/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Oh shit

Ai is inclining. She's been stuck at 2.95m for months

Yeah vtube is dead.

of course it will be ai, don't be dumb

>>4671441
really? i thought she had at least had some growth that might outpace Gura

Kinda doubt, AI will probably reach it first desu

>>4671430
That old hag need to graduate, nobody want her anymore

>>4671430
Gura.

Ai is gaining around 10,000 subs a month.

Gura is gaining 180,000 subs a month.

If Gura posts a song she can.

ai has more corporate backing than dumb shark, they can easily buy 40k subs if they think it matters lol

>>4671441
She hit 2.95M on 4/22, so it's only been around 1.5 months.

>>4671430
KFP will buy 40K subs for Ai once Gura gets 2.99M

Kek.

That would be almost as gross as her beating fubuki to a million.

>>4671430
Ai doesn't care about her channel anymore, she's moved beyond YouTube.

>>4671430
Even if Ai got there first, her subscriber growth rate is pathetically slow

You know, if we can time this correctly, we can make Gura hit 3M on Kiara's birthday (7/6).

>>4671619
What the hell did we ever do to you guys and Chicken?

Can't wait for a repeat episode of this.

AI is at least trying to get there first
https://youtu.be/SzumpSlKfS0

>>4671679
rent free

>>4671679
So the dumb bird goes on a rant how others steal her special day and beg for pity subs?

Gura. AI is a icon and they don't care that much about youtube anymore. She's mainly a tiktoker.

>>4671679
who's we? you think there are 200,000 schizos on this board like you? or do you want to shell out the money for 200k fake subs?

>>4671687
Was this to Kiara or EOP numberfags?

>>4671687
Based Friend.

>>4671773
This was to EOPs who invaded Friend's chat when shark hit 1mil.

>>4671679
There is no "We" here. Whatever happened to the Chicken is the KFP business.

The stupid race will have Ai hit it first cause ppl will subscribe just to get here there and not because they're fans

>>4671679
It will be just as successful as when your three egg friends would unsubscribe when she hit 1mil.

>>4671430
Gura by a hair but Ai is unironically bigger than youtube now

>>4671813
Zhang pandering, of course

>>4671687
Does holo even acknowledge AI exist?

>>4671841
Most HoloPro still respect her alot

>>4671841
Sora and Ai collabed a couple times in the past. Sora participated in that Fall Guys/Ai event. Gura acknowledged Ai as the first vtuber.

>>4671841
They do, or did.
There was a time they'd even let other company chuubas cameo in hologra.

>>4671806
But people who subscribe to gura are the same

>>4671806
I recall a discord full of people literally making duplicate accounts to subscribe to Gura. It's just Pewdiepie vs T-series again.

>>4671841
Multiple times over the course of their history. Recent stuff would be Lamy reading Ai's superchat, Gura saying how Ai was the first VTuber she watched like many people, and both Matsuri and Aki showing up along with Ai and some other VTubers on Siro's show back in April.

>>4671870
They just pretending.

>>4671946
Explain your reasoning.

>>4671918
Post screenshot, lemme see the juicy stuff

>>4671946
They're not? Pretty much the entire VTuber industry kneels in the presence of Ai since she's the founder and all.

Why so many people love number fagging?
Can anyone give a good reason why people like this, anon?

Watching gura hiting 3M is the last time I will numberfag, I swear.

>>4672032

>>4671841
The moment Hololive disrespect Ai, their company will be as good as dead.

>>4672006
entirely cumbuds. this thread was made by a cumbud.

>>4672175
This is weird, though. Chumbuds should know Gura has massive imposter syndrome and hates numberfagging. She didn't even want to acknowledge either of her 1 million or 2 million milestones until she was practically forced to, and freezes up when confronted with that stuff.
https://youtu.be/oRMh4sP4J4s?t=6495

>>4672006
Numberfagging is what 4chan do.

