/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Vshojo has fallen.

>>47901515
I will cum on this figurine

>>47901515
perfect for my jar

>>47901584
It's all Vei's fault

>>47901515

>>47901515
Here's the helmetless version as a webm

>>47901584
Fatman must die

Awesome figure

>>47901515
wrong file

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>Archive Links:

- Complete Nyanners (Post Vtuber Debut) Vod Archive (Starting on 2020-07-17 running until 2023-xx-xx): https://pastebin.com/Eg1Yy3TZ

- Complete Hime Hajime Vod Archive (Starting on 2021-01-31 running until 2023-xx-xx): https://pastebin.com/28iC7P72

- Bubivt Vod "Archive" and some other Vods/Vod Spreadsheets: https://pastebin.com/STax22rK
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>Some other stuff that might be of use:

- Vod Archiving guide for Twitch/Youtube Live streams that covers the basics: https://pastebin.com/1i8hF902

- Links for the 4chan (#/vt/ and #recanon) IRC channels, Koikatsu Party Character cards from /Vsj+/ and /lig/, the website to make wordclouds and some fitness guides an anon posted in /vsj+/: https://pastebin.com/FiAsYK7e

>>47901584
Onto my dick

>>47901629
Does it come with a swappable head or something? Looks too fragile for that

>>47901963
Yup. Zen said it's secured with magnets so it probably will still be fragile, but you won't have to worry about cracking it like a gunpla when you swap

Look at my cute delinquent wife

I'm starting to think that Nazuna sort of expected her level of popularity during hololive to just carry over to twitch. Or that she was expecting more Japanese to actually use the platform?

Probably didn't help that she got over 70k viewers on her debut...

its super sweet how vei is learning how to cook for them both. what a tradwife role model

>>47902090 (me)
Sorry, only 53k max. But still a high number for a debut on twitch

>>47902090
>expecting maintaining that numbers with 30 hours streamed per month, almost 0 collabs and no schedule

>>47902354
How many of those hours are Apex

>>47902090
>>47902354
She comes from a place where brand power got her 10k minimum viewers for doing literally anything, and special events get you tens of thousands of tourists.

>>47902090
She is extremely mentally ill and actually brain damaged. I don't think she's able to be rational about anything.

>>47902090
She was hoping a new persona would get rid of the bad rep she has and allow her to connect and collab with other Japanese streamers but that did not work out, She does not want to cause trouble for others so she avoids collabing.

Her inconsistency is mostly because of her poor mental and physical health.

>>47902090
to be fair her decline was pretty brutal, most streamers pretend to not numberfag but seeing your audience sink over 90% in a few short weeks can't be good for your mental health

Please shut the fuck up. You don't even know what she said.

>>47902459

>>47901515
disgusting tits

>>47902503
the problem is her unicorn friendly agenda pushed away a good amount of would be new viewers and only sucked in the exholo ones, just check her threads, bunch of posters crying about missing rushia, wanting rushia back, they don't care about nazuna herself just the company she used to be part of

>>47897095
I'm nearly done listening through this

After the 10 minute mark, there's no real mention of YouTube, streaming, kaigainiki etc
The rest is pauses, thanking viewers, and casual conversation
So the brief mentions in the first handful of minutes are the meat of this rrat

On a first pass, almost all of the greentext from the current bait OP in the catalog does not appear to be present

Listening through the beginning again and I'll reply to this with the gist

>>47902441
She also has her independent account, which she was using during her time in Hololive.
She's also friends with Kson, who was in a very similar scenario.
She's not an idiot, she knows the audience isn't going to transfer completely.

>>47902688
Being unicorn friendly was literally her brand for 3 years (which btw was heavily popular). Antis and disaster tourists won't ever stick more than a week on her.

>>47902688
It's pretty ironic because that time nazuna got raided by nyan (who was afk at the time) got excited as soon as she realized some raid viewers were still there and she was really trying hard to capture some of her audience, even brought out her old model to show off lol, it was pretty cute ill admit

>>47902688
The unicorn fans care more about Nazuna than literally anyone else
Her CCV would be far lower if she had started collabing with men.

https://twitter.com/Selen_Tatsuki/status/1649920083672850433

does Vshojo members read fan letters? PS: the one with Vei and Soda shitting on a parasocial fan doesn't count.

>>47902696
>keyfags refusing to translate leads to shitty rrat
Boy this is getting old. I'm just going to assume they don't actually know Japanese lest I get a very negative impression of them.

>>47902813
she lost more than half of her subs after joining a male's stream in August

>>47902688
>her unicorn friendlyy agenda
So you mean just... who she is? Her brand for the last 3-4 years as it still is ongoing? Of course that's going to attract and retain mostly old viewers, I don't know how anyone can expect anything else.

>>47902696
>unreliable translation from anti-vshojo keyfags turns out to be unreliable

who could have seen this coming

>>47902849
They're pretty retarded. When a shitty rrat starts here people immediately start posting clips for context. They're happy to just let rrats fester and form. Even the Kson thread that doesn't tell people what actually happened will come in and say "this is not what she said" when a rrat is made up about her.

>>47902849
And there is a bait thread already, i guess they just want more catalogfags and baiters in their thread.

>>47900525
Me too, I also approached her with a clean slate, but I still rather like her
There are some things I don't like, like no male collabs, and as a matter of fact any other collabs,
I don't really know why it is like that, but my guess is that she's not really cut out to be an indie.
My idea of working as an idol for a corpo is that a lot of decisions are made above your head. This may sound like a shit deal, but not for everyone. If you can't make those decisions yourself, that might actually be a blessing

Anyway, I hope she figures out her place in it all because she's ok. And I like her bunny ears

>>47902828
My delinquent wife loves fan letters

>>47903056
>There are some things I don't like, like no male collabs
I will never understand why you'd watch a cute girl being lovely to her chat and think
>God, this would be so much better with a man talking to her

>>47902849
and keybitches keep crying about why everyone hates them, truly a mystery

If they really wanted nazuna to success maybe they would try not to bitch an moan stream or obess over her leaving her agency just because they personally don't like it

>>47903122
Is it bad that i want her to have friends? Wtf is this logic

>>47903122
Because that's not how people look at it. Look at what the opposite has done. She gets yelled at for joining a 12 person collab that has a guy in it. She gets yelled at for saying hi to a guy while in Minecraft. She can't join huge servers that everyone else is a part of because there are guys in it. You don't become okay with a guy collabing with her because it's specifically what you want, but because without it there's a lot of missed opportunities. The rest of the world isn't a sealed environment like Hololive. Guys exist.

