/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>4687930
Jealous

t. schizo

>>4687930
ogey deadbrap, this is nothing compared to kiara

>>4687930
>boring and unprepared for genmate/senpai collabs
>beaming over anituber faggot collab
It’s a mystery

She's cringe

I dunno a vocal minority seems really butthurt about her.

There are nine hooks on your bait!
NINE

>>4687977
Shhhhhhhhhhhhh.

I just wished she can be as enthusiastic, prepared, and passionate for the collab with her genmates and Holos as much as some faggot anituber and randos. She looks like she completely disrespects hololive with her constant antics and unpreparedness with collab. She completely missed the point of Hololive and making the atmosphere very awkward with her clear lack of interests towards the other holos.

>>4688086
now say it in japanese.

/vt/ has no influence outside of 4chan so you don't have to wory about it. Kiara make this board seethe like hell, yet you barely can find any hate of her outside of this place.

>>4687930
>hated
Where?

>>4688331
Since when does the opinion of brainwashed normies matter around these parts?

>>4687930
Because she hates Hololive.

>>4688028
deadbraps will call you an idolfag over the fact she couldn't care less about her co-workers or senpai or her job as a vtuber in general

>>4687930
>4th biggest Holo
>non-conformist
>doesn't pretend Hololive is the center of her universe
That's about it, really.

>>4688431
The coco colab you zhangs love to shit on her for so much proves otherwise.

>>4688355
have you seen number threads

>>4687930
Chumbuds are snowflakes that get triggered over everything the pink and orange lady do.

>>4689021
but I thought chumbuds didn't care about other holos

>>4687930
Don't forget she's the first one from EN to agree on a meme review. I don't think Coco asked only Mori, that would be a shit move towards other ENers

>>4688355
>numbers matters
>but not when they disagree with me!
Go be a retard somewhere else.

>>4688028
Be ready to be called a idolfags by deadbraps

>>4689948
Calli wasting 1 hour of my fucking time because she didn't download and prepare fucking cuphead and thsn proceeding to spit in my face by being motivated to collab with literal cancer regardless of their gender does not make me an idolfag.

>>4687930
success breeds jealousy

>>4690031
Nobody cares. You are already wasting your life by watching vtubers.

>cuckbeats have to endure for ONE DAY what KFP went through for 8 months
lol

she think she is to cool for the kayfabe, Fucking ugly bitch, you're less than nothing without the anime avatar

>>4690158
OK deadbrap, enjoy your stockholm syndrome.

>>4690031
Sounds like it's you who wasted your time watching a wrecked collab. Don't push guilt on someone who's not aware of your existence.

>>4688431
I just hope they know that her music is legitimately awful and she'd be nowhere without Holo

>>4690182
based and hatepilled

deadbraps, brapping now
deadbraps, brapping now
deadbraps, brapping now
deadbraps, brapping now
We'll brap it out!!!
So when you bitches need me, call!!!
(By your side with my beans and red wine~)
I'll make 'em wish they never smelled at all!!!
(I'll stink 'em up, Gucci?)
Just leave it all to us, 'cause in the end
Just brap it, just brap it
Just leave it all to us

>>4687930
she's cringe and autistic, and not in a good way.
she associates with the other menhera in holoEn
she took advantage of Suisei's good intentions and leeched.
she doesn't care about being a hololive or being a vtuber and would drop it for a better opportunity.

>>4690182
well said anon, this is basically /thread

>>4690338
the only route left for this traitorous whore would be jav or facial abuse because she is one ugly bitch

>>4690158
>doing stuff you enjoy is wasting your life

>>4688466
maybe before calling someone a zhang spuriously, you learn how to not come off as an ESL retard-chama

>>4687930
I thought she's a nice hardworking girl but just cringe, I was wrong
She's worse than kiara

>>4690158
how cucked are you that you're justifying a scuffed stream entirely due to her fuck up? how do you have 0 standards for what you choose to watch deadbrapchama?

>>4690338
>she doesn't care about being a hololive or being a vtuber and would drop it for a better opportunity.
could someone elaborate on this?

Do you guys like Calli?

The only reason you keep talking about he rlike this is because you like her.

Personally, I want to see how far off the traveled path she can go and carve a unique position in Hololive

She gives me "I should've been successful outside of this stupid anime avatar and never have needed it" vibes and seems resentful for some reason

>>4690760
If by 'carving a unique position in Hololive' you mean becoming like any other Twitch streamer, then personally no I don't want to see that.

>>4689948
>>4688431
>>4690031
>idolfag
Lmao is this an insult now?
When I go to the theater I expect to see actors behave a certain way and uphold standards. If I wanted to see a movie, I'd go to the cinema.
When I watch hololive I expect talents to behave a certain way and uphold standards.
Simple as.

>>4690338
>she took advantage of Suisei's good intentions and leeched.
???. Also, don't bring other holos with you, faggot. If you schizos want to fight, do it yourselves

I don't mind her shitty collabs, low energy streams,... since she's a glorified v-"singer".
Collabing with a fucking anifaggot on her main hololive channel though is clearly over the line. She can go fuck herself.

>>4687930
Because schizos on this board don't like change.

>>4687930
she isn't outside of /vt/, this place is just weirdly specific on what potential collabs are good or bad

>>4690850
>hololive
>standards
pick one

>>4688355
>brainwashed
The rrat worms have infected you, anon. It's not too late to save yourself.

