/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Does Astel have a relationship with ayame's mama, nana?

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

https://youtu.be/uufYaf2azHI

>>47600738
Towa...

sex with this hag

What happened to Botan, she's reclined below Watame nowadays lmao gen 5 literally has no stars compared to every other gen

155K!
Holobronies are silent
Potential beating Marine showa

118k DOORRRRYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>47600874
Post graph

165k!!!
Ichimin status?

gokishit

By the way, these are the NijiEN for today.
Yes, you’re seeing that right. Not a single stream has broken 3k today.

>>47600911
why so gay?

>>47600922
Miload....

>>47600874
>>47600910
Shut up retard

>>47600896
Keep posting actual number anon

Top 10 of Niji In terms of CCV
Toya
Kuzuha
Lauren
FUWA
Salome
Yashiro
Mito
Hayato
Lize
Kanae

TWO MORE WEEKS!

bros why do these dudes in the 3d "live" put their hands to their faces like women whenever they score a bullseye. are men in japan like this

245k doryaaaaaaaa
nousakek status?

>schizo thread
Why does this always happen even if Niji wins?

>>47600950
who's this?

>>47600979
Kobo

the fuck, the company is monetizing the images from the animation gift from ibrahim lmao

>>47600973
hehe

https://holo.poi.cat/stream/n6yep2gl1HY
>Subaru doing the same content
>only 110k peak
First Army status??

>>47600973
Because holonignogs are seething, as usual

So Subaru wins the Hololive gold?

>>47600950
Kobo? She only needs 4-5 more days to reach 2M. Might be faster if she does karaoke countdown

>>47601008
so NFT

>>47600948
so weak honestly, like only 1/3 of them could break 15k realiably and the "top" of niji only amounts to mid tier holos who could get 10ks easily

>>47601008
Yes, who would buy an art book? Crazy concept.

>>47600997
kek she's going to hit 2M already?

>>47601008
smart business decision

>>47600973
Holokeks can't help themselves.
Imagine melting down because some dude gets decent viewership in his annual celebration day

Can't tell if this is too few likes or not since no one likes members streams anyway.

>>47601008
ibrahim had no say in this btw

Holostars merch is not THAT homogenized, the fourth item seems to be somewhat custom at least

>>47601008
sasuga NFTsanji

>>47601067
He literally shilled those in streams anon

>>47601061
Shilling 3 views.

>>47601078
so either the bag or a tshirt

>>47601008
So, an art book?

>people still sleeping on NFTs
It's like Holokeks haven't learn from their IPO cognitive dissonance

>>47601078
So, some validity to issues wrt stars custom merch, but notcl completely.

>>47601106
There might be more variations, who knows

>>47600950
Kobo will be the second non-convert who doesn't have 3D when reaching 2M.

https://youtu.be/IDMOI3Luh2Q
How does this make you feel anon?

>>47601078
2020 HoloJP girls had to settle for far worse and back then they already had 5views. Homostars have it easy.

>>47601124
Apparently selling an art book = NFTs.
Hope Nijisanji will accept my Holocoins as payment.

>>47600952
No, but yes if you want to attract a shit ton of lonely OLs and underage girls

>>47600922
how does this happen?

>>47601181
are they really that desperate? lmao

>>47601181
How long until they sell discord sex?

My wifeRyS

>>47601153
no fucking way.. it's obviously an act at this point right?

>>47601201
it's somehow 5 hours of sex bait, and yet at the same time fails to break 4 digits
literally how?

Subaru grooming season 2...?
https://youtu.be/P2-Msl9l4-0

120k DOOORRRYAAAAAAAA

>>47601173
popped in to see what they were doing, and kuzuha scored a bullseye and alternated between putting his hands up to the sides of his face and covering his mouth. jesus what faggy behavior

https://youtu.be/QjwQhNQdBe8
>4.5k
Who this?
She had vtuber content for months now, but this is the first public stream on YT.
>Facebook link in the bio
Well known Taiwanese vtuber?

Fuwa, Kuzuha, Toya, and Kanae btw

>>47601153
Nothing. The act is getting too obvious and it's getting old.

>>47601266
the yumes/fujo favorites

>>47601266
za boys btw, weaker than a miko birthday

>>47601230
seems like people really dont care about her

>>47601181
imagine coombaiting and still flopping

>>47601153
how do you keep falling for this shit

Peanut127K> KING+Kanae+Fuwa121K
Chinman, comeback to Homoland...

>>47601291
They're just sitting down for a host club karaoke to be fair.

>>47601008
Nice NFTs, sisters. In Riku we trust BTW.

>>47601266
Bringing all the big guns

>>47600845
she lives in hong kong so no

121k GETTT

hey guys I found where the niji defence force went to
>>47598006
>>47598006
>>47598006

i honestly thought this was going to get 150k with this lineup. what were the predictions in the previous threads.

Can't beat Homo.
Kneel to PeaNut god.

>>47601335
she gets more supas than anyone in HoloEN

Kuzuha looks so out of place among the suits.

>36k peak
WHAT THE FUCK HAPPENED TO PEKOLA???

>>47601370
Cute silly Hag

>>47601442
that was also my thought, i mean seriously though
Toya, Kuzuha, Kanae, Fuwa, Hayato and others, that top tier guest

>>47601464
She got what she wanted early

>>47601442
60k, he did 35k last year so this was a tremendous incline.
90k+ new viewers between 2022-2023

>>47600825
I'm impressed how this garbage general has such great OP images

>>47601153
If this isn't an actual bit at this point, then someone needs to haul her out back and put her down for chronic lack of knowledge.

