/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

GRIM

>Kiara: vedal will not be there
KEK

soon

>>47323251
Slow down, big boy. Jordan Peterson is a more realistic goal for now.

We learned from last thread that that faggot should get the rope.

>>47323397
>no supervision for Neuro
what could go wrong?

Here is a nice chart from last thread. Full wall of text at >>47322060, but the short summary is

Question
>why the Hololive girls (from the Japanese branch) have abnormal numbers in relation to the rest of the industry
Answer
>because they see what the audience wants to watch and just stream it, without any complexes about "creativity", "repetitiveness", "cringe" or any of the usual charges

Will Neuro-sama collab start the incline of Kiara thanks to all the normalfags / Twitchfags following her? Or will it just be a nothingburger in the long term?

* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY *
>62,240: Hal (Neo Porte)
>50,218: Yotsuha (Nijisanji)
>33,773: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>33,709: Pekora (Hololive)
>32,340: Miko (Hololive)
>26,949: Toya (Nijisanji)
>25,624: Korone (Hololive)
>18,730: Watame (Hololive)
>17,373: Lamy (Hololive)
>16,431: Sora (Hololive)
>16,177: Salome (Nijisanji)
>13,867: Lauren (Nijisanji)
>13,381: Shion (Hololive)
>13,166: Koyori (Hololive)
>11,812: NeruMero (Indie)
>11,753: Kronii (Hololive)
>11,437: Kanae (Nijisanji)
>11,332: Fuwa (Nijisanji)
>11,135: Ponpoko (Indie)
>10,422: Baelz (Hololive)

>>47323252

>>47323397
Just because he won't have a mic doesn't mean he's not actually there

I wanna lick Kiara's armpits so bad, bros...

>>47323493
so what?

>>47323493
For what the audience cares, it does.

>>47323488
>APRIL 2023 GOLDS
1) Toya (Nijisanji) - 56,531 - Genderbent stream
2) Hal (Neo Porte) - 110,960 - VSaikyo 5 landmark lottery
3) Pekora (Hololive) - 95,630 - Puyo Puyo Tetris 2 w/Suisei
4) Chiroru (Indie) - 32,268 - Hanshin Tigers vs. Hiroshima watchalong
5) Miko (Hololive) - 62,251 - Puyo Puyo Tetris 2 totsu
6) Okayu (Hololive) - 70,189 - New outfit reveal
7) Ponto (Nijisanji) - 66,820 - 3D debut
8) Miko (Hololive) - 38,482 - Minecraft
9) Ryushen (Nijisanji) - 78,299 - Smash Bros. Tournament
10) Pekora (Hololive) - 97,308 - Puyo Puyo Tetris 2 tournament draw
11) Iroha (Hololive) - 37,543 - Puyo Puyo Tetris 2 w/Suisei
12) Salome (Nijisanji) - 39,193 - Uma Musume gacha
13) Korone (Hololive) - 111,617 - 4th anniversary 3D live
14) Hal (Neo Porte) - 62,240 - Apex VSaikyo 5 final scrims

>PER COMPANY
7x: Hololive
4x: Nijisanji
2x: Neo Porte
1x: Indie

>PER STREAMER
2x: Hal, Miko, Pekora
1x: Chiroru, Iroha, Korone, Okayu, Ponto, Ryushen, Salome, Toya

>2023 GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
78x: Hololive
18x: Nijisanji
4x: Indie
3x: Neo Porte
1x: VSPO

>PER STREAMER
29x: Pekora
9x: Marine
6x: Miko
5x: Toya
4x: Subaru
3x: Hal, Hololive, Mio, Okayu, Suisei
2x: Chiroru, Koyori, Kuzuha, Lamy, Nerumero, Nijisanji, Towa
1x: Aqua, Ayame, Choco, Gaku, Gura, Himawari, Hinano, Ina, Iroha, Kiara, Korone, Mito, Mori, Nozomi, Polka, Ponto, Roco, Ryushen, Salome, Shion, Watame, Yashiro

>six bait threads about orange woman on the catalog
ya im just gonna take a break from the broard for the weekend

>>47323397
I don't even know why it matters at this point. She will have to cover the homos for her news show, she keep talking about them, just collab with them at this point, you already lost everyone who cared about that

>>47323493
Kiara literally said he wouldn't be there. He would literally not be there unless you think Kiara is lying.

>>47323478
I can only see the possibility of a recline after pissing off the unicorns

>>47323476
Now, here something to shake things up:
How many people amongst EN audience who want THE SAME THING as JP?

Has anyone received an interesting nsurvey from holoshop? Half the questions are less about the shop and more about (You), including an attempt to link your youtube name to your purchasing habits.

>>47323478
kek you know the answer already, anon

>>47323574
>will have to
No such thing? She might decide to, or might decide not to.

>>47323464
>that faggot
You have to be way more specific.

>>47323574
No. Fuck off back to mans little shitposter, shoo shoo.

>>47323420
You guy watching it?my prediction is Kiara will screw up the volume and her voice is louder and extra annoying

>>47323567
Kiara is back baby. Paint the board orange

>>47323567
That's not really any different from usual whenever Kiara does anything

>>47323611
>contributing to Cover's new data mining revenue stream

>>47323478
>Or will it just be a nothingburger in the long term?
It will be nothingburger in short term, anon. It's Kiara. People make noise about her collabs before they happen, don't watch them and forget Kiara exists the next day and Kiara goes back doing her 2K streams.

>>47323478
it will have the opposite effect

>>47323610
>WILDLY GESTURES TO DROP OFFS IN AUDIENCE EVERY TIME THE EN GIRLS GO AGAINST BEING PROFESSIONAL
>POINTS TO THE CONSISTENT NUMBERS MINECRAFT GETS
The only thing that for sure EN doesn't want but JP is okay/wants are things like jRPGS, of which the JP girls can get decent numbers, depending on the game.

>>47323610
>How many people amongst EN audience who want THE SAME THING as JP?
I'll make a huge leap and say
>there used to me more
>the number went down because they were not given it and bailed

So I'll agree with your implied premise: not many people want the same from EN than they want from JP.

It doesn't really contradict what was stated
>see what the audience wants to watch
>just stream it

Notice it doesn't say
>see what the audience watch the JP girls doing
>do the same

>>47323567
How new?

>>47323574
She already said HoloEN (girls) only

>>47323493
I mean you know hololive have male managers, technicians and staff members so shitposting about this was always retarded.

>>47323574
Tempus is not HoloEN, faggot

>>47323476
This is why all the "Fauna only spams buff contents" and "Kronii / Ame / Mori / Kiara spammed too many debuff shits or they would have been stronger" are just BS. Ultimately, content choice is part of a streamer. If you can't pick good content to stream, you are just shit. A girl who spams only buff contents over long period of time should be praised for figuring out and sticking with what her viewers love, not looked down upon like some sort of "numberfags".
HoloEN (bar Fauna and maybe, Gura) should just learn to like what their viewers like.

when the fuck will Fauna collab outside of Holo already
Even Ina did it once, a few times if you count pochi

>>47323611
Reruns & cheaper shipping in the future

>>47323610
If people didn't want JP but in english, why does holoEN even exist?

>>47323871
why would she lol
>because i want to anti her!
what made you this way anon

>>47323794
if she said that rly
good luck with unityfags, they will be mad

>>47323611
This is them trying to figure out if
>The people buying merch are casuals or not
>The viewing habits of those buying merch (AKA are you a unityfag, an oshi4lyfer, etc)
I do wonder how many people would be willing to fill this sort of thing in though.

>>47323488
Hololive is dead...

