/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

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>>47023446
AND YOU COULD HAVE IT ALL
MY EMPIRE OF DIRT

>>47023446
Not gonna lie this made me a bit sad
Imagine all her regrets...

>>47024375
NO ONE WINS NO ONE WINS NO ONE WINS NO ONE WINS NO ONE WINS NO ONE WINS NO ONE WINS NO ONE WINS NO ONE WINS NO ONE WINS NO ONE WINS NO ONE WINS NO ONE WINS NO ONE WINS NO ONE WINS NO ONE WINS NO ONE WINS NO ONE WINS NO ONE WINS NO ONE WINS NO ONE WINS NO ONE WINS NO ONE WINS NO ONE WINS

I understand, Hana, and I'm not happy about this either, but you brought it on yourself girl.

Her dream of getting 3D with her gen mates...

>>47024879
BWAHAHAHAHA

>>47024879
Lol

>>47023446
And why are you not joining?

>>47023446
Well well well
If it isn't the consequences of your own faults, Hana.

>>47024879

>>47024519
stop spamming this image faggot

>>47023446
Riku... My 3d...

>>47023446
Better luck not joining a black company next time

>>47023446
All of this are your fault Hana. Stop pretending to be sad

Wait what did she do?

>>47026920
Bunch of her fellow ID members graduated >>47021638

>>47026920
tldr
hana was doing the best of her wave and was offered a 3d model. she turned it down because she wanted to debut a 3d model with her wavemates. /vt/ thinks this is somehow the greatest fuck up in history and mocks her for it. now her wavemates are graduating and she'll never have that chance again.

May the E-whore continue to take Ls.

>>47027264
I mean, she proved them right since it's never happening now.

>>47027264
Not really that but yes. She reject the clout from being acknowledge by mick gordon, being called EN 0 because she is one of the first EN in major agency, and more

>>47026342
RIP in tears, bozo

>>47026920
>>47027264
Not only that, but she's been put basically at the back of the line, since ID and KR got put on the JP waitlist to have a 3D debut, even if they were farther up the waitlist before. Nobody in KR or ID are anywhere near getting a 3D debut except Hana and maybe Ban Hada (KRfags can feel free to fact check me there). Now everyone else in her wave is graduating, so not only was her goodwill completely wasted, she STILL has to wait forever to get her 3D, which she may not even want anymore.
Armchair Numberfags think that Hana should've boosted NijiID with a 3D debut because it would've happened in the era where the only other EN-speaking corpo vtubers were in fucking MyHolo and Tsunderia. While this argument has merit, these people forget: This is Nijisanji, where there are no right moves, just the moves where you lose less in the long run. Hana made a decent choice at the time and had no way of knowing that the pandemic and the branch merger would happen, or that the other two would graduate before any of it could blow over.

>>47027264
I mean, putting this as nicely as possible for a decision that was ultimately well-intentioned, but wouldn't a 3D debut and allowing herself to get actually BIG have led to a boon for the branch and benefit the views of everyone else in it? See the clout shark, the kiwifarms rabbit, the turd-eater, and most recently the idolEN tranny.

Hana is mentally deranged before
will be more mentally deranged now

the only solution is more cock for her

>>47027264
basically she rejected all the clout for being a lite EN, blessed by mick gordon, dad buff, and the fastest growing nijiID at that time.

>>47027754
It could've been big. It also could've killed Hana, because she was suffering depression+school projects already trying to kill her and her streaming time. People say Hana killed her own success by denying the dad stuff and the Mick Gordon bump, and that's partially true, but what really killed her was the 6~8 months where she did almost nothing but play PSO2 and blackjack zatsudans while clearly half-dead.
So yeah, it could've put spotlights on the branch. It also could've put the wrong spotlights on the branch, or been put off indefinitely anyway while Hana got other shit together.

>>47027931
>the only solution is more cock for her
yeah, mine

>>47027931
>https://twitter.com/HanaMacchia2
>see likes

cocks is her medicine for now

>>47028546
>Dick status :Muh

>>47027264
>/vt/ thinks this is somehow the greatest fuck up in history and mocks her for it
cuz it is. know how hololive became the global vtuber powerhouse? because a few specific members went viral and proceeded to capitalize on it. instead of climbing the ladder when offered to her and then helping her wavemates up after her she kicked the ladder down in a temper tantrum.
hana signed her branch's death when she knocked back her 3d and she frankly deserves all the shitposting she gets about it.

>>47023446
HANA YOU MADE THIS BED OF NAILS NOW ALL OF YOUR FRIENDS JAVE TO LIE IN IT
I HOPE BEING A CONTRARIAN BITCH WAS WORTH IT

>>47023446
is she the one who dreamed about cannur va?

The queen of self debuffs. Truly the strongest chuuba. Better than Mika the whore.

>>47027754
There’s actually a lot more examples in IRL music, idol, and entertainment agencies. Just one big talent can pay for a lot of shitters until another talent gets big.
>>47028276
>could’ve
Thats still an if. Hana could have grown as a person too.

>>47029013
Better to live and die on your own terms, I guess. A true American ideal, that.