>>47601432
the fall of luxiem is so funny to see

How is Pekora losing to Subaru and with a pretty big gap at that? It's 36K to 50K, I checked the Vrabi of the Niji who collabed with Subaru, she is nothing but a 3k shitter

so /#/ is sociabuzz better that SC because my oshi always read socialbuzz before SC

>laplus 1.8k
Did she yabbed again?

>>47601442
actually dissapointed, they throw all the big guns and still...

>>47601536
>fall of luxiem
still swimming in fujobucks tho

>>47601513
disengenous information, last year was not a 3d live, also he did a 3d live with akina that hit 94k

>>47601153
>Bae didn't know that Sonic was originally a video game...
>until she started streaming
Eh, I think this one is believable

>>47601513
what 35k are you referring to? are you referring to this solo 2d variety stream that he did?

>>47601447
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

>>47601578
???????

>>47601592
the cope thread is over there anon >>47601432

>>47601523
Go back.

>>47600922
NijiEN gamers will save them

>>47601536
The fall of luxiem is like looking at Mori's numbers, but times that by 5. It's actually incredible to witness.

It seriously isn't talked about enough here how at one single point in time, Nijisanji had an entire monopoly on male vtubing in both the east and west, AND had the biggest vtuber in the entire world in Salome. And somehow BOTH fucking destroyed their entire careers. A disasterclass like nothing witnessed before

>>47601447
False. Also, Gura can mog the shit out of her with a single bag, but keep bragging about how Neal and Riku get richer.

>>47601640
She's streaming on twitch, usually averaged 4-5k

>>47601181
Check out her superchats

>>47601549
She’s likely indo, no? There was no SC for ID up until very recently, they had to use either streamlabs or socialbuzz

>>47601592
Are you sure about that?

>>47601665
Salome's case was nijisanji's management just being incompetent as fuck

>>47600922
yikes forever

>>47601704
you mean these superchats?>>47601630

>>47601630
TELL DOWN PICTURE NOW

Seems about right.

What will the cope be when Kobo passes Pekora and Marines sub count this year?

>>47601640
>>47601578
Oh, she's on Twitch. Anon, if you hadn't mentioned it, I wouldn't have known she was streaming right now. She didn't even fucking TWEET this shit, only people who have actually followed her on Twitch will even have gotten a notification.
Also
>Valorant

>>47601710
>nitpicking phasefag
go back

>>47601630
>>47601710
OH NO NO NO NIJIBROS OUR COPE

>>47601681
I need Holosummer already so I can get Lamy in a swimsuit.

>>47601741
What's the matter, don't like getting your bullshit exposed?

>>47601741
nijiseethe

>>47601681
Yea, I just checked, she hasn't even tweeted anything, so only the few who actually bother to Follow her on Twitch would even know she's playing Valo rn.

Fuwa did 7M yen (52k USD) in SC so far, the highest in April and behind that on nijiJP male 3D debit that gets 190k USD a few months ago

>>47601630
To be fair the anon said she gets more supas, not necessarily more money from supas. Like that chart shows her with 5.7k individual superchats, more than Fauna and IRyS combined. So she has a fuck ton of poorfags and/or she milks the whole blue wave superchat during bathroom breaks like Coco did.

>>47601708
yup,is the cut the same for streamlab,sosialbuzz and SC?

>>47601767
oh so pippa gets that consistently? phasefag pls, she gets a fraction of that (both ccv and supas)

jwu no en3?

>>47601797
to be fair nijiseethe and cope

Oh I just noticed Reddit reset their banner.
Potential EN3 or JP7?

It might have peaked already, gotta give it to Nijis this time: chart smooth and clear, no worms or Zs so far

>>47601796
to the suprise of no one. that female fanbase really like to burst their SC in one go

>>47601540
Subaru is collab, doing gacha and waiting room for other streams. While Pekora overlapped by MC collab stream

>>47601812
YouTube takes a bigger cut than the other two

>>47601710
>Nitpicking this Pippa biggest leeching vs random shit game

>>47601838
Losing against Pekora solo game stream?

some juicy bits from the cope thread

>>47598276
>>47598532
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRMIFwhveeU&t=2563s
>I know that probably when we do this next karaoke, it'll probably be even bigger than that because we're so much larger in number now
>That was when we were almost at 600k and now we're past a million, almost double that
>...And so it'll be bigger
>The fact is, when you set the bar for yourself, suddenly, you start to feel less okay with smaller streams, you know
>And then suddenly you start having less fun
BHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH HE LITERALLY SAID HE START HAVING LESS FUN WITH LESS NUMBERS LMAOOOOOO

>>47601826
See >>47601834
Any minute now.
let it go, Fagoo doesn't give a shit about EN if it's not homos

>>47601665
They pushed too many males in such a short period of time in the English market. It pissed off the core viewership EN vtubers while management from Anycolor and Cover never stopped to realize that there was only so many male vtuber fans. Throw in how fickle they are and we’re seeing a crash. But will management from both companies have the courage to get rid of them once they no longer being in money and become liabilities?

>>47601879
>I-I-I-It doesn't count!

>>47601812
Youtube takes 30%, the other two takes 5%

>>47601153
I actually don't blame her for this because Sonic has lost most of its relevance as a video game IP due to Sega spamming shitty/mediocre games. Nowadays, the franchise is more known for its cartoons/movies and other multimedia properties and that's probably how Rrat found out about it.

>>47601903
I don't even watch en anymore i just want to see how new girls would affect the market if any desu. Part of me feels like we might get shit grimmer than Kiara if holoEN interest has waned enough

>>47601898
Anon, why you gotta pull that shit out again, we already went over this when he actually said it live and laughed at him once.

>>47601898
why are you posting it here?

