/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

>>46914412
>every number I don't like is bots
Another problem with this thread. Might a well abolish the daily tally altogether if you're gonna claim this. I don't see anything wrong with those graphs besides that drop at 22:15. Yt CCV is already fucked because of the Zs, culls, ccvid and whatnot. If you're gonna nitpick every little thing then it's better to disregard CCV numbers completely.

>>46914663
Would this just kill EN3 hype instantly?

>>46914800
Another day, another HoloGold
Feels good to be a HoloChad

>>46914873
Pretty much

* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY *
>38,482: Miko (Hololive)
>33,895: Marine (Hololive)
>30,129: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>25,780: Subaru (Hololive)
>24,861: Pekora (Hololive)
>23,863: Hayato (Nijisanji)
>23,498: Selen (Nijisanji)
>21,300: Nerumero (Indie)
>19,967: Okayu (Hololive)
>19,732: Koyori (Hololive)
>19,220: AZKi (Hololive)
>19,177: Subaru (Hololive)
>18,504: Mysta (Nijisanji)
>16,438: Kanata (Hololive)
>17,056: Mio (Hololive)
>13,927: Hal (Neo Porte)
>13,690: Lui (Hololive)
>13,651: Laplus (Hololive)
>11,166: Lauren (Nijisanji)
>11,158: Salome (Nijisanji)
>11,072: Iroha (Hololive)
>10,836: Chiroru (Indie)
>10,525: Mumei (Hololive)
>10,437: Fauna (Hololive)
>10,057: GatchmanV (Indie)
>10,024: Nene (Hololive)

>>46914907
>APRIL 2023 GOLDS
1) Toya (Nijisanji) - 56,531 - Genderbent stream
2) Hal (Neo Porte) - 110,960 - VSaikyo 5 landmark lottery
3) Pekora (Hololive) - 95,630 - Puyo Puyo Tetris 2 w/Suisei
4) Chiroru (Indie) - 32,268 - Hanshin Tigers vs. Hiroshima watchalong
5) Miko (Hololive) - 62,251 - Puyo Puyo Tetris 2 totsu
6) Okayu (Hololive) - 70,189 - New outfit reveal
7) Ponto (Nijisanji) - 66,820 - 3D debut
8) Miko (Hololive) - 38,482 - Minecraft

>PER COMPANY
4x: Hololive
2x: Nijisanji
1x: Indie, Neo Porte

>PER STREAMER
2x: Miko
1x: Chiroru, Hal, Okayu, Pekora, Ponto, Toya

>2023 GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
75x: Hololive
16x: Nijisanji
4x: Indie
2x: Neo Porte
1x: VSPO

>PER STREAMER
28x: Pekora
9x: Marine
6x: Miko
5x: Toya
4x: Subaru
3x: Hololive, Mio, Okayu, Suisei
2x: Chiroru, Hal, Koyori, Kuzuha, Lamy, Nerumero, Nijisanji, Towa
1x: Aqua, Ayame, Choco, Gaku, Gura, Himawari, Hinano, Ina, Kiara, Mito, Mori, Nozomi, Polka, Ponto, Roco, Shion, Watame, Yashiro

kaela got 6k thanks to miko. why miko is online even

>>46914545

>>46914873
Not for the magical audience that materializes for SQUAD collabs and immediately disappears afterwards. Being able to do a single 20k stream every few months is more valuable than a 8-10k floor streamer I guess.

Good growth
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEs3EoiEerE

>>46914969
>2x: Miko
>1x: Pekora

>>46914533
Lmao, deadbeats will a somehow applaud this

>Kaela 6k during EU hours
holy based hagsmith I kneel

>>46915038
what is wrong with these girls

The Sasuke of Hololive

Now, a little detour: before dwelving on Myth's numbers, here is an update for that
* TRUE AVERAGE OF CCV, PER GEN / WAVE, HOLOEN + NIJIEN + STARSEN *
chart

>THE MAJORS
1) Councilrys.
>pushing IRyS into this gen because she's all but officially in it, doesn't change significantly the numbers and for the past so many months she's been absent from this chart
They found an "island of stability" around the 6k line and, if it might not look like much, it's honest work and it puts them as a beacon of hope for the beleaguered EN market.

2) Myth.
Ina's absence is sorely felt, Gura's even more so and their current trajectory is "AAAHHHHH pink wojak" tier, as their Japan arc and 3D Showcase arc just completely fell out of range for the 30 days chart.
Even then, as shown by the "un-deadbeated, un-chickened, max-sharked, max-tacod" at >>46625351 , the core of their problems goes way beyond just Gura and Ina's absence, it is more fundamental.

3) Luxiem.
They had their very own "AAAHHHHH pink wojak" earlier, going all the way to drop below 4k and then stabilized mid march with the return of their "full strength".
Their outlook is not positive tho, specially for a wave that, at their height, were pushing above the 8k line.

>THE MINORS
4) Obsydia
They just picked up a major boost likely coming from Selen organizing the NIjiEN Puyo2 tournament.
Even with that boost, they're tracking at similar numbers they had back in their
>pre Luxiem, never hit 10k ever
days, having lost most of the boost the boys gave them when they debuted

5) Noctyx
They hit their CAREER LOW just this week, and their trajectory mirrors Luxiem's, except divided by 2 in both the heights and the lows.

