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itt: confirmed /here/‘s

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>> No.46745449

>>46745420
squeeb

>> No.46745467

>>46745420
Kiara

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>>46745420
Here, fixed for you. The only one who might not be /here/ is Kobo.

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>> No.46746467

>>46745420
Most, if not all of them, visit on the regular.

>> No.46746483
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The biggest /MANS/istet

>> No.46746522

>>46746483
>this is the guy calling you a retard

>> No.46746535

>>46745609
Proofs?

>> No.46746579

>>46745420
Mommy has seen my squeebs for breastmilk? uuuuuuu...

>> No.46746893

>>46746483
Based Aniki

>> No.46746972

>>46746483
Literally the only true post in this gay ass thread.

ONLY axel is "confirmed". I seriously doubt any of the girls visits here. Except MAYBE mori, but once again, not confirmed.

>> No.46747003

These “vee tubers”, are they in the thread with us right now?

>> No.46747098

>>46746972
Didn't Kiara accidentally show her browser with /vt/ on it?

>> No.46747219

>>46745609
Not Kaela

>> No.46747253

>>46745420
all of nijiEN, but they're all ignorant and/or bitter butthurt newfags (besides pomu) who don't actually know 4chan as a whole and don't fucking get this place at all and think it's only /pol/tards or /b/tards.

probably this "they're here but just /vt/ tourists" criteria applies to 95% of /here/ girls really, including if not especially ones like pippa and lumi who think "4chan = /pol/ incels" and snap their backs bending over trying to pander to it. maybe it's just because it's easy to do because it's a huge election tourist population that doesn't actually have any real inherent culture or identity that you would have had to have been here for like 10-15 years to really get and exude as a "one of us" type deal.

>> No.46747294

>>46745420
It's one thing that it happened in the past, it's another to be certain that they might still check which is the question we should be asking
Which one do we think has stopped checking and which is still checking?

>> No.46747306

>>46747253
>been here for like 10-15 years

Haha yeah who would do that

>> No.46747401 [DELETED] 

>>46745420
im here lol

>> No.46747419

>>46745609
Gura got too curious and read the shit you people post. That is why she stopped streaming.

>> No.46747420

>>46747401
WHO THE FOOK IS THAT GUY
who the fook is that

>> No.46747424

>>46745420
all of nijiEN, but they're all ignorant and/or bitter butthurt newfags (besides pomu) who don't actually know 4chan as a whole and don't fucking get this place at all and think it's only /pol/tards or /b/tards.

probably this "they're here but just /vt/ tourists" criteria applies to 95% of /here/ girls really, including if not especially ones like pippa and lumi who think "4chan = /pol/ incels" and snap their backs bending over trying to pander to the dumbed down caricature they have of the site in their heads. maybe it's just because it's easy for them to do that, because there's a huge election tourist population that doesn't actually have any real inherent culture or identity that's super easy for them to tap into.

one would have had to have been here for like 10-15 years to really get and exude as a "one of us" type deal to pass as a legit old /a/ user and not come under scrutiny as some fucking horrible poser newfag abomination - there's a lot of shit you won't ever ever pick up from secondhand descriptions or knowyourmeme. so they don't do that. but, it's real easy for them to go "haha niggers and jews, fuck women too amirite" and suddenly the /pol/cels are eating out of their hands, because /pol/ is mostly itself newfags who don't have a deeper culture actually-born-here, this site to them is just a front to spout the same shit they can and do literally anywhere else they'd be allowed to get away with.

>> No.46747442

>>46746972
She was on /a/ and sang the Psycho Pass song with a bunch of guys. Since you're here forever, it's safe to assume she visits 4Chan, and by extension /vt/
>>46747098
That was an edit. The bigger yab was her having Playboard on her homepage

>> No.46747443

>>46747419
>Caring about what South Americans, Burgers and SEA crusaders think

I’m glad there’s no fucking Chinese here.

>> No.46747446

>>46747294
You are here forever.

>> No.46747475

>>46747253
>muh election tourists
Its been 7 years bro. Stop the cope already
Also
>incels
Always has been kek

>> No.46747524

>>46745609
all the seaniggers are here frfr no cap

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>>46746972
>ONLY axel is "confirmed".
lol

>> No.46747574

>>46747475
election tourists are eternal newfags. as I already clarified, they don't have a 4chan culture actually, as in something actually-born-here. they just picked up the same shit their dads and granddads rant about when drunk (or are in fact those old dudes directly, because they can't rant about the jews on facebook within view of their coworkers, wives etc). if you told them moot's "I want to be the little girl" was a super common joke phrase here they'd just start ranting about trannies immediately and not understand literally nobody gave a shit about that back then and it wasn't the idea/intent at all. and so on.

>> No.46747591

>>46747253
>huge election tourist population
unfortunately these people are the majority now
they are not tourist anymore
and it's forever summer my friend

>> No.46747619

>>46747442
>and sang the Psycho Pass song

Oh hey there she is.

>> No.46747701

>>46746535
There's no proof. A lot of stuff that could be proof, can be found on twitter that was stolen from here

>> No.46747724

>>46747619
Sorry to burst your bubble my guy but I'm not her lmao

>> No.46747744

>>46745420
You spelt whore wrong OP

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>>46747253
Lumi specifically called out people comparing her to Pippa and posting political shit in her chat, so fuck off with that bullshit.

>> No.46747762

>>46747574
I disagree. The whole extreme political shit came as a response to the rest of the internet. As you could see all these years, everything became more polarized.
>if you told them moot's "I want to be the little girl" was a super common joke phrase here they'd just start ranting about trannies immediately and not understand literally nobody gave a shit about that back then and it wasn't the idea/intent at all.
Yeah there are some outliers who unironically say "tranime" or hold similar opinions but they are a small minority.