>>47902880
>she lost more than half of her subs
>Blaming it on unicorns
Now that's just being dishonest anon, can't forget that most of those subs where also debut subs that wouldn't last long as well.

By the way if anyone missed it Geega ended stream and is collabing with 2 himbos and a herbo. On Shia's channel now. No one else is streaming. https://www.twitch.tv/shiabun

Nazuna going menhera over her viewcount and stream content? We can fix that.

never believing another word out of you keycucks ever again, go back to gaslighting each other in your own thread

>>47903275
I was talking about just her twitch subs

>>47903204
I don't give a shit about her actually doing stuff with males. I want her to be able to join shit like Minecraft servers freely or the ultra rare big collab, I don't care if she completely ignores every guy there once she is in.

>>47903191
That's only one person who refuses to shut up in the thread but okay, it's like saying this thread is all just nyanspergs because one or two people constantly bitch about Nyan.

>>47903275
I was not talking about just her twitch subs

Nyanners has half the viewers she use to have when she got in a relationship with Aethel and i am not saying that in a negative way. EN fans are almost no different from JP fans.

>>47901584
I'll bite - how exactly?
I follow all the girls (I can't obviously watch every stream) so I roughly know how things are. I haven't been on 4chan in a few months and I came here and apparently, everyone is in a panic mode for some reason

>>47903330
Yeah. If she doesn't want to do 1 on 1 collabs with guys that's fine I wouldn't give a fuck about that. But shit like Bounce could have been kino

>>47903330
They really gotta hire more JP talent so she's not so lonely, I don't even watch her I just feel bad that all she really has is kson

>>47903362
That's once again being dishonest, her twitcast and youtube mems didn't decrease.

>>47903192
I don't know a single Japanese male streamer who isn't a piece of shit. Not a single one

I don't hate Keyfriends. They are just low IQ like Nazzy. It is cute.

>>47903192
Japanese male streamers are notoriously shit people anon.

>>47903436
Seems like you just hate japanese dudes

>>47903436
Even Mouse's husbando?

>>47903436
Don't insult my boy DMJ

>>47903426
they did she has mentioned this many times

>>47903436
That fps_shaka dude?

>>47903484
There are none, unironically. Just recently a Jap streamer was found to be a pedo and 2 underage girls he was grooming offed themselves. You have Kore2 and his gang as well. Jun and his fans don't like Vtubers and are retards....yeah there are none.

>>47903397
That's not a good example. Nyan lost a lot of viewers because of how inconsistent she's been for the past couple of months.
If she farmed unicorn viewers, then that would be a more likely reason.

>>47903486
pic not related?

>>47903525
Yeah, but not in August, her mems have been decreasing steadily, not all at once.

>>47903570
>125 million people in Japan
>only 3 of them are males
Holy shit no wonder the birth rate is so low

>>47903416
Is there not an indie scene in Japan? Can she not say hello to other streamers?

>>47903651
yes in August she precisely stated when they left

what are you guys watching?
sorry Aethel is not cutting it for me

She ruined her and her bf's sleep schedule

>>47903580
Also nyan is still in the top 3 most popular/successful vshojos, if she streamed as much as she did before she got burned out she'd be at least mouse's level

>>47903719
She's one of the most hated vtubers in Japan due to her reputation and she isn't trusting of people due to being repeatedly backstabbed last year.

>>47902696
First two minutes
>Good evening. Today my head hurts so I'll end after a little bit.
>Are there kaigai here? Um, as I thought, there was a mistake
>Do you remember what we talked about? There was a mistake
>When I received my wages, I thought there was a mistake
[She speaks fast/unclearly next but it's something to the effect of "I told you directly that I'm OK, but please support only me"]
>What's after Twitcast and YouTube? Can I just do Twitcast and YouTube?
Skipping ahead to 3:45. I don't fully grasp the part in-between but it doesn't seem particularly relevant.
>Should I do YouTube only?
Before and here she keeps mentioning something, akihebun(?) and I don't really understand what it's referencing.
>From here, should I seriously go YouTube only?
>Sorry, "only" is a lie. I won't quit Twitcast.
>Twitcasts are nice, right? It's like being on the phone with everyone.
And this is about where any relevant information ends, just before the 5 minute mark.

So if anyone knows better Japanese than me, or can at least parse her speech better than me, that's the only part of the video you need to bother with.

>>47902849
It's pretty fucking tiresome
>you just don't know her, you'll never understand her like we do
>don't listen to the antis, they're spreading misinformation
>no, we won't tell you what the truth is
They're literally a self-fulfilling drama mill. It's like they want it to happen.

>>47903888
I don't know what Eresys is but I'm watching the collab for Geega and Buff. Basil and Shia are alright too.

>>47903888
Filian being the autistic little sister I wish I had.

>>47903977
lol that part is so irritating
>don't listen to the antis they're spreading misinfo
>no we won't tell you what's real, figure it out yourself

>>47903966
What about Kson's friends? They don't seem like the kind of people to fall for that.
Still seething her and Pikamee never collabed btw

>>47903977
Finally a translation, thank you anon.
>Before and here she keeps mentioning something, akihebun(?) and I don't really understand what it's referencing.
Her biggest sub gifter on Twitch atm is called Akhevan. Could it be about him?

nazuna just needs more jp vshojos to keep her company since she's obviously too introverted to ask for collabs herself

>>47903977
thank you for your efforts, anon

>>47904221
>implying being a fellow vshojo member leads to easy collabs

>>47904154
Kson's female friends are mostly fine, although I think a lot of them actually don't want to interact with her
Funnily enough, the two men in that Gartic Phone collab are both good friends with Vee, the anti TLer who leaked her membership content back in October to cause drama. That guy has done one on one collabs with both of those guys.