6) Lazulight
Like Obsydia, they are tracking numbers similar to their pre Luxiem days, having lost all of the buff the boys brought to their wave

THE MIDGETS
7) Tempus
After months of continuous recline broken only by Tempus 2 debut, they seem to have reached rock bottom, touching their career low mid March.
Since them, and in a lot thanks to their participation in Hal's tournament, they stabilized right below the 1.5k mark but, so far, unable to cross it because whatever buff they achieve is being offset by a recline of some of their top members: Bettel, Magni and Vesper.

8) XSoleil
Like Tempus, they are in a months long uninterrupted recline but, unlike Tempus, they don't seem to have found rock bottom yet.
It seems like some high profile collabs of their JP members have slightly raised their average in the previous days, putting them ahead of...

9) Ethyria.
Back before and in December 2021 people in this thread used to make fun of NijiEN numbers because they never had a single entry over 10k and because Ethyria was crashing and burning their whole branch with numbers not infrequently at 3 dgits.
Right now, their average is back at that level, also trailing their pre-Luxiem debut numbers
Right now they are also trailing XSoleil(!)

>THE PUNCHLINE
10) iLUNA. There is that The Onion headline of the
>Man Who Thought He'd Lost All Hope Loses Last Additional Bit Of Hope He Didn't Even Know He Still Had
That's iLUNA, but collectively. They fell into 3 views hell back in February, and now their average dropped below 900 too.

>THE SUMMARY
1) With regards to the ability to attract a consistent and recurring live audience, the whole EN field is dying except for Council.
2) Both companies made big bets and lost big with them, with Tempus 1 and Tempus 2 plus iLUNA and XSoleil failing to gain any ground for their respective companies, and being suspected of having had the opposite effect and pushing away segments of the live audience

>THE "I AIN'T READING ALL THAT I'M HAPPY FOR YOU THOUGH OR SORRY THAT HAPPENED" SHORTER SUMMARY
Everybody is fucked. Council is less fucked.

Euro hours are truly G R I M

>>46915234
Does this look like a Sasuke to you?

GRIM

>>46914907
https://www.iwara.tv/video/n6mekuqgqvip9orr1/passion

>>46914755
I dunno, for every Wilnas you're still getting another 2-3 titty monsters. And GBF was definitely doing way more fanservice than manservice for the first ~4-5 years.

>>46914907
>Pekora got kicked off the podium
Holy Kek

>>46914873
See I told you Hololive is definitely going for more mainstream appeal so that's why they are promoting Holostars this much. If this board didn't have their head stuck up so high in the air they would seen that Hololive is already going through a cultural shift. Mix gender Collabs are becoming norms now

>>46914620
Isn't she using a small pc?

>Towa collabing with Axel
My Towa... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vq1JvrkiFow

>>46915308
in certain doujins? yes.

>>46915405
How is Axel where you draw the line?

>>46915256
>1) With regards to the ability to attract a consistent and recurring live audience, the whole EN field is dying except for Council.
Council win

>>46915405
hakka in shambles

>>46915256
Irys is a shitter holy fuck

>>46915405
NO! WHAT IS MY CUTE AND PURE BOY PAKAEL DOING WITH THESE MANWHORES!

Thanks for the heads up, Pakael APEX streams usually are fun

>>46915405
>My Towa
Is male

*FINAL EN TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN*

>4/8 DAILY TALLY
23,498: Selen (Nijisanji)
18,504: Mysta (Nijisanji)
10,525: Mumei (Hololive)
10,437: Fauna (Hololive)
6,223: Amelia (Hololive)
5,660: Luca (Nijisanji)


>EN GOLDS FOR APRIL 2023
1) Baelz (Hololive) - 10,729 - Unarchived Karaoke
2) Mori (Hololive) - 19,768 - Outfit Reveal
3) Baelz (Hololive) - 9,749 - Q Remastered
4) Mori (Hololive) - 24,195 - Birthday Stream
5) Kronii (Hololive) - 12,994 - Minecraft
6) Sonny (Nijisanji) - 13,826 - Birthday Karaoke
7) Kronii (Hololive) - 21,845 - Uno (w/ Mori, Magni, Vesper)
8) Selen (Nijisanji) - 23,498 - PuyoPuyo Tetris 2 Tournament

>PER COMPANY
6x: Hololive
2x: Nijisanji

>PER STREAMER
2x: Baelz, Mori, Kronii
1x: Sonny, Selen

>POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)
11p: Baelz, Kronii
10p: Mori
8p: Sonny
5p: Selen, Mumei
4p: Fauna
3p: Luca, Ina, Vox, Kotoka, Mysta
1p: Kiara, Axel, Amelia

>>46915405
this is the way. just tell your unicorns fuck off on your early career so you could collabs with anyone you want.

>>46915405
>my Towa
Towa is the city's bicycle

I still hope that Mumei's outfit will be a bit sexy.

>>46915498
I'm the city

>>46915467
>Irys is a shitter holy fuck
Wut? IRyS is with Councilrys there, at the top of the chart

>>46915381
>And GBF was definitely doing way more fanservice than manservice for the first ~4-5 years.
Anon just the releases of people like Lucio, Belial, Sandalphon and even Bowman were "enough" for the retarded ass fujos and I'm not even fucking kidding. GBF always had a high amount of females in their base because of some offshoot characters. Sure, they've been going EXTRA hard in the past like, year, with Wilnas' ass or Belial's dick but like, again, shit like Sandalphon's coffee outfit was enough for them.

