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A thread dedicated to the Shadowverse Samael, Mori Calliope and her temperemental followers, the Deadbeats, as well as the Extended Universe!
I want to shit on her boobs
>>4673254Rushia dotes on her fans and tries her best even to the detriment of her mental health. Comparing that to Mori's treatment is a joke when if it's not either her music or one of her projects like the TTRPG she could give a fuck less.
>>4673908Worst hololive member to date
108 KB I FUCKING LOVE KAWAIIOPE MORIRIN AND I WANT TO MARRY THIS DORK, START A FAMILY WITH THIS DORK, AND RAISE A SON WITH THIS DORK, A SON WHO’LL INHERIT OUR RESPECTIVE BEST TRAITS AND ATTRIBUTES BUT IS ALSO JUST AS MUCH OF A DUMB CHUUNI AS HIS BEAUTIFUL DORK OF A MOTHER
>>4673958I can see why you love her
>>4673944leave and member Rushia, then.
MORI LOVE
>>4674006>please l-leaveKek
>>4673944ogey.
>>4674021Retardchama...
>>4673908Oh.. We're in the op now..
>>4673958108 kb doesn't seem like all that much love...
>>4673944They both care about their fans, the difference here is that one is menhera and the other isn't
>>4674087Where is the 4MB version? I need to spread the maximum amount of love.
When will she start putting in effort?
>>4674280Today since she's collabing with someone outside of the Hololive bubble that she hates.
https://litter.catbox.moe/ths7gf.pngdojinbeat again but this is just a repost. I'm still thinking about what to do with the next page
>>4674280>When will someone who only applied as a joke start putting in effort?Idk maybe when she doesn't renew her contract and try her best to keep the audience she leeched off from hololive.
>>4674294go be salty in another thread faggot
>>4674300Draw a gun coming out of the foreskin.
>>4674294Kek true, bitch really had the balls to say hololive bubble when she barely even collabed.
How is Mori still so successful in making bonelets seethe?
>>4674300saliva drooling on cock please
>>4674251Unironic question, Mori often says she cares about her fans, but when’s the last time she’s showed she cares about us?
>>4674360Here's the thing:>Barely do anything in terms of streaming>get money and recognition for Music.>antis try to put you down.>yet, you're still the second most popular EN Hololive member.Really, from Cereal Boxes to Mind real estate.
>>4674400When she made her collab partners confidential before the start of her collab streams because she's scared of being criticized.
>>4673944>Will be best friends that's the END of it>No!! I'm once again reminded why i have a miserable life and won't have a girlfriend, Fuck you MoriGuac
>>4674360The fanbase has autism just like their oshi so they can't help but take any and all bait.
>>4674400Everytime she likes fan art on twitter. Everytime she has used fan streaming assets like her intro animations, props, and bgms. Everytime she likes Youtube comments. Everytime she apologizes for scuffs and promises to improve in the future.
>>4674554So the bare minimum that is expected of an above average streamer?lmao
>>4674554>Mori's love boils down to:>using the shit you made for her instead of just acting like it doesn't exist>and apologies followed by empty promises
>>4674554Kek that's pathetic
I like Mori, she's cool.
>>4674650same
>retard still trying to convince people to unsub.What the hell is with this guy?
>>4674650I think your oshi might be legitimately retarded, and not in the cute way
>>4674400maybe do your archive reps newfag
Reminder that it's SEA hours and posts should not be taken seriously.
>>4674691He's jealous she got 1.7 million views on roki and it ain't even a week unlike his oshi
>replayed FFT >go back to thread>people still whining.
>>4674769It's one schizo, pay him no mind
>>4674764faggots literally btfo being this mad
>>4674769>Running away
Only e-celeb collab i would ever be fine with is Jerma
>>4674988From where I'm standing Holos are e-celebs themselves, so if they want to collab with others its no skin off my back.
>>4674602>>4674619>>4674642christ these goalposts look hella heavy
>>4675387>nooooo pointing out the obvious is moving the goalposts>my great and talented Cali is doing so many things for her community, like acknowledging that she has one!lmao you are beyond help
Her TTRPG collab hosted by her and her collab with watame showed her peak competency especially in the TTRPG one while the one with watame is the best one so far with a JP speaker. Though best one being just compared to her other JP collabs which isn't saying much but I still think it's an improvement and that's all just like a week ago if you ignore the one week break
This isn’t even a fun one, it’s a straight-up boring retard. Why, I remember when Mori anti-posting used to mean something. Now it’s devolved to barely literate dipshits struggling to string together enough words to make a sentence...
>>4675484Her antis are little kids, so it is said.
>>4675460I think out of the two of us I'm not the one beyond help, friend
I was a filthy secondary until that TTRPG collab. Can you imagine how fucking brilliant they're going to be once they actually play?
>>4675696Don't forget the closest tutorial session should be on Kiara's channel on Wednesday. I think Kiara mentioned it should be same timeslot as the first stream but she'll probably post a schedule either today evening or tomorrow.
>>4672255I still don't actually believe you at all. And even if I did, that's even worse, because that means the people in those servers are complacent with it happening and are just letting it all run wild. In any care, which specific server, since there are apparently 5 or 6 for Mori? No link, just the name, in case you fuckers become so completely unbearable that I myself graduate before Mori's contract is up.
>>4673934thanks kiara we know
>3 Different "MORI IS KILLIING HOLOLIVE" threads in the catalogMan they're going all out. This is cute
>>4676095The 2 senpais one has been up for like 4 days, they're not even getting any traction. Most anti posts are here, as expected.
>>4674300upper right face needs a bit of a reworkgreat job btw
>>4675913There are regular chatters on the main Mori Discord they have linked from the wiki that are tired of the dad shit. But regardless of how they feel about it, nobody there will do anything about it unless Mori say flat out to cut the shit without trying to play it up with a "HEY, listen!" or anything like that afterwards.
>>4674400Her comeback stream at the very end where she said she loves us.
>>4675913>which specific serverThe main one which can be found on the wiki.>because that means the people in those servers are complacent with it happening and are just letting it all run wildWhat do you expect people do? track down all the dad fag and shoot them? The only person that can stop the dad faggotry is Mori herself and you should know better how Mori is.
Will Mori call into Watame?
I honestly I think she has the best chance to be featured in the bigger Hololive projects out of all of EN.Good for her to be honest. She's definately the normie of the group but I dont mind it. It's actually pretty refreshing.
>>4676275it's not a totsu, it's a 3d concert
https://litter.catbox.moe/1gsqjo.png What do you guys think of this? I think it might be too ambitious for me on my current level with the angling. I just wanted a good fingering shot without needing to cut out the panel.I want to share about one of the plans I have for this dojin and why I keep insisting that it's going to take a damn while to finish. Supposedly there would be 4 moments in the story with sex with Mori gradually becoming more forward and less shy about it and I want to slip in some more creative environments like making a story about going camping in the mountains with Mori so I have a chance to draw outdoor full nude sex. I'll most likely release in parts with each part including the sex for a total of 4 parts
>>4676293she's a normie as far as having some kind of functional social circle, but I'd say overall she's the weirdest in the genlike, none of the NA girls are 'literally throw your old life away and move to a country where you don't even know the language of to revive a dying music genre'and Kiara for the most part went through classic idol route, helped by her talent for languages
>>4676337Raise the fingers up a bit to her clit and bro, your boy would be gulping that dick down, not pressing it against her forehead like a retard.
>>4676337Interesting view but the dick looks weird. It's just seems like a difficult angle in general.
>>4676293>She's definately the normie of the group but I dont mind it. It's actually pretty refreshing.Let's throw the usual niggers in the thread a bone and say, hypothetically it's all true, or at least say that it 100% makes it seem like she doesn't give a fuck. Imagine her just being so completely apathetic about everything but STILL putting in the time, effort, and enthusiasm to be part of something like HoloALT, getting chosen for a tie-in track for a popular mobile game, getting her songs in rhythm games with other Hololive members, being the first in the gen to get a Coco collab, being the first in the gen to collab with people outside of the company, and on, and on. This is why I love seeing her be part of all these projects and seeing her get chosen for huge things at Cover.
>>4676452Now, let's not go crazy and downplay Kiara. She pulled off pretty crazy things when she was a teenager entirely through her passion without any help. In a way it makes sense they became friends despite being so different. Mori and Kiara are pretty much the real-life versions of copypaste Ken-sama, except Kiara somewhat managed to move past that stage.
Almost time for Shadowverse, woo...
>>4676696not downplaying her, the opposite really - I think Kiara has things better sorted in her head and her stay and career in Japan were way more organized and executed at the end of the daylife and people fucked her up, but she wasn't a walking disaster like our boy
It's GiggUK she updated the thumbnail
>The guy will be formal and polite, only talking if Mori needs advice and explains the cards she puts down on the go
Your choices in friends are fucking horrible mori
Hey, now I remember those retards from right after TT who said Connor ruined everything and they should have just removed him. Now we'll know
/vt/ is gonna be delicious today
>>4677190yes like you have the authority to judge mori’s friends
>>4677077Aaaand skipped.
not bad as bad as connor.
>>4677305>not skipping an SV stream regardlessAnon... could you actually... possibly... LIKE Shadowverse?
Fuck you Deadbeats. You could've prevented this.
>>4677350S-Shut up! It was a fun game when it first came out...
maybe will check out the leftovers after sheep ends her birthday stream
>>4677352Its better this way.
>>4677350If it was actual pro it could be actually kind of entertaining or interesting. Professionals that can explain and show their skill are often interesting. In fact I'm more disappointed from this perspective because she clearly doesn't want to learn shit and just wants to play with another deeply mediocre player.
Could it be that the calliopeople timeline is actually the better one?
i cant believe people are seething over mori streaming with her friend
>>4677527She doesn’t need a pro. She’s a complete newb. Someone who is experienced on camera who has a basic understanding of the game is a much better option. And I’ll take gigguk over most of vshojo (IM is cool) any day.
>>4677606I think most were expecting an actual professional SV player.
>>4677629All a mediocrity can teach is his own mediocre ways and his own mistakes. Even if you're illiterate, you dont' learn from half-literate. You still learn from the best.
>>4677527you can't teach a threat assessment in card games, it comes with pure experience. any tard can explain your main combo and gameplan, maybe how to deal with enemy threats and playing around them too. Keeping and reclaiming tempo, long term plays that sacrifice your main pieces - not exactly
fuck antis and fuck drama, specially after drama for a fucking charity stream im so sick of these people. Just perish, all of you.
>>4677634Ah yes, all the Shadowverse enthusiasts in /vt/ must be seething right now.
>>4677606What disappoints me is this is not a pro so it’s at least two more fucking Shadowverse streams after this
>>4677457Better for who?
>>4677606Lets be honest here most people are just using this as shitposting material instead of really being butthurt.
>>4677859ah yes, the "4chan is their real oshi" argument.
hey, at least its not cunnor.
>>4677900It's unironically true for a lot.
>>4677771Anti's on here are living their lives behind keyboards ofc drama is going to be the only thing they look forward to kek
>>4677934don't tempt fate, my dudehonestly, I think by thing point people that are bothered by Mori's taste in friends/entertainers should become aware it's not changing and will most likely become part of her content, and cut their losses
>>4677829Me.
>>4676337Yeah, she seems to have no midsection here. Maybe it's best to cut it up into two half-panels or something like that.
Why is even she like this?
>>4677718Actually shitposts aside that’s not true. In mma for example it’s common to have pros do seminars at gyms and while some are great, some have so internalized the basics they have a hard time understanding why newbs suck so hard. They literally can’t understand why what is muscle memory to anyone near their level is a struggle for newbs.
>Gigguk.It turns out that it's fucking nothing. Literally the tamest of the 3, and is an OG.
