/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

He made enough money from clickbait advenue/built up a dedicated fan base to be happy for now, because now he's essentially set for life. This leech is sorry for nothing.

>>4794979
Reality of clipfags, hope Amelia trays true and inspires cover to get a banwave going on

>>4794979
Do people really mad about this? Or the talent pointed it out herself?

>>4795176
Do you even watch their streams?

>>4795221
No I only watch clips

>>4795221
>4chan user
>watching streams
rrat

>>4795139
Ame could always pull a Luna and strike the clippers lul.

>>4795313
Even some clips gives you some valid explanations

>>4794979
I missed this, what happened now.

>>4795387
tl;dr clickbaiting clipper got banned from guras channel, throws a shitfit about it on twitter to the point where her manager had to get involved

Really cheapens their friendship if everyone keeps forcing them to be intimate fuckbuddies or something.

>>4795387
Some of the girls requested on their streams to make the videos "less clickbait-y" because it sometimes cause misunderstandings and things like that

>>4795474
Didnt clipnigger claim he was being impersonated?

>>4794979
Seeing this motherfucker's checkmark in chat makes me sick.

>>4795577
I thinks that's a different one

>>4795515
Nothing wrong with that, causes drama which i like and the clippers gets more views, which in turn causes more drama. Good vibes all around.

>>4795634
Gura needs her own AO-chan. Just get some autistic intern at cover, one who hates ecelebs so much, give him the duty of camping Gura's chat and superchats, and ban any faggots alluding to her dox/acting creepy/being a faggot eceleb

>>4795784
They won't hire you bro

>get publicly put on notice that if clipniggers don't stop making shitty videos for ad revenue cover will hire real editors and shut them down
>double down
the eternal leeches

>>4794979
reading the thread wow, this guy is a fag. Whyd he get banned tho?

>>4794979
Clipfaggots need to fucking die. They leech of and profit doing clickbait and they don't even edit the fucking video, they upload them as it is, not even a translation and then they have the audacity of saying that they did nothing wrong. I hope Amelia puts to rest the fucking faggots with her future subcontracted clipper and the rest of the girls follow her with the trend

>HoloJP clippers constantly receives thanks from JP girls
>HoloEN clippers had to be banned and receive a warning because of how shitty the community is

Will HoloEN kill clippers too?

>>4795784
AO-chan didn't do shit. Even the past two times chinks spammed up her chat Ina had to do something since AO is useless.

>>4795950
I hope for chaos. I'm starting to see the signs of what everyone feared EN was going to become.

>>4795950
Being a JP clipper has the filter of needing to actually be bilingual, aka being dedicated enough to learn another language

EN clippers are literal children, trannies, and other attentionwhores who need to do basically no work.

>>4795940
Blame the retards who give them views. They're just as responsible as the clipniggers themselves.

>>4795784
Ok you protect Gura from the clippers/ weirdos/doxfags but who protects gura from you, you creepy fuck.

>>4795950
>HoloJP clippers constantly receives thanks from JP girls
You don't even watch the clips of multiple JP girls worrying about being misunderstood because of fucking JP clipers

>>4794979
Leeches can't even see when they are doing harm with their ads ridden clickbait shit to vtubers until it bites them in the ass and would continue to do so if managers wouldn't step in. Fuck them all

>>4795950
>>HoloJP clippers constantly receives thanks from JP girls
This is completely false.

>>4795989
Thats cause AO-chan was busy getting fucked during those times. Women arent good chat mods, you need an autistic NEET male to handle such a job.

>>4795577
That tengoku. He's not related to any of this

>>4796064
That's why you hire two, the thought of confrontation with another man will keep them both cucked

>>4796164
So dloow was just being an entitled faggot then?

>>4795515
Then how should the clipper get views? No one is asking this of journalists and newspapers

>>4796164
Tengoku seems chill
>>4796080
one example of a girl complaining about malicious clippers in particular, not just all clippers

>>4795950
Clipfag-kun...

>>4796080
Isn't she a lesbian? What does she care about her reputation when everyone already knowns she is doing weird shit in her own time.

>>4795940
Fuck off. I can't watch length VODs and streams are out of my timezones so clipbros are my main source of getting the best moments of the streams. Hololive would be nothing without Chinese clippers anyway so they have to be thankful.

