/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>47055888
So Azu-chan is decent at PuyoPuyo but won't have any chance against Marine. I hate that tournament already...

>/#/ - Horse Racing General

>>47055810
The hags infantilized her and rebuild her better and stronger
The baby streams aren't a joke anon, they are a show of their ruthless indoctrination methodology

All I know is Niji really demotivates their own vtubers because they really show that they don't care.
If they showed some semblance of it drama wouldn't find it's way all time for them.

so what did we learn from the last thread anons?

Another day another pekogold

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

I LOVE PEKO LEWDS!
>PEKO CHAN, I KNEEL!

>streamhatchet doesn't count 3d lives
No fucking wonder Pekora started these tournament spams.

>>47055957
That whole seethe stream from NijiEN?
Everything there was truth, all of it

Reminder that pekora only gets gold to brainwash people/here into thinking she is sexy

>>47055957
The DoJ actively monitors this board but we already knew that

>>47055810
Well, we know how she is, a party girl e-girl, that drank Haachama under the table, but she is still very young and acting out.
It might be that when she's around older Holomen specifically she acts way more childish instinctively.

We know some of this stuff is played up for the stream, same way JP holos and some Nijis play up Aqua's Inqya on stream, but outsiders don't see it as bad. Based in truth, but made into a character.

* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN *

Here it goes
>97,308: Pekora (Hololive)
>91,365: Akina (Nijisanji)
>55,772: Marine (Hololive)
>42,409: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>35,437: Toya (Nijisanji)
>30,216: Hal (Neo-Porte)
>28,533: Miko (Hololive)
>23,938: Kanata (Hololive)
>21,928: Shion (Hololive)
>19,979: Lamy (Hololive)
>19,175: Roboco (Hololive)
>17,409: Kiara (Hololive)
>14,209: Lauren (Nijisanji)
>13,964: Koyori (Hololive)
>12,802: AZKi (Hololive)
>12,786: NeruMero (Indie)
>11,799: Luca (Nijisanji)
>11,446: Laplus (Hololive)
>11,392: Chihiro (Nijisanji)
>11,162: IRyS (Hololive)

Peko gold with an iron grip in one of the most exciting real time horse races in recent memory, in a bizarre world event with Holo tournament beating a Nijisanji 3D Live with both racing over 90k.

>>47054524
Damn the backlash of Kawaii gen3 leaving must be really bad. This is the third video by different girls from kawaii that address the issue. They sure think the viewers are sus about what was happening behind the scene and push their girls to explain again and again.

>>47056066
the doj saw an anon's wiener

Sorry for doubting you Pekora-sama! I kneel!

GRIM

Take responsibility.

FASTER MUMEI FASTER

>>47056102
>drank Haachama under the table
Anon, Haachama is a one year old drinker. Your grandma likely could drink Haachama under the table

>>47056116
Whoever doubts pekora
PERISH

>>47055888
Another day, another HoloGold
Feels good to be a HoloChad

>>47055957
That Pomu does have 1 great ai sex image.
So far.

>>47056116
Hologods, cheers

>>47056116
I LOVE PEKO LEWDS!
>PEKO CHAN, I KNEEL!

>>47056116
>sub 12k birthday with 100guest
grim.. even council birthdays didn't get these numbers..

>>47056116
the only queen we can trust.
I kneel.

Anchor for latest drama

1. Pomu talking about her underwear in Luca's stream >>47045345 >>47045779
2. Another Kawaii girl repeating the talking point they made in the announcement regarding Kawaii's gen3 graduation https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHFPt9f3uEk

Feel free to leave a description and link to a post/YT video about your favourite latest drama.

>>47056175
I don't get it

>>47056175
Don't worry Sora, if you're maxvaxxed the symptoms will be mild.
Sorry for sneezing at you without a mask!

>>47056234
Should kneeling and licking her cunny counts as apology!?!?!?

Why did Luca's birthday stream do so poorly? It was just 3k higher peak than Vesper's birthday stream which was just him with a chatbot for an hour. Whereas Luca has dozens of people calling in and has been going for 6 hours now.

>>47056137
what's the verdict? is it a black company or was the whole gen rotten.

https://twitter.com/GunweebJimmy/status/1645440430421729280

>>47056181
I didn't want to go on a whole side description about Haachama and dtto describing La+'s hard liquor preference and always up for parties attitude, so i summed it up in those 5 words since it wasn't the point.

>drama compilation post
Its over

>>47056116
Doubters GTFO

How do we deal with this sex menace? She's stealing every sexy hag for herself!

>>47056329
the strongest Rosetai

>>47056116
So, now that the dust has settled, how do we explain Luca getting more viewers for his countdown than his actual birthday stream?

>>47056116

>>47056329
It's an imageboard, post images!
>real life mukirose of a more natural tanned variety will attend it

>>47056175
Line them up!

>>47056328
What I can get as neutral as possible is a breakdown in negotiation. So far we only hear the story from Kawaii Production's side.

>>47056266
>Anchor for latest drama
I'm not sure how to feel about this

>>47056323
>17,409: Kiara (Hololive)
>So wHy diD the HoLoENN VR sTrEAM do so POOoopy?
This is what you sound like.
Keep that shit for NA hours.
Fuck you, ENs are all doing shitty outside the Ai streamer.

>>47056025
Pekora want to turn nijisanji tourists into hololive viewers. Nijisanji tourists really like tournament right?

>>47056116
I kneel, Pekora. You can always be trusted when it matters.