>>4671430
Are all this subs even real? Gura is nothing special and already hit the ceiling. Ai hasn't been active in youtube altho she still did some live event and TikTok. I can see the increase of Ai popularity thanks to her performance mogging absolutely everyone. But what about Gura?

>>4672353
>Ai hasn't been active in youtube
?

>>4672435
And no one cares

>>4672270
They are bandwagons, anon.

>>4672474
>moving the goalposts when proved wrong
why are watamelon posters like this?

>>4672435
I'm surprised Phao 2 Phut Hon has so few views. Even Literal Who channels get a trillion views when they do that song.

>ai hits 3m
>have to endure chumbabies seethe for months
>gura hits 3m first
>chumbabies shove their meme shark pill down everyone's throats even more
its going to end with retardation either way

>>4672175
>>4672270
samefagging retard be less obvious next time

>>4672569
The point is: The Kizuna Ai brand is dead

>>4672693

>>4672749
She gets new sponsors every other week and rolls out one event after the other. It's just not happening on youtube anymore.

I wonder how much, if at all, not being the "most subscribed vtuber in the world" will affect Ai's business deals? I know most companies only tend to look at surface level shit like subscribers so would someone else having that title make it harder for Ai to get endorsements in the west at least?

>>4672270
I'm inclined to make a dupe account to help push AI over before Gura does just so that the fact can be convoluted to recite and bots would spam it less

>>4671679
Would be the ultimate mog and hopefully permanently put Kiara in her place. She's already doubting herself, if she continues lagging behind the rest of EN maybe she will finally realize she's nothing but a talentless leech unfit for the group.

>>4673890

>>4673193
I thought everyone saw her title as "first" not "most subscribed" It won't affect anything, she's already got a huge portfolio of business dealings.
And honestly I have no clue how visible she ever was to western companies.

It's the 19th June. Gura had hit 2.83M a day ago and she announces a Karaoke Endurance stream to 3M. 170k sub stretch and feat no vtuber had ever done. She'll be the first vtuber to reach 3M having done so before her birthday. Will she reach it before her birthday or will she be so exhausted she slept through her birthday? Find out then. I'm a time traveler and I don't wanna spoil.

>>4671430
I will lose my mind if AI reach 3M first
that sucks

>>4672435
What's with those views? What platform is her audience active on?

>>4672006
numberfag is part of idol culture

>>4671679
based

>>4673890
That 1mil stream of hers was hard to watch because of all the stupid whining. Like, yeah, you got there last but it is still a ONE FUCKING MILLION SUBS IN LESS THAN A YEAR, while being in an unfavorable timeslot to boot! Gura herself does not like numbers talk and deemphasizes it always, so why should you be like that? Is Cover considering dropping you? Of course fucking not.

And it's not like it was her first episode of that kind.

>>4674768
I think being "the first vtuber" carries more weight in Japan where seniority is a big deal. I'm sure nothing will change for her on the JP side. It's the western front that I'm wondering about since as you mentioned, she's not that visible (compared to before anyway) and most of the gigs she's getting might be because of her status as "most subscribed". Then again, this is just me being curious about stuff that might not even happen.

>>4675223
I saw Nyanners collab as a half-hearted attempt at the western market.

>>4675091
Tiktok and Bilibili I think.
Mostly chink market now.

>>4671430
gura will most likely get a giant boost from her birthday stream, that is if she doesn't hit 3mil before then

>>4675223
Wait till Gura gets her own 3D. Sponsors would flock to make their ads with her. Imagine Gura on a TV ad, she shills an item and most people would be attracted by the cute blue shark with a hoodie airing. She's also friendly to kids, adults and old people cause of her daughter-like appeal.

>>4675325
>HoloEN 3D

>>4671508
That's not nice to say about Gura.

>>4675339
>still thinking it's impossible

>>4675384
Admittedy hard to organize, as girls would probably not want to move continents. Cover really should organize a mocap studio in the states already if they are preparing next gen.

>>4675424
Just send a mid-range mocap suit and software to them. Right now, feels like it's impossible to move across continents until at least 70% of the population is vaccinated.