>>4795940
If it wasn't for Clippers Gura wouldn't even exist. Hololive got famous off clippers. Looo at the clips views vs full stream views.

>>4796080
No wonder she's at the bottom of third gen lol

>>4796309
Thats just acting, anon.

>>4796248
>one example
Pretty much all of them despise JP clippers. They dont give a fuck about the EN ones since they dont even speak english nor would they ever see them in the first place.

>>4796374
Isn't she one of the few actual lesbians. Her and some other girl, anyway i can't remember right now.

>>4796445
Noel and Flare literally share the same manager it's all a meme to keep /u/fags invested

>>4796362
Based clipperCHAD! You guys should demand the Gura to kneel to you instead, since you guys MADE her famous

>>4796403
Who cares what they want, they would nothing without clippers. Miko especially who would quite literary be a bottom of barrel holo if her clips haven't gone viral.

>>4796403

Subaru explicitely addressed EN clippers, think that was either Tengoku (that dropped his stupid hentai intro) or Ossekai, but it was in good fun since it was about how they subbed her laugh as *duck noises*.

So they are very aware of EN clippers that translate their clips.

>>4796500
He's not wrong, without clippers there Hololive wouldn't have gone viral last year, without that growth there would have been no EN. I started watching Hololive because of some Korone clip i saw, i didn't even know what Hololive or vtubers were at the time besides knowing Kizuna AI.

>>4796228
They are not entitled to jack shit, they play by the rules or get purged, the only reason they were allowed is because they provide more value than they take away but currently they need hololive but hololive dont need them

>>4796248
Tengoku deleted one of his videos when an autistic fandead took screenshots of his video, put them out of context and uploaded them to reddit and started mini-drama about calling the members flat.

>>4796228
they aren't saying "not clickbaity" but "less clickbaity", what they are requesting is toning it down so it wont cause a misunderstanding.

>>4796403
Miko REALLY shouldn't complain about clippers, since her whole career exist thanks to them.

>>4796590
>clippers should be allowed to clickbait because "they made them famous"
This cope of delusion

>>4796510
Go fuck yourself, you fucking faggot. You and your shitty bait will not change the opinion of people about shit clippers who use clickbait and do mistranslations for the purpose of profit

>>4796403
Any vtuber that has a problem with clickbait clips is retarded. It's the only reason vtubers get any attention other than being associated with hololive after they got popular from clickbait clips.

>>4796654
the same could be said for the fucking clippers, retard

>>4796654

That doesn't give them the right of making shit up, nobody cares about this shithole to be up in arms about it, but they do care about people stirring shit on places that normal people actually see, like Twitter and YouTube.

Like, they have been telling people to not make shit up since at least when Pekora took a break and Marine told everybody to stop spreading bullshit rumors about it.

>>4796314
You need to fucking kill yourself. You say this shit because nobody mistranslated your fucking oshi, faggot

>>4796712
so? They are not entitled to anything, if anything that made them more replaceable, follow the social contract you have with Cover or get striked, its easy

>>4795784
gura already has a schizo who watches over her

>its another ESL clipper thread
The sooner SEA is IP nuked from /vt/ the better

>>4796769
Dude, Miko would quite literary be begging for c list vtuber for collabs before her NIGGA moment went viral. She was a low tier Holo, she was on her way to graduation and look at her now. All thanks to clippers.

>>4796590
There's a difference between the translator channels that clip and translate hololive streams to help kickstart popularity in the west, VS low effort clippers, channels that just take that snippet from a stream, slap a clickbait thumbnail on it, and call it a day. I have more respect for translators than clippers, they are two different groups at this point and its thanks to translators helping pave the way for vtuber popularity, is when clippers can flourish.

>>4796853
Go fucking die, that doesn't justify the clickbaits, fucking idiot. Hang yourself

>people dont understand the difference between translating long bits and short, small clips out of context

>>4796080
Post some of these JP clippers. I want to see how bad they are compared to EN

>>4796795
When Gura ends up murdered, we'll know why

Guys, they literally just asking on toning down the clickbait because it causes misunderstandings.

>>4796853
She's not telling them to not clip. She's telling them to be less clickbaity. No one has to clickbait her clips since they are so wild in the first place. Also those initial clippers are different from the clippers now that exist just to profit off of them and do bare minimum in terms of edits or even translations for these clips.