>>46915492
but i'm unicorn for pakael...

>>46915491
>2023 EN GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
67x: Hololive
29x: Nijisanji
2x: Holostars

>PER STREAMER
11x: Mori
8x: IRyS, Baelz
7x: Amelia
6x: Vox, Mumei, Fauna, Ina, Gura
5x: Kronii
3x: Mysta, Pomu, Kiara, Shu, Selen
1x: Ike, Flayon, Alban, Elira, Luxiem, Finana, Millie, Luca, Regis, Enna, Rosemi, Hololive English, Ren, Sonny

>2023 POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)
80p: Fauna
67: Mori
66p: Baelz
65p: IRyS
63p: Mumei
62: Ina
56p: Vox
54p: Amelia
43p: Mysta
33p: Kronii
32p: Kiara
30p: Gura
29p: Luca
23p: Selen
17p: Shu
16p: Pomu
11p: Uki, Axel, Sonny
9p: Millie, Enna, Ike
8p: Finana
7p: Regis
6p: Elira, Rosemi, Ren
5p: Flayon, Alban, Luxiem, Hololive English
4p: Vesper, Fulgur
3p: Hakka, Magni, Kotoka
1p: Meloco, Shinri, Gavis, Maria, Pippa, Nina

The triple outfits tonight are going to be fun, because there is probably going to be very little overlap between their audiences. So, we get to see just how fragmented the EN market is now.
>Pippa - shorts and dramafags
>Elira - Holocontrarians and some Twitchfags
>Mumei - Hololoyalists

>>46914907

Which holo doing a male collab cause the biggest shitstorm that and literally cause people to march to COVER corps office and threaten to burn it down

>>46915585
Wait, that's today? All of them? Will they overlap?

>>46915513
I am sure it will have some focus on the thighs but no cleavage

>>46915610
Yes and No

>>46915604
None. People say unicorns are a minority and they actually are, there would be a lot of shitpost if Kanata, for instance, did a Kanata-Shoto 1-on-1 collab on her channel but, after the initial barrage of shitposts, people that take exception of that would just stop watching her.

>>46915604
none of them

>>46915604
None of them, the only thing that will burn down is the Holo's income

Only thing going on for the EN side is Mumei and Bae tonight? Is fauna not streaming?

>>46915533
I'm not denying that's there's been a high number of fujos since forever, but the player population hadn't gone full otome until very recently. Do you think they're making an action RPG and overhauling the fighting game for hags?

>>46915256
Thanks chart anon but right now i don't think we even need chart to see how fucking GRIM everything is. Last year we have at least 12 streams a month from gura + 15 from Ina and we still call them lazy whore. I want to go back, honestly. And with CouncilRys their numbers are down 1-2k compare from last year I think, but it still better than the shitshow that is NijiEN. The EN scene is fucking dying without EN3.

>>46915405
God I'm gonna be so mad when EN3 debut because you can tell there'll be at least 1 girl who'll follow Bae and Towa steps
Or maybe even 2, myth and council each have 2 of them

>>46915703
Fauna's resting after the 11 hour stream, so no. Kronii and Ame have a collab.

Laplus new Apex team looking wild

>>46915256
>CouncilRyS absolutely towering over everyone else
AHAHAHAHA

>>46915405
Is Towa finally in the mood to be carried to Master?

WHAT'S WITH PEKORA AND LICKING FEET?!?!
>Pekora obsessed with shoe licking makes Marine rage trying to teach her puyopuyotetris
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kW-Pf3MKS9E

Funniest part is that I can see that type of "competitiveness" and vindictiveness for real on Pekora.
Not the "forcing to lick" part but striving to improve in order to be able to take revenge after defeats

>>46915604
1. Mumei

-Power Gap-

2. Elira
3. Pippa

>>46915604
Unicorns are all bark no bite that's why they are watching helplessly while girls collab with males. Now Hololive has become so big that Unicorns are irrelevant.

>>46915738
>>46915703
Well and of course Mumei's outfit, and she might karaoke after

>>46915604
unicucks are all bark and no bite

>>46915256
Like I always say, Council saved EN.

>>46914873
Not sure what those retards are going on about. They're ALWAYS looking for new managers.

>>46915796
Take a good swing at the strawmen you created in your mind!

>>46915728
All of ID3 has the mandatory "I love HoloStars" in their debut spreadsheet. I can assure you if EN3 ever happen Fagoo and Omegay will make sure they are all HoloStars fans

>unicucks
You aren't welcomed here, sis.

>>46915832
It's more of a what if situation than anything.

>>46915256
I can only handle EN's GRIM numbers for so long. Is there any current stuff for the JP branches?

>>46915737
Is that Dracula from Castlevania ???

https://twitter.com/tokoyamitowa/status/1644568300029087744?s=46&t=vAuMk6FVLkrJxgLS90A6gw
Alright where is the Chiikawa collab Yagoo? You know everyone want it

>>46915796
You're gonna have a time convincing most of the girls to collab with holostars.