>>4675558
It requires a properly set up room, director and proper mocap cleanup on the data afterwards, anon. Not happening.

Just rent a fucking studio if you don't want to build it, Cover!

>>4672435
those views are pathetic for almost 3mil channel, 95% of her subs are dead

>>4675608
My bad, I thought it was easy to set up a 3D. Codemiko always made it seem without a flaw and Vshojo sometimes streams in VRChat so idk what they use to produce motion on their body.

>>4675424
>Admittedy hard to organize, as girls would probably not want to move continents.
Getting a plane ride to Japan 4~5 times a year isn't that hard, anon.

>>4675719
Progress in this sphere reduced the amount of camers at least, but it is still a shitton of work if you want the result to look any good.
Cover's efforts so far have been carried more by the performer personalities and designs rather than technical excellence. Their models are quite simplistic and lack bones, especially noticeable if you look at external parts like tails and such.

>>4675781
True, but it's not a weekend stay. Girls will have to rehearse a lot, all the while streaming to their audiences, preferably in usual timeslots. Local studio is just so much better.

>>4674989
Like others said in this thread, Gura doesn't want to be the "most sub" vtuber, it seems getting into her.

>>4675719
Iirc code miko’s setup is pretty expensive (which shouldn’t matter since cover is rich now) and is used in Hollywood. It’s also hard but the person behind Miko is pretty tech savvy.

When Gura reaches 3mil, she'll still only be a streamer. Nothing will have changed regarding her standing as a vtuber, because she hasn't actually brought anything new or inspirational to the scene.
Ai-chan will still be the most respected vtuber. Just as Sora is the daisenpai of hololive, Kizuna Ai is the oyabun of vtubers.

>>4671430
Should I pay 1600$ to get Kizuna AI 40k subs so we can stop talking about this

>>4675937
This puts her under the spotlight even more, with all that entails. I am sure eventually she will thrive in it, but it will happen on her own time. Not necessarily in Holo EN, hehe.

>>4675979
do it pussy

>>4671687
It was at this moment that I realized that HoloEN (mostly chumshits) were a mistake.

>>4675991
why are HERfags like this

>>4675960
I already cancelled my membership to Gura. She’s pretty stagnant in content and all she does is karaoke member streams where the vod get posted a couple of hours after. Kinda expected more knowing her previous identity.

>>4671567
Get 3M, instantly passed by Gura anyway. If you just really hated money it might be a good idea to get rid of some of it.

>>4675979
I fucking dare you, faggot

>>4675841
>Local studio is just so much better.
It wouldn't be just one though. It would need to be 4 different studios in 3 different countries. Logistically, it would be easier just to ship the girls over. It would also be a great opportunity for off-stream collabs.

>>4676027
Ask your mother.

>>4675960
Kizuna's company fucked her career and her legacy. Who knows what the end for current vtubers will be but for Kizuna Ai she's almost certainly going to just be a historical footnote of "first big vtuber before streaming became the norm".

>>4671841
Yeah when Gura was playing Project Diva, an AI song popped up and Gura whispered "fuck you" under her breath
https://streamable.com/fwilie

>>4675991
Yeah, I just hope she wont get a mental breakdown before that happen.
>>4675979
Do it, also if you can find a way, please superchat $500,000 in her celebration stream to stop all numberfags all together

>>4676130
Wasn't there an actor change as well?

>>4675960
You think people gave a shit about Serena William's accomplishments in the world of Female Tennis when she lost to Naomi Osaka in 2018?

No, people care more that she lost. Sure she has more accolades, but that didn't matter in the moment. Serena Williams was a loser in the 2018 US Open and Kizuna Ai will also be a loser in 1 month

>>4676181
Nope.

>>4676204
>3DPD
who care

>>4676204
>giving a shit about roided ape in the first place
So many cucks, so few gas chambers.

>>4676181
They split off multiple "versions" of her and gave those different VAs. All the copies are scrapped by now, the current Kizuna Ai is the original VA.

