/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

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>>46869063

So where does Kawaii go from here?

>>46869161
They'll announce shutdown before the concert

this is strangely sexual

this is why i have a lot of respect for charzu

>>46869013
As a dedicated cloudtomo and whale i duno what id do with my life, tho id definitely follow her where ever she goes. I cant lose nene

>>46869222
Based little sister, stronger than me

I like Charlotte.

>>46869222
that's my imouto

>>46869222
I'll never take a vtuber who does her job for granted again. Not after today. Thanks for streaming, Charzu

>>46869322
Always depends on the reason

>>46869222
based and fuck lazy whores

>>46869332

>>46869222
I kneel.

>>46869222
First charzu stream I catch because as a EUbro I usually can't. Tonight I am not sleeping anyway.

>>46869222
Noooooooooo you're supposed to cancel your stream or else the Gen3 cucks will claim you don't caaaaare

>>46869222
Based Charzu.

>G*z* full week a streams as soon as Sava is kill
just a coincidence bros, nothing to see

>>46869101
Biggest reason why I don't trust her. I defended her because I thought she had difficulty setting up in Norway for streaming. Even if she knows she's about to leave, she should have put some effort on some good streams for the Sava's fans who were waiting for her or expecting her. There's no point in cancelling stream as protest against management because she already made decision to leave for more than week and such protest already hurt her fan in the first place.
She just wants to gatekeep, but in a bad way. In her eyes, only the gaogetters who follow her to PL are the "real fans" because they don't question her decision any bit at all.

>>46869161
Why are you posting this in every thread? It feels like you don't care about the answer and you just want attention.

>>46869399
This is the sane answer but Nene isn't going anywhere. It's clear she sees Production Kawaii as an extension of herself. For her to leave I imagine Production Kawaii would have to be literally disbanding.

>>46869399
Fair if it ended up being a bf yab or some inner circle behavior id probably drop vtubers all together and become free myself of this prison

>>46869398
I've been thinking about this today. I always figured she deleted the Christmas stream because she was embarrassed to love her fans, but now I wonder if it's because she felt guilty and ashamed of the words she spoke while she had her mind on her abandoning everyone.

Shee is about to eat the Mac and cheese

kek

>>46869658
>ashamed of the words
What did she say?

lol nene

CHARZU ABOUT TO FLAME GEN3 GRIFTERS

Charzu is a DRAMA CHANNEL now

I need more suzucoins

charzu sounds like she aged 50 years in one day

Charzu seeming actually professional tonight, what the hell

>>46869727
That she wanted to get pregnant and will leave vtubing one day

>>46869222
I'm going to watch this little sister now

It is fine for fans to shit on gen3 whey they left, because most people are NPCs that listen to whatever the corpo says, however I hate it when the talents does this
>don't join our corpo if you just gonna leave in a few months
They never viewed gen3 as their coworkers. Not a single word of good will and encouragement. And you said that millennials are less entitled than zoomers but I failed to see that as a case because every time this kind of thing happen they will talk about how it affects their mental health, mememe all around.

>>46869867
She's not playing a character today

>>46869888
go back Elia, Gezu.

Nami's sweaty smelly armpits.
are we not going to use >>46851811

>>46869888
They did and tried everything to make them stay. they still choose to quit, Nami was right to say what she said.

>>46869888
fuck you bitch backstabbers get no mercy they got off easy

>>46869888
Thats absolutely not true after O**** got tossed you could see the unity, the girls had no ill will towards gen 3 in any way and actually wanted to help them.

i want to hug charzu

>>46869888
They are ready to extend help when the girls in the company. Gen 3 left in a way that actively hurt gen 1 and 2 in multiple ways, especially with the 3d concert coming up.

>>46869888
You're on crack. Every interaction I've seen between Gen 3 and their senpai have been supportive and loving.

>>46870046
>tried everything
dyrbi? Also it left a bad taste in my mouth when every time someone left there is always a public shaming stream that follows. Can't the company just let them leave in good faith?

neena was right

>>46870151
Yeah Oceane's interaction was positive too before everyone fucking murdered her. These bitches wear masks.

Imouto is cute

>Charzu left all comments up
>except the one calling her voice uwu cutesy voice
based

>>46870154
They had a valid and well explained reason for that every time.

>>46870154
The fact that they decided to go on strike with no explanation (which hurts the fans the most) is all the proof I need that Gen 3 was operating in bad faith.
Negotiations behind the scenes? Drama with the corp? You're supposed to be professionals, leave the fans out of your spat.

>>46870154
They did for Hana and also planned a nice graduation for Neena and Aruru but both of them went out of their way to fuck it up. I'm sure gen 3 explicitly refuse a graduation/good bye to spite management/corpo as well.

>>46870250
Not really lol, she was pretty much completely ignored by the rest of the company for most of the time she was active

charzu ripping into letti lol

>>46870154
>mass graduation will be massive PR damage for Kawaii
>"yeah bros, they were right to leave, we are a black company"
hi fegzu

Charzu Gyaru voice, my dick is so hard

>>46870394
this is not how i wanted to get lotte back

>>46870319
>every time
Because you guys will excuse everything they did and attack everyone for their sack, including those who left.

>>46870258
I dug through the comments and she actually didn't delete it, it's still there.

multiple color charzus now

>>46870333
>stop using the only leverage you have
Great plan for a strike

Charzu is proving once again that she's the greatest comedic mind of her generation.

