/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

I thought she has cancer or something.

>>47018025
Greatest grift ever ginned up.

>>47017958
Okay bet

>>47017958
She will spend the greatest percentage of her life as a vtuber, you mean.

>>47017958
>ironmouse
>outlive

>>47018025
She has CVID(not to be confused with covid)
tl;dr she has a really weak immune system and has to get monthly plasma infusions. Plasma infusions makes it so she can function in a controlled environment(mainly only her home) and eat some normal foods(when her health is not good, she has to drink liquid meal replacements which she drank for years until she blew up as a vtuber). She also mostly bed ridden and streams while laying in bed.
But yeah. Her life is no bueno despite how much success she has on Twitch.

considering the average vtuber lifespan is like 2-4 years, yeah probably

>>47017958
She's chronically not terminally ill.

>>47019416
People like you are the reason antis think she's a bubblegirl that is literally on her death bed.
She doesn't need to live in a controlled environment, she's been going outside lately to visit her specialist doctors. She also doesn't live off of liquid food she ate fucking shrimp of all things today.

>>47020199
>i didn't read the post

>>47019416
CVIDeez nuts lmao

>>47020199
>She doesn't need to live in a controlled environment, she's been going outside lately to visit her specialist doctors.
Wow, she lives the house to *check notes* visit a doctor, sounds like a normal life

>>47021524
people on this board would have you thinking she never leaves her bedroom and any outside contaminants would literally kill her

>>47017958
oops wrong pic

She has the first en vtuber title but will she get the last vtuber title?

>>47020199
Yeah, she ate shrimp and wasn’t ready for it, that’s why she didn’t stream today

>>47020199
This nigga can't read lol

>>47017958
The Magic Johnson of chuubas.

>>47023115
>She has the first en vtuber title
wait, she's the first en vtuber ever? like i know she goes way back but damn

>>47026681
She's not. She wasn't a vtuber until 2020. If we use these retarded standards then Kizuna AI wasn't the first vtuber but any of the people that later started calling themselves vtubers.

>>47028711
she was a vtuber in a different platform since 2017 dumbass

>>47029033
She wasn't.

>>47017958
Already started vtubing before 99% of chuubas in the first place, I kneel

>>47017958
No she will not.

what did the doctor mean by this?

>>47029069
>>47028711
https://twitter.com/ironmouse/status/1555330540391243776
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0Id9nfar_g

>>47032315
Who was the first vtuber?

>>47032315
> Using fucking Vtuber wikia as "source".
Also, hard to call a streamer using free to use Kiritan facerig model a "Vtuber". I don't see anybody calling some randos from Russia or France and their cat facerigs "first Vtubers".

>>47033282
>She doesn't count because.....she just doesn't okay?

>>47033922
Who was the first vtuber?

>>47033978
Kizuna Ai? I don't understand what she has to do with this though, she was JP and Mouse is EN.

>>47034256
Nekomasu used a live2D model in 2015 so Kizuna AI is not the first vtuber.

>>47033978
annoying orange

>>47034423
Ami Yamoto used a 3D model in 2011

>>47033282
seethe

>>47031320
>vtubing

>>47037330
>streams using a 2d anime avatar
>calls herself a vtuber
>hurrrrr she isn't a vtuber because...... she just isn't OK?????

>>47037393
she didn't call herself a vtuber in 2017

>>47017958
shes very very sick btw please believe me

>>47019416
she gets plasma weekly btw, apparently her body is extra shit and the antibodies don't last as long.

>>47028711
wat, Mouse started in 2017?

>>47029069
yes she was?

>>47037695
>source: I made it up just now

Can't get rid of Satan that easily

I doubt Iron Lung can outlive anything with her disease and Connor doing her everyday.

>>47038375
>Connor
theyre not even in the same country dumbass

>>47038427
they will be soon she's preparing a room in her new house specifically for him

>>47038475
lay off the peyote dude

>>47037790
she started streaming before soda

>>47038475
I would not touch that sick rat If I was Connor lmao, just be friend is already enough

>>47038603
https://youtu.be/gzdnogoT7pc

>>47031320
Based mouse

>>47037845
She wasn't a vtuber.

>>47017958
how's her daughter doing?

>>47017958
Like the cucaracha she is

>>47039341
Yes she was anon
A simple google search will show you

>>47039763
No she wasn't.

