/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Everyone who goes to Hololive is impressed with their kindness and hospitality.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=hc7tT9-FQIA

>Tamaki: Toko-chan, how was it? How did it feel going to Holo?
>Toko: Ah, Hololive... They left an O'Zack (her favorite chips) for me
>Toko: "As for Inui-san, (her favorite) is O'Zack", Staff-san said and left it there for me
>Suisei: That is an expensive snack too, right!
>Toko: Then, up until the time of the live, I ended up not having time to eat it
>Toko: So I was thinking: "Oh, I didn't even have time to eat it!"
>Toko: Then they said: "If you don't mind, just take it with you!"
>Toko: and they gave me to O'Zack!
>Toko: What a nice company!
>Suisei: It really makes you wanna join them, after seeing things like this
>Toko: It is a really nice company!
(and here is the punchline)
>Toko: Nijisanji has never done things like this before
>Suisei: Yamero! Yamero! YADA! YADA!
>Tamaki: Yeah! Yeah!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGGhgzoov5s

>>47735140
Do they expect snacks? Fucking freeloaders. Riku needs another yacht.

Sisters, how many sequential groupings of 14 day periods are we away from this frigging black company collapsing?

>>47735007
They should change their company name from anycolor to black

>>47735007
>Pekora tries to fit in by saying she's also like that, going home right away after studio recordings.
>tries to fit in
She already proved that she was like that.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68veil9bVpw

>>47735007
I wish Deron punched me

>>47735393
>One is anti social
>Others are cold
Very different

>>47735400
Then kicked me down.

>>47735393
Pekora was real nice to salvage whatever that conversation was

>>47735007
She just want to convert Niji girls into Holos, anon
You saw the numbers?! Niji only push for male and female just only get bottom of the barrel right now.

Hololive Talents. Hololive Members. Hololive Generations.


Niji Liver organs. Niji streamers but with anime avatars. Niji zhang botted waves.

>>47735007
>holo niji culture is really different huh
Nice ESL, OP.

>>47735007
SEAnigger OP trying to make this sound bigger than it really is. Basically Niji members don't say "sugoi nee" at everything like holo does, which is like a Japanese gameshow thing. It has nothing to do with how the talents treat each other.

>>47735007
She's just trying to salvage the one big family image that Hololive had that fell apart after Rushia's termination.

>>47735696
thx for showing you know nothing about Nijijp, as expected of an EOP

>>47735730
>Basically the way Niji members treat each other is different from Holos
>It has nothing to do with how the talents treat each other
I respect a seaman who speaks Japanese more than whatever you are.

>>47735007
>>47735140
>>47735179
Good corpo propaganda Holo intern

>>47735838
Holo = Japanese gameshow, they pretend they are amazed at everything to entertain the audience. Niji = realistic interactions.

>>47735730
>>47735904
Here comes the Niji defense force to deflect and misrepresent things.

>hololive is warm
All thanks idol culture by the way. Nijisanji has no culture? How unfortunate.

>>47735904
so, basically
holo watchers want entertainment
nijinigs want "realistic interactions" because they're all loser shut ins that don't get any of that irl?

>>47735904
> "Nijisanji is a """"family"""""" "
>Realistic
Lol lmao

>>47735904
https://streamable.com/dkwjgr
>treating each other like garbage and being assholes to each other
>realistic interactions
Maybe in whatever third world shithole you live in.

>>47735904
Hololive = vtubers
Nijisanji = streamers with avatars

>>47735007
Imaging siding with hololive that its foundation is based on lies

>>47735904
>realistic
lmao so nijifags are they type that think reality tv is actually real

>>47735891
I didn't know Nui, Yorumi, Hoshikawa and Toko were undercover holo interns! They're pretty impressive to fool everyone like that.

>>47736068
> Unironically using a manga as a source.
> Does not understand how hololive works.
Well no use in saying anything niji defence force will do anything to get there daily wages after all.

>>47736034
god i need saku to stomp on my balls

>>47735904
Like a clockwork >>47734299

>>47736068
>>47736156
Choosing a pro idol manga too. The retardation is immense.

>>47735904
>Being nice = Japanese gameshow
SAD!

>>47736270
It's hilarious how easy nijifags are to predict.

>>47735488
Then sat on my face.

>>47736356
Saying "sugoi/sugoi nee" every 30 seconds is not something you do even with your friends. Cope. This is further supported by Nui's reaction to it.

>>47736323
>watch episode 1
>fans kill the idol
>idol forgive him
>my oshi like the show
Does that mean if i rape my oshi she will forgive me?

>>47736530
Pekora paused streams in order to masturbate to her fans before

>>47736356
Retards really don't know that there are times where they do clearly behave according to the scripts not unlike your typical japanese gameshows, just watch the vods from hololive main channel.
And that's the thing, they rarely do that on their own stream contents

>>47735007
how hard is it to praise someone for a good job? Nijisanji makes no sense sometimes

>>47735965
>coming form the fanbase with the most unicorns
really?? at least have some self awareness

>>47735007
uaaah brakku company? kimoi~

im too lazy to get a shion smug png

>>47736524
You should try being nicer to people sometimes. Might win you a few league matches.

>>47736019
>Infighting
>Falling out
>Drama
>Bad blood
>BOOK OF GRUDGES
It doesn't get any more real than this!
>Holols could never

>>47736644
Anon don't you know that praising people nowadays are something out of movie scripts, not real life?
Geez, get with the times already old man

>>47736726
you can say "good shit" and pat someone on the shoulder and that would mean a lot to someone's mental. its takes no time at all

>>47736682
nah, trying to tilt the enemy team is a better strategy

>>47736530
only one way to find out anon.

for science of course

>>47735007
This is interesting. Thanks OP, you've inspired me to continue my reps.

>>47736644
I think hololive just have positive workplace.
Shigure Ui said that it's surprising to see Luna hug and hold hand with Lamy, even though it's the first time Luna meet Lamy.