>>46915796
No, it just means that most "unicorns" are just normal dudes who instead of going on a murderous rampage they'll just quietly leave and find another hobby instead of watching homoshits.
Which might explain how HoloEN's recline perfectly aligned with the Tempiss debuts.

>>46915838
Can't accept the fact that you are not the target audience anymore

>>46915913
>I can only handle EN's GRIM numbers for so long
Sorry, people asked for Myth numbers and the Myth girls separated charts since the start of the year during the Japan arc.
After that, maybe AZKi for some yet unseen charts of someone that inclined?

>>46915921
No that is most likely Edmond Dantes (forms de Count of Monte Cristo)

>>46915585
- Pippa's last couple stunts have shown that her ceiling really isn't that high. I'm expecting 7-10k.

- Elira's waiting room looks like shit right now but you can never discount the magical Niji tourists that pop up out of nowhere. I'm expecting 20-30k.

- Mumei's first casual outfit will be a big deal. I'm expecting 40-50k.

>>46915964
I have no idea of who is the "you" you are referring to but I can make a honest assumption and infer it is
>the voices in your head

From the beginning do you nigga really put male collabs = mainstream appeal?

>>46914907

>>46915405
Pakael my beloved

>>46915492
She's an fps vtuber, she really has little to no options.

Reminder that all flips will be busy with their Sunday mass, so expect lower numbers than usual tonight

>>46915160
twitch has a minimum of 40h per month for partners, right? one indie i used to watch literally set up some bogus 24/7 stream to boost up her hours before her trip to japan

>>46915973
I expect Elira to get less than Mori (nightgown, not cowboy) and maaaybe Pomu.

>>46915764
Pekora likes domination, licking feet is just the best way to dominate someone in a non so sexual way, still a little bit sexual but it's not rape

>>46915931
It's not going to happen all together it will be a gradual process. I mean we are already seeing more Holostars × Hololive than what we for last 3 years.

>>46916070
Oh yeah, it's Easter.

>>46915965
I'm pretty interested in gen 4 in particular considering the history as Coco accessories and their incline afterward.

>>46915084
Anon, calm your tits, Pekora will always prevail, she got lapped by Miko Marine at the beginning of March too

Deadhours
https://poal.me/hb4iyz
https://poal.me/hb4iyz
https://poal.me/hb4iyz

>>46915958
This, unironically. I was so invest in HoloEN back in the day. But after the shitshow that is Tempiss I just go /here/ to shit on them and watch JP/ other indies instead. I sign up for the idol experience, I want AKB48 shit, not the "why are these manwhore keep appearing next to my idol" experience

>>46915585
You talk as if they're happening simultaneously.

>>46916012
I'm not the same guy anon

>>46915618
Mumei enjoys getting more attention towards her ass and thighs anyway.

>>46916119
Why do you night act like collabing with Holostar is a rule that will be enforced? Homobeggar bragging about Muh freedom in collab partners but revolt when the girls choose to not touch their boy

>>46915958
Yeah, it needs to be restated that the silent majority is just that - silent, but also the majority. If they don't like something, they aren't going to say shit anywhere, but you can still have some idea what's happening if you track numbers. And the numbers track pretty closely with large swathes of people fucking off when the guys showed up.

So now that it's pretty much confirmed that Yagoo is pushing for more Stars x Hololive collabs hoping that they save his dying branch, are there any other jp IDOL corpo alternatives to hololive?

>>46915256
>Myth: 4469
Holy fuck I thought it couldn't get any worse than when they hit CCVid numbers last year. Gura is the only thing holding that shitshow together. It literally falls apart without her.

>>46916221
Unfortunately no, no other Vtuber corpo built up an unicorn culture like Hololive did

Why are these hours always filled with homofags and homobeggars.

This is the new 2nd army

>>46915958
yup, still watch JP primetime for lunch and in EN Fauna, bought both Days of Fes but fuck off with everything else related to HoloEN, going as far as using my shitty legacy account of youtube with adblock on, no likes/comments on any platform.

>>46914907

>>46916119
So tell me now, who're tge new collabers who used to be pandering to unicorns? Marine? Aqua?

>>46915256
>Myth falling under Council
Mythtards will always hide behind Muh Gura without caring about the rest of them huh

>>46916295
Towa

>>46916114
yesh
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-QG6yLiJrIA

>>46916204
The bikini will reveal a buttmole
I belieb

>unicorns ain't shit
>fucking nyanners lost around 1/3rd of her viewers/subs throughout last year after the boyfriend reveal

Real fan demand

>>46916246
if you want a good number, just remove Kiara. She dragged the whole brand down with her shitty JRPG spam.

>>46916221
yes, connect the world will turn into connect the stars and tempus will be the ones doing the opening

>>46916377
PeBoT+

>>46916207
It's not enforcing encourage is a more suitable word. I mean look at how much they are trying to put Holostars in every Hololive event. From awkwardly shoving Stars jp In Myth's expo livestream in 2021 to releasing 8 Tempus in 6 months to only promoting Holostars watchalong in Holoexpo

>>46915814
The way I see it Myth are starters with the all-stars, and Council are the players coming off the bench who subs in and occasionally has a good game

>>46916376
that's just a coincidence

>>46916177
I don't think it would change much whether they are happening at the same time. They all have little audience overlap with each other and none of them bleed or funnel to each other.