>> No.46747771

>>46747724
>my guy
shes the only one that talks like this

>> No.46747794

>>46745420
having seen what this place does to smaller streamers i dont want fauna to be here, its bad for her

>> No.46747885

>>46747794
Unless she hears us and we get some foot ASMR.

>> No.46747901

>>46747771
I say 'my guy' too, man it's a common expression. A bit cringe but I like it

>> No.46747975

>>46745420
All chuubas are /here/
they cannot resist the ego search

>> No.46747998

>>46747901
>A bit cringe but I like it
森じゃ

>> No.46748014

>>46747975
Sort of like how you see someone else using an image you made here.

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>>46747794
I don't want her to see the kind of sapling I really am on here

>> No.46748070

>>46745609
IWySRySWyS is not /here/. I’m confident about this.

>> No.46748107

>>46745609
Anya is a Nip so she is probably /there/, not /here/.

>> No.46748111

>>46747794
really depends who she's listening to and/or if she is here to research what people actually-like about her, what's working etc or if she's here to argue and force people to like things they don't like about her.

that's kind of the real wheat from chaff distinction of herechuubas IMO, are they here to silently look at legit opinions/feedback or are they here to react to those opinions.

>> No.46748158

>>46746972
>Maybe Mori
lmao she drew actually verifable fanart in /a/. She left other footprints like /a/ sings and roommate songs. Honestly if you are here long enough you'd spot that she's an anon just from the way she speaks.
In comparison Pippa talks like an election tourist, and this isn't even an attack at Pippa, just carbon dating an anon's behavior.
And an even bigger comparison is Nyanners and she predates the two of them. The old cat talks like she's still in 2008 and use dated terminology like "shit bricks".

>> No.46748163

>>46747998
Sorry but やめてください。

>> No.46748191

>>46748158
>shit bricks
That's a word I haven't heard in a long fucking time Jesus

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>>46748158
Do...people not say shit bricks anymore? Am I old?

>> No.46748205

>>46748191
When you see it...

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>>46748163
ないです

>> No.46748423

>>46748158
>still in 2008 and use dated terminology like "shit bricks".
Go climb a wall of dicks

>> No.46748567

>>46748070
>he missed the time IRyS talked about soundposts
>>46748107
Anya is the weebiest weeb of them all, to the point that "You will never be Japanese" doesn't apply to her. I'm convinced that she's #1 "YWNBJ" shitposter on /jp/

>> No.46748589

>>46746972
>Maybe Mori
Holy mother of reps. She talked in a forbidden stream about preferring 4chan over twitter.

>> No.46748595

>>46745609
I remember Kobo used a /vt/ word on twitter when replying to some tempus boy, forgot which word

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https://youtu.be/6hv3lcMXqIE?t=6628

Fauna CONFIRMED as her own ritual poster

>> No.46748842

>>46748158
Nyan making Kramer Just for Laughs jokes is peak /here/.

>> No.46748848

>>46747574
Most /here/tubers are zoomer girls who are too young to have been around for earlier 4chan culture. I need more hagtubers who used /a/ and aren't Mori.

>> No.46748925

>>46748848
>Not Mori
Are you too scared to look at your own reflection?

>> No.46748928

Vesper since he wanted Anya to Bane post

>> No.46748964

>>46748848
Two words: 'Good' and 'Luck'

>> No.46749000

>>46748928
Nigga he's male, old and autistic. Of course he's here. Nigga's even /wvt/ /asp/ adjacent but nobody pays attention to indies so most catalogfags don't know it. Unicorns scared that he's fucking their oshi don't realize he's fucking a twink vampire chuuba.

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>>46748848
>I need more hagtubers who used /a/ and aren't Mori.

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Any one of us in this thread could be a famous vtuber and nobody would be none the wiser.

>> No.46749103

>>46749005
Other than kwapi the only verified oldhags would be Picky (has her fanart in /jp/ banners) Leaflit (Literally a League Dev) and uuuh, and that blonde maid Picky hangs out with.

>> No.46749169

>>46749076
When /a/ said we're all little girls here, they weren't kidding because those posters were underage b& kids who grew up into vtubers.

>> No.46749176

>>46748595
If anyone from HoloID used a 4chan slang, you can almost guarantee that it's because of Risu.

>> No.46749182

>>46749000
Well damn nigga nobody brought him up so I thought "might as well" didn't expect an indie to bitch at me about it

>> No.46749192

>>46749169
Pomu...

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>>46749076
Oh, it's certainly not me

>> No.46749285

>>46745420
>>46745443
>mumei, fauna and bae discussing all their gross fans while fingerblasting in a circle

>> No.46749295

>>46749285
proof?

>> No.46749339

>>46748070
There is literally a 200% chance she's here because of that spergout she had last year crying that people were saying she'd changed since debut and wasn't as good anymore, which was literally the work of a single shitposting nijinigger in the irys threads.

>> No.46749397

>>46749339
I wish irys isn't here because her thread is shit. Worst thing about it is she didn't cultivate those kinds of fans and doesn't deserve it.

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>>46749295
>He doesn't watch streams

>> No.46749498

>>46749339
>spergout she had last year crying that people were saying she'd changed since debut and wasn't as good anymore,
she did?

>> No.46749499

>>46749295
Fauna mentioned that Bae was afraid her fans would kidnap, rape and dismember her.

>> No.46749512

>>46749452
>watching 4 hour clips

>> No.46749546

>>46749339
>I was doing a contractor job in Burma working for the local government...

>> No.46749590

>>46745420
Everyone is here because only /vt/ will tell you the truth about the stream, Twitter and Reddit are faggs blinded by global homo

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>> No.46749634

Show me a vtuber and I'll show you a /here/

>> No.46749649

>>46749546
Then you know for a fact it's called Myanmar now not Burma.

