo conditioned slumber. Holochads are and returning to their roots. They have been silenced for far too long and now the cracks have begun to form. I'm due time that homo tainted leddit hugbox will be unicorn territory. BELIEVE.
>>47961938It's over, she's gone
>>47962337seethe more faggot
This is doing pretty well.
>>47962458buy her merch instead of shitposting here, clockcuck
>>47961534Rosemi tier 3 membership?
>>47962498I don't think it was ever confirmed to be her, is it?Also what the fuck, so many recent tweets
>>47960593What about a watchalong is react content? If she had 0 reactions and kept her mic muted would that no longer make it react content?
>>47962661Scroll up and check the deleted posts
>>47962577That's what the anon was referring to, retardchama. it's shot down by cover.
>>47962434What do you mean how? It's simply enough of an overlap among the followers and the content produced for the AI to detect that they belong to the same communityIt's all open-source if you want to dig into it
I hate women, they annoy me very much, I can't barely watch a stream anymore and the only fun I have is shitposting on /#/
>>47961988not him but no permission first half 2020 was objectively peak Korone, now that I think of it, it was definitely peak Marine as well
>>47962672
>>47961720>>47961900Neh, the tipping recline point for HoloEN was the first Myth offcollab arc. It was something that the fans waited since day fucking 1 and it turned out to be extremely disappointing and proving that most Myth members have no chemistry with each other. And of course it was the beginning of the endless dead hours and no streams. It was around that time that Kaela inclined and began getting some discussions in /hlgg/, people were bored and absolutely looking for some English content to watch.>Sana's graduationunironically one of the high point of 2022 for EN. It brought back some emotional punch into a branch that was completely burnt out and going through the motions. Of course it was a net negative in the long run but the graduation arc itself was good, so much EN reached their 2022 peak with it.>Tempissthe final nail in the coffin. Mainly the shitty collab arc after their first month. Keep in mind things were only getting worse with Ina and Gura starting to stream less, most of the fanbase was already bored and apathetic and mainly watching out of habit, the drama and constant infight in the community was the tipping point that turned away a lot of people.
>>47962661It’s actually fucking real. RIP Ame. Why she choose to shill Tempiss and break her bond with Gura even if it was already fractured? God we are about to lose them both AmeSame bros…… TAKE ME BACK
>>47962161Kronii was their ace. You’d probably never know with the way people run man defense for her that she streamed about as much as gura despite all of her absences. And this is her first year that’s a huge problem
>>47962545anon, out of those 200-300 vtubers, how many are pulling more than VSPO average?? Cutting them some slack by saying shitters pulling the avg down is not the reality, the reality is all of them are shitters except 2-3 big ones
>>47962579I mean, at this point every Hololive fan must feel sick to their stomach realizing that HoloEN decided to replace girl gens with male gens rather than hiring for both.
>>47962672if you're on about bbtv the account likely got highjacked or had the handle taken since checking way back machine the earliest post archived is from 2016 but the account says it was made 2017
>>47962591You wasn’t done after all look at that.
Reminder the only reason why Fauna hasn't reclined is that her fans bot her streams and is why her vods get culled to hell
>Cover killing their Female streamer haven and western medias wet dream to promote more fucking dude streamersAre they fucking mentally I’ll? It’s all been luck the whole time hasn’t it?
>>47961809>watching streamsshiggy diggy...
>>47962909could you repeat that? your ESL is too thick
>>47962004>>47962310I know niggas, I was literally the one who brough up Anya the other day to show how powerful the Rust buff is. Still pretty funny tho and on top of that Dingo is also playing Rust with way worse results than Gamma. Keep in mind that Uproar has the record to be the single worst performing gen for Cover.
>>47962672CURRENTLY it's not HER. She deactivated the account and some squatter picked it up to pretend to be HER. But still the fact the account is recommended by twitter at all shows that enough people are digging around for twitter to pick it up.
I keep getting recommended someone named Hachi, a vsinger/vtuber. Is this person a corpo I don't know about or is it just algo nonsense. She doesn't sound familiar.