>>4678284Because she has quarantined for 10 years and is hungry for pussy.
>>4678142only reason she even exists is because of devotion to her tastes, dunno how ppl can be into her and not realize that
>>4678284Because she’s a vtuber and understands that annoying memes like that are popular and increase engagement even if they are fucking stupid.
>>4677934>Mystery Guest #2
>>4678284It’s become a meme for its own sake, people don’t even know the origin; it has enough momentum that it’s just what’s done by newfags to fit in
>>4678358Then just use "queen" ffs.
>>4678142Tfw watch vtubers to escape cancer like Gigguk
>>4678439She wants cock too, and knows Mori has both.
I'm glad Mori sounds happy today
>>4678446u can skip a vod of one game u dont even play brother. its fine. you'll be ok
>>4678390Random white girl moves to Japan with no language skills to join fucking niche J rap scene. Against all odds becomes enormously successful. You have to kinda dumb and incredibly stubborn to do that. But that’s part of her appeal and while I hope she improves some things she will never ever change
>>4678512I'll do my best to change that by the end of the stream.
How long before he accidentally drops a K****?
>there are special crusts like cheese-stuffed crustsThe pepeloni...
>>4678619I'm sure hes used to calling other collab partners by their usernames instead of their real ones, its probably fine
Based Mori, not wasting food
lmao, she has more rapport with Gigguk than kiara.
>look at you nowhah....
>>4678728Syd is going to kill him.
>Shadowverse collab>it's just a discord call
>happy to see you grow as a streamerhm
>>4678439That's just as cringe.
>Joey and Garnt were the contacts.
>>4678783she said that it'll be just a call so what are you surprised about
>>4678823At least that's appropriate.
"I'd run out of things to talk about if I just made a zatsudan stream with my genmate"
>>4678308You are somewhat correct. That mostly has to do with difference between learning ability and ability to teach things. Not every pro can teach, so you need to find one that can. This is true for every area from sciences they teach in a uni to gaming. A mediocrity is very likely to have mistakes and misconceptions they don't even realize they have and just pass them onto you. And once you grow, you'll have a hard time rooting them out because they become ingrained. Most people probably run into this kind of situation when they get a bad trainer in a gym.
>so does this make Gigguk our uncle or something?Jesus Christ chat just go fucking see a psychiatrist
>>4678783You're right, it should be an off-collab so we can hear him piping her live.
oh so the next guests are more of the tt guys
>I hate chat, I hate chat.Based, subbed.
https://www.twitch.tv/gigguk
wait so cygames is sponsoring both into the tournament.
>>4679361what was your assumption before this? Kiara and Mori is sponsored, managers handled their schedules for this whole thing
>>4679232>dude and his crew are officially part of EU now, at least more so than beforeWew, looking forward to future threads
Of all fucking things this woman was putting hours and effort into getting good at shadowverse. It'so retarded it becomes entertaining.
>>4679361Makes sense, wouldn't be much of a tournament with just Mori and Kiara unless the plan was to just throw the two of them in with actual SV Pros
>>4679431I meant the G-man.
Jesas, shartkeks. She sounds more enthusiastic in the first 10 minutes of this stream than during any of her streams of the past two months except for maybe the ttrpg
>>4679361grub will pay for it in worst case. grand naru earned enough for few throwaway sponsorships
>>4679459Sorry your dramaposting got shut down whinebeat.
Mori has a ton of chemistry with Gigguk. They should collab more often.
>>4679476i'm too tired to feel anything anymore so I'll give you this though. Their collab plan for RCG was disrupted and Gura wakes up to having the stream changed to Cuphead where Mori has no idea how tto set up steam remote play nor has installed the game. It was an improvised effort which made the gameplay on Gura's side horrible to the point that Mori kept suggesting to just change to Phasmo. Yeah, she's much better in planned collabs and the improvised stuff is garbage she tries to disguise as funny scuff EN curse
>>4679640Syd's going to kill him if that happens.
JWU>GiggukAt least it's not Co**or.
>>4679640This desu, all holo girls should unironically collab with men
>>4674021don't take medsdon't leaveremember, it's always kiara's fault xD
>>4679476What a fucking bitch, getting excited for games and things she actually enjoys doing with friends. Fuck Mori.I will.
>tells her what to do without telling her why to do itPretty great teacher you got there, Moririn.
Mori dropped. Reine is my oshi now.
>>4679728Anon...
>>4679853This, she should've never collab with her friends or genmates to and remain like a lone wolf that bitch really be having fun with her friends. UNACCEPTABLE!!
>>4679728are you tired Moving goalposts yet buddy?
>>4679921Y- yes?
>>4679632Go off yourself, faggot. I'm perfectly happy with pretty much everything she does and don't complain outside of obvious fuckups. But I'm not going to pretend I like a shitty cardgame.>>4679726So where's the loss? Sounds like we'd get rid of multiple problems at once.
>>4679853>cuckbeat doubles down on his cuckoldrypottery
>17k viewersHoly fucking kek my sides, what is this, this is her biggest sv stream ever wtf. Are they all tt fans or what? Even the takamori one got way less than that
>>4679970There will be more collabs
>>4679970nta but it's more than likely that rest of the tt guys will make an appearance eventually as SV is a good opportunity for her to bring them up
>>4679765Gonna take it a step further than you.Fuck the idolshit restrictions, I want my oshi to find someone and get knocked up so she doesn't suddenly quit streaming in her 30's to desperately try and make use of what's left of her biological clock.Just because she represents what I find appealing in a girl doesn't mean I literally want to imagine myself with her.
>>4680009It's almost like Takamori fucking sucks.
>>4680035No shit sherlock
>>4673908>JWU>Ignoring unicorn spergsCan someone please recommend me some good NTR doujins?
>>4680040>>4680035That's possible, but I really hope she has someone else planned for this. It's can't be "Oops, it's all trash taste!"
>>468006780% of the people in /vt/ wont like this
>>4680009the majority of deadbeats outside of >here are TT fans
>>4680040Does the coach count as one the guests? If not the we have at least 4 more streams before the tournament right? Idgaf about the guests but 5 potentially 6 more sv streams? Holy shit
>>4680067Damn, cuckbeats, at least make it a little less obvious
>>4680067Actually based
>>4680120Are you lost?
>>4680009Takamori is the most contrived cringe ship in the industry.
>>4680067Fuck off incel Mori is a DAD. >she is a HE and he should realize it before his gender dystopia makes him kill himself.
>>4680035Good.Special Guest #4 will be Charlie.
so you're telling me that in order to fuck my oshi I have to make a fuckload of youtube videos talking about anime?
I'm betting that Hime will appear.
>>4680198>neckbeard faggot calls people online a cuck because they don’t want a pretend girlfriendLol ok
>>4680175Tournament is on the 27th and I doubt there will be more than one SV stream per week.
>>4680263No you have to be Fake type
Guys, Gigguk seems like a chill guy and I'm happy to see Mori having fun
>>4680263That or dildos, yes.
>>4680067>I want my oshi to find someone and get knocked upUhhhh..cuckbeats? How you coping?
I have to be honest, this is her best sv stream.
>>4680293Is it an actual tournament with pros or are they going to make like their own little tournament?
>>4680263You can't just make YouTube videos, you need to be an asian manlet too.
Why does Mori sound so wet during this?
>>4680205No? I'm quite certain that this is where all the cucks hang out on /vt/
>>4680353She said the name of the tournament, but I wasn't paying attention to that.
>>4680263And being a manlet
>>4680387fuck I'm only one of those things
>>4680353it's supposed to be tempostorm so argubly half and half
Nice thread deadbeats
>>4680350Also the one with the most views like wth kek. Where do these people come from? Is mori actually the leech in this collab not the other way around?
>>4680388All she wants to do is have sex, people thinking she joined hololive to boost her music career are absurd, she joined hololive to coerce asian manlets into fucking her and nothing more. All her awkwardness is pent up sexual energy.
>Lie about getting a pro to help you git gudJesus Calli just fucking tell people you want to collab with your bro. This is a blatant play to avoid having to deal with public backlash from unicornfags.Gigguk is fine.Males are fine.Playing Shadowverse is fine.But don't fucking lie about what you actually want to do out of fear it's going to cost your position.
>>4680067This is pretty disrespectful considering most of the Hololive girls do want to be idols. Watame literally had a birthday stream in her idol costume today. If you don't like idol stuff thats fine but you should keep in mind that the original Hololive girls still want to be viewed that way and you're entering in to what they built so you should respect idol culture for that alone.
>>4680390ogey, retard
Gigguk was shitting on Hololive a month or so back because the hype was over and he thought they were too fake compared to V-Shojo.What changed?
I don't mind Mori being enthusiastic in a stream with someone that she's friends with. I just hope that during her next few solo and in-holo collab streams she will at least be similarly energetic. These last few weeks there have been a couple too many low-energy streams where she was just watching the clock to hit the 2 hour mark
>>4680455he put his head between calli's thighs, clearly
>>4680434He literally has the grandmaster rank, is that not skilled enough for you?
>>4680437>most of the Hololive girls do want to be idolsDYRBI
>>4680291go back to plebbit
>>4680430gigguk has nearly 3 mil subs
>>4680387Garnt is 1.83m
>>4680263no you just have to be a jrapper who got noticed on tumblr around the time kill la kill was airing
>>4680437>Collabing/Talking with a guy means they are fuckingReally? I don't wanna respect a bunch of insecure weebs whining in 4chan and youtube
>>4680525Yes considering most of them are paying out of their own pocket to create original songs and they all take dance lessons so they can do 3D shows.
>>4680461This, looking forward to significant improvement from her when Calligula tries RCG again next week.
>>4676095>>4677606>>4677771Their schizophrenia is so bad to the point of despising their own kin. That's both hilarious and pitiful.
>>4680395>>4680412It's an actual tournament? Why would she bother learning, there's no way her or kiara is going to win in a real match. Should've made their own little tourney
>>4680455mori sucked on his little noodle
>>4680614Just like Mori is doing?
>>4680430Unironically Gigguk is more popular than Mori so if anything she's the one gaining from this.
>>4680419The absolute state of /morig/
>>4680606How about the fact Gigguk is just a faggot who has shittalked Hololive in the past and doesn't belong anywhere near it. Not everything it about dicks, Freud.
>>4680517>Not a professional Shadowverse player.His actual rank is irrelevant. She could've just said "Gigguk turned out to be good at Shadowverse so he's gonna help me git gud for a tournament later this month". No need to beat around the bush unless she's afraid of something.
>>4680629guac
>>4680437Watame wants to perform at the budokan. You don't get to do that without sucking some dicks
>>4680437I didn't say I didn't like idol stuff, I said I don't want the girls to have to choose between their careers and having an actual life.If they want to be alone forever with their audience, that's fine. But if they want to have a normal life at the same time I don't want that to be closed off from them because some retard finds it objectionable for one reason or another.It's going to result in graduations at best and bitter, washed up idols at worst.
>Scythe swinging lessons were actually about her swinging with other married couples>This is how she met and got to know Gigguk and his wife
>>4680461>I just hope that during her next few solo and in-holo collab streams she will at least be similarly energeticWhy? She clearly reserves this type of energy for her real friends and not coworkers, like Gura, or her fans.
>>4680667Gaining more normies and retards isn't a good thing, that was the same problem with the TT shit.
>>4679853Here's the thing, if the regular game-stream collabs with your genmates are such an odious chore to you that you can't be arsed to either prepare the technical aspects beforehand or at least muster up the enthusiasm during the collab to make it enjoyable.... then just stop having (or at least heavily reduce) the regular game collabs in the first place.I'd much rather have just 1 collab per week that's actual quality, instead of 3 where she she just boredly phones it in to reach some imaginary "quota" or whatever causes this behavior.And for the love of god - don't be so autistically averse against doing a nice and simple pure talking collab. Not everything has to be a game (in fact, the more you concentrate on a game, the worse the collab usually is, and the best collabs have been when the game takes a backseat and they are actually just talking normally to each other). This would also help you with your unpreparedness-issue, because when it's just talking there's not tech stuff for you to fuck up.
