/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>4766884
>What went wrong
OP Being a faggot
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTXgCF-Ezyk&t=9892s

>>4767105
>All the stuff I do behind the scenes I do for Hololive
But we already know this bitch was skipping streams to tour with Fake Type. Mori lying her ass off? Wow how unexpected

She showed so much promise..
Sad to think it took such a dark turn so fast..
What happened to debut Mori? She was a lot nicer..

Her fans babied her too much and never gave her shit when she fucked up. Now they are just ATMs.

>>4766884
t. Deadcucks trusting Mori

>>4767201
She constantly lies
>Oh yeah haha I totally have senpais I want to collab with I just coincidentally can't name any, can we please change the topic?
>Oh yeah haha I totally have hololive songs I like, I just coincidentally can't name any... Uhhh.. Uhh OH YEAH HINOTORI, the one song I know, is clearly the best! (Thank god Kiara reminded me it exists)
>I don't collab with JP's because Cover doesn't allow it when I ask! No wait, I don't collab with JP's because I'm too shy to ask in the first place!
>Yes Kiara I listened to your King cover it was great... Wait what do you mean it doesn't exist??
>Actually Kiara I TOTALLY watched the original song you made for me a long time ago, you see I just PRETENDED to not have watched it for... reasons. (This has nothing to do with the fact that I got chewed out by everyone for being a huge piece of shit, no no)
>I'm gonna continue DOOM when I get a PC, no wait, I'm gonna continue DOOM next year, no wait, I'm gonna continue DOOM next year in Summer, no wait...
>I'm gonna sing Godzilla at 1m subs

>>4767397
>Yes Kiara I listened to your King cover it was great... Wait what do you mean it doesn't exist??
That's just sad man. Kiara didn't deserve this
https://streamable.com/t2985s

>>4767105
>All the stuff I do behind the scenes I do for Hololive

Isn't she going on tour with Fake Type in a few weeks?

>>4767466
This fucking hurts to watch man

>>4767466
I hate Kiara and even I felt bad for her after hearing that. Wtf Mori....

She's finally learned what other e-girls have known for some time. Just be cute and simps will defend your every action.

>>4767105
OP got BTFO in the first reply kek

>>4767514
You don't get it anon, she's doing it for Hololive.

>>4767639
She could make a million songs a year and it still wouldn't excuse the fact she phones in all her collabs except the ones where she gets to talk with her little clique of irl friends.

>>4767736
>She could make a million songs a year and it still wouldn't excuse the fact she phones in all her collabs except the ones where she gets to talk with her little clique of irl friends.

Kiara on suicide watch

>That time Mori was ask in one of her first streams who she wanted to collab with in Hololive
>She ended up saying she wanted to collab with lesser known indies instead

>>4767397
This reminds me of when the deadbeats accused Kiara of lying when she said Mori overslept a lot of collabs and Mori went full on defensive "uuhh uhh actually it was only once, I swear"

>>4767624
Hell you don't even have to be an e-girl. Spoony has been irrelevant for years and years and hes still getting 300 a month on patreon

>>4768076
She said she wanted to collab with one of the IDs, mispronounced their name, and then finally said Suisei when the chat kept spamming her name.
I think Mori is alright and I like her songs, but I wish she would care a bit more about the rest of the Holos.

>>4766884
You could argue Ayame is like this but worse

>>4768543
No reason to care since everyone will defend her actions anyway. She's too big to fail, as long as she doesn't push the envelope too much.

>>4768561
vt already meme her as lazy whore all the time tho

>>4767466
>https://streamable.com/t2985s
>Kiara's pain was visible
I don't want to believe the rrats since I don't watch HoloEN but that's gotta hurt

Please for the love of got can you incels stop making threads about how your oshi betrayed you for having irl male friends.

>>4766884
>What went wrong?
Literally nothing, she was always pretty transparent, if you've been around the block she always gave off the same gross vibes as all the thot streamers on Twitch.

Please for the love of god can you incels stop making threads about how your oshi betrayed you for having irl male friends.

5% Your boy
95% built to worship my cock

>>4768921
literally no one is complaining about that

>>4767466
Goddamn, I hate the shitbird but at least she cares enough to know about her coworkers and puts in effort as misguided as it may be at times.

>>4767466
Man, I was against Mori until I've seen this clip like 5 times. Making me like kiara and disliking Mori, this is truly powerful.

>>4768764
This. Mori's treatment isn't particularly bad, people have gotten shit on harder for less, the only difference is that there's a board for it now and her fanbase is more vocal about defending her than people have been for any vtuber shit in the past.

>>4767466
Maybe I was too hard on you, chicken.

The reason why there are so many shitters today is because a US senator went to Taiwan. Chinks are sperging across the world right now.

Death to China d

>>4769081
Mori gets shit on for a couple days and the deabeats act like its the end of the world.
Meanwhile KFP/Zombrades have been getting shit on for months lol

>>4769583
They would have never survived November
Or they just have bad memories of it

>>4769479
My hate for Kiara is still the same, but my hate for Mori is now tenfolds worse. My hate for Kiara has stemmed for her faking her voice and being too hyper, and pity partying constantly. But I do believe she likes Hololive and wants to be a vtuber. Mori tho. Nah.

I’m 100% sure she’ll be on her best behavior today. Management knows she’s on thin ice atm. They’re probably grilling Mori right now and telling her to just make this collab good to keep the rrats off.

>>4768080
>>4767466
Maybe... just maybe... all the retarded onstream things that Kiara did which anons hated were advised by Mori. Kiara is known to be desperate for friends and even clingy. Innocently taking her "best friends" advice seem very much like her. Except Mori was deliberately feeding Kiara shit for her own self interest. It's like Hitler trusting Anglos all over again...

>>4767466
I don't know why people are responding to this like it wasn't mori trying to play along with the joke of a cover that doesn't exist

>>4769880
because it is a similar response she gives when kiara asks about her actual songs and covers

>>4767105
I LOVE MORI!!!!!