>>47056179
I hope these twitter likes and tractions will boost her subs little more

>>47056116
>APRIL 2023 GOLDS
1) Toya (Nijisanji) - 56,531 - Genderbent stream
2) Hal (Neo Porte) - 110,960 - VSaikyo 5 landmark lottery
3) Pekora (Hololive) - 95,630 - Puyo Puyo Tetris 2 w/Suisei
4) Chiroru (Indie) - 32,268 - Hanshin Tigers vs. Hiroshima watchalong
5) Miko (Hololive) - 62,251 - Puyo Puyo Tetris 2 totsu
6) Okayu (Hololive) - 70,189 - New outfit reveal
7) Ponto (Nijisanji) - 66,820 - 3D debut
8) Miko (Hololive) - 38,482 - Minecraft
9) Ryushen (Nijisanji) - 78,299 - Smash Bros. Tournament
10) Pekora (Hololive) - 95,630 - Puyo Puyo Tetris 2 tournament draw

>PER COMPANY
5x: Hololive
3x: Nijisanji
1x: Indie, Neo Porte

>PER STREAMER
2x: Miko, Pekora
1x: Chiroru, Hal, Okayu, Ponto, Ryushen, Toya

>2023 GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
76x: Hololive
17x: Nijisanji
4x: Indie
2x: Neo Porte
1x: VSPO

>PER STREAMER
29x: Pekora
9x: Marine
6x: Miko
5x: Toya
4x: Subaru
3x: Hololive, Mio, Okayu, Suisei
2x: Chiroru, Hal, Koyori, Kuzuha, Lamy, Nerumero, Nijisanji, Towa
1x: Aqua, Ayame, Choco, Gaku, Gura, Himawari, Hinano, Ina, Kiara, Mito, Mori, Nozomi, Polka, Ponto, Roco, Ryushen, Shion, Watame, Yashiro

With this Pekora has reached the same total annual golds as she had at the end of August last year

>>47056137
The irony is they making it more sus by doing this.

>>47056440
You have to give this thread one thing: it is shitty and full of shitty people discussing the shittiest subjects, but at least they can organize their stuff neatly, like an arsonist carefully folding the fire blankets before hiding them away to prevent people from saving themselves

>>47056329
This guy has to be fairly affluent in Thailand. All that international travel ain't cheap.

>>47055888
/news/ anchor
Reply with a short description of the news and a link to the source!

News from the last thread:
>Bae outfit reveal 16th April Morning JST
https://twitter.com/hakosbaelz/status/1645277677614694400
>(ex-)NijiID graduation, ZEA Cornelia, Taka Rajima, Siska Leontyne, Amicia Michella, between may to July
https://twitter.com/NIJISANJI_ID/status/1645275445179584512
>Production Kawaii venue 3D live event, 1st July, PDT
https://twitter.com/kawaiiOfficial5/status/1645411459193774081
>Brave group launches new project "HareVare" together with a new round of auditions
https://twitter.com/P2y_jp/status/1645253430016106496
>Nabi's coming back
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oMGlXTKT-zo
>HoloEarth monetization, with its first stamp pack
https://twitter.com/Holoearth_JP/status/1645367868425482245
>Merch sales number for all that closed today
>>47036436
>No much news so look at this Sui-chan plushie
https://twitter.com/nhk_vtuberradio/status/1645056468943552514

That was a great horse race Pekora came back and put those nijiniggers in their place. . More words of note are /pol/, Based, Larping, Acceleration and anything to do with Goy or Jews.

It is what it is though, Pekora will always find a way to win one over Niji. Btw are there any EN streams tonight? I only remember something about Bae typing.

>>47056503
Koshien will be useless for yearly winner uh

>luca 2023 birthday and coutn down stream
$44,600 USD

>luca 2023 birthday and countdown stream (so far)
$20,700 USD

>>47056527
Isn't he a former merc (or active merc, former military)?
You take one "vacation" in some shitty place like Central African Republic, Syria or Ukraine and, if you return home intact, your bank account will be filled with the good stuff.

>>47056525
Damned if you do damned if you don't

>>47054800
I seen more fanarts of Ina butt than I have of literally any other holo. That means nothing

I think Sora is cute

Thoughts?

>>47056591
>luca 2022 birthday and coutn down stream
$44,600 USD

messed that one

>>47056503
>With this Pekora has reached the same total annual golds as she had at the end of August last year
my knees...

>>47056636
really hope blue journey is only blue holos

>>47056116
What was the peak for Pekora's metronome tourney draft? 73k or something? This tournament is looking like a 170k - 200k stream at very least then. Possibly even more.

>>47056643
just re-post it

>>47056503
>same peak on both puyo puyo streams
bots ?

>>47056636
This isn't my usual doctor

>>47056467
>mad respsonse every time Lucas SHIT numbers are brought up

>>47053563
> Aia hidden by Shu's accessory
kek

my cute wife

>>47056500
don't hold too much hope into twitter numbers

>>47056116

>>47056500
Anon twitter engagement means little...

>>47056769
do Lucucks actually exist on this board?

>>47056503
>Started adopting the tourneysanji technique
>Minecraft numbers are now back to 2020 tier
>Finally went back to her old weekend slot
>Finally got the streamhatchet recognition she wanted.
What's her endgame? What will she do next?

>>47056179
The hell? I thought her sub growth returned to normal
oic, there was just a period of 3 days where she didn't tick, but now she's back to about a tick a day

>>47056889
>>47056116

>>47056740
wait no i'm retarded and forgot to change it after copypasting lmao, will be corrected in future posts

>>47056800
>100k likes
Jesus fucking christ, imagine if even a small part of those watched streams and not just clips (at best)

>>47056910
yes, back when he had the copyright yab, there was a lucub unironically spamming in the numbers thread defending him.

>>47056116
>>47056889

MumeiCoin
buy buy buy

>>47057001
Those are the tourists who come around specifically for homocollabs and nothing else.

>>47056800
holy numbers
baffling how does kronii have less followers than mumei

>>47056612
He's former special forces, not a merc
I don't know what he's currently doing but it seems to be some kind of office job

Has Mumei ticked yet? Last I check she was in 822k

>>47057026
>>47056116

>>47056179
IRyS should be the one growing this fast...

