/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>46960476
A lot of men prefer an unshaven bush, actually.

>You will never be heavily sedated while Nami spanks you with a prize winning leek
WHY even live???!!!

I will never forgive what they did to Shee

>>46960730
Okay nami you would know that you whore. But go shave anyway.

Wait, Nami has a vaginal forest?

>>46960730
Completely untrimmed bush and hairy armpits, Amen.
But for the love of god women shave your arm and leg hair and any mustache hairs, that shit is gross,

>>46960854
I'm not Nami, I'm a man and I prefer them clean shaven. I've been looking at pictures of female pubic hair and I cannot get it to stop looking weird to me. But I do know there are a lot of men out there who really like the hair.

>>46960813
Leaving on her donothon is almost like spelling out
>DONT GIVE THIS CORPO OR THEIR GIRLS ANY MONEY
Disgusting behavior. Unlike some, Shee is not from a rich/upper class family and could use the dono money. She still drives Ford Model T to work every day for Christ sake!
Just in case someone is literally retarded, last part is a joke.

>>46961038
Ahhhh, your scamathon didn't do as well as expected? Poor baby.

>>46961038
Shee just want a happy and successful event more than anything else because she get really sad when her event has some flaws. Gen 3 denied us this.

>>46961085
She made like $20,000 from her donothon. That's a pretty substantial amount of money.

>>46961085
>scammathon
>people voluntarily donate if they want


are you retarded? no other girls had issues with delivering what they promised.

Which girls would be interested or have played POE? Would love to see Shee or Lua try it.

>>46961085
It's only a scam if they disappear without even fullfill the donothon goal Lmao

>>46961208
Letti...

>>46961208
Sava lmao

believe it or not: there are actual streams happening!!
Lua
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxygKN_ayy0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxygKN_ayy0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxygKN_ayy0

Shee's birthday
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kYFdVvAmYM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kYFdVvAmYM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kYFdVvAmYM

>>46961196
No please...please not PoE. Unless you mean Pillars of eternity?

>>46961411
I'm watching T1 vs Gen G. This happens once a year. Already watched a bunch of Shee today and yesterday.

>>46961208
And they didn't even wait for Miryu or Peony to cash in on their celebrations.
Peony hit 20k and Miryu had her birthday in a few weeks.
If you want to be greedy whores at least let them all be greedy whores lmao

>>46961364
What donothon goals did she not fulfill? iirc over half of them were done on stream. Did she ever send out the rewards to the top donators? If I was that fag from Germany I would be considering suicide at this point.

Also charlotte is not feeling well. Please send her get well soon messages
https://twitter.com/charsuzu_kawaii/status/1644871430088331265

>>46961428
Path of Exile of course. And I hope Nami will stream D4 when it comes out for being a blizzard shill

>>46961591
Those games are kinda ass to stream but Nami might be the only one who would do it due to her autism.

>>46961591
I have heard D4 is not so good. It seems like Blizzard was poised to make a comeback and then just completely squandered it.

No intern-kun, I will no longer buy into your smear campaign without any concrete evidence, without the other side being able to tell their side of the story, and without any real accusation of wrongdoing besides "disagreement over direction."
I will continue to support the Kawaii girls and I will continue to watch the reincarnated gen 3 girls until we have something more substantial than 4chan rrats to believe.

peony was my only hope for a crpg autist in kawaii. it would have great to see her seriously play witcher 3, pillars, Disco Elysium...now, I guess I hope there's one in Gen 4.

>>46961512
Lol no way they are waiting that long. They want every single stream after the menhera episode to have 0 cuts going into Kawaii so they didn't want to do a good bye stream (which notoriously have big good bye donation as well). They are that catty and spiteful.

>>46961774
I'm sure you can join their official fan discord when they open them up. They are more likely to give you answer there if you manage to get deep enough in the trust circle lol.

>>46961774
>he thinks kawaii has interns
RUMAO

>>46961901
I mean official discord, not fan discord. Just have to simp hard enough to get into the private channels

>>46961901
Gezu has hers already running but it's invite only.
I am sure the whorse has it too already, she will be streaming in a few days.

Lua tearing up during an April Fool's Sonic VN
PEAK GFE

>>46962045
Why is her menhera episode so much cuter? I still remember drunken Lua hand cam reflection incidence. What a cute dork.

>>46962045
very feminine hag, hags are where it's

>>46960813
I will never forgive what they did to Peony, Miryu, Aletta, and Sava

>>46962151
Yea they shouldn't have hired them

>>46961523
she never finished her swimsuit drawing or delivered her top donator rewards

>>46962280
Surely she shipped/made them before she left for "Norway" right? That was almost 4 months ago at this point

>>46962151
Yeah, those were good models.
Fucking 3DPD zoomer whores with a too cool for school attitude let even a rosuri model go to waste.
I will never forgive the cunts behind the mask.

>>46962219
peony and miryu would have been fine with saner genmates

>>46962342
Didn't follow Sava much but I remember that she said the soaps she was supposed to send for her donothon goals were starting to "go bad" and this was a few days before her break to prepare for the flight to "Norway".

>>46961810
The thought of Peony reading some of the dialogue in Disco Elysium out loud LMAO

>>46962462
It's instances like this that make it hard to take Gen 3's side in this whole controversy. Especially when the ringleader is the queen of unfulfilled promises and taking the easy way out.

>>46961512
damn now that you put it that way it makes Aletta and Sava look so much more abhorrent kek. couldn't even wait until their so called precious genmates got their donothons/birthday bags before manipulating the whole gen to graduate, while they got to run away with tens of thousands

>>46962151
All because shee made them watch twilight..that’s why they left before shee’s bday.

>>46962364
Yea, but them being so young is such a high risk for things to go wrong, even if it wasn't completely their fault. Historically, jp or EN, many many late teens/ very early 20's corpo hire run into multiple issues from tough to manage to commitments and it's not always their fault, just the nature of being young and inexperienced

>>46962462
>>46962595
At least it will be fun to see how she plans to work around the "3months in Norway" bullshit that most people in the know never believed for a second.

>>46962342
She always danced around it and ran into convenient issues, her main excuse was that her soap was going bad and turning yellow or some bullshit. She did the same thing with her spicy voice scenario, any time it was bought up she would dismiss it as quickly as she could and would just tell her viewers to be patient. She never intended to fulfill her promises.

>>46962364
Peony and Miryu are still adults who make their own decisions, even if they always appeared timid. They made their choice to stick with their two genmates instead of the other seven girls + management; they knew what they were giving up, especially Miryu who joined specifically because of the idol project in the first place.

Westerner gets disillusioned by Japanese business culture, more news at 11.

>>46962807
same vibe as
>weebs go to japan
>wtf It's not like my animes???
they really were fucking retarded zoomers lmao

>>46962765
I just stopped watching her because it was always one thing after another. I wanna be cool, because when she's great, she's great, but girl's gotta do better about being responsible to her commitments

>>46962766
Miryu in 3D, and Idol outfit. What could have been..

>>46962927

>>46962951
Same. I could tell something was off with the inconsistent streaming schedule and constant excuses. She's quite the entertainer but she clearly has no sense of responsibility and just does everything on a whim. She's better off as an indie, she can't handle the restrictions of contractual obligations.

>>46963105
As a thunderling I feel a bit better knowing that she was on board with this and not just taken against her will.
Good luck dealing with groomers like que now, dumb dragon.