>>4680730This would be funny if she had anyone to swing with.
>>4680693Why guac me dude, I'm telling the truth. Casuals don't play in tournaments. They're both getting otk'ed
>>4679659That's a good explanation, thanks. Anxiety due to plan after plan falling through could definitely be a factor in her sounding much more excited today. Goes to show how long of a way a little prep can go.
>>4680121>It's can't be "Oops, it's all trash taste!"What would you bet?
>>4680766Holy fuck, I agree! With the second half. She loves collabing with her genmates.
>>4680705Define normal life, not everyone wants to insert a dick inside their vagina anon... Having a boyfriend isn't everything in this life, and some of them are working behind the scenes to have a life after they stop being an Idol
>>4680677yeh just like any of you used to cringe at the word vtubers. Lmao people change ever heard of that? You can't just give me a proof from 5 years ago and say that it's still eligable
>>4680857Sure I like to live on the edge, but this will be a losing bet for sure.
>>4680932>yeh just like any of you used to cringe at the word vtubers.You got any proof of that? Would love to see you pull up my entire posting history and point out exactly where I said that.
>>4680791>>4680693
>>4680705>But I don't want them to have to choose between showbiz and a normal lifeToo bad, literally every actor and every big musician has to deal with this. If you don't want to have your every move watched by thousands of people then don't go for a career about being watched constantly by thousands of people. You cannot have your cake and eat it too.
She's collabing with people that she says were setup by shadowverse but there's no sponsored tag. She says she wants to uplift indies but these people are big already. Why not reach out to shadowverse indies that are small creators? She wants to burst her bubble but this looks like she just wants to hang out with friends. It is true then that she didn't want to reveal them because they are obviously going against everything that she said. She could have just said that she finally gotten permission to play with her friends. That's it. This whole charade is tiring.
>>4680922No holos have any plans on what to do after they graduate other than korone and ollie.
>>4680979Proofbeat... Just watch the streams onegai...
JWU, how’s the collab going?
>>4680932See here's the problem. You don't see a problem with ironic weeb cancer because you are ironic weeb cancer that jumped on vtubers this year.
>>4681062Teaching session.
>>4681062It's alright, she seems to be actually learning something.
>>4680979Anon don't be a saint every weeb/normie is like this or basically just anyone is hypocrite. And don't give me the "If you can't provide proof, IT ISNT REAL" argument
>>4681026Doesn't it get tiring posting the same thing every sixty seconds or is this the power of not taking your meds
>>4681061Pull up exactly where I said vtubers were cringe, since apparently I did at some point.
>>4681026>This whole charade is tiring.I agree, you should stop pretending you enjoy watching EN streams to shitpost and go back to /hlg/
>>4681062Her best sv stream unironically. With the most views too nonetheless. It's ironic how this might be one of her best streams this week. I count the collab and asmr as next week
>>4681081>You don't have any problem with weeb cancer>I just stated that i didComprehension reps onegai..
>>4680766Yes, Mori is actually good at talking in collabs when she's not focusing on a game, see the full gen drawing collab on Ina's channel where she actually carried a lot of the conversation.
>>4681062Gigguk is the most engaged with the collab./vt/ is flipping their shit because Mori basically lied about the true nature of the collab.The HoloBass fiasco is already forgotten.For once the board isn't 30% Kiara threads.I am at peace.
>>4681126I watch her because even when she stumbles she was being honest. This is the first time that she has actively lied about stuff.
>>4680321Gigguk itself is pretty inoffensive, besides general anituber faggotry - but the circles and people surrounding him are bad and people are rightfully apprehensive that this is just going to further the integration with people that anons REALLY don't like.It's similar to the Ironmouse thing, she may be the "least disliked" Vshojo, but that still doesn't mean that anons are going to like it because it still means inroads for the other shitters (especially because TT and Vshojo already have some overlap, so it's even more inevitable to get dragged down in their swamp when you give any of them a contact)
>newbeats replying to bait instead of just talking about the content of the streamNgmi...
As much as I love Calli, I draw the line at Gigguk. Unsubbed, lots of other hardworking Holos who'd love the donaysh. See ya guys.
>>4680434>unicornfags>MoriHow? Half her discography has guest verses from males.
>>4681177>holobass fiascoWhat happened? I thought the dude was in high regards.
>>4681227guac
>>4681227>Towappi pichmmmmm
>>4681189ogey
>>4681189I also don't care that it's Gigguk or Connor. I care about the statements that she made when announcing these collabs.
This doesn't look like the roach I remember from playing years ago. Then again I think it got nerfed, because lord was that some degenerate shit.
>>4681227ogey.
>>4681227Bye bye, get filtered lmao
>>4673908what kind of "men" aka supa this stream?
>>4681177>>4681255
>Look /vt/, I'm an Anon like you! Ogey and rrat, fuck nijis amirite? Please clap
>>4681062This might actually be the best stream since the break.
shadowverse is so fucking boring to watch and I have no clue what is going onwhy does she keep playing this shit
>>4681250Ame performed Pop on Rocks during the charity stream and he went full retard over 'muh permissions!', then wiped his Twitter.
>>4681328do your archive reps and >>4681306
>>4681210>the content of the streamBro, it's fucking shadowverse.
>>4680795If a plan is disrupted she no joke gets her mood absolutely shit on if she has to 'make up for it'. Valentines date stream, clubhouse 51 with kiara is the finest example of not being in the mood because her plan got disrupted. I have no fucking clue what happened in between the RCG stream being postponed and the Cuphead stream making up for it but if I want to put Mori in good faith she probably most likely was absolutely devastated.At the most extreme, I want to tell Mori she's an absolute emotional mess when that sort of stuff happens but if I just space out a bit and stop focusing on stuff on the internet so much I don't really care since this effects Mori more than it does me.Though I do wonder why she's so out of it on the following ITT streams with Kiara most of the time but seems genuinely excited collabing with Gigguk over shadowverse. It's probably not that deep since he's like an internet celebrity or something
>>4681210This is literally an anti thread, the only reason to click it is to argue with schizos
>>4681177>Mori says she'll collab with someone who isn't a vtuber >collabs with someone who isn't a vtuber >"WTF MORI LIED"
>>4681195I think the dude has shitty opinions and his content is mostly mediocre but out of other anitubers I think his content is the best. Plus as can be seen the dude can be entertaining.
>>4681227Can't even enjoy Mori being cute and excited, adios!
>>4681250Cover copystriked his content on Spotify when he monetized it, and then (according to him) ghosted him when he tried to negotiate getting it put back up. That was a couple of months ago.Last night, Ame did Pop on Rocks for karaoke, and he proceeded to sperg out on Twitter after the fact and mentioned possibly copystriking the stream because Cover wouldn't contact him over the use of Pop on Rocks.Those are the facts. Please use these to breed the rrats you feel fit breeding.
>>4681195>general anituber faggotrywhat does that mean?
>>4681377>>4681387Tourist and redditors usually raid us so it's bound to happen
>>4680689>>4680434Gigguk is paid to promote shadowverse
>>4680766>And for the love of god - don't be so autistically averse against doing a nice and simple pure talking collab. Not everything has to be a gameSilly anon.. she cant do a talk stream if she doesnt want to interact with her coworker
Cant believe Gigguk cured her collab autism.
>>4681368lmfo, goddamn that is hilarious. If only he realized the fatal error in his grubby permission holding plan was that his song uses Amelia’s own voice rendering his shitty copyright useless.
>>4680067based>>4680437cry more weeb
>>4681387>Mori says she wants to uplift indies>Collabs with somebody more popular than her>Mori says she wants to get advice from pros>Gets a man who pretty much only plays the game when he's paid to just because he's her friend.Yes, anon, "lied".
>>4680035Fake type will be next.
>laughing her ass off nowHOW? Compare this to the Kiara battle, holy shit.
>>4681445Promoter is a very different job than Player in every entertainment industry that is not Wrestling. Even in wrestling you don't typically get much overlap.Gigguk does not play Shadowverse as a professional Shadowverse player. He is a promoter in marketing.
>>4681057Oh. What are their plans?
>>4681531>AO or Dyes turn out to be massive gachafagsI would love to see it.
>>4681510ogey
>>4681062It's... good? I honestly can't really find fault there. She knows what she's doing, talks normallly, is prepared well and energetic. Gigguk is polite and acts professionally and he's actually able to explain things and seems to know well what he's doing. Also I didn't hear a single shitty overused meme once.
>>4681413No rrats. He later retracted his statements and apologised. We're not like the cancerous retards at twitter. >we forgive
>>4681057Yeah sure cause every chuba has the obligation to told you retards their future plan. Stop coping and being delusional anon, they are nothing but entertainer, not ur friend
>>4681413The more I hear about this fag the harder I laugh at him each time.
>>4681510>uplift indiesyeah? and she's probably still going to do that, she never said she was going to do that in the shadowverse stream dummy
>>4681533Your boy with da boys, pls andastd
is stream stuttering for anyone else?
>>4681589Gigguk literally is the best guy out the TT podcast, and is really a chill guy.
>>4681533>>4681477Fake lesbian work relationship vs Genuine attractionCompare this stream to her collabs with basically every holo and you can tell how much she doesn't like or get along with her coworkers.
>>4681575Ollie is planning to be a dev
Her next solo stream is asmr drawing huh? Hope she gets to chat more rather than just draw stylus noises for two hours and calls it a day
>>4681533Rev up those "Mori always hated Kiara and couldn't wait for her to leave Japan so she could hang out with her REAL friends" rrats
Okay, giving big ups ot donations to your collab partner just made me completely lose my shit.>>4681250Miziuryu Kei - EN edition. We joke about Hololive members being menheras all the time, but it seems the real menheras were fans all along.
While I give sv streams and e-celeb collabs a hard pass, I realize these past five months since finding Mori I've gotten a lot more positives out of watching her streams and following her than I have negatives. There's no point in being envious of anyone who gets to collab with her. That's fag behaviour. I'm going to focus on how she inspires me to work hard and keep practicing my drawing and music making skills. I've already wasted enough time doing far too little
>>4681683MORI HATES WEEBS!
>Check stream out of curiosity>Its actually pretty coolHuh...
>GUH-rantMori you're such a fucking spaz lmao
>>4681683>attractionnigga what
>>4681510She also said that shadowverse setup this collab?? Are we sure about that? Or is it just the actual tournament? There is no promotion tag anywhere
>>4681669This. While he does still have shit taste in anime, I still think he can be entertaining and chill.
>MORI >HAS A DEMON DeckONE STREAM.
>>4681533wasn't she hella sleepy during that collab? Or I'd imagine losing multiple matches in a row and spending the whole time reading cards you've never read made it rough for her. Also, she seemed to prep a lot more for this if she really played all day
I just hope next time Mori wants to collab with her friends, she just openly says "I'm collabing with my friends" instead of this "Indies and non-vtubers" bullshit pretense.
>>4681743She's in a good mood, enjoying herself, and there's no scuff. She's actually learning and he's not being a faggot. It's going as well as it possibly could.
