/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>46840101
This thread is still under construction and the OP is subject to change in the future should it become a regular one

https://twitter.com/GezuDayo/status/1644391568227303463
Gezu coming back fast and strong.

Add her to the OP
https://www.youtube.com/@UtadaZoey

>the nameless one
Surely the optimal title is /sage/ (Spica Airi Gezu Elia)

Airi's schedule
https://twitter.com/AiriViridis/status/16443659913447833621

>>46840626
I actually wanted to make it /sega/ just for the lulz

>>46840626
this

>>46840465
so, what about her?
Is she reinstated as one of 'those who left'

It's gonna take some time to get used to reading Airi and not thinking of phase-Airi

>>46840626
/sagez/ (Spica Airi Gezu Elia Zoey)

/FPKTG/
Former Production Kawaii Talents General

>>46840101
>Elia Stellaria
holy shit that name is awful, it's even worse than her previous name
>>46840465
>>46840846
leave

So how do the girls avoid what happened to Oceane/Zoey who lost like 90% of her total viewership when she went indie?

>>46840465
>>46840778
no, fuck off
>>>/vt/zoey

>>46840852
I like it. Can add whoever the fuck Neena and Aruru is now and Beryl and Zoey as well.

Anyone watched Spica before her stint with Kawaii?
Was she different from her dragon self?

>>46840876
Time will tell, I think they have a chance if they go on as a group.

>>46840876
remains to be seen how many box holders they can retain. Oceane termination was pained as pretty ugly so I assume many lost interest.

>>46840876
gezu and spica already had good views before joining kawaii, and they're all sticking together so they'll help the other girls

>>46840959
Her Twitch clip that's the only thing on her channel now is literally the exact same except she has a lower quality model with angel wings.

>>46840370
/pkg/ seem to be whining about that, but what else is she meant to do? Just sit jobless for a week, for no reason?
I just wonder how many people who only knew Sava, would find her again.

>>46840876
leaving as a group is not the same as being dishonorably discharged for doxxing and bulling your coworkers

>>46840876
Directly streaming after graduation is a nice way to transfer audience.

>>46841099
Most small corpos and indies are shilling their new accounts. That's how I found out, I don't go to /pkg/ that often anymore because it's been a shithole for a while

>>46841099
I'm in this camp and I did, if someone asks me I'll tell them.

>>46841132
Yes, that's what Zoey did... and well, she kept her paypigs and most ardent supporters but nobody else.

>>46841099
I just got curious and found out about her PL, it wasn't that hard at all.

God /pkg/ sure started shitting on everyone in gen 3 fast

>>46841459
That's the reason this thread exists, surely there are people who just want to discuss the girls in peace without having to deal with that crap.

>>46841459
its doxxshells trying to exonerate their doxxer and catalogfags that smelled blood

>>46841459
it's another oceane raid

>>46840370
Not in Norway kek

>be snakes that constantly threaten mass resignation unless their corpo bends over backwards to their demands
>get fired
What the fuck were they thinking?

Also, please take a minute to vote
https://take.quiz-maker.com/poll4771990x334c424e-148

Time for notLetti to explore the deep and dirty end of AI generation.
Get those Character.AI and ChatGPT jailbreak streams scheduled bro

>>46841127
>doxxing and bulling your coworkers
Does anyone actually believe this now though? It's pretty clear the rest of her gen mates teamed up on her to get her fired because she wouldn't play along with their retarded renegotiations.

>>46841099
I found her PL easily a while back and was already subscribed and following. I'm sure others found her the same way.

>>46841563
>>46841594
>>46841611
There are like 2 postive comments in the entire thread
Honestly feel like at least cloudtomos don't exactly mind Gen 3's graduation even if many posters there are probably catalogfags

>>46841870
/sage/ and /sega/ sucks when you want to search the archive for posts talking about the thread but I also don't really like having kawaii in the name like we're still leeching off them

>>46841730
>She read all the "Boyfriend in Norway" rrats and used it to take a break before getting fired
kek. I like her even more now.

>>46841459
Let's be honest, /pkg/ never liked gen 3 to begin with. Gen 3 actually threatened their precious Nene's top spot, so they were just salivating waiting for something like this to jump on. Gen 3 was basically ostracized by gen 1 and gen 2, and the same happened with the fans. Gen 1 and gen 2 fans always had it out for us.

>>46842018
They work fine if you type the slashes goofus

>>46841730
CEST is Norway no?

>>46842018
Why are you searching for "sage" and "sega" then?
Literally use the damn slashes, you already typed 4 of them there.

i never liked nene

>>46841994
most kawaiifags just close the thread when shitpostinf starts, they all said their thoughts this morning

>>46840101
Do you pronounce it kiri spica or kiris pica?

>>46841730
Sure.

>>46842168
>>46842179
archive, not catalog you dumbos
https://archive.palanq.win/vt/search/text/%2Fsage%2F/type/posts/

>>46842018
Sage is fine, currently there is only thread which has it in the op.
Pkg was probably worse for searching, considering like all small corpo ops mention itö

>>46842291
used to work on nyafuu and warosu but the former doesn't exist and the latter seems to have "fixed" it

>>46841730
She already had streams planned as Sava

>>46842291
Wow, these archivers are even shittier than I realized.
Fucking foolzcancer. Shittiest codebase around.