>>47601920
it has nothing to do with the number of male vtubers and more to do with the fact that they never caught on in their primary target market and got popular more or less by accident in a secondary market that don't speak their language. Them going full tilt on talent debuts is actually one of the better ways to try and keep a hold of that audience that they gained, but since nijisanji just fucking sucks at creating an ecosystem it didn't actually work and this is just the end result of going viral but failing to turn that virality into anything more substantial.

> If vtuber agency were a football club, which club would it be ?
>Nijisanji maybe united...???? Hololive feels like city to me lmao
WELLLLLLLL NUMBERFAGS!?!?

I say Nijisanji truly is ManU, living off the glories of their past while Hololive is peak Ronaldo’s (CR7) Real Madrid

>>47601950
>Sonic 06 has entered the chat
Brrr.....yea, I really don't blame the Rat, sonic games after that disaster.....

>>47601920
They have contracts so doubt it. Plus trying to sack any talents without a good reason is bound to be bad PR even if most fans are indifferent to them. They might cut off further support and let it wither ala NijiID but I sincerely doubt they will just ax the ENstars/NijiEN males

>>47601996
because nijiseethe and cope

>>47601952
sure anon, whatever makes you happy, mr. analyst man

Easy here or you will feel wrath of nijijanny

>>47601965
just because it's been done once doesn't mean it isn't worth doing again

>>47602048
holy cringe, this can't be real

>>47601903
he doesnt have control anymore on who debuts

>>47601935
And Vox did the chraity stream using SC.
Just copy what Ame did, she got 200K+$

Fubuki lewds today.

>>47601528
anon, there hasn't been a good sonic video game made in the last 20 years, it wouldn't be surprising if anyone born after 9/11 has never touched a sonic game in their life and has only ever watched the cartoons/movies

>>47601878
>>47601935
ow okay thanks anon

>>47602012
i don't know foosball lingo, is being compared to city good?

>>47602048
he got fired already

>>47602012
Kiara's worth is more than $500M

>>47601920
Nijisanji, sure, that's their entire model after all
Cover tho? Not so much
Unless the entire branch goes against management CN style, I don't see any chance of them getting canned by Cover

>>47601838
>prepares to sing
>numbers go down
well at least holo and niji have some unity...

>>47601549
Socialbuzz takes 5% of the donations so yeah it is better

>>47602098
City is so awful they had their own /sp/ meme that became a site wide meme

>>47601920
So what you're saying is that Tempus killed Luxiem and co?

So 122k is the combined power of Nijis first army on a buff channel? Is that good or bad compared to other Niji and Holo concerts?

>>47602090
I really want to argue against this, but it hurts too much because it's too true. Sigh, bloody hell. Going 3d really messed with how the games flowed, and even the best ones (SA/SA2) have janky AF camera issues.....

>>47600948
will be interesting if yashiro plays tears of the kingdom on release
some of his botw streams were gigabuffed, but i suppose it'll be harder since everyone will stream it at the same time

>>47602174
Nah, the radio star was already dead long before this.

>>47602181
its pretty meh to be honest, I was expecting around 150k

>>47602090
>>47602184
sonic frontiers, Sonic generations, and sonic unleashed. People just like to meme sonic bad to get internet clout.

>>47601549
>so /#/ is sociabuzz better that SC
No, because no one uses that shite
Sociabuzz is good if you're a very very very very small vtuber

>>47602174
you doubted his plan?

>>47602118
I don't expect this place to have integrity, so I'm calling bullshit on that one.

>>47602181
confusing i guess considering that low tier niji got 121k on her channel, then again that was NIJIGAMERS 1st 3d live that they are all present

>>47602186
Gonna be tricky, I theorize that it'll have the same viewership trends as Elden Ring, where those that start on release day are actually going to be a bit lower until people actually get a chance to sink their teeth into the game to avoid spoilers.

122k peak for Fuwa today
9.1M yen in SC, probably will pass 10M yen when it's done processing.
For comparison Korone had 110k peak with 1M yen in SC and Subaru also has 110k peak with 2.2M yen in SC

>>47601464
She has no people to leech anymore

>>47601920
I don't think it's that. Even if they didn't do as well as they expected, Noctx wasn't a complete flop. It was the mixed gens that completely bombed

>>47602181
Pretty shit numbers ngl. Where are the other 200k+ Koshien tourists?

>>47602243
At best, colors falls closer to good than not.

>>47602243
Sonic generations is only good because of the nostalgia factor and them more or less copying the last good sonic game. Also
>Sonic frontiers
>sonic unleashed
>good

>>47601540
Slipkora

>>47601153
>she didn't know sonic was a game after she start streaming
This is believable, do you think a girl who does basketball, dancing squad and mountain climbing on the weekend would know about a boomer game?

>3D live
>Start singing
>viewership decreases
Why does this happen?

>>47601920
Cover management would need to be clinically braindead to insist on EN homos after the meteoric flop that is Tempoop.

>>47600825
>>47600851
I just came here to say: fang qiao Vtuber when? She can be a Rikotan type Vtuber.

>>47602181
akina, one of the higher males, had a 3d live with 4 guests on 4/10. of the 4 guests, one of them was only noteworthy, which was fuwa. he got 91k peak (which was the song with fuwa btw).

>>47602019
And anon, that was literally 17 years ago.

>>47601950
Yeah I can kiiinda see this one. If she really didn't play games that much (which given everything about her upbringing i believe) then I could see someone missing that because whatever games were releasing at the time she was growing up were complete crap

>>47602371
Choose one
>Tab out
>Filtered by singing.

>>47602289
Can he beat Flare in the SC total rankings?