>>4690670
>>4690182

REALLY unpopular opinion this board isn't prepared for or can comprehend: people get tired of collaborating with those in your community. When you do those things a lot overtime, it can be hard to be as enthusiastic as before. So when she brings someone she's not used to spending time with, it's easier for her to be more enthusiastic and experience something different. It could also be a lot of other things too that we don't know about.

But of course, I don't expect schizos to believe any of this. They'll keep taking the rrat pill and call us "brainwashed". I'm prepared for the next salt thread.

>>4691612
> first time collab with Coco
> complete shitshow
suuuuureee...

>>4690236
nah, her music is the only good thing about her

>>4691612
>people get tired of collaborating with those in your community.
This is a lazy excuse when there's over 50 people she could talk to at any moments notice who speak either english, japanese or both
Maybe she could MAKE SOME FRIENDS IN HER COMPANY?

>>4691612
Ask me how I know you're 2020 ENfag.

Fags can't handle someone doing things im an interesting way instead of the same old shit everyone elae delivers.

They can't handle CM Punk (Calliope Mori Punk)

>>4691612
I'd fucking kill to be able to stream together with her genmates, especially Ame/Gura cuz they are memelords who can keep convo entertaining forever. Her coworkers are pretty nice and interesting people, unironically, they are tough to get tired of. And Calli does not collab often.

>>4687930
She reminds many anons of themselves.

>>4691612
>So when she brings someone she's not used to spending time with
>he doesn't know

>>4690850
>When I watch hololive I expect talents to behave a certain way and uphold standards. Simple as.
>Hololive
>Standards
So you're always disappointed, huh?

>>4691612
She's barely collaborated with anyone in the company though.

And it's always her first collab with most people that's the worst. This wasn't her first collab with this person. Or is ignoring the podcast they did the only way for your narrative to work now?

>imagine being an ENfag

>>4688028
>>4688431
>>4689948
How fucking much of a limp dick does one need to be to justify that?

>>4687930
>>4560554

If you are bothered by Calli's deviance I have bad news for you

>One of the primary diagnostic criteria for autism spectrum disorder (ASD) as outlined in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM-5) is that the individual shows restricted, repetitive patterns of behavior, interests, or activities. And one of the key items of evidence to support the diagnosis is an insistence on sameness and an inflexible adherence to routines

>>4690182
>>4690182
>>4690182
>>4690182

>>4692199
How do we kill autism?

>>4690182
>she think she is to cool for the kayfabe
the reddit meme review left a lot of sour taste in JP mouths too

>>4690182
Hope she reads this

>>4691612
>collab with someone new
>shitshow
>S-SHE'S JUST NERVOUS WITH NEW PEOPLE
>collab with genmate
>shitshow
>S-SHE'S JUST TIRED OF HER GENMATES

Deadbrappers have perfected denialism

>>4690850
Based

this tako saw through her bullshit early on

>>4687930

I'll take a wild fucking guess and bet it is because she is popular.

>>4687930
whore

>>4692350
He worships Ina, of course he has access to forbidden and vast knowledge.

>>4692322
Kyaru no!

>>4692350
does anyone have that image, or more edits in this style

>>4690760
>carve a unique position in Hololive
thats not how hololive, an idol based company works, and its not how idol culture in Japan works.
thats not even how successful Twitch streamers work.

>>4692225
You don't, become autist instead

>>4687930
She isn't, anitubers are .

>>4687930
She got lucky. There are more indie vtubers with more personality but sadly they don't get enough recognition. I can't even image someone like Mori to be as popular without a huge company backing them.

>>4692350
>sep 26
How did he know??

>>4691612
See anon this would make sense if she ever showed any prowess for collabing with hololive in the first place. Pretty much every collab shes done has been below average to terrible.
So has she been tired of collabing with her genmates from the start? Or what?
Or is the easier answer shes simply not very good at her job and sees her genmates and fellow coworkers as just a means to an end?
Its fine if thats the case but thats why I say shes not good at her job, which is to entertain, even if being fake.

>>4691612
>people get tired of collaborating with those in your community
She literally talks with these fuckers everyday in her personal time, it's not about collabing with the same people (which she doesn't do) it's about promoting her personal group of friends that one part of the community avoids like the plague

Here's what I'd do from a management perspective if I saw these cracks in Mori as a worker
Graduate her to INNK music label with Azki
She now loses her streaming quota end of the deal and can fuck off for weeks upon weeks at a time without 0 repercussion or anxiety
Hololive in return can start saying "Hey, look at this music label we run, check out our crazy viral hip hop talent Mori Calliope!"

>>4687930
Because she doesn't care about Hololive, and that's becoming increasingly obvious.

>>4692736
But according to this board indies are superior and there's no merit in joining Hololive..

>>4687930
Didn’t mori say she wanted/or at least expected to be hated lmao . When she first started . She’s getting her wish, or a taste of it now

>>4692350
When she said "I have no prior experience in streaming but I can rap and do music videos. My intention for coming into Hololive is to grow my music." in the interview, they should've placed her for the first solo VSinger/Myth. I would've taken any person to be the fifth member of EN 1 as long as she isn't another kiara.

>>4688331
0.2% dislike rate. That's pretty consistent. I think it's okay for Mori to collab with males as long as they are married or openly in relationship.

She's not, She was cover's ace English chuba that only got passed up when clout chasers attacked Gura and when Pewdepie gave Gura a shoutout (Also roommate migration)

>>4688000
>>4688315

If Kiara is so hated, why are her downvotes so low?

>>4690031
>>4690173
>>4690182
Leave the fandom, then. Go back to /v/

>>4693111
Kiara's only personality is that she's a lesbian.