>>47023446
she got a big chance and still choose the deadweight

>>47023446

>>47029134
>Thats still an if.
I'm not saying it wouldn't have been smart to try and pull ID up, but I feel like too many people on /vt/ are outsiders looking in with only hindsight to go on. I was watching her regularly at around that time. There's no fucking way she could've done a 3D debut without losing something else in the process. Maybe she comes out stronger, maybe she self-sabatoges again and ID fails anyway as a result. Maybe none of it matters and Niji merges everyone anyway, putting us back on track to where we are now.

If they leech EN like this whore did, none of this will ever happen
https://youtu.be/Jf-Oo9KayPQ
>>47029013
>Better than Mika the whore.
I know that you were baiting but many have argued that if she take Hana's spot as gen1 (or atleast had the same mentality as her) their demise would've been much MUCH slower.

black company

You can't say that Hana could've saved NijiID because it still might've failed even if she seized all her opportunities.

You can say that the only way things ever weren't going to end this way was if Hana took advantage of being the first EN vtuber.

>>47028990
(me) sorry it was here, I don't really diffrenciate between nijis let along ID

https://twitter.com/MikaMelatika/status/1458957895614099458

Kronii and Gura kinda have done the same thing. Not as dumb as rejecting 3D, but by not streaming more in Gura's case and not capitalizing on the initial boost and lying to fans in Kroniis, they have lost a lot of momentum when they could have brought in more fans some of which would trickle down to their gen.

>>47023446
who is the Hana Macchia(opposite) of Hololive? Is it Risu? She's hanging well.

>>47029923
Mumei and Fauna are now growing faster than Kronii and Mumei will have more subs than Kronii soon enough.

It hurt Council but they're starting to make up for it without Kronii.

>>47023446
What's this, Indo branch getting disbanded? Why, lack of money making?

>>47030019
moona ofc. moona capitalize her pekora saga extremely well. literally bringing new minecraft viewers to hololive with her grinding. And she is the least JP proficient in ID. i never like mooner persona and voice, but her hard work is easy to see.

>>47030088
The ID and KR branches were shut down and merged into the main branch months ago, they are just culling the ones who didn't get the hint of being treated as 3rd class vital organs aftee the merger and graduated

>>47027264
if she had done a 3d debut it would have helped her genmates.

>>47029923
What is with this incessant bringing up of Gura or even comparing with Holos? Every one of them gets thousands of viewers. Each and every one of them are already established and should be able to carry themselves.

>>47028546
Well she does say her likes are mostly 18+

>>47030313
Hell yeah, that's my oshi

>>47028546
Hana to proceed that ntr manga moment

>>47027264
A rising tide raises all boats. Do you think someone like Kiara would have reached 1m subs if she wasn't in the same gen as Gura? Also thanks to Kobo, Zeta's been able to pass Fauna now despite having way lower viewership and could potentially even pass Kronii if she continues to flounder and waste her potential with all these indie games and homo collabs.

>>47023446
Serious question - can Yagoo save her? HoloID4?

>>47031472
anon, she want to save others, not to be saved

imagine Hana drowning but she want to save others too. its simply impossible to save Hana unless you go ultra menhera appeaser.

>>47030313
Nah he was also kinda right about Risu, she used to be top dog and still could have kept it up if she capitalized on clips of her singing going viral. Unfortunately tree rat likes to hardly ever do karaoke or at least will often just do acapelas, could have been like the Suisei of ID. Of course thankfully for ID, the PekoMoon arc started just as EOPs took notice of Hololive.

>>47031472
She has more friends in HoloID than she has in the entirety of Nijisanji at this point

>>47031472
Pretty sure Hana doesn't even want to do this forever or for too much longer and wants to join the normie world.

>>47028546
No, you really didn't

>>47031697
I misunderstood, it seems like she's not graduating herself? Then why specifically these 4 livers? I don't follow Nijis.

>>47030019
>>47030313
i think its risu? moona is more like zea but she took off

>>47025999
Her faults? Fill me in please

>>47031714
yes, risu also had that same vibe with Hana. Thing is, while Moon Arc are doing the heavy carry, Iofi and Risu is talented in their own way (Not to mention iofi - sora network). So it was very easy for them to ride the pekomoon arc.

now imagine Hana doing 3D, will it gives the same results?

Taka Radjiman?
Zea Cornelia (okay might works out for Zea)
Layla ?
Nara ?
Azura ?

>>47023446
Damn that's sad

>>47030997
It's a fact that having a star or several raises the whole gen. Gen 4 was made relevant solely through Coco's force of will, without her they've somewhat floundered.

>>47031857
Bad numbers presumably, Niji is by far the most numbers focused company and talents with good ones get preferential treatment while those with bad ones get told to fuck off. This goes double for non-jps

>>47032088
The comparison is utter shit. Hana was barely a 4view and her contemporaries were 2views. If she could raise them up, that would be very meaningful.
HoloEN are all 4views. They're all set forever and nobody is wanting for anything. And it's not the fucking Gura or Kronii show, and nobody wants to be perceived as being carried by them either. Do you even know what the hell you're saying?
Also what are you on about with Gen4? They're all 4views - 5views.