>>46870154
>totally just let them threaten the company and get away with it bro

>>46870392
Should've just cite "creative difference" instead of petty "oh no they are asking for a meeting at 3AM look at how evil they are" announcement.

>>46870154
What shame pretty much all the girls said they wanted them to stay an tried to help, i saw no shade just sadness from the girls over this

Charzu consensual sex

>hana graduated because PK acted like they could get her a visa in japan, then reneged
>aruru graduated because PK wouldn't let her take time off for illness
>neena graduated because she wanted a bigger cut of her rapidly growing channel
>oceane graduated only after months of harassing other talents because the company looked the other way since she was bringing them money
>gen 3 graduated most likely because of the previously mentioned issues with management and probably the cut taken from their pay without any intention of investing in their 3D
The Gen 1 and 2 girls, sans maybe nene and lua, don't care because they're part-timing for fun anyway. It's just a hobby to them, which is why they wouldn't give a fuck if their meagre earnings are japan-taxed to oblivion.

I wouldn't call it a black company but like most small companies it's clearly lacking in responsive, professional management and suffers for it.

telling people to donate to shee. cute imouto

>>46870572
>employees have an edge against corpo in a negotiation, ever
ruru

I think Charzu is ripping into Aletta irl lore but also maybe not

charzu and nami are a blessing on this earth

>Deny your current fans a graduation stream
>Start your indie activities as soon as the announcement goes public
>profit?

>>46870446
>girls fired for not streaming and for creating conflict
Why would I take their side?
>gen 3 quit without a reason
Ungrateful and the remaining girls didn't deserve being backstabbed like that, if you have a good reason for them to leave provide it and I'll hate management instead.

>>46870649
And pretty much every girl said they themselves are "hurt and betrayed" while I really don't see the gen3 doing that on purpose. Gen1 and gen2 are in bed (figuratively) with the management and it is pretty clear at this point.

>>46870692
Are you talking about the almost harvard meme?

>>46869312
I'm so glad that Sava's donothon spinner had shitty rewards with ridiculous prices. Was originally planning to drop a few a hundred until I saw that. Glad I didn't waste my money.

>>46870678
If Hololive and Niji couldn't get their fucking EN's to Japan during that time period for 3d events, what made she think Koshita can.

>>46870795
based, they wanted true fans only

production kagraduationii

>>46870795
At least they didn't steal their models like the fuckers from Phase.

>notAletta starts streaming
>she does a donothon within a month
how would you react?

>>46870797
Funny that we always only got the story from the PK side but never from the girls that left, and everyone believe the story wholeheartedly.

>>46870811
If you think nene or lua especially charzu would let management be dicks to them without be called out or consequences your wrong. Nene especially wouldn't stand for that shit

>>46870898
i would donate since i couldn't do it the first time

>>46870964
Then provide it, their silence is proof kawaii story was right.

>they were not terminated
>they decided as a group to leave
>after much discussion

>>46870691
Employees always have an edge, despite what you brainwashed corporate bootlikers say.

>>46870678
>aruru graduated because PK wouldn't let her take time off for illness
She was an irresponsible, self-admitted menhera. She literally ghosted everyone. She even said herself that she didn't like streaming. How long was it before she started streaming regularly again? A year?
>neena graduated because she wanted a bigger cut of her rapidly growing channel
Her channel wasn't growing anymore than anyone else in gen 2. She had some dedicated paypigs. That was it. She was a twitch streamer and wanted to be a twitch streamer. She had to do an immediate reversal after debut, because she tried to bring twitch culture into her channel and it backfired on her.

Charzu is DRAMA CENTRAL now lmao

>>46870898
Donothon is ridiculous and scammy no matter what goals they have or who did it and those who donated to any donothon deserved to get scammed.

>>46871001
based cuck

I will say I respect the members for actually being willing to talk about this after it happened, unlike other companies which would say "please don't ask us about it anymore, send a message to the management email" and as they say it they know that the management isn't actually going to respond and answer any questions so it's basically just like "send your messages straight to this garbage can."

>gen3 did not break rules
>did not go behind management back

>>46870898
I would create hypothetical situations in my head and get mad at them

>>46871130
dont respond to bait pasta

>>46870836
True fans wouldn't want the general population to look at their oshi like she was a malicious bitch.

>>46871231
I think we all would

>>46871130
Both of them also had planned graduation. Aruru literally ghosted her fans and genmates who cancelled their stream for her graduation stream. They had plan graduation for Neena for a month before the corpo found out she lied to them to possibly waive the contract fee found her reincarnate to PL and funneling her fans there.

>Last Wednesday they told the other talents about the decision to graduate
>Something happened on Tuesday tol
From charzu stream

>this was an early release from their contracts

>Sava's 600 bucks mindbroke her
This cheap bitch threw a tantrum over 600 bucks and went into a doom spiral causing others to cancel streams and reach out for support.

So basically gen3 did nothing wrong but you fags still trying to imagine some scenario to blame them?

>>46871625
They could've agreed to have a proper sendoff, graduating as they did was dumb

>>46871625
they didn't get fired, they quit on Kawaii for no reason.

>>46871601
If a company is willing to scam you for $600 they are petty enough to scam you for more.

>>46871625
running away with my money without doing all the donoathon goals is enough for me to hate them. greedy cunts.

>>46871625
They did nothing wrong for themselves. In terms of hurting the other members of Kawaii they did something wrong.