>>47019416
This anon is one of the reasons why whores always get away with this sick shit. Preying on retards like this. Kys immediately

>>47017958
>think her fake illness getting exposed will be the final yab
>it happens
>no one cares
>99% of her viewers never learn

>>47040261
Nah dude that would be fucking huge if she was lying

>>47017958
She's faking it

Ironmouse is only as big as she is because sje hopped on the ewhore vtuber trend early. Her personality and streams are the most boring uninspired ones I've ever seen, and her voice is impossible to listen to. Many other indies deserve to have the clout she and the other talentless whores have in vshojo, but again, they only have it because they were "early" and not because any of them are actually any good.

SEAfags being SEAfags
clippers seething because she called them out and holofags and nijiniggers biting on the bait like retards.
Pathetic.

>>47017958
Imagine forcing your mother to take care of and raise your child while you fuck around online pretending to be an anime cunt instead of being taking care of it yourself.
>but muh illnesssssss ;_____;
Don't care. Shouldn't have had sex in the first place if you knew you weren't willing to look after that child. And shouldn't have left your husband afterwards and take the child away either.
>b-but weeeh muh abuse he was being ABUSIVE to me ;___;
Don't care. Don't believe you. It's so easy for a woman to just get tired of a man and then leave while refusing to take responsibility for being a cunt who just left because she lost interest so she has to claim it was due to some type of "abuse"

Mouse getting CVID is basically karma's way of fucking her over for being a dumb cunt and doing what she did. Regardless of how she ends up in the end, it'll be a good riddance.

>>47017958
>tfw my oshi's body is slowly killing itself and no amount of donos can save her because all the doctors are incompetent hacks
I'm glad mousey got out of that hell. I wish my oshi did too.

>>47017958
she's losing her spot at the top in the next few months

>>47021524
she met with connor and hang out with the trash taste crew.

>>47040894
Almost everything in this post is quintessential
>source: i made it the fuck up

She has a CHILD??

>>47041191
>>47041260
>he doesn't know
LMAO
https://litter.catbox.moe/4us11f.mp4

>>47040894
This mindset couldn't possibly be due to tribalism

>>47041027
who could've seen that doing an irl po box unboxing in a famous streamer's house would yield a high ccv count if compared to the video game stream on twitch. crazy right?

>>47040653
T, seething indiecuck

>>47041189
No she hasn't, the only time she's left her house since COVID started was to go to a doctor's appointment

>>47041260
How dare she

>>47041563
I dunno they have been boring since they just stopped collabing with each other

>>47041260
milf ironmouse domming sexually unaware younger vtubers........

>>47041438
>4:29
Hot

>>47041649
I'm not judging her or anything, I'm just surprised

>>47041767
Yeah her jank ass vocal cords have really helped extend her kawaiiability

>>47041438
Anon, everyone knows about the daughter at this point, i was talking about the rest of the comment.

>>47028711
>>47029069
>>47039341
>>47039939
Damn, unapologetic copium huffing, not even trying to hide it

>>47041936
Yes, all of that other stuff is talked about the in rest of her full "interview" or whatever that video is which spans up to like 2 hours or so.

Cutesy fake anime voice streamer with an anime avatar milks her sickness and is called brave for watching youtube videos and sleeping on stream. Parasocial losers donate to 'help' her.

It’s sad how the world keeps supporting talentless people who contribute absolutely nothing to society

At least if she had some type of practical / creative talent like drawing stuff... But she's nothing.

>>47042068
Who's huffing copium when she literally was not a vtuber in 2017?

>>47042206
Going to give reasons or not?

>>47042206
She literally was though, I don't know why you keep insisting she wasn't when she was

>>47042246
She didn't say she was a vtuber in 2017. If she was, then so was anyone else using facerig.

>>47042191
>At least if she had some type of practical / creative talent like drawing stuff...
Or singing...

>>47042191
she draws
she just doesn't show it much on her social media or stream cause the style isn't really for the normal person.
I say that cause every time she has posted her art, a lot were quite "surprised" by the art.

>>47042191
Plays games all the time
Has a better singing voice the 90% of other vtubers
has drawing skills

>>47042191
Still better than 90% of holos and the last 10% are basically on par with her.

>>47042287
Doesn't that mean like Kizuna wasn't? Or like any newly created hobby where a trendy term hasn't been designated yet?
Seems like a really shit argument

>>47042191
>like drawing stuff
https://www.instagram.com/ironmouseparty/

Now I get why she has so many models, everytime a vtuber retires, she consumes them and gets a new one

Holy shit the absolute sour grapes seethe in this thread is pathetic.