>>4692696
Hololive has nothing to do with Idolfaggotry anymore. Seethe, discord tranny

>>4693218
If Kiara is so hated, why are her downvotes so low? Answer the question, Eggcel

>>4690182
Based

She's the least endearing type of autist which makes her content hard to watch unless you're an actual retard that's entertained by jiggling anime boobs. Though she wouldn't be nearly as hated on here if deadbeats weren't the way that they are.

>>4693198
>Deadbraps can't take divergent opinions.

>>4693274
ogey. would be a shame if all you had to do was go to covers own website.

She was already pretty big on the JP rapping scene before she was a Holo. Taiwan is an American colony. Seethe and cope, incel

>>4690182
Holy based

>>4693431
>Pretends not to be butthurt instead of saying "That sucks, I'll go back to something I actually enjoy"

It's not an opinion when you're just acting like a manchild. It's bitching.

>>4693500
>pretty big
Never happened

>>4693500
>She was already pretty big on the JP rapping scene before she was a Holo.
Lol no she was not

>>4693309
>>4693111
Dunno. Maybe her antis don't go out of their way to downvote her? Also anti culture is much easier in anonymous boards than any social media just to avoid rabid fans.

>>4688028
christ look at this low T schitzoid bullshit.

no matter how much you jerk it to an animated avatar she won't become real, and won't suck your dick. get a fucking life you retard.

>>4687930
Shes not just tribalniggers sperging out

>>4693603
She literally just went on tour with her group, chink

>>4693653
I guess she just ain't as hated as people pretend, eh?

>>4693908
No, but she is indeed hated around here, that's something.

>>4693869
My dad's band who played at a local bar did a tour, did they truly make it?

>No, but she is indeed hated around here, that's something

>>4693994
Nice meme /v/ro. You sure proved me wrong.

>>4693958
It's nothing. 4chan is dead, anon. An upward swing of x2 means nothing when the internet expanded x1000

>>4694039
>4chan is dead
Define "dead." /v/, /pol/ and /vg/ are pretty fast and crowded as ever.

>>4692350
takobros... I kneel

>>4693869
She made all kind of animations for free just to get their attention, retard. Now that she's the new big shit she appears on a song and is invited to a tour, but that's just people leeching off her.

She was a nobody before Holo, simple as.

>>4694089
This place is dead and died years ago, some newfags think they're apart of a big fish in a big pond but in reality Twitter, facebook, and reddit has more influence and genuine dangerous thinkers meanwhile most retards on here are LARPers

>>4694178
>Twitter, facebook, and reddit has more influence and genuine dangerous thinkers
Say one controversial thing on these normie infested sites and you're dead. Legit NPCs talking to each other. Also, whatever shit happend people go to /b/ and /pol/ to get info not facebook and fucking twitter.

>>4694339
You realize there's legit like, nazi subreddits right, and they exist everyday without consequence
There's also facebook groups with 10s of thousands of members who just spam conspiracies and propaganda and then those are shared to their family and friends
This place may have contributed to poisoning the well, but those 3 places are dumping the toxins into the ocean

>>4694422
>You realize there's legit like, nazi subreddits right, and they exist everyday without consequence
Haven't they been very strict on banning those kinds of subreddits? I remember that controversy of an ironic hydration enthusiasm subreddit getting banned for the name waterniggas.

>>4694339
I'm a newfag from 2010. 4chan is dead.

>Boomer wumao coming to 4chan and creating rrats thinking it's still influential

>Nice meme /v/ro. You sure proved me wrong.

>>4694996
Epic image /v/ro. You sure proved me wrong.

>>4687930
Dude what? I think she is right after Ina with hate.
She is everyone best boomer dad.

>>4692228
Why are you lying? They like her more than ever.

>Why are you lying? They like her more than ever.

>>4694996
>>4695353
Mental illness?

>>4692350
the tiers was my signal too. T7 is fucking crazy

>>4693198
>Go back to /v/
I've noticed kfp and mori's base attack /pol/ and /v/ for no reason. why is this?

>>4693500
>She was already pretty big on the JP rapping scene
have you listened to her and her views on her vids? they're horrible, kek

>>4687930
Shes not, it's just one schizo.

she brought it on herself

>>Go back to /v/
>I've noticed kfp and mori's base attack /pol/ and /v/ for no reason. why is this?

>>4687930
what the... in which world is she even hated

>>4695748
oh no no no... i thought t7 was a joke...

>>4694178
do you want me to guess your politics, tranny?
its obvious you're still mad 4ch supports Trump and helped him win so you want to downplay it. I get the insecurity just dont be obvious about it

>>4693768
kys ironic weeb

>do you want me to guess your politics, tranny?
>its obvious you're still mad 4ch supports Trump and helped him win so you want to downplay it. I get the insecurity just dont be obvious about it

>>4690182
this is actually true...

>>4696018
>>4695911
Legit mental illness.

>>4695947
how's orange man's blog doing? oh he shut it down already? :^)

>>4693198
imagine saying fandom unironically

>Legit mental illness

>>4696092
>proves me right on his politics and admits to downplaying 4ch and Trump still lives rent free
you can never touch Trump on 4ch, he's the human form of it. every post you make complaining about /v/ or /pol/ you out yourself. every post you downplay that 4ch is useless, you out yourself.

thanks for confirming your gender and politics btw. made my point easier to lurkers.

>>4696220
Thanks for proving that you're a tranny.

>>4696258
was for
>>4696092

>>4690182
based and thotpatrolpilled

>>4694422
delusional

>>4687930
because of chud incels

>>4690182
>she think she is to cool for the kayfabe
But she is uses her kayfabe really well.