>>46871625
Even if nothing happened on either side, demonstratively "walking out" is causing a huge reputation to the company and other girls. Are you fucking stupid or something

charzu gonna become the new scarce

I think those reasons were all Sava's lmao

I will still love Lua no matter what
Weeeeyyyyyy

all of those sound like reasons sava would have for quitting kek

>never got to play DRG with Peony

>>46871695
What kind of an impact is $600 from all the donos she gets? For all we know, it's a fine for failing to stream as promised.

>>46871625
The left their fans to rot and ruined the companies reputation, therefore ruining the gen 1 and 2 girls reputations in the process. Also it created so much unnecessary drama, all they had to do was give a week or 2 and graduate slowly with a stream each, why is that so hard?

>>46871689
>>46871691
>>46871728
>>46871733
>>46871749
stop responding to dramatrannies ignoring facts to start shit

7-eleven is a black company confirmed

>>46871625
good bait, you're gonna catch a lot. here's a (you) from me

7/11 HATE
famimart LOVE

>>46871695
Are you implying Kawaii scammed her? What would they take or refuse to give that was worth $600? ASMR mic?

>>46871981
More like a dark brown company to be fair.

God I love Charzu

So they just wanted out of the contract and did this stunt to quit? We straight up got a full gen of N**nas kek

>>46871462
Late tuesday they demand the meeting, say no graduation
Later by wednesday they change mind and graduate

>>46871695
Sava got those 600bucks back from maybe_me a few days after her twitter sperg out

>>46871749
>>46871931
What are the demands that the management cannot meet and letting them go would be a much better decision? This is too abrupt there might be some bad blood going on if there is no graduation stream.

>>46869222
I'm gonna make her physically incapable of standing up

>>46872010
???

GET GEZU GEZU'D BITCHES
AHAHAHAHA

>>46871130
Don't talk bad about Awuwuw
> She literally ghosted everyone.
This was confirmed on her PL account and current account.

She has mentioned that "around that time," her grandmother (Aruru’s “witch” lore character that she referred to a lot) fell deathly ill, and that she only has her grandmother in her life. For a long time, people thought she actually roped herself after the loss, but she popped back up only once her grandmother's health got better.
>How long was it before she started streaming regularly again? A year?
even a year hiatus is better than graduation

>>46872009
Ask Sava on twitter. She never explained it.

>>46872112
The fact that she didn't back channel this to her personal account means that she still plays by the rule.

According to Charzu they were pretty much counting them in whatever future plan they had until they told them they were all graduating

>>46871233
>>46871130
>>46871416
Ok Nene

>>46872239
How did I talk bad about her? You may have provided more context, but everything I said was a fact. I didn't call her anything she hasn't called herself.

>>46872279
It is even stranger if this is true. What are they demanding that the management can't meet and both parties decided that graduation is the only way forward?

the 2 people watching charzu, all me

>>46872239
I mean she's still a menhera and it does suck that her mental takes such a bad turn. However, there's not much kawaii can do since it's not a mental health service and only can only honor her wish to graduate. I still watch her PL here and there

so in the end, was Aletta's anime list just her boyfriends MAL that she copied

>>46872533
I don't like in-character Charzu, but when she's talking matter-of-fact she's pretty entertaining.

>>46872491
Only thing I can think of is management told gen3 that they wont be allowed to be part of the idol project

charzu just btfo those four retards hahahahahaha

>Charzu almost graduated too
Grim

charzu love

GAHAHAHAHAHA

>>46872491
If they really pulled a powerplay "it's what we want or graduation" then this outcome is not surprising.

>>46872585
Her boyfriend got pretty shit taste then damn

>>46872279
> According to Charzu
(Facts)

>>46872607
That makes no sense either. From the announcement they said that gen3 complained about burnt out yet somehow they wanted to be included in a future project?

>>46872618
You gotta think.. if charzu was on the edge of graduation, no shit this would have happened again with gen 3. Just as it happened with Hana, Aruru, etc.

>>46872585
go to sleep doxxane, this doesn't concern you

>>46872607
they were in talks for their kickstarter already just the timing of it

My shortstack latina daughterwife drank two sips of alcohol and had one tequila shot and now she's buzzed saying "amogus" to herself repeatedly and giggling.

>>46871045
NDA usually carries after contract ends..

>>46872607
The issue with that is the Gens1&2 statement said there were plans to try and fast track Gen 3 into the Idol Project in some capacity.

damn Shee has made 7k already

>>46872743
They can leak it to 3rd parties.

>>46872618
The fact that Charzu is still around despite her abysmal donation revenue and demanding real job should be a testament to Kawaii's management being at least somewhat competent.

>CONFIRMED GEN 3 LEFT BECAUSE THEY THOUGHT THEY COULD DO BETTER FUCK THOSE WHORES
CONFIRMED GEN 3 LEFT BECAUSE THEY THOUGHT THEY COULD DO BETTER FUCK THOSE WHORES
>CONFIRMED GEN 3 LEFT BECAUSE THEY THOUGHT THEY COULD DO BETTER FUCK THOSE WHORES

>>46872695
>burn out
Did they have streaming quotas..? Not like anyone other than Aletta streamed a shit ton anyways.

>>46872709
Are you even watching the fucking stream?

>>46872799
Also to the fact that she actually wants to do this.