>>4796228

They don’t, they can go fuck themselves. There’s a handful of high-quality ones that naturally get views. The rest don’t deserve anything.

>>4796919
Her fucking nigga moment was a clickbait in itself retard.

>>4796314
>clipbros
The state of this fucking place, holy shit

>>4796978
Will we?

>>4797023
it's a containment board, what did you expect?

This entire thread is an example of how horrible your guys gatekeeping is

>>4796500
Which reminds me, that dloow faggot was seen superchatting Gura sometimes, telling her that maybe she should take a break from streaming, why? Because it means more work on his end to clip her streams. What a piece of shit, imagine thinking you have power over a vtuber because you clip her shit, if you arent willing to do something so easy (no translations needed! Just clip and upload!) a hundred other clippers will just take over where you left off. Cover really needs to update whatever terms/guidelines they have for unofficial clip channels, a lot of them are getting uppity.

>>4797044
.... WTF is that?

>>4796919
Would she copystrike the nigga clip because it could be "misinterpreted" and make her look like a racist?

>>4796228
by actually providing something like a translation or more editing than cutting a 30 second clip out of a stream and doing a couple zoom pans

>>4796795
so this is the power of pedos...

>>4797044
holy shit, what is wrong with these people

>>4797044
Holy shit. I was joking but that genuinely makes me uncomfortable

>>4797044
I refuse to believe people like this are real

>>4797145
>>4797012
That video was not clickbait. She says exactly what the video title says. And she doesn't copystrike anyone but if she is complaining about that is because there are worse clips out there

>>4797044
>I am yours Amelia+Gura.
>Hello, Kiara!
this guy is a fucking creep but that one cracked me up

Here in brazil streamers let you monetize clips and even make a patreon or some shit you just need to follow the rules:
No clickbait
No malicious title or drama bait
Wait until the end of stream
Put the original channel on the description

Is this that hard to do? Clips help the streamer as well and believe me if you have a big clip channel you can make money

>>4794979
I really don't care if this upsets the Holos, even the ones I like.

>>4796654
She's complaining about the selfish ones. Her whole career exists thanks to the 35ps, not the bandwagons.

>>4796637
Perhaps the nigger shouldn't be translating laughs as cutting board noises

>>4797482
Pretty sure all streamers and chuubas have those rules. Doesn't mean people will follow it.

>>4797155
lmao good luck translating when only 100 ppl or less will view it.

>>4797482
>No malicious title or drama bait
Fuck that shit dude lol cropped porn in the thumbnail!

>>4796637
oh yeah i remember that, a whole shitshow for no reason lmao what a sperg
redditors arent ready for rratposts
>>4796403
>despise
you're legitimately autistic if you suck this bad at reading comprehension and understanding phrasing

>>4797589
Perhaps you and many others shouldn't be such sensitive faggots.

>be a public figure
>people repost you in a light that's slightly more interesting than your initial actions
woooooooooooow how were they supposed to know that would happen?

>>4797044
One-sided love is hell of a drug

>>4797044
Who the fuck is this fucker?

Translators good, clipfags trash. That's all there is to it.

>>4797778
It's not unreasonable for them to ask people to tone it down. They aren't going around nuking channels and just took like 2 minutes to address the issue on stream. Are you some of those clippers that feel called out?

>>4797778
>more interesting
Whom exactly are you trying to fool here? You cant clickbait 4chan posts

>>4797882
Either he got tired or got the banhammer

>>4797894
Well the Holos themselves actually haven't said anything wrong as far as I know. The fans here on /vt/ have an unreasonable hatred for clips that have helped build the entire company. No matter what, if you're in the entertainment business you're going to get clipped and quoted put of context.
>>4797914
Generally they are. Maybe not to you or I, but having short digestible clips with eye catching art and titles that tell you what you're getting is usually more interesting than watching a portion of a 5-8 hour long stream where there could be a lot of downtime. That's why they get so many views.

>>4798116
>clips that helped build the community
>"gawr gura and amelia kissed in minecraft?!?!?!?!?!!"
>"polka gets yelled at by flare for ruining her build!!!!!!"
fuck you

>>4798116
>Unreasonable hatred
>Unreasonable
Stop reducing vtubers to one dimensional caricatures

>>4797888
Translators actually put work into what they do.