>>4769779
I doubt it, management doesn't do shit

if management allows this kind of behavior nothings gonna change. or it's probably their vision of how holoEN should be in the first place.

>>4769880
>actually believe that mori cares

>>4769723
I mean if that's your criteria you should hate almost every holo member, it's very hard to find one that doesn't fake their voice for streaming. That's just kind of part of performing--I like a lot of their more casual voices than their faked ones, but it is what it is. Just look at even normal people doing Youtube videos, the "performance" voice and act is much more hyped up than someone just chatting with friends.

>>4769880
Didn't sound like she was joking to me.

>>4769976
Nothing wrong with that, holoJP collabs with 3d male celebs all the time and people don't give them shit over it

>>4767514
yeah, she wants to tour with her actual band she cares about instead of these weeb anime girl pretend songs

>>4770081
idk what are you talking about >>4768983

>>4767466
Kiara... I'm sorry... Kfpbros, I put you higher than before now for being loyal to this chimkin

>>4769955
Wouldn't it be more effective to clip one of those times?

Seems like she'll ditch the vtuber thing at any moment. To each there own, but I think she should show some more effort and care towards her fellow holos

>>4769880
>it's just a joke!

>>4769723
Part of the reason for Kiara being "hyper" is that she's the single extrovert in her gen. She feels the need to make up for dead air because she feels pressured by the thousands of people that are watching her. Kiara is way more mellow and bearable in her solo streams because she doesn't come off as rude when she isn't surrounded by people who can't meet her energy. Surprisingly, her best collab partner is Ina, because Ina is just introverted instead of being extremely autistic, and they play off each other perfectly well with one of them being deliberately terrible and the other being perfect (see their recent Cats watchalong, for example). Gura comes in second because she's often just following along what Kiara does and at times she can meet her energy. Outside HoloEN her collabs are actually great because she's doing it with people that are way more comfortable with their job.

But Mori is by FAR the worst collab partner for Kiara, she's tone deaf, stubborn and couldn't play along to save her life. You can see Kiara trying to set things up for her constantly and Mori just straight up failing to respond.

>>4767466
> totally not scripted

>>4766884
I blame her findom gachis for enabling her. She realized she can put in the bare minimum and make bank; I cant hate her for that.

>>4766884
"Despite only being 5% of the HoloLive scene, Deadbrap makes 95% of the Yabs"

-Fartreto Principle

Someone post the streamlabs with the 5%.

>>4767201
>>4767514
So? She still does Hololive stuff behind scenes.
And that tour is like two day thing and its over after that.

>>4767105
Lol, fuck the guy who clipped that without the "for the hololive' part
Fucking manipulative bugman

>>4767466
Mori is actually an asshole what the fuck

>>4766884
She's from the American underworld, it was destined to happen.

This is the last chance Im giving her, if she doesn't show up with the same enthusiasm and energy that she had with gigguk Im unsubscribing and never watcher her again

>>4766884
When you already paid too much for a Tier membership and superchat, it’s hard to get out of the shit pit
I anderstand deadbeat

>>4772940
See you next Tuesday

>>4767466
Maybe i was too hard on kfp bros i hate cali even more now

>>4772940
She'll 100% bring her A-game. Cover knows she's on thin ice, they just need Mori to act like she's interested for a week so that the deadbeats won't doubt this fucker.

>>4773000
Im dead serious. I went from watching ALL her streams during her first months to maybe watching one stream a week in the past 3 months. The Mario Party stream will be decisive for me

>>4773029
She's not on thin ice, sperg, you're not important

>>4767201
Based, fake-type way cooler than holoshit.

>>4768076
Based.
Indies are the best

>>4771244
I could see ina/Kiara being a good manzai duo.

>>4773256
So I'm not the only one. It's been tough, hasn't it?

When did you stop, deadbeat?

>>4767466
I wont shitpost on kiara anymore
forgive me kiara I just make it for fun....

>>4767466
jesus I've been missing some cringekino by exclusively watching the EN trinity and JP

>>4767466
Kek thats me responding to my coworkers right there

>>4769880
holy cope

>>4770086
Fucking based.

>>4772940
Mori probably brought on Coco and Ollie cause they'll do all the talking.

>>4772940
How fucked will she be if she blows this collab?

>>4772594
This whole thing is just a zhang psyop.

Literally 29 threads a day on moro. Even during ollies collab this wasnt nearly as much

>>4773256
I don't know about you but i have enjoyed all her streams on May expect SV for obvious reasons.

>>4773413
My interest on her declined hard after she came back from her vacation with kusotori. She started half assing her streams and repeating the same mistakes she did the previous year
>>4773513
Not at all. Remember that us deadbeats from 4chan make like 0.003% of her audience. The normalfag yesmen will eat it up

>>4766884
https://youtu.be/xibk-XDX-Oo
what the fuck happened mori? you were so....
you used to be.....
this wasnt a lie in this video, you meant it here. there is no way you were lying here. so why are you like this now? what happened?

>>4772498
If she can prep for fake types tour then she sure as hell can prep for other holomem streams but that isnt the case now deadbeat is it ?

>>4773690
Ego

>>4773631
Yeah and even the majority of you guys are yesmen too.

>>4773690
Dadfags disrespected their oshi too much and now reap what they sowed.

>>4773513
IF she blow this collab you can expect a full video compilation of her being a disinterested dead weight in past collab with her "friends" and being a exited giggling girl when collab with a manlet. Might even translate it too.

>>4767466
This knocked me the fuck out and put me in a coma

>>4773917
You won't do anything. Screencapping.

>>4772282
"Despite only being 5% of the HoloLive scene, Deadbrap makes 95% of the copes"

>>4773690
Initial high wearing off and reality settling in. I hope she graduates because it would be better for everyone and especially her if she stopped trying to force the vtuber thing when she doesn't enjoy it.

>>4773917
kek, if anyone bothered to translate just the q&a clip where she disrespects all of holo jp, she'd be getting beaten by management right now, but no one here will ever be japanese to do it

>>4766884
it’s simple really. it’s called narcissism.