>>4695947
4chan was a leftist website up until 2008

>>4696369
Reality isn't delusion, pretending there isn't facebook groups radicalizing your grandpa with dementia is the real delusion

>>4695876
damn, how is that ONE schizo orchestrating thousands of posts all over the place

>>4687930
If you want honesty, I hate her because she has repeatedly been told how to solve her stream problems and refuses to take the advice and blatantly at this point has shown no desire to change or improve on that front. It's also becoming increasingly obvious that she doesn't care or want to care about anything other than rap or collabs with literal who anitubers.

>>4687930
genuine mental illness and/or memeing kids pretending to hate her for (you)'

>>4692562
Sorry, Kyaru and I like to smoke some clove cigs so Pecorine can taste them on our breath when we double-team her.

>>4687930
Only around here by a vocal minority. They'll be humiliated like always.

>>4697466
>mori gets yet another meltdown and has a week break

>>4696746
But what if she will have same energy in her next Coco collab which is on Tuesday?

>>4697935
Then I kneel, but Do You Really Believe?
I don't habeeb it.

>>4697935
sou desu ne, naruhodo ne

>>4687930
NARUHODO NE

>>4687930
Her own actions.

>>4692025
A real dope!

>>4687930
I don't really see any hate for Mori outside of this board.
She's pretty cute and super talented, I don't see any good reason to hate her.

>>4699775
Reddit has a few posts that have circulated but the threads get closed/deleted and the comments downvoted to oblivion and 30 replies of "STOP TELLING HER TO LEAVE HOLOLIVE LET HER COLLAB WITH MALES YOU INCEL", even the ones just complaining that she should have better energy on other streams.
Youtube comments are completely fucked and you have to sort by Most Recent to even have a CHANCE to see the comments criticizing her. There's also the Akasupa that was blatantly deleted for criticizing Mori. I'm sure it wasn't the only comment or even the only Superchat that was given that treatment.
Twitter has detractors but most of them are getting hugbox'd out since Mori's posting positivity about getting good sleep and shit.
/vt/ is unironically the only place to get anything close to honest opinions, and it's a rrat-infested hellhole with a flock of reddit tourists.

Remember:
>I hate you all and the only reason I'm here is because everywhere else is even more retarded.

>>4687930
The gist seems to be that she shows more regard and enthusiasm for streaming not with her genmates or others within the hololive family but rather for an anituber who has done nothing for the past decade but lurk /a/ and regurgitate and bowdlerize memes and opinions for leddit normalfags.

>>4687930
Man you guys really don't understand Calli do you? Here's how it works. Calli is a socially awkward wigger weeb with no self confidence and imposter syndrome. She's the kind of person who will awkwardly tell a joke and then laugh at her own joke to make sure that people know it's a joke. She might even throw in a meek, "Did you get it?" afterwards and then immediately silently berate herself. She hates awkward silences and will try to fill them. She seeks approval and confirmation but she's also dense as fuck so even if people are giving her approval and confirmation and praise, she wouldn't be able to tell and the few times she is able to tell, she doesn't believe them because of her low self esteem. And this is all how she is in her normal life.
As a Vtuber? An entertainer, a presenter with literally thousands of eyes on her? Ohh boy. She will also feel extra pressure to perform in a collab because it's not just her, it's her colleagues and she's worried about messing up in front of them and also for them and their fans, in addition to her own. So she will try too hard and then cringe and then there will be a lull while she silently tells herself that she is an idiot, and a moron, and stupid, and there will always be a lull because Gura is a non entity in collabs right now and Ame can't always carry everything. Eventually Calli will stop beating herself up long enough to realize "OH GOD NOTHING IS HAPPENING ALL THESE PEOPLE ARE WATCHING AND EXPECTING US TO ENTERTAIN THEM THEY GAVE US SO MUCH MONEY, I DON'T DESERVE THIS" and so she'll launch right into the fray again the only way she knows how, by talking energetically and also taking care to enunciate things and describe them for the ESL audience since she used to be an English Teacher. Occasionally she will become genuinely amused or tilted at something in game and that will slip through, but because she's a sperg, her genuine emotions will still be as awkward as her forced ones.
Then when the collab/stream ends, she will collapse on her bed silently weeping and thinking about all the things she could have done better. She'll think about her fellow rapper from whom she heard about the Hololive auditions and feel guilty for taking their shot, they wanted it so much more than she did, she just applied on a whim, and even though they told her it was okay, it's not REALLY okay, they are just saying that to be nice because they are a good person unlike me because I'm such a piece of shit for stealing my friend's dream and I deserve to die.
Then she drinks and cries herself to sleep.

>>4701122
>Honest
Biased. This board is made for hate and it's on fire everytime something as significant as literally she had one good collab and it's not with other hololivers, which if not /vt/ I wouldn't ever know. 90% of watchers don't give a shit as well. You're just crazy hololive fans and your opinion is not critical.

>>4701789
>This board is made for hate
Darkness is the heart's true essence.

>>4701789
It's late night here let me fix it god
>as significant
as insignificant
>as she had one good collab
as one good collab happens
>watchers
viewers

>>4701520
Hey, I've read this before. Where's the part two?

>>4690850
Hololive is literally just streaming with stupid whores behind anime faces. There are no "Standards" you have deluded yourself. More importantly, it's hilarious that people will intentionally watch someone that makes them mad and then complain about it. You could just no watch you know? Or do you have some schizo slippery slope conspiracy about how this is going to force your oshi to stream with e-celebs you hate?