>> No.46749675

>>46749631
>Moona
>He doesn't know

>> No.46749690

>>46749590
They have to preface shit to save face.
>Is it just me or
>Don’t get me I wrong I used to love it but...
>Is anyone else feeling like...

>> No.46749692

>>46749590
It's more like
>on reddit you will just get banned for anything less than 200% positivity and can even be banned if you are positive but not in the right way
>on twitter they try to get you banned for racism if you say "gura doesn't stream because she hates her fans" because they're all crazy 14 year old FTM trannies

>> No.46749697

>>46749675
chart was absolutely made by a newfag who thinks he's being epic sharing it on discord or saw it on bannedvtubermemes or something.

>> No.46749780

>>46749397
The OG Irystocrats are nice, the problem is ennafags are so fucking insanely butthurt about Irys' existence thinking Enna is beyonce and celine dion level and deserves everything singing-related more than everyone else. they shit up the thread nonstop.

>> No.46749840

>>46749339
reminder that IRyS cancelled her Valentine collab with Bae because /HiRyS/ sperged out against it

>> No.46749879

>>46749780
And how does that explain the thread shitting on Mori, Bae and Kronii? Or that they sperg out every time CHADcast gets another episode? Ennafags shitting the bed is not an excuse to shit on holos, especially the ones she hangs out often.

>> No.46749884

>>46749840
Mere coincidence, I assure you. There is no proof to substantiate this.

>> No.46749899

Do you think Fauna's seen the sapling x Risuner erp threads..

>> No.46749958

>>46749879
you should have seen the thread during this year Valentine. 300+ posts in 1 hours by just 30 IPs.

>> No.46749960

>>46749899
Do you think Fauna knows how cute she is.. oh god what if she finds out!?

>> No.46749963

>>46747794
Fauna's hard as fuck, unironically. There's not a whole lot that I could see bothering her, and I'd be more surprised if she wasn't a top tier shitposter
Mumei's about on par too, being neetier than most of 4chan at one point. I seriously doubt there's anything /here/ that would bother her, or Fauna

>> No.46750021

>>46749899
She gets off to them, guaranteed

>> No.46750034

>>46749884
Its ok Irys. We understand

>> No.46750054

>>46749840
>Dramafags

>> No.46750066

>>46749963
It’s sad to think how many normalfags might pretend they should be here. Makes me moom just thinking about it

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>>46750021
Nice, so do i

>> No.46750402

>>46749675
I blame the treerrat for bringing her /here/

>> No.46750488

>>46749899
She probably makes them.

>> No.46750655

>>46745609
Nah, anya play in JP chan instead of here

>> No.46750775

>>46749631
IRyS very definitely browsed /a/ and /cgl/

>> No.46750835

>>46749840
That thread is so bad.

>> No.46750848

>>46748158
>use dated terminology like "shit bricks".
no one uses this anymore kek
all slangs are now imported/exported to and from other sites

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>>46745420
The most /here/. I still can't believe she didn't deleted some sites.

>> No.46750931

Probably easier to tell who isn't lurking this place. I'd say Bae, Irys and Kiara might be innocent.
I'm not sure about Kronii, Ame and Ina. Kronii and Ame seem more like the kind of people who call themselves egdy and offensive, but their tolerance for offensive stuff ends at /r/4chan. And I don't know enough about Ina to categorize her.
The rest are definitely /here/. Gura's past life, Mori's general behavior, Fauna's deep meme knowledge and suspicious amounts of chill, and Mumei's owltism give off their powerlevel.

>> No.46750965

>>46749631
Technically speaking, Moona and Reine posts (moona cookie, reine dog'anon'), confirming that they're here is just a one-week thing. Probably introduced by the treerrat and forbidden to visit again by m-chan.

>> No.46751041

>>46750931
>Kiara
>the most vane of all EN
>not /here/
Well she's Austrian so probably prefers reddit.

>> No.46751065

>>46750886
The most damning part is having the archive as a frequent page.

>> No.46751101

>>46747419
IT'S ALL MY FAULT ;_;

>> No.46751139

>>46749649
I see you support the junta. Free Burma!

>> No.46751150

>>46751065
I mean there nothing wrong with Ego searching

>> No.46751179

>>46751065
This shit infuriates me. It only shows how fucking incompetent and lackluster Niji management is. Fucking imbeciles. All Nijis need a good amount of tardwrangling, it appears.

>> No.46751237

>>46749840
Imagine not getting a solo valentines stream....

>> No.46751284

>>46749339
It's scary what one dedicated thread shitter can accomplish in changing the entire boards perception of a thread

>> No.46751324

>>46751284
>BarrYrys

>> No.46751485

>>46747794
fauna's smart don't worry, she can parse what is proper criticism/feedback from actual fans and what is just bait/hate
and she's not stupid enough to be kneecapping/pigeon holing herself by only appealing to edgy retards here

>> No.46751667

>>46750886
>not just the board
>the archive as well
Lol. Lmao even

>> No.46751714

>>46676926

>> No.46751749

>>46751179
Pomu, by virtue of actually having worked a real job(s) opposed to some entry level retail like some of her colleagues, manages not to need it

>> No.46751814

>>46751714
>generals

>> No.46751856

>>46748158
>dated terminology like "shit bricks"
OK zoomer

>> No.46751916

>>46747419
>Gura stops by in /vt/
>Reads all the AI chat ERPing where anons rape her
>stops streaming

>> No.46751985

>>46751814
Most of the chuubas there are /here/
One of them was taking recommendations for soulsborne games last night

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Definitely /here/.
Subaru and Pekora might not be here, but they definitely checked out matome sites covering 4chan.

>> No.46752108

>>46752046
Twapper Tunguska...

