/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Strim

>>46711567
Weak bait

FHDSJKFHKDJS OH NO

>>46711567
>aka do her JOB
I've seen how often you post about Gura, you should try doing a job yourself

>>46711759
No, go look at the Gura thread

>>46711567
>Do her job
But cover has already stated over and over again that they aren’t just streamers

literally what the actual flaming fuck is going on

>>46711567
This isn't real right?.....right?

O H N Y O :3c

>>46711567
Gura is pathetic

>>46711857

>>46711835

HAHAHAHAHA AINT NO FUCKING WAY

>>46711857
she did ban a word that's harmless like barbie for reasons though ;)

>>46711567
Ah cmon she can’t be THAT afraid people are gonna spam that word.

If the money wasn't ridiculously fucking easy she would've left a year into holoEN. She might fucking hate streaming but it's still better than a normal 9-5 job.

she is actually detached from reality, management unironically need to take her channel away from her before she does some real damage

>>46711857
Actually real. She should just announce that she's gonna be a part time streamer like Aqua, Ayame and Shion and just focus on being Cover's pet for ads and that shit like that, no one would publicly bother her with that and her fans would actually have a response forever, is that simple

>>46711835
>Check /ggg/
>Nobody posting proof, just claims
>One anon posts proof that he can use the word in chat
Ok.

>>46711567
NO FUCKING WAY

>>46711567
The joke writes it self at this point.

>>46712083
Then try it yourself you fucking faggot.

BRUH

>>46711981
Huh, why?

>>46711567
kek
but not surprising, really

>>46711567
SHES FUCKING HERE YOU CANT TELL ME OTHERWISE

cant ask about sdtream if i bannd the word huhaha

>>46711857
Just checked it myself sending a 1 dollar. It's real

>>46711567
Got a feeling Mori's behind this

>>46711857
Not banned in chat just SC's.

>>46712268
if you reload the chat frame your message will be gone. also, just click on the three dots. it's filtered. people have also been breaking it up with a space in VOD comments for several hours. she actually unironically added "stream" to the banned words list.

holy fucking shit, that fucking lazy shark
I fucking hate this part of HoloEN
Kiara and Mori at least do their work properly

>>46712192
I am shocked that a vtuber would read 4chan. This blows my mind

>>46712268
Your message gets shadowbanned. Only you can see it.

Bro you’re telling me out of the absolute nastiest things antis can do the word "stream" is enough to get to her? Really?

>>46712268
Check to see if there is 3 vertical dots on the right end of the message. If it went through the dots will be there, if there are no dots then your comment got moderated.

>>46712250
Keep seething kekbud moris doing just fine and she's absolutely broken Gura. She's completely destroyed her and it never felt so good. Gura can rot in self isolation

>>46711567
This is unironically what mental illness and schizophrenia from a vtuber looks like.

>>46711567
Was there really a need to do that? No way her audience called her out on that in her own chat.

>>46712268
SC are public for everyone and you're using your money, so you can't actually send them with banned words. Public chats appear only for you, but if you f5 you will see that the message wasn't send

>>46712329
Chumbuds should just use delivery instead, I bet she didn't ban that word.

>>46711567
This is honestly kind of a slap to the face to all the other holo girls who stream constantly despite either being sick or very busy

>>46711567
Gura i know you absolutely hate your fans but isn’t this a little much?

ₕᵤhaʰᵃʰᵃʰᵃʰᵃʰᵃʰᵃ

It's over... The antis got to her.

Serious question, why does anyone care about Gura streaming or not?

>Chumbuds
It's been 2 years of >no streams. They're literally conditioned and mindbroken to be used to this, and those who do say their grievances get shit on by other chumbuds so they just don't
>Non chumbuds
They don't watch Gura anyways

Literally who cares at this point pic not related

>can't say "Thanks for the stream!" in a superchat or regular chat message
Wtf this can't be real. She will get bonked by management for that if that's true.

can she graduate already
if its a bait post, I DONT CARE

>>46712706
gura is streaming in 3 hours though

>>46712706
Because she's a core of the sickness in HoloEN. She needs to be rooted out or cured, but the status quo has got to go

>>46712409
>mori broke gura
Since when are they at war?

>>46712738
>She will get bonked by management
Who do you think approved of this anon

>>46712391
Gura isn’t exactly the most mentally healthy individual her paranoia is legit chronic.

>>46712923
kek

>>46712820
I'm guessing all the chumbuds retardedly flooding Cover's contact form with "Where are Gura's streams?!" messages pissed them off enough to mention it to her. This is her way of handling the situation.

>>46711567
PISSCHADS THIS CAN'T BE HAPPENING TO US

>>46712808
This was entirely predictable, though. She was like this before she was Gura too.

>>46711567
wtf this is hilarious (if true)

>>46712923

>>46712799
I never said she doesn't stream ever retard I was referencing how little she does nowadays.

>>46712808
I didn't ask for your LARPshit anon. Like I said, if you're a chumbud, you most likely don't give a shit if Gura barely streams.
If you aren't a chumbud (which it seems like you aren't), why are you worried about this dumb bitch not streaming. Watch your Oshi instead. Gura never streaming doesn't effect your oshi one bit.

Only shitposters/dramafags care about Gura not streaming.

oops i accidentlly the stream huhaha

>>46712923
Holy based

>>46711567
Holy kek. Gura needs to just tell people why she isn't streaming and it wouldn't even have to be the truth. She could just make something up and it would be enough to get people off her back. She could just say "anxiety" and leave it at that. But by stonewalling people like this she's making it fester. What's her problem?

>>46712198
Probably banned the word because it had negativity in those messages

>>46713134
anon she won't even say THAT she isn't streaming.

>>46712808
dude they'll do anything to keep her even if she wanted to graduate. my personal rrat is that she's asked to graduate, but management freaked out and agreed to just let her stream as and when she likes. she brings in too much money just by existing for them to graduate her. I guarantee they'd sooner give her a Kizuna Ai style soft-graduation with a chance of returning rather than actually letting her go once and for all.