>>47052022
>>47052850
>>47052986
>>47053202
reminder that pekoschizo and mikoschizo are the same person samefagging

>>47056800
wada sucks at blue nero

>>47056769
All EN numbers are fucking shit, because you lazy fucks can't stay in a stream for long enough for the YT bots to label you as a real human.
I'm just saying to keep this depressing shit for your NA time. We have Peko lewds to think about now.

What is this vark shorts I've been seeing around?

>>47056925
hololive baseball

>>47056116

hololive should have a billiards tournament

>>47057176
Based on what exactly?

>>47056116

[Deleted]
kek

>>47056799
*Tempiss' whore

hololive should have a gambling tournament

>>47057154
>>47056116

>>47056439
so we won't know the full story unless the gen3 girls break NDA, which probably isn't worth it.

>>47057228
god can you fucking IMAGINE the shitposting in here if they made a holo koshien and ran it at a similar time to niji's

hololive should have tournament where they compete in order to become members of my harem

>>47057193
INDOCHADS WE CANNOT STOP WINNING

>>47057109
>some kind of office job
Yeah, "office in charge of disappearing people"

>>47057295
>>47056116

Hololive should have a proper 3D track relay where they cosplay as Horse Girls.

>>47057375
wrong brown people archipelago anon

>>47056328
Listening to Reina right now it sounds like an absolute monster of a woman moment

>>47057218
is an app
you canuse your model on preset animations/video edits

>>47056137
I have the feeling that Kawaii is in the right here, just from the "vibe" of their graduation stream. Management and ALL the girls were pretty united behind that narrative, so it's similar to Rushia's firing.
In comparison, Zaion's thing was utter bullshit, and a lot of livers (rightfully) distanced themselves from that shitshow, so there wasn't any "unity" behind that decision.

>>47057353
hello Ollie

>>47057435
What's she saying?

getting really desperate

https://youtu.be/HJRIxT-DBVQ

someone must really pressure them for numbers behind the scenes

>>47055226
Even if Marine killed her voice she wouldn’t be able to stream enough. That’s why my point is no other current female streamer could be number 1 except her and this is with her current stream schedule. There is no if for any current female streamers. This is why I called you a retard.

>>47056925
She wants to own a racehorse.

>>47057469
She was trying to talk to them and discussing their problems and thought she had won them over and then they decided to go through with it anyway and she isn't really sure why

>>47057269
She's my WifeRyS and i think she deserves it, not someone who's been on break for the past few weeks.

>>47056266
well this is an improvement

>>47057346
that's why they should do it seeing nijiniggers cry about it would give me a boner that would last for a week

>>47057484
holy shit this is reaching almost daily ratio, the gook rapist redebut didn't pan out like they thought ah

>>47057457
Maybe they thought they didn’t need the corpo anymore and thought they’d do better if they cut the middle man out and became indies.

>>47057461
It's not Ollie. She would include Homos in tournament.

>>47057391
>>47056116

/#/ it's been six month since the new homo debut and they still haven't had any group collabs with the girls

>>47057530
Imagine if any appear in idolEN oy vey the root has been found

>>47057626
>>47056116

>>47057637
good news from the future thank you anon

>>47057539
let be honest here, irys casual outfit will not be as good and as natural looking as mumei, she's too fantasy looking with those horns

>>47057637
>six month
>Debuted in january
>It's april now
Numbers in charge of numbers...

>>47057484
I think theres a ticking clock on HoloStars
Investors really riling them up

>>47057451
oh I see, thanks

So... when will Peko enter the top 10 most watched time streamers?

>>47057539
IRyS channel is cursed in ways that not even the best onmyoji of japan can cleanse it, and you can't even call for a check-up or the youtube bot will flag everything retroactively burying it even deeper.

>>47056116
>>47057682

>>47057539
So you like her, so what. More people clearly like Mumei. She should try to be more likeable.

>>47057637
Do you hear reina heartbreak about the girls leaving

>>47057484
He really is going to spam these collabs to hide his actual numbers. Wonder if Matsuri's fans are going to get annoyed by all of these collabs with him.

>>47057484
>someone must really pressure them for numbers behind the scenes
It's not "behind the scenes" if one of them already disclosed that some perks are only unlocked on 300k subs, which they'll reach, AT THE CURRENT RATE, in
>May or June for Roberu
>September or October for Astel
>2024 for Tempus 1
and for the rest (including Aruran), maybe never ever?

That's what might be motivating them to try and push things forward, except Aruran is one of the worst performers specially after his "makeover", he was one of the few sub 1M to go
>ZERO ZERO ZERO
in his sub metrics (after the remodel)

>>47057484
are they going for at least 1 homo collab a day?
but it will all be in vain, because the audience will NEVER watch them

>>47057484
They’re trying pretty hard to prop him up but his solo numbers to still rival Uyu

>>47057484
Aruran has really gone downhill since his fuckboi model

>>47057740
>>47056116

>>47057758
Yes? How is that even anchorposting if it is using things that are being actively discussed in this thread

>>47057734
Depends on how she'll finish this year.

>>47057769
>there are still sub 100k homos

>>47057808
Why did he abandon the oldman troupe?
It separates him from normal male vtuber
What gives!?

>>47057822
>>47056116

>>47057884
He could have been Homo-Maimoto. He fucked up hard

>>47057884
He always hated it

>>47057734
with her full numbers (7.22 mln) she's on pace to almost match asmongold alt stream for 2022, and spic streamers are leagues beyond that, draw your conclusions.

>>47057769
>some perks are only unlocked on 300k subs
Is that their equivalent of 1M? Do they get the wish?

>>47057896
>>47056116

>>47057484
>>47057769
Seriously though what compels him to trade his unique model to a general fuckboy #635274 model. He practically lost the only thing that made him unique and sticks out among the rest of his group.

>>47057484
Stars are rattled. At the very least Aruran.