>>46962766
Knowing their age, I can barely consider them adults. I know they are very vulnerable to follow girls older than them and wanting a fit in with the ones close to them. They are naive and have 0 working experience and probably never earn money in their life to this degree. They are probably not even aware of Sava and Letti fucking them over the chance of having their own upcoming donothons.
>>46962710
For example, you run into the risk of young girls getting too overwhelm with school, which is the thing for many girls that age. They aren't often fully independent, particularly Asian ones, and their parents can easily put a hold on their vtubing work. They might simple get bored and find new hobby.
Even look at Holo jp, the young hires typically are the ones giving corpo a lot of trouble. Hachaama has her high and low, sometimes going AWOL for months. Aqua, Shion, Ayame barely stream now and they are on the younger side (but aqua did put in huge amount of work for like 1-2 years and contributed greatly to build holo to where it is today). La+ is their latest young hire and run into issues the most among the HoloX and have to take long breaks as well. The most consistent and quality young hires for jp are probably Suisei and Okayu (the later is well groomed by very hard working hags). The pattern is just very obvious

>>46962740
Genuinely interested in what the next month will be like for her. Either everything blows up in her face when she can stream regularly all of a sudden or she really was in Norway the whole time.

>No letti and Lua offcollab in Japan
>No letti with furi and kaolin collab in Japan

>>46963244
WAS she on board with this?

>>46963348
Would she graduate and remain friends with them afterwards if she wasn't?

>>46963252
sounds to me like a responsible hag or two in every generation would be wise

>>46963348
Look at her already setting up her throne, the auto-tweet when someone gift you a thing exposed her yesterday.
Look at her already setting up a ko-fi donation for a redebut.
And this is the thing that hurt me the most, look at her cheering with NotPeony and NotAletta in NotSava chat during her karaoke yesterday.
She made a choice. Miryu died the day of her graduation.

>>46963252
Peony and Miryu both seem rather nonconfrontational and were also the only two yabless in their gen. It's highly likely that they were convinced by the other two. It's impossible that all four of them were onboard with leaving at a group at first but sure it wasn't too difficult to convince everyone. Personally I'm upset with all of gen 3 because of the damage they did to their senpai's who most likely had nothing to do with the problems they were facing with management. They basically fucked over the people they were calling friends almost the past year and don't have to deal with any of the blowback. I wouldn't blame gen 1/2 for shit talking them, they made a huge mess for everyone else to clean up.

>>46963274
I don't doubt she's in Norway, she just has a menhera moment and want to burn everything down around her. I bet she ran into some financial shortcoming due to losing $600 and asked Kawaii to get all of her earn money upfront to cover for her travel cost as vacationing in Norway/Europe is very costly. The corpo refused because it's usually take 1 month to for youtube to send money to the corpo and 1 month for the corpo to send the money to the talent (this is based on what Liora say about her corpo, which is based in Korea). Kawaii had no obligation to do so. Now, her vacation is ruined because she's stuck in Europe without enough money to fully enjoy it. She probably throw a menhera fit and start bringing up grievance against Kawaii's last of support and pulled other girls into her grievance.
I don't know shit but I have a strong feeling I might be right.

>>46963573
Nice headcanon, but how do you think she lost 600 in the first place? That's where shit gets really interesting.

>>46963573
If your entertainment business cant give a 600 dollar advance payment to a worker then it doesnt deserve to exist

>>46963348
She chose her side and wasn't with the rest of Kawaii. If you were a fan of just Miryu it's not that serious but if you were a fan of the rest of the girls she's a fucking traitor and you shouldn't support her. She's partly to blame for Kawaii's future troubles thanks to the controversy she caused. I'm sure it's going to be way harder to recruit new talents after this shit.

>>46963659
Another interesting thing is the planned offcollab in Europe between gen3 minus Miryu. I don't remember when it was first hinted at but it's quite a while back.

What I remember is Peony saying that she got a passport but now it's useless because the offcollab was not happening most likely, during her deleted cult of the lamb stream where she cried (whore).
Aletta was the first to run into issues with that offcollab, that was supposed to take place in Germany but got moved to the UK (hence Peony needing a passport) because Aletta couldn't get one in time.

>>46963659
The subscription box is what Peont officially revealed to us. She was late to cancel a subscription box service and they charged her for the next year cycle.
$600 doesn't seem much but Sava live probably planned her vacation paycheck by paycheck. It's a big enough hole in her bank account that would cause her to be unable to book a BnB, hotel or motel at a place she wish to visit during her 3 months trip and throw her off schedule.

>>46963804
>I'm sure it's going to be way harder to recruit new talents after this shit.
Good, obviously management is shit and shouldnt lure more indies to join them

>>46963851
go back to sleep, ayayaya
you have prospect terrorist cock to suck behind a pub in a few hours

>>46963851
Sometimes you just find gold in desperate hags or strange methods rather than a high profile audition.
Reminder that Koshita found the best kawaii hire after busting a load to her cosplay of his Holo oshi.

>>46963851
they could have certainly done better selecting talents to hire

>>46963851
I side with management because the rest of the girls side with management and I support the girls. If the company grows, the girls grow and make more money and that makes me happy. Anyone pushing the corrupt anti-corpo rrat in a corpo thread should be shot and killed where they stand. Fuck off back to the catalog dramanigger

>>46963804
I don't think it will be that hard. You underestimate just how many people are out there looking for a corpo to join.

>>46963845
What kind of fucking subscription box is 600 fucking dollars. And why would she claim to have been "scammed" out of it. Poor choice of words?

>>46963796
I doubt this is what actually caused her to want to leave Kawaii. Remember it's all made up. Don't go spreading this around like it's a fact tourist.

>>46964074
Tokyotreat is about 400, and they do scam you. Don't know what happened to the remaining 200

>Issue#3 is out
>Happy Birthday to Shee!
>Happy Easter to everyone!
>A spicier version will be released as a special edition.
>Enjoy and make sure to read the intro.
> Kawaii
https://magazine.kawaii-ai.tech/Issue3/

>>46964144
$400 a year for exotic snacks...those boxes can't cost more than like $30-40 to put together.

>>46964132
Yea, I admitted that I made it up but I'm very good at headcannon (my only failure was trusting Sava but I did suspect a gen 3 strike). I kinda miss Miryu now with her headcannon rants for the games....

>>46964186
All subscription box are scams. They fucking great mark up the claimed values of the items in each box. It's even easier to scam exotic snacks because you typically don't have those items locally fod confirmng and comparing the marked price.
t. Someone who looked at fishing subscription box before

>>46963804
Wactor is still alive even with all the shit they pull and while Tsunderia ended up dying in the end, they still somehow had people who would have debuted for another gen lined up before it completely collapsed and this was after the mass exodus. This shit is undeniably a stain on Kawaii's rep, but they can still recover from this.

Hear me out. How about, instead of trying to make gen4, they just re-cast gen3? The whores already fucked off along with their cucks, leaving 5 perfectly good shells behind. Hire a hag for Oceane and for Aletta, maybe for Sava too, and two pon middle aged women for Peony and Miryu. Since the whole gen was wiped out, just reset it and memoryhole the past whores. Maybe put a shock collar on em like the orange bitch had.

>>46964457
The only mass graduation from contract dispute was my holotv but that was basically on debut. Those three absolute zoomers were able to spot that they are being fucked by contract right as they start. It's strange to have contract dispute 7-8 months into debut where everything should be already running as usual. Even tsunderia girls finished up the term of their contracts, finished their promise to fans, and gave their fans good bye and tsunderia is absolutely shit in multiple ways

>>46964620
Which does suggest that it's probably the four of them getting greedy.

>>46964549
They can recast them as "Generation Fantasia" or whatever. Then nobody will care about numbers.

how mamy more threads in a row will we be getting this same post and argument timeloop

>>46964778
Probably a week or two left

>>46964778
Until the pain and anger is gone

>90 posts
>23 ips
Go touch some grass

>>46964674
This. Aletta and Sava most likely noticed how much more money they would make if they went elsewhere and convinced the other two to join them. They were already growing much faster than their Senpai (thanks to the hard work that the rest of gen 1/2 put into building the kawaii brand that attracted fans in the first place) and they probably figured they could maintain their fanbase while they ran off to be indies. If they wanted to go corpo they wouldn't waste time setting up accounts just to nuke them in a few months and abandon their fans again.