>>46713028
>If you aren't a chumbud (which it seems like you aren't), why are you worried about this dumb bitch not streaming
I just fucking told you you illiterate fuck. She's part of a larger problem and it won't go away until she does. Her behavior is literally making my experience worse even if I never watch her

>>46713234
>a larger problem
Do you mind explaining what that is?

i can... i can just ban them...i can ban them all...huhahahahaha

>>46713234
don't be retarded, you've got the same issue over in JP with Ayame, Aqua and Shion streaming once in a blue moon, but people don't mald and seethe nearly as hard because it isn't Gura

>>46711567
Im so disappointed i think i might end my membership after all….

Gooba…..

>>46713437
better yet, just end your existence

>>46712706
why do (You) care??? checkmate atheist

>>46711567
GURA HATES ME MWAAAAAAAAAA

>>46712923
Genius.
But how long until she replaces Z too?

>>46713327
His mental illness. Hopefully he kills himself soon.

ddid you say somthing chumbie? chuumbie?: lets sing a ssong

>>46712923
Lmao

Gura can do whatever but I do think its a pretty cunty move to ban a common word like 'stream' from SC/chat, holy fuck Gura you have been on the internet for years you know how this shit works and how this will backfire.

>>46713602
KEK

>another gura thread
200+ replies ikz

>>46712923

>>46713553
>why do (You) care?
I'm asking a question I never said I did. But personally I don't. I haven't watched Gura since debut aside from big group collabs. But I don't get why others seethe so hard when they can just do the same (aka watch other people)

>>46711567
you were gonna pay half a grand to send that 1 word to hear you rich or stupid anon.

>>46712923

>>46713776
he obviously tried it with a lower amount first, unless he's either a complete tard, an oil prince, or both

>>46713359
Almost like the most mentally ill retards here have a double standard axe to grind.

No way, this is real? I lost interest in her a while ago but never felt the need to anti her. But wow, if this is real then fuck Gura, i hope cover cicks her out...but of course that wont happen. EN is mostly a dumpster fire anyways.

>>46711567
Jesus this is beyond bitch behavior imagine instead of confronting your fans about it and politely asking them to not spam certain words you just decide to go full 1984 and straight up ban those words without ever giving any kind of warning or context as to why you took away your fans ability to express their opinions using those words. Maybe gura should just go all out and turn off live chat all together if shes fo fucking paranoid.

>>46714122
>to go full 1984
Again, if you choose to continue engaging with these mentally ill monkeys, be my guest. Understand that there's no actual yab here, but this is the kind of reaction they push to make like there is.

>>46711567
Thank god I switched oshis so I don’t have to deal with such a controlling bitch lmao.

>>46714297
>there is nothing wrong with a streamer banning the word "stream" without warning

>>46714297
This isn't banning a word like 'faggot', 'cunt', 'trans rights' or something like that. Its literally 'stream', something that can be part of fairly innocent messages. Maybe 'yab' isn't the word to describe it but its not a nothing burger either.

>>46711835
>Now the bait consist in bringing traffic to the paid threads

>>46711567
Is this what haring your fans looks like?

>>46714443
Okay, take the temperature down and consider this. It's just so the stream isn't 10:1 messages relating to streaming, positive or negative. Just talk about anything else but that. She doesn't have chat mods. She doesn't give lectures. Just get a clue for a bit.

Mori deflec... Wait a sec??? Is it real???

Its not a good look.
And I highly doubt a manager would be ok with her banning that word, so she likely did it herself.

lmao this is too funny. but also kind of pathetic in a way. the absolute state of Gura and the chumbuds at this point

>all this chum cope in this thread

Literally there’s nothing you can say that can diverge from the reality of why she banned that word. Its clear she knows damn well how little she streams snd feats genuine criticism from her fans.

>>46714860
Its obvious at this point that Gura can walk all over management and get away with anything she feels like

ok now I'm actually convinced of the vtsisters thing

>>46711567
Actually a cunt move, if real that is

>>46714702
>She doesn't have chat mods
She does. Watch streams. Shouldn't be hard considering how little there are.

>>46714702
>no mods
Imagine being less than a clipwatcher
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tf2rftVupc

>>46714910
it's more like management will do absolutely anything to get her to stay.
if she's this menhera about streaming do you really think she hasm't brought up graduating? they just desperately want to keep her around.
I bet that if not for Kizuna Ai already doing the whole replacement VA thing and everyone losing their fucking minds over it, someone else would be skinwalking Gura now

Chumkeks….

>>46715313
Yeah. "Uh oh!" was 100% a threat

this is just sad

>>46715402
It was quite obviously a threat.
"I don't need you as much as you need me."
Her PL is an open secret and if she went back to it, she would do just fine monetarily. Would she make as much there as she does in Hololive? No probably not, but shes already made a shitton and could continue to live comfortably in her PL.

Kek this is almost rushia levels of unprofessional.

Here to see if people actually fell for this bait, classy, KEK

>>46715402
if I wanted to go full schizo I'd say that the tweet was her preparing to restart activities as sen, and she was already in talks with management about graduating back then, but they managed to change her mind about it. hence just the one tweet then radio silence.

>>46715313
You think Mumei was brought in for any reason other than swap out?

>>46715781
It was the anniversary of something you would know if you followed her back then.... fucking KEK, you idol shills really are losing it huh?

>>46715927
it can be multiple things at once you retard

>>46712214
You can't attach messages to 1usd """""supas""""".

>>46711567
>til i can't buy gura's attention anymore

>>46715927
Holy rent free

>>46713776
>>46713932
There's a payment confirmation if the SC isn't hit by the filter.

>>46715707
The 100+ replies in over an hour should probably give you a good idea.

>>46712923
ThE ABSOLUTE STATE

>>46715927
I followed her back then (more than I ever followed Gura) and have no fucking clue what you're on about.