>>47057769
Oh no, Suntempo gonna get passed by Uproar in a couple of months (except Uyu)

>>47056116
OH NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO
NIJIBRONIES???

>>47057884
Because he was insecure about being called an old man.

>>47057982
>>47056116

>>47057953
They get custom merch at 300k now

>>47057769
Uyu-san....

>>47057485
Gura can beat her anon.

>>47058041
>being called an old man
Its a fucking compliment!
Is he a zoomer or something?

>>47056116
>>47057982

>>47057769
I miss watching Yuzuki Choco Sub streaming long as ARK everyday..

>>47057637
Nice try, Cover employee.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZXBfr0D5vE
They not just collabed with girls, they collabed with the JP girls.
The only one who jumped off and deserve some credit was Izuru from HolostarsJP, who openly declined the invite, which every of these groomers could have done as well.

was the holopuyotetris hashtag trending at any point in time? the akina 3d live was number 2 in japan

>>47057953
NTA but according to what Rikka told his members, they can only get back the right to make custom merch once they reach 300k, else they're stuck with mass produced merchs from now on.

>>47057769
Here is the same list, sorted by "last 30 days"
>Uyu won't beat 100k this year
>Aruran might not beat 200k this year
>Magni and Vesper subs growth are at the bottom half of the Holostars table, both trailing ALL StarsEN

Somehow "mindchair" is not working well for them

>>47058127
>>47056116

>>47057484
I don’t really care at all about this, but I genuinely find it funny how this thread would go nuclear over any single EN collab that’d happen and was VEHEMENTLY saying that JP does not do collabs more than EN does, and now that JP is doing collabs on the daily now, those same people are doing damage control and trying to spin it like it’s nothing.

I really don’t get why people had to cause so much drama for days and weeks if they’re gonna act like this when JP does the very same thing

>>47057484
this is just unnatural not that I give a shit about pizzalad collabing with girls

>>47056116
>>47058186

>>47058115
No, for fuck sake, half this thread pretend to be ojisans for the bragging rights (with half of that half being actual ojisans in denial, but I digress...)

>>47058185
Astel (and Axel?) getting buffed by Apex?

>>47058170
KEK! so thats why they keep riling up this collabs

>>47057457
>there wasn't any "unity" behind that decision.
Not really. Most xsoleil just gave cookie cutter statements with very little emotional attachment. Finana said she was gaslighted. At the very least she has no real friend in nijiEN.

>>47058186
It's kinda funny though looking at these AI images, it seems like there's 2 most prominent style that at least being posted here
>Ina's artstyle
>And the other artstyle who anons /here/ must be familiar already

>>47057790
They'll watch the collabs but they never translate to increased viewership for the homos, JP or EN.

>>47058238
>>47056116

>>47058231
>and was VEHEMENTLY saying that JP does not do collabs more than EN does
Don't forget the "in their channels" part because it would be a lie saying otherwise anyway, given that some pairings were fixtures for collabs on the stars channels

>>47058185
>Somehow "mindchair" is not working well for them
accessories don't have mindchairs, they are part of The Squad aka the Mori UMG shilling clique.

>>47058281
Also they lost their anniversary merch iirc

>>47058306
>>47058238

>>47057617
nijien thread schizos alwasy giving summary so i dont have to wacth the stream

Also luca and sonny will ofcollab next day so maybe a cripple gold contender.

>>47058170
That explains why the BFE streamers Rikka & Astel are rising the fastest

>>47057824
is this true

>>47058115
It's probably the Japanese mentality of not wanting to standout even when it helps him.

>>47057790
You can argue that it's the best scenario for all these collabs: stagnation.
the bad scenario is of course it just accelerate the already reclining number even more which is what happened with the HomoEN

>>47058381
the hero lapu exchange yes, the coping who knows/care

>>47058381
Yes

>>47058262
>Astel (and Axel?) getting buffed by Apex?
Massively. Here is Axel
>30 DAYS TRUE AVERAGE AND MEDIAN OF PEAKS
chart.

He is SINGLE HANDEDLY anchoring the StarsEN average on their current levels, and increasing the Tempus 1 average due to long "high" CCV APEX streams.

Question: when will VSaikyou finals happene again?
>2023-04-15
That's more or less the deadline for StarsEN find their groove and get it going because the numbers won't move in a favorable direction after that

Why did Jewelbox streams do so poorly today?

>>47058322
Nobody benefits individually from 'The Squad'™ collabs.

>>47056054
What seethe stream? Qrd?

So axels team has been doing good in vsaikyo, which is really reminding me of how startend was getting praised. So i have a feeling it's going to go the same way when the actual tournament happens with them placing really low.

>>47058381
based but chiichan doesn't need more antis

>>47058366
>>47056116

>>47058482
idk, they god decent kills, but they didnt got that many high placements

>>47058477
The tournament itself is on 14th IIRC
>>47058482
I have no idea about overlaps but they were dogshit today

>>47058477
Here, for comparison, is Magni. Along with Regis and Vesper (and even Axel himself) he just bounced from his career low recently but, unlike Axel, he didn't find a way to incline himself

>>47057594
Honestly it’s weird when you compare the terminations to this graduation. Oceane for example they said she did alot of nasty shit, having some girls want to graduate (hindsight 20/20), but they didn’t hate her. This scenario should be much more peaceful but they feel angry here. They weren’t even close to this mad at oceane and she supposedly hard doxxed multiple talents and was bullying gen 3. Maybe the shills were right and Aletta framed her to become number 1

>>47055957
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcKtBqDleU0

>>47058571
>They weren’t even close to this mad at oceane
I wouldn't call this mad, mad is when one of the girls were talking about Neena, this is just confusion

>>47057769
>sub 100k
>got 3D
Preferential treatment, everyone

>>47058185
why can't they succeed are they just untalented or do they not have skills to make it. Guys will watch girls do whatever as long as their cute, but what would it take for guys to watch guys, being good at games? being funny?