>>47032017
>Hana doing 3D, will it gives the same results?
maybe, but not much, few months after that the myth coming are too strong.. plus that e girl tweet..

>>47027144
>ZEA Cornelia
FUCK NO WHAT THE FUCK

>>47027754
Rin is not a tranny you son of a bitch, she is a cute girl

>>47032644
late chammers....

>>47023446
https://files.catbox.moe/mv0j7n.m4a

>>47032644
She deserved better tho. Nijizhangji treated her like a shit.

I don't think there are many other chuubas with worse decision making skills than Hana. Kekson and michael-cat can't be beat tho

>>47032899
Zaion, Pikamee

rip literal whozos

>>47032804

Don't care about Hana but RIP the walking sex of ID

o7

>>47032804
Hearing this always makes me sad.

>>47026342
Who are you again?

god, holobronies are such heartless creatures, it's almost like they were not human.

>>47028546
I can't help but get turned on from this

>>47032804
>gradually, I started to hate them

>>47023446
I actually feel bad for her now, I always felt like she deserved what happened to her but I now believe she's suffered enough

>>47027644
>Nobody in KR or ID are anywhere near getting a 3D debut except Hana and maybe Ban Hada
Hada's nowhere close to 100k, she's streamed very little over the 16 months and tanked any growth that she could have had. the last time I watched her stream she was barely above 200 viewers.
Nari, Suha and Seffyna are over 100k for former KR and Hana, Zea, Bobon, Taka, Siska and Mika for former ID.

>>47033631
she is a niji talent anon, fuck off if you know nothing about her

Why are some of you pushing the blame onto one goddamn talent and not the other talents or better yet, the fucking BLACK COMPANY that did all this

no sticky?

>>47024519
no one wins...

>>47035629
Are there vtubers that are blaming her or it's just people in the audience?

>>47035907
not enough people care, I guess

>>47035864
Gotta deflect somehow

>>47035864
>Why are some of you pushing the blame onto one goddamn talent
Simple anon, She blew up as their native english speaking star and she blew it. Refused her 3d as well. That is why people blame her. It doesn't make the black company innocent in this.

>>47023446
>sis leaves before risk
ngmi

>smol uwu e-thot vtubers leave
OMG WHO CARES lol

https://twitter.com/KamiiGOO/status/1645320344033693696

Hana...

>>47036622
I'm glad it really gets to her, the truth I mean.

>>47035629
did i just saw another hana alt account

>>47027144
>Siska
Oh what the fuck.

>>47026920
During the age before there were dedicated EN vtubers, the youtube algorithm somehow brought attention to Hana since she was also able to speak English and had the opportunity to shoulder the ID branch and raise their profile. She did not and instead proceeded to sabotage her numbers, as a result NijiID lost any real opportunity to grow with HoloID sucking up all the oxygen along with official EN vtubers debuting.

People blame Hana because if she just sucked it up and shouldered the burden of carrying her branch, NijiID would still be around.

Okay...

>nijisisters licking corporate boot cannot read
lol lmao

>>47033631
Many of us were fans of Hana, but we left her due to her poor decision making.

>>47036622
nijisanji

>>47031857
They're just the first to get fed up with being treated like 4th class members of the company

>Hana
>Mocca
>old EN veterans
>blessed by mainstream attention and early exposure
>uncontested GODS at self-boycotting
>always hot takes, always controversial yet right
>toying with tranny sensibilities
It would be funny if it weren't so tragic.

>>47036622
The last thing she should be doing is reading hate here holy fuck. I am not even invested in this situation but so she *may* have fumbled an opportunity to draw extra attention to her branch out of the urge to self sacrifice and not rise ahead of her peers. She doesn't deserve all the blame years on if none of them could make it work and niji didn't support them. I just feel bad for her and anyone who wants to keep kicking her when she is down is a bad person.

>>47033631
Dude, I like Hana for the most part but she's made some decisions that halted her momentum. Honestly I think she might've been the wrong person to try to thrust these types of responsibilities and hopes onto. Turns out that she's not the most outgoing or ambitious type and was far more comfortable away from the limelight, possibly too immature for it.
Still will hope for the best for Hana, but won't be too surprised if she hangs up this life and does something else.

>>47036748
I used to watch Hana a while back too, I mostly remember leaving because she started constantly playing phantasy star online 2 constantly... And when she got her new model that was basically Phantasy star looking It just felt like one of those "Ah... I guess she stopped trying to grow" moments.

>>47026808
this, her edgy hipster attitude fucked over the entire branch.

looooooool

>>47035907
Thread already too sticky

>>47037045
After years watching vtubers and being burned countless times I can honestly say in most cases she was right.