>>46716011
Uh huh, absolutely

Steams isn't banned but stream and streaming are

Imagine being a gaybud in this day and age lol absolute ludicrousness.

>>46712152
i can't say otherwise i'd break the rules

>>46715906
as amusing as the thought is, that'd be way too obvious. if they wanted a new VA there's no chance she comes from within Holo, people will notice in 2s flat

Are we really about to bring ANOTHER gura bait thread to bump limit?

>>46711981
Is it j as in jews?

>>46716888
>bait
I truly love how delusional chumbuds are sometimes. It's like getting a flat earther to outer orbit

>>46716888
Its even worst when you see the IP count about to go into the hundreds.

>>46716888
anon, she banned the words "stream" and "streaming" from her stream chat. let it fucking sink in.

Just checked in member prechat and it's true
You can send it, but if you refresh the frame, the message is gone

So it's over?

>>46711567
Sad, this is the first time I'm gonna stay unmembered after one of these random breaks. She obviously doesn't care anymore, it's really that simple.

God please someone save Kiara, i dont watch her or anyone else from Holo but she doesnt deserve to be dragged down with this sinking ship

>>46712923
Z!

>anything that makes my oshi look like the unhinged lazy whore she is is just bait
the absolute municipality of chumkeks

>>46717280
Kiara is doing perfectly fine and is getting the Holo buff and is in 0 drama despite doing whatever she wants and she literally has head of EN management (Jenma) as her slave. She doesn't need "saving"

>>46717126
Two more weeks

>>46717280
where the fuck do you want her to go? nijiEN? vshojo? KEK

>>46712923
/vt/ zizter keep winning

>>46717126
it should've been over a while back, let's see when cover finally agrees to let her go (hint: not anytime soon)

>>46717474
>zizter
OMG STOP

>>46717509
but what about Ogayu?

>>46715588
Chumbuds are having a parade over there. I don't think they are "sad" tho.

>>46717430
Good, thanks, thats reassuring.
>>46717446
Oh god no, i said save, not kill

shark eat borgar

>>46716377
It's a shame Yuko became an algorithm whore after seeing Rin print dimes.

Is this real

WHEN WILL GURA ZTREAM?

>>46711567
>It’s real
Holy FUCK, that’s bad.

Shut the fuck up already oh my god, you retards are always ALWAYS looking for shit to complain about
>doesn't stream
LAZY WHORE
>streams
SHE DOESN'T CARE AND HATES STREAMING AND HATES HER FANS
>actively asks her fans about their day and consistently engages them with questions
REEEEEE SHE BANNED THE WORD STREAM
>Is the most active she's ever been in her own chat, literally REPLYING TO PEOPLE TYPING IN CHAT

Have you faggots ever thought that maybe she banned the word because she finally came back from Cover keeping her on a stupidly busy 8 hour schedule? And during that she has to see people go "durrr kronii streamed while she lost her voice why aren't you streaming?", like wow she must really like people saying "you should stream even when you're on your death bed"

Fucking retards, go back to sucking fallen shadow's dick or gosling-ing for Ame

>>46717971
>>46711567

F-f-fake!
I want proof!
Give me a webm with a timestamp!
No i want to see it for my own eyes
BUY me a membership RIGHT now and give a prepaid visa card so i can super-chat her!
RIGHT NOW
RIIIIIIIIGHT NOWWWWWWWWW
Or this is all fake and bullshit!
>he actually believes these schizoposting
LOSER NIJINIGGER, I'M SURE OF IT

>>46718557
anon you can test the same filter by posting a comment on a public VOD.

my oshi doesn't need to hecking 5tream I'll keep giving her every paycheck regardless
I hope she enjoys spending it on the mountain of condoms her boyfriend needs
after all how can I expect her to 2tream when hecking Cover the black company makes her work a whole hour a day

>>46718787
this but unironically

>>46711567
skill issue

>Gura streams
>troons still having a meltdown
literally rent fucking free. I don't understand what's about this funny shork that makes every subhuman on this board seethe so hard.

>>46716377
pseudo tag tactic, these leeches know exacly what they're doing.

>>46719053
>streams
it's ZTREAMS, bigot

>>46718518
Nah Gura is straight up lazy stop giving excuses when she has coworkers who have dealt with worse health issues and more work than her

>>46719095
Aha hilarious meme sister. Absolutely btfo.

>>46712923

>>46711567
Queen of retards. She just let all the trolls know they live rent free in her head. Now they'll push even harder.

>>46713212
Is it even a rrat by this point? Gura’s famous, but plenty of people who recognize her either don’t give a shit about vtubers or used to but don’t anymore.
She might be the only thing giving HoloEN a chance to regain relevance again if they decide to fix their shit. I suppose we’ll know if the rrat is true if they debut EN3 and Gura graduates shortly thereafter.

>>46712808
>She needs to be rooted out or cured
There is zero chance in hell of Cover letting her go. She's a mascot at this point, why would you let your most prolific talent go? It wouldn't be a good look or good for morale.
It'd be better to cure her, but you can't cure someone that doesn't want to be cured.

>>46711567
so type strim or streem or $tream instead

>>46719270
>prolific
i don't think that word means what you think it means, chumbud

>>46711567
Thank you for seething over my cute shark wife.
I will never stop loving my lovely and wonderful shark wife.
You can keep seething eternally, but I will never sway.

>>46713665
She goes outside and touches grass when she’s not streaming. I unironically believe that she avoids the internet when she can in order to keep herself from wasting hours on twitter or 4chan or whatever else.
That means as long as she doesn’t have to deal with it during the stream, Gura doesn’t care about the backlash.

>>46712808
>he thinks cover will force Gura to do anything
>when she brings in money and isn't even the talent with the least streaming hours yearly
these larps are weird, either that or they're new to this medium

>>46719167
Negro, bunch of the so-called 'hardworking' HoloEN members are streaming right now, If you want to prove quantity > quality why on earth would you spend time on this place and not watch their streams?