>> No.46752163

>>46750931
>Kiara might be innocent
I dunno
https://youtu.be/amkHKENoUt0

>> No.46752482

>>46752163
>they know about the Gura memes

>> No.46752484

>>46751284
4chan has unironically always been like that. Why do people think toradora is 'the greatest love story ever told'? Because it was a shitpost by one faggot, then idiots began believing it was sincere and unironic and now people are nostalgic for an anime that was made fun of at the time in winter 2008 because of how retarded it was.

>> No.46752501

>>46749631
On HoloStars's side: Axel is definitely /here/ and is frequent; occasionally Altare drops around; Vesper reeks of /v/ and /tg/, he might be an oldfella; probably Shinri is either visited occasionally wanders around /x/ and Magni either dropped pre-debut and never returned or is feigning ignorance, Bettel is definitely someone that knows the reputation and Hakka and Flayon never heard about it or hide it really well.

>> No.46752556

>>46751985
Pippa is definitely /here/ and FlaVR is a shitposting branch that everyone can be part of.

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>>46745420
>thinking any woman could resist reading hecking juicy gossip about herself

>> No.46752613

>>46747794
What about the time she baited saplings to have her with cowkini? I have to say, she's really cute on a cowprint bikini.

>> No.46752651

>>46752577
Shiggydiggy

>> No.46752908

>>46752484
Take your words back.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xle3-SkFbb4

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>>46751856
A zoomer wouldn't even recognize those terminologies.
>>46751284
Because they didn't tell the guy to fuck off and made it seem "normal" for others to copy and believe. I've seen threads degrade over the years and it's always because of some combination of discord, namefags or simply allowing retards to fester instead of telling them off. If anything, splits like /infinity/ are a speedrun into turning into /katawa shojo/ in just a little over a year.

>> No.46753063

>Twitter addicted
Bae
Ina
Kronii
Ame
Irys
Gura
Fauna
>Twitter and 4channel addicted
Mumei
Mori
Kiara

>> No.46753114

>>46747794
I used to think like this, then I found out she was a lesbo and I unsub and stopped caring.

>> No.46753120

>>46752908
No retard because I was there and it was shit and we all agreed it was shit. It's always newfags who can't understand jokes and unironically thought that forced drama was meant to mean anything except making fun of an overly dramatic anime where they literally tried to hold her down and make her confess for no good reason except to create tension. It was and will always be bad.

>> No.46753229

>>46748848
Anon zoomers are leaving college and working, zoomer can be a 26 year old women. It's like you guys think zoomers are still in high school or something. Most of them are In college or graduating college.

>> No.46753254

>>46750965
>he doesn't know the RM account

>> No.46753319

>>46752501
>Vesper reeks of /v/ and /tg/, he might be an oldfella
No way, he would have known that pagers can transmit letters as well, its how you get a bunch of missions in GTA III and that is a game most /v/ oldfags should have at least tried playing.

>> No.46753415

>>46753319
That's why I said "might", because it could be that he is just a /tg/ nerd

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>>46753120
you're full of shit

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>>46753664
>off by one

>> No.46753821

>>46745420
Remember when Fauna did the council host bar stream and acted like an easy woman who wanted to be disrespected and have her heart "crushed into pieces" ? Fauna got very bothered when a chatter said "It was nice to see another side of you" in regards to her that stream, like so bothered she immediately launched into a big speech about how she was just pretending to be that kind of person and it wasn't who she really was, that convinced me she was /here/. It was seriously only a couple of retards in global who felt cucked by how she was acting on that stream, I think they made a catalog bait thread at the time and one of the posts was "was it nice to see another side of your mommy saplings?" she read the shitposts at the time and when she saw a comment in her youtube chat almost word for word the same as one of them she sperged out it was funny.

>> No.46753870

>>46745609
Anya definitwly hates all of you secondaries and EOPs. She's an unironic /jp/ slut

>> No.46753979

>>46753870
Why would a JP lurk /jp/ instead of 2ch or 5ch?

>> No.46754207

>>46752484
Reminds me of how suddenly everyone started hating on "moralfags" like Kenshiro just because of one fag spamming identical threads for days on end.

>> No.46754350

>>46752484
now I miss that Accelerator guy
that dude keeps on spamming how strong Accelerator is

>> No.46754449

2023 is ami’s year. Believe it!

>> No.46755079

>>46753870
Hot

>> No.46755166

>>46751284

“30 year old boomer” happened because of literally one guy spamming several boards and then it became ingrained in the wider internet lexicon

>> No.46756131

>>46753979
nazuna..

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>>46747098
he fell for the funni edit

>> No.46757375

>>46754350
To be fair, Accelerator IS one of the strongest characters in the series.

>> No.46757506

>>46747794
Hey, don't lup me in here. I just talk about how much I love and appreciate her content

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>>46753664
>off by one AND two
Get fucked toradorafag.

>> No.46758639

>>46745420
All the big corpo ones are either /here/ or their managers are /here/.
Small corpo ones are like 50% here
Indies either never visited or are terminally /here/ depending on how hard they numberfag

>> No.46758766

>>46745420
phase connect
/thread

>> No.46758915
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>>46758191
look all I care about is the blatant lies, the main complaint toradora threads had were that Ami didn't win since she was such a bro but otherwise loved the show. the previous post is slanderous revisionism, next thing they'll say is k-on didn't shit up /a/ with 10 threads for 5 years straight.

>> No.46759367

Someone post that rosemi PL nigger incident

>> No.46759663
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I was pleasantly surprised when she referred to herself as a “nephilim princess”. Which I how I have always referred to her as because of ojou-sama upbringing, thanks to DadRyS keeping her in a gilded cage. Protecting her from the western decay of the last decade.

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46759706

>>46758915
Just because Ami was the better girl and just because k-on DID, in fact, shit up /a/ worse than Naruto managed to do when gatekeeping was stopped does NOT make toradora and less shit.