>>47736929
I'm sorry but that's not part of Nijisanji's company-wide policies.

Hololive is a talent driven agency. Yagoo's saviourfag urges have been fulfilled.

Nijisanji is greedy and profit driven. Riku's yacht fund is pumped full and filled.

>>47737067
This. Hololive was built up from a dream. Nijisanji was created to advertise their app.

>>47736524
>Saying "sugoi/sugoi nee" every 30 seconds
Literally none of them do this. You're not even a clipfag much less a threadreader.

Nui exposed hololive for being fake and holobronies think this is an own. "Is this a thing that people do?" implying it's not a natural reaction.

>>47736929
I don't understand nijiniggers.
Why is praising someone unrealistic?
I do that all the time with my workmates.
Hell, if you play game with your friends, if they do something good, you praise them too, right?

>>47736949
That sounds like spiritual and mental poison. Not only just playing league, but playing it out of pure spite.

>>47737002
It's not positive atmosphere, it's just yuri atmosphere

>>47737170
Being a decent human being is considered fake according to this nijisister. Rumao Rumao.

>>47737170
>>47736270

>>47737247
LoL players in a nutshell, it's actually quite fascinating to see.

Fuck Nijiwhores

>>47735007
Nijistrangers... why isn't our corpo like a sisterhood?

>>47737178
Team atmosphere vs your coworkers are your competition

>>47737339
Every person I've met in real life that played LoL has said that they "had to quit" playing it. It really seems to send some people down a pretty bad path.

>>47735007
Did you forget to add a "not" next to "really?"

>>47736683
>family also blacklist them and send their schizo and harrass them like zaion
More like a cult to me.

>>47737411
Up until not too long ago the Niji website used to sort by sub count by default

Luna is proof enough that hololive is the more supportive company

>Hololive being overly nice mean Nijisanji is a black company.

>>47736530
Vtuber =/= irl idol
I know you a retard, but would you go after selen when you never meet her irl.

>>47737178
>I do that all the time with my workmates.
That is bullshit. I can tell.

>>47737170
It's funny how beings friends with your co-workers and praising them is a concept so foreign to nijis and nijifags that it legitimately does not compute to them.

>>47737551
>escape black company
>join cover
>become successful
And to top it all, she's happy and fighting amatsu now.

>>47737596
> Not being nice to each other
You know this is rather abnormal even if they don't have a friendly per say environment since they are soo many of them having such a reaction is rather abnormal.also

>Throwing talents under the bus
>Purely profit driven
>AR live cancelled because of "covid"
>ACCILARATION
many such cases

>>47737178
>our livers don't do it therefore holos are just faking it!!!
That's literally their whole thought process.

>>47737170
>>47737178

>>47737655
>>47737687
It's like cosmic poetry

>>47737722
Crazy how she made the best decesion of her life by joining a company which was smaller then something she was already a part of.

>>47737604
>selen
Nijinigger please.
I only watch hololive.
Did you really think i know anything about niji livers?

>>47737809
>During "ALL OUT WAR"
>Holos probably do the same behind the sciene too, talking about the competitors is natural!

>>47737755
Can you repeat that in your own language?

>>47737903
Sure
>Peko peko peko pekoo peko peko pekopeko peko peko peko peko peko peko peko
Feel free to ask if you don't understand anything

>>47735007
kek the leadup to this was also pretty funny

https://youtu.be/I-yYkCW_hgM?t=6150
> Chat speculating about streaming "quotas" in both companies
> Peko shuts it down saying "we can take breaks if our health is bad, we can drink water in the middle of recordings if we're thirsty" etc.
> "Really there's no quota stuff in either Niji or Holo, so we can rest when we need to." - Pekora
> "You're talking like a manager lol" - Rena
> Pekora curious about the conversations they have with managers, asks if it's something like "take care of your health" and stuff like that?
> "Do managers even talk to us?" - Nui
> Rena goes "eh?", stutters, Pekora pushes ahead and asks Nui if her managers doesn't talk to her.
> "what's.. their contact info...?" - Nui, Pekora laughs, thinking it's a joke
> They don't laugh. oh_shit.peko.
> "So, they only talk to us when it's required." - Nui.
> "Isn't that how it normally is? Eh!?" - Rena
> "I might be similar as well, it's like, you just don't make small talk about trivial things, right?" - Pekora desperately trying to salvage the vibe.
> chat meanwhile spamming '事務的/業務連絡' - so business-like lol/business contact only kek etc.
> "I'm also that type, not making much small talk, but recently my manager changed." - Rena
> "Oh! Same as mine, from April?" - Pekora
> "Nope, around Nov-Dec." - Rena
> "Ah that's still pretty recent!" - Pekora
> "So that person hasn't gotten used to the job yet, we aren't that close." - Rena
and the convo continues as earlier

Nui... seemed VERY open about certain things on this stream.
I wonder if Niji's "idol push" is getting to her.

I really hope this is just expertly done falseflagging to make the Nijisanji fans who replied to this thread look like miserable misanthropes. Because holy shit lol.

Not really so different. EOP niggers will never understand it though.

Nyui becomes like a kind holomen when she talks/collabs with Hayama at least since they are the same gen members. Niji jp just has too many members so most of them don't even know about each other.

>>47737178
If you play a game of league, your friend scores a solo kill, and you praise them, that's good teamwork and a positive attitude. If you're pinging nice shot after every shot in Rocket League that's extremely fake and/or passive aggressive.

Are you guys purposefully misinterpreting what was said for fun?

>>47736034
I can tell you don't have friends

>>47735007
It just means that Holo has a really warm environment and is really tight knit. Expecting someone to be that close to random coworkers in a group of 156 is not realistic.

>>47738081
Look at the IP count.

>>47736323
keep trying retard.

>>47738200
You need to be close to someone to tell that they did well?