>>47058535
>>47056116

>>47058559
amE... destroying your numbers for those results...

>>47058571
>more peaceful but they feel angry here
I can see a scenario where this is not strange
>Gen 3 girls made demands above and beyond what management could accept and gave management an ultimatum: accept or we all graduate
>Gen 1 and 2, in the company from the start, knew why management couldn't accept and didn't side with gen 3
I would be angry too, if new coworkers joined my shop, tried to raise a stink and left leaving the existing boys short handed and the company with their plans at square one

>>47058571
I mean it's understandable that they feel more strongly towards this compared to the Oceane case. They lost an entire gen, ffs. Even just from the optics alone it's not a good look in the long run, compared to Oceane's case where you can just dump what happened to her as an individual.

>>47056116
How did Pekora make those numbers when it was just a draft and not even the tournament yet?

Are you telling me Nijisanji lost to a draft stream?

>>47058515
Because they’re making a target of themselves by showing off. They’re all gonna go “let’s kill that cheat team first”.

>>47058559
>Axel's team #2
How fucking livid would the JP apex community be if a foreigner team with 200-300 ping ended up winning?

>>47058660
From what I remember the cutting point for 3D for the stars is 50k (or used to be)
It is not that it is preferential treatment, it is that it is not *new* preterential treatment

>>47058740
the wheel spin and the ccv goes up

>>47058703
>>47056116

>>47058529
Selen never collab with chihiro for apex before?
I must have forgotten if chihiro ever collabed with nijiEN

>>47058724
>if new coworkers joined my shop, tried to raise a stink and left leaving the existing boys short handed and the company with their plans at square one
But if they left in protest I wouldn't be mad. I will just think they are retarded.

>>47058795
kek, Pekora made it a point to spin the wheel WITH A SINGLE CHOICE for Iroha (lucky number seven). She's not dumb, she knew the stream peak would come from showing the full bracket filled and took those few seconds to incline the peak a little more

>>47058776
Looking forward them making a fuss about point scam kek

>>47057734
At the end of the day she is hard capped because of all the debuffs placed on her
>YouTubes shit algorythm and CCV detection system
>Female
>Vtuber
>Japanese
It is really difficult for her to make it she is already kind of overdrafting from the current market it's not that pekora isn't strong enough it's just that the market cannot support her anymore

>>47058776
With how 3pt Regis Altare is performing? Very.

>luxiem
>nijijp
>iron lung
>only 12k
>lose to kiara

>>47058559
How is it possible to get 0 kills in 5 matches? Honhima...

>>47058800
>>47056116

>>47058776
i want them to win to see the shitshow

>>47058170
KEK, that was probably some holoboss' way to stop wasting money by pulling up the rug for a couple years
theyll let Roberu cash in to keep them happy but the rug will pull up again to 500k shortly after Astel gets his privileges back

>>47057734
>women
>top 10
good joke, anon

>>47058559
I think they will rig the tournament so that Kuzuha's team win

>>47056116
>>47058918

>>47058740
draft streams are huge jp torusit traps
niji do them all the time they have a tourney.

>>47058381
WTF, I love Nijicunny now?

>>47058740
She plays the meta very cleanly, eventually she'll start adopting the tiktok adhd meta and just insert overstimulation bullshit in her stream while she's gambling for maximum viewership and /#/ will love it.

Holobrony status?

>>47058677
the holo audience does not care about the homos, you can only ever find success if you go outside it as a homo
but because the streamer is filled with entertaining male streamers you have to latch onto another box (like Roberu did, and Astel is doing)

>>47058511
You know, the one where most of NijiEN pretended they are on 4cahn and shitposted about each other and was the source of many amazing things like FlopSoleil

>>47058280
That's just her gen + Finana
and Kotoka actively shit on her, saying she "could not wish her well"... for someone that made a fucking joke? bit too much.
Even the Kawaii girls that had to toss out a (supposed) doxxer from their gen just tried to move away from the whole thing, did not talk about future wishes or anything of that sort.

>>47058559
bronze king...

>>47058776
I don't recall any blowback when Rest in Ping did really well.

>>47058818
>But if they left in protest I wouldn't be mad
That's the think, I would be LIVID if it jeopardized the plans for the rest of the employees.
Imagine you work at an auto shop and it booked a lot of customers in a growth period knowing they could handle them fine because they just hired more hands to help, and these new hands decide to negotiate AND QUIT at that crucial moment.
I would be livid, now the rest of the employers would have to either work extra shifts to make up for it or everybody would get fucked by the loss of revenue

>>47058677
guys dont want them because theyre faggots, they want bros not brojobs
girls dont want them because they rely on group consensus to make their decisions and the homos are not popular

>>47058894
why the fuck he has a hearthbeat monitor for a birthday totsu, throw in also a handcam eating cake at this point

>>47058884
He's out performing both Selen and Axel according to the numbers. I was watching Laplus POV and Chihiro didn't last long against them, Then again she's carrying laplus so it's to be expected.

>>47058322
>>47058509
and the worse part is that Mori won't even rotate any of the new homos in, she dead set on only collabing with her gay best friend(Magni) and kronii main sqeeze(vesper)

>>47059020
Likely in the clouds, with both them and Niji having a massive advantage of Kizuna AI.
How did the world change this much in five years?

>>47058978
>First 3 placements being fucking point scams
hopefully there's no longer another apex tournament like vsaikyou after this last one by hal

>>47058776
>more people hating the homos
sounds good to me

>>47058677
For stars JP, it’s both along with being associated with the Hololive brand makes it worse for them. Iirc fucking Temma can get 1k streams on his rm but struggles getting 300-400 as a Star

>>47058677
They're aiming for the wrong market
"Brotubing" means competing with (more talented) fleshstreamers, and only get the scraps of the holo audience that are willing to watch homos
Only Bettel seems to have the right idea

>>47059086
Gotta stack all the buffs

>>47058992
>>47056116

>>47059036
https://files.catbox.moe/4c9kkg.txt

So is Neuro officially the largest indie on Twitch now?

