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Half the relevant chuubas are Japs anyways, you're not a clipfag right anon?

>> No.47611179

>>47610999
Half ? I would say at least 80%

>> No.47611365

Unironic weebs need to go back to >>>/jp/. This is an EOP neighborhood.

>> No.47611464

>>47611365
Just say you can't into Jap anon.

>> No.47611648

>>47610999
I welcome this! Let's goddamn GO!

>> No.47611652

>>47611464
you can't into Jap anon

>> No.47611946

Finally a good thread
Might improve the state of the board if it works

>> No.47611973

>>47610999
you should go back to /jp/

>> No.47612568

There was a 1view that used to do minute Japanese lessons. You won't learn instantly ofc but multiple resources can help.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SnmkjD4E0DQ&list=PLKcyYQEPXg3ehz4oC717yc26A5jeBtA7D

>> No.47612747

>>47610999
Finally, a good thread.
I unironically use Anya for JP reps because she enunciates it well.,

>> No.47612768

>>47612568
Pretty interesting especially for the hiragana and katakana but after that it seems like it's not really language learning but just learning sentence out of context

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>> No.47612826

>>47612774
Unironically some JP shiikuin teamed up to translate this

>> No.47612879

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lU5rmrAORDY&list=PLg9uYxuZf8x_A-vcqqyOFZu06WlhnypWj&index=4
Cure dolly unironically count as an OG vtuber

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>>47612879
https://youtube.com/watch?v=pSvH9vH60Ig
My oshi...

>> No.47613324
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It took me 2 years until I realized how good anki can be. You just have to install a bunch of addons, extensions and note types. Can be a pain but once I did it, it made the workflow actually enjoyable. I literally spent the last 2 years using everything but anki because I hated how it looked and operated. Now I can finally say goodbye to:
wanikani
bunpro (honestly pretty useful, but time to go)
memrise
migaku
kaniwani
all the other shit which costs and isn't as effective

>> No.47613331

>>47612879
>>47613046
Cure dolly is literally a schizo

>> No.47613614

>>47610999
Good thread, there's nothing wrong with wanting to better yourself.

>> No.47613879

>>47613324
What is so good about anki, I never used it after 1 year of reps ?

>> No.47615046

>>47612774
this was translated 12 mins after being posted

>> No.47615695

>>47610999
I support people doing their reps, but really you may as well use /jp/ or /int/'s /djt/ instead. /jp/'s already seems to be chuuba-centric on the occasion I look at it.

>>47613879
nta but if you're a lazy piece of shit like me, it keeps you from lapsing too much when you go long periods of not properly consuming content. It also makes it easier to retain words that don't appear often enough on their own to remember, but often enough it's worth knowing.
If you're going hard on properly reading/watching nip stuff every day, then it won't benefit much. Unless your retention is absolute garbage, like mine is.

>> No.47615873

>>47615695
Some people only use this board anon, besides it may improve the board quality, even if just by a little bit.

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>>47610999
hey I support wanting to have one of these
I've tried making some in times prior

>> No.47616778

>>47610999
>you're not a clipfag right anon?
no, i just pretend she's talking to me the entire stream

>> No.47616895

>>47615695
If we do a /djt/ thread here that will probably motivate some people to learn Japanese

>> No.47617081

>>47615873
>besides it may improve the board quality, even if just by a little bit.
Maybe it would. But what this board needs is more jannies.

>> No.47617171

>>47615873
I suppose, though won't hold any expectations.
I propose we share some JP clipping channels, and potentially make a pastebin of them for the OP. Having a transcript helps a fuck tonne for me.
Here's a dump if the ones I use, most of which are holo-centric. I need to look for some 774 related ones if they exist. I focus on channels that don't add excessive or overly loud sfx. That shit is an immediate close from me.
https://pastebin.com/PjNSSwTE

>> No.47617410

>>47617171
I'll add it to the next OP, along with some chuubas who do Japanese lessons, everything helps after all and this is a Vtuber board.

>> No.47617525

>>47617171
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHU-PbGzuV4iVyhr0lYUuMQ/videos

Here's one I use

>> No.47617962

>>47610999
Good thread, I hope it's here to stay.
I'd like to share my progress, 6 months in with lots of procrastination, but in another 2 days, I'll finally be done with the N5 tango deck.