>>46872799
Maybe OL hag is the way of the game for small corpo
Trying to find neet so they can stream more doesn't always work out.

>we felt like this project we have been working for 2 years was just deemed not good enough
>I dunk on management when it's deserved
it really was zoomer girls having women moments about working in a corporation

>>46872872
3 streams a week minimum, think they all need to be at least 1 hour
a heavy burden, I know

>>46872784
Wow youre really smart

>>46872799
Sure thing, manager. The girl is ok with streaming for fun and that is somehow your achievement.

>>46872799
Nah. The entire thing run like a personal project rather than a company that wanted to make money. They let their best gen go when things get a little tougher for them to control.

>>46872966
>their best gen
lmao

>Charzu sent a manifesto to management on the day that Shinzo Abe was assassinated
based

>>46871045
wait for another graduation lol
so kawaii will be ultra super duper right

>Charzu blasted management even on Abe's deathday
fucking based

>>46872080
Aletta was always Neena 2.0

>>46872834
This.
I think they just thought they were bigger than the company

>>46872966
This.
Honeslty whos even remotely good at streaming in kawaii at this point other than Nene? Retarded Japanese management.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

I HOPE THE PEONYFAG FUCKING ROPES

>>46872966
>They let their best gen go
aletta, you circle jerk thread is over here >>46856818

>>46873088
Nene like it this way too.

>>46873155
True, shes back to having zero competition in kawaii.
Isla actually is also a good streamer, but for some reason never took off

> Charzu literally just confirmed that she told management
> "If you don't meet my demands I will do to you what I did to Abe"
> And they obeyed her.

Literally no excuse for Gen 3 to not negotiate terms.

>>46873141
Stop responding to obvious tourist bait

>>46872940
Good. Corporations need to be put in check all the time. I'm glad zoomers realise that.

>>46872940
it really seems that way
still, i will keep supporting gen1&2 and ex-gen3

STFU ABOUT THIS POINTLESS DRAMA AND WATCH THIS MAGICAL GIRL
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qM-uByx7ktA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qM-uByx7ktA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qM-uByx7ktA

imagine watching charzu and liking her afterwards
cringe, ok
cringe

>>46873231
they didn't actually want to negotiate. they wanted out because they thought they could do better.

Charzu is a real nigga.
These hoes just ain't loyal.

>>46873399
she a real one desu frfr no cap

>>46873265
>miryu stays
>she fills the gen 3 with her cutie harem
the best timeline was lost

this is doubly tragic, because it seems like this really did not need to happen. this is a useless waste, pointless sacrifice.

>>46873231
Nah from the announcement it seems to be a breakdown in negotiations. Somehow the management wouldn't budge. Are they stricter towards gen 3?

>>46873383
Might be one explanation but who is dumb enough to believe that they can do better as indie compare to corpo?

>>46873231
She wanted a melonpan, 3rd gen wanted a bigger cut. Wow, I wonder which demand management will satisfy and which not.

>Burnout
was one of the reasons they quit.

>burnout
3 streams a week, 1 hour min
at least 1 tweet a day
for fuck's sake

>burnout
>only a few months in
>schedule wasn't some marathon nightmare

>>46873223
That applies to several of them. Not only Isla, but Charzu with her creative streams and chat engagement. Lua is like a hag version of Nene; better singer, but more awkward asmr (which is kind of endearing in its own way). It genuinely fucks with me that they don't pull better ccv.

>>46873692
>>46873710
>>46873717
Bullshit.

>>46873692
it has some good games, never played paradise but revenge was pretty fun

>>46873770
do you actually believe ""Gezu"" will stream daily as she's promising?

>>46873620
Anon, there are hundreds of 2view, all of them do at least as good as kawaii.

>Management agreed to the demands
>Dumb bitches graduated anyway

Wasn't Aletta the one that praised how good Kawaii management is and how she is in it for the long haul? What happened?

>Agree to delay plans for kickstarer
>Allow them to take hiatus
>still leave
Yeah they just wanted to quit lmao fuck them

I still can't wrap my mind around Peony leaving too, she seemed so happy where she was, I didn't watch her all that much but she didn't seem the type who would do something like this
Man I'm gonna miss her ASMR roleplays

>Second reason was something we can't talk about
>Management agreed to it
>this was a very exciting thing for us but gen3 was super worried
from charzu stream

I wonder what this big project is, since it's seemingly not the concert or whatever?

>>46873843
Oh, I believe she will for 1-2 weeks and then start the doom spiral when she doesn't get the numbers she expects

Looks like they didn't wanted gen 1 and 2 3d concert to happen. what the fuck

>charzu talking about whorelolive
NOOOOOO STOP THAT

>>46873966
The plans involving gen 3 were unrelated to the concert

>all these holofags
cringe

>>46873891
>>46873911
I am thinking sus. What is good for gen1/2 but bad for gen3?

>>46873879
(FACTS)

Never hire people under 20 if you want long term employees, especially amongst zoomers
I was on my 10th job by 23

>>46873734
Love Nene, but her numbers are a bit of a Potemkin Village if you compare the normal weeklies to the ASMR peaks. The ~ hour of zatzu before the games are actually much more enjoyable to me that when she does play because she's not a good gaming streamer, and that's ok, but I can totally see how random algorithm clickers would bounce off, as well as the effect that strong CGDCT GFE but not being allowed to go any further and do things like ear licks can have.