>she is very narcissistic and unpleasant to be around. every action she does is in order to feed her huge ego, if she was ugly irl she would have zero fans
examples are her “rapping”, for someone to be so proud of something so easy to do is a trait of narcissism. every 16 year old on reddit can rap just as mundane as her.

>her character has zero theme or anything unique, and is how she actually she sees herself in real life therefore all of the transparency
mori takes every oppurtunity to talk about herself which is why she keeps her persona very transparent. she does not care about her fans, she uses them as an outlet to express her very warped narccistic point of view into a reality

>petty unneccesary gaslighting towards other vtubers as well as being extremely offended only at criticism towards personality
this is a big one and one of the biggest arguements and signs as to why she is a terrible / narccistic vtuber. it would take a whole thread to document all of these moments.

>Mori now

>>4773690
She wants more. She is bored with holo, she wants to collab with shitty ecelebs and do her *art*. She is such an *artist*, hololive is so childish and ugh.. why does she have to put up with that? Maybe she'll call in sick with the Coco and Ollie collab, who cares about playing some shitty games anyways.

>>4773997
>better for everyone
EN will be in shambles, the other girls are fragile as fuck if they lose their co worker

>>4766884
>Listen I can only give a shit about you fags for 5% of my day, be grateful I even give you guys that much time. Oh, Gigacuck is calling, sorry guys ending stream now
Dangerously based

>>4773954
https://youtu.be/D9TfqrnrT7c?t=4083
https://youtu.be/5Bvyh1viEIU?t=3697
https://youtu.be/G3zAKMFfilM?t=1655
https://youtu.be/kQaSVmFA7NE?t=1434
https://streamable.com/t2985s
https://streamable.com/9cbgcr
Try me, 5% she have that chance to clear her and your name. Don't fail it.

>>4769815
It's the other way around kfpfag. Kiara is just that dumb, but hey she genuinely passionate about vtubing, idol, and hololive.
Kiara was the one keeping tap of mori to not go off the rail. Now she's gone, Mori's going to hang out more with those anitubers cosntantly shitting on her deadbraps, hololive and it's idol while sucking on their dick

>>4774143
Dangerously based

>>4767466
This made me cringe my guts out

>>4772594
https://youtu.be/xTXgCF-Ezyk?t=2192s
>states openly that hololive is 5% of your life
>2 hours later start backpedalling when u realize ur shitting on ur own paypigs

>>4774161
So are you saying she is getting influenced by her "friends"?

>>4772940
Nah she'll be find in this one, Coco will initiate the conversations and ollie will keep the energy high with whatev cringe shit she'll came up with. Calli will just has to follow the rhythm, ez as it gets.
We can only judge after this collab, since im sure she'll do her best to not mess this one.

>>4774143
Lmao, do you think your video will make rounds? You're 5% video has less than 2k views. These rrats are entirely schizoid and you're not important LMAO

>>4773917
Based

>>4774273
I recall some of you said that about this too.

>>4774221
You fucking idiot. She said streaming is 5% of her day and not whole hololive.

>>4774143
Based schizophrenic.
I'll be laughing on the sidelines whatever the result may be.

>>4774266
It will be so hard to fuck up this one. If she does, I will be astounded.

>>4774266
A couple of naruhodos and laughing. That’ll be enough for the deadbraps to consider it a good stream.

>>4774343
Yeah, and then Kiara collabed with Veibae and nothing ever came of your sperging. Boomers coming to 4chan thinking it's still influential makes me laugh.

>>4774367
her roommate is touring with her roommate music anon.... she is also one of the biggest doxfags for herself. she unironically dislikes hololive. you cant argue against this. you think touring only takes up 5% of her time? think, I know it sucks but its just how it is. I used to be a deadbeat too, seriously.

You people are legit mentally ill.

>>4774442
You say that like you didn't just look up this website, clicked on this board, and clicked on this thread just to type that. I think there is someone far worse here and it's (You)

>>4774427
They didn't collab. Anon, your antipsychotic meds?

>>4774427
so true anon, I love when in the nyanners vei kiara and gura collab they literally said "so I know you hololive dont have the balls but FUCK those /vt/ niggers", the holo's flustered like fuck but in the end they thanked them on twitter for doing what they were too scared to do.

>>4774512
Ignore that bait. Fandiscord came here trying to damage control all the time by saying that this side don't matter.

>>4774512
Kiara, Veibae, and some other vshoujos did a twitch collab. Or did you not know because your handler didn't tell you?

>>4774432
>her roommate is touring with her roommate music anon
Yeah like two day thing and it ends there because Fake Type will stop existing after that.
>she unironically dislikes hololive. you cant argue against this
Yes i can. She is having two collab songs with her senpais and like she said she does a lot shit behind the scenes she just can't talk about it. What is it? I don't know but i hope we will know someday.

>>4774581
Did you even watch that event? They didnt even collab. Kiara only collabed with a bunch of kraut nobodies and a twink catboy. What the fuck are you even talking about?

>>4774588
you still belieb the "im just busy with hololive stuff"?
they have been active for 8 months now. the only "hololive stuff" they ALL have done is a fucking country roads cover. take your meds

>>4774031
> the q&a clip where she disrespects all of holo jp
Where and when? Doesn't even need the timestamp, just tell me which video.

>>4769880
>b-being an uncaring bitch is a joke! i-its funny!
sorry 5brap. not fooling me

>>4774617
Being "busy with hololive stuff" is the new "health problems" and "going on vacation." Nobody believes it anymore even when it's true because lying whores use that shit as an excuse for taking personal time off.

>>4774581
retard

>>4766884
how do dead beats hear they only matter 5% and not unsubscribe to someone who puts in more effort?

>>4774617
what about cloudy sheep and holo alt?

>>4774047
Well, get started then. I wanna hear more.

>>4774617
>take your meds
You are the one who should take his meds.
And if you would actually watch the fucking streams you would know that she has done a lot stuff mostly music related.
Of course we don't know what she is doing because she so secretive about it either because Cover said to keep it down and she wants to hype things up when ever something new happens.