>>46964878
It's 4:37am EST. No.

>>46964878
It's 1 am and my sleep schedule is fucked due to loss of sleep from the debacle.

>>46964883
But that begs the question, why sabotage Peony and Miryu like that? They're smart enough to know that those two won't make nearly as much money on their own. Was it just their way of throwing a hand grenade at Kawaii on the way out?

>>46964778
Welcome to /vt/. Literally every general on this board goes through this. In a few weeks the cycle will repeat. This board would be utterly mundane without discussions like this.

>>46964778
Gen3 fans who still stand with Kawaii deserve to get this out of their system in some way. Let them grieve in peace here, I guess once the 4 backstabbers get their "debut" it will be over.

>>46964952
It looks better for them if the whole gen leaves, supporting the narrative that management was mistreating them and they were all in agreement. But Peony and Miryu are not innocent, they set up new accounts too and agreed to leave everyone behind. It's a stupid decision however since they have much less to gain than the other two from going indie. They'll probably end up making the same amount of money as they were in Kawaii before they left, even without the split. But at least they can operate on their own terms I guess. I wish them no ill will since they didn't fucking scam their fans but I hope Sava and Aletta fade into obscurity and infamy.

>>46964549
Sounds great, but people will probably whine that they're desecrating the memory of the old girls, or some retarded shit like that.

>>46964952
Because they want more peers to agree and follow their path. It's a basic woman move. Beside, in their mind, they are in the rignt and their paths will also benefit Peony and Miryu.
Nevermind that Peony and Miryu are struggling in # even in Kawaii due to their inexperience in streaming and niche contents. They barely started to gain some momentum for growth recently and finally break 100 ccv's. Peony experienced with a shit load of things before finding things that worked for her. Miryu started to try out some game like management suggested and actually inclined in them. Her karaoke Playlist request stream was an huge improvement from the beginning where she just do w/e on a singing stream. She started to stand out because she can string many songs on requests rather than standard karaoke stream with pre-made playlist.

>>46964952
I wouldn't be surprised if the unity fades and they all fuck off doing their own thing individually after a month.
Everyone leaving at once was an obvious way to fuck over Kawaii and there's still some ambiguity for them all leaving, so they haven't ruined their repuatations like doxxeane did because they did officially graduate rather than get terminated.

>>46965141
They hardly interacted on stream when they were in the same gen, maybe they were good friends behind the scenes but I highly doubt it. Maybe if they stayed together in Kawaii a little longer but I guess we'll never know.

>>46965141
It's absurd seeing people taking their side when they're literally the ones that come out on top. They get the benefit of the doubt, support from normalfags and dramafags on twitter, and the rest of the Kawaii members have to deal with their reputation being tarnished as a company. People act like Kawaii is some huge corporation and it's literally like 5 people plus the actual girls. I will never forgive gen 3 for fucking everyone over like this.

>>46965290
People acts like kawaii to some mega corpo when it's like a fucking small business tier company.

>>46965290
The more you talk about them, the more you boost their powers. Just stop crying for the and enjoy the PK streams

>>46965290
>>46965315
Isn't the same true of Wactor though?

>>46965337
I don't think those people give a shit about your vent on /pkg/, so just vent away.

>>46965337
My apologies. I just needed to vent my frustrations.

>>46965290
Twitter freaks will jump on the next [current thing] to hate in a few days don't worry

>>46965457
Ok Hero Hei

>>46965290
>muh tarnished reputation
lmao stop being such a dramatic faggot. No one cares about kawaii or their reputation in the small corpo sphere. Everyone apart from Nene is a literal who and people will forget about missing gen 3 in a week.

>>46965352
Yes, but Wactor did actually do complete bullshit things like sueing AND foxing their talents and consistently months late on pay. Kawaii is no where that level. From other shit corp
Cyberlive literally have a manager overextend with their budget, contact a bunch of commissions and never deliver the payment. It draw badwills to the company and they have 0 merch out. They don't bother hire more managers and just have some talents take up management. Their actual manager sometimes spent too much time hanging out with groomers in discord and caused one of the biggest discord sex yab down the line
Tsunderia is also short hand on management. One manager was allegedly stalking and harassing one of the talent and it took time to kick his ass out. Once again, they have talents doing management work. Mails and gifts sent to PO boxes for talents by fans simply disappeared, never heard of again. The CEO never respond to a damn thing
Merch are delayed for a long long time, and the talents themselves have to go to the CEO's place to pack the merch themselves. Audition happened for a new gen and the candidates are chosen, but somehow never fucking manage to debut.
Kawaii manage to deliver merch in industry standard, get PO box gift and donothon rewards sort out, and has a high profile audition and debut in timely manner (despite of the gen hires being fucking mistakes). The only downside of Kawaii is lack of ads and promotion, but at least they had the NYC animecon worked out and Koshita might bend over time

>>46965599
back to the catalog tourist.

here is my best rrat anons:
>Gen 1 contract renewal is coming
>Management is adjusting all 3 gens contracts with this rework
>Gen 4 is already in the works, 3d models and idol project designs for gen 3 and 4 will start once the gen 4 illustrations are ready
>The new contract increases the hiring term to 2 years to include a new kickstarter for gen 3 and gen 4 3d models, and another clause to make sure everyone on board stays long enough to avoid another N**na
>The clause includes paying all the cost of the 3D model if you leave before the debuts of gen 3 and 4 3D models
>Corpos can and will add addenda to your contract, gen 3 disagrees with the new contract terms
>Gen 2 disagrees but they are already so in and committed with Kawaii Idol project that have no real reason to not accept
>Gen 1 and 2 tried to get some leverage with the new contract terms, and they get accepted
>Gen 3 tries the same but doesn't get anything

Here's my best rat. People get to threaten a company with mutiny only once. It either succeeds or gets them fired. They already did and got Oceane out. They pushed their luck trying it for the second time within a month and a bit from the last one and management told them to fuck off. Story closed.

>>46965830
Doesn't line up with anything that gen 1/2 said in their statement (which is the only piece of evidence we have to go off of). They made it sound like that they were going to leave regardless, everyone was trying to meet their demands and convince them to stay but they jumped ship anyways. It seems pretty clear that the motivating factor was money.

Here's my best rrat
Aletta saw this image and wanted out because she doesn't want to be associated with kawaii fanbase anymore

>>46966109
She's already associated with AI. She could've researched how to not get results like that.

>>46966109
>mouth and ass ready to be fucked at all times
ngl kinda hot

>>46960957
Nami appeared with hairy pits in both of my lucid dreams so far. I come from a family with a decent power of foresight so I believe it to be true.

One of the funniest things voiced as gen 3's concerns is the "burnout"?
What burnout when only Aletta streamed a lot? Miryu was saying "I wanna stream for you guys" multiple times and seemed happy to do it. She did say though that her mom will make her go on a break periodically, which is fine. I think Miryu also has some health issues. Peony jumped into vtubing right before her exams. Her health is also very shakey. Why do these girls do this to themselves? Overload their work schedules and then its someone elses fault?
Anyways, its not like Peony streamed a ton. I would say 3 times a week ON AVERAGE.
They made it seem like they were forced to work in a coal mine.
And Sava was extremely lazy from the start. I barely feel like she was even a part of the company with how little she streamed in 6 months.

I have never seen antis get vindicated so much (even doxxeane to some degree).
Those who called out whorse and sava must be eating good right now.

>>46966416
>One of the funniest things voiced as gen 3's concerns is the "burnout"?
I'm 100% sure that Sava is only person who "burnout".

>>46966416
Yes, anon. We're aware. Everything you could think to say has been said dozens of times already. Can we all just drop them and move on already?

