/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>Mikeneko
Twitter: https://twitter.com/95rn16
Fanbox: https://mikenekoko.fanbox.cc/
Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC54JqsuIbMw_d1Ieb4hjKoQ
Twitcasting: https://twitcasting.tv/95rn16
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mikeneko.x/
Tiktok: https://www.tiktok.com/@minyan84
Nekoko Store: https://nekoko.shop/
Booth: https://mikenekoko.booth.pm/
【Original Song】drop/みけねこ: https://youtu.be/sHl2-rH6GnU

>Nazuna Amemiya
Profile: https://www.vshojo.com/talent/nazuna
Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC5gs8EbpwbfQvrhizJx60TA
Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/amemiyanazuna
Twitter: https://twitter.com/AmemiyaNazuna
Shop: https://store.vshojo.com/collections/nazuna

Give me back Rushia or at least 100% Mikeneko or give me death
No more Nazuna, no more vshojo, please

I miss her

Love is love

>>46501391
Why do you hate her?

>>46501460
She doesn't belong there
It's like taking a beautiful rose and planting it in the middle of a swamp

>>46501460
Nazuna keeps breaking her promises
Then she loses fans
Then she gets upset at losing fans
Then she makes promises
Repeat

I'm hurt, my beautiful wife, but I still love you. I love you more than anything. I just want things to be right again.

>>46501495
She fits in well though?

She's not got many viewers
She's a bitch
She's looking to collab with men

Antis, as usual, can fuck off and die.

Rushia is dead and never coming back, now go away antis

>>46501391
So I guess you don't want this picture of your wife with huge boinboin? Don't click on it now.

>>46501844
I'm so thirsty... I want milk...

>>46501844
Milk please

I miss her

>>46503840
We all do...

>>46501636
Fortunately, it's not a lifelong affliction for her if she actually accepts the cure

Bring Rushia back

>>46501823
Incorrect and also fuck (You)なのです

https://youtube.com/shorts/sfCSh-JLx1A

remember that time she got horny and retweeted an image of rushia being fucked

I miss her

i can save her womb

I miss this girl

>>46504691
I wish I could fuck this woman without murdering her

This is the girl I miss

I want Rushia back

I don't want Nazuna
I want Rushia

I just want all of her

I don't want Nazuna

I don't miss the green-haired anime girl.
I miss the feelings of love that the green-haired anime girl felt for us.
Why can't you love us again?
Why are we always getting punished by you?

>>46507946
Move on. She's old. Save money and buy land.

Remember that even in this yawning depressive chasm, the emotions behind her words when she told us that we are her actual boyfriend and that it isn't RP we're her real feelings.
That was a week ago.
Wife, what the fuck?

>>46508132
Does she?
Last time someone tried to tell her that she had hurt them, her response was to hurt as many gachikoi as possible by saying cruel things that she KNOWS hurts her gachikoi.

>>46501101
>Trans kill Pikamee
>Now (korean and chink) feminist and kson try to kill your wife
>Both shit start in US

Im sorry for you lost nekos

>>46508123
>Move on
Breaking promises is for people that aren't me
>Save money
I have enough
>Buy land
At this time, besides feeling her love again, I literally want nothing more than a dramatic and suitability climactic suicide
Fuck your land I'll set your land on fucking fire

>>46508352
The anti-unicorns changed my mind. Vtubers are nothing like wifes. They ARE prostitutes. It makes perfect sense, if a prostitute doesn't do what you want you look for millions of other ones.

>>46508632
Shut the fuck up.

>>46508678
Explaining streamers as girlfriends is confusing, you have to warp reality to fit the delusion. Calling them prostitutes is no delusion. It fits our material reality perfectly.

Fuck off.

>>46508632
>the anti-unicorns changed my mind
You are a literal tourist

Loving streamers offends women because only few men close to them have that right.
However treating them as a prostitutes to be quickly discarded is ok. If one of them doesn't please you there are millions of younger and higher quality girls entering this industry every day.

>>46509263
Are we really in the right? I mean most of the anti-unicorn on Twitter are old Rushia gachikoi from back in the day telling us to leave this old hag alone. Are we really correct and the OG fans wrong?

>>46509556
The same people who immediately un-oshi'd her and ran away after having a very public and embarrassing tantrum because she dared to disagree with them despite their constant complaining about unicorns doing just that? Those OG fans?

>>46509556
Yes
We're correct. They're wrong
And they're not "OG". Fucking Sakana has only been around since September 2021 or something

>>46508193
The thing is that she may (most of the times) respect our feelings and not do it to not make us sad/jealous.
But she herself deep down doesn't think that collabing with dudes is incompatible with being nekofamis' girlfriend.
For her it isn't a fervent belief like let's say Kanata, but an artificial barrier she puts on to keep up the unicorn's side happy and show love and compromise.
It's kinda like an alcoholic dude in a relationship agreeing to stop drinking forever because his gf begged him to do it, not because of having a self-conviction about it.
Let's say he may respects this for a long time and not look for it, but maybe one day he gets invited to some part or event, he sees a lot of people having fun while drinking and in a moment of weakness he gets carried away and drinks again.
In the end, it's only a drink, right? He isn't really planning to start binge drinking anyways.
Nazuna is the same: every time she does it, except the time she was manic, it's because she sees a group of people (that includes some of her friends) having fun or starts being an autist about Minecraft or whatever.
When her guard is down, the thought of this hurting some fans doesn't even enter her head and any criticism is just an annoyance over something she didn't put any intention into.

