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47441269 No.47441269 [Reply] [Original]

Why are there a significant amount of Chumbuds on twitter who are against "parasocial relationships" but also argue that Gura is above criticism? Aren't these positions contradictory? If you treat her like a normal entertainer then isn't it normal to criticize her for laziness? People do it to fleshtubers all the time, hell there's an entire subreddit set up to shittalk twitch streamers called Livestream Fails so why are these people so obssessed with the idea that if a streamer uses a 2D avatar they're immediately immune to being called out for being manipulative and lazy?

>> No.47441358

Don't use logic on twitter

>> No.47441388

>>47441269
They don't know what parasocial means. They just want to own the haterz.

>> No.47441440

She has the largest amount of dead subs in hololives, and her active subs are parasocial pedos and schizos. She hates the fan base she has cultivated and would rather ignore them at all possible. The 6 figure salary she makes from promotioning and mascot commercials are enough for her.

>> No.47441480

>>47441269
Tell them that every Hololive fan with an oshi is parasocial by default even if he denies it.

>> No.47441571

>>47441269
Except what you filthy Pigs are doing is Bullying her,

Talents that Don't stream often exist in Hololive and to Cover that is more than okay and it's been a Thing for 2 years now so why Target Gura?

Just admit you all just losers who treat Gura's streams as some sort of drug that makes y'all Wierdos high as fuck

>> No.47441579

>>47441440
I don't deny any of that just curious why the twittards are so defensive over it. They act like Hololive is their personal troon hugbox.

>> No.47441677

>>47441571
Bullying her by...asking why she's not streaming much anymore? I mean we all know Gura just wants easy cash and to do as little work as possible and confronting that fact makes her uncomfortable but asking the question isn't the issue, it's the fact it needs to be asked in the first place.

>> No.47441732

>>47441480
Dont put words in my mouth you mouth breathing loser

>> No.47441773

>>47441269
They aren't chumbuds you idiot.
Real chumbuds know Gura doesn't use social media, she reads chat, superchat, and member comments.
Gura does NOT care about non-members opinion, that is a FACT.
Anything attacking her fans is just going to backfire because for Gura, her close and hardcore fans are her backbone and she only reveals stuff to them.
It's also why Gura was not upset by members voicing their opinions, because it's something she has ASKED for before.

>> No.47441789

>>47441732
Denial is not a good look anon.

>> No.47441825

>>47441269
STOP MAKING THREADS, FOR THE LOVE OF GOD JUST STOP

>> No.47441897

>>47441773
>Gura does NOT care about non-members opinion
Which is why she disabled all comments on her member's stream. Stay delusional chumkek

>> No.47441914

ogey
faggot

>> No.47442005

>>47441269
Do you think people will ever understand this anon? You say the word communication and people already twist it to "NONONO YOU WANT TO KNOW ABOUT HER PERSONAL LIFE, WHAT SHE DID THIS WEEK, WHERE SHE WENT AND THE NAME OF THE PLACE SHE LIVES"

>> No.47442018

>>47441773
>Gura does NOT care about non-members opinion, that is a FACT.
She doesn't care about members opinions either, she just does members streams to make sure her cucks don't cancel their memberships. Don't fool yourself. Gura has the highest ratio of members only streams to regular streams in hololive and it's because she needs her paypiggies. That's it.

>> No.47442183

>>47442005
Yes strawmanning "Hey Gura why aren't you streaming like normal is something going on?" into actual stalking seems to be their go to tactic. Normal leftist behavior, twist an entirely reasonable question into something hateful because that's how their mind filters the world, you're either in complete lockstep with them or you're an enemy to be purged.

>> No.47442219

>>47441677
Bitch please you needing a constant Update to a Streamer in an Anime Avatar is a You problem lol

>> No.47442288

>>47441269
1. Holos should not have boyfriends ever.
2. Holos should stream & communicate regularly.
3. Holos should not collab outside of Hololive often, if at all.
Keep seething, idol haters.

>> No.47442335

>>47442219
And people don't call this a parasocial relationship LEL. People who get asshurt or seethe about her not streaming clearly has Gura staying rent free inside their retarded heads.