Based
>>4681821Did she toss Craps Devil in there? ONE DECK
>>4681375>Though I do wonder why she's so out of it on the following ITT streams with Kiara most of the time but seems genuinely excited collabing with Gigguk over shadowverse. It's probably not that deep since he's like an internet celebrity or somethingHere's the thing, she actually hangs out with Gigguk and the TT circle IRL, so you're seeing Mori in her rare "being with friends"-mode. You don't see that kind of chemistry with her supposed genmates and people have been excusing that by claiming autism and "it just takes her a lot of time to get comfy", and the TT people have the unfair advantage of actually being close to her so they could have the necessary drinking buddy sessions it takes to speed up this process with Mori. Kiara also felt more naturally closer with her during the time they were both in Japan, unfortunately Kiara doesn't drink so there's a natural barrier to breaking through to her and getting on the same vibe as Mori, and now that she's away again Mori has regressed again to phoning that long distance relationship in (quite literally)
>>4680922"Whatever they want to do outside of streaming", anon.If the company is forcing you to get impregnated to satisfy your mandated life fulfillment quota that's not exactly what I meant.>>4681004>You cannot have your cake and eat it tooHas the internet entirely passed you by? Are you posting here via the fucking reverberations your rock-banging is making being picked up by a passing satellite? She's a YouTuber. Have you never seen a married YouTuber? They're all over the place.It might be untenable if she wants to maintain both her current and former careers at the same time but it's not like there's some great sacrifice the company is requiring her to make other than trying to avoid triggering socially-defunct autists.
>>4681669Ye, I don't really have much against him besides him having shit opinions about anime. But I can hold that against a large number of people starting from Mori so the point is somewhat moot.
>>4681872Based.Still enjoying this collab though
>ywn get your noodle sucked by two big titty weebs at the same timeGigguk just keeps winning
>>4681798Cygames totally set up this collab of casual games between friends with no stakes and little actual promotion. Why does she have to be like this
>>4681872FUCK you >:( trying to make mori feel bad when shes just enjoying herself
>>4681872"Your boy won't read every single red superchat, for various reasons"
Cardgame autist, how's Mori doing with this new deck?
>>4681872[message deleted]
t3beat since day 1 here. Have been skipping every single SV stream since the first one with the rap. I don't care about the collab partner either but I just want to point and laugh at the niggers who thought that the guests would be pros and not influencer friends like Gigguk.I'll guac myself too so you faggots can save the (you).
>>4681872Did she remove that Super? I didn’t see it when I checked
>>4681798When did she say Shadowverse set it up? If it was in this stream, that's grounds for a ban all on its own.
>>4681968>won't read aloud she's still going to read it anon
>>4681975Based
I tried to look up the rules of shadowverse but I still have no fuckin clue whats happening
>>4681872Why are cumchuds like this?
>4k on garnt's side>15k on her sideSo where do the rest if the people come from? Her SV streams never get this much views.
>>4681977J likely falgged it s spam, you hve to change top->all
>>4681997It got deleted
>>4681930Just watch me
>>4681977yup it's gone nowas it should be.
>>4681976>t3beat since day 1 here.t. t1 that upgraded to t3 right before making ths post
>>4682015Probably just people interested in the collab aspect.
>>4681885>you're seeing Mori in her rare "being with friends"-mode.While I disagree with your drinking partner rrat, I do agree that friendliness or at least actual acquaintance is extremely good for collabs as we’re seeing.
>>4681872this is quite harsh. She's already beating herself up over stuff like 2 days ago so I can see this possibly having her actually address this if she sees it
>>4681976ogey
>>4681872you guys are going to post similar things in the VOD comments, right?
>>4681905>Has the internet passed you byHow could it when any given twitter post could literally get say an actor or director kicked off a project because people don't like what they said.
>>4682051>>4682048It's still there
>>4682015hate watchers out in full force today.
>>4682015He's an anime Youtuber. Most of his audience is on Youtube and doesn't watch Twitch.
>>4681979Didn't she say cygames will set her and kiara up with pros for the tournament?
>>4681872Too based
>>4682109I absolutely expect the SEAs to laugh and jump on it.
>>4681976d10 here. Guac
>>4681885I actually wanted to convince Kiara to do one drinking stream with Mori. I don't see it happening as Kiara really hates the taste but it could've been an interesting dynamic and I'm sure Mori would gladly drink with any genmate
>>4682109Yeah obviously she needs to >>4682091
Holy crackers! I'm a huge Trash Taste weeb and love Grant aka Gigg United Kingdom Arizona (LOL) so this stream is absolutely huge. Looking forward to more collabs with the TT boys and hope Mori gets on the podcast again. They all hang out together IRL after all!
>>4682145It will be one coach. This stream wasn't set up by them and not even sponsored.
>>468212620k likes vs 400 dislikes though, literally where do these people come from.>>4682144Makes sense, but 15k? She barely got 5k on the last one. A lot of greyfaggots too.
>>4682187>>4682109inb4 the comments are disabled within 24 hours and/or the VOD is taken down entirely."Oh well it was because I said it was sponsored when it wasn't actually sponsored, so I didn't want to get in trouble"Screencap this post.
>>4682056If it helps you sleep at night anon.
>>4682126>haters boosting your boys numbersYou love to see it
>>4682071Connor has said they hangout every now and then. And its stated that trash taste takes their guests out for drinks after an episode.
>>4681976cope cumkek gb to global
>>4682198>8 monthsAll that means is that you throw more money at her, not that you're an oldfag, so I don't understand your fucking point.
>>4682109Yep, I've already prepared my comment.
>>4682091Its harsh but it has a point. She constantly gushes about how she loves her coworkers but then is a C+ collab partner at best barring certain exceptions, but get this guy "she totally only knows from that podcast she was on" and she's laughing and having the time of her life it just gives the "Mori doesn't care about Hololive" rrat more life
>>4682145Yes, she specifically said that this one is not sponsored, so it's different from the official training stream. Which means we still have at least 3 sv streams to go through
>>4682198>membered to a channel that hasn't produced membership content in over 9 monthsanon...why are you spending your money like this...
>>4682246>Kiara drinkingShe already shittalks a lot about everybody, that would be a disaster.
>>4682329>Copebeats moan that she's not bringing her A game to collabs>She finally does and they double down on moaningguac
am I retarded? How did calli not just win there?
>>4682280>Oh well it was because I said it was sponsored when it wasn't actually sponsoredWhere did she say this?
>>4682280She didn't say it was sponsored.
oira'd
>I hate dragons!Coco.... Don't watch....
>>4682246Would be fun but the most likely drinking collab would be a zatsudan one with Ina, pretty sure she's open to drinking. Gura would be good too but...
>>4682411>>4682449>"Shadowverse set this collab up">Not sponsoredogey
>>4681872That's the difference between collabing with someone you want playing something you want instead of being trapped with an unfunny retard watching literal reddit memes for one hour.
>>4682405Like I said she feeds the rrats by coincidentally bringing her A game to collabs she is personally invested in and then keeps repeating to everybody "Oh I love all members of Hololive" Almost like she is trying to convince herself its true
>>4682380Kek, she literally just did yesterday during the member's stream. When someone from EN plays scarlet nexus we'll know who she was talking about
>>4682495she can be lame and drink water, mori of all people isnt gonna push someone to drink if they dont want to
>>4682509Get back to me with a timestamp.
>>4682091What happened 2 days ago?
>>4682071>While I disagree with your drinking partner rratroomie reps, my dude. And I also didn't even meant it negatively - like you said, it's actually good to see Mori being an enthusiastic collab partner again, but I also think that it's reasonable for other people to be disappointed with the contrast when (not if, because it happened too many times so everyone could notice the pattern) Mori puts out an underwhelming performance in a regular collab with her actual genmates again, and questions are gonna be asked.I'm also at least partially sympathetic to the comments of it being kinda scummy of her to hide it behind a "mystery collab" and she could've just dropped the pretense and be open from the start about how she wants to hang out with her RL friend.Again, I'd not even be mad at that, because you can see the actual collab itself as one of her better chemistries, so just cut the bs around it and let everybody know what they/you are already thinking anways.
>>4682509>>4682411I'm on your side retard, where did she say that
>>4682509They literally said just now it's not sponsored
It /hlgg/ ogey? They seem to be schitzoing hard.
>literally just said it isn't sponsoredOh no not the rrats
>>4682329I understand the point but she will for sure look at the unusual amount of dislikes and there's bound to be a comment or two she looks at that will get her to respond somehow (whether it's twitter or on stream). I do want her to actually bounce off her genmates more though
>>4682406She's just even more retarded than you.
>>4682329>The collabed with Watame and friends was shit>The TTRPG stream was shit>Collab with coco was shit because she said she was nervous..Bitch your not allowed to be nervous>Collabed with Gura was shit. The scuffed ruined it all all throughout even PHASMO!!guac
>>4682620they didn't get the Yab they were expecting because gigguk is chill. So they're seething hard, now.
>>4682524You know she's the one that chatted up Coco for that collab? And that she keeps saying that she respects her? Coco did everything for her on that collab.
>>4682693Guac would've sufficed. Posters like that don't listen to reason
>>4682509do your archive reps..onegai..Even i remember her saying she will stream SV even if it's not sponsored
>>4682652She already knows there's going to be unicorn seethe and prepped herself for it, that's why she delayed announcing the collab partner.
>>4682524>being trapped with an unfunny retard watching literal reddit memes for one hourThe TT guys are literal reddit tier.And now you're coping by saying Mori was "forced" to collab with Coco and didn't want it, to excuse her poor performance? Weren't deadbraps cooing about how much she likes her and pushed for the collab before? "woooh, first EN to collab with Coco, what a trailblazer!"
Mori wiggling back and forth so much is so cute!
>>4682725And the Meme Review was Coco's idea.
>>4682317I’ve explained it before in previous threads, but to tell it again I’m very apprehensive about spending money in certain ways and the upsides computer backgrounds and 1 (uno) extra stream weren’t enticing enough for me to purchase at the time. As this conversation is showing, I regret not doing it sooner.>>4682369Mostly just autism, Voland Voxel is my oshi so whether or not I got t1-t3 I wanted to make sure I was supporting 6D66 first.
Bros Mori is being so cute in this collab, feels like forever since we've seen excited Moririn.
ああ , 疲れた ...
>>4682698I'd actually say this collab is doing well more because of Gigguk. He's the one that's making her focus more on the game rather than be invasive and talk about stuff unrelated to what they're playing.
the word "cope" and that watame reaction pic have the same energy
>>4682730yeah just keep those guac coming
Mori's enthusiasm with Gura is fine. Literally every collab they have together people praise them including the phasmaphobia section of the last collab. She mostly does fine with Kiara but sometimes they just don't seem to work together (like the Takamori Q and A) not to breed rrats but I think it has to do with whether or not they are getting along before the collab since they are two very different people. Otherwise Mori doesn't really collab with the rest of her Gen much and that probably comes down to a lack of comfort or similarities. Overall I don't think we're really seeing anything different in her interaction with Gigguk from when there's a good Gura or Kiara collab.
>>4682844TTRPG...
>>4682405>Brings her A-Game only to collabs SHE cares aboutThis isn't a double standard. Mori is outright drawing the line that she is not engaged with the majority of collabs that are not directly relevant to her interests.Collabs that Mori has been engaged in:>Korobeats collab to go over the RIP Contest entrants, where she spent most of the time herself talking.>TakaMori Q&A/Karaoke collab, which was music and zatsudan>All-gen drawing collab, which was just zatsudan>Korone collab, because Korone triggered her English Teacher habits.>WOD collab>The current collabEvery other collab she's had was mediocre at best and actively hurt by her presence at worst.She's supposed to hang out with Watame and her complete fucking apathy is going to hurt that poor sheep. If you're not going to get mad at Mori for being unengaged with 80% of her collabs, then get mad at Mori for hurting other girls' feelings.
>>4682785>>4682809
>>4682785guac
>>4682524well the TT dudes use and love their reddit for memes it's just that Mori hates hololive ones which I get but it doesn't work if she just groans when she could just roast the shitty memes
>>4682896I just said feels like forever, not that it's actually been forever. She had the break and the streams back have been pretty low energy.