>>47738044
Don't niji managers handle like 10 talents? Hard to imagine they will be close to everyone of them

>>47737687
OP omitted the part where Pekora explained how they do it, which is how they do it in Jap gameshows. That's why Nui was surprised by it. It's not a natural reaction.

>>47738215
Naroo hoe dough neigh.

>>47738328
Why is this always the excuse for that company?

FUCK I want Nui paizuri so bad

>>47737178
being good is the expected norm, praising for it is no different from praising a child who learns to take a shit independently. which i suppose sums up hololive quite accurately.

>>47738328
>10
It's probably like 20 or something, they aren't gonna be able to micro manage every talents that's why they let that black elf guy upload that Pekora song.

>>47738397
Not really an excuse but it dosent seem like they want to use more money to hire more managers, at the end of the day it's not the talents and managers fault that the company is profit driven and nothing can be done about it.

>>47738347
Why are you spreading misinformation on the internet?

>>47736068
An illusion is totally fine as long as they can keep it alive

>>47738183
>he's too retarded to realize his "friends" are just shitting on him
anonchama...

>>47738701
COpw, yu are omiting detils

How does Yagoo save the girls at NijiJP?

>>47738701
Might as well ask OP the same question.

>>47738841
How? Seriously?
Luna is the proof that yagoo can save nijijp girl.

>>47738484
>being good is the expected norm, praising for it is no different from praising a child who learns to take a shit independently
So like the vast majority of the world then? Because people get praised all the time in the real world when they do well whether they're an adult or a child. Seems like Nijisanji are the odd ones out.

>>47738149
Catalog threads are cute like that. Not praising everyone for every little thing they do/Not actively looking for reasons to praise someone just because you received some praise =/= Nobody ever gets praised at all. Plus you have retarded flalseflags that are trying to paint people getting praise as a bad thing, their ESL posts give them away though.

>>47738841
>>47738986
There aren't anyone left that are worth saving

Based. This is the only way to remind Nijis where their place is and what their worth is, i.e. to be the slave cobalt mines for Riku's yacht.

>>47739026
Anon read the OP, even the chat said that what Hololive does isn't the norm.

>>47738772
fix your bot here nijiniggers, it's fucking embarassing holy fuck

>>47737411
And everything comes to this. Ever nijinig talent is competing with each other all the time. It's the survival of the fittest.

>>47738772
>>47738908
>なんかこう言う褒め合う見たいな乗りって…あります?
>ホロは結構あるかも。「なんとか凄いじゃん」「なんとか凄いじゃん」見たいなのはあるぺこだけど。にじさんじさんはあるんじゃないぺこなの?
I picked out the part that could seem like Jap gameshows to a non-native but this was after the conversation about Nijis not complimenting each other all too much already started.

>>47737823
Not even in terms of success, but even the character she got fit her better than the one she already had. Lunaitos and their oshi are aight

>itt nijifags try to paint being nice and supportive to your friends and co-workers as a fake and bad thing because nijisanji is cutthroat and clique based
Holy fuck the unshackled autism.

>>47739314
Not everyone you're replying to is the same anon with the same issue. OP is spreading misinformation in the way of choice of words and framing of conversation.

>>47735904
> Niji = realistic interactions
bit too real sometimes apparently

>>47735007
swap all the males in cover for all the females in nijisanji

>>47739659
You write up something better if you're apparently an N0 dekiru chad

Don't need more SJW Clique whores , only nijiJP girls please, esp the desuwa girl shes funny

>>47738215
>more than twice the amount of replies as IPs so soon into the thread
Yeah.

>>47738044
Pekora wanted to change the topic so bad lol. Bless her soul

>>47735007
This isn't just about any kind of praise though. It's the specific kind of praising Pekora did. To put it like that is kinda weird.

>>47740015
Why is it weird? Is being nice considered weird in Nijisanji?

>>47740164
I don't understand what your question has to do with my post. Did you misread it?
Do you not understand what "To put it like that" was referring to?

>>47740164
It's a dog-eat-dog world in nijisanji. Being nice to your coworkers may literally cost you your job.

>>47739659
>Gets called out for telling bullshit
> MISINFORMATION I SAY IT IS MISINFORMATION SO IT IS
classic niji defence force

>>47740628
>>47736270

>>47740628
You know we are aware some of them are married, right?
And I don't mean >"yeah, me", I mean legitimately married.

>>47740684
No I meant that I wasn't talking about what that other anon was talking about. Being hysterical is not good for you anon.

> deleated
FUCKING KEK NIJI DEFENCE FORCE GET REKT

>>47740164
The way OP is formulated is weird. Are you purposefully acting like this?

>>47740805
Yeah you say op is omitting details but don't say what ok sure.

>>47740430
>>47740919
We live in a world where you either hand out praise over everything or you don't give any praise at all for anything. Or at least this thread lives in that world.

>>47740960
Multiple anons in this thread have mentioned that this isn't just about normally praising someone and that it's weird how the thread is acting like what was said is that no one ever praised them or something.

>>47741111
>Multiple anons
Having schizophrenia doesn't make you into multiple people anon...

>>47736949
i can tell you're either a jew or a nigger

>>47741111
Watch the clip

>>47741111
>multiple anons said-
don't put this on everyone dumbass. watch the damn vod

>>47741208
Ha ha, but there's plenty of more obvious schizos here don't kid yourself.
Like 47735904 and similar posts (from the same anon I presume). Or the OP in the first place who apparently just copy pasted this from the number general.

>>47741111
You're supposed to be retarded in catalog threads newfag.

>>47735007
yesss pekora tearing down the garden wall! let there be niji holo collab. this is but a step back to the REAL norm, where unicorns don't get pandered and talent freedom is only limited by their creativity! you go pekora woohooo

>>47741111
it's a catalog shitter thread, anon.

>>47741635
Worse it's a numbernigger thread: >>47733598
They aren't content with shitposting about numbers alone. They have to create fake drama and disinfo too.