>>4794979
All clipmakers with lewd pics on preview are full of shit. Remember that there is some strange content for kids on youtube where they put on preview some kind of gross stuff like blood or syringes, or something like pee-pee poo-poo jokes so kids more likely to click on them? Vtuber short videos became something like that but for anime coomer audience.

>>4796080
now if only we could get Flare to say the same thing about OPs on this board

>>4798174
anon, those aren't the only clips out there, there are also good ones

>>4798307
1 bad clip offsets a dozen good ones

>>4798229
Doesn't affect you.

>>4798116
Highlight reels and clickbait clips are not the same, anon.

>>4798116
>Tell you what you're getting
Except the whole problem with the kinds of channels that are being called out is the level of absurd click-baiting. You're not being told what's there.

>>4798307
I wonder which clips they're referencing when they say "stop doing clickbait and putting false narratives into clips"
hmmmmm

>>4798116
You are a leech, if your channel were purged nobody would care and someone else would take your niche before the end of the week

>>4798229
I think he meant people here by that, not the Vtubers

>>4798116
low effort clips are the reason holos have to endure the neverending spam of the same 3 jokes every stream for months on end before a new joke is cycled in. I'm sure the dreadful 3 minutes they sacrificed cutting out suisei saying "hi honey" and uploading it before the stream even ended really makes them pillars of the hololive fanbase

>>4798452
damn I forgot the eekum bokum spam in korone's chat after that clip
it really is just constant

>>4798384
>you are a leech
I wish. I'm too lazy to make low effort clips for extra money.

I don't really understand why these clippers are all spineless faggots. No other begs people not to make clickbait clips because they know no matter what they say it'll still happen. If these dumb clipfags really want to complain about not being able to get views or money from their work then they should ignore the requests to stop clickbaiting and continue doing it

>>4795950
Both Flare and Miko have called out clippers recently for clipping stuff out of context. Considering their proficiency in english it wasn't english clippers theybwere talking about, lol.

>>4794979
The only clippers il respect is the ones who translate entire multi hour series in their entirety, I dont watch them but I respect the hustle

>>4798452
and Robert Downey Jr. still has people quoting iron man when they see him. That's just what happens dude. Stuff gets popular, people show up and mention it. Not even necessarily the same people either. New people every day show up and say that shit. From their perspective they're being funny, to the Holo it drives them insane because every says the same shit. You can ask people to use their brains before they spam but that's not going to happen either.

>>4798518
most of these clipfag channels aren't monetized and exist because the person wants to get their oshi's attention and a shoutout of "so I was watching this clip of X" on the stream
the whole point is getting their oshi to watch a video they uploaded

>>4795950
>constantly receives thanks

What a dumbass Flare literally hates them she talked about it twice now. Believe or not your precious Nippon does clickbait too.

>>4797044
Remember when Klausposting was the peak of Gura's stalkers?

>>4796739
But the clippers aren’t complaining.

>>4796445
why are all retards that care about "lesbians" on youtube so desperate to confirm if people are lesbians lol vtubers and ASMR have the most cringe people that do this BTW
News flash real lesbians IRL are all just bi whores who gladly take cock when drunk

>>4798712
Yeah, retards made a huge deal about nothing when these faggots were the real threat

>>4798802
Punctuation, nigger

>>4794979
considering their new policy where they are willing to go to court for their talents he will be hit very hard, very soon with a strike

How well does being a clipfag pay, anyway?

>>4798959
it pays nothing if you're in a 1st world country, if you try to monetize your shit you get smacked with DMCA takedowns

Both gura and ame knew exactly what they were doing with this yuribaiting shit.

>>4798802
>vtubers and ASMR have the most cringe people that do this
I'd imagine a fair amount of those are the same people.

>>4799031
this I don't get why people try to downplay it when the biggest ship teasers are themselves

>>4799031
No it was just taken out of context.

>>4798683
No wonder a bunch of clipfags jump on the trend of "if x vtuber comments I will x this video". Holy fuck that just pathethic

>>4798959
not sure what the current rates for adds are but enough to make a living as a poorfag, their views + subs used to be enough for most successful creators before the addpocalyse

I just recently started to "Train" Let's say, to become a clipper, and for the love of fuck I can't understand this entitled little shits.
YES, even a mediocre and short clip tales time, but you're supposed to do so to show people some fun highlights of the chuubas you like, instead this idiots use it as a way to gain attention.
Fuck em, the whole lot of em.