>>46509639
>who immediately un-oshi'd her and ran away
This wraps back into my theory that streamers are prostitutes not wifes. That's how you treat a prostitute.

Unfortunately for her and her Japanese fans, her Unicorns are far more tenacious than anyone could expect
They'll literally hold on until she gives them the answer they want to hear

>>46509738 (me)
What will happen from now depends on what the alcoholic person' friends says about it and encourages him to do.
If a sizable amount tells him "how much he fun he was while drinking", "he should totally go take a drink every now and then to spice things up", "small doses of drinking is compatible with a healthier lifestyle for you" and "don't listen to [these other people of the group] trying to keep you sober. They're trying to ruin you and isolate you. We don't mind you drinking every now and then. We trust you to not start binge drinking alone" he may change his opinion around it.

>>46509927
Ive already given up
Her prime days are gone. She isn't "coming back" only getting older.

>>46510133
In that case, the friends who tell him to never do it again and who only care about his best interests are the ones who care most about that person
But will the other people, including that person, see this obvious truth?

Lmao she isn't your wife. Take meds you hopeless delusional schizos

>>46510140
Sure you have
Except nobody here has ever talked about her age retard

Millions of younger high quality girls selling their bodies for pennies. Why even support this granny

Lmao she is your wife never take meds

She is the literal embodiement of permanent romantic non-physical love and affection
And we will bring her back home

>>46510716
I have hag fetish and i'm mentally ill

>I don't care if you're a unicorn or not, you will never be her real husband!

>I AM Mike's real husband, as long as that is her wish!

yeah me

>>46510999
Reference older than the gen alpha browsing this board.

>>46510999
>>46511031
Still the only movie she has done a watchalong of

>>46511283
Dis Bitch is fucking old

[Pushes up glasses] looks like I've got some work to do

Just translate the Japanese, Japanese translator.

I have literally talked to him before and he's a cool guy but who he is has literally 0 to do with it.

>>46509556
>OG
I'm pretty sure I'm in the top 10 oldest fans left.

We interrupt this existential crisis to bring you panties. You're welcome.

I like panties

Mikeneko is like a Mickey (Tokyo revengers) she has darkness impulse and want to hurt everyone

>>46516736
That's fantastic because I want to hurt her too

I hate Nazuna. I never thought she would ever push me this far but I hate everything Nazuna stands for. I love Rushia and Mikeneko, but I can't stand Nazuna. I hate Vshojo too

I don't know how you can go through being continually betrayed and come out of it lying more easily instead of less.

>>46519115
?

>>46519352
her

I love her. I'm not ok, but I love her.

mikeneko HATE

if she will allow me, mikeneko LOVE

I'm tired of loving this menhera

no, mikeneko HATE

I still love her

I love her more than you hate her.

>>46523846
I'm done with this old granny

>>46524801
You were never involved with her, baiting anti.

>>46524819
It's liberating being able to dump her.

Then be liberated and fuck off.

>>46525137
No I'm gonna anti because a fan turned anti is the thing that hurts her the most.

>>46525319
Good thing you were never a fan then, tourist.

>>46525319
Surely you won't mind posting your name then considering you don't care anymore

>>46525361
Suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuure thing

I love mikeneko and I cannot consciously change that

>>46525540
True and based.

I NEED
TO GET MILK
I NEED MILK FOR MY CEREAL
THERE IS NO MILK IN MY FOOKING FRIDGE
SO I GET PISSED

RRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOAAAAAWWWWWWWWRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
GRWARWARRRAAAOROROOWOWOWORORRRRRR

Schizo thread

>>46528586

Nazuna meant this for me.

>>46529473
yeah me

She seems still a bit mad, doesn't she?

>>46529382
wtf, don't hurt my friend tasogare >:(

>>46529593
Did the one thing she specifically knows would piss her autists off. But she is the one mad. You go girl.

I wish Nazuna would show us her feet like this!

>>46530208
Damn, not only that, but I wish I could cum inside of KANATA

>>46529593
Said she wants to play RE, so no. Seems fine to me.

>>46530208
If i had the money, i would absolutely comission him for one of this, he's the institution on this matter.
Don't know which of the two and in which outfit though.

>>46530208
I prefer when she shows pantsu.

>>46530736
Don't tell me this is just a joke/pun and doesn't have an obvious second meaning
>>46529473
Now you'll tell me the collabing tweet is just a genuine and pure wish she has

>>46530907
playing re like a fiddle

I don't accept any cope saying that she still isn't pissed at us for no reason
Nazuna should graduate

>>46534171
そうか

>>46534513
うん

Nazuna seems to really hate her overseas gachikoi now

>>46536031
Its okay is only a temporary you can't get real angry with a nobody faceless

I didn't mind the interaction with Taishi that much but the tantrum she is throwing is breaking the camel's back.