>>47042391
you can't make money off of that hobbyist level shit lmfao nobody will hire you

>>47042474
>art as a 'career choice'
Bruh

>>47042515
>streaming as a "career choice"
bro....

>>47042561
Yes I would say that to someone
What is your point?

>>47042352
What the fuck are you even saying? The literal first words in Kizuna's first video are "virtual youtuber".
mousewhore was not a virtual youtuber until 2020 just like how everyone using facerig and vrchat were not virtual youtubers.

>>47042474
>maybe if she could draw....
>N-no that doesn"t count. It's not good enough
Nice goalpost move anon. Show me 5 vtubers that weren't ilustrators/modelers/artists before vtubing who draw good enough to be pros.

>>47042606
>Kizuna's first video are "virtual youtuber".
So by your logic she isn't a vtuber, she's a virtual youtuber
Who was the first to call themselves vtuber because apparently that's what's important

>>47042439
I don't think you understand what that expression means.

>>47042191
haha yeah imagine if she did karaoke streams or released song covers or original songs or 3d concerts haha that would be crazy wow can you imagine

>>47042653
Ah so you've completely given up on trying to defend your dogshit point and just nitpick semantics as if vtuber isn't just short for virtual youtuber.
If mousewhore is a vtuber but not a virtual youtuber then she is off-topic for this board and you need to leave.

>>47042191
CoverCorp-wide projects aside, Ironmouse has litterally done more singing and 3D performing that almost every HoloEN member, all while streaming more than like half of HoloEN combined.

>>47042620
>nice goalpost
says the retard whose instinct is to latch onto the very first chance he finds to go "NUH UH" to try to nullify any criticism

>>47042794
Yes seachan it's a way to point out how stupid your reasoning is, well done
If I play games I'm still a ~gamer~ even if I'm not reddit enough to call myself that

>>47042821
You criticised her for not drawing, got blown the fuck out and moved goalposts. I really don't know what the "first chance to nullify all criticism" that you are mentioning is here, considering your criticism was proven to be unfounded.

>>47042689
>>47042811
>3D performance dancing
>when she supposedly has some illness that keeps her nailed to the bed
lmfao you faggots can't even keep your illness story straight. at best they just hired someone else to do the dancing for her like they do for hololive members.

also what the fuck does being able to sing even provide to society?

>>47042902
She herself literally did not consider herself a vtuber until 2020.
She was just a rando using facerig with live2D with a free model.

>>47042934
No one said she was dancing herself retard
>also what the fuck does being able to sing even provide to society?
Really going to go that line after talking about drawing?

>>47042934
Neither of them ever implied she danced herself, retard

>>47042951
>She was just a rando using facerig with live2D with a free model.
So an early vtuber

>>47042934
Anon, illness symptoms are stronger at times and weaker at others, you will understand when you become an adult.
Also, ecen if she wasn't ill, she is still a better streamer than vtubers bigger than her that you probably don't anti as hard.
>also what the fuck does being able to sing even provide to society?
Wtf does vtubing in general provide to society aside from entertainment? Singing is just the same, entertainment.

>>47043064
Kizuna AI is the early vtuber and she showed up with an expensive custom 3D model.
Your weird cope about "early vtubers" makes no fucking sense.

>>47043145
So vtuber = money spent?

>>47043145
Yeah, because she didn’t use the model live. You clearly don’t understand how Kizuna Ai worked

>>47042927
No, I criticized her for being a talentless cunt who doesn't contribute with anything to society. I shouldn't have added the last part to the comment since I made the entire thing too easy for retards like you to just try and dismiss via "NUH UH" and providing shit like amateur drawings as proof that she's somehow doing anything of value to the world at large.

>>47043186
Nope. You could create your own model with zero money spent. mousewhore simply wasn't a vtuber in 2017.

>>47043212
I know exactly how Kizuna Ai worked. What is this fucking argument? Are you saying Ai would have been using a shitty borrowed live2D if she wanted to do a livestream?

>>47043057
Then how the fuck is that a pointer of her "talent" if she hasn't performed the dance herself you stupid fucking faggot?

>>47033922
I watched some faggot who used a meme dog modle from one of those facerig apps who played Path of Exile back in like 2014. Does he count?

Success breeds jealousy

>>47043294
So you need to make/commission a model to count as a vtuber?