>>47323771

>>47323855
>A girl who spams only buff contents over long period of time should be praised for figuring out and sticking with what her viewers love
And she is, btw.

Some might not like it but this is what peak EN vtuber performance looks like.

>>47323693
When I filled it out, I wrote "I do not care for the Holostars, I WILL never support the Holostars" in every space they let me. Same with the Google doc surveys

>>47323574
>you already lost everyone who cared about that
Anon, you really think people can't figure out that it's just you who keeps repeating the same thing over and over? You don't even try to word your posts differently each time.

>>47323875
it's my time to save you all from the high shipping cost

>>47323871
Who her friends outside hololive?

>>47323871
Who would she collab with?

>>47323574
>please please please just collab with DA BOIZ already PLEASE!
homobeggars everyone

>>47323140
She never said she is against tempus collabs infact she said she want them to succeed, just that she won't initiate them

*FINAL EN TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN*

>4/14 DAILY TALLY
11,753: Kronii (Hololive)
10,422: Baelz (Hololive)
7,707: Fauna (Hololive)
7,276: Selen (Nijisanji)
6,120: Mumei (Hololive)


>EN GOLDS FOR APRIL 2023
1) Baelz (Hololive) - 10,729 - Unarchived Karaoke
2) Mori (Hololive) - 19,768 - Outfit Reveal
3) Baelz (Hololive) - 9,749 - Q Remastered
4) Mori (Hololive) - 24,195 - Birthday Stream
5) Kronii (Hololive) - 12,994 - Minecraft
6) Sonny (Nijisanji) - 13,826 - Birthday Karaoke
7) Kronii (Hololive) - 21,845 - Uno (w/ Mori, Magni, Vesper)
8) Selen (Nijisanji) - 23,498 - PuyoPuyo Tetris 2 Tournament
9) Mumei (Hololive) - 43,634 - Outfit Reveal
10) Kiara (Hololive) - 15,972 - Easter Collab
11) Fauna (Hololive) - 12,199 - Minecraft
12) Kronii (Hololive) - 10,504 - Minecraft
13) Mumei (Hololive) - 9,986 - CouncilRyS RPG
14) Kronii (Hololive) - 11,753 - 2.0 Reveal

>PER COMPANY
12x: Hololive
2x: Nijisanji

>PER STREAMER
4x: Kronii
2x: Baelz, Mori, Mumei
1x: Sonny, Selen, Kiara, Fauna

>POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)
21p: Kronii
16p: Mumei
15p: Baelz
13p: Mori, Fauna
12p: Luca
8p: Sonny
6p: Kiara, Selen
3p: Ina, Vox, Kotoka, Mysta
1p: Axel, Amelia, Elira, IRyS

>>47323855
>Fauna only spams buff contents
Kek and then she boot up fucking dredge and still manage to get 9k for some reason.

>>47323609
I'm more pissed that she keeps letting non-holos leech her

>>47323966
Here is a challenge. Add or remove some words and find what is the min number of words you can change to make this go over 110

>Myth got introduced to Council by them randomly being added to the discord server
That honestly doesn’t surprise me

>>47323302
wow male vtubers have tits now? maybe I will start watching these so called brotubers

>>47323984
Yep, all me

>>47323855
t. Shitty sapling justifying boring game choices
Just admit you bot her streams

>>47323975
Isn't one of those two cats... gone?

>>47322826
Piko park she was also apart of. The only other big one before the exploding pc was halloween which vr makes her sick. She couldn’t even move during the awful anniversary and she stole the show. September was almost entirely homo collabs and a little in October

>>47323942
Why would they be mad? Tempus is not Hololive.
If anything this gives Tempus their own chance to do their own news show for StarsEN but from what I've seen none of them have any sense of initiative for big projects other than Magni.

>>47323995
>>47323997
shondo?

>>47324023
>the only NijiCN entree is ultra buffed by Vsaikyo, which ends tomorrow
NijiCN is so fucking dead, goddamn.

>>47324023
>2023 EN GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
73x: Hololive
29x: Nijisanji
2x: Holostars

>PER STREAMER
11x: Mori
8x: IRyS, Baelz, Mumei
7x: Amelia, Fauna, Kronii
6x: Vox, Ina, Gura
4x: Kiara
3x: Mysta, Pomu, Shu, Selen
1x: Ike, Flayon, Alban, Elira, Luxiem, Finana, Millie, Luca, Regis, Enna, Rosemi, Hololive English, Ren, Sonny

>2023 POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)
89p: Fauna
74p: Mumei
70p: Mori, Baelz
66p: IRyS
62p: Ina
56p: Vox
54p: Amelia
43p: Mysta, Kronii
38p: Luca
37p: Kiara
30p: Gura
24p: Selen
17p: Shu
16p: Pomu
11p: Uki, Axel, Sonny
9p: Millie, Enna, Ike
8p: Finana
7p: Regis, Elira
6p: Rosemi, Ren
5p: Flayon, Alban, Luxiem, Hololive English
4p: Vesper, Fulgur
3p: Hakka, Magni, Kotoka
1p: Meloco, Shinri, Gavis, Maria, Pippa, Nina

>>47324081
SHUT UP! She took a taxidermy express course just for this illust!

>>47323871
Ina did a collab with Pikamee. Fauna's only "friend" outside of hololive is a menhera

>>47323871
She's /here/ and hates any kinds of drama related to her.

>>47324023
Can someone do something interesting? Everday it's hololive gold

>>47324052
is this really the first time you've ever heard of a tomboy anon?

>>47324086
the VR collab literally made allowances for playing on desktop instead of using VR, presumably just for Gura's sake, and she still chose not to join.

>>47323302
/news/ anchor
Reply with a short description of the news and a link to the source!

News from the last thread:
>Upland (Owner of .LIVE) to join MBS Group
https://twitter.com/dotLIVEyoutuber/status/1646792197449351168
>Keala X LoL Wild Rift Ramandan collab
>>47253049
>HoloX Cafe menu and merch detail released
https://twitter.com/SP_collabo/status/1646710961783586816
>Hololive to participate in June's Tokyo Toy Show
https://twitter.com/hololivetv/status/1646800459301044227
>Nayuta of NeoPorte to go on an indefinite hiatus due to injury
https://twitter.com/NeoPorte_info/status/1645081053118480385

Old news:
>Figaro 3D debut & live 18th April, JST
https://twitter.com/Figaro_qpt/status/1645368615787728899
>Hololive Blue Journey revealed, concept music project with 23 HoloJP members, more to come July 2023.
https://twitter.com/BlueJourneyInfo/status/1646442015738171393
>Cover recruitment notice, looking for Trad. Chinese Localiser for Taiwan
https://hrmos.co/pages/cover-corp/jobs/0000206
>774 to debut 3 new members, 18th April for account creation & 22th April for first debut stream, JST
https://twitter.com/774inc_official/status/1645985611499847681
>(Relatively) New JP Vtuber group, 5 members, debut marathon has ended
https://twitter.com/HHH0414_info/status/1645366073649422336
>Otodama Tamako of Aoigiri HS indefinite suspension
https://twitter.com/AogiriHS/status/1646438073171935233

>>47324083
Have you check the holoschedule?

>>47323478
If anything wil happen, it will be normalfags and facestreamer dramafags smelling blood on the water and using kiara as a a way to shit on hololive as a whole
Remember that they are still seething about number rabbit being #1

>>47323140
She is affraid of the backlash nyanners was a one-off after pink cat went out of her way to suck Wawa's dick like shouting her out as her oshi during that kizuna Ai concert.