>>46842107
blatant revisionism Peony and miryu were always liked

>>46842505
Miryu is seemingly still 'the good one'
/pkg/ makes it seem like she was forced at gunpoint to graduate by the evil whores sava and aletta

>>46842107
They love Miryu and are still crying about her leaving. You don't need to lie to make a point.

>>46841994
It certainly feels this way.
Also, just to clarify: this thread isn't for shitting on other Kawaii talents (obviously), be it the current ones or the former ones, it's just a place to discuss streams of these 4 girls and related topics

>>46842623
Seeing that pre-chat Miryu wanted to stream but wouldn't and Peony cancelled some makes it look that way

Oh my god I just realized something: Gezu DMC

>>46842811
I'm so looking forward to it, I missed her gaming streams in general

>>46842373
I fucking hate that shit so much.
I fucking hate threads linking each other.

>>46842811
she had the perms anyway

Miryu...

>>46842739
it doesnt matter if thats what was intended when it was made, dramaniggers will use it to shit on the other girls

What about my dakimakura...

Wait wasn't kirispica Irys? I'm confused.

This is the 1st time i got a retweet from Sava and it's from notSava on my stupid alt account...

>>46843177
Off to a good start at least
In general if anyone wanted to groom any of them now is the time

>>46843155
Yes that's right. Here is a picture of her old kirispica model.

>>46843021
True, but a man can dream, right?

Guess the name is decided then

>>46842291
you have no right to call anyone a dumbo, dumbo
>>/vt/?task=search2&search_subject=sage

>>46840101
the no one?

>>46841099
I wouldn't have known where she went without this thread, so thank you anons

>>46841099
>but what else is she meant to do?
considering it's /pkg/ i assume give all her money to nene and then kill herself

I wonder if MSPaint Peony Anon is here...

>>46843631
>searching for subject
wow how could I never think of that?
use this as well
https://archive.palanq.win/vt/search/subject/sage/

did that pick up all the posts mentioning /sage/ in this thread?
no.

>>46843875
I skimped over your post and thought you were talking about searching the general in the archives
you have all the right to call me a dumbo now

Wait who's who

>>46844193
All me.

>>46844193
Look at their colours, they're the same as before.

>>46844193
>orange badonkers
>singing australian
>green asmr dnd M&Ms enjoyer
>ayaya awawa daisuki dayo
anon you might be retarded

>>46840101
My favorite is the banana and seeing from poll results, bananas followed her

I wonder how the streams will go from now on. Obviously they can't talk about what happened, but everything is very obvious for everyone. How will they evade the elephant in the room?

>>46845208
>Obviously they can't talk about what happened
Can't they? They're not under the management's thumb any more. Unless it's some weird NDA, under threat of lawsuits.

>>46841771
Kawaii is a dogshit company with awful management anyways. Same reason Hana, etc. already left beforehand.

>>46845401
Pretty sure there is NDA as usual, although I'll be pleasantly surprised if Gezu suddenly starts spilling the beans tomorrow

Does anyone other than Gezu have streams planned?

Guess I have to make a new alt since I covered everything in orange cat. I hate making new twitter accounts, this site is fucking terrible.

>>46845605
just keep using the same one, who gives a shit

The usual discord groomers already following these "new" vtubers, good luck anons

>>46845585
Airi

>>46845632
Use the same one. Trust me, they don't care, they understand the situation

>>46845688
It's okay, the kawaii groomers are giga autists anyways

>>46842272
>>46842481
>doesn't stream while contractually obligated to
>will stream everyday now
DYRB western women?

>>46845504
Guess the question is just how much the NDA covers.
Clauses like 'you may never talk about any of your activities for this company after quitting' are almost unenforcable and thus not part of any halfway decent NDA.

>>46840101
>tzeentch, slaanesh, nurgle, khorne

>>46845504
Constellation- I mean Celestia- I mean Stellaria will for sure cry about it on stream

Elia Stellaria is the most fake and manipulative Vtuber I have ever seen

>>46846321
The act is over though

>>46841900
I literally saw the fucking doxx threads spammed on /vt/ you stupid cunt, you're not fooling anyone about your tranny discord's antics.

Man, hearing her voice again makes me happy, even if this day in general was a total disaster
https://twitter.com/GezuDayo/status/1644419424961658881

>>46846359
it makes her money and gives her subs, why would she stop it now that she needs subs the most and gets a bigger cut from them?

>>46846374
Those were probably made by sava or the whorse

>>46840876
>>46841026
Oceane got fucked because people knew she was trying to dunk on everyone else and that turned people off, but the nail in the coffin was that she doubled down on favoritism for the higher paypigs afterwards which made the gfe fags seethe as it shattered the illusion and just made it about paypiggatry.

>>46846478
I'll take your word for it, didn't follow the fallout

>>46842505
Because neither of them were ever a threat to nene
>Oceane
Actively competed for the top spot
>aletta
Would have passed nene
>sava
Got pretty good views on zatsudans and asmr

Miryu and Peony were not 'competing' with nene.

Anyone have the last Peony stream that got deleted? I have to know if she revealed anything when she was crying.

>>46846249
I guess even if they can't get you legally, talking shit about companies isn't a good look, professionally.

>>46840101
This is exactly what I was looking for. Thank you, my brother. Now I can follow my green haired fairy to wherever she goes.