>>4799136
Never mind that stupid "(clipper) says " hAi HoNeY" Shit from a few weeks ago.

>>4799277
Decent arc Sodafunk was pretty cute

>>4799277
I know about the retarded hi honey but did they really upload themselves saying that phrase? Holy fuck what the hell

>>4798712
Did all of Klaus drawings cause any drama?

>>4799031
The only EN who yuribaits is Kiara though?
Gura keeps her hopelessly romantic obsession with Ame to her solo streams and doesn't let it affect their actual collabs so it doesn't count.

Meanwhile my oshi shows up with a friendly message for her clippers because she probably thinks being clipped is cool. Also clips herself sometimes l.

>>4798712
Back when SCs were memes like Klaus and Carl, idk where all the "my mom died love ur stream btw" and stalker trannies came from

money on my motherfuckin mind
cop 5 haircuts at the same time

>>4794979
Most clipfags project their shitty personas into their clips to gain more followers on their main accounts, no better than gimmick Twitter accounts.

Stick to just clipping and translating shit and don't insert your shitty intros, clickbait or extra commentary, faggots.

clippers are basado, they leech off your oshi for views, subscribers, and ad money, then become a tuber themselves

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDkJCp_hhAM

>>4795052
>he's essentially set for life
he is in NO way set for life, he's made a maximum of $100k
but likely much much lower that that.

>>4798599
this asshat got a point. when stuff gets real popular, you can expect a lot of stupid shit to come with it like the state of clipfags right nnow .

Imagine having to clickbait with porn crops and text of lies in the thumbnail and title

>>4795052
you drastically overestimate how much money youtube gives for ad impressions

>>4795940
Eh partly the algorithm/Youtube is to blame. Hololive does need/or needed in the past clippers to drive engagement and new viewers to their clips, they'd be much smaller and maybe not even solvent as a company if the short, digestible clips hadn't driven so many users to them. If you want an example of the power of the algorithm, just look at what happens to "big name" celebrity/political figures like Joe Rogan when they go off Youtube, and those are people with audiences exponentially bigger than any vtuber.

That being said I agree that no-translation clippers are the lowest of the low, and you can still get the same "value" out of translated clips in terms of algorithm. But I can definitely see the argument for english-only clippers for english talents where translation isn't needed, Hololive still wants that juicing of the trends.

>>4799380
yes, Sodafunk and a couple others are trying to take their channels with a 100k subs and convert them to vtuber channels themselves
at least a couple of them have shifted to debuting themselves

>>4799548
for a channel that's not in google preferred, and makes videos under 8 minutes he's probably not making more than $1000 per 1 million

>>4799582
I respect the hustle, if its all a play to turn your clipper channel into a vtuber channel and then use it for your hololive interview.

>>4799496
sure but the clipfags should keep each other in line, only one of them need to cross the line and piss off the wrong girl for all of them to suffer from a total shutdown

>>4799482
Absolutely based and burrito pilled

>>4799611
when I last looked it was something around 50 cents per 1k views so yeah if you have a million views on a video you can make about 1k from it but 1k is far from set for life, that's like a month's rent

>>4799690
>when I last looked
it's different on every channel and based on the audience demographics
on vtubers and clip channels it's going to be lower because of the high SEA audience and the short view duration

>>4799582
I unironically like the Spanish girl. I wish she'd actually just go all in, she's cute.

>>4799644
Yeah, but they collectively decided to intentionally ramp up the nigger behavior out of spite when they got called out so it's time for community policing

>>4799804
I assume she doesn't want to become WooHooLad, who usually has less than 30 viewers

>>4799851
Yeah but he's a faggot

>>4799470
Eh, intros are ok, helps identitify who did the clip, they just have to make it not annoying (Tengoku's ok but way too loud for example)

>>4799851
Dude model unironically better than a few indie I've seen on twitch. Shame hes a massive faggot

>>4799851
they're a retard then, no streamer starts out with high viewer count, it doesn't happen
>inb4 b-b-but this one vtuber debuted with 1000 viewers
yeah and you're a retard if you think that was their first stream and didn't stream on a different account to 10 viewers for a solid 6 months at least

>>4799482
Cursed model.

>>4799851
his balls are just so small that we cannot fit more views in there, he should have thought that through

>>4799804
Isn't being a clipper for a famous bunch of vtubers and then becoming a vtuber with that channel the upmost level of leeching?