She has no fucking chemistry and is more interested in being a solo streamer than part of hololive.

She gets more excited about external collabs, and sponsorships than streaming with her genmates or anyone in Hololive for that matter. The only times she plays with HoloEN at all it doesn't seem to be her idea at all and she totally phones it in.

That's not to say she doesn't put in work, but it's work that solely advances HER career and her interests. She doesn't care about the bigger picture of HoloEN or Hololive as a whole.

People hate on Kiara for being a selfish diva but Mori actually is one.

>>4690850
Actually holobased bro. Also when I come to local supermarket I expect cashier to give me money and lick my ass.
Simple as.

>>4687930
Not a moeblob loli

>>4687930
Because her delusional fans keep making bait posts.

>>4694885
We do not forget
We do not forgive
Expecto Patronus

>>4701520
I still don't know if this is a fan or anti pasta

>>4687930
She gave no fuck to purityfags, and interacting with male again and again make them feel cucked

>>4703608
t.deadbeat

>>4703608
We just don't like anitubers, you tranny

>>4692835
this unironically is the best thing to do

>>4692835
Last time somebody was in INNK that wasn't AZKi they were neglected so bad that Hololive was forced to take them in so that they could actually be a musician and not starve with no work.

>>4687930
She still has a lot of fans and receives a lot more love than hate.

>>4707006
It's a shame she's a female so she'll break down when she sees the 1k dislikes and comments

>>4690850
based
newfags will hate you but you are right, there's a reason why hololive is more popular than nijisanji but redditors will never admit it

>>4706267
Since then INNK has been moved under the Hololive Productions banner as of December, 2019

>>4687930
Both Kiara and Mori get hate because how they behave during collabs, but Mori got away with it becuse she had a shitty timezone and the chicken over shadowed her, but because Mori never improve herself she got the spotlight currently

>>4688855
That’s a stupid argument. Most numberfags in this shithole are sharkfags. You only numberfag if you actually like the Holo you’re numberfagging for. Look at Kiara. Reached 1 million subscribers and none of the numberfags in that general cares, but when Ina got 1 million, they actually celebrated. You’re retarded if you think numberfags will numberfag for someone they hate.
Opinions change, nigger. Mori obviously pissed off some anon to change opinions.

>>4690031
>>4690760
>>4691982
>>4692199
>calli

>low iq subhumans get mad when people watching IDOLS expect IDOLS and IDOL accessories
>Huuurrr fucking idolfags watching idols from and idol agency, fucking unicorns duuurrrrr
inb4 cope

I don't hate her, but if she's not wholly invested in what she's doing, it gets really hard to watch. The 1-word replies, the dead air, the "I really wish I weren't here right now" button. I feel uncomfortable. I don't give a shit about rrats about why she acts this way, it's all the same.

I'm super looking forward to the TTRPG saga unfolding. I want to see what fully-invested Calli looks and sounds like.

>>4687930

For many, many valid reasons

>>4716704
But I'm not watching an Idol, I'm watching a rapping reaper streaming video games and drinking wine. If you want idols go back to whatever generic bitch you were watching before and stop trying to ruin someone with actual appeal.

deadbeats right now

For good reason of course

>>4703608
I'm literally gay and I like Mori. Why should I feel threatened by her interacting with a guy she has a one in a million chance of sleeping with?

>>4720256
Mori is the very definition of basic bitch. Idols are an accomplishment. It takes effort and skill to be one. And hard work.

Mori truly is just a generic western roastie and there's nothing, absolutely nothing outside of that to her. Her hatred of being in Hololive proves that beyond any doubt, and judging from your post you don't have any sort of interest in this either.

>>4688441
It is unironically the center of her universe. Her entire life currently revolves around it and she's too stupid to realize that.

>>4716704
Mori isn't a dancer like Miko or Korone. She's just a music artist with vocal talent.

>>4720936
It's even worse than that. She doesn't realize that without Hololive she has nothing and is nothing.

>>4720564
I'm glad she is getting these as SC.
Maybe it will get through to her.. one can only hope.

It doesn't matter if normies love her
We're on /vt/, not on twitter
She used to be loved here and now she's going to always be controversial like Kiara or Cloutnners
It's over

>>4720927
>Mori truly is just a generic western roastie and there's nothing, absolutely nothing outside of that to her.
She's a self taught artist, music composer, and singer. Do not fucking dare compare her to cunts like Pokimane.

>>4721008
Fuck off. She was successfull before Hololive, that's literally the reason she was hired.

>>4693198
Why should he leave when Mori is the one not playing by the rules
She should fuck off and assimilate with the Vshojo circle if Hololive is holding her back so badly

>>4721116
>self taught artist
She went to college for that shit

>>4721048
Doubt. Especially since she's a stronk independent wahman

>>4721173
>Successful before Hololive
>Mentions performing for 5 people as an opening act
>Mentions getting booed off the stage

It was funny when she didn't recognize Mel during the Meme Review and just called her senpai after waffling for a moment.

>>4721173
>10k subs
>successful

>>4721268
>Mentions getting booed off the stage
Haha
Based audience

>>4721093
No. SHE used to be loved on /a/ and /mu/ you retard. She doesn't even know about this board or that niggers like you exist and if she did, it'd be through that asshole vt_takes on twitter.

>>4721093
This is the correct answer. Fact of the matter is most people dont care about what happened and are happy with it. Reddit and Twitter still love her. Even here she has supporters throughout this. Honestly though anon, we wont know if the controversy stays until the next Holo collab. If she stays energetic it'll die. If not, then she'll just have to deal with having a screeching following of people that hate her in the vocal minority.