>>4767466
Oh fuck is that what this meant? I thought Kiara did a members karaoke King cover or something

>>4774631
https://streamable.com/t2985s

>>4774631
>>4774830
https://youtu.be/G3zAKMFfilM?t=1655 whoops wrong link

>>4774780
holo alt was done in the span of a couple days, she literally said this, that she didnt even really know what the vocals were for.
cloudy sheep is perhaps the only thing I can say maybe she put effort into, but definitely not enough to warrant how much she boasts about being a workaholic.

speaking of watame, you know how hard SHE works?
always putting out HOLOLIVE RELATED music, hosting the watame song show I forgot what its called from a year ago, arranging big song collabs that get hololive tens of millions of views....
watame never once said something like the 5% thing, because watame is actually just mori but 100x better.


but yeah anon, good point. cloudy sheep must have took A LOT of work, I can see why mori is mind broken after it.

>>4774817
Let's be honest here. A lot of the Hololive girls are always busy. A lot prepare for concerts that has to take multiple lessons in one day. They also do hologra voice submission, NND, outside collabs, radio shows and streaming too. Let's take Matsuri as an example. She was busy preparing for Gen 1 concert while also doing a tournament while also dropping covers while also streaming 1-2 times everday. Even doing twitcast as well. Does she complain and tout 5%? Haachama was the only one who is technically not active during these weeks of preparation because she probably have Uni as well. All of them say they are busy but none say so with this set of words. Mori has always been very bad with her words.

>>4774911
why are cumbuds always based?

>>4774918
Nene for one is going to do 2 concerts this month alone. Did VA work for a game. She always streams. Even does a ton of collabs. Always pushes hard to show up even when we know she's tired. When she takes break to visit her family, we actually feel glad because she overworks herself. Mori can complain. Sure. Just use better words.

>>4774911
im not defending mori, I just want to be factual

Watame's song show was called watame no uta and I love watame so much it hurts

>>4774858
That is not her disrespecting jp, just her being a fucking autist.
Can't even IMAGINE herself collab with her Senpai. Fucking chicken had to chime in "In Hololive pls" for her and she still can't think about it. Please stop babying your oshi and let her grown.

>>4772940
lol, she has like 5 collabs coming up, she's on red alert. give it a few weeks and she'll be back to not giving a shit

>>4774911
Watame is extremely emo with regards to her real life situation she should just be a rap idol. It suits her to a tee.

>>4768076
>Mori mentions an indie ONCE
>deadcucks add them to her "extended universe" even tho those indies have been active years before Mori.

>>4774427
mandelaschizos...

>>4774858
To be fair, that isn't disrespectful to JP members. The first 10mins of that collab was painful to watch tho.

>>4769880
Shut up 5% cuckbrap

>>4768561
I don't speak Japanese.

>>4769880
Kiara plays along with the "stay away from me Kusotori" gags but this one actually seemed like it did mental damage so I dont think it was them joking around

>>4774911
So you don't count her second EP and a new Roki cover something she put effort into?
And like i said there is a lot things happening behind the scenes we don't know yet but for some reason nobody believes that she does.

What would make you believe that she does hololive stuff outside of streaming?

>>4774273
>5%ers care more about how popular the anti video is than about how valid the criticisms are
Fanbase really does reflect the celebrity huh

>>4775181
Why is Takamori still going on? Feels kinda like watching an abusive relationship unfolding on stream ever since Takamori Q&A from several months ago.

>>4767466
Chimkin i.....

Takamori is shit

>>4775332
kiara kinda has to keep it up to appease yuri fans. maybe she can try to build something with the other girls gradually so she can jump ship

>>4775332
Ive always had the feeling it was abusive since day 1 but figured it was intentional as an ongoing gag they planned behind the scenes

>>4775421
She tried planting the seeds before but it seems like she wouldn't go all in on one ship like with takamori again and would just do the occasional yuribait flirting with the other en

>>4774273
Why does deadcucks act like this?

>>4773690
This is going into schizo territory, but I unironically think the TT crew is influencing her. Not straight-up grooming her or whatever, but knowing what Connor thought about Hololive (and what Veibae thought about Hololive) she might have bought into the whole idol culture narrative. She might be starting to think her new fans are gonna be keeping her down.

>>4775460
Kinda hard to view it as a gag when Kiara for whatever reason didn't even translate the answer of that one mashimaro question a JP fan asked on their Takamori Q&A a few months back about why the atmosphere in Mori's collab with Kiara is very different (as in meaner) than Mori's collab with anyone else.

>>4775332
it was planned in the lore, and mori even put it in her first song. its in too deep, they cant just drop it now.
just like the pekomiko thing which the rabbit is now stuck with because theres official hololive song about it and a bunch of official stuff, despite all rape jokes aside, they clearly had some kind of falling out.

not to sound like some BTS twitter tween but its what happens when you ship real people.

>>4775731
its not really schizo territory, youtubers are always doing the "we need to talk about this" shit. the indie vtubers on twitter are building up to this, and of course vshojo specifically vei but the others too with the "im going to break the mould!" act they have

>>4767265
She was always phoney, she just doesn't need to put in as much effort anymore

>>4773690
Pay attention to the livechat, fuck the lot of them.
https://youtu.be/F_nv-hpwaD8&t=1794

>>4774143
>https://youtu.be/kQaSVmFA7NE?t=1434
God, I can't fucking watch that. The sheer fucking silence of it and her just saying nodding to anything he says. Rikka doesn't fucking deserve that.

>>4775784
>just like the pekomiko thing
I'm a 35p. Pekomiko is kinda gone though other than official cover-instructed collabs. Miko never talks about Pekora either on her member-only streams.

>>4775731
>This is going into schizo territory, but I unironically think the TT crew is influencing her
This is definitely what's going on. Mori is hanging out with Gigacuck irl and that means he's probably indirectly pressuring her to join vshojo given he has a big stake in it.