Blacks are the problem with this country, I want them out, I want them to die

>>46846744
Relax Gezu, save it for the stream.

>>46846695
she didn't reveal anything but in hindsight graduation and not being able to talk about it is probably what made her sad enough to cry

>>46846687
God I hate how much Nene dominated the general

>>46846744
You're in the right place.

>>46846720
No prob, I hope other anons will have easier time finding them now. Looking forward to Wednesday!

>>46846997
Well now that all the competition is gone and all that's left is nene and the girls who only stream 2-3 times a week because it's just a hobby for them, nene will be like 90% of the posts.

never got around to checking out PK besides Nene who was meh, shill these girls to me

>>46846744
holy based

>>46847101
>the girls who only stream 2-3 times a week because it's just a hobby for them
Gezu... don't look...

>gezu instantly liking and replying to my tweets

Am I being groomed?

>>46845936
Kawaii groomers look like cute puppies compared to eien groomers, we have it easy

NGL, always thought Gezu should have been cunny anyways

>>46847337
Ironically besides the vacation shit, Sava streamed more than most of the gen 1/2 girls.

>>46847101
Nah like half the posts for the next couple months will be blaming Gen 3 for anything that goes wrong.
Shee stubs her toe?
Gen 3's fault.
Nami doesn't stream?
Gen 3's fault.
Nene is caught having cybersex with her top paypigs?
Gen 3's fault.

>>46847427
You know she's... still on that "vacation" right?

>>46845632
>>46845821
If it was just twitter I wouldn't worry so much, but my channel is covered too. Do I unlist them all and wipe the page or what ahhhhh help I'm a fuckin autist

>>46847446
who cares, I only ever went to /pkg/ for sava anyways, and half the posts there regarding her for a while were schizophrenic SEAs thinking she got bought as a sex slave by some norwegian millionaire and/or that she's pregnant lmfao.
honestly happy I don't need to go back to that shithole

>>46847366
Feels fantastic, right? Airi also answered to my tweet, and I swear, this was the first time ever a chuuba did something like this to me.

>>46846744
how did she get away with this? I want to learn this power

>>46847231
>gezu
>probably has pica since she eats weird things, an actual crazy person, does asmr, kind of funny
>banana woman
>'british' woman who complains no one thinks she's british and cries once every stream, appeals to cakefags especially those in STEM
>spica
>has an electric keyboard and likes to sing a lot, will tell you all about her little sister, funny in prechats, very amiable
>airi
>knew bananawoman before, they are good friends, autistic german asmr girl who likes horror games and has an extreme case of pokerface/never gets scared (bananawoman pisses herself at small time horror)

>>46847521
Nobody except maybe pkg fags is gonna care dude

>>46846687
Anon, when it comes to ASMR the only in-corpo competition Nene has is Lua, and there hasn't been any big conflicts between those two so what you are saying doesn't make sense.

>>46847506
Because she moved to europe.

I don't trust Elia

>>46847652
Spica sounds fun. thanks

>>46847679
Oceane was regularly beating nene in ccv on her asmr streams.

>>46847521
Suit yourself, I don't think it's that big of a deal to be honest.
I also think I know who you are, hi![spoiler/]

>>46847521
Just leave it all, I promise nobody will give a shit

>>46847521
doxxshell still watch kawaii girls, they don't care

>>46847231
>Miryu/Kirispica
good singer, aussie, self-aware dumbass
>alletta/elia
cutesey noises/awawa chiken burgur etc, british, comp sci major iirc
>Peony/Ari
German, very cutesy voice, more silly noises
>Sava/Gezu
autism creature, wild noise bordering on ear rape

>>46845688
Only banana woman is dumb enough to fall for pick mes

>>46847521
if you are worried about gezu she'd probably want you to keep it all as is
the girls obviously want to funnel their former audience into their new personas, they are not even trying to be subtle about it, and with any luck the viewers that subbed to you because of sava will find gezu through you

>>46841459
Yeah they are saying some extremely nasty stuff about all of them, glad to not have to deal with that anymore

>>46848084
But they were doing that for months even before the graduation.

Alright you've convinced me. I better not regret this...

>>46847521
Is this your first reincarnation? no one cares dude, just change profile pictures if you had your oshi in there

>>46841237
Ironically, after this blows over, pkg may actually improve with Oceane and Aletta gone.

>>46847521
>graduate
>all 4 chuubas new and old twitter accounts instantly found and posted here
orange cat made that post. they want you to know where they are now

>>46848337
cloudtomos are the worst part of that thread

>>46848432
As expected from someone who is friends with the others. Unity wasn't a meme after all.

>>46848438
This but gaokeks

>>46848337
As long as nene is around the threads will be shit

>>46848432
>orange cat made that post
that's a stretch but she didn't make it hard
I found them all right before that anon made that post, gezu retweeted Stellaria who was following just 3 accounts who also followed her
not exactly hard to figure out who is who either

>>46848438
Yeah but now there won’t be an army of seafags or whorsefags to start shit with the cloudtomos

>>46848084
RRAT
Peony rape posting went into overdrive at the same time this all went down. Nami is the rape and gore poster.

>>46848669
you don't say rrat when posting known facts, anon

So what do you think Airi's model will look like?