>>46873620
>but who is dumb enough to believe that they can do better as indie compare to corpo?
A lot of people, sadly. I've done some research and math and it boggles my mind that people would willingly jump ship for a smaller audience on a platform that takes more money.

Yes (You) get a smaller portion of incoming money, and that's all a lot of chuubas seem to see, but you're hitting a much bigger audience and making more money.

this was THE miryu corp
she would have been the headliner of their idol project
now she is doomed to languish
I hate this so much
I want to die

>>46873879
here's what they wanted:
>make crazy demand to management
>management decides to decline this
>leave on "mutual terms"
but instead, management tried to level with them and they just bailed anyway. Now they all look like shit (which is a shame for Peony and Miryu, who likely were the opposed ones and had to be convinced).

>>46873895
Peony wanted dewdrops to turn into coomdrops and will be doing erotic NSFW ASMR roleplay from now on

>>46874063
it can work if you had a successful PL before joining corpo. Not a common story to make that swap and back though

>>46874021
Maybe they didn't want to get into a big project because they're getting poached, would make it more difficult and even more drama

>Reina really tried to keep them and understand what they were trying to do
based pink whore

>>46874078
No this is the Nene's clique.

Reina...

>>46874115
I can only hope this is true. She-coomers are CUTE!

>>46874205
i meant headliner of the gen3 project

>Reina went out of her way to convince gen 3 to change their minds multiple times
fuck, man...

>>46874187
Which corpo is dumb enough to poach the entire gen from another corpo? This will only ruin their reputation down the line.

so will we get the full story when Reina comes back Monday?

she tried.

>>46869161
Thrive

>>46874234
riitard you have to go back

>>46874281
I don't want to see her cry again over shit like this...

>>46874052
> Sunday, unlikely schedule conflicts with normal people
> Excellent US time, coast to coast
> Good content in general, no surprises

>>46874281
You're just gonna hear what Charzu's saying except it'll be coming from a crying Reina.

>we are closer to independent contractors
>I wouldn't force people to stay if they are unhappy

>>46874281
only thing she will give us are tears

>>46874296
she always tries... and she always cries...

>>46874195
>>46874248
reina is absolutely a true believer. i'm not saying this didn't hurt all of them, but this must have absolutely crushed her.

>>46874115
Akane's going to have the time of his life

>You think in the future would be a chance of you or any member doing something with ex gen 3 talent if they still doing content in like 6 months to a year?

>>46874303
You hit the nail on the head goddamn. Felt bad the other week because Riifu and Nene ASMR overlapped and Peony's timeslot overlaps with Peony, and this will continue to be true.

>>46874281
If she can stop crying while explaining then sure
Bitch is way too emotional

>>46874338
Basically "talent freedom" roru

>>46874274
"Where do you see yourself in 5 years" is a standard interview question. With those four you know the answer is "somewhere else lol fuck you."

>>46874438
overlaps with other green woman. Coomer brain not word good.

>>46874165
There's a few holos I know of that have smaller numbers than their PLs. But one way to look at it is this:

If we take the base sub/membership rate as the standard ($5), then to make $1000 from Subs/Mems you need 400 subs on Twitch, versus only 286 memberships on youtube.

Over 99% streamers have higher follow rates and CCVs on youtube.

It's not impossible, but it's stupid IMHO

>>46874338
Independent contractors, but you give up 50% of your earnings for nothing in return, lmao. No wonder they left

>>46874527
being indie and, indeed not even entering the /vt/ sphere at all has advantages. YOU get to be the brand and you don't have to bother with the graduations and conversion dance. The fanbase gets to consistently and easily follow your persona directly.

>>46874063
It would only make sense if you thought the corp was restricting your growth in some way or you are popular enough that you can bring most of your audience with you. I don't think either scenario applies.

>>46874274
Phase already did poaching and set precedent for small corpo EN scene. Jewcorp publicly made statement that they are welcome to poaching talents. It doesn't matter if the poached girls don't stay long term because they ended up still taking out/weakening the competition. Also they take no reputation hit if the girls leave because the girls left another corpo once before.

Isn’t Peony like very young? Like 19? I’m convince she was persuaded into doing this by Aletta

>>46874491
That is the only correct answer though

who should I watch in this corpo for a marie mehlo feel

At first I thought holokeks and nijikeks are biggest corpo bootlickers in the industry but somehow PKfags take the cake.

>>46874628
You get a free avatar and investment into a brand.

Even charzu cried...

>newcomers came in and just said the thing we were working on for 2 years was not enough
woman moment

so are we going to see this 2 year project or is it shitcanned thanks to this

>>46874234
whores can only be cute if they're JP

>>46874740
Have no clue about who that is

>>46874833
They're not going to shitcan the idol concert over this you retard

>They made even Charzu cry
Yeah. I hate all them now.

>I am not your vtuber girlfriend
>Imouto only
charzu...no....

>>46874900
I was under the impression that they were two different projects

>>46874931
She always said that

>>46874942
it was a metaphor to refer to the company itself

gen 3 were all bullies so yeah they can go die being 1 views now

>>46874931
There's no difference for the chartalan.

>>46874976
this is why I hate all this word dancing, just be straightforward for christ sake.

>>46874931
Heh, like she has a choice.

>>46874778
Wow 200 bucks and investment into a brand that doesn't do any promotions, what a deal.

I love nene and charzu's dynamic

>>46874931
That's what she want you to think anon.