>>4773690
Pay attention to the livechat, fuck the lot of them.
https://youtu.be/F_nv-hpwaD8&t=1688

>>4775731
Well it is either TT crew or her old rapper friends that now are suddenly hanging out with her again.
Mori is just too naive for her own good and can't see that they are using her now that she is popular.
Unironically Kiara was the one who kept those faggots aways from her but now that she is gonna they are back to leeching of her.

what are the chances of hatefuck porn getting drawn after this? her design would really go to waste otherwise

>>4774143
DO IT FAGGOT!!

>>4775906
Check the chat in the link I posted, her fucking fans are begging her to collab with Connor and the rest of the Trash.
>>4775916
Either they are all plants/shills or Cuckbeats isn’t a joke.

>>4775925
Unironically since Kiara left, many things changed.
Time ago in this board I was seeing many people calling Mori "based" and good in general

>>4775906
Gigguk is a vshojo owner?

>>4774084
As gremlin as Ame looks, she has what it takes to be a leader and so is Kiara. When the shit hit the fan, you can expect Kiara to be the one tanking the outside and Ame keep together inside. Ina is being Ina. Gura is the worrisome one as she hates drama blown out proportion the most but i guess she'll just shut her 5senses and pretend it didnt happen.

Hopefully she joins Vshojo and takes the Dadfags with her.

>>4775982
>90% of them are greyniggers.
I don't even count them as a deadbeats.

>>4775916
>"I want to have more vtuber friends!"
You know, I want to think this means people in Hololive, or even indies. But I know she means Vshojo.

This is why NijiEN is unironically a blessing for HoloEN. Not just because of competition, but they now have a group of people "big enough" to collab with besides Vshojo. God, I hope they actually notice them.

>>4775756
Its mostly the vibe I get from their full holomyth collabs and a few streams here and there. Unfortunately I dont watch too much of Kiara's solo content because her voice hurts my ears. Not a meme orange woman hater tho, I actually like her personality quite a bit.

>>4774222
Nah, mori has always been like that, it's just Kiara was the one influenced her to embrace the vtuber and idol culture. Now she gone, her "friends" come leeching of back to calli and shit about to go spiral down

>>4767466
Man, and people wonder why Kiara is so fucking insecure

>>4774373
Exactly! That's why this collab couldnt be used as a metric of her redemption arc

>>4776096
>But I know she means Vshojo
Why? She only seems to like Ironmouse out of them.

>>4776096
Pomu has said she slid into some dms. Let's hope it's Ame and she responds.

>>4775916
twitchfaggotry has infiltrated Hololive and it wasnt even through Ame kek

>>4774084
Gura will be sad, but survive
Ina won't comment
Ame couldn't care less
Chicken will definitely be devastated, though

>>4776047
His wife managed to get in with the worst design and streaming skills I've ever seen of any vtuber. What do you think

>>4776158
But what if she is actually energetic and enthusiastic?

>>4775916
this is honestly sad. why do they want this? there are already youtuber-centric vtubers, they are entertaining in their own way - codemiko is a good example. I watch her and enjoy the content - but, she is worlds apart from hololive. you cant compare them.
these people however dont see the difference, or dont want there to be a difference. they fucking want mori to collab with critikal, TT, and whoever the fuck else.

I used to watch ironmouse a lot, I cant anymore because of retards like this. I seriously just can not understand why people do this. not even memeing, I cant comprehend it.

an example:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1nOr-uZQdg
this video has these comments as some of the top comments despite him having fucking nothing to do with it:
>What mouse sounds like in connor's brain:
>connor after watching this video: "i think im not monkey anymore"
>Connor after seeing this :looks like mouse is broken

this will happen to hololive too one day. it could have happened to gura with that sykunno guy, but she is not a retard and managed to shut it down.

>>4776047
no, his wife is a vshojo talent

>>4774084
what a rrat to post. no one would miss Mori.
Gura is the brand name.
Ina is the safety.
Ame is the toxic one.
Kiara is the one everyone shits on.
Mori is what?

>>4776211
western men are indoctrinated to be cuckolds from a young age

>>4774084
of course they'd be upset, but look how gen 5 turned out, and VOMS. they'll get over it.
it could actually be cool lore-wise, I would love for kiara to have an emo arc. shes pretty good at being emo even when things are going well.

>>4776177
>>4776215
Oh, I didn't know, I never watch vshojo.

>>4767514
>But anon it's 100% effort of her 5% time.
-t .deadbraps-

>>4776170
i adore Ame cause she tried to embrace hololive culture. she might not like it, idk, but she didn't go out of her way and stir shit up.

>>4774084
Doubt they'll be in shambles. Always seemed to me that Ame,Gura, and Ina are the ones that are truly close to each other, while the other 2 are more like co-workers.

>>4776211
Mad respect to Gura for steering clear of drama. Four months ago, everything around her was so terrible I didn't even want to watch her. But I gave her a second chance recently and she's been very chill and entertaining. Of course her chat is still unusable, but what can you do.

>>4767466
Chicken is still annoying numberfag but at least she sticks up for her genmates and tries to make them look good. Mori just throws them under the buss so she can stand on top of them.

>>4776211
>>4776262
>bug5654
this is all just a cruel joke, isnt it?

Ok, I leave for a while and now there is apparently some happenings. I have tried to lurk and look around on what the fuck is the deal but I can't make it out.
Is this just another schizo thing or what?

>>4776284
How does two day tour mean she doesn't do anything hololive related outside of streams?
You do know other holos do roommate stuff so i don't understand why Mori gets shit for it.

>>4775731
>>4775906
>>4775925
>>4775982
It reminds me of how after becoming friends with Connor, Ollie decided she wanted to "break all the rules"

mori is a slut

>>4774084
>>4776171
Kiara has survived worse things than Mori leaving. She now has fans that love her and the entire rest of Hololive is there for her.

Mori is like 5% of Kiara's life.

>>4776404
While i like the TT crew. Connor has admitted that he tries to clout chase whenever he can. Thank god he didn't get to Ame.