>>4676263
The definition of a fail then. Who even thought it would be a good idea?

>>4676144
Well, I believe in her.

>>4676332
>Who even thought it would be a good idea?
Suits ruining things as per usual. The people responsible have all been fired and discarded, but desu that wasn't nearly punishment enough.

>>4676263
Pretty sure Chinese/BiliBili Ai still exists

>>4676416
She's always been a separate entity though, unrelated to the split. It's what made the split episode so much more retarded. They did it right the first time round and then fucked it up when all they had to do was just repeat what they just did.

At least Love-chan is her own entity now, and is getting a 3D model tomorrow. Shame Ai-pii quit.

>>4675997
>>4671687
The thing has been debated to death.
As usual the dumb shitters don’t know jack shit but still vocal their own opinions on a picture.

>>4676551
Own up to your shit behavior, cumcuck.

>>4671619

>>4676578
Lurk more before talking, dumb shitter.

>>4676551
>>4676578
As if there was any difference between you two, kek.

>>4671841
Nah, Holo is too insignificant for AI to care

>>4673193
It doesnt matter anymore, her brand has move beyond youtube. She still dominate both tiktok and bilibili, other chubas can only dream to reach her height of success

>>4676792
You are getting desperate.

>>4675325
Too bad Gura doesnt have the same charisma as non-chan. She already piss her pants at the thoughts of streaming everyday, put her in the spotlight and she might got a heart attack.
Just leave her alone you numberfaggots, the girl just wanna stream in peace

>>4676856
He's probably falseflagging, but also not wrong.

>>4676902
And samefag to boot. Why are subhumans always so predictable?

>>4671573
>10k in 1.5 months
so basically stuck

>>4676130
Sigh... these newfags

>>4676497
Based Kizuner, promoting Love-chan while at it

>>4676982
Go back to whatever forum hellhole you came out of.

>>4676982
That's all that will remember Ai, old people going "back in my day......" No one cares now.

>>4676651
Yeah, but it is fine. I don’t really care.
I am just tired of pretentious people trying to repeat a timeloop.

>>4671430
how the fuck did kizuna ai still didn't reach 3m? Like wtf

>>4677039
We're literally going to repeat this every time the meme shark surpasses anyone in subs or someone is a little mean to her. Remember Iofi? The rigging incident?

>>4676034
What did you expect? Meme song covers where she pretends to get shitfaced? She barely even curses on stream, what makes you think she'll do anything more risque in a members stream?

>>4671679
kek.

>>4677058
>>4677111
Seethe more, please.

>>4675199
>5 minutes of a 12 hour stream
Seethe, egg.

>>4675685
*checks gura's view
yea, pathetic for almost 3mil channel, 95% of her subs are dead confirmed

>>4677227
>egg

Learn to read, schizo.

>>4677058
Yeah, but I’m pretty sure a whole army of falseflaggers are eager to stir shits up as well. Remember the “rigger’s death threats” claims, I am still waiting for the pictures of “ death threats”. It’s very easy to say something scandalous here and claim that you are a cumbud. And tourists believe it all the time.

Yeah, but I’m pretty sure falseflaggers are eager to stir shits up as well. Remember the “rigger’s death threats” claims, I am still waiting for the pictures of “ death threats”. It’s very easy to say something scandalous here and claim that you are a cumbud. Tourists believe it all the time.

Genuine question, why was Gura's fans named chumbuds? Like tf? It sounds weird as hell, are you guys buckets for cum?

>>4678089
>chum
>buddy

Not that hard, really.
We shrimps tho.

>>4678089
Chum can mean friend or fish bait. Bud also means friend, as in buddy.

Chumbuddy is also a brand of a shark shaped sleeping bag.

>>4678623
lol it's actually true

>>4678777

Can you stfu and let this retarded thread die

>>4678305

To specify, chum is bait that is used to catch predatory fish, such as sharks.

seeing posts of people loving gura makes me super upset because when she was still in her senzawa phase, she laughed at me in voice chat in her discord server lol

>>4679272
What is stopping her from laughing at you now? Just do something extremely retarded, lol.