>>46915764
>Taking her comments seriously
Just listen to her poem saying that she was never defeated in entire her life. Of curse is bullshit since she gets steamrolled in almost anything she plays unless she as prep time/traps. I bet she wants to improve but most of it is just Pekora being Pekora.

>>46916246
Hey at least Mori is on break, so that should help.

>>46916411
more like Pee Bottle

>>46916376
1) those were real unicorns 2) nyanners had A LOT of collabs with her bf

>>46915256
I wonder why CouncilRyS is doing so well relatively speaking

>>46916383
No, the problem is that both Kiara and Calli have ass for average CCV, and Ame is hovering around the CouncilRys line. That's just the inevitable chart if neither Gura nor Ina show up for a month (see also Nov-Dec 2022).

>>46916119
>>46916221
>Holostars × Hololive
>Stars x Hololive
Do better.

>>46914907

>>46916383
>you have to remove the one that streams the most for the numbers to look good
the absolute state of your branch lmao

>>46916376
She is still rich and successful so it hardly matters to her anyway

>>46916265
They get paid in (you)s

>>46916449
This
If she was that competitive then she wouldn’t have thrown the Sport Fes or Mario Kart tournament altogether, she would have at least put in the bare minimum amount of practice in

>>46916430
Nothing will change ever. People are Hololive for the girls, not homos.

>>46916556
to be honest she's better than ironmouse

>>46916534
It worked for council

>>46916574
Tell that to cover corp they seem to think otherwise

>>46916602
Not like there was much to remove in the first fucking place

>>46916430
>releasing 8 Tempus in 6 months
That sure went well when their hugbox was locked for 24 hours by tranny-chan.
>only promoting Holostars watchalong in Holoexpo
That's because no fucking one was available for Holofes watchalong, every girl was on stage.

>>46916602 (me)
removing a member to make the numbers look better, I mean

Why is our wife so beautiful?

>>46916430
Tempus 1+2 was a genuine chase for Luxiem gold though.
Or at least that's what they hoped for/pitched to Cover. Now they have real-world data of how starsEN is doing.

>>46916574
I never dare asking /stars/ but I wonder if their original fan hate the direction they are going toward, they used to have their own identity, now they are little more than Hologirls collab partner
The moment they stripped Pizza Papa of his original identity i already know it’s not going to end well

>>46916493
They are absolutely not "doing so well". They just have a more consistent schedule, so while Myth is jumping off the cliff without a parachute CouncilRys just slowly climbing down

>>46916376
>face reveal
off-topic

>>46916076
Don't know the exact amounts but yeah it's something like that. That's why twitch streamers always stream so long. They are contractually obligated to stream that much

>>46916665

>>46916534
For this kind of chart, someone streaming a lot is a detriment if their content choices are trash.

>>46916665
She's the Iroha of Council.

>>46916644
That is also their own doing retard instead of releasing EN 3 they chose Tempus.

>>46916648
Sorry but you cannot remove an active member of Myth like that, that is quite frankly, cheating

>>46915762
Axel is worse than her, they're both bad but at least Towa doesn't tilt as easily. Pakael is good but can he carry two retards?

>>46916665
holy shit. this is mujinbensin right? is there a nsfw version?

https://youtu.be/024iztEL4-4
>20m subs
>26k viewers
Holy recline

>>46916677
The last 5 months says otherwise, if anything they're on a slight incline.

>>46916617
>hey seem to think otherwise
They are not still enforcing anything so it literally doesn't matter.

>>46916430
>It’s not enforcing but [unrelated point of argument]

>>46916795
I hate the antichrist.

>>46914907

apparently Magni's part at anime boston
will we see pictures a half filled room on twitter?

>>46916644
>That's because no fucking one was available for Holofes watchalong
ID3?????????

>>46916672
Yet they are still looking for more Holostars and Hiring manager specifically for them despite what this board says Hololive is promoting Holostars

>>46916838
>please talk about tempiss
Fuck off

>>46916534
well sorry no one wants to watch kiaras 70 hour JRPG playthroughs and her tangent commentary

>>46916795
Wtf since when mrbeast have a tranny friend

You guys better hope Cover won’t hijack Sport Fes or Mario Kart tournament and force the Stars in
More tournaments also mean more chance to put the Stars in

Fauna Hitman: 11 hours
Gura public streams since the start of the year: 15 hours
Gura total stream hours with member streams since the start of the year: 20 hours
Fauna member streams alone since the start of the year: 30 hours

>>46915050
You’re forgetting the entire branch being worth less than Kiara. This is the problem with cover this is why anycolor makes more money it’s not talent amount or cuts it’s wasting money on dead weight

>>46916806
They still enforced that retarded "no overlap" rule just because Fagoo's precious uproar 3D was near at the time

>>46916880
They ran out of chances when the IPO happened.

>>46916783
No

>>46916890
Wdym entire branch worth less than Kiara?

Yagoo hiding Holostars in his attempt to blindside potential investors pretty much confirms that Homos are just not profitable. It would be pretty pathetic to see another HomoJP/EN gen this year.

>>46916883

>>46916883
Yet Fauna is worthless compared to Gura
Funny how things work huh?

>>46916883
You've been spamming this shit nonstop both /here/ and in /hlgg/ for hours. Don't use Fauna to shit on Gura sister. Use Tronii or a homoshit if you want, don't hide behind the CGDCT faction like a bitch.

