/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

*dabs*

>>47795103
based

>>47795071
>Where have all the Gachikoi?

are you telling me all the redditors that support them don't buy stuff?

>>47795071
Double paizuri

>>47795071
Dunno about Kronii but Mori is def a millionaire by now from the Universal deal alone. I'm sure she doesn't give a shit either way.

Them advertising their merch isn't because people aren't buying it, you know. You could accuse them of being greedy and annoying. But then at least deadbeats can forgive Mori advertising at them constantly because she streams.

>>47795264
That's objectively wrong. She already told us how little money she makes.

>>47795264
>I'm sure she doesn't give a shit either way.
>Shilling blu-ray on reddit

>>47795103
fpbp

>>47795443
she has a place in america and a place in japan she is extremely wealthy. mori may have milked her fans dry but between roommate shit and mori stuff she is set

>>47795264
money from a huge label signing is literally like a loan that you recoup through making it back on music. mori's well-aware of this by now doubtless.

>>47795071
Almost like Kronii said something about her fanbase that was totally tone deaf

>>47795264
https://thebaffler.com/salvos/the-problem-with-music

You the sort of retard who looks at all the Coke ads and thinks “man they must not be selling well”. Except this doesn’t even cost them any money.

>>47795443
Didn't she make this chart when she was being retarded and thought she had to pay taxes in both the US and Japan?

>>47795886
Some anon who doesn't watch streams made this chart and people still post it for some reason when it was already outdated when it came out

>>47795103
fpbp

>>47795855
Literally this entire spew of word vomit is irrelevant. Did you even read it or just google “record label bad”?

>>47795944
So how much does a talent actually receive for superchats?

>>47796348
I have no idea, but guessing around 35%. Buy merch or memberships if you want to support the girls more directly.

>>47795264
>Mori is def a millionaire by now
look at this anon still thinking being a millionaire is worth going 'ooh sugoi rich!' in this day and age.

>>47795175
>Redditors being hypocrite

Damn who knew

>>47795071
Who cares about merch? Kronii beats Fauna in twitter engagement.

>>47795264
Giga cope. Mori is becoming increasingly desperate as her rapidly thinning flock of cuckbeats fails to meet the sales benchmarks her Jew masters at universal set.

>>47795071
>gachikoi
you keep using that word when you dont know what it means

>>47795071
You have the freedom to collab with whoever you want, and the unicorn has the freedom not to buy your stuff

>>47796490
>Buy merch or memberships if you want to support the girls more directly.
but then I won't get her attention

>>47795264
>being a millionaire
>with her spending habits
The only rapper aspect of rapper culture that she can emulate faithfully is burning through money like a retard. She's a hackfraud in every other aspect.
I can see her shilling shitcoins like other failed rappers after the hololive money dries up.

>>47798066
Noooo that's not how it's supposed to work! You're supposed to buy my shit regardless of what I do you pathetic incel freak!

>>47795765
>>47795886
I like how cuckbeats have to resort to using "my oshi is fucking retarded and doesn't actually understand the words coming out of her mouth" as an argument to defend a bunch of shit she said and did. Another example of this is "she doesn't know what lean is". And, "she didn't mean to leave Gura alone with strangers at a party".

Mori last said blu-ray sales were doing very well,

>>47798375
Mori also said she listened to Kiara's king cover over 50 times along with another plethora of easily verifiable lies.

>>47795103
Based

>>47795103
fpbp

>>47798444
She didn't. It was once. And they sang it together in karaoke after.

>>47795443
I’m on your side here but these numbers are retarded, this was made by a retard who doesn’t understand middle school math and percentages

For instance, youtube takes a 30 percent cut off the top leaving her with 70, then let’s say she’s taxed 30 percent… we don’t subtract 30 percent from 70, we take 30 percent of 70 (which is 21) and subtract that, getting us to 49. You’re supposed to take percentages of percentages, instead you just added them all together without any adjustments like a bonehead

>>47795071
Gee i wonder

>>47798533
https://streamable.com/eknk5y
Fuck off and die gaslightbeat. I got assloads of these if you want to lie like your oshi lies about her lies.

>>47797924
Please keep your retardation in /pol/, thanks

They all decided to listen to Ame's advice and improved themselves.