>>4774918
FUCKING THIS! Bitches be complaining about BTS stuff are really the most lazy excuse. She can just say she hasnt feeling well or any other reason but only has 5% for stream!!?? Why she gotta lie like that? It just shows she doesnt like to stream that much. If she doesnt like streaming game just say so and stream whatev niche game she likes, or just karaoke/chat stream just to connect with her fans.
Just dont come up with that 5% bullshit. She already shown her disinterest towars streaming and now this. Im done deadbeats, she is not whort my gachikoi

>>4776349
at least hes self aware

I don't understand the complaints about Mori talking about a cover that doesn't exist though?
It happens a lot even in office and co-worker situations.
Maybe you fags should go and work so you see how common it is?

Mori was just being polite if anything, or she just went socially autist again.

I remember this shit happening in JP too, like that time Kanata said she was watching Marine's stream when she obviously just woke up, for example.

>>4775332
She try to keep calli on a leash so she dont run around suckin cock on stream

>>4776436
Clout chasing is a well known standard in streaming culture. What Im surprised by is Mori constantly talking shit about clout chasers but now shes falling prey to them and starting to become one.

Hey Mori,
You’re a performer not a platform. Get you fucking priorities straight, stop being a springboard for parasites. You are getting used and are apparently to stupid to realize people are activating your opposition defiance to manipulate you. It doesn’t make you a rebel, it just means your gullible.

>>4776211
>this will happen to hololive too one day. it could have happened to gura with that sykunno guy
ogey.
bad take.

>>4776470
1. Get the fuck off my board you disgusting namefag 2. Kiara and Mori were supposed to be super close friends, not coworkers.

>>4776525
God, you're an idolfag alright.
Kiara and Mori are coworkers. Friendship you faggots keep being delusional about doesn't happen in a few months. It takes years to be considered as true close friendship.

>>4776211
>There's an alternate timeline where these people are eating up Carson/Gura shit instead
>There's an alternate timeline where they'd be posting their shitty shipping clips of Connor/Amelia
>These people will not stop trying to force interactions between your hololive members and their eshitlebs
>They will find the lowest common denominator until someone finally gives them what they want i.e. Ironmouse, Ollie, etc.

These are the people calling you an incel schizo

>>4775784
>just like the pekomiko thing which the rabbit is now stuck with because theres official hololive song about it and a bunch of official stuff, despite all rape jokes aside, they clearly had some kind of falling out.
Retard

>>4776445
She just said 5% of her day is streaming and that she does other hololive stuff behind the scenes mostly probably music related.

>>4776553
5%ers are the most egotistical arrogant pieces of human garbage on this board. Are any of you actually humans, or are you just fake personalities walking through life being fake to everyone you meet. I hope you get hit by a bus and isekai into a 1940's German death camp

>>4767466
this is actually painful
>>4774821
no, she only put a link to a "king cover" on twitter and it was just a rickroll

>>4776237
The reluctant meme canvas. Unironically her role is to have memes forced on to her by redditors and pretend to hate them while handing out small concessions. Redditors eat it up

>>4776570
>>4776553
>>4776518
>>4776514
>>4776470
>>4776445
>>4776413
>>4776592
>>4776590


all happened once >>4776371 posted.

holy shit, there really is a raid going on.
discord niggers are the worst.

>>4776096
Based Pomu. HoloEN should've chose her instead

Hey Mori,
You’re a performer not a platform. Get your fucking priorities straight, stop being a launchpad for parasites. You are getting used and are apparently too stupid to realize people are just activating your oppositional defiance to manipulate you. It doesn’t make you a rebel, it just means you’re super gullible.

>>4776621
keep telling yourself that t. deadbraps

>>4776505
This is the same I feel, Mori already got the cancer from those faggots

>>4776208
Then it's a start. But not until the next month that she'll get full redemption.

>>4776621
Always have to blame it one some conspiracy raid eh. First it was kfp, then chumkeks, then Zhangs, then hoshiyomis and now discord.

>>4774143
very based, can't wait to see it and to see the mad deadbraps in the comments

>>4776404
Don't you find it weird that Mori and Ollie started doing normal voice streams around the same time, breaking the rules by following TT orders

>>4774858
Jesus this is worse than i thought, she only had to literally say one name, anyone- it didn't even have to be true.
Now it seems like she doesn't even know the names of the other girls.

>>4776621
Hey, wanna see me do a magic trick? I'm gonna make my problems disappear with two words.

t. deadbeat

>>4773327
Why are you here, nigger

>>4776702
To be fair Mori switches between her normal voice, wigger voice, and seiso voice constantly.

oh well, was nice thread until the SEA school day ended.
gonna catch up on my stream reps now. anyone planning to post in this thread from here on out, please dont unless you're only doing it to contain the raid in one place.

>>4776711
So you think it's terrible to lie about a non-existent collab when the purpose was to be polite
But when it's about JP you want her to lie so she can be polite?

You fucks are just complaining at this point, right

>>4776621
ogey.
retarded take.

>>4776349
Mousey.. why...

>>4776702
>Don't you find it weird that Mori and Ollie started doing normal voice streams around the same time
What normal voice? She doesn't do a voice expect with ASMR streams.

>>4776169
I know she and Kiara interacted on Twitter openly

>>4776763
She can just say she doesn't know anyone. Literally no one would fault her for it. Instead she lied.

She could've said she was to busy to watch Heart Challenger, back when people actually believed that excuse. Instead she lied. She could've said she didn't know Kiara had a King cover. Instead she lied.

She could've been honest about so many of the things she said, and no one would be angry at her. Instead she keeps lying and giving excuses to meet expectations no one had for her.

>>4775460
In paper the gag is good, inmortal girl annoys the hell out of the reaper itself and the other goes tsundere cause she never felt that could have a partner; the problem is it wasn't builded overtime, it was fucking forced since day 1, add calli enthusiasm and would crumble into pieces.

>>4776941
esl kun... your english reps...

mori and DogFart.com collab when?

>>4776592
>I hope you get hit by a bus and isekai into a 1940's German death camp

Can't wait to take a swim in the pool.