This talk about management has me thinking about pic related. kawaii is far from being so shitty, afaik, but the value proposition of the management concept just put the thoughts in my head.

>>46874628
>monetary investment in model/rigging which can easily be $1000+ each
>A support staff of paid employees backing you that you can offload some of the tedium onto
>Free publicity that can triple your previous reach even before debut
>Continuous promotion and growth via passive promotion being part of the company
>>That's being generated by paid employees

Sure, you CAN do everything yourself, but they provide a shit ton of investment into talent

>>46875005
get therapy

>>46874931
But charzu always support bro/sis incest ship...

>>46875054
hi sava, how's norway?

>>46875074
they almost killed my oshi bro team...

>>46874628
Peony or Aletta were never going to get a model as good as the one they got, Miryu too.
I leave Sava out because she already had a decent one, even if not to everyone taste.

>>46873889
Godlike tweet
Praise the unity, the family and the company

>>46874778
The thing about joining a corpo is that what you built stays in the corpo once you leave, look at Kizuna Ai right now. Also another example is holo, no matter how big they were inside the holo they definitely will take a hit when they left. Coco and Rushia are way smaller than they were. Joining corpo and going indies both have pros and cons but if you talk purely about money then joining corpo is the way to go.

>>46870446
Well ok, so what’s your excuse on why gen3 left, and why I should believe you?

SHEE DROPPING F-BOMBS LET'S GOOO

>they had a week to put together graduation streams or anything
We got an april fools collab. it's not nothing, but eh pretty shit

Has Charzu identified the ring leader yet?

>March 29th a member of gen3 told "we are done with out meeting, we are all graduating"
Sava or Aletta?

>>46874321
Good, more masturbation fodder. Crying Reina is hot.

>>46875309
Gen3 is being shafted by the management. They have worse cut than gen1/2 while being the money makers. Charzu is saying like the management gave them everything but from the outcome of the event it seems to be not the truth. Either management lied or the girls lied.

>>46875431
She probably can't tell.

>>46875432
Sava for sure

>>46870964
Then go ask gen3 on why they left. If you have anything, then we will listen, and judge. They coulda gave us fans good reasons themselves on why they want to leave. Instead we got nothing, and most of them are ready to stream in a new life. Fuck off.

>>46875499
>gen 3 were the money makers
more like Aletta was kek

>>46875499
Proofs?

yuyu had to mute the q bgm

>>46875579
One thing I noticed, Akane stopped with his massive donations in the last few weeks.
Did he know?

>>46875432
Sava more or less confirmed as the leader at this point. The other girls were following her lead, no other reason they'd cancel streams just to "help" Sava (aka demand a meeting with management)

>>46875686
Of course he did. He didn't want PK to get their cut. You know they inform their biggest paypigs of these things, right?

>>46875686
the ukrainefag Sava paypig is also in charzu stream siding with her.

>>46875730
>Aletta going along with Sava when you compare the numbers

>this reeks of bad management, i cannot support a black company
>i understand that, i wish we had more time to address it

YUYU RAPE

Feels like Andrew Tate moment with the cuts he got from the camgirls that were abused and bottom bitches all vouched for him, while the clueless incels are supporting him.

>>46875686
shot his load, gotta pay off that cc

>>46875911
is she reading catalog?
>>46850556

>>46875686
People in the dark thread were saying they got DMs from sava 1 hour after the announcement.

>>46875730
> more or less confirmed
It's no such thing. It's a very reasonable conclusion to come to and makes the most sense given the evidence available.
But it's not confirmed. For all we know Peony was the ring leader. This is a less likely conclusion but to quote a Nami "Real life doesn't have to make logical sense". And we count out the "what the fuck?" factor.

>reciepts
based those fake whores cant even make shit up now kek

>>46875077
Anon, nobody except niji/holo get charged that much for a model. And what does kawaii staff do? Do they arrange deals with brands for promotions? Deals with musicians for original songs? What does small corpo staff even do?
And I hate to say it, but I have literally would never knew Aletta was a corpo and I had no fucking clue who else is there in her corpo. Youtube Shorts push is literally the only promotion that actually works.

>>46875983
Twitter is full of it and the comments in her video. gen 3 screwed them over so bad

mel would have stayed if she got through auditions...

>>46869322
Dedicated cloudtomo here as well, but not rich enough to whale. I'll also be following her. She really built up this corpo though so I can't see her leaving for as long as the company is up.

>have to keep reciepts for every single interaction now and look over your shoulder
that's a bad vibe
https://youtu.be/pLtaQtvHtCc

>>46869744
what about her?

>>46876078
one of the last times I'll ever get to post it

>>46876063
Their PL's and new accounts were literally posted within 5 minutes of the announcement, that was just shitposters trying to stir shit

>>46876097
Aletta would have had a trash model like the one doxxeane got if she had not joined kawaii

>fallout
>japanese company
ooooo ixnay on the fallout-ay suzu

>mass graduation, no matter how you slice it makes the company look bad
>we have to deal with the fallout

>>46876143
>girl that changes name and model every 2 months
looooooooolllll

>these are feelings, not facts
>we believe they were overreacting, they didn't believe so
>it's a matter of opinion

>>46876143
Do you really think they wouldn't have ganged up on and gotten rid of a menhera retard like her? Oceane has far more of a spine than Mel, and they're both menhera.