>>46536493
The worst part of that interaction was she ignored her chat asking her not to

>>46530907
>Now you'll tell me the collabing tweet is just a genuine and pure wish she has
Yes. She was genuine and is always pure.

I think a lot of the issues we have is due to a lack of direct communication.
The only way we have to actually communicate with her is through some random tweets in bad japanese when the situation reaches a critical level and she could take it wrongly.
But any other recommendations or criticism or suggestions to her problems never get there, she even ignore overseas game recommendations.
And whenever she wants to actually talk face-to-face, for saying it in some way, instead of vaguely suggesting things in posts in different platforms
it's in some random twitcast 3 weeks after it happens, which probably starts at like 4 am EST, after 1,5 hours of random chit-chat topics so you think this isn't a serious one and could skip it, and most importantly; in Japanese to her japanese fandom.
It's things about us, that she wants to ask us or complain about to us mediated exclusively through her japanese fanbase that aren't a neutral intermediary at all, if they even understand about the situation.
Yes, there are a few that can speak in Japanese but i listen to a lot of the twitcast the number of us (i unfortunately can't be included) doing that is probably like 3-4 total.
There are more random antis using the anonymous comment option than them.
But how can you expect to have good communication when one of the sides can't even express their position?

>>46536493
I mean, she kind of has a reason to be irked. Taishi is literally a coworker and someone she has to interact with anyway, and she can't even type a message to him in Minecraft without people losing their shit? There's gachikoi and then there's whatever the fuck this is.

>>46536902
He's also a streamer
People didn't even get mad when she said hello
But she initiated further contact for no reason which broke her promise again

>>46536867
first time having a girlfriend? Change her japanese fandom with female friends and you have the classic scenario of disfuncional partnership

>>46536031
After reading this thread I would too.
23 IPs mostly acting like mewling children. Every misstep a personal attack meant to wound you. Every word misplaced a slight against your non-existent honor.
Not a single word constructive in the whole mess. Just tantrums and the beating of tiny fists on the floor.

>>46536902
My issue is that people weren't "losing their shit". Did you take a look at their tweets? It was all just "I don't like such interactions", "please don't make such promises when you are going to break them anyway", "I'm going to sleep", "I'm disappointed". There weren't even that many anyway. She turned this into something it wasn't and lashing out and punishing everyone for it again. "We've been through so much so this is nothing". Wrong, I can only deal with something like that so many times and I'm close to my limit.

>>46537173
Hey
Just like you

>>46537102
Yeah, but you can actually do the "we have to talk" with your girlfriend and eventually get some of the things you want to say out.
This is a luxury we don't have.
Our case is more like 80% of the important things we want to say to her can only reach her through the (maybe malicious) interpretation of whatever her female friends heard or think we have said.
Best case scenario it's like a game of broken telephone.

>>46537495
More apt description of it is a game of Chinese whispers.

>>46537034
How many times do you think she talks to Taishi on a weekly basis. Seriously. She's one of her translators and a friend of Kson.

>>46537283
Right, and people in this very thread were also talking about DMing her. So, the public statements are all reasonable looking, albeit retarded in their own way, but who says she wasn't inundated with other shit behind the scenes. It has happened before. Some fucks in here have stated to have done so in the past.

>>46537582
Yes. I thought about using that name but wikipedia said in american and canadian english they use "telephone" or "broken telephone"

>>46537586
>first post
Why does she have to interact on stream
>second post
Lol no, no one has DMd her, otherwise she'd have either already mentioned it or posted it.

>>46537586
Probably not at all
She said she doesn't talk to Koheita at all
So you think she talks to her other TLs
Doesn't change the fact fans asked her not to in chat and she deliberately ignored them again and has spent two days gaslighting us into believing we're wrong for hoping she'd keep her promises

>>46537586
She posted the circle tweets someone did. They weren't even bad and merely clarified that that person was okay with small-talk and stuff like that, and would continue to support her. If she chose to post that then she clearly didn't receive any worse.

>>46537831
Yeah, she doesn't really have the "I've been harrased" reasoning on her side this time...
That's why it felts more of a tantrum this time.

>>46538040
She still hasn't deleted or changed some of the things that she did just to hurt us either

>>46537817
>Why does she have to interact on stream
He's translating for her in real time, the only thing dumb about it is she typed it in Minecraft chat instead of just saying it out loud. It's not any different than her asking one of her mods to do a poll or whatever. Does this same anxiety stretch to her talking to loutlot or Gunrun, her bosses? I just don't understand your expectations. They border upon unreasonable.

>>46537821
>Probably not at all
You cannot be serious. Not even a "hey I'm planning on going live at 5pm, so that's when you're to be there to translate". Not at all? No words? Fascinating.