>>47798856
NTA but I never understood why some people here use that like it's some kind of gotcha. They have both joked about that moment on stream and even sang the song together. Are you being offended on Kiara's behalf?

>>47798885
>m-muh pol
go back to twitter if you wanna talk about trans rights and blm faggot

>>47795071
How do they get away with living in /vt/'s head without even paying rent?

>>47798451
Reddit is that way >>>/v/, dumb frogposter.

>>47796490
Not if 60% is going directly to a shipping company.
Considering both the manufacturer needs to be paid and cover is getting a cut of the profit I wonder what the actual percent going to a member is

>>47799179
>got called out for telling a fucking lie
>pivots to more lies

>>47798717
but but the pie chart is sleek and stylish, it has to be correct

>>47799473
Justo stop engaging with cuckbeats, they are no different than Mori herself and will lie openly and shamelessly.

>>47798066
>Based
Unicorns are the backbone of the vtubers industry

buy it or not she doesn't care

>>47795103
/thread

>>47799473
No seriously, why are you like this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGSyM2Dcv7M&t=774

>>47795782
I will never get over the "you dont have friends of the opposite sex?"
this girl really believes people watch her for her and not her model

>>47799870
>entire part about them laughing doesn't happen

>>47799826
Kronii has clearly not cared for this set of merch since it's release, as you would know if you watched the BD stream. But management is on her ass about it now.

>>47799888
That sweet slenderussy

>>47795071
Explain Suisei

>>47798444
So you don't believe that they are doing well?
What would change your mind?

>>47800076
Mori not getting completely mogged by holoID when overlapping.

>>47798245
I mean in that case it was true. She unironically though she was paying shitload of money for tax.

>>47800172
I don't think her streaming numbers matter in this case because people who would buy her BDs would be her hardcore fanbase which clearly watch her Persona streams.

>>47799826
Based, we don't need to buy it then.

>>47800190
So what you're saying is that your Oshi is a braindead dipshit retard with the cognitive abilities of a 10 year old with downs since this is your defense every time she does or says something stupid?

>>47800038
Talented singer with lots of normalfag fans

>>47800283
Not a deadbeat. I just remember that whole thing happening

>>47795886
She literally talked to her accountant the next day. She just believed something stupid her friend said. It was cleared up 2 streams alter.

>>47795870
OR the amount Suisei shills her stuff. Do they think she is doing badly too?

>>47800432
Management confirmed kronii and mori are losing money

>>47800432
Suisei doesn't struggle to get 3K viewers and get mogged by Kiara and HoloID.

>>47800566
don't you get tired of spamming this deflection every thread

>>47798066
Unicorns support with their wallets

>>47795071
>biggest breasts
>flops

>>47800614
>discussions is about Mori and Kronii shit sales
>talking about how Mori barely has viewers and this means her sales might also be shit is somehow deflection
Genius argument. Dipshit.

>>47795071
>Where have all the Gachikoi gone
AND WHERE ARE ALL THE GEEKS
WHERE'S THE THREAD-WISE REDDITOR TO FUND MY BALANCE SHEET?

ISN'T THERE A WHITE KNIGHT UPON MY TWITTER FEED?
LATE AT NIGHT I TOSS AND TURN
AND DREAM OF WHAT I NEED

I NEED A SUPA
I'M HOLDING OUR FOR A PAYCHECK I CAN TAKE TO THE BANK
ITS GOTTA BE BIG IT'S GOTTA BE RED
ITS GOTTA WAIT FOR NEXT STREAM TO HEAR "THANKS"

>>47795183
Based

There's a difference from Suisei doing her usual shilling shit she's done since long ago, to how Mori went to fucking reddit to advertise when she got fucking embarrassed by redditors downvoting her to hell a while back during the lean arc, and Kronii having her merch extended and apologizing to her manager on stream for the trouble she's caused them.

>>47798066
It turns out that the Homo audience doesn't buy merch

>>47801551
>Mori went to fucking reddit to advertise when she got fucking embarrassed by redditors downvoting her to hell a while back during the lean arc
I don't think anyone is claiming UMG aren't/were breathing down on her neck about bluray sales.