>>4721268
Do people forget that Hololive and Vtubers in general are just the dumping grounds for people who have some amount of talent but couldn't make the cut irl? The thing about Mori is that once hololive is done so is she. If she doesn't make it through her vtuber career gracefully she'll be haunted by her failures instead of proud of her success once she's forced back into literal who status

>>4721405
>Mori
>Liked on /mu/

Its like the one board here that actually lives rent free in her head. She got caught self promoting and laughed out once, and she is still salty that they didn't like AO's mixing on her tracks.

>>4721405
>SHE used to be loved on /a/ and /mu/

>>4721405
What the hell are you talking about anymore lmao

>>4721526
>She got caught self promoting and laughed out once
kek, i wish i was there to see this

>>4721625
I'm saying your opinions don't matter. None of our opinions matter. Because outside this is all seen as schizo bullshit with no real impact on the vtuber community.

>>4721640
It's funny because it's totally believable
100% the modus operandi
She was so fucking lucky to get into hololive, nobody gave a fuck about her otherwise, and she's lamenting it and using this awful bubble to boost herself

>>4687930
shitty "music", doesn't even seem like she likes being a vtuber, any of the nijiEN could replace her and maximize the hololive name better

>>4721318
Oh you’re fucking joking. I could only stand to watch a few minutes. Mel doesn’t deserve to be done dirty like that.

>>4693111
because we don't even want to interact with anything involving her (except her collabs with nene because nene hardcarries those)

>>4721093
You tricked me good retard, I thought you had made a sensible take and I had to delete my original message. Reddit and Twitter still love her. Shit, some people here still love her. You think its over because a few hundred people here chimped out when there are almost 1.5 million people that still support her? Dont delude yourself anon. Shes still going strong, and looking at the trends, will pass Korone and Pekora for the #2 spot in hololive subs wise. She's going to be just fine.

>>4721710
You'd be surprised
The talents themselves know twitter is just filled with yes men who won't say anything but praise

>>4721845
If it's just bait then why are you frothing at it
And you already read my post, this isn't reddit or twitter, i don't give a fuck what cunts on twitter are talking about

>>4721173
>no live streaming experience
>no people skills
Lol the Niggerofnipon is the definition of a diversity hire. She was litteraly hired just so Cover can fill the rap + stereotypical gaijin in Japan niche.

>>4721934
Oh I never said it was bait, even if it might be. What exactly were you talking about with "Its over" then? You werent talking about popularity apparently. You werent talking about overall support apparently. Her reputation is "over" here perhaps? Who even cares about that?

>>4721268
kek

>>4696477

>>4691774
>"music"
i would rather listen to actual niggers

>>4721526
AO's mixes are not that good. you got any post numbers for that? I can't find anything in the archives.

>>4690850
based and kinopilled

>>4720936
Do you care about your own job that much?

>>4690850
>Hololive
>Standards
You fucking retard

>>4720927
Yes, it takes hard work to make it as an Idol. It takes a lot more to actually be memorable and not just #16 out if the NTR 48 who will burn out under a year and be forgotten immediately after graduation. Idols aint shit, and any that are become so much more later on.

>>4692882
don't listen to the indiefags, the only way they'd get popular is being related to holo or a big niji
though i do admit popular =/= better

>>4693161
only if civia is shilling it through song

>>4722608
He's probably American, they're taught that the more of yourself you give freely to your corporate master the more pious person you are.

>>4722608
No and I chose to become homeless instead of putting up with my employers bullshit. But don't pretend like any normal person can be compared to Mori's situation. She'd get success and support without even having to try and would rather tear down the company that is giving her everything because she feels like she's "in a bubble" than just quit. At this rate she'll crumble into a ptsd riddled mess once she loses the support of her fans even if she's financially set for life

>>4720979
why are deadbraps' ears broken

>>4722992
Mori is american too you retard she's just living in japan. Even then she practically isn't since she apparently has barely learned anything about the language or culture

>spends all day/night getting accused of not giving a shit about her genmates or Hololive
>immediately does a lovey dovey feel-good ASMR stream drawing her and her genmates in a group hug
clever girl

I'm just gonna answer the most honest question you retards want to hear
>Will Kiara or Mori gradulate based on the way things are headed?
Unless they act like snakes like Hitomi Chris did and violate their contracts, I don't see it happening because it seems extremely unlikely. A-chan seems to give almost everything Mori does the grennlight. Her liking the Gigguk tweet heavily implies this.
>Should we be scared of westerners invading Hololive?
No. Despite what RRATS have claimed and pulled out of their ass, Hololive is a talent agency, not a foot stole for political propaganda and content creators like Gigguk, Connor, The Anime Man, and Nux Taku will be forced to comply and keep their traps shut.
>What about those whores from Vshojo?!
Literally what the fuck can Nyanners, Vei, or Froot do to ruin it aside from unfunny collabs? They have no power over Cover. Kiara isn't gonna suddenly start getting political on twitter every 5 mins talking about how cops are pigs or spouting trans rights or some shit. If they do by chance collab, they'll be forced to come up with new material and actually TRY to be funny. Thankfully Ironmouse is good at that on her own based on her interactions with her Vshojo mates and her possible BF Connor.
>Will anything change regarding Hololive?
Unlikely. Like there's a 0.1% chance of anything too YAB ever happening or that anything revolving Cover will change regarding their rules about what their talents can and can't do.