>> No.47618280

>>47617962
>N5 tango deck.
Is that a 1k deck?

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>>47615873
This

>>47617171
Thanks for the list m8

>> No.47618714

>>47618280
It has 1200 cards, so I guess it is?

>> No.47618738
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Like anon told me I started using anki, it will take a lot of time for all these kanji

>> No.47619090

>>47617525
Thanks, I always appreciate new clipping channels that don't use sfx all over the place.

>> No.47619239

>>47619090
Yeah. Maybe I would appreciate EN clip channels more if there less obnoxious, clickbaiting and ESL driven.

>> No.47619270

Based thread, hope this sticks around

>> No.47619756

Not sure how useful this is but here's the refold jp1k deck
(nyaa)view/1452305

>> No.47620577

>>47619756
Nice. I heard they made an updated one in 2022 though?

>> No.47622295

いいスレだ
頑張れよ、外人くん!

>> No.47622862

>>47610999
if i learn Nihongo will my oshi date me?

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>>47622862
Well put it this way. She's more likely to date you than if you didn't know nihongo

>> No.47624205

>>47622862
Learning Japanese will give you a non-zero chance of going out with your oshi.

>> No.47625833

>>47610999
Good thread, hopefully some EOP's start learning JP.

>> No.47627591

>>47622862
Only one way to find out.

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>>47622862 (me)
my oshi is haachama btw

>> No.47629291

>>47612774
this stinky orca is very cute

>> No.47630154

>>47628834
The point still stands, you'll have a greater chance of going out with her if you know how to Nip.

>> No.47630722

>>47612568
https://youtu.be/rR-KuFNHvQw

>> No.47631146

>>47630722
This is the DJT thread anon, we don't care about anything other than the chuubas Jap lessons in here anon.

>> No.47631164

>>47630722
aw I thought it was gonna be a cover of the kim possible intro

>> No.47631454

>>47630722
I'm supposed to care why? I'm not giving her sups and she doesn't even stream anymore from the looks of things.

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>> No.47631652

>>47610999
Put a thread number
Make it thread #1, link previous threads after like in /jp/

>> No.47631771

>>47631557
Will learning Japanese help me seduce Korone?

>> No.47632308

>>47631652
Should have probably done that starting with this thread, but yeah that's the plan.

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>>47612774
I know Chloe is an extreme example. But written japanese may as well be Arabic to me. It usually looks a mess and can't usually make out anything people write, unless it's like a computer font.

>> No.47632373

There needs to be a better DJT. The /jp/ one is dogshit. It was comfier on /a/ a billion years ago.

>> No.47632385

Good thread. I appreciate it.

>> No.47633057

Why didn't anyone ever tell me the okurigana meant things.
This whole time 600 vocab words in I thought they were just random extra letters. I probably could have had a million times easier of a time learning vocabulary.

>> No.47633222

>>47633057
How did you manage to read the kanji but not the kana

>> No.47633483
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47633483

I guess we can start from here
https://imgur.com/a/tbWjC

>> No.47633653

>>47628834
She's dead anon...

>> No.47633765

>>47632373
Every board and general gets progressively worse.

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>>47633483
I'll ask, because its interesting to see how this varies. How long did it take you to learn the kana? (properly, where you could recall it perfectly every time). I'd say about 2-3 weeks for me. I would sit down at a park bench and write down anecdotes for each one.

>> No.47634339

>>47632310
you need read more

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47634672

Please share site where you can watch child(子供) show like Anpanman, Doraemon, etc for free

>> No.47634715

>>47634184
nta but it probably took me 2-4 weeks as well when I finally started working on it consistently. I just did some grinding in the morning at my first job since I went in about an hour earlier than most everyone else. I used one of the kana grinding sites, though I think the OP link has its own these days. I think I added a couple of rows each day and went until 100+ kana read correctly, increasing that number each day after all kana were in rotation.
I am god awful at rote memorization, but none of the usual methods meant to help with learning really work with me either, so I am stuck with this. Someone could probably easily grind them out and memorize them within a week or two if they did what I did two or three times a day instead.
Keeping at it for 3 years with minimum effort most days has let me get good enough to at least play the Dragon Quest games, with no need for guides from IV onward too. If I actually tried to force myself to read a news article or two a day I'd probably be much further along.