>>47602181
If nijiJP can get these kind of numbers outside of 3D debuts annually, then holoJP is officially beaten at their own game.
Only Marine, Suisei, Pekora, and Miko ever get higher than him for an annual 3D live and there's a lot of other NijiJP that has higher viewership than him like Kuzuha, Toya, Salome, and Lize

>>47602399
Yea, which would've been right when she was a kid, and everything after that, well, I don't blame anyone for not wanting to talk about Sonic games>>47602399
after sonic 06.

>>47602181
Akina got 91k last week with Minato as top guest.
I expected the fujos to go ham with Toya, Kuzuha, Kanae and Hayato being there.

>>47602458
im sure holoJP are quaking in their boots.

>>47602422
Women are spenders. Men are savers.
Women will always spend more money than men.

In America for example, most money is earned by men. But 80% of the money is SPENT by women. Women are addicted to spending money and have very little restraint. This is why women will always donate more than men, and why male vtubers will always be more valuable than female vtubers of the same size

>>47602422
Flare dropped to 16th?
She was top 10 for so long.

Niji excels at promoting homos and hololive on females
I think they should trade
Hololive for girls only agency
Nijisanji for homos only agency

eh RUST is buff
why holostars not join to get some tourists

>>47602535
Wasn't she on break for two weeks?

>>47602528
Yes that's about what I expect when I see a nijiJP 3D live, Fuwa's 122k today was off the charts in terms of numbers

>>47602535
I did not remove fleshtubers.

>>47602541
Would be really hype.
Ofc former Nijis and Stars still allowed to cross collab, for the best of both worlds.

>>47602541
>Niji excels at promoting homos
Did you even see their latest NijiJP wave?

>>47602458
including lize means you are dumb bastard who spout nonsense. lize had her 3d live with sanbaka and it was only 65k.

>>47601078
I can't imagine the shitshow when Hakka has to shill his acrylic panel, badge, keychain and 4th item.

>>47602458
you mean Holo first army individualy with other guest > Niji first army combined?

>>47602573
Still is, but that's overall SCs.
She didn't fall 6 places just because she didn't stream now.
>>47602573
She was ahead of most fleshtubers outside of the 2 bishops and that KR channel.

>>47602532
Too many words to just say you're a retard.

Why do sisters like to splurge on superchats? Do the male NijiEN livers acknowledge those superchats on stream?

>>47602599
Tbh i already forgot about them after 2 days shilling on this board.

>>47601153
I hate that voice. She didn't use to talk like that during the Collab with Pekora.

>>47602541
Niji supports like 5 males on Kuzuha clique. The other males are pretty much non-factor.

>>47602612
I know anon, that's why it was surprising to see that Fuwa even passed 100k. Nijisanji 3D lives doesn't usually get numbers because their viewers are largely casuals and normies that doesn't usually watch those. If these types of content inclined so hard for NijiJP that they can get 100k+ regularly like Fuwa did today, then holos would be beaten at their own game.

>>47602687
are you mad they mog your oshi's earnings?

So Fuwa new cover, can it beat Kuzuha's record to 1M?
Or at least beats Mito's latest cover.

okay, when was the last time fubuki did a 3D live?
like an actual concert.

Total numberfag genocide

>>47602654
I am right anon. Women are much more inclined to spending money. This is a fact.
This is why male vtubers are proportionately more valuable.

>>47602687
10M yen SC is about what I expect for a non farmed 100k+ stream from anyone, that's just like 100 yen per concurrent viewers.

>>47601153
Irrationally angry because at this point she’s just lying

>>47602009
If you include Luxium, those two companies debut 24 male vtubers to the EN market within a year. That’s an absurd number. They never debuted that many female talents in a year.

>>47602762
Why did they name him fungus covid though? Even his branchmates make fun of his name.

>>47602687
SC is unironically the best way to give them money other than buying voice packs. That's how much Niji fucks over their organs.

>>47602762
>fatgur drinking a glass of high-fructose corn syrup

hopefully the fujobucks can fund his gastric bypass surgery

Mito my beloved

>>47602762
Top Nijimales can't even beat Lamy and Kanata in total SCs.

>>47602458
Wasn't it a 3D debut? It lost 3/5 of HoloX's debuts, so not really the big deal you're making it out to be, shitposter-kun.

>>47602761
you're really dumb, fuwa is like top 5 in terms of popularity in niji, him getting 100k with that lineup of a guest is not unsuprising. also many 3d lives this year have fucking flop, to 30k to 10k. only this and akina have surpassed the 50k+

>>47602370
Do you think a girl doing male activities badly knows about games? Yes obviously she does

>>47602687
It's what anon said >>47602532
Women are shit with money and spend way more than men

>51k on a premiere
That's unironicly first army tier

>>47602873
It's usually Holo having higher overall SC and Niji having higher single SC .

>enter fucking r/Hololive thread about mori
>horse jokes up voted
>people telling horse jokes off downvoted
I have never seen anything like this happen to a holo ever. In every single case the fans form a fucking shield wall around her. What the hell happened to Mori that she has people in the holo community OK with this?

>>47602902
nah, it was a 3d live that have guest like toya, kuzuha, kanae, hayato,

>>47602846
Nah, given her age and the quality of sonic games in the past 15 years, I can totally see her not knowing about Sonic games until she startes streaming.

>>47602917
>fuwa is like top 5 in terms of popularity in niji
What makes you say that, he's nowhere near the top 5 in terms of any metrics including subs, view growth, or viewership. He's barely top ten if at all

>>47601078
Yagoo you stupid fuck just give them the trash standardized merch niji gives all its livers. None of this is worth it. The investors will hate you again.