>>46966069
All 3 gens literally can't disclose their contract being reworked as it will break their NDA, we can assume their contracts have been reworked before, as most of the restrictions and policies that gen 1 had, have never even considered for gen 2
They all have shared some info here and there about their contracts, but always been vague about it to avoid actually breaching some clauses
The only thing that we have been told many times is the company cut

>>46966474
Also it very funny that the things antis and schizos were screeching about
>Sava being a numberfagging retard who never delivers on stuff and just leaves when thing don't go her way
>Aletta being a manipulative and spiteful bitch who loved money too much
Turned out to be the most likely reasons for this whole debacle.

>>46966599
The only thing I will mourn is the loss of Savantha ASMR

>>46966109
To be honest this is a clever way to deal with the AI art having horrendous hands.

I actually see this as a good thing. Gen 3 saved management from having to waste money on 3D models for them.

>>46966742
Considering the possible future damage, letting them go now was definitely the best choice. It was always going to be a major blow to Kawaii but it was going to get worse each passing day had they not pulled the trigger.

>>46966677

Btw, do you think that Aletta or Sava were terminally /here/ and started doom spiralling from reading all the rrats and shitposts about them? Like "Omg they dont like us. Someone is trying to force a narrative. Maybe one of the girls is behind this", etc. I can totally see Sava as one of those. Even during that xmas thing, it seems that some things from here got to her. She even said it back then, that she is not good with that stuff and some opinions bother her a lot.
lol What a complete menhera.

>>46966883
More power to Nami. Mindfuck all the whores!

>>46966883
Well I wasted my time defending her /here/ then because she let me down anyway

>>46962016
dont worry I will be leaking info here when they fuck up

>>46966883
>"waaahh 4chins hackers from /pkg/ are mad at meeee"
>proceeda to paint a massive target on her back for ruining Kawaii reputation
holy menhera

>>46966955
how could you not see the writings on the wall
honest inquire

I can't contain my anger. How do you raise 70k and then bail without giving your viewers any of the rewrads. That fucking sociopath

>>46967139
>he really wanted that 5min talk
sucks to suck
LMOA

>>46967015
Shee, menace and chip like her so I was misled. She is talented a entertaining though.

>>46960692
Just blew a fat load to Nene

>>46967015
>>46967267
Also I don't do my reps with /wvt/ dramas. I watch small corpo to get away from that

>>46967280
Is that you in the pic?

new gen soon, yeah?

>>46967444
Honestly, this event probably means no new gens for a long time and/or some serious re-evaluation of how they screen applicants. I don't even know how you'd check for something like this, though

>>46967527
They really can't. If they're not even going to enforce the contracts, they're completely powerless against their employees.

>>46961163
FFS her fans as a whole couldn't even raise for her as much as any of the top 3 donators from the whore-a-thon? Why the fuck were the rich assholes so much more attracted to whorse than the daughterwife?
I barely even watch her and Shee is not only much nicer, funnier and needed more protection, she also has a much more attractive model.
Did the groomers perhaps sense that whorse was going to leave and their chances would change?

>>46967527
Just do what every person here has been saying for the 5 threads. Hags only. Even if you get a sociopathic fool, the others wont be so naive to follow them like Miryu and Peony did. And the chance of having these issues in the first place is significantly lower because older women aren't as liable to be fickle, selfish jerks.

>>46967618
Shee's head is too big. Body has wacky proportions. Whorse admittedly has a nicer model, though that's about all she has over Shee.

>>46967618
You have to consider that all this drama may have made people hesitant to spend money on Kawaii.

>>46967618
I think this apply to sava
Shee is at 15k right now.
Yea shee doesn't have a big draw as whorse. For some reason, vtuber fans, especially pay pigs, don't like the ditzy cute genki girls. They are really into either dommy mommy, loli, or the nerd archetype with weird verbal tics.

>>46967631
You can't be serious. There are a number of prominent examples of older women in VTubing being incredibly unstable. Does the name Uruha Rushia ring a bell? The older they get, the less they have to lose.

>>46967631
1 groomable but talent zoomer who are easily groomed by hags
3 hard working dedicated hags who just want escapism from their OL life
That's a flawless formula. It worked for gen 0 AND gamer gen of hololive. Name a better formula

>all this coping when it's just a shitty company

>>46967799
If we had just surround miryu with 3 OL hags, we could have a perfect gen. Imagine miryu being spoiled by 3 onee-san in the same gen.

>>46967618
>Why the fuck were the rich assholes so much more attracted to whorse
They saw her room mate probably. Dont forget that 3DPD is one of the biggest copes ever.
That and the whole unicorn and gachi solidarity. At least 99% of them would stab each other in the back, just to get anything from their oshi.

>>46967834
Please stop. Considering what could have been only makes it hurt more.

>>46967705
To be honest, Aletta is an anomaly. She is painfully boring and her content is just recycled stories and autistic noises. It is beyond me how the hell did she manage to draw so many people in.
Can you name at least one other girl like that in vtubing? I cant think of anyone of the top of my head.

>>46967946
Pretty much all of HoloEN?

>>46967618
Aletta antis also explained perfectly why she was so succesful at baiting donos.
I know because I was almost baited in the same way in the past.
Can't find the exact posts or write it myself because I am busy but it's in the archives.

>>46967810
shut the fuck up sava

>>46968213
Don't worry, I'm pretty sure I remember the post you were talking about.
The one that was about the "protect me" thing and how she appealed to IT shut-ins?

reminder that management are the good guys here.

>>46968142
Either a nijisister or a catalog fag, or both. As much as I dislike some of them, the entertainment value between let's say IRyS or Fauna and Aletta, is not even close. Ina and Gura are boring as shit though. Kiara is just annoying to me but I see why people would like her. She babbles non stop and goes on a million tangents. I dont know about Bae, but at least she is a good singer/dancer. Aletta has absolutelly nothing going for her other than ayayaya daisuki dayo.

>>46968256
Yeah that one

>>46968142
Nab, HoloEN is more interesting than Letti, and I hate to say it, even M*ri. Maybe kronii or Ina might be as dull, but I never watch them. Gura was very entertaining at her peak when she actually streamed. Irys is similiar to shee but even hornier and have fujo brainrot. Mumei is kinda like miryu with the weird talk and also some enjoy spontaneous karaoke streams but she doesn't have the instrument talent as miryu and not as good of a singer. Fauna somewhat reminds me of Lua.

>>46968315
So even in this post you admit that you find Ina and Gura boring, you didn't even list a single positive thing about either of them.
The fact of the matter is, what happened with Aletta is similar to what happened to Gura. She got lucky with the algorithm which led to more and more people seeing her and subscribing to her, which led to the algorithm recommending her to more people, and so on and so forth. I've heard of people who don't watch VTubers AT ALL somehow getting Aletta recommended to them on their home page. This is very similar to Gura's situation.

>>46968400
Oh yea I forgot Kiara is extremely similiar to reina in so many way. Both have voice that destroy your eardrums, love to dance, cosplay, love unity, love to reach out to people outside of corpo (borderline groomer territory), are fucking loud and usually run the collab.

>>46965830
Seems legit

>>46968464
Aren't both of them German as well?

>>46966742
>saved management from having to waste money on 3D models for them.
Wasting crowdfunding money is a pain

>>46968984
Well they have $600 more than they should, perhaps they should find something to do with that???

>>46969097
hi yuko

>>46968709
You tourists come with the most retarded ideas sometimes

All these people pretending to be Sava and Aletta are funny. Thanks for trying to brighten up this sad time by acting retarded like them. Makes the whole situation a little more bearable.

>>46969145
I am sad that there won't be more rapeposting

>>46969200
There's always Charzu rape-posting...

>>46969145
>>46969200
such a godlike model design completely wasted...

>>46968413
Have you watched Gura 2 years ago? She was anything but boring before she lost motivation. Her streams used to be damn good during the time she was growing. Cute design and algorithm helped her, but she would have never gotten so far without her great streams during the first year.