>>47058876
If one day she truely surpasses all debuffs placed on her and enters top 10 it will be a defining moment for women in entertainment no joke

>>47058571
Oceane was more cut and dry, in this case they felt more connected to the ones they lost and probably even argued about the differences so it hurt more

>>47059020
Hololive was only half of that before.
Seems like they are winning a lot of zoomer mindshare.

>>47059042
Zaion must did something nasty.

>>47059108
Anon he gets those damage numbers because he's the team's sniper armor farmer. He's actually nowhere near Selen and Axel in real skill.

>>47058231
You literally ignored a few threads back where people were saying they hope Cover takes a blow from spamming all these all of sudden and adding them to every main event so far. There’s literally just Holosummer that’s only hologirls left. Blue journey for all we know is the first holopro live concert

>>47059183
Yeah long ago, or preety much vtuber in general she might even give ironlung a run for her money

>>47059020
>894
Worthless graph.

>>47059125
I assume it's because those two are the ones who kiss her ass the best.

>>47059225
Japanese kids are growing up loving pekora. She'll be their childhood crush that they remember for the rest of their lives.

>>47059228

>>47059018
Pekora is perfectly aware of Twitch's meta. She's been since 2020 as she said multiple times how she watches Twitch streamers for ideas.
Her own meta is pretty much the opposite, though.

>>47059061
I would be fucking mad if I need to put in extra hours because some fuckers left but that is not the case for gen3 leaving. Gen1+2 can just stream as usual without more burdens on them. This would be like some retards leaving and made the project impossible for your company to carry out anymore but it is not part of your project so it is all good.

>>47058381
IT'S REAL
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9FK_6eu6K1E&t=10733

>>47059280
8k seems to be the cap for Neuro but who knows after new model and voice.

>>47056234
Is there a video of her doing what the fubuki cosplayer did

>>47059252
Ah so that's why, I only saw he got double their damage and the most kills so it was something like that. Still, he's hardly a 3pt player. Laplus, i can see being 3 pts that guy should be more.

>>47059158
>>47056116

>>47059193
>>47057734
>>47059193
her main problem is she doesnt stream 10 hours a day, her CCV numbers are good enough to hit top 10 she just doesnt stream as much as the degens on twitch

>>47059287
>t. retard who doesn't know anything about statistics

>>47055957
>>47056066
Qrd?

>>47059400
Blame HAL for his own rules. Also they are playing with 200 ping so calling them a scam is pure bullshit anyways.

>>47059145
>Only Bettel seems to have the right idea
It's hard to be a brotuber when you're sporting a fuckboi model.

>>47059173
Slightly more updated: https://files.catbox.moe/3kh6i7.txt
Only diff is confirmation on hex username

>>47059360
Nah, then leaving like they did put a huge dent in their company’s reputation and they’ve been playing PR rep to minimize the damage.

>>47059225
>Seems like they are winning a lot of zoomer mindshare
>hire tiktok zoomers
>zoomer fanbase increases

>>47059403
>>47056116

>>47059020
>Period: Dec 2022
>Target: 894 male + female respondents aged 15-39 who are "Interested in vtubers".
>Method: Internet questionnaire, multiple choice
>Survey by 矢野経済研究所
a literal who market researcher with peanuts sample size, nahone
nahone

>>47059433
t. retard that thinks 800 is a decent sample size

>>47059020
>quick, post any winning numbers to deflect the akina slip!

>>47059373
>laplus not caring enough to know or just not giving a shit about hanging chii-chan out to dry instead of pretending not to hear the question
Based zoomzoom

>>47056800
I don’t even think gura has had a post reach 100k likes in over a year. This does explain the collabs now though 90% Twitter tourist who only show up for that.

Luca arranging an offcollab with a giggling Pomu
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQU-hZKaPMQ&t=9471
Pomu plans to take Luca all around Shibuya
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQU-hZKaPMQ&t=9654
"I'll give you the REAL maid-cafe experience"
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQU-hZKaPMQ&t=9717
Pomu tells Luca about her lacy panties
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQU-hZKaPMQ&t=9870

>>47059383
Nevermind they will probably be 9k soon.

>>47058149
>one of the homos rejected the invite
Werid, didnt think they could be this based, does he do BFE or something?

>>47059635
Nah, he's just cripplingly autistic

>>47057026
go go peko-chan

>>47059604
>gura has had a post reach 100k likes in over a year.
one did for sure, that one.

>>47059635
Izuru just wants to be left alone.

Test

>>47057739
>you can't even call for a check-up or the youtube bot will flag everything retroactively
Why's that?

>>47059543
>>47056116

>>47059183
The guy behind her(Picrel) is there so it's fleshstreamer buff shit from twitch. Same happens with Fillian.
That thing avg still 5k.

>>47059615
numbers?

>>47059635
Izuru has no issue collabing with JP girls (see Cinema). He just fucking hates foreigners with a passion.

>>47057734
>>47059408
She's not gonna win by sheer numbers, what she should be doing is do what Pokimane did when she got that small inkling of spotlight back then and aim for unironic Mindchair.
The effect of Pokimane's personal PR push as the image of a female streamer still echoes to this day despite literally falling off to the twitch popularity.

>>47052140
>ASTONISHINGLY BASED AS FUCK
Anon-様これはベースードですよ~

i do not like apex
i do not like valo
i do not like ow
i do not like green eggs and ham

>>47056116
>>47059732

>>47059857
I do like CSGO?

>>47059857
Then try to promote CSGO to the Japs. I think there is a major update for CSGO recently too.

>>47059857
buh buh buh B A S E D

>>47059685
testing a new bot already nijifag?
god you niggers are pathetic spending money to bot shitpost here

>>47059857
So you will eventually grow to like Apex, Valo, and OW?