>> No.46759730

>>46759367
the what now

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>>46759706
>any less shit
GODDAMNIT

>> No.46759920

>>46747253
>/pol/ incels
Literally me.

>> No.46759993

>only place on the internet where you can see people talking about you and other vtubers without filters
>noooo they can't possibly be /here/
All of them have visited this place a few times at least

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Mumei is too weird and edgy not to have been here as a teenager

>> No.46760232

>>46753063
>Fauna not 4chan
She just pointed out a fucking loss meme last stream, there's no way a Twitter normalfag would have even heard of it

>> No.46760261

>>46745420
Fauna started neck posting
now i'm not taking credit or anything but it was all me

>> No.46760288

>>46749285
cheese grubbing rodent fingers typed this

>> No.46760339

>>46760232
Loss was everywhere

>> No.46760518

>>46747253
>especially ones like pippa and lumi who think "4chan = /pol/ incels" and snap their backs bending over trying to pander to it.
Good to know you watch neither one of these girls. Kill yourself

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>> No.46760694

ITT: retards drowning deep in paranoia "think" that rich, spoiled girls in their late 20s are /here/.

Think about it for one second, faggots: WHY would they be /here/? Why, of all places of the internet, would they visit le basket weaving, bot infested forum? The forum that supposedly isn't on its glory days anymore (there was no such thing as le olde 4chanerrino, that's just niggers high on saudosism)? The website that is filled with brazillians, bots, ESL schizoids from all around the word and pure unfiltered unfunny shipost?

You would gain nothing by visiting 4chan. Nothing of value can be found on this website. No opinion, no matter how sincere/unhinged/useful can be found exclusively on 4chan - they can find those on Twitter too. The mere act of typing this forum web address is a tremendous waste of time and all of (You) faggots know this: just look at /vt/'s catalog, /tv/, /v/, /int/, /biz/ etc - the only boards that supposedly would have something unothordox, something that deviates from the general public's opinion on some subjects are the literal garbage can rotten juice - you know, that liquid that accumulates at the bottom of trash cans when the trash bag has wet food inside and has holes? Yep, that's what these boards are.

Everything else, as I said before, can be found somewhere else on the internet with better quality and less autismo.

They are not /here/ and they will never be.

>> No.46760801

>>46760694

A screengrab from several holos literally shows them here

One of the shots had a Discord channel named something like “/vt/ surveillance”

>> No.46760872

>>46755166
>“30 year old boomer” happened because of literally one guy spamming several boards and then it became ingrained in the wider internet lexicon
This also lead directly the wider internet using "boomer" as a general insult, which lead to Senzawa making the "Ok Boomer" song. It also lead to the creation of the term "zoomer", which is now unironically used as an actual term for GenZ.
This one anon literally single-handedly changed internet culture as a whole

>> No.46760887

>>46760694
or, you know, you can just go check the archive

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>>46760694
didn't read lol

>> No.46761003

>>46749631
I definitely believe risu is here, mumei has been here, gura has been here, mori has been here, kiara maybe not sure, ame no idea
Honestly bros. I kind of hope they dont come here anymore as much as I love them.
It's such a fucking shithole now with so many schizos and falseflaggers and troons that the dialogue quality is nonexistent, its just shitposting for funny memes now
If they know that and dont take ANYTHING said here to heart then it would be fine.

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>>46749192

>> No.46761081

>>46758915
>>46759706
Ami wasn't the "better girl" she was a fucking bitch who spouted cryptic bullshit all the time, then got mad when the retard mc didn't understand her.
Also Toradora is way too melodramatic to be enjoyable. Kaguya is unironically a better romcom.

>> No.46761154

>>46760232
>She just pointed out a fucking loss meme last stream, there's no way a Twitter normalfag would have even heard of it
Anon its been years. Loss memes are literally on both reddit/twitter.

>> No.46761200

>>46752501
Shinri was 100% one of the lore Anons we had and disappeared or went under.

>> No.46761306

>>46760694
Why do we come here?
Entertainment. It's really entertaining listening to schizos schizo out on weird tangents and then post funny memes
It's the same thing with tiktoks theres nothing of value whatsoever just nonsense as far as the eye can see but millions of videos are uploaded and watched every day

>> No.46761461

>>46748595
Idk why anyone assumes any holos come here just because of the use of certain slang
They all get those slang words from Twitter. Like when Kiara says “gosling”, obviously she got it from the influence of Twitter users

>> No.46761640

>>46000000

>> No.46761767

>>46751284
>>46755166
What you anons don’t understand is that it’s not just because it was spammed a lot. Tons of shit and unfunny stuff gets spammed everyday that never takes off at all in the wider internet
The meme actually has to resonate with people in order for it to explode and take off into the mainstream, as in it has some relatability and meaning to people’s lives somehow. All kinds of dumb bullshit gets spammed that never become internet phenomenons, because those things don’t speak to society and culture in the way that “redpilled” “based” “boomer” (etc) do

>> No.46761775

>>46760620
Seems to be legit. Moona, I kneel.
>>/vt/thread/S8866258#p8871404
https://twitter.com/moonahoshinova/status/1431850937891491845

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>>46760801
>he fell for the edited browser history screenshot
....
>>46760887
Ah, the good ol' "it's on the archive b-bro. W-what, you didn't find it? W-well then it's there okay! N-newfag!". The elusive proof that is never presented but everyone vehemently cries that it indeed exists.

Do it, nigger: post the fucking proof that will make me concede and eat my own words. You won't. The proof, the screencaps, whatever your ailing mind conjured to keep your made-up narrative intact isn't real.
None of the hologirls are here and they will never be.

>> No.46761885

>>46753229
/here/tubers weren't browsing 4chan when they were 7.

>> No.46761928

>>46761780
I mean... >>46761775

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>>46761081
In comparison to the other fucking bitch that was only good for correction, yes Ami was. Your complaint can be applied to most women anyway.