>>47323995
>>47323997
...Shondo

>>47324279
>shouting her out as her oshi during that kizuna Ai concert.
LMAO

>>47324023
kek the moment vsaikyou ends we might as well just retire this tally. Forget cripple gold, NijiEN can't even reach cripple tally without any sort of event/gimmick.

>>47323567
>Anon wasn't there then the ENTIRE catalog was painted orange
You wouldn't survive early 2021

>>47323979
BASED BASED BASED

>>47324262
As if they needed Kiara for that

>>47324104
>>47324334
If you know enough to bring that up, you know enough to not entertain that idea.

>>47324104
Didn't she got caught in yab about loli recently?it hard to get one now

>>47324279
Pink cat was the second choice collab for Kiara. Vei got shit on for saying some anti Holo shit right before and it got cancelled

>>47324251
Wait what? Why was Tamako suspended?

>>47323574
>She will have to cover the homos for her news show
The Holotalk? She would need to pick it from dead first since last one was in fucking december

>>47323190
I was only addressing why she doesn’t say she won’t collab with Tempiss outright. It seems to be a management thing. They have no problem saying it about other streamers male or female but they refuse or possibly can’t say it about them

Kiara just confirmed they didn't have a common server with JP or ID but we know they do with fucking Tempus...

>>47324435
i know, but she's literally the only chuba from her indie days that still talk publicly with her now

>>47323871
>outside of Holo
she cant colab with Ame in 2 years

>>47324251
>Nayuta of NeoPorte to go on an indefinite hiatus due to injury
WTF? I assume the injury was not disclosed

>>47323609
lol

>>47323979

>>47323186
The holo "brand" as a whole being CGDCT is not in dispute anon, and I'd argue that holos themselves have plenty of "gachikoi" fans who are ironically or unironically in love with the chuuba.
Nijisanji brand isn't "mixed collabs" either, it's "you're free to do what you want, sink or swim is up to you".
That's why there can be chuubas like Lize, Chima, Toko, Sister Claire, Ange etc. who operate with CGDCT principle, and still have gachikois despite them being in Nijisanji.
They focus more on the CGDCT content, while also occasionally doing collabs with various folks. Their male collabs are few in number, and hence they can be considered as "CGDCT" chuubas.
Meanwhile there's also chuubas like Gundou, Utako, Sara, Chihiro etc. who focus on a different crowd with different humor and expectations.

This is the same with Hololive as well, with Pekora, Miko, Marine, Koyori etc. being "CGDCT" types, while there's also chuubas like Matsuri, Towa, Suisei etc. who mix things up while still retaining their CGDCT "vibe".

As long as the "general trend" of the company is that there's at least 70-80% more within-holo collabs than outside ones, their brand will be fine.

My whole point is that the VTuber industry - as a whole - has never welcomed the "no male interactions" type of unicornfags into the fandom, and do not have any unironic unicorns in the GENERAL fanbase. Specific chuubas who explicitly promise "no male interactions" like Kanata are a rare exception, and never the norm.
Anyone who has such expectations is either a schizo (if it's using their main account) or - more frequently - a shitposter, especially /here/ where it's easy to pretend to be various type of people for shits and giggles.

>>47324493
Inappropriate remarks and second time she lied about why she cancelled her streams (she was caught playing valorant with a guy offstream)

>>47324516
>a common server
A common *what* server? Discord?

>>47324451
That was trannies grasping for shit to cancel her with when she called out who harrased her for playing the hogwarts game

>>47323188
She only knew that ina played splatoon and chat mentioned gura and kronii. That’s 4 but if it was irys plan she definitely didn’t ask gura because she used to be scared of asking her for anything. Would explain why she stopped at 3. It could also have been a skill thing

>>47324093
>Why would they be mad? Tempus is not Hololive.
Some still think that but I have seen this sentiment die down a lot every since that image with Cover separating HOLOPRO into HOLOLIVE and STARS came out. Nowadays people will just pretend to be retarded about hololive production's meaning but not straight up deny holostar brand.

Were there truly that many idiots who were bamboozled by omegay and their tourist interest in hololive that they didn't know STARS were a thing?

PS: Death to any faggot that calls the girls "LIVE" instead of holos.

>>47324516
"HoloProEN" server i guess, i blame omega tranny

Why no lewds when males win? Homophobic much?

>>47324062
Yes, the anon who camps in /#/ and keeps saying Kiara is on the homo side now because she mentioned them twice on stream and tweeted at them is indeed the same Anon making the exact same post over and over. (You also illogically put Mumei and Ina higher on the anti-homo side despite that making literally no sense, you just dislike Kiara for some retarded reason)

>>47324515
She just confirmed she's reviving a news show for HoloEN specifically

>>47324606
>She lied about why she cancelled her streams (she was caught playing valorant with a guy offstream)
Spicy

>>47324262
How can you even spin it as drama?

>>47323574
someone should make a Kiara version of this

>>47324603

Kiara is the biggest leech in hololive.

>>47324493
Because unfortunately, idol culture is a thing.

Global is on fire..

>>47324633
a holopro EN/ID server. Moona had to ask for a girls only EN/ID server.

>>47324606
Rumao the company actually punished her for it. Well I guess in the end only Komaru will remain in the company.

>>47324516
Didn't moona created a girls only holo server a year ago? I guess Kiara is that forgetable kek

>>47324656
DIY.

>>47324654
Didn't they have entire private server share with the holoID?

Dear lord please fauna shondo collab, make it happen

>>47324603
I'll give you a short summary rebuttal
>very few people care
What people care is people using your reasoning to try to PUSH for more collabs by people that care more about Holostars than they do about Hololive.

So people that couldn't care less about if Mori took Rikka to her 3D concert, or if Bae and Vesper did the "boomer vs. zoomer" collab now see this reasoning at
>EXISTENTIAL THREAT
level and will push back even when they wouldn't otherwise care.

They're not even unicorns, they just play one on TV because if they don't, the content they like to watch will be hijacked to serve as a clutch to help indigent streamers

>>47324700
Still no one can beat the commie/pol/fag in terms of IQ.

>>47324832
No, fuck right off

I didn't see it being posted here before so here's the updated price for Holo vol.2 Weiss cards.
Keep in mind that except for Climax cards(Landscape shape cards) the price is determined not only by popularity but also by the effects of the card itself.

>>47324761
>server
Server for what? Discord? Email? Minecraft? IRC?

so hows it going today bros

>>47324023
Fauna actually took bronze from Selen with asmr. Kek. I love that Green nerd

>>47324910
Discord.

>>47324910
discord. she created it live on stream kek

>>47324888
>but also by the effects of the card itself
That explains Iroha.

there is only one homobeggar who writes these long walls of texts...

>>47324603
Good grief take it to a publisher homobeggar

>>47324965
Iroha cute

>>47324964
MR OBORETAI GET DOWN

>>47324603
I aint reading all that shit to be honest

where are the numbers at /#/

>>47324042
Ophelia & that other small corpo girl seem fine I just hope niji whores fuck off

>>47324603
Wrong thread
>>47270991

>>47324963
Didn't Moona make one already for EN/ID girls?

>>47324603
From this post and the posts in previous thread, it seems like your perception of the vtuber scene is entirely shaped by # and some catalog thread. All the talking points are related to the infos available here but outside of that you know nothing.

Did we really waste an entire fucking thread going through an homo loop while the results are right in front of our eyes? People don't want to watch male Vtubers. StarsJP and StarsEN are both at the absolute bottom of the Cover hiearchy.
That's it, case closed.

>>47323478
lol no
the AI is more interesting than Kiara so the few people that sill like her will just move over
idk why she hasnt got it, leeching only works if you are more entertaining

So Selen cripple gold tonight since it's the actual tourney right?