>>46968413
Gura has a solid morbid humor, very good at innuendo and teasing. She sometimes push /here/ joke a bit but without going too overdone. She's solid at doing a karaoke stream as well and general is creative and fun at gamong stream. Does she deserve to have the most sub of all time? Not really, but she's above average imo.

>>46969220
It's just not the same after the reveal..

>>46969309
I don't know how people can find shark teeth cute

>>46969406
Fang = cute
Shark teeth = lot of fangs = lot of cute
It's simple really

>>46969200
>>46969226
we can still make art of her corpse get raped

>>46969220
Sorry I just can't rapepost her anymore... I know too much

>>46969507
I thought the guro/murder peony fag left

Surprised no one posted Sava's christmas stream yet, normal link not riddle shit

>>46969568
not him but i guess i am new one

>>46969226
All of their models are god tier. I never really watched Oceane past her debut, the voice and normalfaggotry filtered me right away, but holy shit was that model hot. Miryu's was my favorite one though. What an adorable looking creature with a perfect personality to match it.

>>46969584
It's fun to make anons seethe because they are retarded

All their models were amazing, I will laugh when their official indie model (that they are already asking 4k dollars for btw) looks like some deviantart trash or Vshojo garbage like N*en*

>>46969716
>they are already asking 4k dollars for btw
What? Who's asking 4k for it?

Sweaty bored Nami..

https://twitter.com/namiji_kawaii/status/1645031396736466945

>>46961038
The corporation literally decided when they would graduate kek. But you're deep in the hole of
>the company can do no wrong
Until it collapses like all the other cancer and then you'll seethe and fuck off back to red dit where you came from in the first place.
>not from a rich family
>went to grad schoo
Ah yes the american suburbanite "I'm not rich because I can't buy a new car every year".

>
>

>>46962595
>the ringleader
Kek. You are actually mentally ill. And a phasefag.

>>46967875
Her roommate is literally just a typical britslag though. Niggas finna be desperate n sheeit.

>>46969830
the norwegian cumdump

>>46969854
Where is she moving to that it takes a couple of days to drive to.

>>46970015
To the west coast to live with me

>>46964549
Reuse models but hire avtubers.

>>46969830
Sava on her PL, even though she's literally a professional artist/rigger

>>46969830
NotSava is asking for 4k in donation for a new model.
She already bought a "temporary" one btw

>>46970069
It would be funny if she join Idolcorp right after getting 4k and don't even have to spend it on a model.

>>46964155
>https://magazine.kawaii-ai.tech/Issue3/
Very good Ai anon, Glad you stayed with us

>>46960692
https://twitter.com/LuaAsuka_kawaii/status/1645012265744334851
I thought you guys have been saying Lua is a hag, she literally still gets mommy to bring her dinner.
If you birblings ever inseminate her last egg you'll have to take care of two children

>>46967875
Isn't Kaolin more cute? The would probably bow down to management if the knew about her I guess. kek

>>46969612
Jesas

>>46970158
She is taking a vacation with her retired parents

>>46970158
I can't believe gen 3 destroyed few of Lua last eggs. Gen 3 HATE

>>46970116
considering she fucked off from kawaii a few months after her donothon, I would not at all be surprised if 4k is just another grift. as mentioned before she's an artist completely capable of rigging her own model so there's no actual reason for her to commission one from someone else. she's as slimy as they come

>>46970058
>>46970069
You know what. I was sad about them leaving but if this is how they are without the mask it was probably for the best.
They might become successful or die in the indie hole but in the end the, at least the girls that are staying won't have to deal with this kind of people anymore

>>46970133
Where would I go?

>>46970220
That's almost worse. Her mom is retired and she's still making her get dinner? That woman really does need someone to take care of her.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/_JD1Awhh22k

I wanna fuck Kaolin more than I wanna fuck the talents

>>46970894
Retired parents can still cook some bomb ass meals.

>>46970945
Same.

>>46970894
clearly a dumb burger.
As an EUchad from the land of pasta, nothing compares to the meals my hag family members can cook.

>>46960692
>Graduated
>ALL 3RD GEN

>>46971222
Menhera zoomer woman episode

>>46970624
I don't think all of them are like that. It feels like Sava may have been the most extreme one and is dragging the rest down with her.
We'll have to wait and see how it plays out. All of them share blame, but some may be redeemable.

>>46971854
They can't be redeem.
The damage to Kawaii can't be undone unless they come out and straight up denounce whoever the ringleader is and throw her under the bus, saying they were forced and Kawaii "dindu nuffin".
This will never happen and you know it. They where all backstabbing whore and deserve to be at best forgotten, at worst anti'd until they rope themselves.

>>46971854
Aletta miryu and Peony were all vague sadposting leading up to the announcement, thosee three atleast had second thoughts about it. Sava didnt. Sava coerced them to leave with her using a misguided sense of Unity

I LOVE LUA
WEYYYYYYYYYY

>>46972040
That's the saddest part, they probably won't realize what a mistake it was for at least a few months. At which point it'll be too late to come back from.

Phone posting from bed.
Just woke up next to my Nene daki. Ever since I got it waking up has actually been enjoyable
Look forward Shee bros, the future is now.

>>46970894
You must be a white burger, retired parents will force you to eat their food and throw you out of the kitchen
t. EUchad

>>46972302
I can't wait for my Shee daki to get here. I'm going to give it such a big hug. Nami please sell a daki I am on my knees begging, I will buy it instantly I will buy 3 of them please.

Gonna try to refund the gen 3 merch for the shee's frame stand. It's cute. I'm not really that big fans of daki and mousepad.

>>46970894
T:Never felt parental love

>>46971854
I don't trust any of the others but I'm still on the fence about Miryu. She had a stream right on the day, was on pre chat and suddenly cancelled a little bit before the announcement.

>>46973079
Women making retarded decisions and then regretting them when the time comes is not unusual.
Let this be a lesson on thinking for yourself and standing up for what you truly believe, against everything and anything.

>>46973079
She just didn't want to be the only one left, she should have trusted her Senpais, they would have taken her under their wings and would be their loved baby.

>>46973255
She was a fool to give up hag sex like she did. She was Lua's chosen good boy! And she threw it all away!

>>46973079
Peony was such a meek girl, I can't see her standing up to management and saying "I'm leaving, bye" unless someone else convinced her to

>>46973255
>>46973370
SHUT UP STOP I DON'T WANT TO HEAR IT ANYMORE. EVERY TIME YOU SAY THINGS LIKE THIS IT JUST MAKES IT HURT MORE THAT SHE'S GONE

>entire gen graduates on good friday
rrat

>>46973383
Dont think Peony was all that meek, but looked like she liked being in Kawaii, very disappointed in her decision.

>>46973466
She was at best a pants on head retarded zoomer, at worst a backstabbing bitch.
She killed a godly rosuri model (shovelfave aside).
Happy now? Let it go.

>>46973618
It's because she's such good friends with Aletta. If the two of them didn't have that connection, she probably would have stayed.

Stop trying to find excuses for what gen 3 did, no matter what your headcanon says, in the end they all betrayed Kawaii.

wait wait wait that's the actual dakimakura? oh my how will lua daki be, didn't expect for official merch to be spicy like that, yum

>>46973079
I only trust Nene. So fuck Miryu

>>46973837
Yeah, doesn't matter the excuse the result is the same.

Nami's sweaty smelly armpits.

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>46973837
>>46974042
I've seen people get manipulated and coerced before. I'm perfectly willing to forgive if that's what happened.
Not everyone has to be a mustache-twirling villain.

>>46974322
Can't forgive if they don't ask for forgiveness. They are all on the warpath.

Chicken boiiiigerrrrrr?

>>46974322
Gen3 walkout was a very public statement and dealt a big PR damage to Kawaii.
If any of them want a chance to be redeemed, they need to come out publicly against it. That's the only way such damage can start to be repaired.