>ame dmca’s all the clippers after hiring her own clipper
how will you cope, clipniggers?

>>4799482
On an unrelated note, would you look at who's right under there

>>4800148
They already leeched by uploading unedited clips, why not crank it up to the max

>>4800001
If I want to know who did the clip I can look 3 inches down the page, it's especially obnoxious when they put an OP or ED and the actual clip isn't even 2 minutes long

>>4800148
I guess but I don't care and neither do her subs. They're the ones who encouraged her to become one.

lol he changed the thumbnail

>>4794979
Unless the thread is a lie, he changed the thumbnail.

>>4800683
No surprise he lurks, or his discord cronies told him as they are actually here and have posted links to his clips in the global threads

hey dloow you fucking suck

>>4800151
I'll just watch her clips. Serves the same purpose for me.

>>4800750
Well that title is true.

>>4800151
By going to some other popular vtuber to milk

>>4799493
Man with smart investment this amount can give a nice and steady flow of income every month. If you just sit on it like on a toilet bowl then yeah it wont do much for you.

>>4800809
>steady income flow every month from 100k
jesus you guys are retards, glad I don't listen you 4chan fags about money

>>4800862
Go back to r*ddit then, reddit nigger.

>>4800862
Ok, go back to your hole of intellectuals.

>>4800759
He probably got scarred from the shitposts rattling and went for the safe out

>>4800683
>>4800750
https://twitter.com/dloowYT/status/1402368007695917061

>>4801001
based takeshi calling him out

>>4796367
still in the top 10 superchat earnings, stay fucking seething numberfag and touch grass

>>4801001
Basado el Takeshi

>>4800151
>implying she has clippers to begin with

>>4797044
Ger Loke? More like Get Locked fucking schizo.

>>4799373
He was cool when he clipped Pikamee and Hana. But Gura pays the bills and then some.

>>4801001
I fucking kneel

>>4801001
>just a kiss bro, nothing sexual
show your face if you're here dloow, this isn't over until you delete your channel

>>4799493
There is no way this fucking goober made a maximum of $100k

>>4794979
If he was really sorry, he would restart with a new persona.
>>4795052 has it right.

>>4795320
>Reddit tourist posing as a /vt/ resident
>Watching streams
There's your rrat redditfag.

>>4795950
The clipper wasn't banned dumbass. YouTube banned him from their end. Nothing confirmed from youtube's end but it was probably a result of people massively reporting the channel when he chatted in Gura's livestream after the "copycat supa" incident.

>>4801190
>he doesnt know about the koreans

>>4796063
Sounds like you're describing JOP clippers.

>>4796228
Flare just doesn't want clips that make them look like VShojo.

>>4801333
Kisses aren't inherently sexual, especially between members of the same sex

>>4798788
A fat copystrike gets them complaining dumbass. I've seen it happen multiple times and they're always like, "Why?" Hololive has every right to copystrike any clip they don't like because it is there's. I see Japan's copyright law subbed and slightly edited clips are not protected by fair use. In fact I don't even think fair use is a thing in Japan.

>>4801518
I'm not a gook why should I know about them

>>4799482
Aiko is cute!

>>4798712
That guy was around before Klaius posting was a thing

>>4801940
what happened to her hi honey video

>>4801602
kiss me bro, exactly 3 seconds, eyes open

>>4797044
I really dont see a difference between this and /hlgg/.

>>4802287
The difference is that Gura will never see any of the horny posting in /hlgg/

>>4794979
But thats not clickbait, its actually true isn't it?
Clickbait is when the thumbnail does not match the content at all. If the video matches the title and thumbnail its fine.

>>4801001
Based Twitter schizo

>>4801659
They aren't protected in the US laws either.

>>4801659
it's not fair use
fair use is showing a short clip and then adding something to it, some type of analysis or critique
clippers are just ripping literal clips with no context or addition of their own and reuploading

>>4802886
They can be depending on context of usage.
Like if antis used clips to make the girls look bad its fair use

>>4803223
retard

It is a nature of fandom to be spontaneous and uncontrolled. If you want a censored view of everything, go live in China. I will always prefer there to be more freedom, not less, especially when a hobby is as harmless as this.

>>4795857
heard he got impersonated by some antis in chat by spamming stuff.