>>46874090
I actually thought Miryu's 2d and personality and the kind of streams is perfect fit for Kawaii since they got 2 vsingers for their gen. Her 2d was really good too, the best in Kawaii in my opinion(Feel free to dunk on it, I dont' care) which is too much of a waste. Didn't she mention before(I'm not sure where she mentioned it or if she was the one who said it) that Miryu's 2d is very beautiful. She loved it, Even the management.

>>46876268
The final fuck you from Gen 3 was the legacy they leave behind for Kawaii, and the way those who aren't in the know will look at this corpo. It really isn't fair to Gen 1 & 2, who had nothing to do with whatever negotiation (really, hostage taking) bullshit they were dealing with.

>>46876355
Overreacting over what?

someone shop in sharzoo

>to us, they were overreacting, but that's just our opinion
>I am sure they don't believe they were overreacting
>we share some of their complains even
>but we decided to work things out
charzu nigga

>Sava is the ring leader
I'm reminded of the times in the past couple weeks where Savas brought up how great it is to have such an awesome group of friends with the green white and purple heart emoji and the rest of gen4 minus Miryu oddly replying on the post...Kinda gives some credence to Miryu only going along to not be left alone

Did she explain why there will be no graduation streams?

>>46876254
Contrary, she would've got even better model.

>we in gen 1/2 have the same complaints, but we're still here
>there were complaints on day one two years ago, and they were resolved over time

>>46875077
>Continuous promotion and growth via passive promotion being part of the company
ogey
Passive promotion via 80 ccv company. no ads, covers, outfits etc for 50% cuts

troon raided Shee...

>>46876426
This is what's really upsetting. I don't give a shit about gen 3 leaving, but it impacts the rest of the girls negatively.

>>46876097
The first part is false and the last part is simply anedoctal. Though management certainly could do better with promotion.

>3 hour limit
actually understandable. Fights burnout and makes the streams and vods easy to watch. No one has time for 6 hour vods, you just fall too far behind if you try.

>>46872239
>For a long time, people thought she actually roped herself
That was a rrat spread by exactly one person just to upset people.
Source: the one person was me

>>46876496
>no covers and outfits
you can't be this much of a newfag holy shit

>>46876503
Nice try liora schizo
She literally talked about fondling her own breast to check for breast cancer yesterday.

>>46876454
This hurts so much.

>>46876426
I am thinking based. Shouldn't let a black company do whatever it wants without consequences.

>>46876426
It's definitely a bad look, but there's shit like Wactor that's still around. Kawaii can recover eventually.

>it's like if a group of new people came in and deemed the thing we have been working for two years unworthy
Man this must have hurt them a lot, specially Reina
>>46876465
nobody asked

>>46876683
so true sis

>isla, miryu, and charzu were planning a love live cover song

>>46876722
It is funny that gen1/2 took this personally when gen3 never made it about them.

>>46876677
that cancer? me.

Holy fuck, Miryu really didn't want to go

>Isla, Charzu and Miryu were planning a Love Live song collab 2 days before the announcement
Miryu really did wanna stay...

>Isla, Miryu, Charzu Love Live cover was in the works
I won't forgive them for taking her.

>Sava and Aletta denied us of a Miryu/Isla/Charzu cover
stop making me hate them more charzu...

I thought once that Nordschizo was me from the reality where I did warrior cats RP, come across realities to groom Sava in the reality where she did too. I see now that it's not me from another reality. If Sava was in America when this happened, she would go down a dark path. Nordschizo is me from the future, come to save my oshi.

miryu should have stayed. i know that's easy as fuck to backseat but man, it could have worked.

STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP

Peony was really the only thing keeping me watching the company, so I guess my time in /pkg/ has come to an end. This isn't a sarcastic statement, but I truly hope you all have a great time with your respective oshis. It's been a blast.

>>46876844
>entire gen quits and makes company look bad
>earlier gens who have been there far longer take it personally
Yeah, gee. I wonder why?

What is the demand that management didn't want to give in at the same time Miryu think is justifiable for her to leave.

I have to anti this 4 whores now.
They killed Miryu.
MIRYU DIDN'T KILL HERSELF.

>>46876878
>Isla, Charzu and Miryu were planning a Love Live song collab 2 days before the announcement
Shiiit. They just really want to see others burn down with them.

>Pay a 50% cut
>Still have to kickstart so you can get 3D
I'd fucking quit too, honestly. At least as an indie I have no illusions of throwing away half my income for support that doesn't exist.

>>46876677
fake tits probably can't get even cancer

>>46877002
>>46877018
Miryu went with them because she was a weak bitch.

>>46877002
Management gave in to the demands and they still left.

>>46877068
> Dramafags still kicking around "50%" like it's been proven or something.

>chat trying to get foot pics out of Shee
cringe but based

>>46876986
You must've done some pretty heinous shit if an entire gen decided to leave.

>>46877068
No they should have not joined, they knew this was the case, they are the 3rd gen and literally joined after the kickstart

>they probably thought it had to be done
I like this knifestab, because you know they have to have doubts. esp miryu.

>>46877125
Wtf this makes no sense.

>>46876676
ok cloudcuck
But ads when?

Charzu dropping that Stoic advice

>>46876875
Man, I honestly would like Miryu to come back if she could. I thought she fits so well with her model, and she’s a good singer. Dam.

>I don't think there's a whole lot of winners
Aletta and Sava antis won big

>>46877178
Yes because women are known to act 100% on logic alone and never over react.