>>47035864
Way back then blaming hana makes sense, later on its the talents fault they are stuck in 2view hell
I remember stupid things like azura being mean bitch girl not in a banter way to selen just before her debut, yeah lets make the ones that would be 4views IN THE SAME COMPANY to ghosts you what a 250 iq move
Then once their numbers getting worse they don't really try to reach out because muh indo pride and their indo viewers encourages it while also going walled garden /jp/ nijinigger style, i expected some nijiID graduations arround february doesn't look like i missed the mark too far kek

>>47037131
It was different in 2020. The fact that history has proven her right is just another proof vtubing is too mainstream now. If it wasn't that way maybe things would've been different for her and her genmates too.

>>47037131
Of course she was right, women don't stop being whores because they have anime avatar. It was still retarded to say.

Hana and her dad was the pekomoon of niijisanji but no, we retarded fans just have to gatekeep that relationship. for what? now nijiid is on the brink of disbanding

holy shit I din't know that was a literal batsignal for nyfco

I got into vtubers through Hana, and while it's sad that she sabotaged her own growth, I don't think it's in any way fair to blame her for the failure of the rest of the branch. Let's face it, none of them were ever all that good. A couple were okay but when there are dozens of indie EN vtubers who are just as good or better, "okay" doesn't cut it. This isn't 2019.

>>47037371
What do you mean

>>47037412
This. Hana was my first exposure to Nijisanji at all back in early 2020 and I honestly tried watching her genmates but they just didn't interest me so in the end I only watched Hana. It's because of her I even gave other IDs (both niji and holo) any chance at all. It's not her fault she was simply more bearable and it's especially not her job to carry the entire branch on her back.

>>47037445
ya'll crazy and it shows

>>47032804
fuck

>>47035629
It seems like its not Hana.
Completely different drawing style and mutuals.

>>47037333
Also women know women the best

>>47037728
Oh it's her believe me.

>>47032007
Dudes mad about her tweet about vtubers and ethots. Also fans of her "dad" who stopped appearing.

Didn't she literally destroy her own career while Bonbon and Mika saved themselves by leeching off EN?

>>47031714
Still remember that time early in the PekoMoona arc where it seemed like Pekora was about to interact with Risu on MC and then Moona logged in. The few Risufags in /jp/ were pissed.

>>47037333
This. Its like if fast food places told their customers how unhealthy and shit their food was when they were trying to order. Its true but its still a dumbass move.

>>47032007
>in ancient times in 2019 she was one of a dozen english speaking vtubers on youtube
>blew up to 3k ccv when there was no nijiEN/after NijiIN died
>deliberately destroyed her own channel with communist propaganda to own the chuds because she didn't like being a superstar
>this caused nijiid as a whole to slowly bleed out
>every time she tried to revive it she would then get imposter syndrome or self-doubt and cripple herself again
>nijiid is dead forever now, probably because of her
The last 4 years were a waste of her time she will never get back, ever, and it was her fault and it will haunt her forever.

There's a timeline where Hana Macchia collabs with Gawr Gura as the top english speaker vtubers. But this is not that timeline.

>>47027264
Jesus Christ, I don't even watch Niji but I feel terrible for her. That fucking sucks.

>>47037769
>Raiju and audiotopia are the first followers
>Period on March 30th
Its Hana believe me

>>47027264
>/vt/ thinks this is somehow the greatest fuck up in history
I assume most of /vt/ think her tweet was the greatest fuck up not rejecting the 3D debut but maybe most of /vt/ weren't around in /jp/ when that was made.

>>47027264
Don't whitewash her retard. There's plenty of reasons she's disliked.

>>47027644
Suha fer sure should get a 3D. Been there since Gen 1 KR and is still there.

>>47037728
I don't know anon. 95% it is Hana.She is followed by Risu(Tako_YK), Merry and RaijuNara( Mika's mama). She also doodles. But I think what gave it away is the last tweet.

>>47037308
It's still not mainstream, though. It's true that western e-girls have definitely infested it and turned what was mostly innocent into a "get rich quick" scam.
Girls that would otherwise NEVER be entertaining or interesting to listen to have poisoned the well and they get away with it because cute anime avatar.
Hana at the time was wrong. But what she said aged too well. Now there really is no difference

>>47029721
The thing is if she seized all her opportunities and still failed she can at least say she tried her best and went down swinging. Instead now she will forever be wracked by what ifs and if onlys, on top of possibly losing her 3d altogether

>>47030997
Nijiniggers need to deflect please understand

>>47038031
Hololive content back then was kinda different compared to now as well.

>>47038024
Such as?

>>47038029
>knows about people blaming her
is she /here/?

>>47038063
She could've maybe been a Pikamee-level vtuber though. Thats another one of the old EN-speaking vtubers pre-HoloEN. RIP.

>>47038031
>muh western boogeyman
yeah, it's definitely SEA hours

>>47038104
Hana is /here/ all the time

>>47037840
You exaggerate and overdramatize things. A random menhera meltdown is just a thing that happens with vtubers, an occupational hazard if you will. Hana's was just quieter than most, so it left many people scratching their heads.

>>47035629
I am completely confused. Is Hana a good chuba or not?

>>47037333
>It was still retarded to say
Based, it was based to say. Just like picrel. I can respect anyone who warns people off taking these womens schtick too seriously at the cost of their own income/success.