>>47602993
i mean it was barely even a 3d live, most of the time they were fucking around in his "host club." also it was showing off his 3d host outfit as well, right?

>>47602990
she mistreated deadcucks and now has to put up with tourists. I think she's already aware they don't give a shit about her.

>>47602947
Kuzuha had 70K Vampire premiere, but...

And the top 3 fastest 10M songs did not even have 1M in the first 24 hrs.
Tokyo Shandy Rendez-vous, ToyaPeanut Christmas and Marine Treasure Box.

>>47603030
subs, he's no 8, ccv, he's fifth

>>47603030
Not him but Fuwa is the second highest SC total in Niji

>>47602902
It's a 3D live, his 3D debut did 144k and 170k USD (at that time, before yen crashed)

>>47602990
At least post screenshots

>>47602990
Even Mori herself joked about it. People take that as a confirmation that the joke is allowed

>>47602990
>Don't care about Holocult
>Holocult will not care about you
Simple af

>>47602919
>dancing sqaud
>male
you mixed up male and normalfag. I don't expect normalfags to know video game history no.

>>47602458
>If
Ok bro it’s a 3D debut

>>47602990
Yes, brapbeats are fucking insane. Everyone knows this. The horse AI were made by fans, not by people trying to piss her off.

>>47601903
Actually an indie graduated recently and it was out of nowhere her friend learned about it from the announcement same as fans. They were speculating it has to be corpo.

>>47602784
Oh yeah, anyone know how fast the Lavi song got to 1 mil?
https://youtu.be/6LPPrL8Xda8
All i know is that it was under 1 day when i saw it.

>>47602990
reddit has been radicalized after the homo debuts (both of them)
you have the hardcore homobeggars with their cultural war on idol culture and inceldom on one side and the last few girls only enjoyers who hate the homos with burning passion
the last group HATES Mori and will gladly upvote anything that damages her

>>47603070
They're singing half the time and playing darts on the other half.

>>47602990
She refrenced it on stream. That's basically the go sign for a lot of people. She should have throught it through more because "the girl who sucked off a fat horse D" isn't exactly a brand image you want

>>47601464
Too lucky too fast.

>>47601630
>>47601728
>>47601745
>>47601797
>birthday month for both
Nice try holobronies.

Runt of Council vs Top dogs of Luxiem

>>47602947
>>47602761
You guys are silly. Fuwa is the #1 "pure" Nijisanji streamer of the whole ensemble.

Kuzuha, Salome and Toya might get a higher auidience but their provenience is from "elsewhere", with Kuzuha drawing from the overall JP streamer box (and the JP FPS box), and Toya and Salome drawing from God knows where, as it doesn't overlap at all with the rest of NIjisanji.

Fuwa at one time held the highest 3D debut peak and the highest 3D debut superchat and it last for a LONG time, only being beaten by HoloX and Gaku (respectively) in late 2022.
There is a reason his Radio Taiso are almost guaranteed gold for almost a full month straight (with Holos pulling magic tricks to beat him), and likewise for every time he pulls an company wide event, tournament or arc.

Being surprised that he can get "first army" numbers is silly, NIjisanji doesn't have anyone capable of matching Hololive first army but, if they had, it would be Fuwa

>>47603176
1 d 12 hr+, there is a Niji 1M list on Reddit.

>>47602993
>>47603110
Why did he put 3Dお披露目 in the title?

>>47602859
how does any of that contradict my point?

>>47601738
Subs never mattered. I don't know what you're trying to start, Indog.

Ai for Jp7

>>47603205
let's see the supas

>>47602990
Fuck off cringelord

Damn I went back to read the thread during vsai. The only EN team seems like crumbling starting from game 3. Whose fault was it? Axel? Altare? Selen? Noct?

>>47603174
During past year there has been countless of graduations, both indie and small corpo... It means literally nothing.

>>47600973
you know why

>>47603174
Who?

>>47602990
>I have never seen anything like this happen to a holo ever
The place got colonized by Holo antis for the longest time.
That's the nature of the North American audience, they only "appreciate" things ironically but think putting the entertainers down is funny.

It used to happen with Ayame as well, until .... some blokes got into a series of coincidental misfortunes and it toned town.
Except Mori burned the exact segment of the audience that would do likewise on her behalf, so she's running naked in the snow with that one

>>47603208
Kuzuha and Toya is first army tier anon. Fuwa is one or two level below them.

>>47603234
baiting i guess

>>47601220
Shit

>>47603192
>She should have throught it through more
Something that can be said about virtually every time Mori decides to do anything.

>>47602699
People say that she's better after switching to this voice but to me it's just her giving up. Her character voice was more animated and expressive, she just needed to stop doing the high pitched screams not turn into the most basic monotone shit ever.

>>47603256
Both selen and axel started tilting after game 2, only blue homo keep his composure.

>>47603255
You need to go back to twitter friend

>>47603234
his host outfit.

>>47602990
>>47603088
>>47603148
>>47603178
>>47603192
>>47603283
you know I get the feeling that you guys think the horseporn is alot more damaging than it actually is, unless you spend your time in places like this where there are people pushing the mori horse porn thing as something that will end her career most people still think of it as one big ha ha joke

So Luxiem's 3Ds are guaranteed 100ks?

Do you think any FOTM in the future can break the fastest 10M record?
Or it will be accomplished by another viral original on TikTok?

>>47603321

>>47601935
Wait if their cut is only 5% is the tax handled by the streamer or the fan?

>>47603321
Everyone seems to be blaming Selen generally.

>>47603335
It basically outs you as a tourist, a twitterfag, a redditor and/or a discordnigger

>>47603234
New 3D outfit, Miko's did 96k on hers in January iirc

>>47603245
>Subs never mattered.
>Numbers don't count because I say so
cope

>>47603253
This?