>>47043345
The singing part

>>47043494
You need to have some kind of identity. Why are you so focused on money? Are you poor? Perhaps a third-world resident?

>>47043561
You brought up Kizuna having an 'expensive custom 3D model' you retard

>>47043480
anon thats not a anime styled model

>>47043618
Because you said using a free live2D model in facerig is just being an "early vtuber" which it isn't you fucking dumbfuck.

>>47043624
There's nothing anime styled about Baacharu and a bunch of other vtubers. You're just inventing these rules now.

>>47043697
Again, you brought up it being free
>which it isn't
Yes it is
They are using a virtual tracked avatar instead of their face
Whatever additional rules you can't seem to yourself define are irrelevant

>>47043878
>They are using a virtual tracked avatar instead of their face
Then mousewhore is not the first EN vtuber because there were others who used facerig for streaming.
>Whatever additional rules you can't seem to yourself define
What rules have I failed to define? The only "rule" I mentioned was unique identity.

>>47043278
>No, I criticized her for being a talentless cunt
And you were shown that she does have some talent
>not contributing to society
Again, are you really going to use this argument on the vtuber board of a chinese origami forum? What vtuber is there that you consider a contributor to society?

>>47044067
Ok cool they were the first EN vtubers then
>The only "rule" I mentioned was unique identity.
Yeah the vaguest shit you could
Also have you noticed how it's always you guys with autistic names like mousewhore and vshitjo?
No one is ever like 'grr I hate that guraslut'

>>47044320
blah blah shut up nigger i'm neither reading nor responding to you again since you're a retarded faggot who feels the need to protect some random disabled whore online

>>47043294
The fact that the Mouse started early enough to be considered one of the OGs of the OGs is causing so much mental anguish to this guy that you can literally see him contort his brain into a pretzel in real time. That's the only way you arrive at the conclusion that even if you 1) use a facerig for a virtual avatar and 2) stream using said avatar, you are still not a vtuber until you call yourself a vtuber.

>>47044338
There's nothing vague about it. How do you not understand that using anything other than a free model is unique?
I think you're just pretending to be confused because you know exactly what I'm talking about.
I can just call her a whore if that makes you feel better.

>>47044387
>considered one of the OGs of the OGs
But nobody does that.

>>47044460
>How do you not understand that using anything other than a free model is unique?
Because being free doesn't make it not unique
Is filian a vtuber?

>>47044577
>Because being free doesn't make it not unique
Yes it does. Anyone else can look the same. There is no "whore 2017" model.
>Is filian a vtuber?
I have no idea who you're talking about and don't care.

>>47044718
So if someone released a gura model for free and someone piloted that model gura would stop being a vtuber?

>>47044830
If Gura model became free to use in that capacity and someone else could have the exact same look and build an audience with it then yes, but that's not the case.

>>47044830
That's actually already happened

>>47044951
>then yes
Fucking retarded
Your final argument is actually worse than I thought it could be when this started
Just say you have tribalist hate for vshojo and move on

>>47045097
It's fucking hilarious how obsessed you are with pushing this "tribalist hate" narrative.
Whore herself only became a proper vtuber in 2020 according to herself.

>>47045239
>yeah she was a vtuber in 2017 but she wasn't a PROPER vtuber in 2017
so now you're going with the no true scotsman fallacy then
fucking retard

>>47045097
His next argument is going to be that you need to have good and compelling lore to be considered a vtuber. Then after that, maybe he'll go with some kind of universal solipsism argument, where as long as he doesn't know or care about you, you're not a vtuber. He already alluded to it with the Filian answer.

>>47045367
I'm not doing anything. I'm just going by what she said. Are you saying she is retarded and doesn't know what she is?

Why do you keep going when you already conceded that she's not the first EN vtuber? What is even the point?

>>47045471
https://twitter.com/ironmouse/status/1555330540391243776

>>47045560
It doesn't say anniversary of being a vtuber anywhere.

>>47045640
>It's My 5 Year VTuber Anniversary!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NcK_pLFmG28

>>47045239
>It's fucking hilarious how obsessed you are with pushing this "tribalist hate" narrative.
I'm pushing it because I'm right

>>47045679
So is she lying now or did she lie before when she said she only really became a vtuber in 2020?

>>47045706
You think you're right because you're just projecting your own hatred for hololive.

>>47045763
I don't hate hololive or the girls
I hate tribalist holofags
See >>47044338
>No one is ever like 'grr I hate that guraslut'

>>47045857
You do hate hololive and you especially hate the girls.