>>47904221
New jp vshojo's are going to have their own friend circles, lmao. Nobody is gonna force collabs

>>47902459
Who is this?

>>47903947
based rat

>>47904221
Not just that. Japanese autism, please understand. She is a disgraced outcast and is afraid her reputation will cause harm to anyone that she collabs with.

>>47903122
>I will never understand
I think you will, someday
>why you'd watch a CUTE girl being LOVELY to her chat
do you see it now? you just want to fuck her
when you stop wanting to fuck people, your optics change

>>47903580
She's been inconsistent for a year. It's pretty clear she doesn't take streaming remotely seriously anymore. She's still my favorite vtuber, but I have no problem missing streams now. Also her content has changed a lot. She used to be much more of a Just Chatting streamer, sang a lot, played very casual games that allowed her to ramble endlessly. Now she's more of a gamer cat. Not a bad thing, but it is different content.

>>47903405
nazuna, vei, silver and zen are graduating in the next weeks / months

So you're telling me that the drama faggot baited this thread with 5 minutes of non-vshojo jap rambling, and then recorded the next 35 or so minutes to make the "drama" seem bigger than it actually is?

>>47904221
I'm actually very surprised she hasn't collabed with any of the other girls with silly games but I guess they are all to stupid to ask

For crying out loud Silver and Froot did it what's stopping literally anybody else
And every time people ask Mouse it seems she only wants to do SOTD and not like a game collab

Who the hell are these dudes on Aethel's stream

i'm going to put the cum in cumfy wolf

>>47904598
I think he's doin his rap battle thing and those are some castle members from the discord

>>47904439
>I think you will, someday
I actually refuse to, ideologically speaking, because Rushia was the best vtuber and indeed the best girl I've ever met in my life and she refused to collab with men.
I can still see the flickers of that girl in Nazuna and I want to nurture and protect that flame rather than extinguish it.

>>47904592
Here is your answer: language barrier.

>>47904151
In her thread they let anti's say whatever they want and no checks em on it. They don't know how to defend their thread and it keeps her fanbase divvied

>>47903405
rrats anon 90% of the time we just talk out of our asses

>>47904766
I mean Silver and Froot managed to play games with her

>>47904564
Not necessarily
>Posted 45 min recording of mem twitcast in the key thread
>Everyone ignored and reported it
>Post jannied
>Post recording in /vsj/ along with doom text
>Everyone bites
>Makes fake translation
>Makes bait thread with fake translation
>People calling OP a fag in the bait thread for not knowing Japanese
>Bait thread deleted
>Key thread isn't talking about it
>Catalog isn't talking about it
>/vsj/ still is
Something like that.

>>47904863
oh yeah, remember the conversations?

>>47904214
I had the thought that it might be someone from her community, but I'm not tapped in enough to know

>>47904719
What kind of Dark Souls bullshit are you saying?

>>47904777
That's false, they just reported people posting the recording in their thread for dox and it worked. Only thread who actually bit was ours.

>>47904863
Even in that collab, you could tell that Nazuna was getting a bit stressed out about the difficulty of trying to convey herself or trying to understand English despite getting assistance. Pretty much anything above a 3 person collab would be completely out of her grasp. Look at how often she completely misunderstands even basic English comments.

>>47904592
Mouse and Nyan have both expressed interest in collabing with her but she's always too busy/timezone clashes/doesn't speak jp. Nazuna actually directly asked for a mc collab with nyan in a twitter video congratulating her on I forget what (bday maybe?) And nyan does know some jp but I wouldn't be surprised if she's hesitant to bc a lot of keyfags hate her and anyone who isn't kson

>>47903719
Kson has like an entire community of indie vtubers surrounding her who do stuff together all the time. Doing anything with them would mean occasionally talking to a m*le though.

>>47904963
And people lurk here to repost stuff in the form of bait threads elsewhere. Happens literally all the time.

>>47905015
>keyfags hate her and anyone who isn't kson
This couldn't be further from the truth. I'm pretty sure Keyfags would prefer Nazuna collab with any of the girls besides Kson.

>>47905127
Even Vei?!

>>47904963
I'm actually talking how that thread is run overall

>>47905072
I like that posters above where calling the Keyfags a drama-mill when the bait thread was created because people here actually bit the bait instead of reporting.

>>47905030
>Kson interacts with loads of different streamers
>must talk to a male
Isn't this a massive contradiction? You can just organise events without men.

I have never watched nazuna because I don't know moon runes, but I've watched this clip many times so keyfags have my support
https://www.twitch.tv/amemiyanazuna/clip/AuspiciousOddTire4Head-vSVfW1aPU5_khi7Y

>>47904963
>>47905194
Reports here rarely work regardless.

>>47905194
>post audio with source unknown to anyone in the thread
>expect people to gamble a ban on whether it's member's content or just a Twitcast that nobody here watched
>ask her thread, they don't say shit
Hmm it seems like there'd be an easy solution to this if someone was willing to cooperate and say "report this" to the people not in the know

>no stream org

>>47904863
Yeah, I can still remember the great conversations and banter from that one

>>47905348
X is live

>>47905194
go back to your thread bitch

The "twitcast and youtube is OK" comment is in response to someone asking that she does more youtube membership content and has nothing to do with Vshojo.
Streaming to as many different platforms is GOOD PRACTICE as some members will only subscribe to 1.

>>47904461
I knew it, bs as always

>>47905435
Xqc?

>>47905348
Don't use the monkey paw bro

so from what I can tell the only people pushing this "drama" are angry the key thread doesn't spoonfeed them on command
pretty sad

>>47905435
Weird way to spell lumituber

>>47905336
Did anyone bother to even ask the keythread before starting to shitpost? Why do you think they'd still be talking about it after the fact? Also bold of you to assume Keyfags actually visit this thread regularly.

zentreya

>>47905606
>>47897553

>>47905336
>>expect people to gamble a ban on whether it's member's content or just a Twitcast that nobody here watched
Irrelevant since Mikeneko explicitly forbids to repost/discuss either.