>>4777025
Thanks for the heartiest laugh I've had on this board, anon.

>>4777070
Idk anon dying from typhus sounds pretty bad to me. Starvation too, if you arrive after the allies destroyed all the supply lines to your camp

>>4777070
watch out for the masturbation machines

>>4773917
Looking forward to it anon, Godspeed.

>>4776763
This you too? >>4776470
This is a bad take man. There are only 4 other people in that office if we're using your analogy. And that analogy is bad because they're closer to idol units than coworkers that each works separately.

But also, the context of that clip happens when HoloEN can't collab with Coco. Kiara knows this too and pushing Mori to say a senpai name. It's implying Coco.

Criticizing Mori is one thing, but we shouldn't deliberately twist her words out of contexts when the context at that time was clear.

>>4777773
At this point Im convinced 5%ers are robots that use people for clout and dont understand anything except numbers and popularity

>>4775181
They both already said it was a joke in a later collab stream.

>>4774143
you better start editing now nigga

>>4777914
Are you a deadbeat? Im inclined not to trust your ability to read past the surface wording

>>4777914
Proof or you're a lying blebbit faggot.

>>4777914
anon... when something is clarified in "a later stream" it just means they have decided a good way to avoid any trouble starting. this is why they have managers.

>>4774950
Because westerners that embrace the cunny are the most powerful people on the planet.....

You literally cant argue against this point because its true.

all these faggots think this girl was turned clout chaser the bitch has always been you idiots

>>4779237
It's fine to be in it for the money, but when you have 'all eyes on you', you can't do your job half-assedly. No one would be complaining if she just had a few off days where the content was flat, but this is an ongoing issue.

>>4767466
I'm sorry cheekan....

You know the worst part about the 5% part is? The part that no one addresses? It's not that Mori thinks her content is just 5% of her day, which is probably objectively false. The problem is that it's just a huge deflection on her part. She was just talking about postponing a karaoke and then she deflected onto all the ~stuff~ she does outside of it.

That's the fucked up part. She's constantly bringing up what she does outside her streams like it's a valid thing to do. Leaving the 4th wall breaking behind and the mentality "she has to be thinking about her fans all the time!" (despite the fact Live Again is about that), and the fact literally everyone else has a life too, it's even more damning because that's the content we do get to see. She's constantly talking about how there's shit her fans DON'T get to see. And that fucking sucks. It's a constant barrage of wish-you-were-theres with her. Is it any surprise doxxbeats are a thing?

>>4767466
What the actual fuck....
KFPbros.... Chicken.....
I'm sorry for all the shitposts I've made, I'l never do it again

>>4772940
>en directo
ay ay ay tengo el chicken en los pantalones

>>4767466
despite this, kiara still gets shit from her own fans for not talking about mori enough. its honestly fucked up

If only she and roommate weren't so fucking hot, people would thehhrge dididiffrr3

>>4775916
>have 52 different hololive members to collab with
>nope, lets collab with people on the outside regularly! I know people hate it so I just keep it a secret with whom x3
>alright 5% of my day has been spend, imma just take your simp money and biggidy bounce outta here, peace!
Its either this retarded woman thing of always wanting "more" or she is seriously sick of living in Japan and engaging with JP culture. Either way fuck that cunt.

>>4779818
>She's constantly talking about how there's shit her fans DON'T get to see
But it is not like it is related to roommates.
She said that she does a lot behind the scenes stuff on Hololive and also said she can't really talk about it.

>>4767397
>Oh yeah haha I totally have senpais I want to collab with I just coincidentally can't name any, can we please change the topic?
she couldn't name the Senpai because it was Coco, and she wasn't allowed to collab with Coco at the time.
She's collabing with her now that the heat has died down

>>4780018
>she is seriously sick of living in Japan and engaging with JP culture
Well that is wrong when she has said that she has no interest of moving to states.
>have 52 different hololive members to collab with
She is literally gonna have song collabs with two of her senpais this month and next month.

>>4780022
Even if it's for Hololive, which I doubt it all is considering everything else, it still sucks to say. I don't care about what you do behind scenes. I'm there to watch you at that time. You can either share what you're doing or you should remain quiet.

>>4770086
She should fucking dedicate 100% to being domino devil if pretending to be an anime girl is such a pain you humongous faggot

>>4773292
Then fuck off from this board? This isn't the place for your cringy ass J-rap literal who

>>4774084
Doubt. If Mori’s this much of a cunt on-stream it’s not too hard to imagine that she’s awful in private.

>>4780503
>you have a different opinion?
>FUCK OFF THIS BOARD

>>4775925
Kiara also left Japan.

>>4780922
yeah unfortunately that anon is the CEO of the internet, so you absolutely have to listen to what they say

>>4766884
she can fuck on stream and 5braps will proudly donate to support her many boyfriends

>>4781190
You know she wouldn't have if her visa didn't expire. Imagine all the nice off-collabs we'd get from Kiara with her senpais if she was still there.

>>4780503
It's always the Holobronies who screech the most that try to appeal to groupthink

>>4774581
>your handler
The fuck are you even talking about? You're legit schizophrenic.
>Inb4 you call me a zhang

>>4780015
Strokechama?!

>>4773917

>makes song about paying rent and living in people's heads
>beadbraps are the only ones who pay her rent with subs and akasupas
>confusedblackman.jpg

>>4771933
this is a new cope I haven't see before about this clip from a deadbrap, please elaborate and ask me how I know you're socially autistic to be unable to realize kiara was extremely uncomfortable and shocked at Calli's response essentially hand-waving her away to shut up without realizing she was chatting absolute shit

>>4770086
cool, then get the fuck out of hololive so she can focus on her music
simple as

>>4780647
Not according to JPs and her genmates.

>>4782331
Even deadbeats know Mori would be unbearable if she wasn't being tardwarangled by cover. They pray she never leaves.

>>4780182
I agree. She should not be so vague about these things.

>>4782393
You actually believe one of her genmates would say "actually Mori is pretty cunty to me on discord when I try and engage with her"? This isn't niji.