>>46537831
And you don't see what could make her irritated about someone who says "I don't mind small talk" with males, even on stream, but then still felt the need to express his displeasure when she did exactly that? It would irritate the fuck out of me if you folks were acting bipolar like that.

>>46538180
Are you retarded?
Saying "hello" is fine. Nobody complained about that
It's when she went over to see what he was doing that people were asking her not to and she ignored them
She broke her promise again. Stop defending this

>>46538180
Small acclaration. He is one of the translators but he barely translates her. Can't even remember last time he did but a few months ago at least.

>>46538180
Did you watch the stream at all? People weren't upset at her doing small-talk. They were upset that she 2 hours into the stream suddenly started saying "Wonder how Taishi is doing. Going check it out!" and proceeded to interacet beyond small-talk with him. She had promised not to do exactly that. In any of her incarnations and several times, as recently as a day before that stream. All that considered, the responses from fans were extremely mild.

>>46538330
What's wrong with seeing what another person playing Minecraft was doing or did? It's kind of part of the game to check out the cool things other people have built. Also, I'll defend this until I die, so if you don't like it, stop responding. Or better yet, get over it.

>>46538514
Okay, as long as you realize communication is gonna happen and it is part of business and not at all a threat to anything, that's fine. She has other translators (male) she does use and moderation staff and other people. Business partners / coworkers / whatever should not be something people get upset about.

>>46538569
From start to when I went to bed I still have a picture of her misspelling "cooking" to great hilarity, was disappointed with her when she couldn't buy eggs, and whatnot. I saw the interaction and thought absolutely nothing of it. People talking isn't a threat to me.

Nazuna should just graduate and normalfags should kill themselves

>>46538899
The issue is Taishi is male

>>46539026
He's also gay as the hills.

>>46539256
She broke her promise
That's the end of this discussion
If you don't care about people breaking promises, that's on you
Some people here have standards. And her horrible handling of everything afterwards pissed off far more people than the stream, so you're operating from a fundamental position of dishonesty anyways

>>46538899
It's not about whether or not it's a "threat" to (you).
Do you have any idea how often and frequent she made such promises and expressed disdain for similar situations?
It's about trusting her words and believing in her feelings.
Actions speak louder than words, and right now they are screaming louder than ever before that her promises are empty and meaningless and her words are shallow and cannot be trusted.

>>46539352
>>46539415
I'm not sure I believe you, to be honest. I do not believe you are being truthful about why this bothers you. "Broke promise", but why did she have to make those promises in the first place? The core issue here is not her breaking promises, and you know it.

>>46540367
That's the whole point
She didn't have to make any promises. She CHOSE to and asked us to trust her. She begged us to trust her last March. And every time she breaks them, she makes them again. Nobody is forcing her

>>46540415
"CHOSE" to why. Again, you are not getting to the heart of the matter.

I wouldn't mind if she collabs with males. You faggots are acting like a bunch of retards

>>46540367
>>46540516
Go ahead, tell us the root of it. It sure as fuck weren't her fans' that forced her to say anything.
She chose to do that on her own accord and beliefs. Nobody held her hostage or gaslighted her into anything. She doubled down on that multiple times in the recent weeks, which upset many regulars and caused her a lot of stress and financial losses, much more than if she had done the opposite.

>>46540858
It would kill you to take any blame for this wouldn't it?

>>46541195
She made her initial promises when she was Rushia. Your argument is retarded

>>46540367
>The core issue here is not her breaking promises, and you know it.
Yes it fucking is though, you absolute mongoloid. Nobody is coercing her to be this way unless your definitions are warped beyond recognition

>>46541358
>unless your definitions are warped beyond recognition
Irony.

>>46540517
Kill yourself anti

>>46541458
You aren't even a Fandead, let alone remember what Rushia said.

I wouldn't mind if she had sex with her boyfriend. You faggots are acting like a bunch of retards

>>46541458
>Rushia was coerced into promising no male collabs
>That expectation literally did not even exist when she debuted

I DON'T GIVE A SHIT THAT SHE TALKED TO TAISHI, I'M CONFIDENT ENOUGH IN OUR RELATIONSHIP TO NOT SCREAM LIKE A MONKEY AT EVERY LITTLE FUCKING THING. SHE TALKED TO TAISHI, SO WHAT, HE'S NOT HER HUSBAND, I AM, AND OUR LOVE IS DEEP ENOUGH THAT I KNOW SHE WILL BE FAITHFUL.

>>46541195
Blame for what?
Trusting her words when she asked us to trust her?
Believing in her feelings when she said that they are her real feelings and not just rp?
Supporting her and explaining her side to outsiders when she was crying and begged us to help her?

You are not understanding the point.

I am upset with her because her actions right now resemble the person the person the antis had made her out to be.
The person she said she wasn't and that she hadn't been in the previous years.

>>46541763
Are you the same dude who said that he is also fine with watching her flirt with other guys on stream?
Also, if you don't care that she broke a promise she made to us dozens of times, all it means is that you think she's a liar and are fine with that. Except that liars don't pick and choose like that.