>>47962946its been hard work from the girls to promote themselves while retarded management adds more and more penises to the payroll to dilute their earnings
>>47962579ESL-chama... Your English reps... Dumpster tier.
>>47961900but there had already been JP graduations, and you couldn't reasonably believe EN was in a better position than them.
Why search for more Faunas, Koyoris or Chloe’s when they can replicate the success of Uproar and Tempus2 instead!!!!
>>47963055>not knowing Hachi aw, how did you find this place
I only buy merch of my oshi and other cgdcti will NEVER superchat or buy a membership since cover spreads that money to the homos
>>47963143because they want to.
>>47962252 No one questions when women enjoy their fujobait series with all male casts and pandering targeted towards them.
>>47963055Same papa as Mio, and had multiple collab with holo girl, probably why
Has all the burgers left /vt/ for the nijiboard?
>>47962577She still uses the 3D home studio pretty frequently it’s the only thing she does other than CSGO
https://youtu.be/XUQJ9pUw6dotowa loves the browns
>>47963143Fauna isn't a good hire and shouldn't be put with Koyori or Chloe. She has done nothing of value and never reinvests into her content nor does she do anything but stream, but she doesn't even stream much either
>>47963199After questioning if I was homosexual for loving towa, some fags recommended I come here. They said If I fit in, then I'm certainly a fag.
https://www.youtube.com/@ZoroZakiChAstel is popping off, his clippers videos are blowing upGamma seems to have attracted an audience who watch him not only for RustRoberu is Roberu so he is still doing goodI think HoloJP might incline for the better
>>47962579go post this on Reddit, then.
>>47962784Skimmed your long form post and, yeah, you're rightThat "off collab" arc was off putting as fuck and, WORSE, the Myth girls pretty much took a full month off to make that happenThey opted out of playing Holocure BEFORE anyone else for that and when they came back, they half assed itA FUCKING GAME 100% DONE AS A HOMAGE TO THEM and they half assed iit!
>>47963247SEAmonkeys did
>>47963270koreans have brown hair so yeah
>>47962571Come home
>>47963247>burgers watching nijiAre you retarded? If Niji had burgers, they wouldn't need china.
>>47961318Cover is going to cure Vesper's vampirism
>>47962784>Neh, the tipping recline point for HoloEN was the first Myth offcollab arcfirst collabs, ftfy Go check the debut collabs now without 2020 rose tinted glasses and you can see clearly that those girls has no chemistry, social skills, tard wrangler etc. People back in 2020 were like WOOOO THIS IS CRINGE KINO but the reality is that the whole generation was doomed from the start.
>>47963321Yet the board is basically dead during burger hours
>>47963316Can't wait for next year when they add the bois to it.
>>47963344also mori never preparing and even actively sabotaging collabs didnt help
>>47961115>I thought 200-300 ccv was normal when we had the iphone bug.Okay, I must have misunderstood something because 200-300 CCV is definitely not normal for HoloEN member streams. I remember seeing 1k-2k or occasionally higher, not few hundreds.With that said, that pool's numbers don't seem too weird
>>47963344I made the mistake in re-watching that stream where Gura was trying to make a rocket and people started joining and even that was pretty fucking...off, to put it kindly. I feel like Council really kind of hammered it in that something was off about Myth too
>>47963392Burgers not being here and burgers being nijiniggers are two very different things. Besides it's not burger hours for another 3 hrs. Also it's the weekend so most burgers are out fucking their sisters or something.
what's the streaming hour requirements for twitch partners nowadays
>>47962784Wow a new fag pretending he knows what’s going on but you overplayed your hand. Kaela increased because she collabed with gura no other reason and there was almost no dead hours during summer. Myth offcollab that was ame/gura karaoke and the ina/gura/kiara poptart review has them bouncing off each other really well. The problem was the big collab was supposed to be the end of mythbreakers but again canceled by mori so it had to be arm wrestling. Odd one out only seemed like mori at worst. Before her graduation announcement you can check numbers they were already riding high. There was a suprise 3D for Gura, concert on track for Mori and then kiara revealed 3D for her birthday as well not to mention holocure and the start of rust. The homos teaser bringing the early realization that there won’t be a new gen for at least a few more months, going on a year now, and ending with Sana graduation was the tipping point. August and September caused the tower to topple.