>>47735007
i mean hololive is full of fake bitches just look at mori praising kiara's not existent cover song LMAOOOOOO

>>47736019
Eh tbf that was their EN branch saying that kind of family garbage and even now they're facing the reality. Their JP talents wouldn't say that kind of nonsense normally (not saying there probably isn't a shit ton of dishonest individuals in their JP branch). But I always got a more down to earth feel from the JP talents.

>>47735140
Was this the last toko-suichan collab?
Big if yes

>disinfo this disinfo that
>don't belieb them anon its from a numberfag
>don't watch the clip its fake
trying too hard

>>47735891
That "propaganda" came straight from niji members' mouths, retarded damage controler niji intern. Look at you all retarded like that.

>>47735825
he summed them up pretty well
t. N1 speaker

>>47742427
Bet numberfags were betting on this archive being deleted however this is not even a COVER BAD thing so they will not care. At worst we might get another pegor anti outing himself like that one niji that got suspended lol.

>>47735730
>>47735904
>>47736635
>>47738347
>gameshows
GIGAKEK!
The resident schizo came up with a new buzzword to cope with reality.
You love to see it.

>>47735696
I never really got this. Nijisanji isn't the only company that calls streaming Vtubers by that name. I guess anons just aren't aware of other groups is what it is.

>>47742685
>n-no hololive isn't fake! it can't be!
>posts someone who admitted MicoMet is "just business"
what did he mean by this?

I always wonder what aorst of person posts in these threads. To be specific. the ones that reply to obvious schizos and bait and then even get heated and over them. And no don't just say SEA, it's not just that. I'm talking in terms of how that person lives life day to day.

>>47736270
holy based
kino

>>47736524
marineschizo/suiseischizo go touch grass kek
this isnt healthy for you

>>47735140
>what a nice company, they bought me a bag of chips
holy shit the absolute state of nippon corporate culture

>>47743613
It isn't a nippon only thing though. Tell me the last time your slave driver gave you anything but headaches.

>>47742897
But Micomet business is the realest.

>>47743184
Sauce on image clip?

>>47744004
nvm i thought it was related to the recent drama. Would have been nice if she said something like that.

>>47742897
Aaaaaww look at the schizo fighting with voices in his head.
How cute! However...
we need to go back to reality and talk about facts:

>Hoshimachi's indispensable partner is her colleague Miko Sakura, known as "Mikochi", who was recently named "Tokyo Tourism Ambassador". Their duo, miComet, is also very popular, but what kind of person is Miko from Hoshimachi's point of view?
>Mikochi is a hololive member with pink hair and a baby-like voice, and everything she does is like a comic from Korokoro Comics, but thanks to that we often get work together.
Mikochi was the first person I ever met that acted like that, so I always treat her roughly in my streams, but despite that I'm really grateful to her.
>Actually, we weren't particularly good friends at first. In fact, we didn't have much contact with each other at first, and it all started when we worked together. Now we call each other "Sui-chan" and "Miko-chi", but back then we called each other "Suisei-chan" and "Miko-chan". When I think back on it, it makes me laugh.
>The two of you are always in tune with each other, it's like a great duo, isn't it?
>We didn't have many hobbies in common, so I wondered how we got on so well, but one day when I was talking to Mikochi, I found out that she used to be friends with a gyaru at school. That gyaru seemed to be the type of person who said what she thought straight to the point, and I'm a similar type of person, so maybe that part of our chemistry is good.
>I also like the fact that even if it's not a big deal, she'll laugh hysterically and say, "Ha ha ha ha! even if it's not a big deal. When I'm interacting with Mikochi, I often let my true self come out.
>However, she once sang a song of mine in her own stream with a lisp, and as a result, only "Mikochi's version" was talked about, so that's the only problem I have with her (laughs).

>I want people who are interested in "THE FIRST TAKE" and think "I want to hear more songs!" to watch the MV of my songs.
>Going a step further, if you're interested in me as a streamer, I think you'll understand who I am when you watch my collaboration streams with Mikochi.

This is from Suisei's interview with Shueisha https://shueisha.online/entertainment/118721
Them being business-only is a long running joke, which you would know if you werent such a thread reading retard.

YOU WILL BE A CORPORATE SLAVE
AND YOU WILL BE HAPPY

>>47744203
Miko and Suisei have a good dynamic with their contrasting designs and personalities. I don't care for the tee-tee bullshit, but I can get behind Micomet.

>>47744203
>Them being business-only is a long running joke
I thought it was more something they say so shippers won't go overboard.

>corpo bootlickers vs corpo bootlickers
fun thread

>>47738044
https://youtu.be/I-yYkCW_hgM?t=6742 [Open]
> In Ark if I use Dinosaurs to destroy other people's houses, I'll probably get flamed right? I worry about that as well.
> *awkward laughs and reassurances*
> "Niji does PvP" - chat
> "Eh!? You guys do PvP?" - Pekora
> "We used to do it." - Rena
> "Do you guys still have the Niji Ark server?" - Pekora
> "It's closed right now." - Rena
> "Oh so it's closed." - Pekora
YOU CANNOT TELL ME SHE DIDN'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THE FUCK SHE WAS DOING LMAO.

>>47738397
Not an excuse, its literally the truth of why Niji is the way that it is. The quantity over quality mindset, which is why quality > quantity

>>47744749
if Peko was actually just going from awkward topic to awkward topic accidentally god bless her soul
i would have jumped from a window

>>47744623
No it's just holobronies that are. They're proud of the fact that their talents are forced to repeat "sugoi/sugoi nee/sugoi na" every 30 seconds like a broken record.

>>47744558
It's both probably.

>>47745131
Delusions.