>>47801551
Those are clearly unrelated things you retard.
Even if management is forcing her to shill on stream because she does not care

>>47800283
NTA but yes

>>47795103

>>47800283
>your Oshi is a braindead dipshit retard
NTA, but that's a plus

>>47799888
It's a pretty telling mask-off moment revealing both her female conceit - she as a girl of course never had any problems lacking in people of the opposite sex approaching her to be her "friend", so she thinks that's how it works for everyone lol - AND her total lack of knowledge and understanding about the hardcore vtuber audience: Guess what, the people who get so invested in you that they donate hundreds or thousands of dollars to you and buy your overpriced shitty merch (but apparently they're not even doing that enough anymore, and you have to debase yourself to additional shilling lmao) aren't exactly the kind of guys who have many fulfilling relationships with females irl, or else they wouldn't be watching and donating to vtubers instead.

>>47800432
nta, but that's not the own you think it is. First of all, Suisei has always shilled all her stuff, so there's at least consistency, plus given how invested she is in being recognized for her music there is motivation. Kronii never shilled much, she was always the "I don't really care, I'm too cool for this shit" type, so her having to do an extra reminder "h-hey btw buy my merch plz..." looks very sus out of character at least (and it's not even some personal passion project like an orisong where you could understand her wanting it to do well, it's a run-of-the-mill standard shitty merch set), making it more probable that it's rather the company making her do it (and why? Well certainly not because her merch is already doing TOO well lol).

>>47799888
She'd be right to. Model barely matters

>>47799364
>NOT IF!!!
the girls literally said merch is the best way to support them nigga, else they would have said to sc more

>>47795071
Kronii already used up the best merch she could sell. The sandwich box sucks, the pillow is too fucking expensive, the clock and the scenario voice are ok.
Also shipping sucks (geekjack is ok)

>>47804189
As in they get a good cut of the profits but that does not account for shipping.
I mean with Kronii's shipping even if both the manufacturer and cover's cut are miniscule, which I doubt at least for the second part, she's getting <30% of what you're sending, before tax.
How is that better than supas?

>>47804424
These people are dumb as fuck don't try to reason with them

>>47799826
>she doesn't care
Just like her view on Hololive as a whole.

>>47803885
You keep telling yourself that clockcuck. Maybe one day it will be true!

>>47804889
You're right, look at that sexy ass!
>>47799974

>>47803885
Model barely matters when you have an appealing personality

>>47804189
Voice packs are the best way to support them. Buying physical merch is the worst way. $100 merch has like $200 shipping. Sending 3 $100 superchat gives them 3*$35=$105. Do you think if you spent $300 on a $100 merch, they will get 100% of that revenue and an additional 5 dollars?

>>47803422
Suisei and Mori talk a lot and Mori talks about how Suisei is giving her pointers on shilling her merch.

>>47804957
If it weren't for her model you wouldn't even be watching her clockcuck.

>>47800830
even /#/ thread doesn't try pushing that shit because in all the numbers they scrap Mori usually places right after Ina/Gura at worst

>>47805284
I fucking hate her model.
Her face is nice but everything else is garbage.
If she did not stream from the shoulders up the majority of the time watching her would be worse for sure.
At least the kimono outfit looks good.

>>47801551
Kronii was clearly apologizing about how she was playing catchup with her work backlog because she literally wasn't able to record for well over a month given her surgery complications.

>>47803422
>nta, but that's not the own you think it is.
it's exactly the own he think it is because you dumb human failures can't imagine someone can change their ways cause of a positive inspiration and not cause they got "punished"

>>47804424
>How is that better than supas?
Ask the girls next time, they keep saying merch>SC
>>47804485
>Not even a clip watcher
My fucking sides KEK

>>47805637
>they keep saying merch>SC
This was before the new fucked up shipping.
Now the girls are apologizing for it and talking about how they are looking into changing it.

>>47800566
That's not really a good argument for Mori since most of her audience came for her music, not her streams. It's why she has more views weekly/monthly than Kiara and all of ID. Besides, paypigs are a small part of the fanbase. Those 2-3K viewers that stick around for superchat readings and Persona 3 are the ones that will be buying all of her merch, especially something as expensive as the blu ray.

>>47805494
rumao. Yeah Kronii started shilling merch because she was "positively inspired" to "change her ways". You are one retarded nigger

>>47805784
I wonder what happened, why the extravagant increase on shipping costs?