>>4679567
loool nooo she laughed to make fun of me, i used to really like her. after she laughed at me i cried

>>4679633
Considering the cringy shit she did before the Senzawa channel, I would not personally care.

>>4679826
yeaaa only thing that bothers me is everyone believes she is super innocent atm

>>4679918
Have to be blind and deaf to believe shark to be anywhere near "innocent". Still, she turned a leaf and made pretty serious changes, you at least gotta respect that.

>>4679918
>>4680037
You too are either fake chumbuds, or extremelety retarded

>>4675781
You do realize that covid is still roaring in Japan right? They are literally just about to put it on lockdown again

>>4680104

I enjoy Gura the most out of the EN girls but it's also important to recognise people's faults and mistakes.

>>4680104
i am retarded yea but i dont watch her

>>4680104
And you are sad in your quest for pity comments.
Here, have one.

>>4679272
>>4679633
>>4679918
are you 12?

>>4683878
just a retarded aspie girl im sorry

>Gura laughed at a tranny on voice chat
how come she keeps getting more and more based

>>4684164
im not trans
frown

big frowns i am not trans

>>4671461

yeah the industry is stagnating,
streaming is whats gonna kill vtubing,
nothing new is done, they just do the same old games same old trends, basicly coping twitch and their garbage content, almost all streams are shit like talking or reading super chat for 3 hours.

at this point eliene is like the only one doing innovative stuff like with her interactive videos,
i guess theirs also kaf if you are only interested in vsingers

>>4671841
nah, obviously they know most of the people in the industry, but never seriously tried to collab or interact with ai or any one involved with her although sora has been in same commercials ai has been in.

funny is that they even had a holographiti collab with eliene and the hime girls im prettysure but not even kizunai the most subed vtuber at the time this was before hololive became popular obviously

this I commend holo for that. they don't leech from others, and usually stay to their own

>>4684831
is not like they can anymore, AI chink overlords won't allow it

>>4684556
>>4684831
>>4684965
Go back to your basement asus motherboard assembly line seanigger.

>>4684164
>Pro loli
>A weeb
>Hates trannies
>Willing to entertain footfags
I love Gura.

>>4686226
Gura is a feetfag in denial herself.
Glorious, completely glorious.

>>4671841
Ai visited Lamy's stream and gave her a SC.
She probably needed to be in the yakuza's good graces for something.

>>4678623
>>4678305
>>4678623
I see.. but lets just stay with shrimp, chumbuds still sounds gae af

>>4671841
Of course they do. But well, only Sora really knows and interact with her at that time.
Tbf, All vtuber aknowledge each other back in the day. AI was leading them to together push the niche into mainstream, thus 2018 become the golden age of vtuber and thousands debut that year.
Nowdays vtuber from that generation rarely making contents on youtube and focus more on off line activites. That's why their contents are mostly stream. They still collabing and play together from time to time tho

>>4671430
Yeah, but who will reach 4 million first?

>>4690704
But can they beat Goku though?

>>4671679
kiara is recovering from Ina'a 1M milestone HAHAHA
this would break her mentally

>>4676551
you sound like a coping cumbud

>>4686226
TOEEEEESSSSS

>>4690704
HololiveEN 2nd gen superstar Meon Auraas

>>4671827
She was able to hit it off with EOPs, just not on the right website.

>>4671430
and AI's pace it will probably be gura, sometime in early july she'll pass her and hit 3mil, unless her b-day stream pushes her over with an unexpected 100k boost or something. or gura releases something like a single that boost her.

>>4671679
i'm a terrible person, i don't even really dislike kiara all that much and i still laughed at this.

>>4671430
It takes Kizuna like two months to get 10k and even collabing with the vshojo whores didn't helped her incline, Gura will get a big boost with her birthday coming up in a couple of weeks and dropping her original song which was postponed to match that date.