>47603322
>He doesn't know
Maybe there's hope for this thread after all

>>47603286
>Kuzuha and Toya is first army tier anon.
You might be thinking of Kuzuha 2021 and "Firsdt army" 2021 but, in 2023, Kuzuha is severely debuffed and the first army, buffed to sky high.
>Fuwa is one or two level below them.
See the "pure nijisanji" caveat there, Kuzuha, Toya and Salome might get a bigger audience than Fuwa but they're drawing them from elsewhere, with regards to what would be the "NIjisanji box" (if it existed), Fuwa is the one that brings that audience out the most.

>>47603341
if it was during their peak, yea, guaratee but now ehhhh, especially if it was in NA time

>>47603354
FOTM "cover song"

>>47603357
Holy based

>>47603335
Spoken like true horsefucking expert.

>>47603232
>It's got the full list
Thanks, very useful. Will post it once i reach my PC.

Also, Salami fell off for her 3rd song.

>>47603364
Well yea, she tilt the most, axel is more of a silent tilting.

>>47603335
she's gonna love streaming for that kind of audience

>>47603205
Should Luxiem all graduate at this point?
This is just embarrassing

>>47602458
He's literally their best for it. Most of their 3D events are shit tier. Like >>47602528 and worse.

>>47603335
it won't end her career but i don't think being memed as a horsefucker is going to do her any favors

>>47603372
>no Bae
lol coward

>>47603364
either you don't understand competitive FPS or you only know apex from selen

>>47603256
Blue faggot is the only one who did well. Axel and Selen sucks, especially Axel's Wattson. Comparing his Wattson to Chihiro is like night and day. It's also not helping that Selen was not following Axel's order. Their comms was in shambles after game 2

>>47603256
Selen, despite handing over the role of shotcaller to Axel, started tilting really hard and questioned axel's calls at bastically every match past round 2, and that basically destroyed the team because Axel now couldn't make calls in confidence and Selen still isn't acting like a proper shot caller and basically just there to trip axel up whenever he tries to make a play

So yeah it's all Selen's fault

>>47603335
She's just the butt of the joke now and people will always remember the horse fucker meme. XQC and Forsen discovered the Mori horse porn thing yesterday as well.

>>47603335
>most people still think of it as one big ha ha joke
It is as much a joke as "Brendan Fraser memes" were a joke.
If you think joining the chorus or the myriad of haters she has
>which are trying to denigrate her oshi by associating her with horse fucking
is a funny joke, don't let me be the one to stop you.

It will surely make her different from the other girls whose "jokes" are all benign and highlighting their best qualities.

>>47602990
> I have never seen anything like this happen to a holo ever
Nigger Mori was the first ever Hololive talent to eat fucking DOWNVOTES on her post during the cuckbeat arc.
Redditfags always hated her.

>>47603463
I don't understand competitive FPS. I did play lots of fps just not BR style game though.

>>47603283
Well, with Ayame, once she came out with the fact that her family is genetically predisposed to fucking DIE of cancer, most of the
>Ayame doko, Ayame last stream x days ago
Posters stopped, since /vt/ is light enough to not go too hard on someone who's stated their grandma fucking died of cancer on stream. The rest of the more nasty ones stopped after that other incident yea.

>>47603341
i can see it. oliver was around luxiem's viewership, and he got 116k. they'd have to hardshill the luxiem debuts on niji twitter and channel though.

>>47603499
>Redditfags always hated her.
Except they're not doing it out of hate, they're doing it because they fhink it's funny
>while the rest of the internet started doing it out of hate
They're just retards amplifying something that is negatively impacting her image

>>47603421
It's interesting that Niji are breaking their records with covers while Holo's "top" originals dwarf covers unless they are FOTM.

>>47603205
Puyo puyo is giga buff holyshit

>>47603486
I'll say the same thing I said before on this topic which is that just because some of her haters has latched onto it as "the next big yab" doesn't actually turn it into the next big yab and for most people it's still just a joke that's getting in the process of being run into the ground
and if you know reddit you know how they love to run jokes into the ground

>>47603445
>Should Luxiem all graduate at this point?
No, them falling down the stairs endlessly is the most entertaining thing they have ever done.

>>47603316
>Monotone
She isn't monotone, just more relaxed. It's probably also saving her throat in the future, the character voice was 100% putting more strain on her and resulted in way more screechy moments since she needed to be higher tension to maintain it.

>>47603394
Kuzuha did recline quite hard and some of Holo's first army does get buffed but he's still on par with most of the first army. Maybe not against the top first army but he's around fourth/fifth strongest if you include him there.
Not to mention he is the strongest in the entire VTubing industry according to the metric that is most commonly used to measure streamer viewership.

>>47603471
Ahahahahahaha serves her right.

>>47603527
>stopped, since /vt/ is light enough to not go too hard on someone who's stated their grandma fucking died of cancer on stream.
they did not. A shot across the bow put the breaks in a certain more organized segment of the shitposters, THEN the casual stopped because they were not being amplified.

On a similar subject: that twitter account often mentioned here (and associated with Phase Connect) is about to run into very coincidental misfortunes, along with a select group of their most habitual commenters.

Honestly Hololive needs to start sueing about this horse shit today is mori but next time it could be your oshi.