>>47745131
lmao cmon dont be a salty bitch, nijifags are the same or worse considering how little a shit their company gives a fuck about most their vtubers

>>47745131
Anyone is allowed to shittalk anything that isn't sponsored (same thing in niji), they just don't do it because they aren't cunts

>>47743953
It's not about that the employer gives or doesn't give to the employees, but rather about the latter's response. Those Nijis were impressed by a fucking bag of chips. Nobody here goes around saying "oh wow, this business is so nice to me" just because the office has free coffee.

>>47745131
>No it's just holobronies that are

>>47745471
Having a fucking coffee machine is different from someone who goes out of his way to get you something he didn't even have to.

>>47745471
Why are you equating a staff worker giving you something they know you like even though they don't have to to someone getting a coffee from a coffee machine on their own? They're not remotely the same thing. Are you retarded?

>>47745131
Sometimes you'll notice a Holo compliment another on stream, unprovoked. Nothing big, they'll just say something like "You know, I actually watch your streams quite a bit, I like your singing streams since you have such a pretty voice. Hanging out today was really fun, and I'm glad I got to know you better!"
It does seem like they are encouraged to do this kind of thing, but seeing how it absolutely has a positive impact on the recipient they might just give back the kindness they themselves enjoyed receiving.
I'd say part of it is "good manners" that are fostered in the company, and part genuine warmth that springs from it.

>>47745573
>who gives a fuck about the talents
hmmm
the fans?

>>47735007
Niji is more than dark, it's pitch black

>>47744749
Wait what's the issue here? The server's closed because Ark season is over. Everytime they open it back up you get people playing on it.

>>47745763
>>47745621
>someone who goes out of his way to get you something
>a staff worker giving you something they know you like even though they don't have to
holy shit we are talking about a bag of potato chips.
>a staff member getting you a cup of coffee is totally different from a staff member getting you a bag of chips!!!
Actual autism. In any case, the manager also sometimes sends the clerk to get croissants for the employees.

>>47745811
Or they develop something like this which is just as likely: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smile_mask_syndrome
Koyori is already talking about having suffering from stress and depression on stream, most likely due to being forced to be cheerful all the time. Your idolshitter fake positivity is soulless corporate garbage.

>>47746361
I can tell you dont watch streams because you would never make this dumb assumption if you did.
You are just talking out of your ass like a retard and projecting hard, not actually understanding any of it.

>>47746285
>holy shit we are talking about a bag of potato chips.
Yeah, and clearly it had a big effect on Toko since she'd never experienced something like that before in Nijisanji. Why does this bother you so much that you feel the need to go
>B-BUT IT'S J-JUST A BAG OF POTATO CHIPS AAIEEEEE REEEEEEE
over and over? You're trying to downplay it so hard.
>a staff member getting you a cup of coffee
>just because the office has free coffee.
That's not what you said. The only autist here is you for trying this hard.

so many people defending Niji's management itt.

>>47735140
>>47746285
This is more bullshit from OP's SEAnigger ass too because he cut the part where she said Niji gives snacks too, just not from that brand. And Suisei complimented Niji staff on being more energetic and friendly than Cover's, but that doesn't fit the narrative so of course he's not going to mention it in the greentext for niggers who don't even bother checking out the full video.

>>47746361
>most likely
>I don't actually know but I'm going to play connect the dots and use that as my argument

>>47746789
Surely you can provide proof of this. Timestamp, clip, anything?

>>47746828
>streams every day for several hours
>puts on a fake ultra cheerful persona and doesn't break character
Yeah sorry for trying to point out the obvious cause

>>47746963
It's in the fucking video he linked. Watch the full thing. I'm not going to provide shit.

>>47746759
it's literally one intern samefagging the fuck you mean so many?

>>47746759
Saying "Nijisanji bad" is much easier than trying this route of "every company acts like Hololive and Nijisanji is the weird one for not doing this stuff"

>>47735007
>Pekora said in hololive they usually praise someone for something then the other party finds some other point to praise them back.
This scream artificial, at the very least it does for the second party since they have to find something to praise from nothing.

Oh wait no the HoloSEAS are just projecting their delusions onto the real world again. I'm sure in Japan of all places there totally a strong work culture of always praising coworkers.

>>47747447
praising one's hard work is perfectly normal in any industry. if anything Niu and crew are the weird ones

>>47736270
Amazing how accurate that post was. This thread is filled with it.

>>47747447
>>47736270

>>47747612
That's not what Pekora implied though. They make it sound like you get praised all the time no matter what.

>>47747731
Don't care what some numbernigger said.

>Pekora said in hololive they usually praise someone for something then the other party finds some other point to praise them back.
Why don't they praise each other every time they have a big tournament instead of making it into a drama because someone can't accept the fact that the other is better than them?
Mariokart,tetris...

>>47747734
I mean watch a holo stream of a collab of some game and take a shot every time they say "sugoi". You'll get drunk within a few minutes.

>>47747612
It's normal but if you think it happens in every company you're being naïve.

>>47746549
You are the ones acting llike it's something huge when it really isn't. If Toko was impressed it just shows how shit corporate culture is in Japan, which was the point I made.
>That's not what you said
I said that the office had free coffee, you assumed that I was talking about a coffee machine.

>>47747877
If you watch the stream they were doing it to the niji girls as well were they not let in on the script?

>>47746549
>>47747990
She was impressed because it was a snack from her favorite brand. She assumed it's because someone there watches her and knows her favorite snack (probably just coincidence though). She then said Niji leaves snacks too afterwards, but not from that brand.

>>47736068
>>47736323
Oshi no Ko is an anti-unicorn manga. It's an expose on the dark side of the idol industry, executives and fans alike. Retards here who think that Ai Hoshino forgiving her delusional fan for murdering her because of 'le contractual purity' completely missed the point of the first volume.

Also she got pregante at age 16 and yet some of the mongoloids here still point to her as a symbol perfect 'idolness'. Make of that what you will. And yes I know this is a bait post. Sage.