>>47325056
Yeah, they probably just forgot to inform kiara about it lol. even after a year

>>47325025
Watame domination

>>47324606
Oh this was the girl that cried about getting caught playing with a dude : https://youtu.be/iMfTHSznKFM?t=747
Back when she apologized for that, she said "I'd like to promise that I'll never play games with males off stream again, but I'll probably do it again, and can't make any promises".
Comments had some shitposters, but her fans praised her for being honest about it.

> lied about why she cancelled her streams
once again, problem comes from the chuuba lying to her audience

>>47323884
Because turns out, just like /vt/, people who wanted "Hololive JP but in English" are just a fraction of the actual EN market
And when they realized that fact, they just go back to JP

>>47324603
God damn are the Homobeggars getting more Schizo than the Unicorns now or what?

>>47324933
It's one of the few days where I find myself liking Kiara.

>>47324516
we know that since her Jp arc, she disclosed that on twitter when she was asking for a off-collab partner there instead of a discord server.
Now a JP/EN/(ID?) server of people up for collabs or going out when in JP exists (the one subaru talked about passion english for going to dinner together).

>>47323975
Peak performance en vtuber is Gura streaming consistently she has no real debuff shit. Even the very rare sub 10k breaks 200k views. Fauna as her protege is also peak just a smaller one

>>47325165
>now

>>47323966
Average is still higher than half of this board anon, be real
>Verification not required.

>There are greynames in Watame's chat
How the fuck did this happen?

>>47325100
21k ccv collab would say otherwise

>>47324516
Laplus confirmed that all branches have separate servers.
...but then again, Tempus is managed by HoloEN despite being under the stars branch, sooo...

>>47325233
Go back Kris

>>47325165
Now? They just never had an outlet before Tempus came along.

>>47320755
She was obviously full of shit Kiara loves WORMS and wanted to play with Ame alas... but I'm pretty sure we had confirmation from the blue fag that Ame was inviting personally, it wasn't open invite for everyone where homos just happen to join first and more you can see the collab spam ending after blue boy got frustrated and started refusing said invites making it more difficult to find enough members.

>>47325151
>I'd like to promise that I'll never play games with males off stream again, but I'll probably do it again, and can't make any promises
Kek she's taking a piss

>>47324761
>>47324963
> Moona had to ask for a girls only EN/ID server.
kek got a timestamp for this?

>>47325136
who

>>47324661
While i do dislike Kiara, i've nothing to do with everything you're accusing me of, but you won't believe me, so whatever

Which is the worse group of people in /vt and why is it ironic unicorns

Roco...

>>47325228
they didn't press the receive gift button

>>47324045
Funny to think how they broke almost every established rule to make the boys succeed. They allowed ID to be in their discord before debut, offered to let them set up merch their first 2 weeks, gave them a con appearance and broke the collab ban. En went from a mess to a well oiled machine for them and things obviously got worse.

>>47324517
Hmm, interesting point. I guess explicitly namedropping Tempus might cause issues. And explicitly stating "I will never collab with males" as an EN chuuba is prone to get them some backlash from twitter types - which they probably don't consider worth.

>>47324957
>>47324963
Thanks.

Sometimes I think whatever the fuck happened to email and asynchronous communication as a whole.

Here is how easy it could be
>from: fauna@hololive
>to: reine@hololive, lui@hololive, subaru@hololive
>cc: reine.manager@hololive, lui.manager@hololive, subaru.manager@hololive
>Subject: Collab next week? Four girls, Phasmo, Friday 6PM New York time, Saturday 7AM
>Body: Hey girls, (line break) what about a phasmo collab next week? (line break) Attached there is a scheduled event, feel free to say "No" or propose another date! (line break) If the three of you accept the invite, the managers can deal with the details (line break)(line break) xoxoxoxox (line break) Fauna
>attachment: invite.ics

No discord needed, no instant communication needed, just click "Yes", "No" or "Propose another time" in the invite and reply to the email whenever you can.

What's so hard about that?

>>47325243
Yes even ID have their own severs but for some reason when Tempus became a thing they gave them the keys to the EN/ID server. Moona had to make another sever that is just girls later.

>>47324888
What site do you get these from?

>>47323942
unitykeks are all barks and no bites lmao

>>47325450
Anon you need to remember that we're dealing with females here

>>47324023
>the only two wins for NijiEN are a birthday karaoke and a tourney that involved JPs
>Luca had a birthday and didn't even get gold either
What's the point of this again?

>>47325136
Mumei finally playing Civ + guaranteed Fauna raid.

>>47324251
>Nayuta of NeoPorte
That's what his last stream was about?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYVU8oRV298
>Whether he will come back or not is 50-50
That sucks.
Must be affecting his hands or in that area, since it hinders his streaming/gaming capacity.

>>47325228
brand channel

>>47325450
see >>47325051

>>47325233
No it doesn't. That's their absolute peak and they can never ever achieve it without the girls. And even that peak is still a wet fart compared to what the girls have achieved.
Numbers absolutely prove that there is a difference between male and female Vtubers and the latter are far far more popular. Nothing else to say.

>>47325147
Nene is still going. Go to bed girl.

>>47324832
keep begging
it will work

>>47325233
Not really. Collabs are nothingburgers unless they're giga tourneys with merch. Their numbers are irrelevant since they bring no profit, and exist only to possible incline members of the collab...which they're doing the opposite of. Or are they gonna make SKWAD merch? Lmao

TLDR: 180k people watching homos sing with holos on NYE doesn't mean shit

>>47325307
NTA but it was in the middle of the overwatch collab Mumei had with Kaela that the idea came up

>>47325405
Roco got a lot of fan arts pre debut though?

>>47324832

>>47324603
>As long as the "general trend" of the company is that there's at least 70-80% more within-holo collabs than outside ones, their brand will be fine.
I will agree with you here, but it's also a reason why EN is in current pathetic state. They unable to do that. HoloEN brand is damaged.
I would also say that this:
>Nijisanji brand isn't "mixed collabs" either, it's "you're free to do what you want, sink or swim is up to you".
is true for JP, but again not for EN. Ironically their "We are family" is what went completly against Niji brand and reduced it to just mixed collabs, constant NTR type content etc.

>>47325243
lmao no wonder snot made their own private discord

>>47324679
grifters and leeches never let the truth get in the way of a good rrat that is in line with their preconceived notions
npcs then lap it up
ever heard of someone named sunnyv2?

>>47325473
Worst thing they can do is call you an incel. Then instead of watching and supporting their homos, they spend all their time online defending them.

>>47325307
lol my memory was hazy about it, i just remember it was on that minecraft collab when she's amused with Mumei's giggles. it was discussed here back then so you can prolly archive dive for it.

>>47325595
Dumbass its not tempus

>>47325468
>for some reason when Tempus became a thing they gave them the keys to the EN/ID server
Do they have their own channels and use the server as their main communication server, or do they just have access to it?

So Gura and Ina have their own discord separate from the rest of EN right?

>>47324228
We’re talking about last year her missing only 1 big girls collab. I don’t remember them saying that for the halloween collab and even if they did it doesn’t matter. Sora gets motion sick on minecraft so she has to run it like crap. Why do you assume it isn’t the same for gura vr in general could just do it

So one of the latest containment-breaking youtube video about his board is almost two hours long.

>>47324965
Yeah that's how it works. Kanata, Iroha, Lamy, Koyori, Mio and Azki are probably the notable ones getting a big increase, while cards like Kiara and Aki get fucked with their questionable effects.

>>47325720
It's called PMs.

>”WE DON’T NEED EN3! HOW ABOUT SUPPORTING WHO WE HAVE ALREADY!”
>”TEMPUS 2!? LETS GOOO!”
>*insta leaves the Flayon raid*
How about supporting the rest of your homos homobeggar?