>>47038029
Period on March 30th (same as Mika). Risu collabed multiple times with Mika.
First followers are Raijuu(her mama) and audiotopia(her music producer) then Geega and iPN(Mika friends)
>Its Hana Macchia trust me

China doesn't care about ID

>>47037782
If the only way to survive is by leeching then is that even a life worth living?

>>47037840

>>47023446
Do you think she gets satisfaction seeing the EN also on fire?

>>47038104
All Niji livers are /here/

>>47038367
What happened this time?

>>47038244
so Mika thinks people are blaming her for being an EN leech, a LUXIEM whore and for abandoning her branch??

>>47038307
Yes because that's how being an entertainer works. If you're too embarrassed to collab with someone bigger than you you're not in the right line of work

>>47038384
Think you meant NijiEN
No way Mito read about me wanting to give her 5 children

>>47038104
This isn't the only place that lambasts her for her retarded decisions

>>47038289
Man, I want to lick Ririmu belly clean

>>47038405
Probably yes. Some people hated her in the past because she didn't collab with her genmates/nijiID folks.

>>47038517
Most Mika antis are Luxiem sisters. You should have seen Mysta's comments page on a certain site when this shit was at its worst.

>>47038244
I can vouch. Cummed inside Mika after her period. She just can't be pregnant now because Riku will fire her is she becomes one.

>>47038406
Correct. See lesser known groups doing an opening act for more popular ones. It's normal.

>>47023446
Explain your incantations to me SEA bros.

>>47038128
I live on the opposite side of the planet as SEA, but feel free to keep projecting. Won't make me any less correct.

>>47038307
People who succeed are the ones who 'want it more', people who fail are retards who fall for spooks like "ummm but it's not honorable to cheat to win" and then the cheaters beat them and put them in jail.

>>47035907
Not Hololive, NijiEN, or an old guard. Basically irrelevant

>>47038406
you'll just be called a "leech" in /vt/ if you do.

>>47038031
>boring girl is interesting because of the avatar
This is fine. She spends all her time playing her vidya and talking about food for anyone who's willing to listen. Harmless.
>opportunistic ethot hides behind anime anonymity to get away from being judged for it
This is not. She brings her "hot takes" where they're not needed and gets away with it because she's an anime girl. Poisonous.

>>47038308
Pippa unironically takes prescription medications.

>>47036622
Is that her roomate? I dunno how you dig these literal who's up, just look at her following

>>47038809
Pippa isn't very selfware and i don't think we should even talk about her in this thread
I am kinda tired of nijisanjis bullshit and they keep making it worse

>>47035907
Actual answer? Meidos see that there isn't much shitposting.

>>47038809
As opposed to taking it ironically? That's a thing, isn't it?

why is she sad? she is just an e-girl, nothing was lost here, her colleagues can e-girl somewhere else right?

>>47038804
If you let what /vt/ will say about you prevent you from grasping success you're in the wrong line of work

>>47033631
Nijiniggers are the ones who are celebrating losing "deadweights" though.

>>47038805
I don't care much about the girl being boring. They can't all be Pekora or Korone. It's why I like Fauna because while she isn't the most charismatic, she can still be entertaining and doesn't bring in unnecessary shit or get into drama. The worst she's ever said is that she doesn't like you if you don't like Gura.
Then pick whatever run-of-the-mill vtuber on twitch (NijiEN nowadays) and you get all sorts of garbage toxicity or absolutely no entertainment value whatsoever.

>>47038887
When you're young, losing the people you've known and grown close to for a year can make it seem like you'll never see them again and it's all over. Of course in most cases, you will never see them again and it's all over. Life is, unfortunately, about being alone and occasionally making temporary connections with other people.

Speaking of Hana HE is still active on HIS super secret youtube account and twitter

>>47038095
fucking newfag holy.

>>47039025
Yes. I don't watch IDs.

>>47038880
>I don't believe I have schizophrenia, my girlfriend told me so but she's on vacation, I only took the meds IRONICALLY to prove that I don't, me and my girlfriend will play videogames when she gets back

>>47038862
>wactor
>production kawaii
>groomer project
>jewish poacher company
>anycolor but they're all black
Weird how hololive rises to the top of the EN pile merely by not doing absolutely heinous shit for no reason. If only EN3, they'd never lose.

reminder that these are the people who treat vtubing as a hobby then piss and shit themselves when viewers and the company treat them like part-timers

>>47023446
>that happens when you go full chud/unikek

Never listen to the crazies.

>>47039138
The jewish poaching thing just turned out to be an ESL moment with wrong timing
He was just hinting again that he's rdy to hire more people like Riro

>>47039021
Ah I completely forgot that Hana is a troon now

>>47039293
>we are open to recruiting vtubers with 20,000 subs
>four members of kawaii, 3 with 20,000+ subs, graduate not long after
When those girls magically join Idol you are going to have the infinite schizo war between kawaii and jidf.