>>47747784
cared enough to reply

>>47747830
how do you know they dont? they probably do off stream retard

holokeks exploding because there are people that don't worship hololive lmao

>>47738044
I like how Pegora was like "A-ahh yes they don't know each other well yet that's why they don't talk to their managers" trying to help Niji save face but the thing is, their "new" manager has been there for 6 months now

>>47750450
>she doesn't worship hololive
imagine being such loser kek

>>47750073
I've been getting mixed signals on Oshi no Ko, but so far all of the idolfags I know that have actually been reading it well before the anime was announced really like it, a couple of whom are unicorns. Not to say that doesn't make it anti-unicorn, but I also don't think anyone saying such have given evidence they've been reading the manga.
I'm still up in the air on reading it myself since it actually seems like a manga specifically for idolfags, and I am not really one myself.

FUCK YOU HOLOKEKS

>>47750695
I'm catching up myself. The weakest part by far is the whole murder mystery reincarnation bullshit. The story is at its best when its shedding light on real issues like the cyberbullying arc that was based off the real world incident where a member of a Japanese reality show killed herself because of overwhelming online harassment.

The main protagonist is himself a unicorn, or at least a bit of a purity faggot. In his previous life he was the idol's gynecologist who was not happy at first to find out she was expecting. Ultimately he decides that so long as his beloved idol is happy then so is he, which is a pretty mature response.

Her killer on the other hand is a unicorn brought to an extreme. He kills her because he found out she had kids, he thought that she didn't give a shit about her fans, and because Japan doesn't believe in therapy. The manga does not paint him in anything but a negative light as it should.

Ultimately, whether or not OnK is anti-unicorn is a YMMV situation. Sorry that this turned into a bit of a ramble so have another Polka.

>>47750695
the mangaka collabed with a niji before and is making idol culture look bad. You shouldnt read it if you like hololive

>>47744749
i can't watch pekora and i imagine a fewer EOPs wouldn't either because she's got this super sly attitude where she plays dumb but always seems to be looking for the next barb. make no mistake, it's uncomfortable, but it's a me problem, because i'm saying she's actually smart as hell and she has the audience to match. i can't watch manipulators on her level because i always feel on edge. this conversation had it THICK AS TAR but she also kept trying to give them offramps which i really appreciate. she knew she'd be herself if given the opportunity so she kept trying to switch to something else. her attempts to offramp were very earnest.

>>47751244
>making idol culture look bad
It sheds light on the negative aspects of the industry and the fans. A lot of it is based on real happenings too:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stabbing_of_Mayu_Tomita
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assault_of_Maho_Yamaguchi

>>47751224
>>47751403
Source on the reality show suicide:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hana_Kimura

>>47750695
as someone who hates both idol culture (for many of the reasons OnK plays out) but also isekai, i was convinced to read it by my ridiculously attractive best friend (read between the lines) and the story really does draggggg. the isekai shit is weak which was good for me but may be bad for you, and the idol culture stuff was actually handled with some measure of nuance which didn't bother me one way or another, so ultimately i was just frustrated that nothing fucking happens. it spins its wheels. save your time.

>>47751573
Can it really be called isekai if you're just reincarnating into the same world within the same timeline?

>>47751244
The author of Oshi no Ko is a virtue signalling manchild who sugar coats whores in hopes of getting on their good side in hopes of getting into their panties.
That's the entire reason he made the manga.

>>47751244
>noo you can't bring up legitimate issues with a thing because i like it!
Literal child mentality

>>47751244
>making idol culture look bad.
No, this basic criticism is as old as the industry itself

Fuck all this gay shit, I'm so much closer to a Noel/Nui collab...seeing those jugs clash would creation a blackhole.

>>47751781
no, but then i'm not the one calling it that. like i said, it's really "weak" which is why i didn't have any problem with it.

>>47751812
pic is author's self-insert by the way

>>47735007
>>47735140

>>47752135
I just want Nui to recommend some RPGs to Noel.

>>47744623
This entire board is like that.

>>47753382
Ill take that and/or an asmr collab...imagine

Niji too many members and too fast it became in-house competition, they focus on putting down each other. Holo smaller and slower so everybody get to learn about the newbies, it also helped some members are literal fans of their senpais.

>>47755419
The same corporate bullshit of japanese working murai-shakai.

>>47746789
Yep, I remember this clip. Thanks for fighting the good fight.

>>47750073
It exposes the dark side of the entertainment industry in general, not just muh le heckin idol culture/industry. The Ai shit was just a way to lead into the story.

>>47735007
>>47736644
>>47737687
>>47737178
>>47739026
>>47739650
>>47740164
>>47745811


Retard here seem misunderstand what Pekora mean. The praise here is not normal praise like 'good job' but more akin to reddit doge meme like 'such amazing' 'many sugoi' etc etc. And they do it everyday. And remember, most Nijisanji are member of society. Some of livers have normal office jobs with normal social circle. So, the fact someone like Niu surprised and start questioning it implies that it was not normal. The only place where 'praising each other' that Pekora mentioned are normal are usually kindergarten, gameshow, or special need facilities.

>>47756387
so Hololive are shitposting to each other everyday while Niji lack any friendliness to do so? Man AnyColor a shit place to work at.

>gameshow schizo is still at it

>>47756387
>it's normal to be a douchebag in society, therefore being a douchebag is correct
Now I truly see

>>47736068
Aka is a cuck btw.

>>47750368
And crying on stream then posting controversial tweets? Why don't they do the opposite

>>47756881
If anything, it's Nijisanji who shitposting each other while Hololive being overly friendly to the point it's like a cult.
>>47757540
Not praising each other EVERY SINGLE DAY doesn't mean being doechebag. Seriously, where the hell do you work and live?

>>47735007
>>Pekora probably realizes this is getting uncomfortable so she said it's probably because Niji people are busy and don't have a lot of chance to talk to each other.
I love when Japanese people do this because it always manifests as something unintentionally sarcastic.