>> No.47442392

>>47442288
Retardation Issue

>> No.47442476
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47442476

>>47442219
I don't respect creators who openly lie to and deceive their fans for monetary gain and I will continue calling out the shark whore for unethical behavior no matter how much you seethe over it

>> No.47442523

>>47442288
incel commandments

>> No.47442578

>>47442476
Do you really think these other creators don't lie to you? Grow up.

>> No.47442644

>>47442476
If they are women, they WILL lie to you for monetary gain. It is basic women instinct. Believing otherwise makes you a beta

>> No.47442761

>>47442578
No? I criticize them too if they're within my circle of interest and for the record I've never seen anyone defend a twitch streamer who is being greedy and manipulative as much as twittards who actually buy into the idea that Gura is actually an innocent shark girl and not an alcoholic who is wasting their donations on getting blitzed every night

A good part of the fact EN is falling apart is due to Gura dodging her obligations to the branch

>> No.47442774

>>47442476
Asking respect from people who dwells in this Board is like a Literal Horse shit to be treated like a Sentient Being lol

>> No.47442906

>>47442761
>EN is falling apart
Objective proof, please?

>> No.47442990

>>47441269
>thinks reddit livestreamfails schizos are a good thing
this pretty much says everything we need to know about op.

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47443010

>>47442906

>> No.47443035

>>47442761
holy fuck where do you retards even come from

>> No.47443074

>>47443010
Anyone who know numbers can see it's a cumulative stagnation and not a catastrophe.

>> No.47443123

>>47443035
twitch, he literally admitted to it

>> No.47443148

>>47443074
It's even worse than that graph makes it look. EN viewership is in the dumpster and it's because they can't get any projects going because Kronii doesn't give a fuck and Gura is drunk out of her fucking head most days.

>> No.47443225

>>47443010
>>47443148
Retards like you think anything that isn't inclining means it's falling apart.

>> No.47443254

>>47443148
>more schizo rambling
You don't even watch Hololive fucking faggot

>> No.47443271

>>47441269
>25th

>> No.47443330

>>47443225
EN is at its lowest point since inception meanwhile JP keeps inclining

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47443478

>>47443254
I watch HoloJP and hold EN to JP standards. Their schedules should be packed to the brim with recordings, dance lessons and streaming and they should be active on Twitter letting their fans know whats going on. That is the bare minimum and even the notoriously lazy JPs like Ayame and Shion are making Gura look bad right now

>> No.47443696

>>47442523
>>47442392
So true sisters! They should be getting regularly gangbanged by BBCs and if their fans hate it they should just fuck off! That’ll own the chuds!!!

>> No.47443805

>>47443478
And? They don't like doing that what you gonna do? Keep Malding? lol

>> No.47443877

>>47443478
If it's unsustainable, it's unsustainable. It doesn't matter how much you want things to be, if it doesn't work it's not gonna work. In fact your fucking retarded thinking is probably why we see so much burnout.

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47444051

>>47443877
Oh yeah and there's one thing we should be worried about with Gura it's "burnout". Oh the strain of doing 3 hours of streaming per month!

>> No.47444145

>>47443877
Kek this is why jp girls have the most graduations, breakdown streams, and cases of suicide. Fans want them to die

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47444281

>>47444145
>If Gura streams more than once a month she will literally die!
Seems like a retarded strawman to me considering there are multiple members in EN who stream a lot more than Gura and don't have any trouble juggling it with their personal life.

Also there have been more "breakdown streams" in EN than there have been in JP

>> No.47444324

>>47443696
Yes they should.
Women have sex, deal with it.

>> No.47444333

>>47444051
>brainlet incapable of considering any other factors than just stream amount
Just the fact that you completely disregard the conversation says plenty about how much you care

>> No.47444416

>>47444281
I bet sending a single tweet knowing hundreds of thousands will see it is more pressure than anything you've done in your life

>> No.47444570

>>47444416
If I was earning as much as Gura then I would happily let as many people send $100 donations calling me a worthless faggot as they like. Sticks and stones bruh, they're just words.