Oshi no Ko is a grim reminder to holobronies that most of their whores are just like the main girl

>>47325793
That would almost be impressive if it wasn't so fucking sad.

>>47325405
Rika's hot. She needs more art.
Preferably with Toru since they've been dating so much lately (in Minecraft)
https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/105991012

Also, happy birthday to her.

>>47324842
> What people care is people using your reasoning to try to PUSH for more collabs by people that care more about Holostars than they do about Hololive.
I'm the guy who made the point a few threads ago about enforcing their own fucking rules as a way to combat homobegging.
All it takes is 1 (ONE) HoloEN girl to just show this list on screen and highlight the relevant rule. They don't even have to SAY anything, just show the fucking thing and continue streaming like normal.
The audience will get the point, fans will reflect the streamers, and homobeggars will start getting mugged in the streets if they continue keeping it up afterwards.

> They're not even unicorns, they just play one on TV because if they don't, the content they like to watch will be hijacked to serve as a clutch to help indigent streamers
I'd argue that "pretend I'm a unicorn" shitposting happens far more often when there's an angle to shit on the girls with it.
Very easily seen with these type of disingenuous posts : >>47323493 >>47323574 >>47323609

>>47325793
Is this another depressed shitsagi video?

>>47325847
If I got raided into Fauna I wouldn't watch because she's a fake ass whore that I'm not interested in. Fortunately she streams before anyone that matters but that's never the case. The point is you won't like everyone

>>47325301
blue homo could have been based if he didn't have a faggy voice and supports troons

>>47324023
>>47325492
You just have to get more creative with the shitposts
Here:
>PER GEN/WAVE
9: Council
3: Myth
1: Noctyx
1: Obsydia
0: Hope, Luxiem, Lazulight, Ethyria, ILUNA, XSOLEIL

>>47325847
>Supporting Tempus
Absolutely not!
>Supporting the cause
Hell yeah!

>>47325471
Rather than site, it's a twitter account of a shop specialized in selling cards. There are bunch of them out there, but this one has pretty much the highest buying price of them all, so I chose this one.
https://twitter.com/tp_evolution

>>47325793
tl;dw and neither did the general audience. When a video gets fewer views than an ASTER (fucking Aster) schedule gets LIKES on Youtube forgotten by all community tab you *know* it didn't reach the audience in any meaningful way.

>>47325713
They have access Zeta was able to speak to axel before debut. Ame’s blanket worm collab invitation that was totally only for en/id girls at first was also sent there

>>47325867
>Loves her fans
>Tries her best to appear the best she can be
>Work hard through hardships
>Panders to her fans' interests
I wish. As of their private matters, as long as they remain private, IDGAF

>>47324469
Vei was also grooming her on discord i believe both of them wanted to try and get into holobox through Kiara but that vei shit started popping up on reddit and even redditors were angry.

>>47324336
She said the same in some interview not too long ago

>>47324700
Too many JP, abbreviations, and made-up words, I guess

>>47325305
funny thing she burst out in tears when she said that, probably why her chat forgave her

>>47325713
How did you think they setup those worms and Axel;s bad end song without it. Axel by his own admission said that he @everyone on the discord and got replies instantly.

>>47325947
Nah

>>47326002
I was curious one day on why he was so unpopular so I tuned into a stream of his and he sounds exactly how you’d expect him to based on his design

>>47325847

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3OxEcOpT0M
>mfw Koyori is a time traveler and preemptively shat on Kson

>>47325301
>but I'm pretty sure we had confirmation from the blue fag that Ame was inviting personally
Kek wtf, pretty sure Ame's entire justification back then was "ZA BOYS answered the invitation first" as to why they're even there.

>>47325116
Kiara will only accelerate Nuero/Vedal’s popularity like she did with Pomu before nijien burned down.

>>47326025
No one asked for your opinion, seanig

>>47326049
>>47326011
I know the homos have access to HoloEN Discord server. I was just wondering if that's all they have (access so they can communicate with others), or if they are using HoloEN server as their HomoEN server too.

>>47326189
I thought tourists were claiming Fauna was going to collab with the AI?

>>47325867
Somehow homobeggar have a brain of a gold fish. If you keep parroting them for the 1000th maybe people who watch them would care about rm stuff. And to think homobeggar are the original doxxer, you guys unironically the same people on twitter who hate loli and compare them to actual real child. Guess what those people got caught on everytime.

>>47325793
>>47326002
Skill issue.

>>47325563
>TLDR: 180k people watching homos sing with holos on NYE doesn't mean shit
Funny, you can apply the same logic for Gen 5

>>47326236
they for some reason colluding it with the girls talk, that was their angle

Since when is the sidebar like this?

Also, kek, poor Subaru.

>>47325934
>enforcing their own fucking rules as a way to combat homobegging.
That just moves the battlefield to the next step: a chat war when they mention one of the Hologirls when the streamer didn't mention first.
>WHY ARE YOU ADDRESSING CHAT WHEN THEY MENTIONED MUMEI?
>WHAT ABOUT THE BOIS?! YOU CHASTISED CHAT BECAUSE OF A MENTION LAST WEEK!

That's, incidentally, is the reason Kronii fucked up. If the idea is to combat homobeggars, pretending it is about rules that apply to all streamers is the dumbest way.
Kronii sank her KronMei ship because of exactly that
>shipping is cringe, OK?
then realized what she has done and tried for
>unless it's with girls
capped with
>unfortunately, because idol culture is a thing

The correct way to address homobeggars, in an ideal world, would be to say
>I don't want to collab with Holostars or even acknowledge them, please stop mentioning them
trying for the "roundabout way" is just dumb and would just give homobeggars a reason to become chat police
>if Holostars can't be mentioned no other streamer can, including the streamer close friends and ships

>>47326189
More Ai flood on twitch, i want to see it happen.

>>47326220
According to Kiara,HoloEn and StarEn share 1 official server but the girl have another common server share with ID

>>47325934
I’m telling you it might be management mandated because they literally stopped enforcing that rule afterwards. Fauna literally tells people stop bringing up nl but she ignores all the homobeggars

>>47326236
Kiara found out about it and sped up her collab first.
Not kidding.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rK-jukS-Sw0

>>47326258
Looks like a recline

>>47325183
That one was a holdover from Minecraft wasn't it?

>Predict the upcoming Gura x Neuro collab

>>47326332
Oh man, it just gets more and more messy.
Also, sometime within the past few weeks, it's Youtube once again pushing shorts.

>>47324888(Me)
Also an archive of two Japanese card autists explaining the effects of all the new cards in the pack.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HwHSsSWq44E
Everything is in Japanese, and unless you know about the basics of Weiss you probably won't understand what they're talking about anyway.

>>47326332
Thats annoying

>>47326135
>Ina Mumei marks
lol the I’ll do it once and never talk about it again
>Gura Kanata marks
Lmao

>>47325060
>>47324985
>>47325165
Don't use that cope you retards, I never explicitly asked for any holos to collab with the homos.
In fact, I'm against homobegging in general, see >>47325934 .

My point about bringing up the "no unicorns" theory is that "pretending to be unicorns" is one of the favorite tactics for trolls /here/ to shit on the girls.
We've already seen this in record time with the Kiara - Neuro collab, people bringing up Vedal, and all the other examples I talked about here : >>47322392

The general vibe I got during these events was that there's a bunch of EOPs - both /here/ and outside - who unironically think that JP and EN have "unicorn" type fans who explicitly forbid all type of male interaction.
Grouping all holofans under that label is - in fact - the favorite tactic of homobeggars and nijiniggers.