>>46916221
I really wish there was a better alternative to hololive, in-case they keep pushing this shit. All of the other alternative so far are such a landmine.

>>46916783
>>46916923
But there is more

>>46916754
a country bumpkin?

>>46915256
>“Council didn’t do as well a- ACK!!!”

>>46916880
Not in JP. I could see it happening in EN with ID though.

>>46916972
White clothing really suits her

>>46916880
Stars has their own MK tournament. If that ever happen I'm sure the whole fanbase will turn into a fucking shitshow and we can finally know for sure that there Hololive is in for the Nijification

>>46916929
Nah I think insiders know more than us, they just couldn’t care less as long as the Holos are profitable
So Yagoo strat is probably to use the less profitable girls to incline Stars while keeping the bigger earner in the same place

>>46916795
tired of Mr soiface using his unparalleled bot farm to promote his tranny friend

>>46917010
They have enough people for a tourney? Don’t these nigga only have like uhh, 20-ish people? Maybe even less

>>46916221
>So now that it's pretty much confirmed that Yagoo is pushing for more Stars x Hololive collabs
huh? Qrd?

Aren't you tired of seething about Stars every day /#/?

>>46914907

>>46916815
Literally has a rule to not overlap Holostar's debut. Forcefully delayed Ina's April fool stream so that Tempus can advertise their merch. Intentionally held a meeting during Tempus anniversary to avoid overlapping. Still not enforcing

>>46916880
They wont dude, this isnt nijis where that kind of event got backing from the company itself. Not even towa is that stupid to put her co workers in danger, startend was her idea and she knew by bringing aqua in there will be no room for the the boys that why they bring suisei even if that cost them a better placement in the tournament

>samefagging to keep homo discussion going
Its always so sad to see

>>46916795
how do we save chandler bros...

>>46917024
i doubt that mori or kronii are less profitable though

>>46917024
>Use shitters to incline shitters
Wow, what a fucking genius strategy

>>46917024
Of course they know more. But still doesn't make it any less pathetic desu. I literally laughed out loud when that document got released. Homos are on borrowed time and he knows that.

After IPO cover will turn into a black company compared to anykara, and idolcorp will be the white company

>>46916754
You mean she has the fattest ass?

Will Mumei's outfit reveal fail as hard as Moris?

>>46917091
no

>>46917146
Eigo jouzu

>>46917138
Less profitable than Gura that’s for sure

>>46915256
Moom carry

>>46915069
>More streams than Gura
Haha, that's really funny.

>>46917091
These faggots deserved to be shit on.

>>46916677
Not doing well in terms of what exactly? They're still shitting on the competition, if you want to say they aren't near where they used to be it's one thing, but I wouldn't start saying they aren't doing well until they start getting mogged by other companies/indies.

>>46917189
yes, cover will be westernized and next gen will be prolgbt

>>46917003
>EN/ID
>Tournaments
LMAO

>>46917157
what was the numbers for that mori outfit reveal? i don't remember

>>46914847
>Another problem with this thread.
>Discussing numbers.
>Completely ignoring the recent numbers data, showing they clearly never had a box for that.

Cope harder faggot, also adding the fact that the botted karaoke Mysta just did, had almost identical numbers to Enna Karaoke (19k), who also didn't have enough numbers in the current NijiEN Box to cope with.
Also adding that Enna did a collab karaoke with Kyo and got only 6k. One more time showing these numbers are botted, in fact.
>M-muh JP/China tourists views...
I dare you try to cope with that, because i will be able to shit on Kuzuha as well.

Tell NijiEN management to not get cocky with straight-face botting because of Kronii botted collab. For the HoloEN management who lives rent free here, make sure to know which game is buffed and which is not before botting Kronii's streams again.

>>46917146
Yeah, idol are definitely a (((white))) company.

>>46917138
>Mori
At least she still got some whales left
>Kronii
Do I need to post that Merch $ again ?

>>46916864
this is one of his old friends that suddenly turned into a tranny
i dont know whats up with that
maybe some 5d chess play for mrbeast to have youtube promote them more

>>46916880
>>46916883
>>46916938
>>46916221
Trying too hard, sis.

>>46917253
20k or 21k

I think a bot just replied to me

>>46917255
compared to cover? yeah

>>46917305
>>46917284

>>46916929
It's less about profitable or not and more that their numbers would look like shit compared to girls.
Showing investors debut CCV going from 170k for Holox to 10k for Uproar wouldn't make them look good.

I actually see Pekora drawn as a god or a savior a lot, is that really how JP nousagi see her?

>>46917291
it was THAT grim? you joking

remember when holostars were cucked from collabing with the holo girls? this was no less than one year ago
tempus has opened the gates

>>46917344
why are you obsessed?

Myth runts: Kiara, Mori, Ame
Council runts: IRyS
Council>Myth

>>46916883
Fauna streamed for 11 hours and still can't even touch 200k vid views. No one cares about her, she's boring trash. You wouldn't even be bitching about any of this if Gura was actively streaming because she's far more important

>he's still trying to force /#/ to talk about tempiss

>>46917354
jesus of hololive

>>46916913
But there was still an unwritten rule that you shouldn't stream during 3D debuts. You usually had only one or two max overlapping streams. Maybe when you see someone from upper echelon that never mention Homos at all, let's say Korone collabing with Oga for example, until then it's nothing but a bunch of nothing burgers.