>>4682897Ogey
>>4682897>>4682934>>4682873>>4682693
>>4682693TTRPG was the exception I mentioned >>4682541because she was personally invested in the game, its her pet project so she gives 110%. I don't know why you bring up meme review when everybody even Coco was worried something was wrong by how poorly she was doing and Mori herself admitted she didn't really give a good performance. Scuff during Gura could have been forgiven if it was the first or even second time this happened but it wasn't and she was stubborn about it so backlash happened.
>>4682897Instead I will choose not to get mad at her for completely imagined slights on other people who can choose at any time to not entertain her presence.
She's going to host a collab with Coco and Ollie. Let's see if she will be consistent or it will just be a turn for the worst.
>>4682764Is this going to be the 2nd purge? I thought unicorns already left. It seems more like unicorns from other fanbases tuning in to shit on her. Kinda pathetic though how the janny arc managed to get more dislikes than this
>>4682595I refer to the Gura collab and what she did responding to people hating the scuff
>>4682897Why should I get mad?I get the need for a critical mindset and a few choice words her way. But getting mad doesn’t let you enjoy a lot of things.
>Mori actually improved.color me surprised, she's not this good during the original Kiara collab.
>>4682897You should really add all the Takamori off collabs to this list, those were great, and Calligula minecraft where they talked about music was good too
She's so happy, bros...
>>4682987coz you act like she's the worst collab partner possiblealso here>>4682934
>>4682693I enjoyed the Watame, Kiara, Iofi collab and the TTRPG where she prepped very well
>That counter throwBro...
>>4682897I don't know how she can be with Watame but I hope Watame wouldn't be too eager. She's such an earnest person.
>>4683103>Watame, Kiara, Iofi collabMan, that was hard to listen to, though that's probably on the sheep misadjusting everyone's volumes.
>>4683066
>>4682897>80%guac
>>4683066Idk how you can look at that face and be angry at her. Copebeats are truly something else.
>>4682897>TakaMori Q&ABut that stream is literally the worst stream Mori has ever done?
>>4683169Despite only making up 20% of collabs they commit 50% of the yabs
>THAT'S MY WIFE>THAT'S MY WIFEholy fuck, takamori and KFP on literal suicide watch...
>>4683084Name a worse collab partner in Hololive. I am being serious. Even noted social wrecks like Pekora and Aqua try their best in collabs to sound like their having fun and engaging as much as they can, also their social awkwardness is not as selective as Mori's seems to be.
>>4683188it's just a bunch of people in /hlgg/ and redditors coming for a visit here and in global just to shit on mori because despite all the seething her numbers are still stable
>>4683145You could literally see Mori's mouth moving and laughing but couldn't hear anything, it was fully on the fucked volume adjustments.
>>4683238>yuribait + Q&AWho would have guessed?
>>4683142Because that's exactly what Watame needs. More issues about "Father figures" not caring about her.
>>4682897>>4683142Goddamn filthy eop clipwatchers reeeee. Watame's like that to most of the girls, stop acting like callie is someone special. You retarded antis are actually inflating her ego saying how much her senpais want to collab with her. Literall no one cares, it's all kayfabe. What happened to polka huh? Could've sworn filthy eops like you were saying how smitten she was with callie. Literal retards
>>4683285guac
>>4683034was she super sleepy during that one? I know she mentioned she was quiet reading all the cards (losing probs didn't help) and this time she actually played the game all day apparently so it's quite different
>>4683285>name a worst collab partnerSomeone you just met and is force to collab for some reason because you're in the same company. here's the last (You) your gonna get retard
>>4683285ogey
>>4683188Well, I'm kinda disappointed she couldn't drum up even half of this enthusiasm when playing with shitbird. Like, what gives?
>>4683238But Mori was engaged in the trainwreck. Just having a bad collab is fine; look at Lethal League Blaze. The point is for everyone to be engaged in it together and how terrible it is.That's why Recorder Rap Battle was cringekino and why Meme Review was a travesty that should be deleted from existence. Both are terrible, but in the former both participants were engaged in how terrible it was while in the latter Coco literally had to say "let's both fuck Yagoo" to get her to snap back to reality.
>>4683145watame totally sucked at the audio balancing I agree. Iofi destroyed my ears and the others were too quiet sometimes. That is my main criticism but besides that they seemed to bounce off quite well (Watame really wanted to engage with everyone it seemed)
>>4683285>>4683360>>4682934
>>4683324None of that was the problem, I'm actually one of the few people here that actually still likes takamori, but that stream wasn't bad because it was a q&a or because of "yuribaiting", it was bad because Mori was acting like a fucking retard.
>>4683362Last time was her second time playing a CCG ever. So yeah, she was reading the cards and concentrating super hard. She said as much during the stream.
>>4683278what happened?
>>4683360I don't know any "guac" in Hololive. What gen are they in? What do their numbers look like? Link me a collab with them sandbagging so I can see it for myself.
>>4683389Don’t know, while I hope she’s better in the future. At least enjoy this collab for what it is.
>>4683238>worstnot even it was decent got to know somr info regarding our boi
>>4683449She played a waifu card, yelled THAT'S MY WIFE twice, and got a hit on gigguk
>>4683389Card games are hard to learn from zero and they're kind of tedious and irritating until it starts to click. Gigguk explained shit to her and helped clarify how to play her deck so she's actually engaged with the game instead of just trying to get over it.
>>4681885>unfortunately Kiara doesn't drinkbased TradwifeBut the cost is a Kino Collab that never will Happen
>>4683389Kiara is a shitty failed idol with sub indie views who literally had a meltdown when she couldn't get sponsored to play scarlet nexus unlike a certain genmate of hers.
>she actually wonAlready an improvement.
>>4683449She did the thing every Shadowverse player does and called one of the cards her wife.
>>4683458Guac
>>4683506So basically, pitting two complete noobs against each other was not a good stream idea. Naruhodo.
>>4683404>Meme Review was a travesty that should be deleted from existenceI mean I bear the same feelings about the entirety of Meme Review but I did enjoy the one with Mori because of its sufferkino and Coco’s jabs.
>>4683458guac
>Cinderella Girls OPKAGAYAKU KAGAYAKU
>>4683389She didn't have time to prepare properly and was busy struggling trying to figure out how to play her decks. Now she's practiced and knows what she's doing, so it should be much better next time.
>>4683324I don't even think that was it because there was that collab question she outright refused to answer for some reason and just gave a pity answer. Dunno what was up with Mori there
>>4683525Glad to see it
I miss early April
>played it since morningGoddamnit, we could've had a mori that's this passionate about yu gi oh and duel links instead. Wtf konami
>>4683578They should have done the coaching streams before facing each other. There's a lot of easy mistakes and misconceptions that a new player just wouldn't notice until they are pointed out.
Gigguk getting pissed over Calli's overpowered wife is honestly pretty funny.
>>4683565Just answer or admit you got nothing so we can move on.
>>4683634She was clearly sleepy. She picked herself up midway. Should've had her morning coffee first desu
>>4683694tbf Halle is cute
>>4683677>they should have done the coaching streams before facing each otherThat would’ve been so much better, but it’s not like we can change that now.
All this doomposting and all I'm seeing is that Mori is finally back in the groove of streaming after coming back from break.She's happy, the content is actually decent, and she's causing all of /vt/ to seethe. This is Mori in peak condition
>>4683515wait who is sponsered to play scarlet nexus?
>>4683389I hope it's better next time as before she seemed tired and literally didn't understand a good portion of the mechanics that Kiara had to explain to her
>>4683717Here’s a hint:What goes well with tacos?
>>4683729It should have been the offcollab like it was originally planned and not literally the first stream after their trip.
>>4683741Let's hope she keeps this momentum up for the rest of her planned streams for the week
>>4683717Guac
>>4683022Wasn't that two weeks ago? The "we were here too" or is there a collab that got unlisted or something?
>>4683729I guess but that response to the question was still wack
>>4683754People were guessing ina. Ina's numbers are way bigger than kiara, so it'd make sense that they would reject kiara and choose ina instead.
The deck has no fucking win condition isn't it?
>>4683615That was pretty silly to see that stage with Syoko
>>4683816No, he meant the Cuphead stream that got killed and replaced by a Phasmo stream that she privated and then made unlisted because some of the big name gachis made their frustration known in the comments.
>>4683869Was it not gura? Scarlet Nexus is a DMC rip off isn't it?
>>4683515>had a meltdown when she couldn't get sponsored to play scarlet nexusKek if true
>gigguk acted like an aniki. >/hlgg/ didn't get the YAB>Mori actually won 2 timesIT'S A GOOD THING.
>>4683578Kiara isn't a noob though. She hadn't played Shadowverse before, but has years of experience playing MtG, which is easy to translate into other CCGs and the reason she steamrolled Calli as much as she did. She could've done the same casual tutorial stream with Mori that they're doing now, but instead Cygames decided to pit them against each other.
>>4683926Oh right, forgot about that, so what exactly happened there? I saw a short clip about technical difficulties or something
>>4683926>some of the big name gachis made their frustration known in the commentsDid they actually? That’s hilariously retarded. I hope it teaches her a lesson in how much she should value their opinion.
>>4683876hitting face is the wincon
>>4683926>some of the big name gachisWasn't it literally one guy and the others are nonames?
>>4683578Kiara picked things up much faster than Mori.
>>4680067I'm pretty sure that most, if not the majority of the girls in Hololive is currently in a relationship (Cover doesn't actually ban relationships in general for their talents,they're just not allowed between coworkers apparently).
>>4684013yes, 2 of the early top gachis gave her a slap
>I hope we can collab again somedaywhinebeats on life support
>>4683989Im loving the stream so far it’s strangely wholesome and the cherry on top is seeing /vt/ seething
>>4683876She discarded the wincon card like 4 times
>>4683741I am confused on many levels because I can't raise any complaints about the stream. It quite literally addresses every single complaing this place raised against her previous streams.
>>4683876A G G R OAlso known as "The thinking man's playstyle">ControlfagsBoys who have no concept of being skilled enough to make punching your opponent work. They require you to "ask permission" to play THEIR game.>StunfagsLiteral children who don't even want to play the game. They would start a game of Klondike and complain that the cards aren't sorting themselves.
>>4684171>hating on Control.You're the cancer that killed MtG
>>4683947Her membership is cheap and I've membered her early on. Checked out her membership stream last night at the exact moment she was seething. She said she wanted to play scarlet nexus but was really seething that she couldn't get a sponsorship even though she's the one known as the rpg holo.
>>4684102two T3 herebeats posted, LC Lepen replied in support, and a couple more herebeats wanted to comment and missed out. Considering most of the people here are T3, I'd say yes. greynames on Twitter are seething and trying to send members death threats. She was right to disable the comments, specifically for that reason.
>>4684117she also just was more experienced in card games. There definitely was a power gap in that stream
>>4683741/vt/ will still seethe nonetheless, you know the drill anon
>>4684160I came in a bit lite, what were the best moments?
>>4684165Just that it's with someone outside of hololive but if she can carry this kind of momentum into her ollie coco collab it'll be alright. Would suck ass if the next collab hosted by her again would get Mori being unenthusiastic and awkward
>>4684171Based aggro mongoloid
>>4684211I don’t mind control, but I would admit that having aggro to keep them in check is a good thing
>>4684013>Bite the hand that feeds youLiterally the worst advice. Those are literally the only people whose opinions she should actually give some weight. They are the ones who have potential to stay with her for a while and support her as opposed to leaving when the next fad comes.
>>4684171I don't remember giving you permission to attack
>>4684232I’m glad she disabled comments, while I would’ve preferred this shitshow to never happen, I’m happy everything ended up being good in the end.