>>47805494
Pretty positive

>>47805494
How does someone like you function in every day life? When you're approached by a homeless man asking for change for his sick wife do you actually give him money?

>>47806008
Pretty positive about what you retard?
You can't even form a coherent thought, nevermind an argument.

>>47806081
nice non sequitur, king of retards

Another deadbeat deflection thread?

>>47806112
Oh my bad, i didn't know i was talking to a retard, let me put it this way. See that humongous bar at the begining? that's the amount of merch one of her coworkers sold :D, and you see that ugly little blue bar??? well that's the amount of merch kronii sold!!! which is basically almost nothing for cover standards, now, they decided to extend the period for orders because??? yeah you guessed it!!! she didn't sell well!!! good job!!! which management most likely gave her an ultimatum on not being such a bitch because eveeyone shills their merch, even the high ranked holos!!!!

>>47806308
>gave her an ultimatum
Oh yeah? Like what?

Kronii doesn't shill merch in general and now because they designed shitty merch and the shipping was brutal she has to drag their nuts out of the fire?
What exactly are they going to do?

They told her to shill it, she does it because she's an employee and it's her job.
Sales will probably still be shitty and hopefully cover learns their lesson.

What exactly do you think will happen to Kronii?

>>47806457
Graduation

>>47806556
Hope dies last I guess

>>47795071
Kronii doesn't want to shill though.

Her birthday merch looks like shit, which is probably why no one is buying it. Seriously, a "burger box" it's just shitty plastic with a shitty decal on the lid. And there's acrylic merch #2838485757 but this time with a clock inside.

Fauna did the burger box thing too, and it also looks like shit. They couldn't make a cool bento like they have on Zon? One where the uniform and layed box has like clocks/natural motifs all around the exterior? No? Just shitty bucket lids with a jpg slapped on top???

>>47795103
holy zased. flippy blippy

>>47806696
Yet kronii's merch sold exponentially worse than Fauna's. You and this faggot >>47806457 need to keep coping.

>>47806843
Now compare their shipping costs

>>>47806556
>i don't like her
>she must graduate
Can't you fags watch one of the other girls instead and let the ones who watch Kronii enjoy her content?

Does she not have friends of the opposite sex to promote her merch though?

>>47806859
I eagerly expect to see no argument about how some numbers are critically important and others are meaningless and don't effect anything but instead just snarks about coping.

>>47806930
Vesper told her he'd promote it if she sucked his dick again, but her jaw was still shut

>>47806008
It's sad, I hope she learns from the hard way and starts respecting fans

>>47798066
Based unichad

>>47795071
No

>Mori's merch still goes well and still has gachikoi
>Bae's merch goes really well, still has gachikoi
>Kronii's merch doesn't go well, still has gachikoi
>All have collab'd with males
I have no idea why are you pinning this as some gachikoi flight because of muh male collabs when the other two don't experience it. It's easy to conclude the issue with Kronii is elsewhere and I conclude it's the stupid burger box.

>>47814167
Her whole set is pretty lackluster this year

>>47814167
If by "stupid burger box" you mean shipping that is far more expensive than the collective merch as a whole because of Cover's retarded deal with DHL, I'd agree with you there. I'm not disagreeing that the merch is a downgrade, but the main reason people continue to shitpost about her merch numbers is that she was the only one so far this year who didn't limited merch which definitely inflates initial sales presumably because she wasn't in a state to do all the card signing following her surgery once she was in Japan. If you remove the "trust me bro" sources on the supposed merch sales the numbertards peddle, the limited merch sets would be the primary thing they'd use to shitpost about

Geekjack likely got the higher percentage of the orders for her stuff this year compared to last because the shipping isn't nearly as bad there.

>>47800566
Mori's inclining. She's been getting about 5k since she started streaming at a more NA friendly time.

>>47817036
>Mori's inclining.
LMAO, Mori is leeching off Kronii for good reason.

>>47814892
i can't take out 3 hours of my time to sign cards, cause it'll eat into my time riding vesper's dick.
sounds right.

>>47817224
Her last SC stream has twice as many views as kronii's, clearly kronii isn't doing well. Or alternatively, this sort of analysis is just cherry picking.