>>47039328
God it would be so cool with real corpo wars, I fucking hate that everyone is pretending to be nice to everyone else

>>47029013
>>47029138
As easy as it is to clown on her wasted potential, call her an e-thot, and hate her "educate yourself moments she's one of the few cases where it feels like it all came from a place of honesty. Misplaced honesty that doesn't work in the entertainment industry but part of me at least wants to respect it. Then again I never watched her so I don't know what she's potentially been a lying whore about

>>47032804
Hana...

>>47039371
Why are nijiniggers like this

>>47023446
>rile up everyone against management to pull a mass graduation
>don't graduate with them
Hana is a fucking snake

>>47039605
fans reflect the streamers

>>47039542
She also wants to be a dude now just so you know

>>47023446
But she asked for it

>>47039605
Chinese people are too afraid to fight their leaders, so they desire blood elsewhere. It's why the USA is always fucking around in places like Taiwan and Ukraine. China, Russia and America are tyrannical states with restive populations so they send them off on military adventures while they watch vtubers.

>>47032804
Hana...

She might not have made the best decisions in her career but at the end of the day she's just a human. It's not quite her fault the company she works for would rather cut the dead weight the moment it'd become difficult to save it rather than actually try to elevate them somehow

>>47039722
>women are confused why societies for thousands of years kept them in check

hana was right

>>47038128
Stay mad amerimutt. You have to be in denial to refuse to admit that the flood of garbage, coombait vtubers isn't coming mostly from America and it's specifically people from your country who are ruining the scene

>>47039835
>the company
The company isn't forcing anyone to leave, just look at ZEA announcing now that she'll have a fixed schedule until graduation, wow great fucking job but you're a year late to start caring, between the debuff games, infrequent streams and constant breaks they have no one but themselves to blame

>>47039328
He saw that happen and then made a twitter post
Before the twitter post i also thought it was possible, but now? Nah not happening

>>47036841
Not a black company btw

>>47039944
Coombait "western" vtubers such as Millie Parfait lol.

>>47039371
>real corpo wars

Hana has been terminated.
https://twitter.com/NIJISANJI_ID/status/1645372586594017281

>>47036622
>creates problems that ruin other people's lives
>WOW YOU'RE BEING SO MEAN TO ME :( *passive aggressive pretending like she sympathizes but not really since she deftly avoided any real consequences while everyone else got fucked*
Didn't care much before, but this is literally the worst kind of personality type.

>>47039625
>streamers across various companies are friends and interact with each other, for example: Kiara and Pomu
>people /here/ start screeching shit like "ALL OUT WAR LOL" whenever this happens
>the companies are business competitors and didn't even allow them to collab until recently
anon, out of everyone involved, the streamers themselves are the *least* tribal-minded ones

>>47040393

>>47040346
Thinking anyone will fall for that.
No even worth a click.

>>47040346
>Not Towa baby
0/10 anon, 0/10

>>47040414
yes I know where the phrase is from

>siska graduating
Wtff I thought she's doing alright??

>>47040393
>anon, out of everyone involved, the streamers themselves are the *least* tribal-minded ones

>>47032804
Like listening to someone realizing the dream is dead. That's rough.

Are 3D models that expensive that Hana is still being denied one for such a long time for a company like Anycolor? Surely they're not THAT expensive, right?

>>47040646
>like
No, you WERE listening to someone realizing the dream is dead.

My hope for niji are long gone after they make the branch closing decision.

>>47039021
>>47039320
qrd?

>>47040646
Could be worse. Could be https://streamable.com/9538nw

>>47040628
Hana convinced her clique to leave then pulled a fast one and stayed

>>47039981
I liked the "debuff games". If I wanted yet another APEX streamer, I'd have a million other choices and never have watched her.

>>47039371
true underage /v/ sentiment

>>47040664
Hana literally used hers already, she was the one who cancelled the debut twice because she was butthurt with the company since they didn't approved some request she had

>>47040877
watch as this rrat gets repeated enough for it to sound real

>>47040921
Thanks for being one of the 30 watching the streams, but I guess they didn't wanted to be 2viewers while not doing anything to grow

>>47039835
lmao it is all on her and them you dumbfuck

>>47040872
what's the context for this one?

>>47040934
Hana is literally the only one of the group who's not graduating, what's the plan here? Have her 3D debut and then leave? She was full on with everyone in member streams talking about being disappointed and doing some graduation baiting

>>47032804

>>47040664
Its not the 3D cost, its because Anycolor is not willing to pay for her flight, stay and return, which would cost a lot for an ID to pay for themselves.

>>47040872
is this the Gura clone?

>>47040872
That's sad but this happens every day. We just have no way to know because nobody watches them.

Hana if you're here like this image >>47040346

>>47041088
A quick scroll through her Youtube account tells me this 3D reveal didn't happen. What's the context behind this image?

>>47036622
I can save her

>>47041215
https://youtu.be/urZRQFsLHEE?t=212
The actual announcement screenshot at Nijifes 2022

>>47041215
The debut was scheduled but she cancelled, I don't remember if she gave a reason for the first time, but apparently it was scheduled again and she cancelled again and acted butthurt about some request being denied

1 set bbq

>>47041345
So she did in fact sabotage her own career... that's just sad. She must've felt like shit when she realized her unorthodox attempt at elevating her friends ended up in having the entire branch scrubbed and leaving her in a limbo. Stupid little coffee nug

>>47040872
This is unfortunately the fate of many, many people. It sucks, but there isn't really anything that can be done when there are thousands upon thousands of other streamers as competition.

