/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>46416740
fishman is seething in his basement, they even poached phase short editors

Posts like this one made me realize that numberfags really are worthless trannies who horserace with vtubers because they're either too poor or too pussy to do it with actual stocks or stakes

>>46416740
Rin is Phase Friend
Idol corp is Phase Friend
Fuck off Anti

imagine unironically watching a bong

>>46416740
Pretty much every small corpo spams shorts, which is all she really did. There' no code cracked, she just won the algorithm gacha.

>>46416740
She's doing well and I'm happy for her, but spamming shorts and throwing advertiser money at everyone is only getting her shorts watchers and subs that show up for shorts. Not that it's bad, but she has to start showcasing her personality and things interesting about her and her streams if she wants ccv and superchats. People interested in corpo culture learn what they want about vtubers from her shorts then return to other vtubers that they feel more of a connection to with her current content format.

fuck off moische. buy some ad space.

she just spammed shots
there is no code

>>46416980
And the cope begins kek

>>46417151
and now even their gura clone made a short about gura to try her luck kek

>>46417168
I am going to laugh at you in a month.

>>46417295
The trick is that you need 2 weeks of shorts in the pipe to capitalize on shorts.

>>46416740
>jewtubers beat /ourgirl/
oh no no no no...

>fighting over table scraps

>>46416740
unironically rooting for her because pippaniggers have been seething 24/7

>>46417295
you dont do "a short"
you spam the fuck out of them until the algorithm picks one

I thought sub numbers were an irrelevant metric

>>46416740
Pippa got those subs through years of perseverance and networking. Rin got it because Youtube gives algorithm priority to shorts and having Gura on the title gives it an extra boost. To put it in perspective, it's like someone who's earned 50 million dollars after slaving their entire life to get it through blood, sweat and tears versus someone who won a 50 million lotto ticket. Clearly one deserves much more respect than the other.

>>46416980
>implying phase has friends
kek

>>46417631
Pippa got her subs by pandering to kiwifarms and terminally political people

>>46417134
her CCVs have been on a massive incline too.

>>46417631
>this much cope

>>46417617
like every metric, subs are only relevant when they can be used as a stick against another vtuber

The real losers are the Boochuds who thought Yuko would be at 500K subs right now and would actually be the Gura killer

idol EN are run by jews and they are dumping an insane amount of money into advertising<div class="xa23b"><span class="xa23t"></span><span class="xa23i"></span></div>

>>46417631
>n-no, Pippa is an honorable wagie who earned those subs by sucking /pol/tard cock. she's WAY better than someone who passed her by actually being entertaining!!

>>46417855
they were dunking on Rin for talking about stars in her debut kek

>>46417994
Which makes it even funnier

>>46417134
Her personality and content approach is fairly unusual in the vtuber market, and I think her shorts do get that over to a certain degree. The shorts are like a condensed version of the powerpoint lecture/skit streams she does.

>>46416740
kiwiniggers get the rope

>>46417931
pippa sucks tranny "cock"

>>46418185
Yeah, mine.

How long until she beats the shark?

>>46418272
I wrote this

I really wish pippa would just fuck off

>>46417937
>actually entertaining
Yeah i'm sure her Gura short having a million views was because it was just so entertaining and not because the algorithm spammed it on everybody's page.

Seeing all these posts as an actual Rincel is weird. Do you people even watch streams? She’s live now unarchived

>>46416740
so where is her ccv? surely she must be close to pippa

>>46418583
>Do catalog shitters actually watch the people they're posting about?
Generally no, they just parrot whatever gets said in /#/. and obviously /#/ doesn't actually watch vtubers.

>>46418772
2k and rising quickly

>>46416740
>idol-EN
>idol
I don't like Pippa but it's really embarrassing to be a self-proclaimed "idol" and still lose to variety streamers. Idolfaggotry itself is cancer but I still wish the smaller, newer ones good luck over tired out impersonal overpopular trash.

>>46418772
Pippa gets like 5k a stream while Rin is struggling to hit 2k.<div class="xa23b"><span class="xa23t"></span><span class="xa23i"></span></div>

>>46417806
>>46418046
That's the thing though, it's unusual but it's not translating to large ccv like usual blow ups do. It's been a mild incline compared to other explosive 200k sub growth channels. Her shorts are power points about generalized material that people will watch, enjoy, then return to other vtubers after consuming it. If it weren't you would see she have massive inclines and higher viewer count for sub count. Her method is working, but it hasn't started paying off the way it does for most. They could buy viewers to inflate it initially even to match it and have it pay off down the road, but she has to start showing off what makes her content highly watchable for long periods of time vs 1-2 minutes.