>>47045719
Just being humble.

>>47045949
Being humble about what?

>>47045900
You can't go on about 'mousewhore' then try to spin it around sorry

>>47045719
Do you have a source for that?
It's weird considering that she got her season 1 model in 2019

>>47046031
I'm just quoting what her fans here have said before in threads like these. Maybe some said 2019, others said 2020.

>>47045991
About being someone who's been doing this a long time and the respect that would naturally come along with that. Not that you respect her, of course. To you, she's "Mousewhore" and you make her the representation of all the things you dislike about western vtubers. I don't care about her content and I probably consider her influence a net negative but I'm not delusional about how far back she goes and the place she's secured in vtubing history.

>>47019416
no he fucking doesn't lol

>>47046149
So your source are anonymous posts on an image board? And you directly attributed those words to the chuuba?
...are perchance a little retarded?

>>47046149
Here's another tweet from her where she explicitly says she's been vtubing since August 2017

https://twitter.com/ironmouse/status/1415295165275770882

>>47017958
I think she will die out of no where due to her condition

>>47019416
I would talk about some of her IRL activist but this board seems to be a vshoujo mod that insta deletes everything

it's always funny to see these EOPs pushing "IM is one of OG" as if she is at the same level as real OGs just to feel important but in reality she has no contribution, no achievement in early vtubing, she is a literal who even more irrelevant than Yua, at least Yua is still known even as a buttjoke

>>47046781
Rule 1 has to apply to everyone or no one
It doesn't mean they're a 'vshuoujo mod'

>>47046816
ywnbj

>>47046912
>no argument

>>47047030
Neither did you, you just said 'nuh-uh she has no achievements'

>>47046816
Of course she doesn't have the same influence as the original Big Four. Not even the most delusional Mouse simp would say that. If she is considered an OG, it would only be by virtue of years active.

>>47047147
>i-it doesn't count
stop pretending, the only reason you're trying so hard to push "she is OG i swear" shit only because you think it is some kind of achievement, the real OGs are known for their achievement and contribution in early vtubing, IM has none, she doesn't even got original model until 2019 lol

>>47047244
not only the oyabun and 4 hk or 2017 chuuba, she has no influence compared to 2018 even 2019 chuuba

>>47047492
She is more influential than any holo from 2019

>>47047492
Yes, like I said, her pre-COVID boom activities are just a trivia point about being one of the oldest ENs but that is undeniably what she is.

>>47047611
HAHAHAHAHA, Holo gen 3 and some gen 4 are 2019 chuuba please don't make me laugh

>>47047147
I hope you're not genuinely upset by that one austic person hitting maximum seethage. Consider the fallout of the autistic tard rage, now anyone that reads this thread is going to canonize 2017 just to avoid being associated with that anon.

This /a/non is the OG vtuber

>>47040261
I'm inclined to believe that she does have something that keeps her from living a completely normal life, simply because other than what she's said about her life in the past, there's no serious doxx or indication of irl social activities. Considering how long she's been doing this, it's surprising that there's little information about her in that regard.

>>47044377
holy cope

>>47048273
>It has a lot of difficulty picking up frowns
Kind of cringe that so many modern vtubers still have this issue
Like oh let me just hit my scared toggle 5 seconds after something scary happened, very cool reaction

>>47047937
Yeah and mousey is more influential than all of them. What the fuck have they ever done?

>>47048756
There's something and it is a teenager right now

>>47048756
she has tweets from 2011~ talking about her illness you have to be insane to think she is lying

>>47053018
We'll see

>>47052988
That doesn't conflict with
>something that keeps her from living a completely normal life

>>47038375
the dude has shibuya kaho, why would he fuck a rat?

>>47034898
Gorillaz used live tracking holograms in their live shows since 1999

>>47031798
that he biological clock is ticking so if she wants a second kid she needs cdawg to be the dad that stepped up already

she is already a millionaire but pls keep sending her money sure she needs it . she is for sure the richest vtuber. Just from her first subathon when whe blew up she already was , like over a year ago.

I find twitch culture fucking weird, people give tons of money to people who are already pretty much set for life, and they keep fucking giving them money, wtf. seriously. There is a mental illness among a lot of viewers.

>>47048273
That is actually a free model from live 2d cubism and they are breaking TOS using it like that. IT is a model anyone can download and use, same as the model the stupid Ai vtuber uses. a free model from Vtube STudio.