>>46848601
Like those retards need an excuse
Whenever nene doesn't stream they fill their empty lives by shitting on the rest of kawaii

>>46848725
it'll probably look good since she has 70k to spend on it

>>46848879
Are you sure you're not confusing her with Elia

>>46848725
>WAHAHAHA! It's me hyperdimensionaldemonqueen Airi streaming to you straight from the netherworld!
>bow before me!

>>46848955
no, I'll beat the shit out of Elia and give her money to Airi

>>46848879
>tax 20% for first 50k and 40% the rest
>then koshita takes his half
more like 25k

>>46848725
i'd assume a png

>>46848725
>leave kawaii
>change whether or not you are a fairy
>keep hair color the same
>add twintails
So following the rest of the pattern
>gain some modest tits
>outfit becomes more suggestive but still safe until the toggles come off
>eye color moves slightly (to either orange or green)

>>46848998
Would be epic if true, ngl

>>46848725
Airi rape

>>46849212
She should be flat but with a Latina dumpy

will she do the peony voice?

>>46849363
She did it to sound clearer, so I assume so. She didn't do it for the character.

>>46849305
>get a shot at making your model exactly how you want it
>become thicker than gezu
Would be a pretty good deal

Glad to see her tweeting a lot again, I can only imagine what was going on with all of them throughout all these days

>>46849986
Sex with euros, in her case.

>gen 3 mass graduates
>the only bad things to come out of it most of the girls are going to be pngtubing for a while and Sava didn't upload the doujin kiss on the way out

>>46850129
Also the added benefit of no longer sharing a general with cloudtomos

>>46850129
>Sava didn't upload the doujin kiss
I like to believe it was management censoring her all along and she's going to upload is as gezu now but I know I'm wrong

>>46850129
It's strange, right? At first I was in despair, panicking a lot, but now I'm calm, it's like everything went back to normal again

>>46849986
just shows she could stream and tweet this whole time
i'll stay away from her check out miryu and peony

>>46847231
Gezu basically shares all the same opinions anons have /here/ (gatekeeping, loli, etc.), she's very based and openly and proudly autistic. She loves gundam, neptunia, nostalgia critic, retro games, and trains.
Miryu is very cute and an incredible singer.
Didn't really watch the other 2 much

>>46850274
she was in the amidst of getting fired/quitting, it's understandable if you don't approach everything with the notion that she is simply evil

>>46848725
hopefully cunny

>>46850414
Man, that would be a dream come true, I always thought she needed a loli model, or at least a petite one

>>46840876
Not asking for $1k for discordsex as soon as they debut is a good start

>comfy time
Fuck you.

>>46850352
>loves neptunia
>didn't even play the games and watched them on youtube instead
nah she's the stereotypical zoomer who loves roblox

>>46848060
Do your Gezu reps anon

>>46851051
These girls will be doing voice chat discord with people who donate even less than that anon.

>>46848060
gezu spends most of her time talking on discord voice chats
she also got groomed by a discordfag when she was underage

>>46851223
>source: trust me, bro

>>46851223
I don't care if they do voice chat for everyone though.

>>46850129
>and Sava didn't upload the doujin kiss on the way out
>Sava orchestrated a mass graduation just so she didnt have to fulfill her donothon rewards
I believe it

The moment I see a discord link I'm unsubbing. I want to watch streams not grown men compete to see who can get the most egirl attention

>>46851097
As someone who played through all the original Nep games (NOT Rebirths) I kind of wished i'd just watched the cutscenes on Youtube too

>>46851578
I am playing the first game on a ps3 emulator right now and I'm enjoying it

>>46851578
I love grindy jRPGs, but yeah, they're not to everyone's taste. Playing Idea Factory games, especially without DLCs that give youOP equipment right from the start is a very tedious process.

>my small corpo's thread falling apart due to discord groomers shitting up the thread
>might as well check out the former kawaii girls
>discord groomers already setting up shop here
Fucking hell

>>46851532
>I want to watch streams not grown men compete to see who can get the most egirl attention
But anon, that's what streams are.

>>46851881
>gezu, one of the biggest discordfags that ever existed
>aletta who only became successful because she was pandering to the discord groomers
are you really surprised

>>46851532
aletta literaly owes her paypigs one on one time for the donothon she will have her top paypigs become discordmods and it aint you

>>46851532
You'd want to stick to Kawaii, Holo, and other corpos that do not allow talents to interact on discord with fans because everyone else does it.

>>46850768
Both she and Gezu would much better suit cunny.
At least Gezu has one in the pipeline according to her twitter

>>46851223
yeah, me

>>46851881
It was inevitable, but as long as they're being civilised, I don't really mind.

>>46851532
Then just watch streams and don't participate in the Discord activity if there is one, it's not like you have to do it

>>46851532
anon.. id like you to try your hardest to name a single indie chuuba who doesn't have a discord.

>>46851532
Gezu said she's rebranding and switched to youtube so I hope she'll stay away from the discord.
I'm unsubbing and leaving immediately if she has one

>>46852057
>cunny Gezu that also took some elements from Sava
My peepee is diamonds

>>46851532
same, but I trust sava wont do that

>>46852144
>pretending discord doesn't have an impact on the stream
Watch an indie stream for 10 minutes

Which of these members are from Kawaii Production gen 3?