>>4684265Seeing Mori actually good in the game and their banters feel natural
>>4684232Every t3 herebeat is a hun that thinks spending their disability check on an anime girl should give them dominion over her
>>4684275she'll be forced to react by those two if she shuts down but Mario party is simple like that one knock off she played with the rest of EN
>>4684275If she does come out strong with Coco and Ollie then her legit improvement will worthy of celebration. If she doesn't well, things are just going to get worse.
>>4684211Hasbro and "investors" killed MtG
>>4684333>3CMCI’m missing something here
Wait... /hlgg/ said there would be a HUGE Yab and Hololive would die.
>>4684364she might not have had a choice with the comments. From what I understand if you make any stream edits the chat goes away and maybe the comments could've been affected too
>>4684396Is this jealousy from not being their name called? coz some of them actually gave good advice
>took inspirations from abroad in japan for her tripsKinda based
>>4684303Fair enough, I’m actually pretty happy with the outcome minus Mori’s severe reaction so I’ll tip one to our gachioki pals.But umm... still fuck them for making her feel like shit, the necessity of it aside.
>>4684455my t1 innocent blood followed by my t2 spore frog in 40hp format
>>4684482The chat gets nuked (because it's easier for YT to hide it than try re-timing messages), but comments stay. Removing the comments was her choice.
Which person does Calli actually have chemistry with?
>>4684482Nope, just live chat, she personally disabled comments and thank god she did.
Glad to see Mori in top form and disperse all of my concerns. Also am I wrong or there indeed wasn't a single "dad" shit here?>>4684275I just didn't expect a shadowverse to be enjoyable in general, no matter who that is with. Then again after Korone made me hype for a dragons lair stream almost a year ago why am I getting surprised by bad games making good streams.
Well that was nothing. She learned quite a lot I guess. What do now?
>>4684483No, it's the same people who wrote essays months ago when she mentioned off-hand in a member stream wanting to collab outside of Hololive (this was after they shot down all her indie collabs) about how she MUST respect hololive and idol culture and then posted them here to show everyone how cool they are.They are attention whoring schizos that only care about ordering her around.
>>4684547>>4684568oh ok. Well, I guess it made sense. I was actually caught off guard when she privated the stream in the first place
>>4684557Mori
>>4684598You could not be more off the mark.
>>4683634she pretty obviously wanted to say coco here and wasnt allowed lol
>>4684483Its a poorbeat who doesn't realize she doesn't get paid by magic. She can afford a better apartment than a shoebox because alot of people support her because they like what she was doing. If they don't like what she was doing then they can leave and not give her money anymore. They are not obligated to give support if they don't like what she is putting out and she lives off of that support.
>>4684211>Reserved List>Hasbro>Losing out a major marketing play to a literal who mangaka that made up a game on the spot and ended up taking that made up game to the #1 Global Bestselling slot.Yeah sure, Aggro ruined MtG.
>globalschizos in comments>actual memberbeats chiming in asking why she was better prepared todaycan you fucks just acknowledge she took the criticism over both SV and prep to heart and not giving her mixed feedback
>guac poster got bannedImage my surprise.
>>4684598Does these people seriously be pure idol culture translate in the west?
>>4684657Oh?
>>4684741I'm a fucking retard and misread your post.
>>4684696If I was Mori at that point I would be frustrated and depressed that trying my hardest still wasn't enough and how much the collab the other day just had too much unavoidable factors
>>4684681>The most popular character in said manga is based off an insufferable MTG manchild the mangaka met at a tourney one timeIts funny when you think about it.
>>4684557Her lil homie, Gura
>>4684589you mean in the stream? yeah no dad meme from Mori but I did see chat mention it only a handful of times as they always do
>>4684678She's can live off vod views alone. A woman who can afford a 1000$ novelty hat is well off enough and can afford to lose a few paypigs. Besides, the holo vt likes to doompost about, ollie, still has tons ofnred sc even after all the connor stuff.
>>4684507https://streamable.com/5iovceKill yourself for thinking she needs to be treated with kids gloves.
>>4684681YuGiOh also has its own problems, but is buoyed by its loyal fanbase and active Youtuber community that accepts the bullshit that happens
>>4684660probably but she could've made it way less weird and not sound like she was giving a pity answer
>>4684700guac
>>4684696haven't taken a look is it really that bad still? I mean I saw the red super from earlier
>>4683525She still barely knows what she's doing. That guy was either terrible at the game or let her win.
>>4684507based empathybeat
>>4684820Did it even occur to you how she can afford to blow $1000 on a novelty hat? Vod views do not pay as much as they used to and that's why streaming was viewed as a much more lucrative field than making videos and why many content creators made the jump or tried to diversify.
>>4684700Guac
>>4684696I only see greyniggers complaining.
>>4684700Please clap
>>4684828not same anon and I agree she doesn't need kid gloves but she did overreact and was a bit hurt with saying she should've taken a longer break. She seems motivated again now though so hopefully things go well
>>4684916Nah, it's just some greyniggers replying to comment. Dislikes are more than the usual but is probably just unicorns from other fanbases.
>>4684507listen, it's not like I was happy complaining about the stream, but seeing the improvements today I don't think it was wrong to point out what didn't workshe can do it, she's capable and whenever she succeeds I'm gonna cheer and say 'yeah, this rocked, more of this'>>4684916it's a bit bad, some folks are vocally mad about anitubers and the dislike ratio is pretty shit, but the collab was such a massive improvement compared to recent one that I hope my positive feedback goes throughI don't really mind Mori liking non-vtuber people, she admits that much and admitted wanting to befriend more vtubers specifically, so I don't see the point in dogpiling her over that
>>4685011Her power is the ability to recover
>>4684828I agree, but am I not allowed to get mad about them making her feel down?I respect their actions and criticism of her, especially since the final outcome was quite favorable. But fuck them for hurting her feelings.
>>4685023the graynames literally saying "fuck your members" are hilarious
>>4685011I mean if she wants to improve then she DOES need a longer break for things/projects she's currently working on so she could focus on streaming
>>4685028Can't see shit all i see are praises though and i scrolled decently enough
Deadbeats, I get it, you wanna have "your thing" but you aren't gonna make guac happen
>>4684934>Terrible>Grand Master
>>4684960You failed to explain ollie then. Did you aldo forgot she still got a ton of reds during the cuphead and the stream just now? Not from regulars? Gachikois are expendable, they come and go. Besides they're not a hivemind. It's been 8 months and she's actually earning more and gaining more views and subs
Look people need to let this stream be the reprieve and hope that we're seeing legit improvement.Now if she doesn't bring this level of A-game to the Coco and Ollie collab we should bring out the pitchforks and torches
>>4685028I’m not going to circlejerk you, but I was happy with the outcome of today's stream too.
>>4685190Mori set the expectation alright. Lethope the first two streams after the break was just a fluke
>>4685160It is whatever, I like the reference guac has, but we (yes >we) better be keeping the autism out of other threads
>>4685150Literally all the comments about enthusiasm are from this place. Fucking containment breakers. Makes me want to doxx the shit out of them. I mean shitpost all you want but I keep all my rrats here and not leak it into the public
>>4685028Some are frustrated about bringing anitubers on is they don't like them for their own reasons but Mori keeps trying to change their mind with "Look I like them so you should like them too". As any wrestling fan can tell you, telling an audience who they should like is a really bad idea and WILL create a hate base as they are pushed more. They already have their reasons for not liking TT and the like and trying to change their minds will just reinforce those reasons and make those feelings stronger.
>>4684678/vt/ is at best a vocal minority and very small representation of her fanbase. A handful of people here are not responsible for her financial success and she is not beholden to their schizophrenia.
>>4680067Don't worry, I'll be that someone.
>>4685241Excelt the zatsu was ogey? And the rcg one was more of a technical issue, she was happy there and interacted a lot with gura
>>4680419kek
>>4685270I honestly don't think she's trying to change anyone's mind. she likes those guys and their content and it's easy for her to connect, that's all, she's that simple of a person.
>>4683812I see you, Joshua
>>4685258I mean I did leave a kind comment, but I did it on my own accord.
>>4685100I agree she should make time for her collabs but she was clearly saying she should've stayed away from streaming for longer which was pretty dang negative on herself
>>4684557Gura and Ollie, I still think she has potential with Ame based on clubhouse 51 but they won’t fucking collab for some reason.
>>4685270But just ignore the stream then? I hate the slippery slope mentality. If a holo doesn't want to collab with anitubers it's not like mori can force them to do that.
>>4685160It's one person, ogey is fine, guac is just stupid.
>>4684396So you're not a t3, or even a member, right? Because making this post would make you a hypocrite considering you're here, and you would be a t3.
>>4683741i didnt want to bring him up, but I checked the comments and look at the actual good takehe was a little too harsh before but he was basically right, and he's right again. she took the criticism and used it to improve, and the stream went really well. if she doesnt do this for future collabs, we can timeloop, but this is a fresh foot forward for our Mori and I'm very proud of her
>>4685472Oh?
>>4685258you mean this
>>4685160>Deadbeats>pluralit's one guy trying to force a meme
>>4685011>but she did overreact and was a bit hurt with saying she should've taken a longer break.Her overreaction is not anyone else's fault because nobody is responsible for the problems in Mori's brain but Mori. She can't ask for criticism, say not all criticism is hate, and then go on some depression arc on how it would've been better if she just never came back :{ because she got what she asked for. If she's the steel-minded adult /morig/ loves to portray her as then she should be treated as such, not like an autistic child you need to tape pillows to because you're afraid they might slam their head against the wall until they die.
>>4684303fostering weird parasocial relationships with domineering psychos is the absolute worst thing you can ever do as a content creator and it will only ever end poorly
I'm not sorry but I can't support Mori's bullshit anymore
>>4685360based chipbeat>>4685530holy fucking savagekinda bizarre seeing local takes copied over to youtube word for word, but it is what it isit's an 8 month too, damn
>>4685615Chipbeat desu, not that anon
>>4685547I agreed with the criticism but I was just more surprised in that reaction. Kinda like how her reaction to the shadowverse criticism she got which was to now schedule it almost weekly when no one asked for a training arc
>>4684806I mostly meant Gigguk and Mori. I obviously don't expect chat to suddenly become sentient. That's a plus in my book that he didn't repeat a shitty overused meme and a pleasant surprise.
>>4685530He's probably the same as me. I membered kiara from day 1 and can't be bothered to unsub despite never watching her streams.
>>4684700Good. The guac shit is stupid. I didn't even realize what you fags were doing and thought you were antis who were timelooping it by bringing it up. It's the same shit as wanting to put links in the OP.
>>4685169>Gachikois are expendableIt seems you do not appreciate just how once in a millennium Hololive's rise actually is and how it could literally be gone in a month. Any indie vtuber would literally commit murder for say Stormtag, LC Lepen, and Clero to drop what they drop on Mori on the regular. Look at the difference between Coco, Rushia, and Flare who treat their gachis fairly well and thus rake in lots of money very regularly and the holos who don't lean on them as much even if they have big sub counts like Fubuki or Gura. Great example is Kiara and Ina as they have very similar sub counts and demographics, Kiara dotes on her KFP like a madwoman and they respond in kind to the point I think 90% of the KFP big hitters will be there for her every day until her graduation. Compared to say Ina who is a little more distant (still friendly to them but not GFE) as such her SC numbers aren't nearly as big. Gachis will put up with alot of shit but most have their limits and they are very valuable both monetarily and in terms of parasocial emotional support they can give. Acting out against them is something that should be avoided as much as possible, you can't please everybody but it is more helpful to keep because when Mori or whoever is still streaming in 10 years the gachis are way more likely to still be there for them.