>>47059555
Because it is, you dumb fuck.

>>47058109
You’re right but we’re already in April. If Gura had Pekora’s stream schedule she could definitely be top 5. Only these 2 females could be the number 1 streamer if they tried harder.

> T-they're learning?!
>THEY'RE LEARNING !
>Holy fuck I never thought I'd see the day.
>Finally, FINALLY one of the HoloEN girls is learning from their JP senpai and doing fan interaction RIGHT.
>And she's surprisingly good at it too, not just doing a generic "cute" post, but using a scenario which activates a memory that ANY person who has gone to school or college would have (even if they don't, their brain will CREATE it for them.). She gives JUST enough context to set the scene, yet leaves out all the details which can be filled in by individual fans according to their own experiences.
>90% of which will be the one time they may or may not have gotten together with their school/college crush for a group project.
>By inserting herself into that space in their memories, she can grab hold of the SOULS of a large number of her fans, and farm a HUGE amount of gachikois who will dedicate their hearts for her.

>A lot of JP holos regularly do this type of thing, but more as "good morning" or "good night" type tweets, which has the additional purpose of keeping their mindshare up among their fans if they're not streaming that often.

>>47059321
here a Rrat:When they introduce all the new homo behind the scene she tried to get them to follow her brand of unity and got "no way fag"

>>47059978
She can beat pekora anon. Trust the process.

>>47059707
first rule of youtube, never dispute and have their worms go through your videos, it's all automated. the odds of being fucked forever aren't 0% twitter is full of creators that trying to remove a strike or demonetization got their channel ruined.

>>47058381
Nah, blatant falsehood through out of context bullshit. Sasuga Chihiro anti squad.

https://youtu.be/va4DFdHZvEQ?t=12805
> *game ends after a confusing fight, the POV they were watching are the last to die*
> who won? - all, incl. Laplus
> *champion screen appears : Selen's team*
> Oooh - Chihiro
> Ah it's Selen-san - Laplus
> Ahh - Sumire
> She's good - Laplus
> Selen is good, yeah - Chihiro
> She's from abroad is it? - Sumire
> She's from Nijisanji EN - Laplus

All of them were asking だれ after the last fight since their POV folks died and so they had no idea who killed them and won.
Laplus was the loudest in asking as well.

>>47058169
so that's a no i guess

>>47059183
I wonder how many of her viewers are actually vtuber fans and people jumping on the generative AI bandwagon.

>Enter numberfag general thread
>It's infested with rush job greentexts and walls of text
GET OUT OF MY THREAD

>>47060075
Considering how the spic and red homo acted a little after debut? No way that is true.

>>47059383
I think a new model & voice would be a debuff after the initial tourist pull. For better or worse, a good chunk of her identity is associated to that stock model to the point where the guy running it should look at buying the rights to it.

>>47060157

>>47059860
>>47056116
Pekora has a lot of high-quality AI images on Pixiv right now. too bad I can't post them because they're all fucking nude.

>>47059604
https://twitter.com/gawrgura/status/1528524440316874752 152k - May 2022
>honorary mention
https://twitter.com/gawrgura/status/1619171550284107776 97.2k - 2.2M views - Jan 2023
>uh oh tweet
130k - Oct 2022
She had a lot of 60-70k tweets last year but +100k was rare

>>47060272
>>47056116

>>47056116
>97,308: Pekora (Hololive)
/OUR/ NUMBERS QUEEN. Our /#/ Mascot does it again. Pekora I fucking KNEEL.

>>47059970
>no u
Twitter polls are more authentic than this shit.

>>47058677
>why can't they succeed
NOBODY (outside of Nijisanji) can succeed as boy vtubers.
Here is the ranking for
>TRUE AVERAGE, YEAR TO DATE, MALE VTUBERS , NOT FROM ANYCOLOR
with five or more streams in the year (to exclude Peanuts-kun, call it the Peanuts-Ayame rule)

1) There are only 71 tracked ones
2) Tamaki is not a real boy but neither is Rio so >he stays in (along with other reverse babinikus I might not know)
3) All of the top is made of hyper specialists that can only get numbers with their specialities
>except that Samidare Kuya dude
4) Only 22 of them are on 3 digits, but based on the current performance for StarsEN, specially Tempus 2, that number might go back down to some 15
5) Even Shibuya Hal got blindsided and now Neo-Porte has a legit 2 views

The conclusion from seeing that should be
>there is no market for male vtubers regardless of talent, except if they're hyperfocused specialists and a reference in their respective niches.
Now, one my ask
>why the fuck can Ancyolor make it work?

I say the succeeded at "Nijisanjification" of the male vtuber market, and for the same reason Hololive succeeded at the "idolification" of the vtuber market
>the audience has an expectation from the product being offered and NIjisanji provides it

Girls want fuckboys?
>Nijisanji has them
Girls want shy boys?
>Nijisanji has them
The audience want boys that can banter and shoot some korean while spouting japanese loaded language on FPS?
>Nijisanji has them
Girls want dildo holding blowjob reenacting dungeon locking sex pests?
>Nijisanji has them

Why would a girl wanting male vtubers look anywhere else when every three to four months a new batch of ready made fit for purpose new lives are debuted?
All of the other girls are satisfied and they vouch for the existing ones.

kson warned about a market that dies (for everybody else) if the Hololive model of female vtubers is held as the "gold standard" of the industry
>and they are, and it will likely come to be
For male vtubers, the future is now and the market is cornered for all intents.

Now, if the StarsEN boys thought about it very deeply, they had the key to their success at their own hands and threw it away.
As the example above show, only hyper specialists can succeed outside of Nijisanji. Now, take one of the most exciting gen wide activities disclosed by Tempus 1
>their DnD adventures

Even the fans of Myth were salivating at the chance of watching the return of the TTRPG because they got a taste from Myth but that doesn't look like it's coming back.
Now, in "imagine world"
>Imagine if Tempus had made their trademark to roleplay as a proper guild with DnD being a center piece of the attractions they provide
I say they would be in a much better position now. But they didn't, so they aren't.