>>46917345
Yeah so they themselves know the Stars is shit and is trying to make investors ignore them on paper
Stars is run like an illegal drug dealing line at this point

>>46917397
Let's be honest, the IPO opened the gates

>>46914907

>>46917427

>>46917423
You missed Fauna

>>46917370
Mori's CCV is embarrassing for her sub count.

>>46917471
Nah no it was Tempus, PizzaPapa used to be a respected man, then he got genetically modified into a fuckboy shortly after Tempus and go full leech, not even Roberu or Oga was that shameless

>>46917279
If anything it will destroy his channel lmfao

>>46917121
>Likes CGDCT
>Stars exist but ignores them and let them be
>Beggars keep begging but ignores them too
>Retards like Mori,Bae, Ollie and Kronii push for unity. Don't like it
>Instead of going menhera and go attack talents chooses to ignore them and don't bother anyone
>COVER starts shoving them down the throat
>Finally complain about it, retards start call me homobeggar.

>>46915405
I fucking hate the IPO

>>46917540
>Persona 3 portable
>RE4
Entirely her fault.

>>46914907
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIO1nUcjyOA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIO1nUcjyOA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIO1nUcjyOA
ORCA SEX!

>>46917606
>still talking about homos

>>46917549
Learn English first retard

>>46917549
Man I fucking miss pizza dad

they can force the homos as much as they want because they can't force the audience to watch or even spend money on them
all this will do is damage the brand and destroying the box

>>46917606
ESL Sister.
We've done this dance so many times already. Give it a rest.

>>46917291
nope

>>46917540
i don't see her outfit reveal numbers here tho

>>46915386
slipkora....

>>46917549
Tempus is just a part of IPO scheme

>>46914907

>>46914907
Love Miko
Simple as

what's this twitch vtuber face reveal bullshit i'm seeing on twitter? who started this dumb shit

Does anyone else feel like this thread is the definition of insanity?
The same posts, over and over again every day...

>>46917717
What IPO scheme, are they trying to short themselves or something?

Indog fan produce the weirdest shit ever

>>46917783
This shit happens like once a year. Just ignore it

>>46917634
>Those panties
The cannon ones are lewder

>>46917783
doesn't that happen every couple months or so?

>>46917815
AH AH AH AH

>>46917700
>>46917704 (me)
>>46917370 (me)
nevermind it is grim

>>46917284
Homobeggar

>>46917783
A lot of Twitch never saw vtubers as more than a temporary diversion for people that might not want to show their flesh face, so the natural result is they want them to "grow" and be more like Kson or Nyanners.

I think this girl had 1.5k subs on the day she did that april fools video for pekora. Looks like she gained 2.5k subs. It more than doubled her subs but honestly I thought she'd get more.

>>46917905
Based and wholesome

>>46917893
>Tell someone to stop talking about homos, get called a homo beggar.
Go back, sis.

>>46917738
get well soon chammers

>>46917809
They believed that holostarsEN would be able to get enough subs and metrics that they would be able to include them in their IPO report without making a fool out of themselves. That fell though and now has to hide them completely.

>>46914907

>>46916924
Tempus as a whole does not even compare to the money kiara brings in

>>46917783
Last year it was an excuse to post their thighs/tits and compare them to their models

>>46917809
If Tempus were a success, it would boost stock prices. As is, they have the money they need, but can also buy back their shares for a profit.

>>46917809
They trying to make Homos look as success no matter what. EN was experiment for Holopro project. It failed.

Fauna is the Last holoEN I'm subbed to but at this rate i will definitely get filtered. Sorry uni bros i don't think i can endure it much longer

>>46917905
based and weeding out the competition

guess that chuuba

>>46914995
She was building her island https://twitter.com/sakuramiko35/status/1644735837672984577

>>46918134
ayame

>>46918082
>It failed
He says that when they are still hiring for more Tempus members and HoloJP members slowly warming up to stars. Nene just recently acknowledged Astel too

Now that all the games these days are fucking garbage, what can vtubers do to offset it?

>>46917003
Ignored them being added to new years instead of the other holo girls. Some of them not even knowing they aren’t participating till after the list dropped. Making homos do the expo tour. Next is hololive summer after that is towa hosted mario kart

>>46918210
More Minecraft

wait a second, I just had a thought... what if Cover shut down the homo hologra to put them into the main one on the hololive channel
and they will do the same thing on ENs side

>>46917471
IPO didnt do shit
they werent even mentioned in the document
it's management aggressively pushing homos onto the girls
this is why shinove quit
he knew it was bullshit

>Only debut girls
>No Homobeggar in fanbase
>No restrictions for his girls
>Free perm for everyone
The real MVP of Otaku culture

>>46914995
How much do you think Kaela would get if she's not boring

>>46918085
One persona can't hold a fortress, its fine to feel that way. But maybe take a break for a month and then come back.