>>4782487
Kiara actually did say that in a zatsudan about her vacation with Mori

>>4782331
She probably would if she could get away with it, she knows she has enough paypigs who'll donate to her no matter what she does

>>4768764
>>4768561
ayame was never active outside of the 2nd gen from the beginning. same goes for sion and choco. many members from the 0, the 1st and the 2nd gens are like that. they tend to be solo.

its just about their style and friendship. /vt/s eop retardedness is always absolutely pointless and as shitty as chinks

>>4782487
So now we are to timeloop where everyone of her genmates hate her?

>>4782487
Fubuki like her apparently
https://youtu.be/t7H1MXxft6o

>>4782682
No autistic cuckbeat. I know you're going through the victim stage I'm just saying cover knows openly airing grievances would be bad so the absence of this does not prove there aren't any. They could all hate her or all love her.

>>4782665
Aki said gen 1 was always like that too from the beginning. the first gen which get along as group might be 3rd gen

>>4767466
CHICKEN BTFO

>>4782796
FBK is hololive's cheerleader she would do this for any of them. She one of the only holos that tries to raise up the stars.

>>4782665
So what? They are doing their best to bond somehow now, both inside and outside their gen. See: Gen 0 Minecraft collab, the whole Gen 0 calling in to Roboco's outfit reveal, Suisei and Roboco going crazy with collabs, Sora trying to overcome her shyness and reach to people for collabs (recent SoraShuba Minecraft), Gen 1 concert and pre-concert events like karaoke relay, Matsuri/Aki/FBK/Subaru participating in lots of cross-gen collabs.

>>4782995
Well I'm not going to stomp down friend's work by putting them down.

>>4776470

>>4782972
>Watame
>Fubuki
>Coco
Wow, these are... the least risky collab partners she could chose. Two people she's already collabed with, one of them who can translate for her, and another one who can make two hours of literally nothing by herself entertaining.

Might as well not show up at all in your own collabs, Mori.

>>4782972
She's gonna shit up scarlet nexus and another gura collab in the same week.

>>4783259
What would the most difficult collab look like for Mori?

What happened to her WoD campaign?
I thought they were going to release a video a week starting at the start of the month.

>>4780000
She leaned into the ship shit hard. If she wants to drop it, it'll take months before KFP shuts up about it.

>>4783309
Moona probably. Someone who also has autism and she'd have to be the one to work to pry their shell off.

Mori Love, now and forever!

>>4782972
okay, this does look like a decent redemption arc, she'll fuck it up though

>>4783309
Aqua.

>>4783309
Ayame, Choco, and Roboco

>>4783331
It's her fault for making it a gimmick in the first place. A lot of the good ships weren't something that was meant to be established from the start.

>>4783309
Luna and Miko where communication is impossible with nanolish and elite english and also japanese.

>>4783309
1 on 1 with literally any JP, that isn't Korone. Coco's meme review should have been an easy mode collab, there was no language barrier.

>>4777914
Post clip

>>4783531
Luna is actually very high IQ, so I think she could make it work.

>>4776148
Fucking this

>>4783531
Luna is a master at getting the fuck out of dodge, she wouldn't collab with Mori in the first place.

>>4783331
With no more off offcollabs possible I hope that Kiara will be able to slowly but surely Cut ties to Mori.
Of course that would have to be over the span of months to keep the /u/ Fagotts at bay.
But I am confident that with gen2 on the horizon she will have more opportunities to brach out and connect with better people.

>>4782972
>T3 stream.
>Only 24.99!
I know this is literally ancient news, bu5 god damn I never actually looked at the cost. I figured it was just 5/10/15.
Imagine paying $25 a month to hear her mumble words, talk slightly about her creative process, and listen to how she feels restricted in her current situation.

>>4782972
>People say Mori doesn't care about Hololive
>Mori has a Coco, Ollie collab coming up, and then a Coco, Watame, Fubuki collab
Explain, /vt/? It looks like she's going to be working hard here

>>4783828
huh deadcucks seem to love it

>>4783331
KFP doesn't care for TakaMori. Kiara's the most GFE leaning HoloEN. 5%s would care way more because they have nothing but memes.

>>4767466
I hate both of them, but isnt this just her playing along with the rickroll joke?

>>4783830
I suspect that was some sort of management condition of "we'll approve you stupid anituber collab only if you start putting effort in holo collabs".
We'll see how it turns out. I hope she at least learned their names by now.

>>4769815
This tracks. Remember who gave her that shitty mic she used at debut?

>>4783924
>Kiara is the most GFE
I thought that was Ame?

>>4784311
Ame is only GFE on special meme streams like valentines day and that one gosling date. Normally she's just a cute weirdo

>>4783478
That’d be hard for Roboco. Remember Roboco has collabed with Amelia several times despite the latter knowing not much Japanese and still seemed like having a blast.

>>4769815
Narrative.

>>4769815
The only person in holoEN you should take advice from is Ame. Ina has her own way of doing things, Gura is too shy to give any advice, Kiara is not very bright, and Mori doesn't care about you.

>>4784311
No, Amelia is a gaslighter. Kiara has had times were he went on minute after minute telling the chat how much she loves them and there was a time she pretended she doing a blowjob

>>4782972
Kiara is shit anyway

>>4784637
Excuse me? Am I going to have to apply to be a kfp wagie?

>>4783830
TTRPG on chikin channel...

>>4782972
Why didn't she put the TTRPG stream with Kiara on here? Surely she didn't forget...

>>4786260
Interesting, she totally skipped June 9th on both schedules

>>4767514
Yes, and?

>>4767466
Oh no jesas

Can someone spoonfeed me where the Calli 5% thing came from?

>>4788287
Shes sponsored by 5% nutrition.

>>4788287
I don't have time to spoonfeed retards like you, I only spend 5% of my time in this board.

mori peaked at the remix ranking stream with kiara. kiara wasn't competing for airtime and was an excellent cohost. mori was in her element just talking about music and getting excited about future prospects. then nothing like it ever happened again.