>>47795264
This. She gives a "shit" because the moneygrubbing suits want le big number to always go up. It's her first experience with them so she probably takes them a bit more seriously than she should.

>>47795071
>kill your career my dude.

>>47805939
>Suisei Music focus - almost double the views
>Pekora Gaming focus - 5 million more views

>>47803072
Women are truly sheltered

They both still get disgusting amounts of superchats and gifted subs whereas someone that actually deserves it like Mumei gets barely anything

>>47821270
Be the change you want to be hooman.

>>47795103
you alright white boy.

>>47814892
Shut up Kronii, no one is buying your desperate spin. You're going down the shitter, right where you belong.

>>47817407
Nice cherry picking, Kronii's last super chat reading had more than this.

>>47820182
I used Kiara and ID in my example because they are the ones that were brought up in this argument. That being said, 4th most viewed monthly in the whole company and 1st in EN? Not bad

>>47823705
Not when you consider that those views are from songs, and YouTube pays by the ad. So long form content is what actually makes money and shorts are worth next to nothing. If you have shit CCV, weak superchats, and no one is watching your ads that’s not a good thing.

>>47819850
Nice Kronie cope.

>>47825272
>So long form content is what actually makes money
things literally no one on yt says for 500$, Steve

>>47801756
...Why did Mori think it did? They're quite obviously twitter troons with little interest in vtubing beyond ruining it for the chuds

>>47827575
He's not necessarily talking about those several hours videos, he's just talking about shorts vs proper content videos that can be like a couple of minutes to an hour.

>>47825272
You have to be a fucking retard to believe music doesn't make the most ad money for any channel. They have the advantage of people looping and putting them on playlists. No one is rewatching vods and ccv certainly does not correlate with profitability.

>>47804189
I mean Fauna herself has talked about it being a bad deal and she doesn't hold it against people who don't do it. It's really too much. I doubt JP fans would support like they do if they had to pay that level of shipping

>>47798856
I want since this is funny

>>47820182
>Suisei Music focus - almost double the views
>Pekora Gaming focus - 5 million more views
NTA but this kinda skewed against Mori considering both Pegora and Suisei's channels are older than her and therefore have more content thus more total
That fact she's basically RIGHT behind them despite the former having a 3 year head-start and the ladder having a 2 year head start is impressive

>>47795071
Yeah they cratered their careers, but they don't give a shit, and they won't learn from it. They will laugh it off and say they don't care.

>>47814167
Based burgerbox anti

>>47820182
vtubing is more popular in japan

>>47806008
>4Chan screenshot
>Spewing retarded rrats from here as fact
>putting it in the art tags
Hope you kill yourself

>>47795103
fpbp

All people here saying their merch has failed or that has not changed at all but nobody shows numbers

>>47795071
I still tune in occasionally to mori and I'll catch a clip of kronii every once in a blue moon, but they will never get a superchat from me ever again

i just can't be wasting my money on these kind of women, it's just stupid when i could be giving it to okayu or nene and get immediate satisfaction with no fear of drama

>>47795264
Anon she had a private breakdown with kiara a couple weeks back because of how terribly her numbers has been doing, she wanted to completely abandon rap and reinvent herself before kiara told her not to because it's the most unique part of her

Mori has also spoken at length about being fucked by both Japanese and American tax systems, she's getting barely 20% of her gross income

>>47799826
Surplus merch are going into a nippon landfill aren't they

>>47833656
You have outdated information

>>47833074
not him but you are blind and delusional if you haven't noticed the obvious effort mori and kronii have put in to be more parasocial in order to attract gachikoi

>>47833770
Kiara and Mori both spoke on stream about their talk and how Mori has been losing faith in her rapping?
Did Mori announce expatriation? Because outside that she will keep having the tax issues

>>47834156
Japan and the US have a deal so you don't have to pay double taxes

>>47801756
Holostar fans by a fuck ton of merch. It's fucking retarded that the jap faggaloons are trying to gimp their merch now when it's one of the best things they have going for them. Maybe they don't buy Kronii's shit, I don't know, I'm still convinced it's that shipping is fucking retarded on her merch. Mori's shit is selling fine last I heard but maybe it isn't who the fuck knows.

>>47827705
Twitter troons only like watching CGDCT like gura.