>>47601950
>>47602019
>>47602402
The marketing for the movies mentions the game franchise. Sonic’s released multiple games in the last 5 years. Korone is the Sonic ambassador where they mainly talked about the games. The only realistic piece of media she possibly could have absorbed before the new games but after the original is the comics or the sonic x anime both of which are too old for her. It’s not possible for her to have known sonic as a media franchise before a game. You’re retarded for believing her as she’s obviously lying

>"The people joking about Mori having sex with horses aren't doing it out of malice"
Falseflagger

>>47603499
>>47603540
>they're doing it because they fhink it's funny
So, Mori attracted the LSF retards from twitch? Nice to know.

>>47603471
I mean, and?
Reminder that to this day a lot of people still remember Matsuri as the "Haha band-aid girl who lust after children"

>>47603626
my oshi still has devoted fans who will put down any kind of unsavory jokes in social media. I wonder why cuckbeats are different...

>>47603434
>>47603457
>>47603471
>>47603486
She's just using the Marine strat, doesn't matter where you find her from, as long as you become a streamwatcher she doesn't care.

>>47603651
essentially unless Mori flat out calls them out and tells them to stop people are going to keep spamming it thinking it's funny kinda like the bottom left meme because they think she's okay with it

>>47603205
>that tumbnail
AAAAAAA COMEBACK HERE

>>47603631
>joking

>>47603651
>Mori attracted the LSF retards from twitch?
Her MO is attracting retards from every corner of the internet

>>47603600
Well, I'll have to take your word for it since I always found the Ayame shitposting to be a bit silly, even more so after she stated why her streaming was so sporadic since having someone on the edge of death is probably worse in some ways than them just kicking the bucket. Also I didn't keep track of a hard timeline of all the dumb shit shitposters pull usually.

Mori bestiality doujins when?

>>47603668
>who lust after children
/

So the star's standardize merch isn't that bad, there are still choices and it's cheaper.

>>47603626
yeah anon, that totally won't be playing into the hands of retards like >>47603597 or anything

>>47602990
>What the hell happened to Mori that she has people in the holo community
you mean what happened to r/holo??? They should just nuke that fucking site. It's like it is filled now with antis masking themselves as fans by using a flair

>>47602532
All that to say yes I am a retard. If this mattered why is marine pekora coco rushia the top? It’s because men spend more on the opposite sex. It’s why gfe makes more than bfe

>>47601540
>Newfag/EOP outing himself

>>47603703
>Mori flat out calls them out and tells them to stop people
She'd have to be very precise, because LSF clips everything including apologies and actual yabs, unless it's from OTK and associates.

>>47602012
Hololive is real madrid and niji is more like arsenal

>>47603703
Addressing them on stream would be the absolute LAST thing she should do, although I can understand how the "Sheriff" thingey would have been hurt by the lack of a horse.
Management is unironically retarded falling for an anti psyop and making their decisions based on it.
Just don't acknowledge the retards, and it will die down on it's own
> but we know Mori doesn't have it in her

>>47603753
At the end of the day cover isn't nijisanji and people really should stop expecting them to act like nijisanji

>>47603753
homocope

>>47603733
ho(loli)ve

Let's be honest. The horse thing only gained traction since the Dad meme niggers wanted something new.

>>47603580
>but he's still on par with most of the first army.
Kuzuha average for 2023 so far is 21,064 with 88 streams.
That's absolutely top of the class of daily streamers with the only one in the same frequency range (80 or more streams in these 108 days that already passed this blessed year) is Pekora.

But that's the thing: Pekora average for 2023 so far is 33,261 on 99 streams. That's a whole separated league, he's still stuck with his 2021 numbers and she grew a full 10k from hers.
Then comes Miko, with a 26,068 average on 74 streams, also greatly outranking him.

He is absolutely top of the class, it is just not the same class as the Hololive first army anymore.

>>47603695
marine likes being lewd though.
so unless you think mori wants to be known as a horsefucker it isn't going to help her much

why are we discussing horse porn again?

Maybe Mori just really into bestiality.

>>47603681
Cause Mori courted the fucking TT fans.

>>47603870
See >>47603830

>>47603695
but her ccv keeps getting worse...

>>47603870
>again
wait, what?

>>47603804
Management was retarded for attacking individuals behind the memes and spammed dox of a person here. They should just let the joke die. I don't even know about Mori horse stuff until they doxxed that guy.

>>47603695
There is a big difference between being associated with a very commonplace fetish
>50 shades of gray tier
and being associated with fucking horses through a meme her haters are spreading with the express purpose of denigrate her.

It's not "the end of her career" but it would be a huge shift in the perception of the audience, from
>cool rapper shinigami
to
>horsefucker

>>47603681
because nobody is that stuck up to shit down someone's neck for a joke

>>47603857
He just hides his power level.

>>47603920
anon since when has ">cool rapper shinigami" been her dominant image?

>>47602990
>>47603499
Stop being mentally challenged.

>>47603527
>Posters stopped, since /vt/ is light enough to not go too hard on someone who's stated their grandma fucking died of cancer on stream
lol wut, they literally never happened, people stopped because Gura fucked off for 2 months and people started comparing to her

>>47603951
that's still how nips see her

>>47603920
>>47603681
I bet you retards think the "pekora owns a fucking monkey" meme was denigrating Pekora's image too

>>47603926
Go compare HL part 2 and the rest

>>47603991
do even nips care about her horsefucking fetish?

>>47604002
>false comparisond
retardchama...

>>47603031
Sonic mania, sega all start racing, games that include sonic like smash or the Mario olympics, sonic colors, rereleases of the original games, the complete trash fire of sonic boom and sonic 06. Yes she’s lying all of these has insane fame or notoriety.

>>47604002
strawmanning this early?

>>47604026
>It's not the same because... it just isn't alright?

>>47604002
>comparing owning an animal to fucking one.

says more about you than anyone else desu

>>47604016
i don't think they even know the horsefucking meme

>>47604002
YJK

>>47604002
what the fuck is this comparison, owning a pet and bestiality or not equally denigrating at all

>>47604039
kwaychama...