>>47041481
This is what she gets for having faith and trusting anything. Why the fuck would things get better when they can get worse?

>>47040860
what you seek is in >>42838083
One of the youtube links leads to a vtuber that sounds like a girl but has the pronouns he/him. It is also the thread where they discuss Hanas meltdown

>>47041559
Faith in what? Random viral success?
Go check the ID streams from right after the merge, everyone was talking about consistency, setting a main language and sticking to it, learning japanese, then not even a month later everyone dropped the effort and start taking breaks all the time
I know there's an ID audience because Kobo somehow got them, but they had 3 years and failed to do that, while at the same time rejecting the EN and JP audiences

>>47041345
she was bed ridden the first time, the second time we have no clue why it was canceled, seemly something on the company's end since not even she was forthcoming of why.

>>47041719
>Faith in what?
The company not dropping them like hot potatoes because of muh numbers.

>>47040346
She is going to die of alcohol poisoning

>>47041842
They didn't drop them, they merged them into the main branch. They could've used this as an opportunity to learn Japanese and interact with NijiJP and incline like some of the Koreans did, like for example this girl who used to be a low 3view and now gets better numbers than most NijiEN girls after the merge.

>>47027754
>>47032710
Really? Was gonna check and see what the fuss is about but if that's a man fuck it

Am I too white to understand whats going on in here?

>>47042780
I guess, unless you're some white nationalist, ID pride killed the branch

>>47032710
>He doesn't know
If you lived in Australia or the UK you'd understand.

>>47039722
Source for this?

>>47043144
42845305

>>47043144
LITERALLY LINKED IN THE THREAD RETARD >>47041704

Who will be the last ex-ID standing?

>>47039722
and this matters because...?

>>47038029
Holy fuck anon. did you just unironically expose a holo's rm? jannies wouldn't be happy for sure.

>>47043492
Just another sign of mental illness.

>>47026920
iirc>>47027264 is wrong, that wasn't her original sin, it was just the last hail mary. Her original sin is she rejected being an early in for EOP viewers and deliberately filtered them massively (this is pre Coco). She also said straight up and in an insulting manner that Vtubers and e-thots are the same which filtered vtuber fans. She basically denied her own rise and the possibility of the branch rising with it. That is her original sin.

>>47043755
>She also said straight up and in an insulting manner that Vtubers and e-thots are the same which filtered vtuber fans.
She's literally and inarguably correct though

I was wondering why Hana and NijiID was trending. Can't say I was surprised. Based on Ninjisanji's track record, this outcome was inevitable. In hindsight, she should've taken the 3D offer.

>>47043755
The pso2 arc…

>>47043755
>>47044110
I wasn't following Hana closely after Lazulight debuted, but I remember her becoming much less entertaining at some point. Her voice changed too.

>boohoo she said your oshi is a e-thot with anime avatar
lol I'm going to make it

>>47043904
She isn't, but even if she was, I'm sure being correct is such a comfort to her right now. She can take comfort in that while watching the graduation of the rest of her genmates. At least she was correct and filtered all the haters from her streams.

>>47043336
unironically Hana, she'll push everyone to leave but it's too much of a coward to follow, she'll just stay and be miserable forever

>>47044498
Gatekeeping is such a wonderful thing when you're on a corporate payroll!

>>47044524
She already has an account she streams on more than her niji one so I can see her leaving next contract term

>>47038220
>>47038308
>brought up leftist politics
>brought up the e girl stuff
>stopped streaming in english
>rrats her dad was actually her bf
>stopped having her dad on
it wasn't the only thing but yes she was quite literally one of the biggest en speaking jp vtubers at the time, her clips averaged 100k-300k in 2019 dude
she purposely stopped her momentum

>>47044693
counterpoint: selen and fucking ike out of everyone was able to peer pressure her into losing
tl;dr she is a bigger doormat than finana

>>47044524
What about Mika?

>>47044498
>women who become minor internet celebrities doing pointless shit like playing video games and singing, mostly popular with lonely young men who donate to them for nothing in return, who are mostly former literal NND ethots
Spare me the cope

>>47044693
I keep seeing people say she brought up lefty stuff but what exactly was it

>>47044952
>every single streamer is a ethot
nahone

what's the big deal? Anyolor shitcans chuubas at least once a month. They'll just shit out another bunch shortly.

>>47044952
>pekora
>marine
who else?

>>47044946
Mika's not retarded, she's not leaving any time soon no matter how upset she is with Kurosanji

>>47045154
I'm hoping for a day they accidentally hire somebody they fired already.

>>47045110
in the w*st, maybe. japan is different.

>>47045091
It was her dad telling Americans to join dsa

>>47045340
sheesh

>>47043530
they wouldn't know.

>>47037840
>own the incels!
Same old same old

>>47044952
2020 NND utaites and 2023 twitch crowd are hardly the same thing.