>discordfags are already shitting up the thread
I hate every single one of you and I hope you die in the most painful way possible
kys faggots, leave this site and don't come back

>>46852308
none of them

>>46852308
Yes.

>>46851881
Aletta was pushing to be able to join discord before in kawaii. What the fuck are you expecting?

>>46852326
I was told Production Kawaii gen 3 joined whatever this...company(?) is?

>>46851223
It will probably be free. That is how indie groomercords work

aletta was already playing favorites with her paypigs, it's going to get worse if she opens a discord.

>>46851532
knowing gezu and aletta, there's a very high chance they left because they wanted an official discord

>>46840876
by not having shitty model.
oceane was one of a kind, whatever zoey has now is not even comparable.

>>46852457
gets whats deserved

>>46851223
Sava has precedent

>>46852515
Speaking of which, Gezu is a rigger, but didn't she also make some Live2D models?

>>46852623
She rigged Coqui's new model

>>46852515
Well, I guess Gezu is screwed then.

>>46852503
More likely the disagreement was 600 buckaroos in out of pocket ad money Sava can't get back because management refuses to run ads rather than the girls wanting to talk to discord simps

>>46852144
>just don't join the discord
I tried that before and I'm never falling for that again
discord always ruins the stream and if you don't join the discord you might as well be a second class viewer. If I see a discord server I'm leaving without a second thought

>>46852409
you have been fooled, bamboozled if you will

Wait.. is Gezu continuing Morrowind and Deus Ex from where Sava left off or is she starting over..?
No fucking way she's going to do all that again

>>46852797
You don't know Gezu, she likes talking in voice chats more than streaming

>Discord is the fucking devil, REEEEEE
It's a chat client. Grow the fuck up.

>>46842623
How many nude did ya get from Gezu goy?
Now aletta is free to drool over nijimales cock on stream ;)

>>46853090
kill yourself

>>46852881
Just like Zoey did with Neir Automata, she'll just continue where Sava left off.

>>46853090
kys discord groomer

>>46853090
Ok groomer.

>>46842623
/pkg/ is a schizophrenic SEA den.
I'm praying they stayed behind in /pkg/ and will fuck off after getting bored of threadshitting here for a while.

>wake up to the news
>confusion
>catch up on all the threads
>pkg filled with hostility
>just want to cope with the sudden news in peace
I'm also just tired of the fucking "us vs them" mentality that's getting pushed by members and fans. Some people don't want to be involved in the petty highschool-tier bullshit. I'll still watch gen 1 & 2 and wherever gen 3 goes depending on their content, but this sucks.

>>46853090
>best argument is willful ignorance that discord is being discussed as a program rather than the culture surrounding it
kys

>>46852881
I heard deus ex doesn't have cloud support and she doesn't have her pc so she'll have to start over. though that schedule is obviously her saying
>haha look guys, nothing has changed. I'm still the same, I'll even eat soap lets gaoo

>>46853250
All this whole situation is teaching me is that Kawaii really is a black company

>>46853250
>members and fans
its neither, its entirely catalognigs and dramanigs

>>46851881
Never forget
https://streamable.com/wcyxf8

>>46853313
you didn't know this already? how many times do gen 1 and 2 girls need to come out and attack a fired talent before you realize the entire company is fucking scum? nami in particular is one of the most disgusting whores in the v-tubing sphere. us and the girls are better off without them.

>>46853313
This situation though me most woman can’t handle work and contracts. Good riddance

>>46853419
>didn't answer the question

>>46853099
Schizo posting huh? I think you want that thread
>>46851811

>>46853311
yeahh true.
she can do even more outrageous stuff than eating soap now too

>>46842268
She's more commonly called Spica by many of her friends, so it became kirispica

>>46853293
>Culture
I repeat, it's a fucking chat client. If you're using it to join servers full of weirdos, that's your fault.

>>46853555
kill yourself

>>46853419
slugma was so fucking hot

>>46853350
>it's neither
>Nami's tweet that feels backhanded
>Nene's tweet that implies that there's a "bad guy" and management isn't it, instead of sticking to the "disagreement over directions of the production" narrative
I really wish it were just catalognigs, anon.

>>46853541
That’s just reality cuckfriend
>>46853423
Unless you donate in the thousands they don’t care about your autistic ass rumao

(You) ARE archiving (You)r oshis content right Anon?

>We at production kawaii believe in unity like a family
>Gen 3 shows actual unity
>Gets canned
Yeah black company me thinks

>>46852881
She'll definitely have to start Desu Ex from the start unless she backed up the save files somewhere else. Morrowind has cloud saves, so it's possible she'll go on with it.

>>46853250
It really sucks, but it is what it is.

Damn, what the next OP-pic should be...

>>46853423
>nami
it's Nene. Check her statements on other graduations, she always shits on them and promotes herself at the same time, it's disgusting woman behavior

>>46853663
I would like to sell you this amazing bag of air, there is no air like this one a promise.
What, you seem retarded enough to buy that too.

>>46853663
>Gets canned
They chose to leave though after PK didn't meet their demands. I'm upset about the current situation to and think PK is shit, but we shouldn't push rrats. They left of their own volition to go to greener pastures, and we should support their decision.

>>46853555
>If you're using it to join servers full of weirdos, that's your fault.
What do you think vtuber discords are full of?