>>46967618
I don't think you've ever heard the story of how Shee instantly killed her entire fanbase to suck 1 anon artists dick. Would you like to hear that?

>>46974932
Oooooh NTA but I want to hear that

>>46967618
With Gen3 running out after two very prominent donathons, obviously people are spooked at supporting another one from Shee.
Those four bitched fucked with Shee's birthday over something that didn't involve her, just management. Cunts the lot of them INCLUDING PEONY AND MIRYU

>>46974932
GFN killed himself and Shee is on her way to be redeemed completely, cope and seethe about your discord having indie roasties.

>>46975081
As in, literally? That's not funny to joke about even if you dislike him.

>>46975167
No, he did not literally kill himself

Stop bringing ancient drama to a girl who just had her birthday. Have some respect gen3faggots

Stop bringing ancient drama to a girl who just had her birthday. Have some respect gen3faggots

>>46975026
Sucks anon artists dick, he in returns gives her free high quality free art under 1-2 days, they fuck live on stream and in chat and on twitter, one day the sex gets too rough, Shee throws out anon artist for chat, proceeds to still use his art and tons of AI art over her chats though because she loved that dick.
Meanwhile AI Artist too shocked at being dumped, plays loosey noosey, disappears. Aka GFN

>>46975081
Did Shee get even a fraction of hate that Aletta got for Alban or the discord favoritism?
Did Reina get hate for male collabs?

>>46975167
Nah. He was alright and got too into her but had a schizo meltdown because she didn't follow him on twitter or some shit. Then he deleted everything (yt account, twitter, etc) and disappeared.

>>46975430
His schizo meltdown was because he made a too edgy of a joke that put shee off and he started to think she hated him

>>46975387
>have sex live on stream
this just means she paid a lot of attention to him, right? can you at least use real human language and not incel gibberish, so some retard doesnt take this seriously and runs off to the catalog.

>>46975081
GFN was a groomer but at least he was dedicated and very territorial. He wouldn't bother fake being nice to his competitor like the discord cuck. He was posting /here/ about how shee is superior gfe compared to nene almost every thread. When people complain about him being aggressive groomer ruining shee's chat /here/, he just laugh and mock them. He ruined his own sleep schedule (being EUfag) to catch 12 total combined hours of daily shee stream, shee's guerilla and shee's twitter space (back when she didn't have a job yet) to make sure he always participate in her chat. He was a regular NSFW fan art that did many fan arts for prism as well but he dedicated many SFW for shee so she can interact and retweet them. He spent 2 night not sleeping to draw one piece of shee art for valentine (I think) because he committed to individually draw dozens of roses in that fanart. In the end, he got too cocky, flew too close to the sun, and crashed and burn. He owned up to his own mistake and failure /here/ and vowed to disappear forever.

>>46975463
>Watchlong Stream
Won't go into too much detail about it.

>>46975410
Not really but a lot of people weren't enjoy shee stream atmosphere for a bit because despite being a fairy small chat, GFN would dedicate to chatting non-stop for hours straight so shee can respond and interact with him as much as possible.

I've been gone for a month what the fuck happened?

>>46975479
Let me correct this incel gibberish
>Shee and GFN proceed to directly flirt with sexual innuendo in chat
>Chat starts dying
>Shee asks for help in game, nobody wants to help because GFN already is backseating and she reads only his chat
>Shee proceeds to give him 99% of the attention on every social media interaction they have.
>Also proceeds to mainly use his art for everything, and proceed on streaming basically for him.
>GFN says "OK goodnight", Shee literally decides "OK goodnight chat, stream ends here" despite streaming for 12+ hours just because GFN is active.

>>46975679
sure, tourist

>>46975687
God he lived the dream

>>46975616
Also, shee wasn't really playing favoritism or anything. She responded to everyone equally when she can but she was like sub 50 ccv at that point and GFN was going none stop so she naturally responded to him more often.

Sounds like Leti got more hate because she denied there was favoritism while Shee embraced it, but both are revolting.

>>46975504
Man was a real competitor, but made himself really hated because he was a kuk to everyone is for sure lmao, sure he had good art but it doesn't make up for being horny for a maid 24/7 if your gonna be an absolute cuck to everyone

>>46975691
fuck off faggot I work nights now so I can't fucking watch anyone anymore

The Shee GFN twitter spaces are still out there if you want to listen to them. Getting too close to chat members will always be a mistake and she paid with dying chat and slow growth.
Aletta was dickriding a NijiEN homo who showed up in her chat because she wanted to network and build connections, even if it was fucking males.
>inb4 but reina
she never creamed herself live over any male

>>46975504
This is largely true except I never felt like he was particularly territorial. I don't really recall him ever being especially smug.
I also feel like the favoritism is a little overstated. It mostly just came down to her being a pretty low 2 view at the time and him always being around like >>46975736 said.
Back then she'd reply to literally every tweet sent her way - which ultimately is what did him in when he had a meltdown over her not liking a joke he made.

>>46975809
>wagecuck blogposting
https://streamable.com/pqeq3f

>>46975736
>she wasn't playing favoritism
>Have literal streams where they do very semi-sexual rp such as GFN saying he'd lick a Lime bomb out of Shees belly button when she told her party stories
You must be new to Shees fanbase

>>46975847
I recalled him being particularly smug /here/ at least once.

>>46975736
This is pretty much the usual for 2views, I don't know where the people acting like this is a unique thing are coming from. The whole thing is if you don't like that she's giving one guy too much attention, you can chat more until she gives you more attention. But instead of doing that people just bitched out and whined about it months later.

>>46975809
do your archive reps then you fucking imbecile. you are the 10th person asking WHAT HAPPENED today, when we went through 7 generals talking about it plus numerous catalog bait threads.
Also
>I work nights, phones and the internet don't work at night, I can't even take a peak at the general for a month.
Fuck off

>>46975752
Not really. It was on the time they had like 20~30 viewers and most of the chat was him trying to get her attention. There's a reason why /pkg/ doesn't hate him but hates the discordfags.

>>46975839
Alban's an interesting one, dude went from knowing Japanese to being completely fluent in the span of ten months, amazing work ethic. He doesn't need EN corpos anymore because he can lay claim to JPs and KRs now.

>>46975847
Literally any time her name was brought up anyone, GFN adds himself in the convo
Directly antagonize others over shee art
Also
>Shees chat active with about 30-50ish members top, with new members coming in (A spyro stream)
>GFN hops in, Starts sexual RP
>Shee: Sexual RPd back
>Chat and New members trying to chat but weirded out by sexual RP
>Shee and GFN continue for an hour on Sexual RP
>Chat not knowing HOW THE FUCK to chat to someone who's having sexual RP with 1 chat member
>Chat leaves

>>46975889
So Shee was openly whorish while she was growing, but now dismisses any attempt of being flirty even as a joke as "your mommaaaaaa". lol

>>46975889
Nah, I was watching shee that time too. You can get shee to respond to a lot of spicy teasing if you just initiate it. You can easily drive shee to any tangent if you bring up a question. I myself managed to do it too but I usually have stream on while doing something so I can't interact at 100% all the time.

>>46976079
she learned her lesson

>>46976079
Yes, she was the first if anything, where in Kawaii. None of the discordfags acknowledge it because GFE company, but it took like 1-2 months for them to acknowledge she was whoring herself to GFN and it took him leaving for her to actual grow (Her subs took a big ass hit)
I know because I am a day 1 sub fan, and thats the only reason I dislike Shee because there's no saying she will do it again for a good "artist" that can give top notch dick rp

>>46976137
She didn't know she hold the power to mind break a man that hard.
Also, the smash or pass stream that leads to the dog fucking joke (at least one dumbass containment break that shit to her) causes her to hold back on the dirty joke as well.