>>47963399>Next yearYou mean in 3 months ?
>>47963444it's hard to ignore the awkwardness when you have the council girls as a direct comparison
>>47963392Fauna hasn’t even started yet, she is the 1st one to stream for burgers
>>47963444Really ? That stream is probably one of my favorite one until Mori joined. Ina and Gura had some good times during it, and the end was kino
>>47962946It's even more retarded than that. They tried to build a male vtuber market in NA, where almost no one was receptive to the idea AND they possibly did irreversible damage to their existing female vtuber market in that same region. All while doing nothing to impact their competitor's audience, the majority of which was in SEA and China the entire time. They rushed headfirst to expand a market they have NEVER had success in, in the WRONG region, and ended up ruining the existing market that was built there.In a few years, this is unironically going to be remembered as a blunder on par with Activ8's mishandling of upd8.
so did they finally tweet ina outfit stream?
>>47963444really? that "minecraft to the moon" stream was unironically peak myth moment, desu. nothing come close to this day. shit's actually kino.
>>47962261Posting desk setups has gotten popular since the pandemic.
>>47963452have sex with a mod
>>47963298Pretending to be angry about things that aren’t true is so weird. Ina was already on break, mori took the break to do notmori things everyone else was streaming. The original plan of the offcollab was just 2-3 people the others just decided to join and mori was supposed to finish mythbreakers. You ignored gura’s birthday and the duet karaoke as well
my semen demon college girlfriend
>>47963291proof that the successful future for homostars lies outside of Hololive productionleave the girls alone
>>47963564Where is Ina?
>>47961931she renames it on the regular to filter teakeks
>>47963430You know what it probably is, is I was remembering seeing 200-300 for a Kiara members watchalong. And the watchalong debuff is fucking huge, even in members.
>>47963291>Exposure worksWOOOOOWWWWWWWWWhat a revelation.Clipper's views actually halved now that Vsaikyo ended. Rust saga is way too hard to follow even through clips. Too many players.
Holoen fell off hard
>>47963668after it was over, yes
>>47963143>>47963208bot posts.
>>47963593I feel like this thread is overly attached to one side of things.Homos were a mistake and the constant presence didn't help anything, but anyone with any ounce of brain power would know that much of the issues fell on the girls, and not because the guys existed.Like, you claim homos did irreversible damage to the girls but fail to acknowledge that Gura and Ina pretty much ghosted the entire EN scene including their own members for like 2-3 months straight, and half the girls not streaming whatsoever and no one trying whatsoever to bring excitement to the branch. Like dude, you are out of your fucking mind if you think the fags had ANYTHING to do with HoloEN's failure in December. That month sported /three/ girls streaming because all of Myth decided to either take time off streaming or that they were burnt out. And then you had half of council also sick or flat out refusing to stream (Kronii)The reality is that the girls inability to supply anything to their own branch along with no EN3 announcement cut deep into the flesh of holoEN, and Myth didn't help anything when the Japan arc happened because ONCE AGAIN, 3/5 of them REFUSED to stream whatsoever or do a single thing. That's not sustainable, and THAT causes harm to a branch. Not fagboys existing
>>47963769Every college girl rides in the cock carousel. Therefore, she's a whore.
>>47963668They retweeted the thanks for watching tweet. Hours after it was over.
>>47963800Legends says she is still going on tangent while showing outfit prediction
it's rough man...
>>47963845Tfw they technically streamed more but I remember the Council off collabs more than the Myth ones
>>47963838The funny thing is Yagoo started tweeting it, then suddenly they started doing it.
>>47962219EN3 this July.