>>47757540
>Not praising someone every 30 seconds means youre a douchebag

>>47765403
>>47765846
>>47766053
samefag

>>47766187
Retard

>>47767224
nice edit

Why are you people so obcessed with making sure Cover looks like the better company, like they're in a superior axis of morality? They don't care about you, they're a multi-million dollar company who cares about their shareholders and profits. They're not your friend. And yet people constantly make these threads , to what end? Its the same with the countless threads complaining that a holo doesn't stream as much as you think she should, as if you were her boss or something. Most are about holos you clearly don't even like, so what do you care if she doesn't stream? Is it because its bad for the image of a company that doesn't even know you exist? Even if your Oshi is in Hololive, remember that its literally just her job. She just works for them. Your allegiance should be to your oshi, not to a souless corporation. And its always third-worlders who act like this, i say this as a thirld-worlder. I have observed this behavior from my people time and time again. I just don't understand, do you have so little that matters to you that you need to spend your energy defending a company?

Pekora will show these nijiwhore the light, in that stream they experienced simple zatsu while being watched by 50k people. Soon they will want another taste of it, quitting Nijisanji and hoping they could pull a Luna

>>47768699
trying to put value in cover stocks. Years of overselling and ipo still turned out to be disastrous

>>47768699
you are just projecting
most people praise holomen not the company

>>47769500
First off, how am i projecting? Do you even know what that means? Second, literally 80% of the posts in this board are a circlejerk of "hololive good, everyone else bad". People here seemingly don't even like vtubers, they like feeling superior because they like the "correct" vtuber brand.

>>47769500
Thread says different. Look at all these shills saying holo culture is better. Also they would praise the streamers because the company makes nothing impressive

>>47769660
>First off, how am i projecting? Do you even know what that means?
lol at the lack of self-awareness
>And its always third-worlders who act like this, i say this as a thirld-worlder. I have observed this behavior from my people time and time again.

>>47769688
All I see is a shill samefagging that niji culture is better and getting laughed at because of his "gameshow" cope.
Also it's not hard to say holo culture is better when talents are treated way better than in niji anonchama.

>>47767224
good job you know how to use inspect element

>>47735007
>>47738044
HOLY KEK
I hated this holoniji granblue thing but I'm starting to like it now

What's the point of this thread

>>47771338
The same as nearly every other thread like this on the board: to contain these people.

>>47765846
omg friendly bad, must hate each other. The amount of cope.

>>47770846
Lmao this retard doesn't even know if this is on browser or not

>>47772079
you seem upset at getting called out
guess it's true or you wouldn't be shitting your pants

>>47771775
NOOOO YOU MUST CONSTANTLY PRAISE AND LICK EACH OTHER ASSHOLE EVERY 30 SECOND LIKE IN MY LITTLE PONY OR YOU ARE ACTUALLY HATE EACH OTHER.

>>47771338
EOP tribalfag pillow fights, narrated and hosted by the voices in their heads
Just enjoy the show

>>47772379
You keep saying every 30 seconds but repeating it a million times won't make it any more true.

>>47772553
Does your work place praise you every single day every time you do something? You do work, right?

>>47772697
They don't praise each other every time they do something though.
>You do work, right?
I do yeah. Do you?

>>47772501
OP started it but can't finish it
maybe holofans shouldnt throw stones in their glass house

>>47773173
>nijinigs believing they're winning the arguments by keep saying "y-yeah so what"
rumao

>>47773173
From what I can see all OP did was post that Holo and Niji have different cultures, which isn't wrong, and then posted a link to the stream and what was said. Nijifans then took offense to that, as they are wont do, and have been trying to push that being friends with and friendly with your co-workers is somehow a bad thing this whole thread.
Besides, if anyone was the instigator it was the second post which was a new ip.

>>47772913
Do you think this
>Pekora said in hololive they usually praise someone for something then the other party finds some other point to praise them back.
Is normal to you? I'm not asking if that is good or bad. Even I personally think that is good. But is it normal?

>>47735140
>Everyone who goes to Hololive is impressed with their kindness and hospitality
>"Mel's manager really didn't need to offer us a broomcloset session with Mel so many times"
What did they mean by this?

>>47773666
Read the whole thread again. The argument is "Nijisanji who doesn't do what Hololive did is a horrible company and Hololives is the normal one" while the reality is Nijisanji is just your average company while Hololive is very closeknit and overly friendly. That is good but it's still not normal.

>>47773747
>Is normal to you?
Not in my line of work. But in theirs? When a big part of their job is doing idol reps, such as improving their singing and dancing, and they notice improvement in each other they'll naturally praise each other. I don't see what's wrong with that.
The thing is, we don't even know what "usually" means though. She didn't specify. Anons in this thread are just jumping to their own conclusions about what she meant with that.

>>47774151 (me)
>When a big part of their job is doing idol reps, such as improving their singing and dancing, and they notice improvement in each other they'll naturally praise each other. I don't see what's wrong with that.
This was just an example btw. Forgot to emphasize that.

>>47773988
Why is it "overly friendly" though? Just because it's not standard like Nijisanji? To me they're just friendly with each other. Because they're friends. I don't understand this obsession with "overly friendly".

>>47774364
You would know that in JP, Overly friendly is like a degree away from being backhanded or facetious. Whether its just a meme word here or the genuine thing has yet to be seen
It's mostly seen in Kyoto where basically everybody speaks in double speak and their overfriendliness is seen as unsettling

>>47774151
I can see that. Nijisanji also did that during live or 3D rehearsal. Most common are Shiishii and Uiha who often get praised for being good in Idol activity and dancing. Or Chima and Toko in singing. So it's not like Nijisanji never done it.

>>47773988
>Hololive is very closeknit and overly friendly.
that's to be expected since they work rather closely with each other
you can't expect 200 livers to be closeknit with each other and most of them stick to their cliques
>That is good but it's still not normal.
you say it's a good thing but you also say it's not normal, which sends a mixed message
which is it?