My point, if anything, is to highlight the fact that there are no non-schizo fans with such huge expectations in the fanbase.
And that holoantis pretending to be "unicorns" to shit on the girls should be dunked on like the faggots that they are.

>>47326337
>I don't want to collab with Holostars or even acknowledge them, please stop mentioning them
This could go into kanata level of homobeggar to straight antis.

>>47326423
*messier and messier

>>47325867
I don't get it. What's this supposed to prove?

>Kiara will be the first person in Holopro collab with Neuro-sama
What're Fauna Mama and Uncle Nowa thinking right now?

>>47326409
>Gura will at 1 point use the Neuro tech and Ai Chat Vtubers to collab with HER
That's what she's been cooking.

>>47326025
I’m in agreement not knowing might as well be the same as not existing. In the same vein if you get caught you have to bear the shitstorm

>>47326050
Wonder if it's similar with Kronii, just self-destructive male addiction.

>>47326509
Fauna doesn't even fucking know according to Kiara.
I doubt she'd care. But I'm responding to a shitposter anyway.

>>47326352
Telling people to stop bringing up NL or Neuro-sama doesn't cause drama. Saying "Stop bringing up Tempus i will not collab with them" does cause drama. That's probably the main reason

>>47326239
>rm stuff
I posted a pic from a stream though. Poof. Your illusion of your oshi not being a whore is now shattered forever. Enjoy. Now go out and stab them like the schizo did in Oshi no Ko.

Its honestly sad the effort some individuals go through to try and drag Fauna or any of the other girls into their fetishistic delusions

>>47324781
She was talking about IRyS and Council debut times so 2021

>>47326381
>kiara vs fauna and kiara vs vesper baitposts on the catalog for the next few days or so thanks to this shit

>>47326164
Yea Ame is a liar mori is a liar most of them are bad liars

>>47326479
This sure as shit is ironic

>>47326588
I remember gura said no males onstream, she probably mean tempiss

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rpM8_3h275Y
BRONZE

>>47326486
They practically already are when you aren't acknowledging them

>>47325934
There's no need to do anything as long as it doesn't bother them. People who throw out bait long enough without getting any bites will just leave for greener pastures.

>>47326352
I believe it, didn’t they stop Gura from streaming over their debuts?

>>47326479

>>47326646
It's just male collab shitposts so far.

>>47326346
They no longer have a myth server like how jp has their gen servers? Did she not bring up any personal ones or is she just not in any?

>>47326236
Fauna doesn’t gain anything from him. Kiara has the illusion it might since the AI gets more ccv than she does.

Like no really Fauna has kept inclining steadily, if anything it should tell her to just keep doing what she has been doing. Kiara is on the opposite spectrum where she is losing relevance

>>47326695
This is going to get a maximum of 6k. Not sure why the fuck she let chat convince her to play it a 3rd time.

>>47326685
"Males on stream? EWWW"
Shork was based, we lost her too early...

>>47326479
>And that holoantis pretending to be "unicorns" to shit on the girls should be dunked on like the faggots that they are.
That's a given

>/here/
Nah, at very least in this thread, for the most part people are level headed. As I mentioned above, for the most part, the
>the girls shouldn't collab with Holostars
is less about what you are calling "unicorns" and more about preventing a scenario where the success of the girls can EVER be used to try to to a charity drive to the indigents across the company aisle.

That, more than even what happened to Kronii
>mostly limited to her own audience
is why Ame got a hard pushback in this thread as she was, with the Worms collab, clearly trying to lay the red carpet and make the Holostars feel welcome in the "Hololive family".

For anyone not interested in that, pushing back on them and their collabs is an imperative. Simply going
>I don't care, if that happens I just won't watch
would be the recipe for it to happen with an incredibly higher frequency.

>>47326695
Dude there's only Fauna and Mumei streaming today, it's a silver.

>>47326620
That level of obsession is not healthy. I get shitposting about unicorns and whatever but these fags do absolutely insane mental gymnastics and write fucking essays. Like holy hell, is destroying Hololive that imposrtant to them?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rpM8_3h275Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rpM8_3h275Y

>>47326725
Stopped everybody including member streams.

>>47326808
>2hours

>>47326685
Gura gets thrown into drama no matter what she does so I don't think she cares what beggars think.

>>47326750
Nah, she will just get her usual 7k and probably stuck there
>and then raided Moom's civ for that cripple gold

>>47325606
Understandable. I'd argue the reason Kronii caught a lot of EXTRA flack is also because she had multiple mixed collabs while ignoring things that her fanbase wanted most, like SNOT collabs and other girl-on-girl collabs.
Has she collabed with Fauna 1-on-1 yet btw?

JP girls still provide the requisite CGDCT content for their audience - hilariously enough, even when they're not streaming - leading to cute moments like these : https://youtu.be/RpeGAQFakfg

> NijiEN
Agreed, iirc it was Elira's attempt at copying NijiID's vibe (fucking hilarious in hindsight considering how they turned out). It was kind of retarded for her to forget about ACCELERATE though, it's literally what her company is known for.

>>47326789
Fauna also has a phasmo collab

>>47326789
Selen Vsaikyou is today, the actual tourney

>>47326808
MORTIS

>>47326790
>at very least in this thread, for the most part people are level headed.
Maybe 10%, on a good day, when a good horserace happened, and even then, it's still depend on timezone

>>47326618
Sry faggot, i watch vtuber not 3d idol. Maybe you should stop being a delusional schizo because nothing happen. Also this 4chan, not reddit faggot, everyone know those "forbidden knowledge" and are still here watching them.

>>47326749
At least she is finally doing a news show but the problem is what news does EN have? Is it a hint that holoen will be getting more collabs with companies?

>>47326872
Too outisde her stream time to get good numbers (or good enough to beat this).

>>47326646
Well the problem is that there are multiple angles for shitposting with this collab announcement and it is difficult to do all at the same time
>>47323657

>>47326858
>https://youtu.be/RpeGAQFakfg
Come on now anon, geographical advantage is something EN will never have

>>47326695
Cripple tally is a joke now with all the botted fauna streams going into a raid to mumei or bae

>>47326748
I assume kiara is just talking about official ones. We already know the girls have clique servers

>>47326620
These people willing to doxx holo just to prove their points, they beyond schzio.

>>47326925
I didn’t want to shit on Kiara, I want to like her so I support her trying new things as long as it isn’t Vshojo or NijiEn crap.

Hmm, Watame ended and no one got any relevant buff. 17k people went to sleep.

Also, what is she playing?

>>47326961
>4-way fanbase tribalwars
lmao

>>47326993
>botted fauna streams
What kind of bizarre angle is this

>>47326858
>Spoiler
There was a Dying Light collab in the end of December I think.
Kronii ruined by not clearing the tutorial pre-stream, meaning they had to wait for around one hour before they could play together.

>>47327075
Nijinigga cope angle

>>47326888
Yeah I’d say that’s EN gold for today, I’m expecting it to hit the actual tally

>>47326925
EN3 soon, trust the plan

>>47326748
There’s a myth, council, hope (lol), HoloEN, Tempus and a holoproEN server with all of them.

>>47326897
Nah, this statement follows the other one
>And that holoantis pretending to be "unicorns" to shit on the girls should be dunked on like the faggots that they are.
This thread gets its share of schizos and outright antis.
As for the rest, most that are against collabs with Holostars couldn't care less about, for instance, Towa or even Laplus collabs with the FPS scene.