Their fans vote with their actions and so do the chumbuds. Its that simple.

>>46719509
the fact that she banned means that she was reading the backlash anon

>>46718518
Sorry, Koyori has had little to no breaks since debut and she streams at least once a day.
No excuses.

>>46719516
>Fire their top 2 earners of all time
>Gura (36) losing ground to Koyori (37) of all people despite the time gap while Mori brings in the endorsement and sponsorship money
When will chumbuddies realize a large dead pool equates to fuck all if they don't drop bills?

>>46719405
based and oshi-pilled

Thank you for zeething over my cute zhark wife.
I will never ztop loving my lovely and wonderful zhark wife.
You can keep zeething eternally, but I will never zway.

>>46719242
I mean, the rrat part is that she asked to graduate. The rest is facts though, she's far too big (and important to EN or even Holo as a whole) for Cover to let her go without fighting tooth and nail to keep her.

>>46719280
Anon, how big do you want the list of forbidden words to grow by the end of the night?

>>46719871
>proves his point
kek

>his oshi streamed so little she bans the word "stream" in her chat
LMAO CHUMKEK STATUS?

>>46719344
She's pretty much the face of vtubing in the west, maybe what a good chunk of vtuber fans immediately think of when they assume the concept. Losing her wouldn't be a good look for Cover, especially not their EN branch.
Granted, if this is Gura's current work ethic then it's not a guarantee she'd thrive even if she were to go indie. There'd be no management to point to for when things go wrong, mistakes that go wrong would only really be up to her.

>>46719770
I'm not even a chumbud, but it's clearly not just about superchat dollars. It's about merch sales, and pure recognition as well. Why do you think she's on the fucking Shibuya Holo ad, instead of any other Holo, especially a JP?

>>46720064
anon, it means someone who delivers a large number of works.

>>46720019
probably enjoying themselves in an hour

>>46719881
>...even Holo as a whole
This is the answer. Shes their largest sub count and they just went public. The ball is completely in her court and she knows it.
As others have already said, the tweet on her PL a few months ago was her reminder to them that she doesn't need them, they need her.
She will literally get away with anything that doesn't straight up break a NDA.
Expect her streaming to be this sparse for the foreseeable future.

>>46711567
Bros... not like this...

>>46719697
The fact that she only banned it today means that it must not have broken containment enough until recently. I’m not saying she doesn’t know or doesn’t read the hate, I’m saying she’s trying to turn chat into a hugbox so nobody who’s not /here/ knows about it.

>>46720203
Might be the last gura stream this month, they better appreciate it.

>>46711567
She really is mindbroken huh
I guess I overestimated her. She always seemed super smart about managing her content too me

>>46720285
nobody knows what the future holds except for your seething

>>46720366
don't cope too hard now chumkek

>>46720366
>said the chumbud who is totally not seething

>>46720366
Gura streaming more would only be a good thing.

>>46717474
we call them ziggers

>>46720337
She's a complete mess for over a year.

>>46720399
>>46720402
>>46720448
so that anon was right that it's 3 of you, damn he's good

ohh nyo :3

>>46720692
i just got here, but keep coping

>>46720692
>30 IPs
Keep going

>>46711567
So send it via streamlabs?

>>46720220
Yeah, she mogs the next highest Holo by 2 fucking million. Dead subs or not, that's a stupid number, and you can try to explain it to investors all you want, but 4.3m with the next being 2.3m and there's no shot you convince them the two are even close.

The "uh oh" tweet depends on how much credit you want to give her. Either she's milking Cover for all they're worth, or she just really wants to quit and return to her PL where she could just put out shitposts whenever she felt like it but they're begging her to stay, at least for a while until they can announce a new gen or do something equally hype to prove to investors that they're in a good place before they let their biggest talent go. I personally think she's broken and just wants to quit, if she were greeding it up she would stream regularly but just phone it in to rake in superchats before leaving. She's not doing that, so I think she just wants out.

>>46720833
gura doesn't have a ztreamlabs

>>46720276
It was already banned yesterday, my comment wasn't showing up on her last Minecraft VOD

>>46712923
HAHAHHAHAHAHHAHHAH HOLY FUCK IM DYING!

Holy shit. Is she afraid of sarcastic SC? Take your money, let your mods do what they need to you fucking retard. Or maybe, I dunno, stream for your fans so you don't feel like shit when they're upset you don't ever stream of them. Or do what this Anon said >>46712067 and the shitpostings and shit talking would stop because people would just say "Yeah, she was forward with her actions, so what?".

Holy shit, it's real.

>>46721017
>gura reads comments
Antis btfo again!

>>46719770
>'fire' two people with issues that go beyond streaming or not
>surely this means they will fire someone who makes them money just because of their choice of streams
If this were the case, Holos who don't stream full time would be long gone, gone before Gura even touched this company

>>46720366
She is gonna go to Japan again to prepare to perform a live version of the Blue Journey (her words - "chance to meet Suisei in person is coming"), antis will seethe over it like never before as this is the most prestige certification of talent, meanwhile their Tempus cocksleeve of an oshi is gasping for more FOTM's.

mfw someone complains about streams

>>46712198
>>46712689
>>46713055
>>46713341
>>46718557
>>46719405
>>46719871
>>46720720
>>46721232
What do you call this?

>>46721232
>zteams*
ftfy

>>46721272
banning the word "stream" from your stream chat is a full-on fucking meltdown, anon. there's no face-saving explanation for it.

>>46711567

>>46721272
actually good posts
any form of "discussion" on this board is like trying to derive meaning from diarrhea in a toilet

>>46721272
Copebuds coping, let them enjoy their one out of two streams of the week

>>46721272
Retardation. It's people who are very stuck in their mindset who for some reason have to come defend her from shitposts and criticism in random catalogue threads.
>>46721357
Imagine if someone unironically wanted to thank her for streaming. One of her long time fans was just happy she was back. and it's banned.