>>47059884
ok greyname

>>47060005
so is it like a feeling of belonging to a group? a group that will never interact with you ever, that's fucking lame and cringe dude. supporting talented streamers is much better, the only really big streamer i like who is vtuber is Dya Rikku, she is fucking talented, and she will talk to you some times in chat. Iron mouse chat goes so fast what the fuck is the point. it's like watching asmongold , everyone just fucking is a clone of each other, clone viewers.

>>47060170
I've never paid anyone I was just pointing out it's all vtuber culture

>>47019416
imagine buy her grift still you fucking retards, she has embellished and monetized her conditions for years and you faggots still buy it, dont worry she complete her disney princess arc next year when shes magically cure. Ironmouse fags are unironically the ppl that have never had a meaningful relationship with a woman, they take this cuban muts word at face value.

>>47060954
esl

>>47019416
>she has a really weak immune system and has to get monthly plasma infusions
More like non-existent, and she gets plasma weekly.

It should also be noted that her current condition is not exclusively CVID, but the result of many compounding illnesses and infections facilitated by CVID that have done lasting, sometimes permanent damage to her body.
Anyone who Googles CVID will see that people with CVID can live relatively normal lives under the proper care. But Mouse couldn't afford proper care for a long time.

>>47020199
>People like you are the reason antis think she's a bubblegirl that is literally on her death bed
Antis twist everything into extremes because they're retarded and can't think long enough to process anything more detailed. Nobody who actually watches Mouse claims she's a bubble girl or that she's on her deathbed (she used to be pretty close though).
Antis gonna anti nigga.
>She also doesn't live off of liquid food
She did for several years and only last year started introducing solid foods into her diet again.
And very, very slowly. She started with rice but got sick when she had some plain pasta like a month or two later. And the shrimp you mentioned made her sick, too.
Most of her nutrition is still delivered through choccy milk and other non-foods.

>>47042287
Yes, people who streamed using FaceRig were also vtubers

Do you think that VTubeStudio created vtubers or something?

False she was sick and ill years before cvd , you know she's been a vtuber for like 4 yrs right. she always has said this story. She has like fibromalgia or some shit, auto immune , which is a side effect from various jabs. I highly doubt she took any of the jabs the last few yrs, it would have kiled her, if she is being honest about her health

>>47062760
news flash. Live2d wasn't fucking invented by japs , not even by asians.
The first trackable 2d avatars were called Virtual Puppets and were made by British doods using Adobe software and a bit of programming. Yea Facerig has been around longer than the term Vtuber as well.

>>47062625
>Anyone who Googles CVID will see that people with CVID can live relatively normal lives under the proper care
That's not how she portrayed it. She talked about being a moderator of a CVID forum and her friends dying away and that she herself is past the expected lifetime.

>>47062820
>which is a side effect from various jabs.
Oh shit she got THE VAXX brother?

>>47042191
>who contribute absolutely nothing to society
Her and her BF (best friend) have in less than a year raised nearly a million dollars for the Immunodeficiency Foundation (more to come with her upcoming subathon, which is splitting proceeds with IDF)
She constantly advocates for her viewers to donate plasma, and many of them do when they hadn't before

Not to mention the pivotal role she's played in the way English vtubing has grown and evolved.

>>47063271
Damn that would have made him seethe 6 hours ago but now he can just pretend he didn't read it

>>47063124
CVID in and of itself is not a dangerous or debilitating disease. It's not like AIDS where your body is attacking itself, her immune system just plain doesn't function.
It's all the other diseases, viruses and infections which CVID makes you infinitely more prone to which will kill you.

And the key phrase I used was "proper care."
As you can imagine with such an uncommon condition, especially with America's healthcare systems... proper care is often very much out of reach.

>>47059884
>>47060170
It's even weirder on twitch because she won't read out donations or react to the tts ones and half of her chat just spams emotes on repeat. Twitch chat is genuinely awful

>>47063124
CVID is a degenerative condition. It inevitably gets worse with time meaning you need more medication, more plasma, and those plasma treatments can cost tens of thousands of dollars. Even since mouse has started streaming she's gone from monthly to weekly treatments.
Put two and two together for everyone else

Also most of mouse's current complications come from MAC, the reasons she used to be able to barely walk, the reason she eats like a mouse, the reasons she has to be extra careful not to introduce anything new are because she got MAC (a condition that 95% of people's immune's systems shield them from) and was bedridden for a long time because of it.