It'll be pretty based if Nazuna accepts her verification mark and goes live today for some more ER

>>47905194
We have exactly no way to know what is and isn't bait regarding Nazuna

Her dedicated fans in the other thread never say anything, never clarify anything, never correct anything.
Their silence lets the schizos run wild and we're left trying to make sense of it.

We can't be expected to follow Nazuna as closely as they do. We have 11 other girls, and their close friends that we've focused on for years. It's simply not realistic, and a little cooperation would go a long way.
But not only does rumina hate us, they're actively isolationist and insist on gatekeeping even the smallest amount of information.

This is a problem they allow to persist.

why doesn't vei have the vshojo checkmark...?

Nazuna problems should stay in the Nazuna dedicated thread.

>>47905631
they say it's membership content a few posts after that one though

>>47905661
She's not quitting and even if she were she wouldn't announce through a flipping twitcast.

>>47905724
That's not what's important though. What's important is whether or not the summary the person who posted it is true. They don't have to say what she actually says, but a simple that person is full of shit would suffice.

>>47905631
>>47898658

>>47905552
Then don't be surprised that people would believe misinformation and spread rrats, keyfag

we bite, because we care

>>47905661
>problem
One anon used to post summaries of her Twitcast public streams to the threads to keep people informed. He had to stop because people had begun to write rrats about them and spread them around. Those streams are 90% just her talking about what she did that day and otaku talk.

>>47905661
>they're actively isolationist and insist on gatekeeping even the smallest amount of information.

Yeah, I can't imagine why they'd be so hesitant to share after being dumped on by pretty much everyone with a voice in vtuber communities for more than an entire year

>>47905715
agreed, i love nazuna and i wish the menhera the best but i hope gunrun doesn't recruit another exholo/gfe in the future, keyfags have been a fucking plague on this thread and i dont want another repeat with the new girls

>>47905914
>Keyfags
I'm pretty sure Keyfags wouldn't repost membership content in the /vsj/ thread anon.

>>47905883
First time in vsj+?

>>47905691
it will be revealed on 29th

>>47905883
Damn I wonder how that happened

Here's an idea: Let's shut the fuck up about the old ass disproven bait and post about streams WAIT FUCK

>>47905962
Mikeneko explicitly forbids non-membership twitcast reposting as well. The only clips she allows are Nazuna's

>>47905977
What are you saying anon? That people have been shitting on VShojo and its members and rrating about them nonstop since its formation in 2020? That's crazy. Everyone here loves VShojo!

>>47905751
NTA
I don’t know if she would, /るみな/ does, and that’s exactly the problem

Queen Vei status?

>>47906223
graduating

>>47905962
wish they'd stop showing up here everytime she does a twitcast to "update" us about how she totally hates vshojo and is quitting next week guys!! and dipping without elaborating

>>47906223
i love this artist bros

>>47906223
I'm pegging chance right now he's moaning like a little bitch

Filian is wearing a nyan sweatshirt

>catching up on zen's vod
she's in love with a holo
it's over

>>47906223
making tea and microwave meals

>>47906402
I love Zen

>>47906323
They don't do this but okay. You are really grasping at straws to blame them now anon.

niko did a froog "cosplay": https://twitter.com/NikoDark20/status/1649934881001013248

>>47906596
>They don't do this but okay
How are we supposed to know which are genuine keyfags and which are antis?

Someone waltzes in here with information from the Mikeneko side of things and we're just supposed to psychically know if it's legitimate?
Keyfags resent her being in VShojo as it is so we can't exactly rely on typical anti flags since keyfags already fulfill that from our perspective.

>>47906402
All the girls are Holofags, some maybe secretly

>>47905213
She could, but that would involve her having to overcome japanese autism, which doesn't seem to be happening anytime soon.

I was moreso talking about how she could just join in with them in random big group collabs and make friends that way. That's much easier for an introvert. The Ark gachikoi squad for example, does collab streams all the time like this one the other day
https://youtu.be/PlLi_nlhZOY?t=2323
She could just log in Kson's server and ask to join and be invited instantly, but there's a couple guys in that group.

>>47906797
It was actually a Holostar she said she liked. A JP one even. >>47890672

>Vsj civilwar
>vsj+ is team ironman
>keyfriends are captain america
>nazuna is bucky
>the anon leaking member content is zemo
kino

>>47906853
Yeah, I hope to god that she never bothers with that. Men truly do ruin everything good with Vtubers

>>47906301

>>47906792
You should recognize fans of your genmates.

Look I'm just saying that there's this account on Twitter I follow called stupid_catgirl and their avatar is a catgirl with pink hair and everytime I see them post I think for a split second it's Mike. Even funnier when a couple weeks ago they changed their name to certified retard. That's all I have to say

>>47906926
not really, its more of a discussion lacking the input from keybros

>>47907027
Nazuna's fans hate us and hate that she's in VShojo

>>47907154
>go to her thread
>ctrl+f "vshojo"
It's just that easy.
>>47899134
>>47900494
>>47901639

mouse is awake

>>47907285
>same typing style
i'm not a keyfag, but this is just one guy shitslinging

>>47907285
>After the bait thread was made
>After shitposters started infesting their threads when people here retardedly starting biting the bait
Really compelling evidence there anon.

>>47907398
>>47907380
Are you arguing that there's not people in that thread who actually hate us?

>>47907285
>two posts mention Varium
>Actual Keys don't watch any other chubba
This is credible why?

>>47907475
You don't have to watch someone to know they exist? I don't watch Idol Corp or Phase Connect and I know they exist.

>>47907398
The only people who can identify the shitposters are the keyfags themselves.

Anyone outside of their clandestine niche can't tell the difference.

>>47907454
yeah i believe it, but you just linked the same sperg

>>47906951
>sees a bunch of small streamers having fun
>"oh my god that looks horrible"
nice fanbase

>>47907285
I agree with this anon
>>47907380
no tells him to fuck off and that makes you wonder

>>47907539
The reason she doesn't go near men has always been because she didn't want to hurt her fans. Because she cares about her fans, she doesn't want to hurt them. Despite all of the trauma and pain she's experienced in the last year, that core part of her personality has managed to mostly remain intact
She told us recently that she understands that the unicorns don't want to see her collab with men because they love her. Do you even understand how important of a thing that is to declare? She doesn't want to hurt people who love her. She doesn't want to hurt the people who she loves.