>> No.47444637

>>47444333
She's not doing any work behind the scenes. She's just spending her days drinking vodka straight from the bottle.

>> No.47444727

>>47444416
My tweets are already seen by hundreds of thousands of people though

>> No.47444930

>>47444570
>can't even stay on the argument
unless you're making the idiotic argument that having money makes you literally immune to stress
no, you exchange stress and responsibility for money, it's just a question of how sustainable it is for you
>>47444727
not gonna bother responding since I know you're being disingenuous here

>> No.47445069

>51 / 6 / 16
16 IPs. If you're feeding these Discord monkeys, understand you're just wasting your time. You're not talking to real people.

>> No.47445254

>>47444930
What fucking stress? She doesn't actually do anything, that's the point. You're not talking about Marine, Suisei, Pekora or even fucking Mori. You're not talking about someone who creates a lot of content. You're talking about someone who flakes out and gets blackout drunk every day. WHAT STRESS does she have other than the stress of getting 50k deposited into her account every month from the dutiful cucks like yourself who enable her laziness?

Ok so lets pretend for a minute that Gura is so frightened of her exposure that she can't even bring herself to tweet (and we know from her PL that's a lie), shouldn't she be deemed incapable of fulfilling her obligations as a Hololive member and be graduated? If she can't stream, can't tweet, can't do original songs because of "stress" then maybe the best option for her health is to simply quit the role causing it?

>> No.47445571

what type of fucking brain parasite compels people to write more than 30 words in a 4chan post

>> No.47445737

>>47445254
You don't understand her and don't appreciate anything she's done, that much is apparent. That's why you're so convinced of your own "solution" which is "just make them do it". That's why you're so baffled as to how someone possibly couldn't be doing things exactly as you imagine, because you can't see how. You live in your own perspective, convinced of it, but with no understanding otherwise. You keep saying "what" because you have no answers, except for ones of absurd cynicism.

>> No.47446221

>>47445737
>You don't understand her
Neither do you. She's an entertainer, not your friend. Your only connection to her is her job.

>don't appreciate anything she's done
On the contrary I do appreciate what she's done my only complaint is that she's done precious little of it and seems to be actively manipulating her fans into continuing to donate when she knows she has no intention of ever increasing her output. It's as cynical as a Patreon owner convincing people to stay subscribed because "Great new content is just around the corner!" when they know they have nothing. Entirely worthy of scorn.

>You live in your own perspective, convinced of it, but with no understanding otherwise
Cringe. Stop huffing your own farts about your empathy for the anime shark girl, retard.

>> No.47446972

>>47446221
You point things out but have no explanations for them. You simply label them as 'le ebil' without any deeper, more nuanced reasoning.

>> No.47447071

>>47443010
>VSPO fastest inclining
Not bad

>> No.47447155

>>47442219
you're on /vt/ bro, don't act like you're above it

>> No.47447427

>>47447155
You are Pretentious if you think I give a Damn what you think lol

>> No.47449430

>>47442219
Doormat-kun...

>> No.47450020

>>47441571
>Talents that Don't stream often exist in Hololive and to Cover that is more than okay
It is not okay. Do your job.

>> No.47450098

>>47443877
The average EN Hololive member would commit suicide if they worked a retail job.

>> No.47450680 [DELETED] 

>>47443805
Nah he’ll probably just call your shark a lazy bitch. Comparatively of course. It takes 0 seething to call out that Gura hasn’t given a fuck for over a year. Chumbuds have been coping for so long though that they’ve basically become retarded easy to imitate caricatures on this board.

>> No.47450758 [DELETED] 

>>47444051
Chumbuds are the biggest jokes on the board when they cope like in this thread and they don’t even know it… lmao

>> No.47450851

>>47441269
>"criticism"

>> No.47454374

>>47441579
The likes of them should be calling her a pedobaiter, but mysteriously only a few schizos tried to do that, and they were quickly shut off.

>> No.47457443

>>47441571
Why are you Capitalizing random words?

>> No.47457530

>>47441269
Mob mentality, peer pressure, etc... that's why twitter, discord and reddit should get permanently mocked.

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