>>47963291Astel has been going through a series of buffs starting with the jubutsu memes shortly before Vsaikyo, followed by the actual Vsaikyo arc where he always does well, and now Rust where he's been doing great too. Obviously it's all ultimately due to specific limited time buffs but there's no way he hasn't inclined long term after a solid 2 months of buffed numbers, and he seems pretty serious about making the most out of his recent incline too which is great. If he manages not to succumb to his autism too hard once Rust is over he can become a second Roberu which would be great for the homos. Gamma is weird though, people liked him in Vsaikyo since he vibed well with his teammates and his paripi shtick unironically helped keep the team's spirits up and they ended up getting 3rd place, and he's been doing insanely well in Rust for some reason but there was a random Q Remastered stream after the Vsaikyo buff but before he got into Rust that seemed to go right back to the usual 3view homo numbers. I don't know how much of this incline he'll manage to retain after Rust but hopefully he can grow as well since he seems like an alright guy with a good attitude.
>>47963668they tweeted about it 2days before and then afterwards, they also changed the banner. no tweet before the stream though
>>4796384510 members for a 2.5yrs old branch that have to cover several primetimes, but the fault's isn't of the faggots that got debuted instead of more girls. >B-but ID9 talents for 1 primetime that live in walking distance, opinion discarded.
>>47963901qrd? Ain't gonna watch a homo, especially a clip of it
>>47963444That's why I don't understand why they won't hire more girls.So what if the initial gen is socially retarded? At least Gura improved by collabing with Council. You only need a few likeable girls and the rest will learn from interacting with them.
Hololive Hololive Hololive. All this thread ever talks about is hololive and I'm sick of it. Why aren't we having meaningful discussions about the popular India Vtubers like fillian? Or the underappreciated and underrepresented Vtubers like Flayon×Machina??? Why no Vshojo discussions or nijiEN mentions? It's all so tiring. I'm so tired of these hololive circle jerks.
>>47963845All of what you described would have been avoided if Cover debuted EN3 instead of the homos, so yes, they are the root fo the problem
>>47963933EN3 is not planned yet, so even if they start the hiring process it won't be ready until next year.
>>47963344Why would you check debut are you stupid? Are you going to say holox has no chemistry then? The council debut collab also wasn’t that much better. They knew each other for a month you expect them to be best friends? Ame/Gura collabs used to be fun Ame/Ina/Gura the rare Gura/Ina and I didn’t watch them but Mori/kiara were said to be good. Their april fools collab, the dancing collab and the ina/kiara/gura offcollab was fun to what are you talking about. Myth’s first anniversary was way better than council. Council is a better unity gen but when myth actually has plans and aren’t just making it up last minute it goes pretty well
>>47963832>Rust saga is way too hard to follow even through clips. Too many players.The fun parts on the homo side aren't that complicated honestly, there are just barely any EN homo clippers. Astel is lucky he seems to have one dedicated EN clipper who's been clipping his highlights but there were so many hilarious moments today that might not get clipped because the EN scene is a fucking wasteland. The 9/11 birthday party, the holopro jobber's clan, Roberu's love letter gacha arc, none of those are clipped yet AFAIK and it's been a bunch of hours already.
>>47964003because this guy has a very punchable face
>>47963901give us the juicy summary, anon
>>47963344there was probably too much unity pressure on them, really.
>>47962499Retard
>>47964062>The 9/11 birthday party, the holopro jobber's clan, Roberu's love letter gacha arcnone of them had Astel, hence no clippers.... I am surprised why Axel clippers are not clipping him
>>47964079>>47963964He doesn't actually talk about how it was rough in the beginning but that his life sucked before and that just because he's in this opportunity doesn't meant it's easy but that he'll just still work through it.