>>47603770
>>47603983

Why don't you guys just admit that horsefucking is really cool and will bring Mori a lot of new audience? Jealous much?

>>47603951
For the general audience outside Hololive? Since ever, for as much as she did everything to sabotage it.
The first contact most people used to have with Mori was
>RIP
a 36M views song, now that first contact is becoming
>sucking a horse and enjoying it

The haters in the crowd have no power to spread it further from the places that already hate her, but if her own audience starts thinking it is funny to spread it further, well, it will reach much farther

why are you shitting up the catalog?

what did the sisters mean by this

>>47604016
the nipponese horsefucker population has been
hunted to extinction by the yakuza

So this Mori "owing the hates" Calliope starting to backfire because some horsefucking thingy?

>>47604002
Yes anon, having an exotic pet and putting a horse dick in the mouth and sucking it are equally denigrating

>>47604102
he became like the latina girl?

Horsefucker general

>>47603926
>>47604012
kuzuha hogward legacy : sub 20k

>>47603857
>average and number of streams
You're disingenuous if you're comparing true average but doesn't show the hours streamed instead.
You'd have to be retarded and claims Aqua/Subaru/Suisei isn't first army to even attempt to argue that Kuzuha isn't first army tier.

>>47604016
Well Nip do have horsefucking fetish? Saw that shit in doujinshi all the time. But real one? Maybe only Westerner have that shit

>>47603910
The joke is not going to die until action is taken to show that it's not okay behavior.

>>47601153
I can believe what she said, including the pic that kept circulating, because I can relate.

>>47603391
Ah, no wonder ...

>>47604042
>>47604064
It's literally the exact same thing of "something that isn't true but is being spread memetically in the fanbase because of it's humour value" but nobody is claiming that the monkey meme will somehow "change Pekora's image" or "being spread deliberately to denigrate her" whereas for some reason "mori the horsefucker" getting spread around will spell the end of Mori this time for sure

>please talk about tempiss
>please talk about nijishitters
I just want to talk about how amazing Hololive's numbers are and I have to deal with pathetic faggots trying to make their shitters the focus of discussion

>>47603149
Maybe that’s an American minority thing but dance squad is more males then females. Look up movies like stomp the yard.

>>47603986
Well, as I said, I don't keep track of catalogue shitposting, so if that's what happened I'll just shrug and not worry about it.

>>47604182
if you don't like it you can always go back to /jp/

>>47604153
That's still higher than Miko's HL legacy, let me guess, Miko also isn't the same class as the first army

>>47604183
b-but my CN primetime overlap!

>>47604210
holoEN is fine, you faggots can go back to /trash/

>>47604176
what? pekora did get a monkey for real though. anon are you okay?

>>47604102
they mad about the clown only care for greensisters.

>>47604002
Anon, what the fuck is wrong with you? In what world is 'memes about owning a godsdamned monkey's anywhere NEAR the same level as 'fucking a horse'??????????

Why is it Mori who got latched by this horse meme? I'm sure there are other holo x horse AI audio. Was it the hottest?

>>47604169
>it is not okay to joke
Do cuckbeats really?

>>47603857
>first army is 3 Pekora and 3 Miko
Okay so he's stronger than most first army, glad you agreed

>>47604012
>>47604153
Not an argument. That just means he has an higher ceiling but lower floor than Pekora. Pekora also finished HL relatively fast enough for her numbers to not drop that much.

>>47603527
>>47603986
People stopped for alot of different reasons, but the big one is that most of the people pushing it are just latching onto the next big meme and moved on once something more interesting popped up

>>47603273
It was in the idol thread some blue haired indie she’s been doing it since myth’s debut. She didn’t seem bad

>>47604243
Less greensisters and more big spenders, which is a complete fucking turnoff for the average watcher especially when they get called out by name.

>>47603600
>On a similar subject: that twitter account often mentioned here (and associated with Phase Connect) is about to run into very coincidental misfortunes, along with a select group of their most habitual commenters.
Nice

>>47602458
>if
do nijibronies really?

>>47604254
her cowboy sheriff larp

>>47604163
I am not doing that at all. I am comparing streamers in the same class (daily streamers) and showing how much higher the daily streaming Hololive girls are flying right now.

Right now Gura has a 21.9k average in 8 streams, Kuzuha a 21.0k average in 88 streams and Toya, a 33.7k average in 27 streams.
And yet it is definitely not possible to compare the three of them based solely on the average because their number of streams is so dispar they are not in the same "class" of streamers, with one being a daily streamer, the other, an occasional streamer and Gura, a streamer that was in a break for most of the period

>>47604183
graduate everyone who didnt appear in a 10k stream today

>>47604031
Anon, this is a girl so sheltered that outside of whatever got filtered to her by her sister, she is shockingly ignorant of many memes and internet happenings in general.
Yes, I actually believe she's that sheltered, because she's been horribly consistent on this very sad point.

>>47604254
for some reason the AI of her voice is really good unlike Kronii and Irys's version which are just kinda passable.

>>47604309
Don't be slick hooman

>>47602532
Just curious, is this their "own" money, or does this statistic include women spending money for the household? I heard before women are the demographic to advertise to, since the housewife would do the general housekeeping, which made sense to me.

>>47604284
I see this drama all the time in smaller corpos or indies where people start getting pissed that the girl is obviously giving their paypigs way more attention and lets them participate in stream games with them (while being "randomly" chosen).

>>47604254
OKBH latched onto it like the suipiss meme way back when and amplified it beyond this chinese tapestry weaving forum