>>4803280
It's true. If I took a bunch of clips of your oshi and put them into a video called "anons oshi is bad person" its fair use as its a critique of your oshi

>>4803223
Reuploading with subtitles does not constitute as fair use. You have to be transformative which something like commentary in a review/criticism way would be but just clipping it and adding subtitles would not be fair use.

>>4803298
Anon think of the corporate profits. We cant let a little freeze peach harm that

>>4796445
Flare is a carpet muncher, Kanata might be one too. Despite Noefure being a thing, Noel is likely straight and in love with her brother.

>>4794979
do kfps really

>>4795313
Dangerously based.

>>4796362
They got famous off translated clips you faggot and it's not at all the same as cutting a portion of the vod as is.

>>4803712

"Might".

Dude, Kanata is turbo gay, or at least bi. Even Matsuri just blatanly said it to her face.

>>4794979
who gives a shit lol

>>4803820
Explain why he's wrong

>>4800750
Thumbnail is much cuter now

>>4794979
>>4801001
No wonder he's on Gura's shitlist. Look at that faggot making bullshit excuses after getting called out.
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Never forget

>>4797044

>>4802287
/hlgg/ is the containment for this kind of posting. It shows that we have the restraint to not post that stuff in the comments or the supas. Being a schizo in /vt/ is ok. Being a shizo on their streams is not ok.

>>4795365
she will do it, you know she will do it

>>4795671
it definitely is him

>>4798851
it's an esl nigger

Clipfags are fucking cringe

I hate how my youtube recs will be like "Gura admits to multiple CRIMES" and then the actual video will be like "haha, yeah, I hate a grape at the store"

>>4806171
>hate a grape
Based racist Gura

>>4795940
Stob being a whiny bitch.
Clipping is the same as your chuubas playing licensed games. Both are making dimes from simply using other people's content, yet your chuuba is allowed to be a leech while people who contribute to her views generation isn't? What an insecure incel you fags are.

if seafags want to clip at least translate it to your native language

>>4803874
It's the honest truth none of us want to admit but are all guilty of.

>>4794979
>calls the clipper shit for making clickbait-y, NSFW thumbnails
>when this place is the same
The hypocrisy of chumcucks is pathetic

>>4795950
>HoloJP clippers constantly receives thanks from JP girls
You have clearly no idea what you're talking about

>>4803989
gender neutral, she is a hikki after all

>>4803989
We all know she's non-binary with lesbian leanings, anon.

>>4806515
doing it on youtube, where normies can see it is completely different from doing it in this uzbekistani carapet weaving forum.

>>4795474
It wasn't him though. It was a impersonator. There is proof. You may hate clipniggers but he was wrongfully banned and it got fixed.

>>4797696
who cares? you are doing it out of love for the chuuba and you want to see her grow

>>4806284
Cover gets permission from devs. They even have a list of approved games

>>4800809
the very best money managers in the world, get consistent returns of around 15%
that's $15l a year to live off of...

>>4801344
How much did they make then?
And I said maximum, real value is likely a lot lower

>>4807074
$15k

I will become Clipman, misconstrue and clickbait every holoEN, and sow chaos among them

>>4796795
chumbat retired when gura started doing sc readings

>>4801001
>intimate french kissing
>"in my mind it's just a kiss"
why are chumbuddies like this?

>>4804480
"This song reminds me of Ame."

>>4800862
the first thing you should have known is not to take anything on this site seriously

>>4796795
chumbat hasn't done shit

>>4806284
hi dloow

>>4808124
Wow I almost thought it was Holobass with how much that bitch was whining. Fuck you Clipper Parasites, I hope Ame destroys every last one of you.

read this if you want to create fan content
https://www.hololive.tv/terms
https://en.hololive.tv/panduan-karya-turunan
https://en.hololive.tv/terms

>>4805073
>HERfag
of course, a guy like him could behave like that

>>4807236
Stop generalizing. The first chumbud comment doesn't approve what he did prior to the change. Larger fanbase has more diversity.

of course is hard you dumb faggot, why do you think many people with big numbers leave their channels?

Yet another reason of EN being a mistake.

>>4808594
Must be really hard watching streams, and not adding anything to them at all. It’s almost as if that’s what we are all doing every single day for free. Clippers don’t contribute shit, they are the equivalent of watching a movie with someone who keeps saying “now watch this part” right before anything happens. Lowest form of entertainment and completely devoid of creativity. They profit off of the efforts of others and contribute absolutely nothing of value.