I DON'T GIVE A SHIT THAT SHE HAS A BOYFRIEND, I'M CONFIDENT ENOUGH IN OUR RELATIONSHIP TO NOT SCREAM LIKE A MONKEY AT EVERY TIME THEY FUCK. SHE TALKED TO HER BOYFRIEND, SO WHAT, HE'S NOT HER HUSBAND, I AM, AND OUR LOVE IS DEEP ENOUGH THAT I KNOW SHE WILL BE FAITHFUL.

>>46541886
No, I am not that guy. I do not want wife to flirt with other guys on stream. I have the confidence in our relationship to know that she wouldn't do that, and simply talking to someone isn't flirting.

Surely she will play the game today since she tweet that she wanted to play it, right?

>>46544252
I don't think so, if she wanted it today she would have already started it.

>>46544252
Better if she didn't stream if she's still in a mood

>>46538180
The circle tweet that she reposted wasn't even critical. It was fully apologetic of the situation and asked her to not leave. She messed up redacting the name and the person who made them is now being harassed for what was essentially an apology and reassurance. There was no reason to lash out like she did.

Calmed down and thought everything over. She is not manic or hurt. This is just exemplary gaslighting no matter how you look at it.

I wouldn't go that far, that's a serious accusation.
She isn't denying or trying to make you think that nothing happened.
She's just being petty and a contrarian over being called out on something she didn't think through and is pulling a bit of emotional punishment she sees fit with all the provoking tweets and changes.
That's all there is to it.

>>46546560
I'm assuming she's also trying to bait a big reaction but from what I can see, nobody has run wild
A few passive aggressive comments here and there, people not posting as much, but nothing for her to really lash out at

>>46546560
>She's just being petty and a contrarian over being called out on something she didn't think through and is pulling a bit of emotional punishment she sees fit with all the provoking tweets and changes.
>not gaslighting

>>46547068
Anon, gaslighting has an specific definition, look it up.

>>46547068
>Gaslighting is a form of psychological abuse in which a person or group causes someone to question their own sanity, memories, or perception of reality.
She's not saying that nothing happened. She's just lashing out at criticism

>>46547194
>>46547135
>question their own sanity, memories, or perception of reality
She is doing this. Shifting the blame on fans and threatening them = emotionally blackmailing us to accept a false reality in which she didn't do anything wrong and we are the ones at fault for daring to feel upset when she breaks her promises
She will not back down. She will not admit that her behaviour was inappropriate. She will not apologize.

>>46538180
>He's translating for her in real time
He wasn't translating that stream but ogey.

>>46548050
That argument's stupid anyway, it's his job to translate, even if she treats him like shit and ignores him all the time he'd still have to do it

>>46548113
Pretty sure Vee is an anti, but still does, and does it decently, because he gets paid to do it.

Yesterday Nazuna posted a tweet saying she wanted to collab and kson has scheduled a collab with her friends for Thursday, so Nazuna will be collab with males again

We'll see. Kson collabs very often.

She won't. I trust her that much. And besides, there's nothing for her to gain and everything to lose from pulling a stunt like that.

>>46548811
Well we will just have to see how petty she'll be and how retarded she'll act in the coming days.

>>46548841
Does knowing she's being petty make it any better?

My wife is a wonderful woman who cannot do wrong. You're all schizos.

>>46549186
Who is your wife?
My 'wife' is currently looking for a boyfriend.

>>46549253
(Obligatory "Yeah me")

>>46549253
>looking

Well, i thought it was going to be worse before i translated but still, who the fuck is sending her tarot predictions to her by DMs?
Is this a new kind of schizo?

>>46549437
You should look at that guy's twitter, it's a riot

>>46549437
He's an anticorn and, in a vastly understated way, a mega schizo.

>>46549437
I've seen the guy during Twitcast a few times. Usually asks for translation.

>>46549511
Being an overseas person (i think) he will still get conflated with us.
Also, she doesn't talk a lot about it but Mike is kinda the type of person to take this kind of spiritist bullshit somewhat seriously so this is going to scare her a bit.

>>46549462
Never mind, he pussied out
He's been writing dozens upon dozens of chuuni tweets for basically ages now
Things like "You won't know who I really am.

And you can't stop me.

I am a dagger hidden in the shadow, and your destruction.

I'll drag you down, feed the dogs.

I'll give it back to you the pain that she and we suffered."
Very vocal anticorn, very schizo, also an EOP

>>46549867
Why does Mori attract the most chuuni individuals?

What went wrong

the tower...

Lmao which one of you schizos sent her DM?

>>46550323
That was WinterS, not one of us and an anticorn.

>>46550323
schizo yes, from here no.

>>46550323
it wasn't from here
that guy is a massive anti unicorn, a massive chuuni faggot, a massive autist and a massive schizo
his twitter account was full of posts like >>46549867
sadly it seems he deleted his account in shame

Can someone translate well her last tweet? I don't know if DeepL got it right.

>>46550323
Read up. It seems to be a lone wolf.