>>47045583
>ethots
>ethots, japan

>>47045659
>live sex
>just cleavage
FIRE AND BRIMSTONE AAAAGH

>>47045659
Much better than thots from LA. It makes no sense the east coast has a monopoly over American media.

>>47045659
It literally is that though, Japanese ethottery is completely different than having a roastie american white woman try to coombait some retards at every opportunity. I think the degeneracy and the absolute lack of talent of american twitch vtubers peaked with this video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7YvsJrCUlY

>>47037333
>>47037833
>>47038242
the whole point is we know its not real but by the nature of vtubing they commit to the act and let us believe it is, that is literally the product they are selling
of course western twitch whoretubers destroyed that by attention whoring worse than regular twitch whores, its like in the wrestling comparison the difference between the attitude era when people pretended it was real and now where it's just a circlejerk of talents who are marks themselves jacking themselves off onto fat gay comic book nerds

I want to sex siska before she leaves

>>47045659
>ethot, Japan
>abandons her former line of work and becomes an idol entertainer, doesn't bring with her anything associated with NND scene aside from old friends who similarly start over
>ethot, West
>drags all the filth associated with being an ethot into virtual world because it's her whole identity

>>47023446
>acting like she didn’t know already

>>47046039
Simple as
>Japan
>watchable
>West
>Unwatchable
I can't watch the twitch clique. It's the very medium I'm running away from.

>>47045932
Easily one of the most sex in niji

>>47046039
Thank god we have no thot-adjacent activities in an agency lovingly known as erolive. Only pure seiso idols.

>>47046289
>thot-adjacent activities
Like what?

>>47023446
oh nyo :3

>>47046645
Prancing around in bikinis and posing like gravure idols and talking about porn come to mind immediately. Marine pulling stripper moves on stage also.

>>47044946
Mika will be surely drafted to EN

>>47039944
That’s Japan and their AV scene you freak

>>47046871
She don't have to, she's already part of the main branch, I don't think upper management will move people to en since it would disrupt the group based debuts they have going on

>>47039059
I also don't watch ID, but IIRC she is not unicorn friendly

>>47046871
Would Mika incline if she redebuted in an EN wave?

>>47046890
That is disgusting. I will never forgive women.

Imagine anyone thinking Jap woman aren’t the most vile and easily manipulated people in the world. Look up guso milk or any HC shit from the 90’s. Yeah jap woman are totally saint compared to the horrible whities RUMAO

>>47047408
Shut it you ESL

>>47047449
You don’t like the reality that is most Japanese woman are complete whores, most of em did paid dating, AV, gravure and hostess work.

Poor weeb

>>47047449
>Poor weeb

Don't you have some Reddit threads to post on? Are you aware on what imageboard you're currently posting?

>>47047449
>On October 26, 2015, the United Nations Human Rights Council's Special Rapporteur on the sale of children, child prostitution and child pornography announced that 30% of Japanese minors are involved in enjo-kōsai.

where is siska going to end up

>>47047958
Most here a otaku dear Twittard, weeb are one completely denouncing their own culture for Japanese culture. A little knowledge goes a long way

>>47046766
No constant he-said she-said drama, no politics, no "hot takes" for cheap fame, no begging for money, no "accidental" slipups to squeeze more out of customers? Just tame gravure idol shit and some otaku fanservice? I think the most e-thot behavior I've seen in Hololive was coming from Matsuri who couldn't stop clipbaiting with mild insider info.

>>47046766
Marine works in hololive for the same reason Coco did. It's juxtaposed against the rest of the company, remove her and put her in a company where ALL the girls are ethots and it wouldnt work as well

>>47029134
>Just one big talent can pay for a lot of shitters until another talent gets big.
Retard
Solo work is solo work, if the shitters aren't bringing anything to the table then they are just making loses to what the top star is earning.
Tell me you are not a twittertard who takes seriously those "X is hard carrying the entire company".

>>47048400
I would make sport analogy, but it seems like you might be too retarded to understand

>>47048465
>Just put all your eggs in one basket xddddd
He might be clinically retarded

>>47048199
For the love of God spend some time you waste on shitposting on /vt/ on learning English. Please.

>>47048667
Funny how this is the only board where the quality of English is taken into consideration. Might be because that’s your only cope and comeback.
Poor retards alas.

>>47048667
>jumbled mess
Oh my, the irony.

>>47040872
Fuck you, she's fine now, Rindou has been noticed and she had a lot of fun with her rindorks. she's only taking a hiatus and has asked her fans to wait for her return.

>>47048912
>her fans
You mean pedo ready to groom an actual underage girl. Never change

>>47048766
>>47048838
all me

>>47048058
What qualifies as a minor?

>>47049129
Are you stupid?

>>47023446
>>47037359
>>47044693
Her "dad" said he was a big fan of Super Best Friends Play. There is no way he is older than 40, which means he is either her boyfriend or he had Hana when he was between the ages of 12-16.

>>47049219
They broke up that's probably why he stopped appearing on her channel.

>>47049194
No, but you probably are.

>>47049504
>no u
Okay pedo rumao