>>46721182
yeah, if streaming irregularly was an issue, Ayame, Aqua and Shion would be gone. yet Cover understands that it's far better to keep them, they're widely loved and fans will buy their merch and buy live tickets when they perform, regardless of how often they stream.

>>46721182
There’s a solution to this, although I’m not sure if it would be a good idea. At the very least it might have been at the start.
>It’s ok when JP does it
There, I said it. Have different rules for JP and EN. JP gets away with it because there’s tons of non-streaming material for the girls to appear in, and there’s also plenty of other JP girls who do stream to pick up the slack.
EN doesn’t have the luxury of surviving half of its members not streaming. Therefore, the rules should be different for them. Of course, at this point it would be an utter disaster, since we’d see mass graduations.

>>46721424
Yes, but Gura doesn’t want longtime fans to thank her for finally streaming. That also draws attention to the fact that she doesn’t stream.
>it’s from a fan who doesn’t have any malicious intent
You think that if she cared she would have banned the word in the first place?

>>46719648
I don’t think this makes Gura look better than you think my friend

>>46721424
>someone who's unironically gossiping over a word filter thinking he's in a position to call others retards
lmao

>>46721272
What do you call this? hookek
>a million subs
nah Mumei you're just a walmart Gura

>>46721481
The EN girls with interest in appearing in non streaming media have no problems doing so, the topic here (Gura) admittedly appeared in a decent amount of non streaming media, especially for someone who doesn't live near the studio

Hololive has actual 'talent freedom' despite what some might say, if someone wants to stream a lot or sing a lot or appear in skits a lot that's all on them.

>>46721481
there's no fucking shot. the first person hit by this rule is Gura, and we've established that management would sooner form a red carpet with their bodies to let Gura walk over them than let her graduate. it doesn't matter whether you love her or hate her, her existence alone is huge for Cover. you think they didn't know what they were doing when they pushed for the EN who streams the least to be Tokyo tourism ambassador, or put her front and center in the fucking Shibuya station ad when 90% of people seeing it don't understand a word she says? hehe cute shork is legitimately all the reason needed for management to keep her around, she's too valuable to them.

>>46711567
I remember when this got posted last year too. Lots of newfags around. Good job, OP.

>>46721653
>Mad people are shit talking other on the internet
What the fuck do you expect?

>>46721653
Imagine if a dentist filtered the word tooth.

>>46721758
you're right, having expectations was a mistake

>>46721781
>dental analogy

>>46721800
You're coming to a zone of gossip. This board is essentially what the eceleb board would be but limited to vtubers. This is why they never make an eceleb board. What the fuck else are you going to do here? You can go to the specific thread for your favorite girl/oshi to talk about the stream and your enjoyment or disappointment of it, but the catalogue is a zone for talking shit.

>>46720834
The thing about that though is chumbuds throw a shit ton of cash at her anytime shes gone for a week or more at a time.
Stream once or twice a week, leave for a week (or more), come back and do 1-2 more. Cash in, rinse repeat. Its literally what shes been doing already for months.
>The "uh oh" tweet depends on how much credit you want to give her.
She 100% knows what shes doing.

>>46721133
I don't watch the shark nor anyone from EN but honestly that's all they should do: instead of fucking off quietly and making promises that end up becoming lies just say straight forward that you aren't gonna stream consistently because you will focus on other things and that you can't guarantee any number of streams per months.
After that if someone seethes is up to them but being transparent is ultimately the right thing, most professional thing to do.

>chumkeks in the last /ggg/ thread got so butthurt they started dumping CP to seethe at the jannies
Holy KEK

>>46721931
Thank you sensei of the catalog, for imparting your wisdom on me. May your oshi bless you on your path of enlightenment.

>>46721974
true. also I suppose having a good idea of how monetarily valuable you are and being insanely mentally unstable are non-mutually exclusive. I still find it funny how a simple two word tweet caused the entire EN vtubing sphere to collectively lose their minds for a week or so. hate her or love her, you can't deny that she's huge.

GURA HATE GURA HATE

>>46721749
Yeah, that’s exactly the problem and why I have doubts as to whether it’ll work. Because it would have to not apply to Gura, and telling people explicitly that they’re giving Gura special treatment (because they have no other choice since the branch would die), but also that they’re bringing the law down on everyone else (because they have no other choice since the branch would die) is a morale killer.
I mean, the other tactic is to do an overhaul of management so the girls don’t have to deal with such unhelpful assholes. But we all know Cover would rather chase the male vtuber market rather than address the issues in HoloEN.

I don't think people would be so harsh on her if she just talked about why there's huge gaps in her streaming schedule.

>You're not feeling well
>The internet's down
>You've got a sunburn
>You've got an illness that you can't talk about at all
>A family situation occurred
>You have multiple projects you're working on

If we're trying, and I mean GENUINELY trying to be reasonable here, there's a certain point where people's participation and trust in you wavers. There's just too many different excuses that pile up and at the end of the day, there's no way you're such a disaster that all these things pile up together one after the other. You'd be better off talking about it openly so you don't have to filter an extremely common word that gets used all the time on your own fucking stream.

Doesn't matter how you put it, man. That's fuckin' weirdo shit. I kind of agree with others in this thread that she's got Cover by the fucking balls (and not in a hot, sexy kind of way), where they're basically letting her do whatever the fuck she wants because she's too valuable to let go.

>>46712923
Ztream?

>>46722687
anon you can't even get her to say THAT she's not streaming, let alone say anything about why.

>>46722687
>if she just
stopped reading there

>>46712923
this is pretty funny
you know she's /here/

>>46722634
they could've also released EN3 before a second wave of Tempus, but they didn't for who-knows-what fucking reason.

>>46722966
Because they already had 2 members on standby that they likely had to pay while getting no content out of them while they waited for debut.
They had to quickly get two more and push them out so they didnt have to pay for talents that werent producing any sort of content.