Hololive isn't a bubble that's going to pop when outsiders get too close. It's a dome that keeps its' talents from becoming like westoid outsiders. Cover's terms are irreversible and a bunch of retarded ironic weeb otaku fuckboys aren't going to change their mind on that.

>>4723271
The final yab already happened anon. In case you haven't noticed we're already on the decline and have been for months. You need to look past whether there will be any major yabs in the next couple of week/months and focus on how each little inch given is collapsing the dome

Mori forcing Gura to collab with anitubers when? I wonder how chumbuds would react

>>4687930
I will forgive her only once she goes on a stream and names, from memory only, every single hololive member with their respective generations. Bonus points if she can name their fanbases. Otherwise she should just graduate or become indie.

>>4722608
I would if I was making $1000/hr.

>>4723271
>content creators like Gigguk, Connor, The Anime Man, and Nux Taku will be forced to comply and keep their traps shut
lol

>>4723148
She learned enough to cancel out the bullshit about living for your company, apparently.

>>4723452

People here seem to forget that Gigguk basically works for Kadokawa, a company that is way bigger than Cover.

Like he's not gonna start talking politics in collabs (why would he?) but people out here acting as if Gigguk has to toe the line for Cover are wild.

>>4723452
What the fuck else can they do? Hololive is anti-politics. Why do you think Ame was so fucking scared and nervous during her L.A. Noire playthrough?

>>4723434
This is what actual, unironic cuckoldery looks like.

Nobody is answering the questions I actually have about Mori:
>How fucking hard is it to install a game and boot it up BEFORE your collab?
>How fucking hard is it to check with management before confirming a stream that you 100% have permissions for that stream?
>How fucking hard is it to sleep the night before you have a stream so that you're awake for the collab the next day?
>How fucking hard is it to do a basic tech check before the stream starts?
These are basic due diligence tasks for the job that is directly responsible for your current fame. If you can't do the job, quit. There's a line of people that would kill to have Mori's position, and some of them might actually do the job better.

I'm pissed at other shit too, but maybe that's just my personal hangups. This stuff is actually important and highly indicative of somebody that wants out the door but doesn't want to give up the money.

>>4721173
>person who lived in a $200 hut in japan
You can be more successful frying burgers, and that is a reality since she was an english teacher, the lowest of the low of miserable jobs

>>4723609
>How fucking hard is it to sleep the night before you have a stream so that you're awake for the collab the next day?
Hahaha yeah thats so true like why would anyone be that stupid to not sleep before an important day, like not me hahahahahahahahahaha

>>4723271
based sanford anon..... my knees are bending on their own

>>4723609
The sleep thing I can understand, my body wakes me the fuck up randomly and I cannot fall back asleep for the life of me. The rest is just her being a retard.

>>4723817
Given what happened with the WoD permissions, I don't know if shes fully to blame on all that either.
I'd also like to say that last one is just "shit happens" but I'm not a streaming expert.

>>4720256
>>4720979
>IDOL from an IDOL agency
>wtf shes not and idol shes a white nigger fuck off incel lmao

>>4687930
What does she do to avoid being hated?

>>4692350
TakoCHADS...... I KNEEL.......

>>4724218
>WoD permissions
You mean how Mori didn't get permissions and assumed, like a lot of /vt/ does, that she can just use the generic rules set up on the site for indie streamers? And then when management called her out she bitched on a members' stream about it and got Paradox to speedrun permissions for her in an hour?
She commissioned multiple art assets and BG tracks for that stream. That shit takes time. She could've shot Paradox an email like 30 times in that interval. I bet she actually hasn't asked Atlus directly for permissions, either, just ran a stream for 3 hours where she begged. Y'know what Atlus said in response to that stream?
>Nobody asked us. We haven't heard shit. We don't even know who she is or why she'd be asking. But we'll look into it.

Mori refuses to do basic aspects of her job because she's too busy trying to wing it.

>>4724371
Not her job to do that, it's Cover's and Cover can't get a single thing right because of how incompetent they are. Mori would unironically do a better job running the company than yagoo does

>>4723271
i'd think the same if i didn't see it happen to dozens of hobbies

>>4724513
Girl who couldn't even handle her own life and lived on a miserable apartment with a miserable job handling a company? Cover would crumble the next day

>>4701879
no, the kingdom hearts is not darkness... it's light!

>>4692350
We should have listened..

>>4724683
She was pretty famous on her own already no matter what haters say, girl's got real talent and would've been recognized for it sooner or later. Hololive should be glad she picked them as her big break, not the other way around.

>>4692350
Takodamus-san I kneel

>>4724513
She still didn't confirm that she had permissions before arranging the collab and putting it on her schedule. Mori has more public cancellations and reschedules due to Permissions than any other EN, because the rest of them don't confirm the game until they confirm permissions. If Paradox hadn't literally been there, or if she hadn't talked about it in that members' stream, TTRPG would be another notch on the belt. Just another scuffed collab.

Again, how hard is it to ask management "Hey I want to do that stream I've been planning for months. We got permissions, right? I want to put it on the schedule."?

>>4724755
Clearly not famous enough to give her a lifestyle with dignity, and please in japan she was never going to be successful, the competition is gigantic and she was in a incredibly small niche

Botan and Towa fucked up a RE6 clloab, but nobody talks about it. But Calli is a bitch.
This is most sperged board. Its not funny, not creative and with 0 INT. I have never thought that i will see a board more cursed than /vp/

>>4692350
>Be Mexichad
>Look up Mori's membership tiers
>¥400 or $500 pesos
wtf ¥500 are like $100 pesos, what is this?