>>46975889
You are dramatically overstating things, nothing was ever close to explicit enough to call it "sexual RP" and Shee was pretty flirty with everyone - though she definitely scaled back after GFN left.
We're talking about Shee here, she's barely even comfortable saying "hoohaa."

Lets be clear. I don't hate Shee, I just dislike how she actively and literally whored herself for art dick only because it was free and high quality. The smash or pass pokemon stream was ok considering she fucked any dog aninal that can do doggy style but actively being a literal whore and basically streaming for 1 dude at that point minus will would have made her an indie OnlyFans Vtuber where she could've atleast sold AI pics of her naked to GFN to make some income and free art atleast instead of killing her fanbase by whoring herself in her own stream.

>>46976233
It was really funny though because the ending of this story was inevitable but he'll always have a little bit of respect for dying trying.

>>46976457
This ^
He def had it coming considering how he thought he was involved in every convo that had Shees name pop up in and he got big headed about. I give him props lasting around 3 months with the RP and all tho and being her #1 fan and being able to pull her attention anytime he wanted. I hate to say it but Dark will never hold a candle to GFN, even if he dropped bombs upon bombs for her on the Kickstarter/etc/Being her mod.

>listen to Lua's asmr to relax, as I always do
>video ends and Meloco's ASMR video starts playing
>scroll down to comments out of curiosity
>see picrel
Is this guy paid to comment on every stream ever? I see him on a lot of kawaii girls and prism girls videos. I remember some anon posting him here before and pointing out that he always tries to shill nijis in kawaii girls chats or comments. Is this guy retarded or something?
I think it's the same guy that said how Aletta should collab with Mysta because he is ALSO from the UK.

>>46974618
I’d sooner forgive Oceane then any of these traitorous walkouts.

>>46976447
I'm just looking at this discussion and thinking... NOBODY in Kawaii has done all that great besides Aletta and Nene. And nobody else has the so-called "baggage" that Shee does as an excuse.
You're doing all this rationalizing for Shee's numbers when the reality is that Kawaii as a company simply has not promoted itself very well.
But hey, feel free to explain why everyone else gets roughly the same numbers as Shee, if you think you can.

>>46976605
See this button right here? Click it to turn off autoplay.

All of this reeks of envious Londoners mad about Shee successful donothon, amazing merch and happiness even after being sabotaged.

>>46976660
Kawaii has dogshit promotion, yes.
No one ever said this company was perfect or even run exeptionally well

>>46976888
I've been coming to this general for a while and it's always had people who are always just fucking angry about everything all the time. Long before this drama with gen 3 happened. Even when the mood of the actual streams is positive, people in this thread are angry as fuck.

>>46976660
>when the reality is that Kawaii as a company simply has not promoted itself very well

Can you explain why a corpo like phase that is allegedly one of the biggest ones, still has talents like Panko, Airi, Uruka, and even Shiina sometimes WITHOUT RAIDS, that hover around 150-200 ccv? Most of our girls like Lua, Shee, Nami, and Isla (dunno about Reina) regularly get to 100 and break it. I think only Charzu struggles with low ccv for her gameplays.
Also please explain why Fuyo and Pochi hover around 200-250 ccv sometimes which is honestly nothing to brag about considering how new they are and how agressive was their company in promoting them.

Gen 3 did nothing wrong

>>46976888
Yeah. It's a little weird to see someone trying to transform a tragic but comedy gold story into something more than it was.

>>46977052
Hey fuck you faggot, I'm not angry!!!
Just kidding. I remember when I first visited /pkg/ this place was dead most of the time, and people were shitting on Nene for literally no reason. I guess some things never change. The flavor of the month or even year is "Nene is an evil mastermind ringleader that fires her competition".

>>46976888
>Londoners
Literally only Kroniifags use that term on this board and no one else. And I mean NO ONE.

>>46977011
>>46977065
My point being that that's the reason for Shee's low numbers. Not this dumb schizo narrative about GFN. You're obsessing about a tiny difference in numbers, literally a handful of people, and trying to ascribe blame to this or that, when good promotion would render this discussion completely irrelevant. It's like arguing about which ant is the biggest.

>>46977164
I don't even know what that means, never seen it used ever.

>>46974250
I reject this reality

>>46977205
There's an ancient /int/ meme that people from London are manlets. Somehow it leaked its way into this board.

>>46977164
>>46977205
>>46977214
Holy newfags, its a term from /fit/ way before Kronii ever existed.
Was one anon who would reply to every woman sounding post with "please be from London" and tried to meet up with them and it became a meme in the whole site

>>46976660
GFE isn't in the season currently. Maybe during covid it was but it just isn't the niche today. Nene is THE GFE of /PKG/ admit it or not, but there's a reason she has the highest out of all the members. She attracts NormalFags, Tourists, Twitfags, and Schizos which isn't bad.
What is the niche is literally being "Un-fucking-hinged". There's a reason why Kawaii is known as GFE company and known for Schizos/GFE talents that even TONS of fucking indies know about.

Shee IS a good girl, she just did a what you call "Stupid actions get you stupid rewards" moment where she sucked 1 anon too much and got dropped with 15 different debts from that 1 anon. Don't get me wrong, the "Klutz maid" niche isn't so bad if she did it actively with everyone as much as she did it with GFN. She just doesn't rise to the occasion now because she doesn't really pull the perverse jokes anymore ever since "Doggy Pokemon do me" and "Artist do me" Era. Undoubtedly if GFN was still in Kawaii, Shee would be under 5k subs at tops most likely, forever until a new gen comes along and ads her. Reina is hard to get those numbers up because as someone before said, you literally have Kiara which is almost identical to her, except Kiara is Holo and more well known.
Nami isnt too keen on GFE but she's more an "Independent girl" out of all the current (active) talents aside from N**na whom has spoofed. Lua is rising there with MAINLY JP bros, as it's stated since early Kawaii when Lua stated "I don't know anyone you other girls are talking about" inferring most of the other girls fanbase didn't sub/follow Lua, and it was proven Lua was more popular to JP bros some stream early on.
Charzu is literally "Haha Loli" but "Oh not gfe?" And she's blunt as hell against the gfe. Charzu SHOULD def have a higher sub count than she does now as I am a big fan off her content, and she does a lot of original things (which is probably why she isn't in the algorithm for most VTuber fans).
Isla is Isla. That's all. Her being an actual "Shes just like me frfr" living meme has way too many competitions on Twitch, which also includes more viewers on twitch looking for certain niche vtubers. If she collab'd with Indie Twitch streamers, she could have a chance of gaining tons of views/subs/fans.

>>46977011
All small corpo was in a much rougher spot back then, especially on youtube because of how young and unknown the small corpo EN scene was. That's why friend list exist in every small corpo threads because multiple talents having around 50 ccv each were the norm back then. All of the small corpo fans were trying help each other out with discovery. Even the twitch indies were bigger. Nene and Miori were among the first small corpo to incline with short algorithm. I believe luto and Shiki were the only other ones matching the number in youtube but I don't follow them enough to know whether they also spam shorts or not.

>>46977447
Isla just has bad stream times for EN audiences

>>46977538
Isla is Isla, that's all. Isla did nothing wrong.

>>46977538
Isla was busy back in the day. She doesn't stream much often and would go on long breaks frequent but she put a lot of work for music covers at kawaii.

>>46977447
And you're bringing it up because? People were being too positive on Shee and that hurt you?

>>46977447
Jesus anon.... it's okay if you like charzu and it's fine if you like that type of streamer/chat relationship of charzu over shee's.
You don't have to be a full shee schizo about it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZrUdkmCREA
Shee is awake for the finale of her donothon btw

>>46977065
People would hate to admit it, especially the pcg fags, that phase current # success is mostly due to Pippa and her viral campaigns. Many of people are finding phase due to how popular pippa is.