>>47963344Of course, keep in mind that early Myth was how 90% of the western fanbase got into Vtubers. They didn't have any frame of reference outside of a few HoloJP viral clips and the novalty factor plus hype train made things appear way better than they actually are. Which is why there are some Myth fans unironically blaming Council for ruining HoloEN and their supposed chemistry. And said fans don't want EN3 because they think it will make things even worse somehow.>>47963499Check out the graphs and numbers if you don't believe me. Kaela started to incline before the Gura collabs, I clearly remember people in /hlgg/ discovering and discussing her during the Myth offcollab arc.>Myth offcollab that was ame/gura karaoke and the ina/gura/kiara poptart review has them bouncing off each other really wellyes but it also had tons of dead hour with Myth doing a stream every other day at best. Fans wanted way more than that, they wanted constant updates and at least a couple streams per day. On top of that the girls split up and started doing their own thing pretty early into it.
>>47963845I've been saying for months that HoloEN has been declining way before Tempus debut, but was masked by buff content, events, and mostly, Gura and Ina streaming semi consistently. Just going through their vstats months shows why some periods were still buffed in early 2022.Some girls fell more than others after Tempus debut, or you could even say, after Sana's graduation. But people here like to pin absolutely everything on Tempus and management pushing them, when there were a lot of factors, as you said.Even though, we had no issue seeing the NijiEN decline since mid spring, with their numbers only being held up by forced buff content.They had their own collaps points from wave 6 and B2 audience leaving, but at least no one is scapegoating their decline on just 1 wave.
>>47963901Kek, these are the homo audience that Mori and Ame share with them
>>47963964these homobeggers are legit delusional
>>47964198They are more approachable because they HAVE to be otherwise they'll stew in their filth like they have for the past few months
>>47964198>>47964196MOOOOOOOOOOOOOT
>>47964176>Kaela started to incline before the Gura collabsShe got a Miko and a Flare arc before Gura too back then
Let's ask the question for the 1000th timesWill EN3 fix HoloEN?
Wow there sure are a lot of LARPing faggots here
>>47963901They're saying that their start was hard af, also when he debuted in Holostars, a friend of hismade fun of him
>>47963845See, everyone initially thought the fagboys would be fine. They can exist in their corner and not interfere with anything. But then it became apparent that we just don't get any new girl gens at all due to the fagboys. Not only that, but three of the girls go menhera against their own fanbase over wanting to collab with males. All due to the mentality that "we must support the boiz with everything we've got, all our eggs are in this basket."
>>47962748no, peak Marine was late 2020/2021.
>>47964033Uh anon the root of the problem is Cover, not the homos. Cover is the one who debuted them
>>47964181>EN has no critical mass of content and was long overdue for a new gen, instead they got a batch of faggots, twice.no need to tip-toe around the issue
>>47964196What the fuck is Owozu?
>>47963845>Yes I like cock but that’s not the point blame the girls because they missed December ignore the other months though.Take it to a publisher maybe they’ll care that you’re gay
>>47964255Yes. Next question.
>>47964255nofiring tempiss will thoughthey're a drain on resourcesina didnt even get merch with her outfit but the homos got entire sets
>>47964149Astel was in the crash so that one might get clipped, and I'm sure Oboretai will clip some stuff from the mixed gender Holopro raiding group but yea it's kinda nuts how shit the Rust clipping has been. I don't really know if tempiss have dedicated clippers but if they do why aren't they milking Axel Rust clips? Can't believe the homos are such a fucking numbers poison that even their clippers are shit, Axel went on a raid with the Kaguya-sama author and there isn't at least one click bait clip about that?
>>47964079>>47963964Just a general sentiment in response to a sc messages not really relaetd to holstars but rather he saying holostar put him in a better situation but things in life can still be rough as it is not a golden ticket on itself.ttitle is more a clickbait in that regard
>>47964303When?
>>47964196Why does it always come back to shitting on the girls with these "people"
>>47964259ofcourse, if you know his RM it was a bizzare decision from him to decide to be a vtuber and especially to be a idol vtuber
>>47963901>51s>>47964167If it's about personal stuff, i vaguely remember sisters posting about how he has a lot of family problems, so those wouldn't get fixed by gaining a bunch of money, but increased probably.See Risu.