>>46722687
People laid off her when she announced the hiatus, everyone knew something was obviously wrong before that point so having official confirmation wasn't a surprise, a relief really because she was acknowledging she wasn't up to doing her job and was taking time to "fix" it. If she is still unable to stream consistently and bothered enough to blacklist a word that is used in chat by everyone then I agree with you, acknowledge it, tell people you are a part time streamer until your issues are resolved or extend the hiatus because you are clearly still not okay. It's disappointing but it is what it is. I would still watch her if she only streamed a couple of times a month I just wouldn't be constantly hoping for more. It would probably be freeing for her rather than stringing people along like this.

>>46722687
It’s the usual thing menhera people do when they don’t have their shit together. I know because this was me all the time before I was diagnosed with ADHD, started taking meds, and also started improving myself seriously.
Gura likely knows how ridiculous this is, except her mind probably can’t come up with anything except “Why can’t you just stream you fucking retard”? So she decides to not bring it up to herself or let anyone else bring it up to her, because she can’t come up with a reason other than, well…being a menhera, lazy piece of shit.
Like, it is more complicated than that. Just shitting on her isn’t gonna make her stream. That said, the only other option, creating a hugbox, isn’t helpful either. There’s literally nothing anyone can do other than pray that someone who knows her irl calls her out on this shit. And anyone who knows Gura irl is much more likely to encourage her to move on to other things and ditch “those loser incels”.

>>46722687
>>46723494
>>46723628
I stopped going to /ggg/ because any time you bring up legitimate criticism like this they just plug their ears and keep sucking shark cock while acting all smug about it.
Doesn't matter if you're a rainbow trident, sent super-chats, paid to see her concerts, or bought all her merch including the daki. If you ask for basic communication or to steam anything other than Minecraft you're a fake fan or an anti.

It almost makes me embarrassed to be associated with such insufferable yes men.
Yet despite my morale growing weaker with each passing day, I will continue to stay membered and hold out hope that things will get better.

>>46722687
She hates streaming bro
Why else do you think she doesn't give a reason?

>>46712923

>>46723826
anon, what concrete basis can you find to be hopeful that things will get better instead of continuing to get worse?

why do people defend her

>>46723826
I still like gura and shit, still a rainbow trident but she's relegated to side oshi status, I only go to /ggg/ to shitpost at this point

>>46723826
It sucks but that's basically every general for a specific streamer. Any time you have something you weren't happy about, because they can't see your post history, they assume you're just a person coming to shit up the thread even if it's just one small thing that annoyed you or you didn't like. It's so fucking annoying sometimes.

>>46711567

>>46723826
maybe It's just that you couldn't move on because you're an anti?
>asking chumbuds for the official info
retarded nigger

>>46724215
>proving his point
shouldn't you be enjoying your one stream for the week instead of defending your oshi's honour?

>>46722687
Why do people say dumbass shit like this? I mean Yeah Gura's number is impressive but even if you remove her you have Mori,Marine and Peko
http://virtual-youtuber.userlocal.jp/document/ranking/
Even though they put AI-chan in their business report nobody cares about her because her company literally pissed her away and she's probably never coming back, Coco was their highest SC earner and they let her leave also had no problem canning Rushia who took over for Coco.
They do not need Gura in the least

>>46723826
beggar moment

gura won
cover went public and is her hostage now

I heard this was the gura hate thread is this the right place?

Someone please make a collage of all the cope posts '

>>46723628
>...likely to encourage her to move on to other things
I'm pretty much convinced this is what she wants to do. She would rather just go back to shitposting on her PL than to keep dealing with the rapid fanbase that Gura has.

>>46723628
Best explanation so far

I have ADD and do shit like this too honestly. Letting stuff in my life fall apart because I'm just too lazy and uninterested to fix it

>>46723628
adhd and depression-haver, and this absolutely checks out. bonus points if you're depressed, since you'll just spiral as you feel more and more worthless for not being able to do basic shit that all your peers can (just press stream lmao) and then you end up lying in bed all day doing fuck-all and wondering why your life is going to pieces despite having everything it takes to succeed.

of course I can't say for sure what Gura is thinking or feeling, but as someone who has also thrown away golden opportunities because of my own mental state, I can't help but feel that there's a compelling explanation there.

>another gura thread hitting bump limit

ANTIS WE WON

>>46712214
Fucking retard anon>>46715996

>>46724518
I'm going to assume you're asking this in good faith, so here's a couple things:
1. Gura's numbers aren't just big. She has almost twice as many subs as the next Holo (Marine at 2.3m) and is the most subbed vtuber on the planet, unless you count that one Cookie chick who got her following before becoming a vtuber.
2. Her value goes far, far beyond just SC revenue. Cover is keenly fucking aware of this: why do you think she's front and center on the Shibuya station ad, when 90+% of the people who look at it can't understand a fucking word she says? Why not a JP, or their highest superchat earner? Gura herself is a brand at this point, just her face alone brings Cover/Holo recognition beyond simple superchat numbers.
3. Gura doesn't need to stream to bring value. Her merch sells well, people will buy tickets to see her perform in lives. Hell, she could even do other content like Hologra and be wildly successful there. See: Ayame, who doesn't stream very much but you slap her in a Hologra and have her say "yo dayo" or "yo dazo" and it's an instant hit.

And no matter what you say, it looks awful if you go public, and your biggest vtuber just ups and leaves. They want to have something to offset that before they let her go.

Chumbies should just drop her already

>commenting on her latest stream the word "stream" gets manually deleted now
What the fuck is she doing

>>46711567
So did you pay her 5 bucks to make this anti thread or were you gifted?

>>46726213
>or were you gifted?
With a high IQ, yes.

>>46711567
No "stream" has become Official now lol

>>46725862
Gura won. I absolutely respect her.
Imagine mindbreaking the entirety of the vtubing scene + the very company that hired her just by existing. Doesn't even need to stream.
I wish I could achieve such power.