WinterS is some Korean schizo
He is on the Korean boards and once he attacked her for not being mean enough in his opinion. He is an actual psycho

>>46550323
"I don't know what she expects, but she shouldn't expect to keep the job and build real relationships with her fans at the same time.

They're consumers, she's a service seller.

Conclusion, end."
- One of his tweets
He's an anticorn who follows the "Viewers are just customers" rhetoric

If she's saying what i think she's saying i think this is a very bad move.
Whoever (antis and other schizos) are going go talk badly about her in just another thread here or other similar place.
This thread is, in fact, the only one where she can see actual fans of her supporting her and actually see their point of view and she could solve many many of the issues that arise from time to time if she bothered reading calmly (and ignoring all the antis and trolls from other places).
We also, by rule, are extremely secretive about what happens in member posts, private tweets and member twitcasts.

She's losing it

Mori is so fucking stupid.

Mikechan, if you're reading this.
Please try to take a break, go do something else, take a breather and then come back more badly.
Your stress is getting the worse out of you and you're massively overreacting over some things without really thinking them through.
Some people here were a bit annoyed about recent events but not to a big degree nor this time reacted that badly.
That dude that sent you the tarot card thing is not even in our overseas fandom group.
And the other comment you were mentioning wasn't even from here, maybe you got it from 5ch antis?
Don't make this worse for you please.

Mikechan, if you're reading this.
Please try to take a break, go do something else, take a breather and then come back more calmly.
Your stress is getting the worse out of you and you're massively overreacting over some things without really thinking them through.
Some people here were a bit annoyed about recent events but not to a big degree nor this time reacted that badly.
That dude that sent you the tarot card thing is not even in our overseas fandom group.
And the other comment you were mentioning wasn't even from here, maybe you got it from 5ch antis?
Don't make this worse for you please.

She said what promise. You guys go and tell her

>>46552163
in the state she's in? you could tell her the sky is blue and she'd yell at you

>>46552163
Fuck off, you know that shit is a fucking anti account
Stop trying to make everything about unicorns, Winters was a very outspoken anticorn and you know that damn well
This is about retards constantly DMing her which, as she said herself, comes from everyone

>>46550990
>This thread is, in fact, the only one where she can see actual fans of her supporting her
You're delusional. You guys are the reason why she's so stressed out. Every time she tries to move on with her life, you all never fail to bring her down and make her question her decisions.

Congrats guys you did it again

>>46554180
>>46554211
Winters isn't from here though

oh hey, here comes the /vsj/ raid

>>46554180
>>46554211
WinterS isn't from here btw, he's a Korean anticorn and that QRT she did was an anti throwaway account. Not everything is our fault.

Well she seems to have calmed down for now anyway
Back to loving this silly woman, I suppose

she only stream twice per week?
is that her quota as nazuna?

>>46554180
She doesn't want to move on
She wants to be like Rushia and she wants to be out wife
Only antis want to change that

>>46554180
Two out of the past 3 times where anticorns but okay.
>Every time she tries to move on with her life, you all never fail to bring her down and make her question her decisions
Pretty sure that's exactly what the anticorns where doing 2 weeks ago, pretty sure none of them are from here.

>>46557235
I get that but still doesn't excuse this thread and last thread to go into meltdown

>>46557322
Except for the fact that she wasn't trying to move on from anything, she genuinely thought that was okay because Taishi was staff and her TL. Your entire point makes no sense because the initial incidence wasn't her trying to move on or any of that bullshit, it was her genuinely not thinking things through and now she's lashing out.

>>46557508
As a casual viewer, this always leaves me to question, what exactly you want from her in terms of content?

If according to you, it's kinda risky to play with kson friends (Ark server, Minecraft server, collabs) or VShojo (Minecraft server)?
Also most other Japanese VTubers would also be taboo, because it's pretty common to have mixed gender collabs, outside of the idol-corpo world. Talking about people like Pompoko&Peanuts, Tomari Mari, VOMS, etc.

Content-wise it doesn't leave her with much. What exactly is your vision for how things should go for her as a VTuber?

Or is the answer simply:
"GFE is enough for me. I don't care about these things that you mentioned (persistent multiplayer games, big collabs/events, etc.)"

>>46560177
If you're disingenuous enough to genuinely think that men are somehow inescapable in a woman-dominated market like vtubing, then yeah I guess that would leave her with not very much

>>46560264
Wouldn't say that. But the circles in her level outside of the typical corpos namely Hololive, Nijisanji, Idol-Club (do they even exist?), are pretty mixed gender, when it comes to bigger collabs.

If she was ok with 2 Views, it would be a different story indeed. Generally though, the question
> What exactly is your vision for how things should go for her as a VTuber?
is what I'm interested in.

>>46560529
Basically exactly what she has been doing already, just if and when she wants to do a collab, keep it female only. That's the only thing I'm asking for really.