>>47964196Homobeggars can't take about their fags without dragging the girls.
>>47963832>>47964062>>47964149We get it you like cocks go discuss it your own globo
>>47964196Yeah, homostar fans are massive antis to the girls, always making passive aggressive comments or outright doxxing them to try to shit on them.
>>47964341>i vaguely remember sisters posting about how he has a lot of family problemsDoes he? I think he just has Asian parents lol, they aren't happy about him quitting med school to become a youtube funny man so he isn't on great terms with them but that's it
>>47964196Do they shit on the girls because they're jealous?
>>47964382poor anon, are you afraid of the 5 letter word *stars*??
>>47964318IT'S TODAY IN LESS THAN5 HOURS
>>47964033>insteadthat wasn't gonna happen.
>>47964382>Rust brings numbers>people discuss vtubers in Rust, Holos and La+ doing most interesting things>anon complains about cocks.You might need to finally suck some dick anon, because it's always on your mind.
>>47964196> cant praise Da Boiz without shitting on the girlsVery reminiscent of a certain filthy fanbase....
>>47964333They hate women more than the incels they whine about.
>>47964341HOW IN THE WORLD DID THAT PIVOT INTO SHITTING ON THE GIRLS WTF?????? Compare them to other boys, the big ones in nijien fucking faggots
>>47963845>Gura and Ina pretty much ghosted the entire EN scene including their own members for like 2-3 months straight, and half the girls not streaming whatsoever and no one trying whatsoever to bring excitement to the branch>That month sported /three/ girls streaming because all of Myth decided to either take time off streaming or that they were burnt out. And then you had half of council also sick or flat out refusing to stream (Kronii)You place the majority of the blame on the girls for this but don't even question why this change in behavior happened in the first place. They spent an entire year and a half doing these things happily with no issues and then suddenly Q2 2022 rolls around and everything falls apart.Do you think things like this just happen in isolation and aren't influenced by external factors like: more restrictions, change in direction for corporate goals, inadequate support, red tape, lack of incentives to produce content, and disproportionate amounts of resources being directed towards people who divided your fanbase and create a hostile work environment?Because they don't. Sure, it wasn't 100% the homos themselves that caused this, but they were symptoms of the issue that made it worse. It was definitely 100% management and Cover HQ's business plan that was responsible and the worst part is that even after everything that happened the past year, they show no signs of improvement in this regard.
>>47957188less ritualposting, more merch buying cluck
>>47963845>Homos were a mistake and the constant presence didn't help anything>know that much of the issues fell on the girls,Management fucked up not debuting EN3 in the summer or even spring of 2022.The girl's managers and to a lesser extent the talents themselves fucked it up by antagonizing their fans and giving a space for culture war grievances from western politics to fracture the fandom.And finally, the girls wholly royally fucked it by cutting the stream output.It wasn't one single event, but the tempus debuts were basically Gavrilo Princip.
>>47964479Anon...I...You need to stop for your own sake...
>>47962571>also RM posted for the 1st time since debuteWhy do people keep using this as something relevant when NOTHING became of it? I don't get it
>>47964196C'mon, that's just lame.>>47964517Yeah, I remember how annoying it was to read comments on any mid 2020 Niji EN clip.
>>47964196and fauna*
>>47964033if that's the case, you should blame Yagoo and management. can't have the saviorfag without the homos.
>>47964541This, I can understand nijien girls' fans being jealous but wtf? Nijien boys were also cruising because they were the first movers for males
>>47964461If Holostars climbs above Hololive in popularity, they will be even more ruthless against the girls.
>>47964196bunch of not really veiled misogynists that have the strong belief about how girls should burn down their communities build over the years to prop up the boys just because they exists o they deserve to eat from the same plate.Why the actual fuck the "incels" are the ones that want to strongly defend woman spaces in a male dominated medium.