>>4685530I wonder what it takes for someone like this to unmember if they don't trust them to improve
>>4685547Except the criticisms aren't actual criticisms and more of insane ramblings like this one>>4685530
>>4685530Literal brain damage.
>>4685494He's always been based. Especially ever since I saw him in Koopa streams.
>>4685396>I hate the slippery slope mentality.Why? Because it's a provable phenomenon? I've watched literal months go by as people claimed the TT podcast was just a corporate thing, would have no effect on any stream going forward, blah, blah, blah. And yet here we are and, better yet, Mori's expressing interest in going on the podcast again. If A leads to B leads to C and you watch it all happen in real-time, it's no longer a fallacy, it's an observable car crash.
>>4685675he probably barely knows the meme and also there wasn't any reason to bring it up so yeah y'all who hate the dad stuff were saved from that
please tell me if Im a schizoIts not that Mori doesnt care about hololive, but that she doesnt care about her hololive fans as much as her trash taste fansas in people that subbed and membered pre-trash taste or regardless of TT, vs people that only found her through TT she sounds so happy to talk about her appearance, and every time someone says they found her through TT she gets excited and talks about it for a minute or two, but when someone says they like hololive and they like her too, her response is not really thereif i take my meds i would think shes just happy that her appearance had a positive effect, but if i dont it feels like these secondary fans are worth more to her
>>4673908I fucking hate this whore like you wouldn't believe.
Why are the dramafags still going wild?
>>4685750>It seems you do not appreciate just how once in a millennium Hololive's rise actually is and how it could literally be gone in a month.No EN-onlies do because they see all the success EN has, success built on the back on the JPs that were struggling to make VTubing work to the point that they had to take up second jobs to support themselves. Mori literally doesn't even know what Hololive was like until about Gen 4 at BEST and neither do many of her fans.
>>4685830If serious, meds
>>4685795dont out yourself too easily, I can count on my hands how many troopbeats show up
>>4685860t. deadbeat
>>4685810Guac
>>4685911>dramafagsYou answered your own question.
>>4685830I think it's imposter syndrome manifesting in a weird way. She feels that her art is only now gaining traction because she slapped on an anime avatar and a Hololive label. Initially she would express this by saying she doesn't feel she deserves the recognition, but she got over that particular feeling. What she didn't get over is the feeling that Hololive is the reason she's famous. So she's rebelling against it, even if only subconciously.
>>4685750oh?
>>4685830meds
>>4685975>She feels that her art is only now gaining traction because she slapped on an anime avatar and a Hololive label.On some level, she isn't wrong. Give her a platform the size of Tsunderia or VShojo and see how far her content goes. She'd probably end up like Hime, flitting through gimmicks to try and make one stick.
>>4685975>So she's rebelling against itHow? Literally anything she does have to go through management first.
>>4685830I mean, she can't publicly act excited about people admitting they found her through 4chan, can she?塩がないわねえ。
>>4685830she appreciates all fans but she owes a bit of the success early on due to TT which is why she advertises for em hard. Though it was a bit excessive for my taste this stream (youtube video on stream, multiple shout outs during stream, and the pinned video in the chat) like it looked like they sponsored her or something
>>4686088Who the fuck is talking about finding her through 4chan? Are you an idiot?
>>4686088fucking retard.i meant showing up to her debut
>>4685830Jealousbeat...These are her expat friends, my dude. They can easily be closer to her than most of her coworkers.The lesson I had to re-learn today is that we do not know Mori nearly as well as we like to think.
>>4686055>spoilerYou can't be serious. Hime has zero talent in anything, while Mori can do music, art or just play games in an actually entertaining way.
I wonder if the comment sections will be her members grading her streams now because there's a good amount of comments just listing improvements she made for the stream
>>4686055Then why aren't the other holos doing as well as her? Why does kiara only get sub 3k views. Why has no other holo broke so many records related to music. Why don't other holos have their songs break 1M in just 2 days. There are lots of holos that prove ths point. Roboco, kiara, choco, mel, luna, towa to some extent, aki, sora, are all doing worse than vshojo
>>4686224And how much of that has done anything for her self-esteem and self-confidence?
>>4686261The EN tag + the gimmick of being a "rapper 2D waifu" as the twitterfags would say.
>>4686085Clearly her low energy doesn't have to go through managment.
>>4686249Is that better or worse than it just being a sea of Dad shit and Takamori shipping?
>>4686126>>4686156>but when someone says they like hololive and they like her too, her response is not really thereWell that's because it isn't surprising in the slightest, it's how people were supposed to find out about her. TT funneling people to her, now that she didn't expect. Hence the reaction. Makes sense, no?
>>4686274She was always pushing for her dreams and what she wanted to do and not giving up on them. She'd be still doing the same, the only difference would be that it's on a slightly smaller platform.
>>4686249It'll continue on until she graduates. In the end it turns out that deadbeats would be the reason for her to graduate. Too bad but I guess I'll still have her songs. I'll keep doing my jp reps so I can fully understand Rene which would be my next oshi. Shame, mori is the main reason I watch hololive
>>4686261Most of them are also active on their roommates to the detriment of their Holo content, or in the case of Sora, she used to never stream because she was busy doing IRL Holo stuff such as concert prep. Mori had more subs then a good portion of them had after 2 years on debut, so she does owe quite a bit of success to them grinding out streams for years when they weren't making any money to give her the massive audience she started to snowball with.
>>4686435Completely avoiding the question, a good tactic.
I understand that the gachis are essential and important, but does anyone else think that we shouldn't let the power go to their heads?We can't let the T3s become effective groomers
>>4686506I bet you were one of those people shouting down "concerns" about Connor grooming Ollie. Now that it's convenient you wanna misuse the word too.
>>4686274Once you get past a certain point of brokenness, your self-esteem doesn't even depend on external factors no matter how successful you get because you literally can't accept and internalize praise.
We are literally back in October.
>>4686327>EN tagExplain kiara, explain no other EN songs getting as popular as her songs>rapper 2d waifuBeing a rapper is a debuff retard, the weeb fanbase hates rap in general, except for black anime fans and people doing cyphers. They like cutesy idol and jpop shit. No otakus actually like rap, just read her comment section
>>4686470You're still a retard if you think Hime would ever be in the same league as Mori.
>>4686218>>4685830just... just start listening to what she's SAYING, holy fucking shitshe always was positive about all her fans, no matter how she said it and was always positive about TT people despite people making up rrats about some kind of bad bloodshe was always perfectly open about all of this, why don't you act like you were fooled or misguided about... anything really
>>4686566>the weeb fanbase hates rap in generaI guess 1 million skeletons really DID hit that subscribe for satire...
>>4686506Gachis that think their money is anything more than a donation are neither essential nor important.
>>4686551Randy's that one dude who made friends with marc kek. He's a malaysian chink, underrage too
>>4686551>vehemently disagreeDo retards really? The whole shit is pathetic.
>>4686551This post's existence will later be cited as people posting their own comments here for some reason because /morig/ has brain worms.
>>4686551
>>4684557Gura definitely.
>>4686598They "liked" it after listening to her. Look at how many >hurrr I never really liked rap in the first place but I like your songscomments there are on her videos
>>4685943>tfw use different names on every platformYou'll never find me!
>>4686249if I see a visible improvement, I try to leave a positive comment to reinforce itshe responds to feedback, she says she reads the comments and recent and less recent examples shows that she actually follows through with that, so it's worth engaging with her (even if sometimes misunderstandings can happen)
>>4686261Kiara has some problems that hinder herself (playing debuff games, her personality can rub people the wrong way while rubbing others the "right way", and more early youtube stumbles than Mori or Ame). Choco and Mel got kneecapped when Youtube cracked down on "inappropriate" ASMR. Towa got yabbed at the worst possible time in her most important growth months so her JP side fanbase is very anemic compared to her EN side. Aki just didn't have memes stick or an over the top personality compared the rest of her gen who I should remind you is Fubuki, Haachama, and Matsuri who have the strongest character personalities outside of Gen 3.
>>4686801Based opsecbeat
>>4686739If they hate rap in general then they wouldn't listen to it at all. But they do because it's presented as "anime" and something "new" in the form of a VTuber rapper. You're making two separate arguments, by the way. First you're arguing that they hate it to the point of not giving it a chance, then they don't because they listened to her.
>/hlgg/ proud of containment breaking.I didn't know they really had bad blood over Mori.
>>4686551>criticize your collab partners This is really a different level of entitlement
>>4685530Unironic mental illness on display here.
>>4686376I mean I feel like it would be pretty stressful getting graded after every stream and having people blow ya up for it
>>4686884Never enter the entertainment business, you'll be eaten alive.
>>4685756>if they don't trust them to improvedeep inside, they do
>>4686857The t2 containment breach in November really broke some anons because now they think they can containment breach to "fix" problems they see.
>>4686739There are common raps just different genre and style in the music industry than you think they are newfag. For example eminem's and 50 cent's style compared to modern rappers. But i'd just think this is just you giving the>why is mori's song have many views?!? when my oshi is betterargument, we get those a lot anyways
>>4686857They are a major numberfag anon
>>4686857>>4686930Misusing terms doesn't make you right. When one of them mentions /vt/ or 4chan you can spam about breaching containment all you want.
Actual t3 here. She deserves better. She should just move on with the next part of her life. Clearly she's not appreciated despite all the work she's put in. Can you really blame her for treating her streams as a job? She should just invest half of her money and wait until the end of the year, she'll be set for life. I'm a deadbeat from day one and I wish she'd graduate. You ungrateful retards don't deserve her
>>4687006Mori, you can't call yourself a T3 of your own channel.
>>4686566Rap is a novelty in this context not a debuff. In a sea of idol songs and pop songs she sounds different that makes people remember her. Its like saying Coco being an American who could speak english played no part in why she became popular. Did she work hard for it? Absolutely, but having something that stands out can cause a chain reaction of drawing interest.
>>4686551I kinda agree with her advertising the dude and the podcast way more on stream than any other collab partner from what I've seen. It just leaves a weird impression
Let's make #GraduateMori trending. I actually side with the antis on this one. We both have the same goal. I want her to graduate so she can become happier in her life with the people who actually care about her
>>4686566definitely not a debuff. A niche interest for sure but it's not a debuff
Reminder that>Kiara recently said last stream that Mori went dark on the Discord and didn't reply to anyone but management when she took her break>Literally had to confirm the Takamori collab after the Shadowverse stream since Mori didn't get back to her
>>4686566been a lifelong weeb and friends with lifelong weebs and every single one of them thinks idol music is dogshit and jpop is as bad as regular pop, which they all hatemoris music crushes everything else in hololive in numbers because its not tied to a genre that the vast majority of young western fans hate. the fact its rap isnt what makes it explode like that, its the fact that its Not Jpop
>>4686801me too! i missed a couple twitch streams but im re-membering to her thru twitch soonnot off topic because she WILL collab with Mori one day
>>4686803i think thoughtful comments/criticism is fine. there's like an actual bulleted list in one of these comments though which is weird
>>4687197Based, let's make this work >>4687182Expose her more. Bully her out of hololive
>>4687197Based Mori, taking a proper break from work and social media.
>>4687197can you give a timestap on this?
>>4687267>here's like an actual bulleted list in one of these comments though which is weirdWhat's wrong with formatting your post so it's actually readable? Would you prefer a wall of text? Are you one of those people who has a panic attack and doesn't use a line break because he'll be accused of reddit spacing?
>>4687182Kill yourself
>>4687197No really she loves her genmates, they are friends not just coworkers.
>>4687197At least post proof, retardchama
>>4687006>I'm a deadbeat from day one and I wish she'd graduate. You ungrateful retards don't deserve herOnly you deserve her, the truest of fans. Fuck you, you sanctimonious faggot. Your brain is getting poisoned if you think you’re the only one that wants well for her. And if you think this is indeed nothing but a hate circlejerk, what are you even doing here in the first place?