>>4724934
Towa got shat on hard even by her fans, she still has the reputation to cancel collabs out of nowhere because of those collabs, where the fuck have you been?

>>4724997
Its youtube thing

>>4724934
Fucking up a collab is not a sin. As another anon said, shit does just happen. Mori is going a step beyond and refusing to acknowledge that shit CAN and WILL happen and working to prevent it.
Calli is literally saying that the EN Curse can do what it wants and that she doesn't care.

>>4724934
Koone mess up ton of stream, even the one with Miko but she know how to make it entertaining unlike SOMEBODY being all passive aggressive and wipe all the trace.

>>4724822
Again, it's management's job to pay attention to her needs, they should be proactive about these things, jesus holy Christ Mori's already super busy with all her songs and other stuff she has to do, she makes more songs than any other vtuber and doesn't have time for this menial crap. Stop blaming her when management doesn't do their jobs

>>4725233
It's one message. "Hey, can I see this?" That's it.

>>4725233
Mori posts the schedule, not management.
Yes, management should be covering these things, but at the end of the day it's Mori's job to make sure she can actually do her job.

>Mori gets a couple bad days on this board every so often
>Mostly deserves it
>OMG WHY DOES MORI GET SO MUCH HATE
Why are deadbeats so frail?

>>4725427
I dont even watch her, but you guys assblasted to the orbit somehow. Its funny to watch

>>4690338
>she doesn't care about being a hololive or being a vtuber and would drop it for a better opportunity
Yeeeah... totally sure that every other hololive/vtuber think they are born with the only purpose of being vtubers and would not trade it for anything else in existance.

>>4725489
Most of them were streamers or utaites, they're basically doing the same thing but with an avatar, maybe the utaites would want to be actual idols but anyone in hololive is happy to be in hololive (except for shion but she wants to be a fucking neet)

>>4725392
That's the same excuse every terrible employer gives. Are you saying cover is shit, anon?

>>4726077
>Having to ask whether or not cover is shit

How fucking new?

>>4694422
name 1

>>4725427
Because it's really easy to post a thread like this while pretending to be something you're not.

>>4726108
I'm am oldfag, I've been here since EN.

>>4692322

Nice carl

I'm starting to hate her because you faggots can't keep it to one general. Half of the threads created today have the pink haired reaper as the OP image

>>4726077
If Cover is really so shit a company that they can't pull it together, why are the other talents having a fraction of the issues Mori is?
Could it be that Mori attempting to push so many boundaries is causing conflict with Management, who is unprepared for the situations presented?

>>4726311
The other talents are having as much problems as Mori is, do you even watch hololive?

>>4726368
COPE AND SEETHE MORE

>>4726397
Not OP but you're really stretching the word seethe here

>>4725427
They are newbeats. They weren't on /hlgg/ when TT arc was going.

>>4726368
Do you? Mori has the most low-energy collabs of any Holo, has the most tech issues of any HoloEN, and has the most streams cancelled or rescheduled due to Permissions fuckery than any HoloEN.

>>4690182
Based

>>4726311
Nope, that's exactly a big part of Mori I enjoy. She's doing things differently and its exciting. But that only excuses so much, and I would draw at least some part of the line at "Never secured permissions for a game that there has been a gen wide collab planned for for months".
I'd honestly be a bit more inclined to your point of view of it wasn't for that, since that potentially fucks over all five girls and the sheer time frame presented. It's their job and obligation to any talent, making sure the asked for tools are provided.

>>4691612
This would be true if not for all of her collabs being absolute dog shit. Genuinely feel bad for the rest of her Genmates for having to interact with her during collabs and single-handedly have to carry the entire stream. Mori should stick to her nigger music and stop fucking collabbing. At least the dumb chicken whore can make the collab interesting.

>>4726501
Plenty of other holos that have the same exact issues because Cover are retarded, Mori just gets fucked over more because they treat EN like a red-headed stepchild

I never really watch EN streams, but i tried watching her drawing stream today. I gotta say that she seems rather cunning. The way she speaks with her audience, the way she constantly uses empathic vernacular such as constantly calling her chat "deadbeats" (no other holo consistently calls her chat by their fanbase name), and talking in a way that makes the stream feel like a one-on-one conversation. She has her fans wrapped around her finger, but in a way that is really different from, for example, Rushia does it. And her chat is a clear reflection of this because fuck, her chat is fucking weird. No other way to describe it. It's not like the usual gachi-filled chatrooms you get from Rushia's zatsudan streams, it's a differnt kind of weird. It's like everyone is wrapped up in this idea of a community, and consistently trying to enforce it. It feels like a bubble and it's filled with weirdos.

>>4727132
reminds me of this

>>4728138
this is fucking sickining. im choosing to beleive this faggot's wife cucked him than divorced him

>>4726797
Cope.She has problems because she is lazy and doesn't bother to test things before she tries them.And she doesn't care about Hololive either.She didn't even bother to learn the names of the jp holos months after she joined.

>>4687930
>Why is she so hated?
shes not

>>4728195
I wouldn't believe everything i see on the internet, anon.

>>4727132
You are trying to make her worse than she really is.

>>4692488
Guess thats why everyone hates Gura, oh wait

>>4728138
LET'S GOOOOOOO
thank god holos don't enforce this kind of behaviour

>>4728365
Nor really. If anything, having a good degree of control over your fans is a good thing. Fanbases need to be tard-wrangled.

>>4726169
草

>>4726219
all according to keikaku

>>4695869
links?

>>4696220
go back

>>4690850
based

>>4690850
ベイスド