>start late >5 minute recovery time>start on time>5 minute recovery time>be nijiEN>instant recovery timeYeah thanks Youtube
>>47964196This right here is why the homos were a mistake. Not so much for the homos themselves, but because their fans are literal hololive antis that will do anything they can to shit on the girls unless they side with their boys.
>>47964565>They spent an entire year and a half doing these things happily with no issues and then suddenly Q2 2022 rolls around and everything falls apartThis is literally not true lol
>>47964541?Think you wanted to reply to>>47964196And, with just 1 vote, looks like the Homo fans agree.
>>47964517they learnt from their master oboretai
>>47964198why they write like retards?
>>47964533Because they’re probably incels themselves. Don’t let them gaslight you into thinking they’re sjws or women.
>>47964176No you can actually look through her streams on vstats her first notable incline was minecraft quartz grinding for gura one of them even started trending during the 8 hour stream. Culminated in there collab which is the last time gura almost reached 30k in a 2 man collab. Big increase the following month that ended didn’t hold but left her doing so much better then before. This is July by the way
>>47964693if you post a retarded stance, people will react to it.
>>47964705I'm saying how a negative personal experience of Magni elicited these trannies to shit on the girls when they aren't even mentioned nor the cause
>>47964774because, they, are, esl, seafags
>>47964774Because theyre most likely SEA. Probbably a filthy Flip
>>47964479Anon, it's 11 hours and it's just a new cover getting released, not Cover debuting a new branch: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2J0_dcHLwo
>>47964690The fact youtube hates viewers who make an account and interact with the stream will never not be mind-boggling.
Fauna for the love of god marathon this game and be over with it, holy debuff.
>>47964565Cool so you’re in agreement that homos were only a section of what became a problem and that there were an overwhelming amount of factors outside of them that came from management and the girls themselves that contributed to the declineNow can we be done talking about the faggots here? Because every time you people obsess over them the thread derails into a 1000 post jerkfest about men
fucking hell, every single fucking day around this time. stop talking about tempiss. you fuckers talk about them more than the homo threads. seething here won't do anything. all you want is validation in the forms of (you) like this is upvotes on reddit.
Will these homofans cause a stink if EN3 girls don't collab with da bois?
>>47963845Yes, HoloEN has obvious issues. But at least fans could hope for things to get better. Tempiss was the final nail in the coffin as they proved that things were actually getting way fucking worse.I can hold with few streams and the general feeling of burnout going in HoloEN, if you also add obnoxious faggots into the mix and SEAsters trying to turn HoloEN into NijiEN then I'm out.
>>47964690just watch with phone unsigned, those are trusted viewers ;)
>>47964509Not a single person i included there said anything about holos faggot.
>>47964533>>47964679it's just a reaction to your self-hate.
>>47964885they will either way
>>47964198>for some reason they are more approachableyeah for the same reason I'm more approachable than Brad Pitt you fucking retard why does everyone outside of /vt/ never ever discuss the topic of numbers and clout.
>>47964885They will 100% all get homobeggar SCs as soon as monetization opens up.
>>47964857I would prefer she realize she doesn't enjoy the game and just drops it like she did Kirby.
>>47964255Before yes now no. Unless en3 is 5 diet gura, fauna, mumei, ina, and irys
>>47964196I...what's the last homobegger even implying? That holo girls don't have integrity cause their numbers aren't shit?
>>47965004cause they like to live inside a comfort bubble and dont look outside
>>47962748Sounds like you’re blaming coco. That makes you a chink if you agree with her cucks
>>47965077homobeggers literally hate the girls and pretend to watch them when they're forcing their homos
>>47964679she's not gonna fuck you, bro.
With this last post I'l dedicate this thread to the best EN>Fauna, my loveSeethe next thread!
Why are we still talking about EN3 as if it's going to be a thing?
Here is the real last post, but it is the same as >>47965145
>>47964311Hell Obofag is only just getting around to clipping rust moments from 2 days ago, he's slow.
Fauna is mid.
God Fauna is so fucking cute bros~
>>47965145dont forget to buy her merch its the last day