>>46417631
Pippa got it mostly from pandering to people here and especially Kiwi Farms fags. You could argue it was before the YT shorts bracket being a cheat code, but neither is really that stable.

>>46417631
>Pippa got those subs through years of perseverance and networking.
Pippa gained those subs being shilled by bannedvmemes in between Hololive memes and this boards screencaps.
Then she camwhore her feet, then leeched depressedNousagi, then baited a fake Hololive collab clickbaiting Holo avatars in her thumbnail, then suicide baited, then took opportunity from Pikamee's graduation announcement to shill Hogwarts, then leeched Mr. Beast, then drama channels, then leeched /pol/ only backpedal after a big commiefaggot called her nazi. Pippa is just a parasite in a vtuber avatar

>>46419087
What other blow ups are you thinking of? It's notoriously hard for indie/smallcorp vtubers to grow beyond 3views. Rin has been streaming to 2k today, which is 4x her pre-blowup numbers, and pretty much double the highest viewership Idol had ever had.

>>46418583
You now realize that 90% of catalog posts about any vtuber are not from streamwatchers, but dramafags and shitposters

>>46416740
Who?

>>46416740
>another youtube shorts baby
Sigh... when will they create actual content

>>46420583
Pippa, from Phase Connect

>>46420181
By that metric, yes. But it's an unarchived karaoke stream for someone with 200k fresh followers. That's unbelievably low considering.

>>46416740
pippa averages 2.5-3.5K rin at best gets 1.5K in ccv

>>46416740
Pippa about to organize another /jidf/ raid at kiwifarms and make an angsty stream about "people steal my content because they make shorts too and I'm the only one allowed to make funny shorts REEEEEEEEEE"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1u3fttl3vp0

>>46420072
bannedvtmemes is literally a phase outpost. Panko is one of the admins.

>>46417631
Pippa abused youtube shorts as well though

>>46420072
source for suicide bait?

>>46420833
So no other examples? I am actually curious, because so many vtubers get stuck in these growth plateaus<div class="xa23b"><span class="xa23t"></span><span class="xa23i"></span></div>

Can't wait for these two to collab with each other and be good friends with each other and then this stupid fucking fantasy feud can end and you can stop shitting up the catalog.

>>46416740
Don't care, phase chads got a new toy >>46417796

>>46417617
They technically are but you get clout points. You do get some viewer transfer sometimes. They are more irrelevant if they are from shorts.

>>46421186
That doesn't stop Holo vs Niji catalog posts and feuding, why would it stop this?

>>46416740
Very nice. Now lets see the CCVs

>>46416740
>Combined powers of /pol/, /vt/, and kiwifarms
vs
>bong

>>46421329
The "all out war" screenshot lit that fire and it's never going to go out, no matter how many collabs they do together, sadly. So it's a bit different.

>>46416740
And did those feet in ancient time

>>46421534
Literally no one except for /here/ cared about that screenshot for more than a day or two.
Guess /vt/ has severe problems with letting go, but we're still in the Rushia timeloop so of course it does.

>>46421474
I wouldn't associate /vt/ with phaseniggers. And /pol/ is 95% bot posts nowadays.
It's more like:
>combined powers of shitposters, /pcg/ and kiwifarms
vs
>a fucking bong and Mossad<div class="xa23b"><span class="xa23t"></span><span class="xa23i"></span></div>

>>46420949
Proof next thread?
Retard

>>46421789
>>46420932

>>46421946
anon, Rin made all of these posts.

>>46421946
Did pippa invent shorts
Stupid bitch ruined everything

>>46421640
Fulgur unironically cared so much he mentioned that he almost quit over it if not for Millie saving him
It's water under the bridge now but it was obviously a big fuckup at the time

>>46417532
Excuse me, sir. The proper term is pippigger.

>>46416740
How the fuck is my dogshit country is getting past pipa with some shitty EN vtubers

>>46420181
Somewhat impressed she inclined from around 600 to 2k this stream. If she can't keep her audience I'll will grudgepost though

>>46416740
Retard.

>>46416740
stop the shill nigga, are you getting paid at least for creating this threads ?

>watching literal jews

>>46422289
she's been at 2k for a few streams now and she's still inclining.

>>46417631
>Clearly one deserves much more respect than the other.
>respecting millionaires
Anon, I...