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>>47059373
Check from Chihiro's perspective where there's voice highlights depending on who's speaking >>47060093
Sumire (VSPO) is the one asking who she is, Laplus is replying to her. Chihiro says Selen is strong.

>>47056925
Keep streaming and do whatever she like such as buying Chiikawa merch

>>47059552
The more concerning thing is
>No details on %M/F breakdown
when we KNOW that Hololive is very heavily %Male, and Niji leans way more heavily into a female audience than Hololive does.
A sample size of ~1k is, iirc, sufficient for an okay look at things.

>>47059360
Losing a whole gen all at once will obviously increase both their work load and their responsibilities to carry the company
It's not hard to understand, imagine if EN3 had never debute-

>>47060384
You're literally proving me right.
>t. retard who doesn't know anything about statistics

>>47059228
yeah, she did something no liver is supposed to do.

>>47060157
>*TELEPORTS BEHIND YOU*
That's some nice intergluteal cleft you got there anon.

Patiently waiting for May 25th.

>>47058876
Why would you think youtube isn’t giving the actual stats for the graphs this makes them look better. Vtuber isn’t a debuff if so many of Hololive takes almost half of the top 10 for females. She’s the number 1 female currently and is growing yearly Japanese isn’t a debuff. Being a woman is definitely a debuff but enough of a problem. She literally just has to stream more or do more tournaments. Why can’t people use critical thinking before saying dumb shit

>>47060188
I think it depends on the kind of makeover she gets. A lot of her shtick works because she looks and sounds like a young girl so the retarded shit she says is endearing. If they make her into a bimbo as westerners are prone to do then yeah its gonna be over.

>>47060035

>>47060460
or a breakdown on age for that matter...

>>47059020
>n=894
nice try nijifag

>>47060480
it sounded like they wanted to delay "the idol project" so that might even be the reason the concert got announced now when they are gone

>>47057484
The saddest thing is that he is the only one THIS desperate, not even Oga Roberu or Astel are like this

How many graduations did nijisanji have in the last 6 months?

>>47060387
nigga, you might have a graph but im not reading all that shit.

>>47060498
NTA, but please explain, statistician-kun.

>>47060387
How about if girls want husbando material vtubers?

>>47059339
Gotta ignore retard newfags

>>47060362
>>47056116

>>47060626
Just think of it as averaging at least 1 chuba/month kek

>>47060384
>>47059555
Fucking
R
E
T
A
R
D

>>47058894
Would have lost to IRyS too if it wasn't for Mori having a stream at the same time.

>>47058677
>Guys to watch guys
Already wrong demographic, if dude want to watch dude they would watch flesh streamers, not Vtubers

>>47060387
Tempus DND failed cause they went with monsters instead of self inserts (besides the whole Vesper thing) imo.

>>47060556
Yeah but Idk if people in the /#/ have pointed this out, but whenever Pekora or like other top tier starts streaming a specific game. The the youtube gaming category for that game won't show the live stream list and instead will show archived bullshit for roughly 30-60 minutes. You guys should give it a look next time, it shows how rigged this game is.
If pekora wants to win she better make more friends, maybe this time in youtube.

>>47060605
The idol project is only Gen 1 and 2 for now. Gen 3 would enter after they start their crowdfunding for 3D

>>47057769
I tought tempoop would have crossed 100K by now, What a flop lmao.

>>47060460
>A sample size of ~1k is, iirc, sufficient for an okay look at things.
Not a self selected one. One of the premises for "a margin of error of 3.4% with 95% confidence" (or whatever number they claim) is that the sample is random and representative of the whole population.

One way to explain that is to equate it to sampling a soup. You don't need to eat a whole plate to determine if it has enough salt, you can take a small spoonful and taste.
But that depends on the soup to be homogeneously mixed so the random spoonful you took does not deviate too much from the whole soup.

>>47060498
You are trolling, right? You're just out to farm (you)'s, right?
All we know of their sample population is that they're respondents who claim to be interested in VTubers.
There's no information on how or where they actually found these people. Nor any real data on distribution.

>>47060816
it fail because vesper and alter got into both got their feefee hort

>>47060699
>>47056116

>>47059020
>faking a questionnaire
the absolute amount of butthurt nijinigs feel because of hololive...

>>47060670
The first sentence is the summary
>nobody outside of Nijisanji or hyper specialists can currently succeed as boy vtubers

>>47059145
Nene is the most successful member kawaii she makes so much money

>>47060859
Yea, I didn't remember the specifics since the last time I took stats was...
>Looks at the year
Ah shit. Well, let's just say it was a while ago okay? I just remember that ~1k is actually sufficient numbers, but oops, yea randomness is a big deal for that qualifier.

https://twitter.com/rikkaroid/status/1645274393642438657?s=46&t=vAuMk6FVLkrJxgLS90A6gw
How is Rikka doing nowadays? I remember him being one of the first Holostar I heard of because of the meme with Mori and being rad Migo

>>47060901
>>47056116

>>47060715
Not applicable for populations as large as Japan, fuckwit. The margin for error basically means HL and Niji are around the same level.

>two gura bait thread on the catalog
let me guess another niji yab happen?

>>47059801
pokimane is only still relevant today because she sucked up to the leftist clique of hasan/ludwig/ludwigs wife who have the favor of the big wigs
look at kaceytron as an example of what happens when you fall off in popularity without the clique backing you, even if you do go full leftist shill

>>47061090
yeah check drama anchor

>>47060387
Well, all of Tempus is better than Average at least.

>>47059505
Hiccupnemo person is famous pixar movies. Pomu seems the most likely for this or is their other big disney/pixar fans