>>47907595
>no tells him to fuck off
>No one gives him attention or (you)'s
Its how most of the shitposting in their thread stops, they just don't pay it any attention, it's why most of the time their antis have to same fag.

>>47907750
If you really loved her you would want her to be happy. Everyone in that stream sounded a lot happier than Nazuna ever does.

>>47907398
i also don't see anyone in those linked posts disagreeing or challenging them so even if they are shiposters they seem to share the same opinions anyway

>>47907750
>Nazuna is my wife, she loves me and will never betray me
>NOOOOOOOO YOU CAN'T INTERACT WITH A MAN, WHAT IF YOU BETRAY ME
Have you considered having faith in your wife instead of always jumping to believe the worst of her?
If it's real love, then it should be strong enough for something this small.

>>47903947
https://twitter.com/ironmouse/status/1649940243980664835?s=20
I wasn't kidding lol

>>47907595
so what you're saying is that keyfags have somehow become better at ignoring bait than us
i did not need to know that

lol I guess they figured big influencers were not gonna pay

https://twitter.com/Dexerto/status/1649908789657698304

listen i dont really care if keys hate us, we're all used it anyway im just asking if you can just leave us alone and keep it in your own thread hell just bait on catalog first

>>47908099
monke...

>>47907750
>>47907893
>>47907947
Sounds like an abusive relationship tbdesu.

Is she really sending lawyers after that leaker baitfag?

What's worse, a vtuber revealing they started dating a mod or an oiler?

>>47908194
god i hope so for everyone's sake

>>47907985
Or that they agree with this specific bait so it doesn't get any response.

>>47908191
Unicorns are basically abusive e-boyfriends

>>47907893
Yes and I acknowledge that Rushia was her true happiness.
She's told us that Rushia was her true self and how happy she was to be Rushia. She basically begged us never to forget Rushia if she was important to us. So I won't.
>>47907947
Do you seriously believe we don't like her interacting with men because we think she'll cheat? It's because she promised explicitly on stream that she wouldn't and promises are very important.

>>47908099
It's still saying they paid on the checkmarks, I feel like that's illegal somehow

>>47908235
Mod, you don't shit where you eat anon.

>>47908368
Unironically is. The Lanham act lol.

>its another keyfag shits up the thread about his "relationship" with his "wife" episode

>>47908314
seems like nazuna has stockholm syndrome

>>47908235
Mod because it shows how pathetically dependent they are that they ended up dating one

>>47908336
Rushia's dead now. You can't be Rushia in the indie world and thrive. There are boys in the real world.

>>47908194
I think if the leaker is from JP she can get them because JP laws but if its from somewhere else its case closed already

>>47908336
>It's because she promised explicitly on stream that she wouldn't and promises are very important.
And she promised because doing so would "hurt her fans."

Now, WHY would it hurt them?

>gossiping about the Keyfag's relationship with Nazuna
You sisters are worse than the Holofags

>>47908506
This argument would be more convincing if Nazuna wasn't doing better CCV wise than Kson.

Why can't we ever have a peaceful day?

>>47908549
>sisters (derogatory)

>>47908656
honestly she gives her antis too much attention

>>47908235
Most mods for vtubers is pretty much ultra simping for their streamer, ever notice how fast theyll respond to certain questions? Get angry or set their eyes on getting you removed if they feel youre a threat to their chance at getting with said streamer?

>>47908633
she needs to streams more consistently first

>>47908336
yeah after that last bait believing anything nazuna supposedly said from your unicorn mouths is the last thing im doing

>>47908336
>She's told us that Rushia was her true self and how happy she was to be Rushia. She basically begged us never to forget Rushia if she was important to us.

source? your delusions

>>47908796
>get angry or set their eyes on getting you removed if they feel you're a threat to their chance at getting with said streamer
Vei's mods in a nutshell

>>47908172
Get fucked, male

>>47908990
watch him say
>she said it in super secret private tweetcast, and i'm not going to leak it

>>47908633
Perhaps you should be paying attention to your wife's well-being rather than looking at a number on the screen. Can you honestly say she's happier than Kson?

>>47908549
It's very important to actively aid antis, you see.

Speaking of Vei
20 hours and 10 minutes until she's /out/

>>47909134
If you're actually trying to argue that collabing with men will make her happier, I'll just inform you that that is 100% an anti talking point and let you ruminate over the implications of that

>>47909448

>>47908847
What? I'm saying the exact opposite.
Nazuna's average viewership is higher than Kson's. The Unicorn friendly Indie has more fans than the non-unicorn friendly one.

oh my fucking god

>>47908235
Mods, when a vtuber gives an extremely parasocial too much power, they play judge jury and executioner on anyone they see as a potential rival and getting the streamer

>>47909448
Having friends will make her happier, yes.

>>47909448
hehe, rumina te

>>47904868
It's 45 minutes of her repenting and thanking me for delivering her to the true path and light of
>Installing Fightcade

>>47909569
Can you go and be an unrepentant cuckold elsewhere, normalfag?

>>47909569
She has male friends, doesn't mean she has to collab with said friends.

>>47909596
i love you fightcade anon

>>47909596
You missed a brief moment of Fightcade hope yesterday anon. Zen asked what game she should play and one of her mods sent a video with a game suggestion and for like 10 seconds you could hear the opening to Capcom Vs SNK 2. Sadly Zen did not actually play it.

>>47909448
>Can you honestly say she's happier than Kson?
You didn't answer the question for some reason.

aight I'm heading to bed
expect silver and hime to go live imminently

>>47909681
please google what cuckold means, unicornfag

>>47909716
Because it's a bad argument. Someone like Silver for sure isn't happier than Kson and Silver collabs with guys, Nazunas problem is that she has mental issues.

>>47909448
The argument is that she'll be happier if she isn't being held hostage by her "fans."

It's not about making her collab with men, it's about getting her to feel like it won't be the end of her career if she ever did.

Whether she actually does is irrelevant.