>>47800172
That ain't proof faggot. I need solid proof. I'm open to it doing shit, but I doubt mori would say it's doing good if she wanted to sell more units. She'd just be shilling without mentioning how well it was (or isn't) doing.

>>47814167
Fucking this, it's the retarded burger box and the retarded shipping costs. I ain't buyin this shit. I'm ass mad I missed out on the Daki, just fuckin re run that. I'll buy the daki in a heartbeat. I want them sweet kronii toes.

>>47833656
>Anon she had a private breakdown with kiara a couple weeks back because of how terribly her numbers has been doing, she wanted to completely abandon rap
It's a bit hilarious how threadreaders do this funny game of telephone where they progressively twist a thing that DID happen into a corrupted and weird version that DIDN'T happen
It wasn't "private", Mori herself has talked about this multiple times with her views before
It wasn't a "breakdown" they talked over dinner at a Mexican joint
It's not because of "her terrible numbers" it's because like 3 years~ of vocal coaching has improved her singing ability and she's confident enough to try singing pop and rock now
She's doesn't intend to "abandon rap" she just wants to try branching out into other genres instead of being forever pigeonholed as "the rapper"

>>47820182
You are trying to day 4th highest monthly views in the entire company is bad or something?

>>47834014
It's true. I mean, fuck's sake, Mori released an underwear 2D. That's smelly desperate.

>>47837016
It's common occurrence to see antis try to find a way to find label anything as bad

>other girls
>literally 1/5th the effort to maintain equal relevancy
Yeah. They're doing just fine.

>>47837180
Yeah, I noticed this "shilling your merch is bad" narrative being pushed hard started when Mori started to shill her blu-ray because she wants her next sololive to be better. Normal pink woman bad stuff I guess.

>>47834802
Don't taint Lamy by associating her with your retarded shit, cuckbeat

>>47838058
I'm okay with shilling.
I'm okay with shitting on parasocials.
I'm okay with pandering to parasocials.

But she needs to stop fucking pretending she still has any moral high ground here. That pisses me off above all other things. You fucked up? Great, whatever. You own it? Good, move along.
Pretend you're the fucking victim of some grand conspiracy and you're just """randomly""" and """unexplainably""" hated?
lol nah fuck off cunt

>>47838398
Bruh, what is the fuck are you talking about?

>>47838058
Mori spent the first year in Hololive courting as much controversy as she could and desperately trying to be the "Non-Holo Hololive member" and she's reaping the natural consequences from that.

Before a cuckbeat jumps in with their usual "lol u living in 2020 bro" cope, early impressions last a long time and it doesn't matter how desperate Mori is to try and climb back into the Holobox with JP collabs and sexy outfits, she's made her bed and gotten a reputation as the Homo friendly unityfag who wants more vshoujo shit and she's not going to shake it off any time soon.

>>47838585
Pretending or actual?

>>47838727
That post sounds like actual, not meme schizophrenic ramblings.

>>47838805
>schizo buzzword
(You)

>>47838961
ok, I guess you can't explain what the fuck you are talking about then.

>>47834156
She's an idiot who complained on stream without properly consulting her tax accountant. She is not being "double taxed" by JP and US govnt.

>>47838191
Don't pretend like you actually watch Lamy, or any fucking streams for that matter, catalognigger

>>47839051
There's a non-zero chance she's stupid enough to screw up her taxes.

>>47839139
This was explained in the thread already. Like many things on this board, they can't let go of stuff that was literally resolved in a few days almost a year later.
>>47800375

>>47839102
End yourself cuckbeat

>>47839428
>Stole some dude's pic of his membership
Actual pathetic desu

>>47834634
Have any Holos ever rerun birthday merch?

>>47833766
It’s made to order you fucking retard holy shit

>>47839296
Don't be so defensive. I don't stay on this website 24/7 and only watch Mori as a convenience when there are no other options. Sometimes not even then.

>>47795071
>Mori and Kronii advertising bad
>But it's based if it's Suisei

>>47841716
>sings well
>is japanese
>isn't a fat alcoholic
Yes

>>47795071
>>47798161
>>47795782
>>47801551
>>47803072
>>47804795
>>47804889
>>47805284
Ok so I got curious a while back and looked into things, and something made me confused
2 years ago, she was well versed in anime culture, she even had a high pitch voice that she could use
What the fuck happened? Does anyone know?