What you perceive, in this thread, as unicorns are, for the most part
>outright antis of the girls, pretending to be what they imagine an extreme unicorn would be
>people that don't want the girls to be used as props to try to unsink the boys from the numbers mudswamp

The later were not even numerous enough up until the cross branch cross agency overlap ban on debuts and 3D debuts.
It all changed because of that, Holostars went from
>lovable midgets that people could root for
to
>class 5 existential thread, they're drowning and will pull down anyone trying to help them

600 days get. Just a little over 3 months for the holopro record, ENbros.
JP hit 500 days yesterday.

>>47326749
She is a retard. I want to check the VOD for the exact announcements and she is still streaming even after the Q&A section and the announcements section. She is not even reading Supechats, just casual talk with her viewers killing her average.
Somebody needs to SC her to stop streaming after the announcement if she wants to incline.

>>47325576
https://youtu.be/qks6Z8g-ncU
this one?
couldn't find it on a cursory search

>>47326790
>Nah, at very least in this thread, for the most part people are level headed

>>47326748
Kiara word not is not trustworthy,just listen and forget it.she always give incomplete information like Miko sport fest drama

>>47327091
im pretty sure that turn off fauna from collabing with kronii, like you can tell ORK have good synegry and exclude kronii

>>47326925
Maybe we're finally getting EN3
Otherwise...idk. let's say you did an EN news show for this week. What would you put on it? I guess you'd just be summarizing key points from streams, like IRyS flopping at the crane game, Kronii's new accessories, GOI shenanigans, maybe cover fangames like the CouncilRyS RPG. Shill stuff like Bae's outfit and covers. Talk about Fauna's tree progress. Show some of the passport out drawings from Mumei and Kiara.

>>47327075
>she keeps inclining despite their efforts
>”They are botting her just to piss me off!”
Fauna schizo keeps losing and getting more Schizo

>>47327075
it's the truth

>>47327129
It's funny that at the beginning Axel got the biggest boost out of Vsaikyou but over time Selen is mogging both the homos now. Is Selen like the best player on their team or something?

>>47326220
Idk up to them i guess. Snot has a server, chad has a server assumedly or they just planned a cover in front of everyone, id still has gen servers. It’s more proof that they tried to turn holoen into nijien if they threw away gen servers for them.

>>47324603
>My whole point is that the VTuber industry - as a whole - has never welcomed the "no male interactions" type of unicornfags into the fandom, and do not have any unironic unicorns in the GENERAL fanbase. Specific chuubas who explicitly promise "no male interactions" like Kanata are a rare exception, and never the norm.
That's fucking retarded anon, how the fuck did you come to this conclusion?

Here's a better interpretation:
>A shit ton of unicorns watch hololive, especially HoloJP with the expectation of NO MALE COLLABS
>these people have varying degrees of tolerance most probably aren't going to drop their oshi as long as her regular content are 90% to their taste
>when they do, most of them leave silently and did not throw a fit (Kobo for example). At most they air their grievances on anonymous forums (alongside with funposters)
Also unicorns or core viewers correlates to the FLOOR for holo viewerships, that's the viewers when they go into SC reading or C-part of the stream. Comparation made between main content stream depends too much on the content and entertainment value itself, most of these viewers wouldn't be there if they failed to stream regularly or keep being entertaining, which is why Nazuna and a lot of other vtubers opted for the unicorn audience which are significantly more loyal.
Point is:
>unicorns are an integral part of the vtuber (streamer in general) fanbase
>cgcdtfags or casual viewers should align themselves to unicorn considering they'll keep supporting your chuuba's activities and keep them in line for the low low cost of (refrain from looking like a whore)

>>47327056
It is 4am in Japan after all.

>>47327075
Their cope for Fauna getting 9k on Dredge.

Why are people surprised by this? Its the kind of game the audience she cultivated eats up. NL approved. No overlap. She always does well with stuff like this at least for the first stream.

>>47327151
Nah dude, the truth is fundamentally there are degrees of caring about male collabs.

If you end up being buddy buddy with a dude in your own company, its much easier for:
-this to develop into shipping shit
-this to even develop into a real relationship

NijiEN is the proof. There's a reason people keep saying collabs with industry professionals are okay: there's little likelyhood it will develop into a streaming duo/relationship.

>>47327213
Yeah, they were talking about how it was a pain to setup because they didn’t share a server at the time.

>>47327056
probably pokemon stadium, i dunno

>>47323009
Anonくんこれはベースードですよ~

>>47326748
They have Myth, Council I'm pretty sure HOPE had one despite being one-man gen, also SNOT and probably other groups have their own rooms or whatever it's called but it seems to be all on the same server.

I actually wonder if they changed something when the collabs mostly stopped for a few months but Kiara actually mentioned seeing them planning that UNO collab so it's possible that it was done in the open so there are some mixed signals. Doesn't seem like Tempoop got introduced to holos the same way Tempiss was at least.

>>47327175
Just need to keep it up until mid-June. After that, the chain of anniversaries ensures no EN3 until August.

On one hand Kiara's actually trying. On the other hand her desperately going out of her way to ape the jap holos and failing again and again is kinda sad too look at. The one holo who can't succeed is the one who actually tries. The gods are cruel.

>>47327241
More importantly anything anons post about 'Kiara said [X]' without timestamp is untrustworthy.
Just last month somebody claimed Kiara said that holoEN will have 'raid sponsorship streams'

>>47327056
Anon it 4am jst..

HOLOLIVE BOARD

HOLOLIVE THREAD

>>47327370
UNO collab got planned in the HoloProEN server most likely.
Also Holobirds have their own private server.

>>47327328
>Spoiler
Honestly it's really just
>Niggas surprised a streamer who has 7-8k no overlap floor actually manage to get those numbers when there is no overlap.

>>47327370
SNOT was private. Cause Ame said their rust collab was organized in a place she couldn't see it

>>47327311
>cgcdtfags or casual viewers should align themselves to unicorn
cgcdtfags I can understand
Casual tho? Depend on how "Invested" they are on the medium
Random wageslave oji-san ain't gonna care if the anime woman is seen on stream with a male that one time last Monday

>>47327425
And everybody in the thread called bullshit. Aside from himself samefagging.

>>47327213
Nta but moona made the server when she saw kaela’s supplies in front of Gura’s Atlantis. Why she would decide to that instead of using the super cool unity server you can make a guess

>>47327596
>mfer
Nice edit she wouldn't be so VULGAR

>>47326925
>what news does EN have
How about a "bigfoot watch" where she gives regular reports on potential sightings, except instead of Bigfoot it's about Gura.

>>47327596
why is she cussing...

>>47327596
Reminds me of "F-wording piece of S-word"

>>47326479
>The general vibe I got during these events was that there's a bunch of EOPs - both /here/ and outside - who unironically think that JP and EN have "unicorn" type fans who explicitly forbid all type of male interaction.
I actually see this on the JP side too. It was very obvious during the Rushia incident, and immediately after that there was the Startend Apex thing where general vtuber antis or just bored shitposters went so far as to openly brag about how after Rushia they are going to bring down Suisei next for collabing with males – and since it's Suisei we are talking about, it would be quite clear what the majority of those "Hoshiyomi" throwing a hissy fit actually were even if they had not. But this association of vtuber fans with unicorns seem to have happened there outside of places I frequent already before that, because there was an uptick of such posts during 2021 whereas before that I'd say most unicorns struck me as real and were being shooed away by the wider fanbase even on places like 5ch.

>>47327596

I mean what worst could happen if Kiara, Fauna or Gura collab with Holostars??
You made such a hoolah of Kiara collab with Niji, but nothing happened. Noone inclined or reclined, people went back to enjoying what they were before.....