>>46853521

>>46853778
This. Honestly, I'm just happy they didn't disappear completely, so we can still enjoy their company, that's all that matters to me at least.

>>46840949
it's forbidden to share their names?

>>46840949
no

>>46841099
Yes, she should never promote herself again and fade into obscurity because if she does any more than that she's a lying greedy treacherous whore

>>46853787
Depends on the server. Generalizing them all as the same is being childish and wilfully simple

>>46853555
go back to your discord servers then faggot, you're not welcome here

>>46840687
I mean, you wouldn't be wrong...
sega in Italian = wank

>>46854068
this so much, it's the same for reddit too! there are some really good subreddits, I don't know why 4channelers hate discord, reddit and twitter

>>46853778
>Believing the company
>When they uploaded a 9 minute script reading just to say
>Gen 3 cancelled stream to have a meeting. Early in the morning wahhh
>We had a disagreement over the direction of the company. No specifics tho ;)
>Gen 3 wanted to graduate
>We talked with them one on one to ask for the reasons why but didn't find the reasons to be valid so they aren't valid. No we still won't tell you what they are
Considering how forthcoming of information they've been in the past compared to now it's pretty clear who is in the wrong

>>46853666
>She'll definitely have to start Desu Ex from the start unless she backed up the save files somewhere else
no..

>>46840852
/TAFKAF/
The Artists Formerly Known As Enchantasia

>>46841994
They are both mine and it was my first (and last) time visiting /pkg/
Honestly I'm more sad about Spica's cat than for whatever happened in that shitty company and their shittier general.

>>46842170
CEST is most of Europe, 40 countries including Norway

and "Troll Station" in Antarctica apparently
https://www.timeanddate.com/time/zones/cest

>>46843155
you are confusing the two Renai Circulation singers kek

>>46841099
If you followed her before /pkg/ this wouldn't be surprising since she lives off her stream and commissions. If you were freelance before a contract once that contract ends you want to get back to work as fast as possible unless you have insane staying power doing nothing or made so much money you can say fuck you to everyone.

>>46843310
I'm too stupid to be capable of grooming or courting anybody.
But Spica is my ideal woman in every respect.

What absolutely kills me, is why did it have to be so sudden?
If it's just an issue of creative differences, revenue split, etc. -- why not announce a graduation stream and at least part ways somewhat amicably?
The way this whole thing went down makes everybody involved look bad.

It just feels like this whole thing has been unnecessarily dramatic..

>something so bad horse threw away a 100k+ subs channel
All the rrats I've seen today are weak. There isn't a single management sin in any of them capable of justifying throwing away a stable guaranteed vtuber career. Behind the scenes must be fucked beyond imagination

>>46853697
Nene is opportunistic sure but Nami isn't any better, maybe worse even considering how much she seethes every time and how umprofessional she is about it.
Nene just uses it as an opportunity to promote herself, cause you know she's a greedy whore, but Nami instead seee an opportunity to shiit on people with no repurcussions.

>>46855639
if the reason for their graduation was how big of a cut pk was taking then they obviously wouldn't want to do a big sendoff where people are going to send in lots of donations.

>>46855672
Managers wanted sexual favors
Gen 1 and 2 are sluts and accepted while gen 3 refused

>>46855672
i never watched aletta, but didn't she quit school to do v-tubing? rational decisions doesn't seem like something she is capable of. i could see her dumping her channel just to show solidarity with the rest of her gen, even if it isn't the best career move.

>>46855672
>Behind the scenes must be fucked beyond imagination
Look how their "senpais" in the company reacted. Look how entitled they feel and probably lock step with management about shutting down the requests of Gen 3 as a whole.
Gen 3 only had each other, same as always.

>>46851881
haha the funniest ones are when I see all the old cyberlive groomers I see you dumb niggers and I'm laughing

>>46855672
Charzu and Isla openly shit on the management all the time, if it was really bad they'd say something about it

>>46855860
Prussian Bot... don't look...

>>46853311
It's easy to cheat your way back to where she was if she so desires, DX has an item spawn console that works just like Skyrim/Fallout and you can manually set the map.

>>46855817
How is quitting school to focus on your work not a rational decision? You can always finish school later.

>>46855789
I can only imagine the meltdown if it turns out that Kawaii has basically been another WACTOR this entire time

>>46855912
This and Nene has the company on her back, if anyone would be in a position to leave it's her, that's why her immovability is such an endorsement of management.

>>46847231
Spica is the sweetest girl ever in the history of humanity and is an amazing singer.
She is also an introvert and a sperg, to a degree I didn't think was possible.
Did I mention she's unbelievably cute?

I have never watched the others, but will check out Gezu because the other anons here paint her as an interesting character.

>>46845208
>everything is very obvious for everyone
Don't assume Miryu fans have any idea what happened, because we don't.

>>46855789
>New male manager just brought
I wouldn't rule out a Mel situation

>>46856011
Depends on what exactly she wqs studying no?
If it's some meme shit like philosophy or woman's studies sure, because that's worthless any way.
A degree with good earning potential though is something you should get as early as possible, assuming debt isn't a big issue.

>>46855860
Prussian Bot fucked Vera and then told everyone about it, causing Aetheria to implode immediately. I don’t know why anyone would associate with him again

>>46856070
Management is in Japan and the graduated talents were in Europe, US, and Australia. How did Wactor do it?