>> No.46762643

>>46760694
because vtubing is so much smaller and much younger compared to other mediums of entertainment.
when an anime/game fan hears about /v/ or /a/, they immediately know what to expect and dismiss them entirely. like you said, there's nothing they can find that isn't already accumulating 10k+ likes on Twitter or something.
but vtubing, being a bit of a hugbox on higher profile platforms, found a place in /vt/ for people to spill their guts about how they feel about the industry. so when you hear about a sizeable chunk of that community flooding /here/, people WILL get curious, take a look and it's all downhill from there.

>> No.46763029

Fauna was probably around middle school around when boxxy was a thing, and 4chan was just mainstream enough yet also not stigmatized enough that she definitely would have come here at some point and probably posted in earnest.
She was also emo so that increases the chances of her wanting to go on 4chan.

>> No.46763037

>>46749285
>what's Bad Apple?
>what's Square Enix?
>what's Boku no Pico?
There is a literally 0% chance Bae is /here/. Mori, Fauna, and Mumei, however, absolutely are, so you'd better be doing your best to look cute for them when they want us to fight to the death.

>> No.46763160

>>46751916
Brats talk about raping Bae all the time and she streams every day.

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Everyone's favorite orange dog

>> No.46763556

>>46761928
Right. I will give you this one, and only this one. Even though these tweets are most likely a coincidence since the subjects of the threads are too broad and could be correlated to any sort of tweet if you reach far enough. That, and even if I pointed out that this isn't even a proper evidence you retards would just spam "I-I-I-I a-a-a-a-accept your concession!1" until the heat death of the universe.

>>46762643
>>46761306
I'm here because I have nothing better to do. (You) are here for the same reason. These girls have unicorns to please, dicks to ride, songs/MVs to produce, meetings to attend and merch to plan. It's beyond retardation to think that, on their free time, most of them would would simply hear a whisper from the devil calling them forth to take a sneak peak at boards dot 4 channel dot org slash vt slash.
Don't forget that, when the fanbase wanted, they shat on these higher profile plataforms that most of you think as hugboxes - the whole Mori lean drama happened on Twitter and Reddit for fuck's sake. When /vt/ wants to be heard, /vt/ breaks containment and goes to those plataforms because they KNOW that these are the only places that most of the chuubas check.

>> No.46763559

>>46763029
I do wonder where she posted

>> No.46763947

>>46747442
>She was on /a/ and sang the Psycho Pass song with a bunch of guys
No fucking way
I've gotta ask her if she remembers Psycho Gargle then

>> No.46764263

>>46747442
>professional streamer keeps track of the metrics which reflect her performance as a streamer
>somehow a yab

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>>46745420
>Fauna's 'mom' act is completely a stage persona
>she's actually the one spamming gore / CP threads
It's always the ones who 'seem' sweet...

>> No.46764867

>>46764263
I think he meant by comparison. I was in the thread when that screenshot popped up and people shat on her for seemingly numberfagging while having the lowest subcount of her gen

>> No.46765192

>>46763526
Shiki is so dumb, I love her

>> No.46765297

>>46764533
>at a biker-bar
>chick tattooed with a crown of skulls by the piano tells you to get the fuck out of her way before beating you to within an inch of your life with a pool cue
brb learning Japanese.

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>>46748199
It's sad to say but we are old

>> No.46765563

>>46748848
>I need more hagtubers who used /a/ and aren't Mori
Other pink woman.

>> No.46765642

>>46763556
>They're already running psyops and damage control
>"N-No such thing as chuubas being here, anon!"
Chuubas OUUUUUTTTTT!

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>>46765297
good luck

>> No.46767009

>>46764533
>the real reason Fauna is a vegan is because everytime she sees meat she remembers all the gore she's seen in old /b/ and gets nauseous
would ogey

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>>46760694
>WHY would they be /here/?

1. Addiction to ego stroking from the unfiltered and extreme, zealot like fans

2. Addiction to rage/confusion from the unfiltered call outs/insults, from people that can post anonymously and without repercussion

3. Addiction to making posts themselves as both kind of people stated above

4. And most importantly, for teh lulz

>> No.46767801

>>46761780
Sure anon whatever helps you sleep atnight

>> No.46767912

>>46765297
Hot

>> No.46768330

>>46767801
Great argument anon you sure showed him

>> No.46768436

>>46745420
No, she isn't, and neither are the other girls. They might visit some other boards like Mori does but they aren't on /vt/.

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>>46760694
>rich, spoiled girls in their late 20s are /here/.
Of course they are. They have a whole board for personal ego stroking with funny schizos. That's about as far as an attention whore can make it, and they don't even have to worry about the shaming and other consequences flesh attention whores have to deal with. This is the most successful a woman ever got without having to deal with traditional gender roles. Even Cleopatra had to deal with it. Vtubers don't, not in any meaningful way. They're just playing games on stream and making harmless jokes.
They're loving it and one of the best ways to enjoy this success is looking over your adoring simps and pitiful antis on an anonymous board where they say whatever they want.

>> No.46769790

My wife Munro could have saved me. Instead she just shitposts and memes. Sasuga owl

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>>46745420
>Almost all vtubers are /here/
>I could have potentially called my oshi 'a nigger' in an argument without knowing

>> No.46770713

>>46760694
This place was actually a good place for sincere opinion before the schizos and tourists (in b4 lol that never happened, yeah but it's even worse now). I mean your alternatives are just echo chamber hugboxes, so it's not like there's better options. Taking those opinions at face value is just recipe for disaster. But yeah in 2023 tourists and schizos have dropped the quality a lot. Also lol thinking twitter opinions are any better, I'd argue they're even worse than subreddits since there's even less barrier to normalfags and tourists, plus it's the home base for, you know the type, to them chuubas are only seen as a tool to push whatever agenda they're on.