>>47327075
Nijisisters aren't taking luxiem recline well

>>47327331
>Nah dude, the truth is fundamentally there are degrees of caring about male collabs.
>If you end up being buddy buddy with a dude in your own company,
I maintain my point. Nobody gives a fuck about "FoxDemon" because Fubuki keeps that outside her channel, does it very sparsely and for her (and Oga's) enjoyment without care about numbers and, as for the rest of her content, she provides more than enough entertainment to her audience for them to care about that
>pic related for all her streams in 30 days

Funnily enough, even people in this very thread got upset with the recent collabs by Aruran with Aki, Matsuri; Towa and Ollie because it is clearly a charity case trying to incline him.
People will push back on that because if that ever works, it will obviously become more frequent and give homobeggars even more of a claim that it should be mandated outright.

>>47327175
>>47327408
It's already locked in, holofes end promos covered stuff up until August and EN3 was not included.

>>47327664
*BigFish

>>47327075
Shitlings camp this thread and people from here have botted other vtubers before. This is why we should go by VOD views instead, it's hard to bot VOD numbers because the views go through a verification process.

>>47327456
I guess, Calli probably asked Kiara about her UNO collab with nijis where they couldn't actually play the damn game so it's a bit of a special situation. Mori probably also still have access to twitch streamer server with the likes of IM or Corpse Husband btw wouldn't be surprised if Fagni was there too due to his roommate.

>>47327596
Calm down woman! Fuck Neal

>>47327596
kek she must be pretty mad if she's busting out the mother fauners

>>47326352
someone ought to check, which EN would be the most likely to read a politely worded SC about this issue?

>>47327493
Boring stream from a boring streamer of a shit game has no business being 9k, or even 8k, I do not believe in the slightest that it's legit.

>>47327816
VODCOEP
>it's hard to bot VOD numbers because the views go through
Isn't one of the claims against Peanuts Kun that his music views were botted?

>>47327664
Honestly kino. As a chumbud I would have approved it after the Japan trip except she went niji collabing and begging right after.

>>47327787
>EN is being treated as bad as JP homos
Standarized EN merch soon I guess?

>>47327846
She takes ads in her asmr seriously. In all seriousness though that shit is probably dead in the water thanks to the ads now.

>>47327791
See it basically writes itself.

>>47323420
WHAT? WHEN

>>47327867

>>47327596
Holy based kirin

>>47326479
>holoantis
People need to learn already anything 'spicy' posted on an anonymous board isn't an attack to the talents in question, it's an attack to other anons /here/ in an effort to get (You)s.
People pretends to be sad/angry unicorns because it is funny to imagine a loser/incel caricature gets their supposedly silly expectations betrayed which nets them (You)s. It's not an attack to anyone else.
The only thing it could harm the talent in question is that it makes a fan of said vtuber slightly harder to discuss them on anonymous boards without getting bullied by funposters (which triggered Kanata's autism in that mc sponsorship).

>>47327907
BigFish was a Gura thing already...

>>47327861
There is no way to phrase it politely. Too short and you can't correctly convey your thoughts. Too long and homobeggars will latch on
>look at that wall of text, schizo!

>>47327596
>Fauna become more unhinged
Tempus collab incoming

Why do we still get people fantasizing about new Stars collabs in this thread? Is it a corruption fetish? Or do people just hate hololive so much that they spend all day imagining scenarios where the appeal is ruined and telling themselves it's inevitable?
The situation is incredibly stable, the gatekeepers and idolfags basically won and actually won even before they started pushing back, because most of HoloEN never wanted to do Stars collabs for their own reasons/content instincts. Just give it a rest already.

>>47325136
Lol no, back to Tempiss pov especially MVP Altroon

>>47327929
He just needs to add whore a few times to his post and it'll feel like I'm back on jaypee

>>47327661
>>47327678
>>47327700
???

>>47327940
>isn't an attack to the talents
Except when it breaks containment and is used to attack the talent directly where they are, like in their comment sections, superchats, reddit and social media.
Which it always do, because if it is funny to attack (you), it is extra funny to attack what (you) like.

Why do people keep talking about what discord server something gets planned in? You can make mini discord servers that are just calls and keep all the info in there. It's as easy as having a mutual friend who can add all of you to it

>>47327940
Yep idk how the 1st thing that Kanata clipper thought after the Kanata thing was to bash and insult her unicorns. Like fag please she is doing this to defend her unicorns that are getting bullied……

>>47327787
Holo fes would only announce it if it was close. They didn't announce ID and they came a bit over a week later.

>>47323979
ASTONISHINGLY BASED AS FUCK!!!!!!

>>47328065
Kek, a falseflagger

>>47327970
>Why do we still get people fantasizing about new Stars collabs in this thread?
Because they write an essay and then some mfers actually read them and start engaging with them and hey presto... a homobegging timeloop.
>Or do people just hate hololive so much that they spend all day imagining scenarios where the appeal is ruined and telling themselves it's inevitable?
Yes.

>>47328065
what are you trying to show with this, nigga. she said it on her faith waiting room

>>47327786
This entire discussion can be ended with just your last sentence
>give homobeggars even more of a claim that it should be mandated outright
Nobody, absolutely nobody should be pressured to collab with anyone just because “nothing gonna happen”. This is the kind of behavior that is universally being looked down upon no matter which industry
Homobeggar write essays to deflect from the fact that some of the girls might not like their boys? Or that they are not just interested? The reason is just as simple as that, there’s no agenda being pushed. The pushback from fan in the first place are from people who put their oshi well being on top, know she isn’t interested and will not let her get manipulated into doing things she don’t like. Ironically it’s the Homobeggar who are trying to hold a gun to the girls head and tell them to collab with the homos or they are whores

Damn, i thought this was /news/, i guess gotta wait 12 hours then for more

>>47327910
Tomorrow

>>47327816
Retard.

>>47328065
what the fuck are you trying to say with this post

>>47327861
Kiara probably, but it would have to be worded very carefully for her to actually answer

>>47327970
Because people like you come into the thread, mention them, and then start samefagging.

>>47327940
Antis attack are more brutal like Peko double shadowban

>>47327816

>>47323979
Based department?

>>47328170
no entires from fauna chat that she wrote these messages, i suppose

>>47328065
Use your head, anon. How would she chat in a stream that has ended?

>>47327816

>>47327420
>If you do the same thing 1000 times and expect a different result thats true insanity - or something like that
Kiara throws everything at the wall except the ever simple be like holojp. If you’re playing a JRPG play it the same days every week. If you want to do wacky stuff have it preplanned and let the jokes flow. Alot of jp events are scripted and they still end up being fun to watch and laugh at. Comedians script their shit to that’s how you really know you’re funny getting a laugh on command. Actually set up collabs planned weeks in advance and don’t let them dip out unless they’re sick. Despite everyone saying streaming alot makes you professional it really doesn’t. The jp girls including ayame adhere to a strict schedule for collabs and outside being unable to leave their bed they show up. Sora learned about comments a couple months ago but doesn’t run into anywhere close the problems en run into even though they’re way more tech savvy.

TLDR En Isn’t Professional Enough and Kiara Isn’t Trying To Match JP Enough. Their most popular member cries tears of joy just being able to sing holo songs it means something

what was kiara's announcement? I don't watch shitters

>>47328065
holy RETARD

>>47327728
>>47327940
>>47328092

I mean, it's pretty simple
Unicorn posting is the easiest way to break unity, get (You)s, and derail any thread
Even in the (Optimized) timeline where Star literally doesn't exists, you can still use people in other company to shitpost with (As seen with Shuba and Migo)
Unless you literally forbiting talent from interacting with ANY males, ever, anywhere, people will always have an angle to shitpost

>>47328245
It's from her current stream