>>4800809
>>4800924
>>4800950
advice to poorfags, please don't fall for any of the scams on /biz/

>>4809013

They contribute to me not having to watch a 5 hour stream

>>4809551
If your problem is watching 5 hours streams, and because of that you watch shit clips that don't even edit anything and try to profit to the max the views they get, I hope you start watching Amelia's clipper when she starts uploading her highlights

>>4809551
you aren't supposed to watch the whole stream nigger, you're supposed to tune in and out when you have time
you are not supposed to watch every stream or every minute of the streams you tune into

>>4809654
Not him, but I am 100% on board with that idea. There's plenty of non-vtuber streamers that stream 10+ hours a day, but are smart enough to edit them down (or hire someone to edit them down) into 30-60 minute compilations of the best bits I can watch when I get off work. Some of them I've never even seen live, just because their schedules and mine conflict, same goes for a lot of JP holos. I'm really hoping the idea catches on with others.The fact that cover isn't doing this already for all of their talents is nothing short of negligence.

>Yes we can make blue jokes but you're not allowed to clip them!
Do vtubers really?

>>4801659
fucking this. i can't believe the sheer audacity of that HoloBass faggot to make like 5 videos crying endlessly that cover struck down his stuff on spotify that he openly acknowledged not getting permission to post.

>>4806284
this nigger to new to remember the holocaust

>>4810813
And you're too new to know that the Holocaust happned due to Cover's greenhorned incompetence.

Custom thumbnails are a mistake

>>4797044
Rule 1: Don't be a creep in public. Keep it among friends.
Rule 2: Streamers are for entertainment, not for sexual.
Rule 3: If a streamer acts like a whore, only then is it acceptable to treat her like one.

Normally this guy should get roped. But ethots do in fact sell sex. Realcam thots do hot tub bikini streams where most of their body is exposed and they're posing in a lewd manner. On the other hand, vtubers are emotional prostitutes that sell quasi-romantic long distance relationships to lonely men in exchange for money and favors. They may not be going full chaturbate, but this is the psychological equivalent of that sort of physical titilation.

As uncomfortable as this makes me, female streamers who get too personal when talking about themselves or who get too informal with their chat tend to bring this on themselves. You can't just walk buck naked into a men's gym, sit down to do reps with your legs wide open, and not expect there to be any takers. At a certain point an invitation is an invitation regardless of your protests. What you claim doean't matter. Actions speak louder than words. So when gura is sweet on her majority male chat and gives them attention that even their female friends (if they have any) don't, all gura does is manufacture her own creeps as a consequence of emotionally selling herself. This is why celebrities tend to have bodyguards and live in gated communities. It's because some fans will always take things too far. If you don't like it, either get out of the business or get protection. But I'm not obligated to misplace blame on the person whose money Gura is courting through glorified parasocial prostitution.

>>4811228
>And you're too new to know that the Holocaust happned due to Cover's greenhorned incompetence.
? are you retarded? this dosen't change that the holos aren't leeching because they have to get permissions from the companies either by paying , because the companies want them to or because of other deals

>>4809551
Except Ame has a dedicated stamper in almost all of her videos.

>>4797044
Got to be indian

>>4806284
Playing a game you legally bought and owned on stream is just broadcasting and monetizing your personal property. Intellectual property laws shouldn't apply to purchased goods as that's a violation of personal property rights. Reverse engineering and reselling/distributing your own versions for profit is where infringement actually starts, as you're directly competing with the original rightsholder using their own intellectual property. As streamers aren't selling the game's they play or even any sort of gameplay experience, there's no direct competition.

In contrast, pirate other people's content without buying it or getting permission, and then reupload portions of it with or without subtitles slapped on like a bunch of promos for bootleg crabstick versions if the stream. The format and consumption mechanism is the same, which means they're directly competing with the original rights holders for views, watch time and money. This is why clipfags deserve the rope. They're not pirating for personal consumption. They're pirating for reselling and redistribution. This is where most reasonable people believe the line ought to be, and that's why Hololive doesn't need clippers who don't translate well or add anything of real value.

By all means, use the clips for commentary and educational purposes. That falls under fair use. But the moment you monetize, that's when you've done fucked up and outed yourself as a greedy leech.