>> No.46771624

>>46770713
I think 90% of r/hololive activity is paid for by cover. those can't be real people.. right?

>> No.46772042

>>46763559
/b/, /x/, /d/

>> No.46772259

>>46745609
indonesians have their own /here/ and it's the public shitter, innit

>> No.46772346

how is this hard for some people to decipher? your oshi is literally a main contributor to their own thread

>> No.46773364

>>46771624
Well they say you're here forever for a reason. I couldn't be bothered with cringe communities.

>> No.46773809

>>46760694
Quaso

>> No.46773991

>>46752501
Flayon pre-debut shitposted about Melty of all things
He might not be /here/ but he's at least adjacent

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>>46773809
Holy shit I fucking concede and I kneel, I can't believe thatTakanashi fucking Kiara herself blessed me with a (You), I'll cherish this moment forever or at least until I inevitably kill myself

>> No.46774810

>>46769967
>your oshi could have called you 'a nigger' in an argument without you knowing
ain't that a dream come true?

>> No.46776017

Didn't Kiara address the Nasca rrat that literally only existed /here/?

>> No.46776310

>>46747794
Fauna comes here to bully saplings and cunnypost on /uoh/

>> No.46776750

>>46749339
Stream? I NEED to see this

>> No.46777271

>>46776017
>Kiara address the Nasca rrat
The fuck? When?

>> No.46778868

>>46774810
We could have called each other niggers!

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>>46747253
You're right a lot of the """"""""""""""""""""""""""/here/""""""""""""""""""""""""""tubers are the equivalent of election tourists
They either think 4chan is full of /pol/yp MKULTRA'D FSB'D incelerinos or LE HECKIN SO RANDUMB NIGGERNIGGERNIGGER XD /B/TARD website.

They are as /here/ as the average redditor, twitterfag, and discordtroon.

>> No.46780676

>>46749076
>What are you, president of your oshi's fan club??
>No... That would be YOUR MOTHER!

>> No.46781729

>>46763559
/a/, /b/, /mu/, and /x/

>> No.46781795

>>46745609
Based Risu being that autist who shows all her friends le ebin funny forum

>> No.46781847

>>46745609
I cannot believe for a second Bae goes on 4chan.

>> No.46782542

>>46749963
just saying nigger bothers 99% of white girls

>> No.46782745

>>46782542
What happens if I say doublenigger? Would even MariMari run for the hills?

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still think it's funny she fucked this up when she's normally so private lol

>> No.46783004

>>46782853
Happens when you least expect it. Still, nothing really damning.

>> No.46783375

>WebM

>> No.46783925

>>46749899
Of course she has, Fauna is actually the risuposter

>> No.46786742

>>46783925
>Fauna also made that squeeb pic. You know which one.
>Better yet, she asked Mori to do it
i want to believe

>> No.46786927

>>46760232
Grandpa, please...

>> No.46787182

>>46752939
>Because they didn't tell the guy to fuck off
Holy fucking newfag. You NEVER feed the trolls. Telling them to fuck off just shows that what they're doing is working, and emboldens them. /HiRyS/'s problem is that they are CONSTANTLY telling the schizo to fuck off, so he keeps coming back. Thing is, though, /HiRyS/ is honestly one of the better threads on the board when they aren't getting raided, it's just that every time she collabs with Mori or Bae the schizos flood the thread.

>> No.46787488

>>46749076
>I might have called my oshis Mori and Irys faggots multiple times over the last decade for liking Gundam SEED
A terrible though, I hope they doesn't mind that much

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>>46760694
Anon there are literal roaming hordes of federal agents, CIAniggers, FSB agents, vatniks, wumaos, kiwifags, bots, shills, corporate yesmen, unironic discord trannies, JIDF, and triggerhappy mods and janitors on 4chan.
The idea that a few internet addicted zoomer vtuber girls might browse 4chan regularly is entirely plausible and almost certainly true.

You drank the Koolaid.

>> No.46787940

>>46760694
Retard

>> No.46788130

>>46745420
Most of them are, if not all of them.

>> No.46788143

>>46787488
you did the right thing, any sane person would do the same

>> No.46788185

>>46787488
Doing the good Lord’s work. Some sins surpass all transgressions

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>>46787690
schizo theory: vtubers exist to deradicalize the most dedicated and driven internet racists by baiting them with seemingly impossible to acquire girlfriends and then hooking them with the real deal

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>>46765430
I knew it would happen eventually but it still hurts

>> No.46788782

Give me on possible reason that would suggest mumei would come here
.
You can (not)

>> No.46788805

>>46782745
who?

>> No.46788835

>>46788261
You seem butt blasted of a non issue.

>> No.46789070

>>46788261
Vtubers made me more racist because theyre all white and asian (white)

>> No.46789189

>>46788835
I don't understand what you're trying to communicate.
>>46789070
They don't care if you're more racist, they just need to ground you with reasons not to go full kaczynski

>> No.46789240

>>46749498
No, but are we just going to wait around until she does?

>> No.46789388

It's the vtubers that visit /r9k/ that you need to watch out for.

>> No.46789419

>>46787690
https://youtu.be/IBuOgNN7ELM

>> No.46789848

>>46746522
>Axel is calling me a retard in /mans/
Stop... I can only feel so lonely.

>> No.46789959

>>46754350
Flash vs Accelerator threads...

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>>46759367
>>46759730

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>>46789189
>implying I'm not close to going full TK because of my oshi
The planet won't save itself, anon.

>> No.46790258

>>46790095
That anon is a hero, and you know it.