WOOHOO! TIME FOR THE GREAT FILTER. More Mori to myself when this is over!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>4687197>didn't reply to anyone but management when she took her breakThat's how a proper break should be.
I hope someone makes a streamable of her saying "Oh no, the drama" from this stream
>>4687197>>4687424Mori's talked about doing this with her actual pre-holo friends. She's introverted as hell.
>>4687498yes. FINALLY, A PURGE.
Alright deadbeats and antis reading this, I think I finally figured out how to do this >>4687182First, let's gather all the timestamp from kiara's streams where she exposed mori into a listThen randomly post one of them each hour under that hashtag. We can also hijack her official tags and the ones made by her fans like mythkids and the recent holomjones. Feel free to also say why you hate herThis is the final push, she's been getting flak stream after stream. It only takes just a little more to push her over the edge. Make her so depressed that she'd rather quit. Maybe one of the holos would actually join in to shit on her tooLet's make this bitch cry into graduation
>>4687498>>4687588Eventually you'll just be left with yourselves + every other person who thinks her personality has two switches: Takamori or Dad. I can't imagine the type of fan who'd be happy that the only people left enjoying her are the ones who boil down her entire being into two traits, one of which she's expressed exasperation with.
>>4687197Reminder that>Shitbird is shitting on everybody at every opportunity even if half of it isn't true.
>>4687320Nah I space out my comments sometimes too but it felt weird reading it because it reminds me of school essay grading. It was a positive comment though which is nice
>>4687588I'm excited for the deadbeat civil war. Mori Love will win hands down, the only thing that could possibly happen is that the antis and SEAniggers leave.
>>4687602Purgeschizo, take your meds you retard
>>4687602ogey
>>4687197Look it's really not her fault that she's just too busy having fun with her actual RL friends from the TT circle that she doesn't have any time left over giving a shit for mere """genmates"""!
>>4687576Well not difficult to guess who she was talking to during the break. Its understandable she would rather talk to her friends rather than her coworkers on a break. Just don't bullshit us Mori. You became my oshi because you tried to keep bullshitting to the absolute minimum required by the job
I love Mori and I'm happy she's improving. I dont like e-celebs but i'm fine with the collabs if it's an uncommon occurrence future streams will show her improvement and I look forward to themMori love!
Chances of this VOD's comment section getting locked in the future?
>>4687674I don't think you ever watch her stream anon...
>>4687674Those two types of fags are the least loyal ones.
>>4687786>I dont like e-celebsVtubers are ecelebs.
>>4687747Jesus, you must be such a fucking drone. Imagine showing up to work every day on a week you took off, especially one for your birthday.
>>4687747>>4687498>>4686551Based, join the cause brother>>4687602
>>4687800I thought the goal was to filter everyone else out until it's just you and her? You, and her, and the ten thousand people calling her Dad.
Ignore the schizo and Just report it. It was a nice attempt though
>>4687799High probably
>>4687872the really funny thing is that it's justifying breaching containment and /hlgg/ is not batting an eye over it. Shows how threatened they are over Mori, actually.
>>4687799>She locked a comment section for having implications of doxxing>This guy actually doxxbeatingAre these guys even fans of Mori?
>>4687850cmon you know what i meant
>>4687850Not every popular person is an eceleb, just the ones that exemplify certain traits or fit the category of “I don’t like them”
Reminder that this is happening precisely because some /jp/ tourists are salty that Mori still hasn't lost steam yet.Continue to be vigilant to the cause.
The thing that bothers me the most is that literally every single stream she's had since coming back has been shit in different ways each time. What the fuck happened on her break?
>>4687853>showing up to workExactly. Her genmates are nothing more than a job to her.
When did this Graduation rrat start?Apperently Mori hates hololive so much she'll graduate once her contract expires.
Honestly I think it's just really unlucky that this was the first stream after Gura disaster collab. If the next collab after it had been a normal stream or even another holo collab it would have been the perfect chance to show she took the criticisms to heart, but unfortunately it was this one instead of that. Just bad timing if you ask me.
>>4688154It's a schizo who literally can't accept that Mori is still gaining momentum, even after a long break. That's why it's very desperate for drama.It's already taking it to the extreme and resorting to containment breaching, because it's scared.
I know vt is never going to pick it up, but discord antis, if you're here you know what to do. Start the movement, people will join in. Let's get the jp unicorns to jump in tooAlright deadbeats and antis reading this, I think I finally figured out how to do this >>4687182First, let's gather all the timestamp from kiara's streams where she exposed mori into a listThen randomly post one of them each hour under that hashtag. We can also hijack her official tags and the ones made by her fans like mythkids and the recent holomjones. Feel free to also say why you hate herThis is the final push, she's been getting flak stream after stream. It only takes just a little more to push her over the edge. Make her so depressed that she'd rather quit. Maybe one of the holos would actually join in to shit on her tooLet's make this bitch cry into graduation
>>4688154it started with suisei sharing her idol dreams in 2019
>>4688152there was literally nothing wrong about this stream except of her inviting a person 4chan doesn't like
>>4688160That's the main reason I'm holding fast right now.If this is genuinely just "She took to the improvement" and her next collab is good, then great. If not, Deadbeats may as well change their name to Wifebeats.
>>4688160You can't and shouldn't want to please retards
>>4687984>the category of “I don’t like them”kek
>>4687957No they’re fickle dramafags
>>4688253>4chan doesn't likeyou mean newfags who only know him over TT, right?
>>4688253>"I want to collab with indies outside of Hololive. Pull up the little guys that aren't making it, y'know?">First collab after these words is a scuffed Hololive collab that she was directly responsible for the scuff on.>Second collab is with somebody who is significantly more popular than her.I don't even care that she collab'd with Gigguk, just don't fucking mislead people with some pretense.
>>4687984Is that you, Connor? Still fuming because people don't like you for your personality?
>>4688152She spent it hanging out with the TT faggots and ignoring her genmates.
>>4688253It's kind of funny/pathetic that the sole-reason of 4chan not liking him is because he's male
>>4688152Explain what was wrong with this stream without relying on buzzwords and falling back on "guest is bad because he's bad". If he said or did anything unacceptable - name it. Since the stream was shit this should be easy, right?
>>4688152The only stream that wasn't up to par was the Gura collab. The return stream was good and this one fine as well.
>>4687182>>4687602>>4687864already done brothershttps://twitter.com/JCMNC/status/1401579745612111876
>>4688152The only stream since her break that's had issues is the Gura collabs since she didn't test how netplay would work for the two of them. Everything else is nitpicking in retrospect and just not liking Gigguk
>>4688610>Already reported for hate
>>4688639>The only stream since her break that's had issues is the Gura collabs since she didn't test how netplay would work for the two of them.Scheduling a meeting so close to her stream that she had to cut the latter short is also an issue and it's pretty annoying how quickly it got swept under the rug because Mori fucked up something else so soon after.
Meanwhile...https://twitter.com/moricalliope/status/1401579327691497473?s=20
>>4688700Yeah it was fine in this case, it was a nearly 2 hour stream anyways.
>>4688710https://files.catbox.moe/ndyo64.mp4
>>4688710So there's no hair but there IS a tattoo down there?
Anyone here think that the reason the collab was a success was also very due to garnt/gigguk being much more experienced and professional in how he dealt with calli? not in the formal sense, but the sense of dealing with others part. He kind of shows a glaring issue with him vs the other collabs she did where the other person was also an inexperienced streamer or introvert. I hope that made any sense
>>4688445No, Connor is a prime example of an eceleb, his public personality is disingenuous and he’s trendhopper to boot. That said, dude seems nice enough in private to convince me to ignore him as long as he doesn’t get a 1 on 1 collab with her.
>>4688312so 80% of them are newfags...
>>4688610stop being a containment breaking faggot
>>4688867That and they were already acquainted with one another.Honestly, if he coached her after the collab too I’d be thankful
>>4688710BASED
>>4688786The thing is that it's a habitual issue. She's always ending streams talking about how she's got a meeting to go to, she needs to record something, she has JP lessons in a few minutes, etc. Unless someone else is scheduling everything for her I don't understand how she still does this. Even setting aside its effect on streams, it's unnecessarily stressful to have to rush from one thing to another.
Are mori and giguk actual firends?
>>4688997Most likely second-degree through Joey, since he's into underground j-rap.
>>4688997Anon did you have a stroke
>>4688933I'm sure part of her problem is wanting to keep her streaming hours as NA friendly as she can. She already streams early in the morning and late at night her time and it works out about the same for us but reversed. The result is she has to schedule all her stuff in the middle of the day and sometimes her stream time will cut into time she needs to get to and from I guess.
You could really see the desperation in some of the schizos here. They know that Mori is still getting more subs and members, and they're afraid of it.
Join our cause brothershttps://mobile.twitter.com/JCMNC/status/1401579745612111876I know vt is never going to pick it up, but discord antis, if you're here you know what to do. Start the movement, people will join in. Let's get the jp unicorns to jump in too Alright deadbeats and antis reading this, I think I finally figured out how to do this >>4687182First, let's gather all the timestamp from kiara's streams where she exposed mori into a listThen randomly post one of them each hour under that hashtag. We can also hijack her official tags and the ones made by her fans like mythkids and the recent holomjones. Feel free to also say why you hate herThis is the final push, she's been getting flak stream after stream. It only takes just a little more to push her over the edge. Make her so depressed that she'd rather quit. Maybe one of the holos would actually join in to shit on her tooLet's make this bitch cry into graduationGood luck brothers
>>4688710>crotch tattooMORIPPE?!!!
>>4688610Kill yourself, faggot
>>4689161Subs and numbers don't mean nothing when she's depressed af to the point of quitting herself. She's ab autist, it's really easy to push her over the edge
>>4689161>NUMBERS NUMBERS NUMBERSGet out of here chumbud
There are actually 5 or more teammates in my 15 minutes of scrolling through the comments lmao. Do we only get along with Chumbuds?
>>4688152This Shadowverse stream was a huge success. No issues, she learned how to play and they were competing, was happily bouncing around, and there were 15,000 active viewers.
>>4689177If months of bug abuse for Coco didn't do it what makes you think she'll even notice something like this?
>>4689214>>4689216>WHINE WHINE WHINEI could do that too, faggot.
>>4689303I appreciate your corncern chumbud but today's not a good day
Every seething anti in this thread is a buttmad cumshart that thinks Mori owes Gura a good collab after that bitch couldn't even bother phoning in to wish her happy birthday.
>>4689342For you, anti. You didn't get the "Yab". Gigguk turned out to be actually nice, and you're still seething.
>>4688710Fucking based. Damn that artist did pretty well for a hard angle. Oh my god womb/pubic tattoos are so hot.>>4688813Every fucking time that makes me lose my shit.
>>4689367Mori already repaid that by not returning her calls during the break and getting drunk with Connor. The collab was just unprofessional.
>>4689161while I agree some people are being schizos literally no one is mentioning numbers as that's not what people seem to be upset about
>>4688610Good job brother, let's keep the ball rolling. Remember that aloe's graduation also started with one tweet
>>4689398Tf you talking about? That went to 0-100 real quick lmao
>>4689464Getting a consistent stream of Subscribers/Members mean life towards the channel. It's also a simple indication that the channel is still getting growth. Mori is getting to a milestone (1.5M) and it's not a secret that antis are getting desperate over it.
I liked the collab
>>4689595Based, actually doing drawing reps instead of Whining and contributing to Drama with the whinefaggots.
>>4689563And her cover has so much hype surrounding it, it's already in 1.8 million in just 6 days
>>4689595Based peanutsbeat