>>46560529
NTA but she wasn't ever a frequent collaber in the first place. It is absolutely possible for her to make the minimal effort needed to avoid guys.
Hell, the thing with Taishi was something she instigated; if not for that, it would have been fine

>>46560529
The Tweet she made about doing an idol group with a few VTubers to sing and play box games together is literally the ideal
Her own group of girls who support her and play games together, but she still sends most of her time with us and we're the most important thing to her

>>46561667
She really should try that tweet again as Nazuna if she wants more people to play with there.
>Hey, any female Minecraft autists wanna play with me?
worth a try honestly

>>46562062
Honestly if she does this she'll probably get a bunch of people saying yes
It just she has to understand they'll all be 2viwes

I want her to be Rushia. She wants to be Rushia. The only issue is the IQ of every party involved, otherwise we would have 0 issues.

>>46562062
Nazuna being part of VShojo pretty much destroys any chance for the "idol" group working
I know you'll say stuff like
>but the other girls did concerts/lives
and stuff, but it really isn't the same. The brand is essentially hostile to what she wants.

>>46564555
I wasn't really talking about an idol group, just a group of girls to play Minecraft and other games with, I know an idol group isn't really a VShojo thing

>>46564460
This unironically, if all of us had above room temp IQ's there'd be no problem.

I'd play minecraft with you.
If you play rocket league with me

Also, don't take this the wrong way...
But, that weird Tarot korean? That's what happens when you do "GFE" (Girlfriend Experience), your chat becomes unhinged schizos.

Sup schizochan, that Korean guy is an anticorn but ogey.

>>46565139
>schizo
ironic
hypocritic

You do realise mod abuse isn't an argument, right?
She will never love you, she is clearly sick of you fucking schizos
>>46565066
based post

it really makes me think at how she seems to enjoy my schizo shit but hate others kinda romantic ngl, maybe its because we're the same type of yandere schizo...

>>46538972
we should all kill ourselves

How many of you apes still watch her without speaking any japanese? To those that are like that, just one question, are you fucking retarded or something? Do you get entertained by a key chain dangling in front of your face?
>Weeeeeeee pretty picture on screen weeeeeeeeeee!!!

>>46564555
VShojo would be the correct place, though, if she would like to do a hololive style 3D concert. Of course, If she is willing to pay the studio and crew that kson and IronMouse had. But at the moment it's only Iron Mouse and kson who are sort of interested in this kind of stuff.

>>46560813
>>46561475
>>46561667
Thanks, those answers were actually less defensive than I expected. From the sounds of it a lot of frustrastions would probably be resolved once she gets girls to interact with. I don't have high hopes that she makes friends on her own initiative.

>>46566641
>VShojo would be the correct place, though, if she would like to do a hololive style 3D concert.
I don't even think she really wants that, especially with her poor physical condition.
Also, you know how the catalog talks about VShojo? The Japanese talk about VShojo in the exact same way now.
It wasn't always like that, but for the last few months, their opinions on VShojo aren't any different from people here. If I TLed their comments, you'd assume they came from /here/ and not 5ch
VShojo's brand in Japan is actually hostile to her, since she doesn't really care about "talent freedom" and wants to be unicorn friendly

>>46566641
>>46566892 (me)
There's a reason she made all of those idol group Tweets on Mikeneko and not Nazuna

Remember how she used to have all these girls she could hang out with? Back before it was revealed that she was hanging out with fuckboys behind our backs?

>>46566277
I agree

I'd say I'd white knight for nazuna, but she's literally stronger than me and can take care of herself in that regard.
>>46566632
Yes, and when she talks about arrancars out of the blue it makes me pog and go full menhera

DMとかやめてって言ってるのにわざと嫌なDMを送られ続けたり(ほぼ毎日)
嫌がらせや誹謗中傷、どんなことをしても愚痴や悪口を言われて疲れてしまってインターネットから消えたら、ということを考えてました。。
今後も課題なのかな
人を傷つけることが好きな人が多すぎて
好きな物も嫌いになってくのは悲しいね。
リアルだったら笑顔で生きていけるのかな?
など、考えてしまう
最近ノイローゼっぽくなってる


Managed to catch the deleted tweets.

>>46554236
Better than /hlg/ any day of the week.

>>46568114
Delete this you absolute fucking retard
WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU?!?!

>>46568114
Don't post deleted stuff

Now delete your replies too

>>46566892
Why lie? VShojo hasn't done anything to damage her.

>>46568114
Nani...?

Hello, which kson friends do you like? (females)

>>46568721
Pikam-
...

>>46568688
Kek
The actual brand being pushed by them goes against what she wants. VShojo's brand is "talent freedom", but Nazuna doesn't want freedom. She wants to stream for her fans because she loves them, she doesn't want to do her own thing for freedom.

>>46568721
mikeneko and kuroneko

>>46568721
There's this cute girl called Mikeneko that I really love

>>46568721
Either Mikeneko or Nazuna

>>46568890
say no more, mikeneko will do a collab with nazuna soon in minecraft

>>46569726
oh no, they weren't supposed to meet

you fucks got cucked again lmao

>>46568811
You do know her wanting to be an idol and have unicorn fans falls under talent freedom? You know the freedom to do whatever she wants as a streamer.