Subbing to AI just to give gura the L

>>4695119
It's okay to enjoy /vt/ memes.

Many vtuber fans want AI to maintain her position, and Gura being a newcomer makes people feel she shouldn't become number 1 so quickly. My guess is AI will beat Gura to 3 million, but Gura will take over after and beat AI to 4 million before AI's gotten to 3.5 million.

I hope they both reach it at the same time. That would actually be cool

But for real, Gura's going to get there first

>>4698757
fuck off Gura

>>4671679
First of all, I laffed. Secondly, what then? Threads turn to shit for a few days because Gura doesn't celebrate it in order to leave the stage for Kiara, and later she will say "oh, I didn't even notice that was upcoming because of the birthday, and then I was thinking about feet and you know that reminds me of Ame... but oh yeah, that's pretty cool, arigatou!"

>>4672895
didn't ask

>>4672756
photoshop

>>4675384
It's nice that the ID branch is getting a 3D. Moona and Risu can sing very well. Fuck Iofi.

>>4675991
Chat will spam "3M subs!", and Gura will freeze for a few minutes after figuring out what has happened. She laughs it off, says her thanks, and continues streaming like nothing has happened.

>>4671430
gura would probably rather Kizuna Ai gets to 3M first...

Gura definitely drinks herself to sleep these days watching her numbers and praying in tears in that her growth slows down or that AI gets to 3M first. She know the hell that will be unleashed if she hits 3M first. Probably gonna graduate after her imposter syndrome relapses so hard she can't function like she has been.

>>4700468
>Insert le sad shark image

>After 3mil milestone no matter who hits it first Kizuna collabs with Gura as a sort of changing of the guard

Would be unironically kino and the japs would love it.

subs don't matter, Pekora is the most popular vtuber in the world. Gura will never be relevant and will spend all her vtuber life playing videogames badly, doing karaoke and having discord sex with Ame
t. totally not Gura

>>4700570
Can you imagine the babbling mess Gura will be in a collab with Ai?

>>4700570
>changing of the guard
Do numberfags really think that the moment someone overtakes the other in subs they magically get all the stuff the other had? Gura doesn't even have a 3D model, much less the respect of her JP senpais. She's just a cute shark that goes "a", but doesn't even come close to anyone else in hololive in terms of standing within the vtuber community. A collab could be cute, but Kizuna is so much more than just numbers, while Gura isn't much beyond that. As the other anon says, Pekora or Fubuki would be actual viable candidates for something like that.

>>4700563

>>4686226
>Pro loli
Source?

I think Gura is going to be the first Kizuna is not the original anymore.

>>4698757
Gura, please! You're and Ame are the only Hololive patriots, this will be a great achievement for Hololive!

>>4703488
You*** fking hell

>>4684164
i need sauce on the tranny laugh

>>4700894
I love how you faggots went from "Dumb Shark will never even come close to Kizuna" to "So what if she surpasses her, numbers don't matter".

>>4679272
Well, I’m laughing at you now. Lol

Inevitable

>>4702621
Just check her twitter likes
Or watch her streams whenever a loli shows up

>>4700894
faggot nigger wrote this post, gura has far more personality, and keeps her streams entertaining throughout unlike so many other boring fucking vshojo rejects. you're post also is alleging that any of these claims are made by anyone, literal snopes tier retard.

What if Kizuna joined hololive? will she get the gura boost at the start?

>>4704594
She'd probably lose fans, if anything.

>>4704043
see >>4679272

>>4671883
>>4704515
She's so cute and perfect... Just imagine having a gf like her. I'd be in heaven. My life would finally be worth living again... I need a gf like her so bad... It's so cruel and unfair that I can't have one.

>>4671430
Will Kizuna tweet something acknowledging Gura when inevitable Gura surpass her subs?

>>4678089
Are you a dumb nigger?

>>4702621
She is a loli and retweets and likes lewds of herself.

>>4707136
Gura would probably have panic attacks if Ai put her on a spotlight like that