>>46856209
And he only told everyone about it because she didn't end up fucking his friend

>>46855672
Oceacucks and rratsisters are getting uppity since nobody has solid evidence to definitively refute their speculation

>>46856209
sunsetzero did the same thing and hes still a mod for Emma so I dont really believe in women's ability to learn from the past :]

>>46851532
I'll tell it to you right now. Leave. There is nothing here for you.

>>46856179
>A degree with good earning potential though is something you should get as early as possible
Why would you do that if the career you are currently pursuing doesn't require it?

>>46856137
"Obvious" in a sense "I know why you all came to my stream"

>>46856118
Nene would murder a baby for the management

>>46856341
Why is the pfp, name and date censored?

>>46856344
i know this idea is foreign to zoomers, but functioning adults call something like that a back-up plan. it's something you have in your back pocket incase the career you are pursuing falls through.

>>46856341
why did you waste your 10 seconds faking this

>>46853778
There is no way it was just that. Something big must have happened. Plus look at all the talents that have quit PK what is the one constant? The company itself. It's just like when all of Tsunderia just straight up and left.

>>46856341
is this the new NotAletta discord?

>>46840959
She's always do singing stream almost every single day as Spica

>>46856489
they wanted kawaii to be more like idol and eien

>>46856341
>Same banana
Please don't tell me she actually tried to use her and gen 3s sub counts to strong arm management into letting her make a discord

Please, not-Sava, stick to what you said earlier and don't pick favorites from your chat and consider everyone equal. Grooming individual people to your private discord will fuck up everything you build up until now.

>>46856574
>>Same banana
its literally one of the first results on google

>>46856489
before gen 3 only 3 people had left. 1 of them for thinking she'd be able to have a second vtuber identity while working there. the actual constant here is that gen 3 girls were all just shit hires. thats why all 5 of them are gone, but the rest of gen 1 and 2 remain.

>>46856358
Oh I see. Sorry

>>46856562
I mean its not a bad thing to an extent. Both Idol and Eien pull in bigger numbers than Kawaii. In the end this whole thing is a business, no? At some point you need to adapt to grow and make profit.

>>46856489
Are you saying the ones that stayed are as bad as the company?

I'm leaving the moment they mention discord
>>46856694
there's a reason why their fans watched kawaii instead of idol and eien

>>46856697
No im talking about management.

>>46842233
I wish I was as wise as you from the start. It took finding out about shit she said on member's only streams for me to drop her.

>>46856489
Management in Kawaii is basically hacked together and doesn't know how to run a company. We've known this since Hana's graduation and it has only gotten clearer with every subsequent exit. Koshita realised that having two unqualified people running a company is a bad idea, so he fixed it by hiring four more unqualified people. Every time they have to do damage control they seem to get worse at it, and it's abundantly clear they're trying to use the nip corpo strategy of "make everyone give the same sterilized face-saving response", unaware that western audiences interpret that as blatantly fucking fake even if those are the genuine beliefs held by the talents.

New thread incoming!

>>46856818
>>46856818
>>46856818

>>46856441
So why wouldn't she be able to go back to school if her plans fell through? It is smarter to focus on your (volatile) career while you can. There is no point in wasting time, energy, and money for a degree you don't plan to use for the foreseeable future. Considering that she was one of their top earners, she clearly made the right decision.

Why do people always side with the girls every time things like this happen?
The girls are always the ones who are right.
They are always the ones who were wronged.
And it is always the company that did horrible things to them.
Seeing this every time there is a termination or graduation is making me think them being girls gives them free pity points and will always be seen as victims no matter what.

>>46856850
Exactly. You nailed it.

>>46856977
>people
twitterfags aren't people

>>46850352
Doesn't Gezu being some le based secret /here/tuber contradict the fact she left the company over zoomer anti-work bullshit?

>>46856977
personally I'm 10x more annoyed Peony was let go than anything else. Some of the others I could understand as not fitting the image but killing the whole gen in one swoop just reeks of cutting off your nose to spite your face.

>>46856489
>Plus look at all the talents that have quit PK what is the one constant?
They are all women

>>46857136
>the fact she left the company over zoomer anti-work bullshit

They debuted with an idol unit name, the idol thing upsetting them is a weak rrat, try harder anons

>>46857198
>he doesn't know about the aruru leaks

>>46840370
>written like those posts on /v/

>>46847546
Not to brag, but I had Kiara like and reply to my tweets and my favorite PC girl even called me her best fan.
But yes, it's technically easier to have a conversation when you're one of 10 people to reply to her and not one of 1000

>>46857249
The rrat is that they weren't happy with kawaii NOT setting up a kickstarter for their idol models

>>46856597
This. I loved her for laying it out straight, "don't think you can buy my attention". I hope she continues with it.

>>46857328
Which is reasonable, considering management gave priority to applicants that were interested in the idol project. Sitting there for 8 months with not even a hint as to when you'll get to join has to look pretty bad no matter what side you're on

>>46856727
offtopic but idol doesn't let their talents interact in discord, only read it

>>46853313
It's a shame because I really believed in their philosophy as a company. If only they and the talents actually lived up to it...