>> No.47634908

>>47634672
Don't watch children's shows, they aren't easy for foreigners, they're easy for native children, which is extremely different. Just pick something you really like and start watching with Japanese subs you can yomichan or read digitally. everything can be found on the link at the top or moeway etc.

>> No.47636094

>>47634672
I echo what the other Anon said. It's best you just choose something you really like and watch that. Kids shows are going to bore you to death and even as a beginner you might not understand much, which can become demoralizing considering its for children. At least with regular content you'll be engaged. That said, if you really want to watch them then there's some torrents available on nyaa. There's even a Doraemon one with 400 episodes in it.

>> No.47637108

>>47633653
n-no she's not!!! i still believe!

>> No.47637581

>>47634908
>>47636094
Thanks anon well I only interesting in Anpanman bc It's Aria's(vtuber) favorite anime

>> No.47639882

>>47634184
3 weeks
But honestly I was just lazy because it's by far the most boring part of learning Japanese

>> No.47640749

>>47637581
you're kinda out of luck then, unless you want to use eng sub streaming sites and just use something like snipaste to cover the subs portion of the video up digitally, you're just gonna need to download it or use a VPN and a normie streaming service to watch it

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>>47613046
>>47613331
A literal schizo who does a good job teaching.

>> No.47643286

>>47610999
How hard would it be for a spanish speaker to learn even basic grammar? Also considering that I only know english because of the internet and not actual proper study.

>> No.47643727

>>47643286
Japanese grammar is way more simple and logical than Spanish grammar especially for verb tenses (I studied Spanish so I know how much difficult are verb tenses), but it's totally different because Japanese is an isolated language. So it depends on if you can actually easily learn new way of seeing sentence

>> No.47644578

>>47643286
It shouldn't be too hard, unlike the Germanic v Latin in the west with regards to learning German or French as an English or Spanish speaker, you shouldn't have more issues or problems learning the language as a spanish speaker since Japanese is an isolated language with no ties to western languages, so long as you are able to memorize the kanas, kanji, sentence structures and grammar you should be fine, and you'll have no more problems than an English speaker trying to learn Japanese. Just remember to not give up on learning it, as it's very easy to just give up on learning the language and that's what most people end up doing.

>> No.47644777

>>47644578
>>47643727
Thank you friends, I'll try my best not to butcher the langauge.

>> No.47645156

>>47643286
No more issues than a native of any other non asian language. Only reason Japanese is considered to be so hard for everybody but the chinese basically is because you don't have the latin/germanic language family buff where you get tens of thousands of words basically for free, Kanji also makes things harder but it wouldn't be as big of an issue if we all started out with a ton of free words. Also being bilingual is a buff, you've already done it once, so you know that you can do it and how you did it, which is already better than 99% of people who expect that they can just use duolingo or a textbook and do nothing else

>> No.47647848

>>47610999
nice

>> No.47648009

>>47632310
If you can't read hand writting well it's probably because you can't write them well
Just write kanji and kana with the right stroke order and you will be able to recognize hand writting easily

>> No.47650427

>>47643286
>Also considering that I only know english because of the internet and not actual proper study.
Learning a language like this is honestly better than learning it the "proper" way since you're being exposed to the "real" language that people actually speak instead of things specifically written to be taught. Luckily for us we are on a board dedicated to basically the best immersion material for learning Japanese outside of flying to Japan. Get yourself some basics under your belt then watch vtubers all day while keeping up your reps and you're golden.
t. ESL who learned English watching Minecraft videos

>> No.47651188

>>47610999
Add Cure Dolly's Japanese from scratch playlist. The dead doll was practically a vtuber and actually better for beginners than shit like Tae Kim.

>> No.47652624

>>47645156
On the other hand you do get tons of words for free - if you get the Jap's retarded pronunciation rules for foreign loan words. Sometimes it feels like every second word I see used in nip land is some form of fucked up stolen eigo. Sometimes when I forget the nip word I try the English word in nip speak and more often than not it ends up working

>> No.47652745

>>47640749
>you're kinda out of luck then
I found this site (^o^)b they don't have jpsub but its fine I watch some ep and understand 80-90%
https://archive.org/details/anpanmanepisodes/

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