How is this bitch so bad at delivering basic enjoyable content with no whore shit or unnecessary drama despite going out of her way to insist she's your wife and even DMs fans? The average chuuba is better at delivering what her fans want. Did she read from a script at Hololive or something?

>>46572825
>talent freedom
It falls under talent freedom, but it doesn't necessarily fall under Talent Freedom(TM)
It depends on whether you view a streamer who willingly submits their freedom to their fans as being free. In a sense, they are. In a sense, they aren't. To my knowledge, none of the VShojo girls operate under even a quarter of Nazuna's self imposed restrictions.

I don't think it's going to happen until bump limit but maybe we should just let this thread fall and start with a new one.

>>46576423
I agree

we'll see if people can properly sage I guess

why wait just make a new one right now

>>46577705
Probably not.

>>46573571
Okay, but you're still not demonstrating how VShojo itself harms her. The fact they don't get in the way of that means she's doing exactly what the Talent Freedom motto means. And how does that harm her reputation in Japan?

I swear some of you never shook off your Hololive tribalism bullshit.

Your tarot is the Tokyo Towa

>>46577945
Yeah, it doesn't seem so.
If it doesn't work maybe i will change to spam illustrations until it's over.

if you want to kill this thread so badly just spam pics of wife

>>46578018
Do you not know what the power of a brand is? The company's motto is basically poising itself as being "anti-Hololive"
Nazuna wants to act like a Holo. This is an inherirent contradition. People in Japan who hear about Vshojo are going to watch Nazuna and expect her to be all about "talent freedom". She literally isn't, and has talked negatively about talent freedom on stream before. The fanbase that Vshojo attracts opposes what she wants to do. Even look at how different Ksongumi are to Lollipops and you'll see. Hell, most of the anti Unicorns who are Lollipops also watch Kson, that shouldn't be a surprise.
>they don't get in the way
Besides biased TLs, toning down the GF (there is no E) in her clips, blatantly highligting that one clips where she talks about "interacting with new people" (which a lot of people assumed was code for male collabs). And that's only what we can see. We have no idea what may have gone on behind the scenes, especially during the Totsu incident.

>got a warning for mentioning mafumafu
kek

>>46578280
SPAM PICS OF WIFE!? WHY DIDN'T YOU SAY SO!

Need more pantsu shots.

NazuScopes:
Your tarot for the day is The Star. As The Star follows The Tower card in Tarot, it comes as a welcome reprieve after a period of destruction and turmoil. You have endured many challenges and stripped yourself bare of any limiting beliefs that have previously held you back. You are realizing your core essence, who you are beneath all the layers. No matter what life throws your way, you know that you are always connected to the Divine and pure loving energy. You hold a new sense of self, a new appreciation for the core of your Being.

The Star brings renewed hope and faith, and a sense that you are truly blessed by the Universe. You are entering a peaceful, loving phase in your life, filled with calm energy, mental stability and more in-depth understanding of both yourself and others around you. This is a time of significant personal growth and development as you are now ready to receive the many blessings of the Universe.

If you are a Taurus, expect great luck today.
If you are a Scorpio, stay at home.

I interrupt this image dump to announce that...
I love my wife!

>>46579253
>>46579346
>>46579417
>>46579463
>>46579513
>>46579558
>>46579660
Anon, please... if you want to post Towa you can go in here >>46562741
I'm sure they will love it.

>>46579737
kill yourself

>>46579755
The thing is that if i went to the towa thread and starting posting barely related Mikeneko pics, they would probably get mad at me considering they haven't been in contact for way over a year, you know.
We're pretty lenient in comparison.

Towa is thread culture

>>46580042
I want one

>>46536902
No bs, it honestly goes back to nijiEN when they got taken over by luxium. The whole branch turned into one big roosterteeth podcast and sisters lost their shit trying to defend it. When tempus came along there was this huge self righteous narrative of unicorn falseflagging to "give the holobronies their comeuppance" or w/e.
And like all forced memes, underage 3rdies latched onto it and furiously ran it into the ground obnoxiously as possible. They spread it to every small corpo and indie spamming threads with "WHOREKEKWHORE" whenever a chuba walks into the same zip code with a dude. It's basically the /vt/ equivalent of calling everything goyslop.

>>46580052
green girlは?

>>46580525
I know you folks in here are expats from Hololive but you could at least learn the minimum about her new org. That's Haruka Karibu.

Now, I'm sure, being a Hololive expat, I don't have to explain who the top girl is because you already know all about her, right?

>>46580775
what

>>46580800
Nothing, just being salty. I'll go back to silently posting pics of wife.

>>46580775
They're just retarded, she already collabed with Haruka before

I know who haruka is

>>46572825
>thinks Talent Freedom™ means talent freedom
zozzle

I forgive her 100%

>>46581276
>no chino

she is the most important person in the world to me and I can't stand fighting with her

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she'd never love me

I'm going to be the one making the next thread, don't you fucking try to overtake me this time.

>>46584618
go for it

I love her more than anything, even if she's hurting me, wife love

Tits before thread archives.

the towa thing is a meme but milk isn't
i actually really love milk