>WATCHA SINGAN
>WATCHA PLAYAN
>WATCHA EATAN
>WATCHA DRAWAN

>>46856977
>Why do people always side with the girls every time things like this happen?
Which girls in this case anon? Gen1/2 or Gen 3?

>>46857328
They needed to have bigger numbers for that, it makes no sense try to milk the current subscribers after all the donothons

>>46856977
Slashing Sava and aletta makes sense. They would were divinating heavy from the kawaii image. Miryu and peony is a shame. But ayyy it was the girls that wanted to graduated, that's on them.

>>46853313
They're not a black company, they just keep hiring the wrong people so the girls just leave after realizing it's not for them. Not saying gen 3 was bad but other than Miryu they didn't really fit in
It's a japanese company, most western girls aren't able to adapt to their culture

>>46857676
>They would were divinating heavy from the kawaii image.
holy esl

>>46857328
they knew that before joining kawaii though, the management and the rest of the girls made it cleaer

>>46857469
Sasuga, Aviel is way fucking smarter than I thought. It needs to not be an everyday occurrence that fans can just go chitchat with the girls offstream whenever like they're just regular people.

For an idol to be held up on a pedestal she needs to be specifically not just another normal person walking around talking to whoever whenever. Celebrities are like that, you can't just go hang with Tom Cruise or Morgan Freeman on discord - and it'd be weird to us if you could - because he's in that "other" category, we don't see him like a normal person. If "idol" "stars" prove themselves to constantly just be the random girls over discord not feeling terribly different than some girl you talk to in an MMO or something then she's no longer special, no longer in that "other" category.

>>46857684
>It's a japanese company, most western girls aren't able to adapt to their culture
You mean where cliques form and not being in the clique means you get bullied? Sounds a lot like NijiEN. I guess you are right!

>>46857718
I will never type past mid night again kek

>>46857813
so true sister

>>46846374
There used to be constant niji holo and phase dox threads as well. Why dox here instead of twitter where it wouldn’t be banned or deleted

>>46857855
>So true sistering an anti-Niji comment,
Kek, you kawaii bootlickers are retarded.

>>46847784
So it was everyone against oceane to gen 1/2 against gen 3. Could it be possible gen 3 was jealous of Oceane and wanted her gone

>>46857813
>where cliques form and not being in the clique means you get bullied
this seems to be the main problem with Kawaii

>>46858074
Oceancuck, you are welcome nowhere.

>>46852797
Lua and Nene run ads couldn’t she do it herself ads on YouTube aren’t expensive

>>46858074
Doxxer also had the information for gen 1&2 her "doxxing and harassment" wasn't limited to gen 3

>>46857228
?

>>46857813
can you really call it a clique when everyone gets along other than the few retards who refuse talk to the others?
Even Miryu and Peony were close to gen 1 and 2

>>46853599
Gotta admit an entire branch choosing to graduate at the same time is unheard of. That wasted a full year of time and will definitely make it harder to find people. Them being annoyed makes sense especially with Gen 3 doing the whole unbothered it’s back to work immediately. It’s really sad i wanted more lua and peony collabs

>>46858341
If they had been close to gen 1 and 2, they wouldn't have felt the need to quit after the other two had whatever yab or disagreement that led to this.
Instead they clearly valued their friendship more than the rest of the company. Which is a good thing, but reflects very poorly on the production.

>>46857422
Hololive has everything set up and 3D is still 6 months out with idol outfits being 9-12 months. They also don’t know if their first concert will succeed makes sense to be conservative.

>>46858570
obviously they were closer to their genmates, but that doesnt mean they weren't friends with the rest of the girls. Miryu was gushing over everyone and Peony got along really well with Lua
Sava also talked to some of them but she didn't seem very close, most of her close friends are in other corpos and I wouldn't surprised if her decision was a result of her being influenced by Yuko. Aletta just seemed like she was doing her own thing and didn't bother with gen 1 and 2
I don't think anyone is at fault here, it's just a retarded situation and they probably acted on impulse

>>46857779
Idols are different from celebrities in that there’s supposed to be an illusion of you being able to reach. You are right overall though

>>46858799
Peony also joined all of Shee's DbD streams,
this really is just them all having a collective woman moment. I wouldn't be surprised of they end up regretting this decision

>>46858865
I'm sure at least Miryu will regret it, she doesn't seem too on-board with the decision. She probably just didn't want to be the only one left.

>>46858158
Just devil’s advocate i see everyone throwing stones that would contradict prior problems. I like watching peony’s asmr so closer to that then whatever oceane fans are called

>>46858303
I’m just playing devils advocate. Also why do you believe management now they can’t be telling the truth about a termination but lying about a graduation. Again just devil’s advocate to get you to hate everyone less

>>46859097
>Also why do you believe management now they can’t be telling the truth about a termination but lying about a graduation.
I don't know what other post you meant to link, but nothing I said implied I believed they were lying about either

>>46858949
That’s why it sucks being a pushover and a good person. Had they stayed less people would think it’s a management problem as they were doing much worse than Aletta making greed seem more likely. Them leaving muddies the water making management seem worse and the others look controlling. Either way Gen 1/2 got it the worse this graduation wasted a full year of time if you account for auditions and has left them with less fans and more hate. If you believe their message two of Gen 3 shit on all their efforts.

>>46859243
The doxxing statement was on her termination statement from management or am I thinking of someone else