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>>46788261
>schizoid
As soon as narratives alternative to the mainstream zeitgeist became much more widespread all of a sudden you began to see the phrases "Take your meds." and "schizo" and "schizoid". These are labels used in the same manner as the historical phrase "conspiracy theorist" to discredit people and lump them all in a big group of "mentally unsound individuals". It's because the term conspiracy theorist no longer carries the same negative connotations it once did. Now they need a new 21st century term to label undesirables.

Uh oh, he's a conspiracy theorist. Don't listen to him = Uh oh, he's a schizo. Don't listen to him.

God, what a clownshow. This world is a tragedy to those that think, a comedy to those that feel.

>> No.46791554
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>>46790807
>This world is a tragedy to those that think, a comedy to those that feel.

>> No.46791704

>>46790807
anon what the fuck are you talking about
you do know that In The Court of the Crimson King released in 1969 right?

>> No.46791729

>>46753114
Yeah she's a lesbo with me, we scissor every night

>> No.46793225

>>46789388
You should watch out for anyone that visits /r9k/

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>>46790095
I'm still mad she abandoned that model to go corpo. Her creator draws a godly tomboy.

>> No.46793992

>>46793528
>I'm still mad she abandoned that model to go corpo
Twice, even

>> No.46794383

Visiting 4chan in the past is not the same as being confirmed /here/ you absolute retards.

>> No.46794831

>>46794383
Chill out, Wosemi.

>> No.46795399

>>46753114
>he doesn't know

>> No.46798711

>>46787182
That doesn't work anymore ever since smartphones got introduced to every 3rd world poorfag who could just reset their IP with a restart. Saying nothing gives the impression that the rest AGREE with the "shitposter" and leave them to spread unfounded rrats uncontested.
"It's okay for them to shit on Mori/Bae/Kronii because they're not shitting on Irys" actively invites these people because they feel welcome. Some splits actually exert effort to tell these faggots to fuck off.

You're the newfag who couldn't even identify Epic Fail Guy.

>> No.46799800

>>46766063
Thx

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>>46760694
It's not just rich spoiled girls anon, pic related

>> No.46805408

>>46760694
well, when that twitch recap thing happened, one of them posted here while forgetting to censor their name
their most watched streamer asmongold or some other normiefag so it was very memorable

>> No.46807350

>>46760232
nigger even Facebook normies know what Loss is at this point

>> No.46811963

>>46749840
IRyS of all people shouldn't be here, she deserves much better and I don't think she can handle it

>> No.46815607

>>46790807
Take your meds schizo

>> No.46815826

>>46790807
Whatever, crackhead.

>> No.46817359

>>46760694
They are. It's enough that they know it exists and they know they're being talked about. If you knew that ResetEra was having threads about YOU every day, would you not be checking in on it at least periodically, regardless of what you think about ResetEra? It's about ego.

Furthermore this idea that 4chan is a well kept secret, or that people don't understand this side of their audience, or that its only for your peers needs to stop because you're living in the 2000s. If you are talking about someone here regularly, and that person cares at all about their social media presence or business, they are here. Whether its a vtuber, streamer, youtuber, developer, business, or politician. Depending who you are you don't even have to come directly here to get a nice summary of everything said about you using analytics platforms and AI. I've seen it and you underestimate the extent everything you say is captured and categorized by third parties. Twitter thinks x, reddit thinks x, 4chan thinks x. Keywords. Associations. Trends. Positive/negative opinion overall? etc

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>>46783925
>Getting you ready for your date with Risuner ASMR
Make it happen, Fauna

>> No.46820313

>>46761775
I recall there being a similar piece of evidence for Gura posting here (hell, I recall posting archive links of that), but I fucking forgot the words I used to look it up in the archives

>> No.46820662

>>46820313
>not bookmarking searches
>not taking screenshots
NGMI

>> No.46821139

>>46748158
Wasn't nyanners one of the first to voice act 4chan lolicon greentexts and years later she pivoted to becoming a vtuber?

>> No.46821444

>>46751485
>she can parse what is proper criticism/feedback from actual fans and what is just bait/hate
Nobody can actually extract true meanings from posts here consistently

>> No.46821641

>>46821139
There was a general trend in 2011 among amateur voice actors to use 4chan memes and comics as material. Nyanners was one of many to do so, but not necessarily one of the first.

>> No.46821674

>>46821444
Incorrect, as I can tell you are clearly hungry right now from your words alone.

>> No.46821812

>>46782853
>having spaces in directory names
Disgusting.

>> No.46822398

>>46749631
Remember those coupons? Ame was here.
Also I remember that immediately after Mori's debut, there was a poster saying they fucked it up with the low FPS fog and whatnot, so Mori was definitely here.

>> No.46822545

I wouldn't say Bae's /here/, but her manechan is definitely lurking in /rrat/ and hlgg.
Honestly it's pretty good, whenever there's been an actual stream issue that gets brought up it's usually fixed by the next stream, which is probably good knowing someone is looking out for your oshi so she doesn't see the absolute degenerate shit posted and only knows about the constructive feedback.

>> No.46822630

>>46745609
I can say that Bae isn't here, but she has friends that talk to her on a regular basis about 4chan stuff that ARE here.

>> No.46822684

>>46748070
check "yet another coincidence" in the archives

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>>46817359
>they are here because... muh feedback
>actually they don't even need to be here
>also, sometimes what is said on 4chan is parroted on other, less autistic social networks further proving your point that no opinion is exclusive of 4chan

Retardochama....

>> No.46824094

>>46745420
wow i could not give less of a fuck

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>>46745420
I'm convinced these are here with disdain for Reddit: Kronii, Fauna, Mori, Gura

And these are in addition absolute coomers: Kronii, Mori

>> No.46824473

>>46824094
enough fuck to comment, retard

>> No.46826050

If you really want them to read your comment, comment on a clip. They all admit to watching their clips.

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>>46824345
Kronii is a frequent browser of reddit

>> No.46827672

>>46822684
Merely coincidence, yet again

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>>46745420

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