>>46877178
or, they backstabbed the company and had no reason to leave (most likely scenario)

>>46877178
>zoomer women
>All of whom are either in college or recently were and have never held real jobs
Yeah, sure, buddy.

>>46876974
Wishing you the best on your future endeavors anon.

>>46876974
Your oshi was a whore, good riddance we're all better off without her.

>gen 4 will graduate 5 minutes into debut

>>46877269
Charzu said it, Nene said it, Nami said it. They just wanted to leave no matter what.

>>46877455
would be kino bussing fr fr

>>46876677
Troons will even have delusions about diseases if it helps them feel better about their mental illness anon

>refresh shee stream
>she's at 7k
what the fuck

>>46877376
How did they backstab the company?
>they backstab it by leaving together
No that is tautology and didn't explain anything.

>>46877520
darkstar sold another car

>>46865639

>>46877455
if you look on the gen 1 channels tab, gen 3 is just gone. I wonder if they would even label a new gen as Gen 4 or just pivot to some label to better market it.

>>46877527
Hi sava

>>46877322
yeah considering them saying they wouldn't graduate and then deciding to graduate literally the next day doesn't give a good impression they were acting rationally

>>46877527
>Join
>get donothon money
>make plans for the future
>Quit
that's backstabbing

miryu...
have some self-determination

>>46870600
Canceling all of your streams (which is literally against your contract, by the way, you're obligated to stream, all of the girls have said there's a minimum quota barring extenuating circumstances), demanding to speak to management at 3 AM, and then graduating because they won't kowtow to your stupid woman demands doesn't make them look better, it makes them look like cunts. Greedy, self-absorbed, egoist cunts.

>>46877520
you made me look. I thought you meant viewers and was extremely confused for a second.

>>46877591
You think Sava actually knows what tautology is kek

>>46877527
That isn't a tautology. Holy fuck, learn proper terminology before I strangle you.

>>46877645
sad to see thunderlings get fucked over because their oshi was too much of a pussy to stand on her own two feet

>>46877645
She's an Australian woman, anon... There was never any chance.

>>46877705
you know what they say, you are what you eat

>>46877696
Strangle him anyways. I’ll watch, and record for all the anons here.

>>46877762
tell that to namijiroo (my beloved)

>>46877705
Can't really bring myself to be mad at Miryu but I hate the other ones more than *ceane and N**na now.

>>46877770
too much carpet munching...

>>46877855
Oh yeah, Aletta and Sava are now the biggest enemies of Kawaii.

>>46877855
Oceane did nothing wrong. She just refused to join neither Nene nor Aletta's clique so she has to go.

I hope Sava eats something toxic and dies.

>>46877954
Wouldn't go that far, but they are my biggest enemy as a former thunderling

>>46877582
So gen 1 and 2 hate gen 3 because they were not loosers who are content with stale breadcrumbs while others get the cake? That's gen 1 and 2's fault then.
>>46877666
Hi, corporate bootlicker.

>>46878031
English.

>>46878070
ENGLISH.

>>46878070
hi elia, ayayaya

>>46877954
I mean. I hate them for being such backstabing whores but I won't waste my time being an anti or some shit like that. Just let them be the pieces of shit they are far away from kawaii.

>>46878073
>>46878151
>1 minute apart
Get a life.

>>46878267
Get a fucking English language textbook.

>>46877954
>>46878055
I am starting to feel like a want to become a schizo anti like Henri, but Peony... Miryu... they are not totally guilty...

>Turn up
>Fudge around for a few hours
>Fuck off and do something else
Sounds like the ideal GF desu

>>46878070
>Hi, corporate bootlicker.
You know corporations can only exist, by definition, under a charter granted them by a centralized government. Even private businesses require licenture from the appropriate departmental body in their jurisdiction to operate. If you pay taxes you are literally helping to fund the mechanism through which corporations exist.

When are you going to stop being a corporate bootlicker?

>>46877588
I would just call the new gen "gen 3" again. Fuck the old gen 3.

>tfw was watching the Sava Christmas streams a couple of days ago, thinking about watching more vods
>She fucking dies
I know shes still "there" but man life throws shit at you fast and out of nowhere damn

>>46878070
> Contract requires streams
> Sign contract
> Refuse to stream
> Get called out on not fulfilling your obligations.
"CORPORATE BOOTLICKER!!!!!!!!"

Miryu is a sweetheart, and I will never harbor any hard feelings for her post Kawaii, the rest of them are actual terrible people

Does she always sign off like that? It's cute
https://youtu.be/CjSzCuC7tOI

>>46878307
>>46878376
So you have nothing to say. Good.

Sava's biggest donator was in Charzu's stream and said "Family". Hope it was worth it, Sava.

>>46878490
All 5 of gen3 are good people and I support all of them. They are the gen that put Kawaii on the map but gen1/2 seems to be ungrateful about it.

>>46878509
Yes and she says it in multiple languages at the start of the stream.

>>46878509
yes, her opening and closing are always the same, baring some special streams like no stream

>>46878453
Same energy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SWIiFKHMyeI

>>46878585
You have to be kidding LMAO, it was Nene that put Kawaii on the map. There's no way around it.

>>46878585
>all 5
I see you, wretched creature

koshita, i don't know how to tell you this bro but you don't know how to pick em

>>46878565
Charzu posted dominic toretto