>>46711567
>Gura banned the word "stream"

where's Gura name?

>>46726288
I know your mom likes to call you very special but....

>>46726476
This is Gura's world, and we just live in it.

>>46723628
>>46724828
>>46725216
I think this is why this behavior from her is so difficult for me to watch despite not having Gura as my oshi. I see in her behavior a reflection of the worst parts of myself and it hurts more than I care to admit. Having such simple tasks become way harder than they need to be to the point of it destroying your life... I hope that's not what's happening to her, but I implicitly believe it is based on what we're seeing.

>>46725862
All I'm reading is that she's the casual fans picture of a vtuber.
Leave it to casuals to like the person who acts like she doesn't care about her fans.

>>46726845
Yeah, and like it or not, the casuals are the majority of fans. That's why she's big, that's why she has such widespread recognition, that's why she sells. That's why you'll see people who don't watch streams or know any other vtubers with Gura merch or cosplaying as Gura. Us rabid shitposters on the Mongolian basket-weaving forum are by far the vast minority.

>>46726845
Yes. When your average semi-normie friend thinks of a vtuber they think of Pekora, Korone and Gura.
>she doesn't care about her fans
You mean her most obsessed ones. To the majority of them, casual vtuber fans, she's doing perfectly fine by streaming every while and then. All the menhera, obsessed ones like the entirety of this board already moved to vtubers that cater to their ADHD needs already. It's pointless screaming "chumbies change oshi!!!", they don't give a shit.

>>46723628
>All these replies with people on meds being Gura antis

It all makes sense now, all these people are fucking schizos

>>46727469
INT 0 post

>cropped screenshot with 0 indication it's from a gura stream
>this many replies

>>46727848
test it yourself. make a comment on a public VOD with the word 'stream' or 'streaming'. show us.

>>46727469
? us adhd fags are sympathetic, if anything. watching her is like looking in the mirror, any disgust is directed at ourselves, not her.

>shitting up the chat/comments
>get filtered
lmfao keep seething. next minute they'll start handing out perm bans if you didn't take the hint yet.

>>46727469
No, we’re the ones who hold off. I usually mock chumbuds who don’t face the truth, or I use Gura as a symptom of HoloEN’s problems. Gura’s not the cause of these issues but she’s making it worse. However, having to confront the fact that she’ll never be a “real vtuber” (aka, like the HoloJP girls) and she’ll always be an underachieving mediocrity is punishment enough for her. And Gura doesn’t need /vt/ to realize that.

>>46727848
>Cumpedo in this level of denial
As expected

>>46729011
>an underachieving mediocrity
anon, she's a lying scammer.

I don't get why it matters
She did it because you guys keep shitting her chat, obvious response. She doesn't want to address it, end of the story. This doesn't change anything, she still won't stream

Gura is literally the only one who gets threads created over her doing the most pointless and uninteresting shit. Remember her changing her fucking Twitter bio?
If you're one of the people who want to see her fail, please understand that you're doing the complete opposite by doing this.
>>46729621
>scammer
She never makes promises of any kind though. She just vanishes without saying a word

>>46729725
>if i use vague words to imply that i'm going to deliver content then it doesn't count
no. she's a lying scammer.

>>46729843
She never does
She just usually says
>I MIGHT stream
>I MAY stream dunno
It's always a conditional for her
She barely utters the word "promise" at all

>>46729925
you've described how she scams.

>>46711567
Why are chumbuds the literal worst of the community? They enable Mori and Kronii even Ame. Why are they allowed

>>46716888
Lol this is a big fucking deal unironically. It's proof she hates her fans and her job.

>>46729967
nta, but if you think conditionals represent unequivocal promises, I may have a bridge to sell you

>>46722088
NOOOO BUT SHE'S LIKE SHY AND HAS ANXIETY AND SHIT

>>46730065
>Lol this is a big fucking deal unironically.
The reason why she's successful is because every small thing she does is a big fucking deal for you guys and you end up keeping her popular forever.

>>46712050
From the very beginning not debuting EN2 in January 2021 and EN3 in summer 2021 was a huge mistake, it allowed cunny to gain control of the market. All of them, especially gura, made too much money so she feels comfy in fucking off, the only reason she hasn't is probably special contractual obligations specific to her since cover would be retarded to let people like pekora or suisei go without a fight.

>>46730367
the reason she's successful is because she's le reddit tuber who got lucky in the covid surge. literally no other reason

>>46730472
She got lucky you retards keep giving her attention.

>>46730510
Not a single comment on 4chins is ever going to change her sphere of influence you retard. We could ban /ggg/ and literally never mention her and she wouldn't notice

>>46711567
>NOOOO WHY DOES SHE NOT WANT TO BE CONTINUOUSLY BOMBARDED BY US SCHIZOS
>WHY CAN'T SHE JUST FORCE HERSELF TO BE OUR DANCING MONKEY

>>46730665
>Not a single comment on 4chins is ever going to change her sphere of influence you retard.
This board is pretty popular among the Western vtuber community.

>>46715402
No it wasn't. How the fuck do you get there was a threat from that? She was just having fun. Take your meds retard.

>>46713212
This isn't even a rrat at this point. She obviously doesn't enjoy streaming so that's the only logical conclusion

I wholeheartedly hope Gura graduates soon. It's not worth it anymore. She's terrible to her fans

>>46714939
vsisters?

>>46715677
she's losing it. It's obvious she doesn't wanna stay in holo and cover is trying everyhting in their power to make her.

Please, for the love of god, debut EN3. I don't care if none of them can 'topple' her, I just want more EN girls who give a shit.

>>46717126
Cover will do anything possible to keep her, hell they likely already are

>>46717190
Genuine question: Do you think she ever did? I mean no offense but it seems to me like she burned out after a year and it's all been hell for her since

>>46720220
>they need her
Her SC income and membership income has collapsed, she's useful because she has a lot of subs but Mori is the one who they have under contract.