>>47842813
The other model?

>>47842377
>sings well
So does Mori
>is japanese
YWNBJ
>fat
Keep parroting that

>>47841716
see >>47801551

>>47844092
>There's a difference from [Headcanon]

>>47844092
>People shouldn't mimic a successful method..because uhhh....because I said so!!!
Strange logic
This is like trying to an argue a boxer shouldn't style their fighting style after Mike Tyson for an arbitrary reason despite it being effective

>>47844478
>>47844684
Yeah I can tell you guys are homobeggars who only check mixed collabs but haven't actually watched Kronii or Mori or Suisei to know how their shilling is forced because of pressure from the company.

>>47845153
>Doesn't address the point
>Non sequitur sperg out about homos
>Mentioning homos AT ALL as if Suisei hasn't also collabed with them
Bot tier post

>>47838398
Who shit on parasocials? Who thought she had the moral high ground? Who and what are you talking about?

>>47845546
"Talking with deadbeats makes one's brain dead." -Sun Tzu

>>47795103
The most correct post on /vt/

>>47845153
The Blu Ray shilling isnt even from the company, it's from UMG. She said it's "doing well" but wont stop until its actually out. Mori even mentioned that if you have to pick between her birthday merch or bluray, choose blu ray because its directly attached to her projects aka the scale and venue of her next live.

>>47845514
Because you literally have no idea who you are talking about? Kronii is absolutely humiliated in doing this, she keeps deflecting to management telling her she has to do it and apologizes during the stream on how badly she's doing. Mori has to guilt trip people on how she needs to sell enough blurays for a concert and goes to advertise reddit, neither of which Suisei has had to do before.

>>47846317
She already has a concert but more sales means extra perks or even a bigger venue. Stop making shit up.

>>47845514
Nice sample file name, fag. Did you download that image right now to try to convince people you aren't a homobeggar or are you just a newfag?

>>47846317
>Kronii is absolutely humiliated in doing this, she keeps deflecting to management telling her she has to do it and apologizes during the stream on how badly she's doing. Mori has to guilt trip people on how she needs to sell enough blurays for a concert and goes to advertise reddit, neither of which Suisei has had to do before.
This would've been pretty cool argument if you bothered to subsidized it with facts rather than your own headcanon and vibes

>>47846841
nta but the kronii part is objectively true dumbass.

>>47846840
>Nice sample file name, fag. Did you download that image right now
I trying to reverse a search a porn pic of Suzy on gelbooru, saw that, thought it was funny and posted it here. It's not that deep, sister
>you aren't a homobeggar
Hey touristchama, mind explaining to me how exactly I'm a "homobegger"? I know your catalognigger friends just taught you this buzzword they've spammed to the point where it has no meaning, but surely you can point to the collab I begged for since you keep confidently calling me that

>>47801551
>redditors downvoting her
Based

>>47846841
Maybe actually watch their streams and buy their merch so that they don't have to debase themselves like this. Here homobeggar, il link you to a clip since I know that you guys can't be bothered to watch streams: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6q2mwDtTGEc&pp=ygUOa3JvbmlpIG1hbmFnZXI%3D

>>47843474
>le tonedeaf chubbychaser cuckbeat
You're a living stereorype, all you're missing is applying for a janitorial position in /vt/

>>47847446
Calling everyone they don't like a homobeggar is catalognigger cope. It's equivalent to screaming tranny at anyone you don't like in pol. Instead of a race war, everything has to be about dicks for some reason.

>ITT Suicucks coping about how their oshi is totally different and better than Mori and Kronii

>>47847712
Based retard
Thanks for linking a clip where she's talking about hitting project deadlines on time, and is entirely irrelevant to the conversation we're discussing

>>47847740
>tonedeaf
t. retard who never actually gave Mori's songs a try
>chubbychaser
Keep outing yourself, schizo

>cuckbeats picking a fight with mikometchads now
They really are the cancer of Hololive, all chubbychasers seem weirdly confrontational with huge chips on their shoulders

>>47848861
>mikometchads
Based schizo, NEVER stop fighting the ghost in your head, you'll win one day!
You're literally the 1st post ITT to mention Miko

>>47847446
>I-Im not a homobeggar really!
>newfag! tourist!
Someone felt called out. Calm down. Take a deep breath and next time change your filename when you pretend to not be a homobeggar.

sad schizo calling out his own "war", the false flag was not that subtle

>>47847759
>bringing up pol out of nowhere
Holy rent free. You homobeggars just can't help yourself.