>>46977392
>Holy newfags
You had to be that guy. There always has to be that one guy that CAN'T FUCKING WAIT to call other people newfags.
I quite literally said
>Literally only Kroniifags use that term on this board
>ON THIS BOARD
Do you understand english you fucking shit for brains ape? I only saw it thrown around in infinity. They even have it in the OP or one of the ritual posts I forgot "ignore falseflaggers, londoners..."
I quite literally never ever saw anyone using it besides Kronies. Even in other threads, the famous
LONDON
O
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D
O
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started appearing after Kronii played frost punk and infinity adopted that meme.

>>46977696
Quite the opposite, they're trying to be too overprotective of her which will lead to another GFN situation someday most likely. Simply "Yea she doesn't need to be protected/etc", why? Because GFN Incident Example A.
I'm letting it be known because I don't want her to go into another situation where she drops subs DRASTICALLY because of a mistake of letting "Attention Seekers win". I'm more than ever glad she's doing great with subs now more than ever and even more glad her donothon and birthday is great. Like said I give props to GFN to being her #1 fan but he did fuck her over in the long run all because his pants had a tent the size of a house he couldn't contain over 1 vtuber. Sure Shee is am adult but she's literally the type who WILL respond to almost everyone and do her best to appease them unless it kills chat/weird her out/annoys her/etc. Shes grown a lot but at the same time there are tons of opportunities for her to make mistakes as someone said here before Shee responds actively to everyone if possible and it's easy to get her on a tangent from something completely different.

>>46978044
https://frostpunk.fandom.com/wiki/Londoners

>>46977538
This. I really like Isla, her sense of humor and content are right up my alley but there's just no feasible way for me to watch her and I have no patience for vods.

>>46978080
That's fair. You were just being a fucking schizo with your story describing shee was having ERP with one guy in chat like the EIEN whores.

>>46977447
>There's a reason why Kawaii is known as GFE company and known for Schizos/GFE talents that even TONS of fucking indies know about.
You are saying this like Niji fans are completely mentally stable. Check the doxx site and see 20k to 30k replies under their talents articles while Holo ones have like 200-500 over the course of 2 years. To me, that is true schizo behavior way more than some guy just going "I love Nene so much I wish I could marry her".

>>46977538
As a EUbro I only caught Isla and Charzu live because gen3 fucked up my sleep schedule. I always knew they were great, sadly I can't catch them live.

>>46978088
Gonna had to admit you have shit for brains, as he said in this board and your still actively trying to bring BS about Londoners here.

/pkg/ is healing...

>>46978225
Isn't that all femanons talking about niji males? Not a great comparison between fanbases there.

>>46978250
>ESL
>Didn't even get what was said
Just get the fuck outta here you literal imbecile

>>46978225
But Niji and Holo are big well known companies along with like VSho.
Kawaii is a very small corp, but the literal fact tons of indies know it as THE GFE company isn't looking too hot, especially since the current incident. I literally hopped in a Cla**** stream one time (indie tuber) and her chat and her was discussing schizos and boundaries and some people there literally brought up Kawaii, I don't recall if she said anything about the company, but she did have "comments" on it and shared some of her thoughts, which wasn't too good, but not all bad cause she understood Kawaii was GFE corp and thats why they have GFE type talents.

>>46978419
You reak of twitter "yas qween slay" faggotry. Other than Lua and Nene, no one even does GFE. And Lua is not even a hard core GFE streamer.
You are quite obviously a tourist retard that finds GFE "problematic".

>>46978419
>indie EN vtubers hate kawaii
that's good, they are exactly the reason I went with Kawaii and not with thier aids-ridden semen-slurping fanbase and content.

>>46978355
Ah yes that was my fault, probably replied to the wrong Anon fag tourist here trying to quickly reply to numerous other anon fans here. That's my fault, I should've IP hacked you to identify if you were the londoner shitfag that made no sense bringing up Londoners or were the one arguing against it and saying it's a Kronii term.

>>46978419
I don't know who Cla**** is supposed to be, but if you are even a semi competent streamer, you will easily set the boundaries yourself and get your mods to bonk everyone that gets out of line. Don't act like content itself brings a certain crowd in, when even flesh streamers that are married/have boyfriends, have the exact same schizos in their chats and on their twitter profiles, trying to flirt, asking cringe questions etc.

>>46978514
The company is literal GFE, it started as one until everyone developed their own type of content. The discord calls it a gfe company itself, most indie tourists and streamer even know it as a GFE Corp. This is an absolute bruh moment seeing as your more tourist than I am.

>>46978514
Kawaii is the cute girl company spreading the message of Kawaii to the world.
There is a level of overlap that has with a certain kind of GFE but also ways it doesn't overlap and thus we have, as you said, some girls who are GFE and allot who aren't Charzu, Isla, Nami. Reina and Shee patrolling the border.

>>46978514
When Nene is the face of the company that's what people associate everyone else with. Same shit really with phase and Pippa.

>>46978657
>the discord
the unofficial one?

>>46978657
>everyone did GFE from the start
yeahhhhhhhhhhhh...I'm calling BS on that kek

>>46978525
This is telling me a bunch of redditfags here cannot read and they go on reddit to check out random Corp streamers to get their rocks off to as long as it's gfe.
I clearly never said Indie Vtubers don't like Kawaii, it's just known to them as a GFE corp

>>46978681
For sure, and I am glad it is that way.
Nene stands for everything and anything that is good as a EN Vtuber. She makes 2view whoretubers seethe because she doesn't openly hate her male fanbase and talks about cock all day?
Good. Seethe and watch her grow and mog your ran through ass.

>>46978681
Well what Pippa doing is the "meta" right now for # success. I'll take Nene being the image of kawaii over that

>>46978740
ESL-kun,you are trying to hard to sound like some oldfag. Only the newfest of newfags start bringing up reddit in every other sentence thinking that wil give them more credibility in arguments.

>>46978681
THIS person gets it, which is why I brought Nene up first. It may not be full blown GFE but they still do similar GFE things, considering gen 3 was hot waters for GFE content for a little with OceaCunt and so forth. Their not going to hard deny GFE content either since 1. Money, and 2. CONTENT.

>>46978814
Hard to get a some credibility when somg tourist fans and newfags here cannot read or understand basic fucking English unless you roast them by bringing them to a level of redditors. Which is being nice considering people on reddit can understand English better than some newfags here too schizo deep to understand things.

Nami you have no idea how much i need you right now. I need to hear your soothing words, you must calm my savage beast.

Let this remind you, Yandere GFE exists by none other than Nami.

pumpkin swirl bread
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>>46979018
You genuinely come off as a fed or a journalist the way you're trying to fit in by stringing together a bunch of /here/ buzzwords.

>>46978814
>Doesn't even realize he is replying to multiple different people.
Holy shit... The "old fag" is me and that was my only post in the thread, I didn't even reply to you at all.

>>46979158
Sorry I don't really talk on here much if any considering half the time shit is either about rape, sex, gender bend porn, or weird RP with the talents, that or someone is trying to doxx (Insert Talent/Vtuber) here 50% of the time. Besides that I'm too busy in YT chat lurking instead of reading the 4chan chat here while said talent streams.

>>46979232
>The "old fag" is me and that was my only post in the thread
>new ip

>>46979272
That means you missed the times when half the thread was AI image spam (by me)

>>46979332
Or this considering 90% of the kawaiifags here are actively trying to IP search you to ID you because they have too much free time when their oshi isn't live so they can actively rat out said person to their oshi like the Doxxshells to the gen 1/2 talents to be banned or trying to get rid of any remnant of N**na/Ocea/Aruru/Gen 3 fanfags here for the most random shit.

>>46978639
Clauvio, /vrt/ darling, deep voice, tomboy design, very parasocial.

>>46975905
I can't recall times where he was antagonistic or smug first before someone else complained about him hogging Shee completely.