>>46723232
That's still retarded though
Half of tempus are practically worthless - they should've just hired the 4 or 5 of the best of them
But this is the same corp that thought flayon was worth something - there's no helping them as long as they refuse to fire their ESL recruitment team

This makes me want to waste my money to SC "thanks for ztreaming goomba"
Now, if only she'd actually ztream so I could do it....

>>46732129
she's doing a memberzhip ztream right now

>>46729011
I get what you're saying but you better hope she never reads this if you want that to be the case

>thinking he is entitled to streams

>>46732526
*ztreams

Ok, banning the word "stream"? She's obviously not ok, this isn't laziness my earlier rrat was right. She has to be having serious mental health issues at this point, nothing else makes sense.

The sad part is that I bet 99.9% of fans would be super supportive and fine with her taking the time off IF SHE JUST TOLD US WHAT THE FUCK WAS GOING ON!

Right now we're just left in the dark and she just looks like a manipulative bitch who hates her job and only comes back to take money from her fans. I really don't think she's that kind of person, but it's pretty fucking hard to defend you Gura when you give us ZERO COMMUNICATION WHATSOEVER

>>46732873
>IF SHE JUST TOLD US WHAT THE FUCK WAS GOING ON!
obviously she would rather look like a fucking psycho than say a single thing to set expectations.

>>46732873
>mental illness
>clearly communicating what is going on to the people around you, much less a crowd of hundreds of thousands of internet strangers without wanting to kill yourself from the pure shame of admitting to being a complete wreck
fucking pick one.

>>46733175
Destigmatize that shit. I'm clinically depressed, I've been suuicidal and hospitlized before. I'm in a much better place now with a stable career but only after I actually accepted and agknowldged my problems and actively worked towards solutions for them

>>46733362
no, I fully agree it should be destigmatised. but the fact remains that there IS a stigma, and even if there wasn't, shame from mental illness is far from rational. accepting your problems and admitting that they exist is something that comes after progress and working on yourself, probably coupled with meds and therapy. for all we know she's still at the very beginning of that process.

>>46733362
Something I've noticed is people with actual mental issues seem way more reluctant to go public about it. Lots of people use mental health as an excuse for not streaming, but the ones who are most likely to actually have depression/ADD/whatever avoid saying it

>>46732129
"streams" (plural) isn't banned - only "stream" and "streaming" are banned

>>46733677
Ok, counter point: That's really stupid

>>46732526
You aren't allowed to say S***** around gura anymore faggot. Check your privilege.

>>46733935
Believe what you want, but I'm just saying what I've noticed.

>>46711567
kind of based.

>>46734304
no, you're right. it's stupid that they do that was what I meant

>>46733677
it's shame. you don't want to admit you're a wreck, especially because the things you can't do seem so simple, and everyone else around you can do them just fine. it takes a lot to admit that you have problems to anyone else at all, because you're making yourself extremely vulnerable with no guarantee that they'll be sympathetic and not go "just be happy lol" or "I've been sad too, but I still did my shit!" or some other fuckin bullshit that people who've never been mentally ill like to spew.
now imagine trying to admit that to a crowd of thousands (or hundreds of thousands) of people, some of whom are antis and definitely hate you and will use it to relentlessly shit on you. I cannot fucking imagine what that is like.
meanwhile people who use it as an excuse without being mentally ill have no such shame, it's just an excuse for them after all.
t. adhd and depressed
>>46733935
yes it is, anon. there's 0 rationality in mental illness. that's what makes it mental illness. hell, even if you know what's rational, it doesn't make it any easier to do. of course it's stupid, the brain isn't working right, what do you expect?

>>46733677
>but the ones who are most likely to actually have depression/ADD/whatever avoid saying it
People who actually suffer just live with it, people who want attention will use it to their profit.

damn its a shame yall dont watch streams cause Gura had a really fun time today

>>46734396
i'm not sure if you're up to speed on what people are requesting from her. they aren't asking so much WHY she isn't streaming. they are asking her WHETHER she will be streaming regularly and she has not addressed it for several months.

>>46734396
>you see, gura is the real victim, she's depressed and has autism and ADHD
>that's why we need to give her money
The actual person with problems is you.

Oh nyo le blue gremlin alcoholic mode is back. Random stream every 4 months and YT shorts from here on out

All you guys shitposting while Gura is just having a fantastic stream.

>>46734472
if you think about it a little, you'll see (and I bet Gura sees) that once she says that, there'll be a never-ending flood of people asking why she isn't streaming regularly. mentally, she's avoiding answering the question because it's easier to leave it vague and have people guessing than open the floodgates to people hounding her about why she can't stream more.

>>46734460
>people who want attention will use it to their profit
Not just attention
"Mental health problems" is now the go-to reason for anyone not to stream, even when the person is obviously healthy and the real reason is some dumb shit. I hate that anyone is allowed this excuse because it just trivializes the reality of mental illness but it's a necessary evil.

>>46734658
she at least has a couple of "back to normal" and "come back strong"s to retract. and she says nothing. her communication is severely defective.

>>46734541
I'm not saying that you need to give her money you clown. You don't owe her anything. Cancel your memberships, don't send supas and don't watch for all I care. But what's the fucking point of relentlessly shitting on her? Just drop her if you want.

>>46734776
again, of course her communication is defective if she's mentally unwell. to be clear, I'm not making excuses for her. no one is obligated to keep their memberships and keep supporting her despite a lack of communication. I'm just explaining what might be going through her head.

>>46734472
NTA but he gets it. She can't say whether she'll be streaming reguarly because to say she won't be is to admit she has a problem (but to say she will would be a lie). Right now she is doing everything she can to avoid the problem, hence why she banned the word "stream", she doesn't want to even think about it.

>>46734541
He never even implied that she should be getting more money to help her. It's not a justification, it's an explanation.

>>46735113
it's long past time for management to take her accounts away and just announce something for her. but they won't do that, because cover is in the middle of an IPO fraud scheme.