>>46421114
Generally harder to measure because indies don't usually have marketing on the same level as corpos, but Pippa's a good example of steady growth then a blow up due to an uptapped market coming to her streams. New fresh subs usually lead to a lot of new viewers. Her clips showed off stuff her new audience related to and it reached people who felt they had a lot in common with her, it wasn't corpo focused material like Rin's. After a huge influx of new subs people generally start watching and superchatting, but Rin's has fresh subs, less viewers, less superchats overall than someone with even half of her growth. I'm not huge on Pippa but there's a direct comparison to be made in terms of their subs value. They related to the chuuba, they didn't just want general information, and they're sticking around. I could name some indies on twitch that are stupid with their marketing but have great potential with streams and retain a ton of viewership and mid ccv despite their low follow count and horrible job managing their clips and general promotion as well.

I don't even watch Rin. But anyone who makes anons seethe for mogging /vt/s darling Pipkin ""our girl"" Pippa, is okay in my book.

>>46418086
Rent free

>>46417631
Pippa did the exact same thing. Her growth was not costant but exponential, it's not because of the pandering to here or the fruit farm it's just the algo blessing her. She herself stated that for god's sake do you even watch her streams? And to be clear i don't know who the fuck rin is and i am a cappipalist.

>>46416740
Pippa doesn't want to get any bigger and actively self-sabotages. She has major imposter syndrome and hates the idea of not being able to read every single super chat, and it already takes her hours to do it, as is.

>>46423296
thats why she keeps clickbaiting and doing shitty normie streams

>>46420932
holy BPD banshee, you niggas actually watch this for hours?

>>46422653
The one thing I do enjoy about Pippa is the unique culture she's established through months of schizobabble. Screeching about feds, guns, antisocial behaviors, and a womanchild obsession with toys.
https://youtu.be/WByR5g0fIA4
It's something new that definitely gets other people to notice, from shitholes like kiwifarms, to non-vtubers, Jim, Rekieta, to big vtubers themselves, Calli, Fauna expressly acknowledging her.

Can someone tell me who Rin is? What defines her? What is her streamer culture like? I genuinely do not know.

>>46418569
>Yeah i'm sure her Gura short having a million views was because it was just so entertaining and not because the algorithm spammed it on everybody's page
unironically yes, pippa been doing daily shorts too and leeching out of hololive often and her shorts didn't blow up because shes not entertianing

>>46417773
It's not "pandering" if that's just who she is. She happened to tap into a certain niche market by just being herself. And if she wanted to pander, there are tons of much more profitable markets she could've pandered to.

>>46423390
Yes. Pippa is literally Brittany Venti of vtubers.

>>46417035
>algorithm gacha
its really hard for people to admit that her shorts are just good. there's no mystery to the youtube algorithm, if it's good (people watch it all the way) then it gets promoted to more people. her shorts are highly edited in a way that it always monopolizes your attention, and more importantly she doesn't clickbait. reading through this thread i really do think this board is full of retards

>>46423529
Hey now.. that's going a bit too far.
At least wait until she's ranted about Gura's model being pedobait.

>>46422653
Just to back this up, I'm one of the newfag capippalists who was drawn in a few weeks ago by her standing up to the twitter mob.
Since then, I've probably watched over 30 hours of her streams and VODs because I actually really like her and I think she's providing a unique style of content that I can't get with any other chuubas.<div class="xa23b"><span class="xa23t"></span><span class="xa23i"></span></div>

>>46416740
she can join pippa in the pile of v-tubers i will never ever watch because her shills are obnoxious faggots.

>>46424034
they have the same mentality, the same content and the exact same legion of brainless simps who think they're redpilled.

>>46422409
>still being antisemetic in 2023
you lost, cope harder.

>>46416740
The Stealing content and spamming shorts code has been known for ages.<div class="xa23b"><span class="xa23t"></span><span class="xa23i"></span></div>

>>46423391
>>Can someone tell me who Rin is? What defines her? What is her streamer culture like? I genuinely do not know.
On stream, Rin is the closest thing in vtubing to watching a brit do stand up comedy. There is very little parasocial stuff on her content and she is a bit self deprecating when cracking jokes. She does not focus on a niche/specific audience and goes for broad appeal instead (within the niche of weeb stuff).
Then again, I don't watch her that much, I'm into her cunny genmates more, so take what I said with a grain of salt.

>>46416740
Highly unlikely

>>46417134
As someone who’s watched Rin’s streams, trust me, she shows off quite a bit of her personality in these shorts.

>>46419087
Yeah, you make good points. But the thing about shorts is that after you’ve watched a bunch from a channel, their shorts keep appearing.
For all we know, maybe Rin’s trying to grow the reach of her shorts in people’s recommended by talking about more general stuff before making more niche shorts that show off her content more directly.