>>46918191
Damare

>>46917234
Not that anon, but please, keep your "I'm a shitter but hey, at least I mog all other shitters" mindset to yourself. How the fuck do you expand your brand awareness and gain profit if your "new" product is showing no sign of growth after one year and a half, while the old one is literally dying ?
>But but but we mog NijiEN
That is a fucking low bar mate. NijiEN was never, ever a competition in the first place. HoloEN literally monopolize the market from the start. Council used to contribute to that in their first 3 months or so. But now they show no sign of growth and is struggling to crawl back to their old peak. EN market is fucking dead because Myth is killing it, while Council is struggling to keep the market on life support.

>>46914907

>>46918277
I feel like I will go back to it in the not so distant future because I have a bad feeling about hololive

Sisters do this homo timeloop nearly every day now.

>>46918134
Me

>>46918299
Return to what?

>>46918359
But he is also running into the same problem as EN. It’s been 2 years since the last time he debut a new batch of girls despite Touhou 17 and 18 being the HoloX of Touhou

>>46918210
I lucked out in that chuubas really are a separate thing for me
I dont care what my oshi plays, as I'm watching for her not the game
Other streamers though? Shit is grim
I can still watch Forsen play kusoge at least

>>46918085
>>46918299
>>46918359
Stop shitting up the thread, Nijinig.

>>46918431
watching Fauna

>>46918277
who's this, toby fox?

>>46918256
>they werent even mentioned in the document
Exactly why those thing happened. Homos are currently to big embarassment to show investors and they want to change it.
They are trying desperatly to boost their numbers.

>>46918210
modded minecraft

>>46918395
I want to fuck a sister

>>46918501
MikoMarine collab when?
It's been too long

Im calling it.
The twitter change next friday will fuck numbers specially for niji.

>>46918468
I can do that

>>46918514
alabamaanon...

>>46918540
qrd? whats gonna happen next friday

>>46918492
Unless they have homo collab every day that isn't going to do happen.

>>46918540
qrd?

How do you think a /#/ meet-up would look like?

>>46914907

>>46918187
i saw her looking for an island on her stream. guess she found something and is prepearing off stream now then
>>46918289
10k easily if she starts a war arc agaist some bigger fish from jp like subaru or sora guild. but she will never do such thing unfortunately

why is kaela mogging kiara?

>>46918604
>>46918610
Only twitter blue/orgs is getting into the recomended tab. No niji has that and some of the girls dont either

>>46918703
Minecraft vs jrpg

These outfit reveals on the same day have to be demoralizing to the one with less ccv

>>46918640
thread is 45% holotranies and 45% holobronies, anon
what do you think?

>>46914995
miko is online now?

>>46918210
Hololive game market!
Holo fans creating more games and holos playing them!

>>46918640

>>46918703
eu guys are not into vtubers

https://www.youtube.com/live/37li7htBfKs?feature=share
Man what a terrible timeslot

>>46917441
>unwritten rules
>But they'd still overlap anyway
That means there is no rule retard, stop with your headcanon. The girls choose to not overlap because it's a nice gesture, and also to keep the immersion going if they have a pre-recorded part in that stream. The main problem is Cover and Fagoo literally implemented the no overlap rule right before Uproar 3D, holy fucking kek that is a fucking desperate move. They have all the time in the world to apply that rules, but no, it was never an issue until Uproar, just because they're Fagoo new lab rat. And did that shit help Uproar or Holostars incline ? NOT, EVEN, ONCE. They even have shittier 3D numbers than mother fucking Bossu

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37li7htBfKs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37li7htBfKs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37li7htBfKs

Predictions? Fauna's slot but a collab with a duo that doesn't do it often

>>46918210
What are you smoking, plenty of good games have come out recently but either they're just not aware of their existence or they aren't that great stream games. They could probably get perms easily.
>Hi-Fi Rush
>Pizza Tower
>Wild Hearts
>Wo Long
>Sifu

> All these recent Hololive x Holostars collab
I feel it is less of Cover forcing it and more of Cover pressuring Stars to perform better otherwise get ready to get side project treatment...
and the only way Stars to know how to incline is to collab with girls

Unicorns crying over Hololive changing lol as long as these mix gender Collabs get numbers these things will continue and currently the hottest thing HoloEN has to offer is Mori's Uno group

>>46918806
i would slap that ass so hard

>>46918821
>>46918813
The timeslot debuff is too much imo
7k if lucky 10k +kneel territory

>>46918753
she appeared on kaela stream. not sure if she is online rn

>>46918826
Dredge is actually a really good game btw and I'm excited to see Fauna play get spooked by it

>>46918821
It's uncanny how rare a lot of EN collab combos are

>>46914907

>>46916880
I do see this happening in the next EN concert

>>46918872
when did she appear? like 5 minutes ago or 50?

>>46918868
It's a fucking weekend and Fauna (and Ina) has people there waiting. It should do over 10k by default.

>>46918905
Fauna/Ina....
Fauna/Ame...
Fauna/Mori...

>>46918826
I think Sifu is a good game for streaming. Like come on, it's Kungfu

>>46918905
En collabs are rare, period.

Mumei's numbers are always so hard to predict. Would be amazing if she manages to draw in some of the jp crowd like she sometimes does or she's gonna terribly underpeform.

>>46918821
EN actually planning a huge funnel for Mumei like they did with Irys's bday

>>46914995
Hasn't Kaela been sitting around 5.5 to 5.9k for the last few hrs? Is miko really only worth 100 viewers?

>>46918926
The absolute state of Fauna