>Even with all these "yab" Mori is still the most relevant music focused holo
Must've really mindbroke all the schizos that they made up their own war now

If I could I would plant several kilos of cocaine in Mori's apartment and call the cops on her.
Termination and jap jail.

>>47850641
BASED
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but with her height and weight she'd be running the jail in no time

Most mentally stable and well adjusted Mori antis

>>47852561
>officer subaru, the coke is mine actually
kwab

>>47795071
Look op, now I find these 2 as distasteful as the next guy, but don't you think you're making these threads too often?

>Cuckbeats have been bumping this thread to white knight their garbage rapper for 18 fucking hours

>>47850641
she's fat in japan, that's already a crime

I like how being fat is all her antis can say about her nowadays. It's like elementary school level of insult.

>>47855187
yeah fat

fat with my children that is

>>47839102
based

>>47803885
If you could go back in time and swap Gura and Kiara's model, Gura would still likely be in first place for subs from HoloEN (with about ~1 million fewer subs), but Kiara would be at least 3rd place.

>>47795071
Better vtubers?

>>47854319
It's hilarious because their arguments are "yeah her numbers are now worse than Kiara's and HoloID. But every number you and me don't have access to is super high. Trust me."

>>47854319
>>47858424
Seems more like trolls trolling trolls than actually this thread having any real deadbeats.

>>47858424
But you are just talking about her streaming numbers which she clearly doesn't care or otherwise she wouldn't be spamming Persona 3 streams.

>>47858785
>I'll never play minecraft again, I hate the game
>nevermind I need those Gura group collabs

>>47795103
lmao

>>47858819
Love me shork. Stronk.

>>47795103
AYO

>>47795103

>>47858819
Well she says that but I doubt there will be minecraft streams.

>>47858819
>"I'm willing to a play a game that all my friends play so we can have fun interacting, despite me not really liking said game"
>Anonymous paranoid schizo on veetee decided that's BAD because you're sceretly lex luthor and a thousand and one ulterior motives
?
Have you never had friends who's interest don't align with your before?

>>47859484
Really telling that she's the only one that doesn't want to do solo builds. I'm sure it's about her "friends".

>>47859532
>Really telling that
Not really lmao she's verbatimly stated she doesn't like the game, but you keep phrasing your post and posting screenshots of her tweets like you've caught her in a le ebin loophole/being hypocritical when her intent is laid bare
She doesn't like ApeSex Legends either, but she'll still play it if Mel or Ollie ask for a collab

>>47834802
Notorious BIG and Tupac never had to branch out. Because they were actually good at what they were doing. and because they were gunned quite fast too.

>>47860286
Are you unironically comparing BIGGIE and TUPAC to a virtual idol? lmaoooooooooooooooooo
>never had to branch out
They kinda did desu they stuck rap but their styles changed massively throughout their careers
Compare: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhVjYtFEG6w
To: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGj2RBRltEM

>>47859808
So she's a leech?

>>47861306
>"I want to hang out with my friends"
>Errrrrrrrm so YOU'RE LEECH!?!?"
Most well socially adjust /vt/ poster

>>47855808
No proof

>>47860286
Mori shouldn't have branched out. Her early EPs are better than anything she's made since

>>47859808
You're just proving my point because she took part in that twitch rivals shit for noombers.

>>47862708
What the fuck are you even talking about? She doesn't even stream on twitch

>>47858819
I dont believe anything she said after she send death treat to kiara no friend will do that

>>47862742

>>47858819
>>47861691
If they were friends, wouldn't they have invited her? Why couldn't she joined them in the most recent collab?

>>47863382
Mori probably knows she is shit at minecraft and didn't want to ruin their witcher hunt.

>>47854319
It's more funny that they're still trying to deflect onto Kronii. So much for helping out Mori's latest 'bestie'

>>47864907
When did deadbeats turn into this boards boogeyman?