>>47909716
Because asking if someone who has been diagnosed with both bipolar disorder and depression is "happy" has to be the most loaded and retarded question I've seen all day.

>>47909131
Not our fault that this woman only does private mem twitcasts.

>>47909877
nobody can ever be happy

>>47909877
>>47909160

>>47909858
>it's about getting her to feel like it won't be the end of her career if she ever did.
She's probably lose about 30-40% of her core fanbase if she did, so it's not exactly a good thing to try.
On top of that, she's addressed both the fans who don't want her to do it, and the fans who are fine with it. And if you ask me, her reaction to the fans who don't want her to do it was in fact warmer than to the ones who "wanted her to be free".
She's free to throw us away whenever she wants. The fact she refused to should speak for itself.

>>47909692
*blows kisses*

>>47909695
True love making denied
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLIA7EII2D8

>>47909816
Biggest mental issue being her english fans.

>>47908796
Mods on Twitch are mainly glorified viewers, sure some have easy access to talk to their creator, but they are still regular viewers pulling a "job". They are kinda parasocial but some are chill, there's some that do go overboard which is weird in concept. And there's these motherfuckers:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qk4N-vfZhwk

Oshi status?

>>47910047
Last time she was annoyed about fans, she was complaining about the Taiwanese cheating on her. She then praised the American fans because they don't.

You cant save her Keyfans, support her while shes still around at least but dont cause further strain or pray her cat form takes flight again.

This thread is a shithole.

>>47910137
Not live :(

>>47910015
>She's probably lose about 30-40% of her core fanbase if she did
Yeah, that's kind of the fucking problem.
Put yourself in her shoes and imagine what it's like to have a fanbase so fragile that it may very well fall apart over the slightest change of pace.

>her reaction to the fans who don't want her to do it was in fact warmer than to the ones who "wanted her to be free"
And why wouldn't it be? If her unicorn fans feel like they aren't the center of her world, then it becomes a problem, doesn't it?

>She's free to throw us away
>She'd probably lose about 30-40% of her core fanbase
These are not compatible.

>>47910188
just wait until vei starts streaming again

>>47910047
And you wonder why we keep to ourselves. >>47909877 Also, she went off once again at her Taiwanese and Japanese fans for watching other girls.

I love big titties

>>47910137
In bed, chilling, over the moon that she spent a whole day with her "bro"

>>47910137
Missing for months. Last spotted running around in the jungle.

this thread needs vei

>>47910137
banned...

>>47910224
lol

>>47910253
>>47910259

Unity

Keyfags, reply to this post and I will suck your cock

>>47910223
Sounds more like you have some pathetic hate boner for unicorns and you're trying to feebly project it onto her. She's already told people to stop attacking Unicorns so simmer down, sister.

>>47910118
And thanks to that clips I'm back again on a Bubi rabbit hole
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDNVMSvAAmI
I miss him so much

>>47910015
What you're describing is her saying whatever it takes to keep her fans around out of duress rather than her true feelings and what she actually wants.

>>47910118
They wouldn't take the job if they weren't parasocial

>>47910335
bj please

>>47910335
hello?

>>47910223
>fanbase so fragile that it may very well fall apart over the slightest change of pace
Don't make multiple promises saying that you won't do something then do it anyways.
>And why wouldn't it be? If her unicorn fans feel like they aren't the center of her world, then it becomes a problem, doesn't it?
Sounds like a cope post, she prefers her unicorn fans over the ones who watch other people, what a fucking surprise.
>These are not compatible
This is just retarded, she's perfectly free to get rid of them just as they are perfectly free to not stick around.

>>47910253
Kys retard
>>47910259
I wish

>>47910381
Sorry, boy. Are you a mind reader or something?
If she says the exact opposite of what you believe, aren't you just projecting? How can you possibly know "her true feelings"? On that matter, do you even know Japanese?

>>47910253
kys

>>47910335
>a free bj for being mentally ill
>

>>47910191
>>47910236
>>47910244
>>47910259
Glad for the good things and I hope Kson is okay

>>47910381
You sound like the Taiwanese nekofami who "know what she actually means" that she's ripped into just recently ngl.

>>47910594
I wanna hug this bitch so fucking bad bros.

just got here wtf happened with the keyfags now?

>>47910349
>She's already told people to stop attacking Unicorns
I'm not attacking anyone.
I'm using simple deductive reasoning.

Unicorns are so volatile, and such a large part of her dedicated fanbase, that she has no choice but to capitulate to them and their whims, coddle and baby them as much as she can, or risk taking a massive blow to her career.

>>47910480
>she prefers her unicorn fans over the ones who watch other people
Why the fuck would she say anything else?
Think about it critically, anon. Would YOU tell your obsessive fans who are the majority of your funding that you prefer the normal fans that don't cause her trouble?

>>47910678
2 threads of retards responding to weak af bait from nazuna antis
Classic vsj+ dumbassery
Just ignore and go watch some porn

>>47910653
Do you want to fuck her?

>>47910707
>the normal fans that don't cause her trouble?
Except that she's complained about getting shitty DMs from non unicorns too. In fact, her last breakdown over DMs was from a non Unicorn. She outright told a non unicorn recently that his presence literally triggers her and that she hadn't forgiven him for accusing her of abandoning her JP fans because she defended unicorns

>>47910678
Someone posted fake translation bait, keyfag thread ignored and reported, this thread bit and started attacking Nazuna and then blamed keyfags.

>>47910678
>criticize them for not disarming bait
>they criticize us for taking it in the first place
I've ignored everything else because it seems like a time loop

>>47910511
>She's probably lose about 30-40% of her core fanbase if she did
There's the threat.
>she's addressed both the fans who don't want her to do it, and the fans who are fine with it
Wishy-washy answer that placates everyone.

Compare what she says with her actual actions. She wants to make friends and doesn't care if they're boys. Source: watching her try to make friends with boys. It's pretty obvious what's going on.

>>47910809
No, just hug her
Probably catch a small whiff, hoping that she smells great.

>>47910378
MOUSE YOU SATANIC TEMPTRESS LET MY KING GO. FREE HIM FROM THE SEX DUNGEON WITCH!