>>47064680
Oh yeah and she got covid last year which knocked her on her ass again for a while, still does occasionally.

>>47017958
Well of course, she has nothing else to do so she is gonna be streaming stuff until the day she dies.

>>47063883
the ppl who watch large streamers are quite brainless. Asmongold is at least intelligent some what. I think the rest of the large streamers are pretty much absolute fucking morons. Vtubers and irl

>>47038788
While I like Ironmouse I would never ever ever be jealous of Connor because.
Dude
Imagine what would Ironmouse look like after decades of barely getting out of her bed?
Probably a smelly albino skeleton with flabby skin and huge bags under her eyes. I'd rather just maintain the image of her avatar as being her and also entertain the idea of her finding true love somehow. But not me for sure, ew.

>>47064680
she went from monthly to weekly plasma treatments before she started streaming and MAC only fucked up her lungs not her stomach

>>47066290
I know you googled MAC and saw "lungs" and think that's all it affects but you really need to think about this a little more critically

look at this CAT

So if she's gone from monthly to weekly treatments does that mean within a few years she'll need daily infusions (at which point she's definitely dead because there's not enough plasma for that)?

>>47019416
she's a normal female scamming all of you guillable idiots lol

>>47067357
She's gone to weekly because she can afford it now
She could always have used it

>>47067392
I'm fine with that because if it comes out it would be the biggest drama in all of vtubing
So juicy, so much react, like, o.m.g.

>>47032931
Hard to say and it depends on what is considered vtubing.

Theonemanny technically used all the gimmicks core to todays vtubing but predates the word vtuber by atleast a year or two. early 2015
Used Facerig on release.

people credit Kizuna Ai but there have been mo-cap anime girls way before her. E.g. Sonico. 2016

Sonico herself. More of a marketing exercise than an entertaining product. 2010

Ami Yamato. used her own software and animations. Pixar-Disney-esque. More like a mo-cap vlogger? 2011

And all the VRChat people coming in from 2014 with a hype explosion in 2017 steam release. That is where fucks like Zen came from.

>>47068005
>predates the word vtuber
Irrelevant

>>47017958
can't wait until she kicks the bucket

>>47068175
>not a new ip

>>47068447
Noooo stop he changed it and everything, aren't you convinced?

>>47019416
inbred?

>>47017958
The greatest gifter. Is her niece 18 yet?

>>47065983
She is just a normal girl that tricked retards lol

>>47068175
>>47068542
>>47070326
>>47071625
sus honestly

>>47071711
Bro your bubble girl in an iron lung drives around and shops with her pals

>>47071889
That sounds sick I hope it has treads

>>47071711
>sus
still hope she dies regardless

>>47060954
Do you REALLY think shes that smart? Like fucking really?

>>47019416

>>47017958
Yeah well if someone coughed in her face once she would turn into dust so who's the real winner?

>>47017958
Ironlung will die before you and I do, and I eagerly await the schizo sticky drama that inexplicably finds a way to blame troons for her inevitable death. Lol.

>>47017958
>dies if she has sex
>still a whore with a huge bodycount (and something that gets you banned for mentioning)
why are women like this?

>>47081136
don't make ironlungs personal jannie upset anon

>>47059884
>>47060170
Anon I'm afraid we are the outliers on this horrible board. You have excellent taste and yeah, Dya is cool. I prefer following vtuber artists and riggers more than the massively popular e-girl cringe itself, but this is a simping board full of orbitor cuckolds who eat crayons daily and get upset if you tell them glue isn't food. Don't expect anyone here to give you good advice, anons here love being unacknowledged literal who's to their oshi and don't value their time, money, energy, etc. I see it often compared to as liking an anime character with a voice actor, but streaming is a lot more interpersonal than that so the parasocialism gets weird and messy.

Tl;dr Keep being great, don't let mob losers get you down, anon.

>>47071625
This is exactly what mob mentality does, and the sad thing is nothing is new. Fad "armies" never really last. Ironmouse especially is on borrowed time.

>>47017958
Meanwhile at mouse house

>>47081136
I mean, her roommate is a mother with nearly grown up kids so it's not that you should be asking "why are women like this?" but why do you still bother watching 2D e-sluts if you want their roommates to be pure IRL too lol.

God I hate puerto ricans so much is unreal Ojalá les lleguen mas y mas huracanes