Continues to be relevant to this day.

>Niji and Holo fags keep trying to push "we're all friends teehee" narrative
Have you asshats learned nothing from either of the JP sagas? From Yugo and Sana, from Zaion and Rushia? Were Coco's warnings left to the deaf and blind?

>>47774890
shut the fuck up tatsunocucks, don't you have slaves to free right now?

>>47735007
>>47735140
>>47735179
Why do japs watch this slop?

>strawman argument
>samefagginf
nice try bud.

Complementing each other is woman thing.

>>47773173
more like you can't into simple facts that hololive has away beter working culture than nijisanji and try to cope in hilarious ways

>>47774364
Japan is a polite and friendly society. They have entire branch of grammar called keigo just to be polite. However, when a Nip start questioning your polite and friendly behavior like this.
>Nui expressed surprise in return, "Is this a thing people do?"
Then, you will realize something is off. here. /#/igger trying to gaslight /vt/ that Hololive is normal and Nijisanji is a black company for not doing what Hololive did.

>>47774705
There you go. Nijis do it too. Praising each other is not as uncommon as this thread would make it seem then. Maybe Nui and Yorumi just haven't been praised before? Kinda sad to think about.
At the end of the day I just don't see what the big deal is. Praising each other is fine, but if there are those who don't then that's fine too. I think it's way too easy to rile up either fanbase and a lot of times it's probably just someone who likes pitting the fanbases against each other. From what I've seen most threads like this are almost always posts taken straight from the /#/ thread. This board would be better off without that thread.

Why nijiniggers are like this…

>>47774890
Hu huh friend huh huh praising and just few days ago they were all blaming someone right in their friend company

>>47750073
Its an expose on the behind the scenes of the idol and afterwards, showbiz world. Not necessarily the dark sides.

>>47751026
So niji family is fake huh?

>>47768699
Seethe nijinigger

>>47769660
>everyone else bad
to be fair niji is really suck.

>>47774747
>you say it's a good thing but you also say it's not normal, which sends a mixed message
>which is it?
There is nothing contradict here. You can praise the wonderful culture of Best Korea and based Juche but it's still weird.

>>47740616
>Being nice to your coworkers may literally cost you your job.

>>47777930
but saying it's good only to say it's not normal immediately afterwards has a negative connotation to it
contradiction or not, it sends a mixed message

>>47751244
>making idol culture look bad
I mean, you fags are doing a bang up job of doing that yourselves. Basically showing everyone how deranged you idiots are.

>>47773988
>Nijisanji is just your average company while Hololive is very closeknit and overly friendly
I guess that's the reason why Hololive seems like one of the few JP companies in which employees don't sound miserable.

>>47738044
did people think when holos say "its like we are family", they are joking? holo has been the first one to break the whole strictness of vtubing, collabing whenever they want, joining on friends and hanging out with them anytime they feel like it. it used to be that there were a lot more procedures before a stream like that can happen.

>>47778443
kek

>>47735140
>best company, they really understand me
>5 dollar bag of chips
Sasuga nippon culture

Looks like Niji defense force's mission failed this time kek.

>>47735951
Thank Kiryu Coco
She also the one who crated this culture in Hololive.

>>47779629
How's the culture in Vshojo by the way? Needs some work there too?

Hololive
Gen 1 - too much drama from Chris and Aki was fallen by surgery. Not much contact with each other except Fubuki and Matsuri

Gen2 - The unrelated generation which keep distant except Choco and Subaru

Gen3 - The fantasy generation but they never created "praising each other" culture in Hololive.

Gen 4 - "praising each other" culture began here by Reddit dragon who "praising" most of her senpais after her's debut and became the therapist in Hololive.

Kiryu Coco's positive trait creates "praising each other" culture in Hololive.

T. Old guard from 2019

>>47774799
>Mod delete anything slightly critical of people like mori or gura
there has been 18 gura bait threads at the same time in one day at one point, the norm was 8-10 when she was on break, but even before that most of the shit on catalog was Hololive bait threads and doxx posting for HOURS
>Nijis get hate here for shit that Hololive does regularly
Hololive never talked about how iluna or soleil are not doing as well as expected, they never dogpilled on a chuuba and unpersoned
>b-but rushia
there's VIDEO evidence of her leaking shit to krkr, also you can see on sakisei streams where their room backgrounds have rushia, not a butterfly or some resemblance of it, there's literally a rushia plushie or image there, Ollie recently talked about her, so did sankisei
>Then they'll keep posting pippa numbers against a smaller niji like aia or kyo,while ignoring all the Holos that are doing equally low
Nigga.... this hasn't been true for a loooong time, not even fucking Iofi is as low as them.

>>47779994
They are better than before.
I think they are creating "praising each other" culture in Vshoujo and success in some degree.

>>47735007
Hugbox “we are a family “ feel company is complete shit too

>>47779994
Better and I like Silvervale x Nazuna friendship. Kson and Zen also become Gundam comrade recently.

man, knowing about behind the scenes Niji culture from the Nijis themselves is kinda whack and what the fuck did they mean by "we don't talk to anyone outside collabs" that's just sad

>>47780215
Nah...
Kiryu Coco tried to make Hololive her's real family by Holohouse. It's not company shit but Coco's last wish

>>47780027
>2019
>old guard
Then again I guess going off of the quality of discourse in this thread, that sounds about right

>>47780456
This right here.

>>47780296
Don't shows proof. Hololive is now a public company now. Enjoy the same treatment as Nijisanji right now. They don't have nothing. Is all garbage now in Hololive.

>>47779994
if you are a member and don't follow what the others do they will stab back like what happened with silver and fruit

>>47780296
It's more rare to have an interaction outside of collaboration to begin with.

Basically, Japan separates business and personal relationships and does not interfere with each other.

Hololive is just thorough in its business interactions.

>>47780966