>>47910817
I'm sure her opinion of that individual anti extends to all non-unicorns
That's a reasonable assumption to make

When's SotD

>>47910833
checked

>>47910899
>forced her "best friend" to be her very own built-a-husbando
>doesn't stream

>>47910833
>>47910830
>>47910797
aight, thanks anons

>>47910830
>started attacking Nazuna and then blamed keyfags
This didn't really happen, it was more like asking questions

hime killed lewdcast

>>47910960
I want that cover Mouse said she wanted with Froot

>>47910837
>There's the threat.
That's not a threat at all. Fans are free to stop watching her if she starts acting in a way that they don't want to support
What exactly is your solution then to this "problem"? Are you just going to brainwash all of the unicorns until they change their minds
Here's a newflash: you're calling her a liar constantly with this bullshit. This may come as some sort of a shock to you, but it turns out that she might actually like her fans and is being honest when she says this to them. Is such a concept unfathomable to you? Or do you just assume that she's lying constantly for the sake of popularity or money (and this is despite the fact that a bunch of her top donators aren't unicorns)

>>47910797
>>47910830
>>47910833
no wonder the keyfags hate us

>>47911083
Are there any songs that include both opera and screaming

I enjoyed both Nazuna streams this week. She's clearly in great spirits which must really piss off her antis. Looking forward to the next stream whenever that may be.
White angel good.

>>47910945
Hey, it's the exact same logic people use to demonize Unicorns.

>>47911026
Whether it was regulars or tourists, some posters were downright mean when given the slightest whiff of an excuse to shittalk her.

>>47911155
If unicorns aren't evil why do they have huge stabby horns on their heads?
Pointy horse bad.

Jesus, this is like one guy yells at the wall and there another dude from the other side who does the same thing. You are clearly not going to convince anyone to change someone's mind. Give up and move on already.

>>47911087
>What exactly is your solution then to this "problem"?
Do what she wants, tell the unischizos to fuck off, then build a fanbase of people who are actually supportive.

Nazuna problems. Go back to the Nazuna thread.

>>47911087
>That's not a threat at all.
>If you don't act a certain way, a third of your fanbase will leave
How isn't this a threat?
Give me one reason why Nazuna, or any streamer, wouldn't feel pressured under this condition.

Even if she does love her unicorn fans, the conditionality of their love is a constant balancing act. Everything she does is colored by the looming threat of their easily-sparked outrage.

How is this so hard to comprehend?

>>47911093
Don't pretend they're blameless. All they had to do was say "that's not what she said"

>>47911093
hardly anyone is mean to them, most anons try to understand them

>>47911367
all this thread had to do was not bite bait

>>47911397
We can't tell what is and isn't bait because it all looks the same to us.

>>47911397
Two groups of retards

>>47911360
>stay away from men
>0 problems
So hard, what a looming threat, an incredible balancing act. Oh how the heavens themselves weep at her struggle.

>>47910707
>who are the majority of your funding
This is false actually, non-unicorns donate more than unicorns, and she knows this as well. Can't use the "they're her biggest donors so she won't give them up" cope. In fact it's the anticorns who are her biggest donors.

>>47911440
sounds like a skill issue

>>47911367
You really need someone to refute that she said she hates foreigners or you'll believe it?

>>47911397
bite on my dick

>>47911326
>actually supportive
I don't want to hear this from the thread that throws a fit whenever someone posts a Mikeneko stream here.

>>47911397
We don't speak Japanese we can't tell if it is bait or if she was seriously railing against VShojo and planning to leave in her members twitcast.

>>47911461
Yes? When there's a group of 12 people in a collab and 1 is a guy and she gets angry DM's for participating that's not what anyone normal would consider a reasonable response.

>>47911115
maybe nightwish? closest thing I can think of personally

>>47911176
yeah but we could be discussing any and there will be that edgey retard that always has to be a asshole to seem like a cool guy

>>47911461
It unironically is a struggle to make friends online while avoiding half the population. She wouldn't be constantly complaining about being lonely otherwise.

>>47911461
you guys had a schizo meltdown because she was in the same server as a male mod, who was gay

>>47911579
She actually didn't receive any DMs for that. The only thing she got where public Twitter posts stating they didn't like it. But then again I didn't expect you to know that.

Good to know some posters are so retarded they will believe "GRR I HATE FOREIGNERS" is a legitimate thing that was said unless told otherwise.

You know, perhaps the Keyfags wouldn't be so isolationist if there weren't so many people here trying to justify her collabing with men. You know how badly that sets them off.

>>47911461
>receive a DM from a male and the notification appears on-stream
>her "fans" melt down and cause the biggest drama of her entire career, nearly costing her everything
>enter a group collab with a single male
>her "fans" melt down and harass her in DMs
>exist in the same Minecraft server as a male
>her "fans" melt down
Completely normal and reasonable expectations from her fanbase. What could possibly be wrong with this?

>>47911774
Yes and no actually, some people didn't like it for sure but the vast majority of us where doom posting because we knew what was coming, i.e her meltdown over the schizos who couldn't keep quiet and see that it wasn't that big of an issue.

>>47911978
>don't try to help a woman in an abusive relationship because it will make the psycho boyfriend feel bad
good life advice

>>47911397
>posts bait on vsj+
>"hey none of us speak japanese can a keyfan please corfirm if this is true"
>"its members only content so no, also go fuck yourselves"
>rrat ensues
>start making fun of op so he posts it to catalog instead and makes it worse

its neverending

>>47911880
>She actually didn't receive any DMs for that.
Do you have access to her DMs?
Or are you just believing everything she says which coincidently always placates the unicorns?

>>47912052
>>47911909

>>47911980
>her "fans" melt down and cause the biggest drama of her entire career, nearly costing her everything

If you knew even a single thing about her, you'd know this wasn't done by her fans. But you don't, nor would you care to learn otherwise, given you've had more than a year to get your facts straight on this.

>>47911909
If the only foreigners you knew were in a constant state of schizo meltdown you probably wouldn't like them.

>>47911978
I think your mistaking making friends with collabing with men

>>47911978
That would imply people want them to mingle here in the first place, and I enjoy setting them off for being the schizo fucks that they are AND I hope some of them actually kills themselves in this whole ordeal

>>47911980
>>her "fans" melt down and cause the biggest drama of her entire career, nearly costing her everything
Actually, most of her fans were just super depressed and then started a hashtag showing her support. She was being harrassed by
>Junfag/Japanese Vtuber antis
>the faggots deranged fujos (who vandalized the Rushia bus because they hated her so much)
>Korekore's drama addicted fanbase
>literal normalfags and underaged
There's a reason Nazuna gets a lot less harassment: most of her antis don't even watch Vtubers.

>>47912113
>If you knew even a single thing about her, you'd know this wasn't done by her fans
Then how did it become such a problem for her?
Why did she care so much about what non-fans were doing?

>>47911980
I was gonna read but the first two lines of your post is bullshit, at this point everyone knows the driving factor of her doing what she did was directly to disprove any thought that she was going out with Mafu2, the reason she did this is because shipfags couldn't help themselves and started instantly shipping her with Mafu2.

>>47912095
This isn't a good defense at all buddy. You don't think people can have menhera moments and say something they don't mean? We literally had one of our own bring up leaving VShojo just this week during a menhera moment. It wasn't as bad as it sounded and things are fine now, but it doesn't mean it didn't happen. And I think it's safe to assume Mike is capable of menhera moments

>>47912149
The entire conversation was
>it's a shame she can't collab with men or else she could make more friends
so kindly fuck off.

>keyfag essays

What are you fags even arguing about? Shut the fuck up

>>47912226
>it was the shipfags' fault, not the fanbase that was literally buying wedding rings
OK

>>47912209
Because she, being a well-known figure on the internet, cares about her image and perception, even if it's to her detriment.

>>47911978
They should remain isolated and go back to their threads. Nazuna collabs with men in back alleys.

I can literally smell that mental illness from this thread

>>47912068
Are you high? Always placates unicorns? Fucking lmao. What are you implying anyways? You're exactly like the Taiwanese who use their mystical third eye to not believe a thing she says because "we know better and she's just doing it etc."

>>47912295
level 99 parasocialism

where is pet schizo when you need him, fucking useless bitch

>>47912209
She hates liars and she's dating her fanbase.
People spread a rumour saying she's dating some faggot. Of course she's going to want to stop that from spreading.
And you seriously cannot complain about her
>paying too much attention to her antis
while simultaneously asking why she should care about what non-fans think.

>>47912336
The fucking jiggly banana during this gif is so good

>>47912264
nah, I don't think I will

>>47912298
Her fans where just depressed anon, but they did wait for her side of the story. Only people who jumped the gun where the shipfags who instantly started spamming it and making art.

Nazuna joining was a mistake, unironically. She's too "complex" for VShojo.

>>47912209
My nigga this isn't even good faith anymore, even people who've never watched a Michael the Cat stream knows she pays too much attention to antis or anybody she perceives as antis.

Someone post that Rushia x Mafumafu wedding fanart

>keyfag complains about us taking bait
>spends evening getting one-guyed in our thread

>>47912365
hope you shit yourself while sleeping

>>47912244
There is no universe where that initial translation should have been believable. An average human being should not need someone to tell them it was fake. People here were all too eager and thirsty for drama whether it hurt her or not.

>>47912311
I don't see any other vtubers out here falling over themselves to dispel unfounded rrats from antis.

>>47912372
>Of course she's going to want to stop that from spreading.
All she had to do was say "no, that's not true."
It should have been an exceedingly simple fix, and yet...

Mouse chat patch notes 4/22/2023
>HUH emote changed from the turtle to the cat gif
>OK emote added
>WTF emote added

>>47912095
The thing that started it was a post of a 45 min private members only twitcast of Nazuna's alt saying Nazuna is done with VShojo. Combined with posts like >>47875011 earlier it is easy to wonder if it is bait or if she is legitimately upset with VShojo and wants to leave. So I think it reasonable to ask the keyfags if it is bait or not but they just vaguely say "sorry membership stream get fucked".

>>47912511
I am active now, have to get this schizophrenia out of my system somehow.

>>47912365
please turn off your computer or phone and go take a walk and rethink your life

>>47912568
I still say move all the Vshojo hug emotes to 7tv.

>>47912162
Please change and grow as a person

>>47912564
Do you see how retarded this girl is right? She finds a way to turn the simplest things into the most complex thing you'd ever see. She'd find the most retarded way to draw a straight line.

>>47912564
Yes, because telling the truth always makes people believe you. Of course it does.
People to this day still 100% believe she was dating the fag. The fag even put out a Tweet within 24 hours saying they weren't dating. Literally nobody believed him until that drama cunt Korekore did a stream confirming that they weren't dating. And even then, Kore's chat didn't believe him and were joking about him "covering for his friends". What level of delusion do you operate on?

>>47912699
I miss this moose bros...

What will be the thread reaction if Princess Vei also said she's done with VShojo?

>>47912630
It'll probably happen, didn't Mouse 'leak' a sheet that showed she was getting a full emote overhaul anyway?

>>47912765
i'm gonna pog

>>47912511
What do you wanna talk about? the nonexistence streams going on? please enlighten us oh great one

>>47912531
>should never have been believable
>sees people believe it
>makes no attempt to quell it
>blames people for believing it while never offering the simple statement of no it's not true

>>47912720
>Yes, because telling the truth always makes people believe you
Antis will never believe her anyway
In this thread, we know this better than anyone. Antis will perpetuate the same lie ad infinitum no matter how many times they get proven wrong.

There is absolutely no point in breaking your back trying to prove anything to them.

>>47912765
we'll celebrate

>>47912765

>>47912765
>also
Impossible
Nobody said that so there can be no 'also'

>>47912765

>>47912564
>telling the truth will make the antis go away

How new are you to all this?

Go away, keyfags.

>>47912765
she'll still be a +

>>47912472
She's borderline retarded, anon
Her fanbase on the other hand is next level schizo, yeah. Probably too much to handle for us

>>47912812
NTA but simply SHUT THE FUCK UP