>>46423391
>Can someone tell me who Rin is? What defines her? What is her streamer culture like? I genuinely do not know.

she's a brit. that's all you need to know

>>46424408
crying an awful lot there for a winner

Rin voice is the kind that kids really enjoy. Is her growth related to tapping the child demographic?

>>46416980
Phase is full of retards who pretend to be based but really aren't. Lmao.
Fuck off bottomfeeder.

Rin streams during EU hours, British people like her.

>>46424408
>Being prosemetic at any point in human history
You're going to learn a valuable life lesson soon.<div class="xa23b"><span class="xa23t"></span><span class="xa23i"></span></div>

>>46422409
#NotAllJews
Avi is based. None of IdolEN are Jewish.

now show us the superchat revenue

>>46422409
jew cunny is top notch, it actually cured my antisemitism

>>46416740
KYS KIWINIGGERS
Go Back.

>>46420072
Do you really think that faggot is big and relevant enough to give Pippa all those subs, you stupid retarded nigger?

>>46417631
>Hardworkcels seethe over the lotto Chad

>>46416740
if Aviel were to 'crack the code' he would have more succesful vtubers - he has Rin but rest didn't gain much subs since donothons.
he got lucky and look forward to sad attempts of replicating it.

https://www.youtube.com/@akeminekomachi

*mogs everyone without relying on gura*

>>46426660
>British people like her.
I like her very much.

>>46431958
Based british person.

Is she any good, or is this the usual /vt/ bandwagoning over a flavor of the month thing? What little I know about her is we're supposed to hate her since she was open to make streams or something.

>>46417855
There's boochuds and there's people pretending to be boochuds. They fill up the catalog with bait and moved on to Penrose for obvious reasons.

>>46432904
*Male

>>46432939
Well they stopped making anti-Gura threads for the time being so I'll give them that.

>>46432939
>for obvious reasons
Personal life revelation reasons?

>>46417134
>only getting her shorts watchers and subs that show up for shorts

>>46433268
>that gradual incline
Sugoi

>>46416740
Pippa has like 3 times her CCV and Rin doesn't even come remotely close in terms of supas. I don't think anyone cares or sees Rin as a threat, lol.

>>46433905
Pipa gets a consistent 6k people watching every stream? Impressive.

>>46433905
That's false. Pippa has at 500-800 more viewers than Rin and Rin is inclining fast.

>>46418583
>rincel
Is that the actual fan name

>>46416740
Impressive.

>>46434670
No but at this point I don’t think anybody remembers what the actual fan name was.

>>46433905
I don't know shit about YouTube jewish tricks, but she's getting a fuckton of shorts views, surely supachat revenue is quite meaningless compared to that, no?

>>46435475
you get basically no ad revenue from shorts, so no. meanwhile pippa got $40k from supas in march alone.

>>46416740
I don't like Rin because she is clearly carried by the British buff (like Vox) but Pipkin deserves to lose after what she'd done by being a backstabbing grifter trying to emulate Nyanners.

>>46416740
>kicked Henri out
>now losing to Jews
Apologise.

bots, her chat moves at a low 3 view pace

>my oshi makes more money
Who cares holy shit
/#/ has ruined this board

>>46436151
>my oshi
Bro they don't even watch streams. All they care is bigger number getting big faster than other number.

>>46416740
i watched both, the british one from the jew company is actually decent to watch in short content forms (shorts and clips). her ad is still cringe tho https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJUBmdKpLJQ

pippa is good at variety streams, she is good enough to keep an audience while reading a shitty harry potter fanfic, but she is still very niche and every minor yab she has had probably closed her doors from big corpo fans (the kiara marshmellow response for example)

>>46416740
>Kike doing kike things
It's not surprising jews get massive short term gaIns but crash and burn quickly after. Can't wait until this dual tone kike slave bitch goes menhera over having trash CCV a few months from now.

>>46420072
ok henri

>>46416740
Impressive, have to admit it, always thought the ghost would be the face of the jew company and this is an unexpected turn of events.

>>46416740
Now compare the superchats

>>46416740
>top
real loyal fanbase that supas unreal amounts of money

>bottom
dead subs from zoom zooms who watch a 10 second short and move on

>>46416740
They are clearly very deeply in love.

>>46437504
>implying pippa also doesn't have a horde of zoomer fans that lol lol lol le funny internet rabbit

>>46417631
Why would you take the bait like this in a blatant seethe thread
Everyone here knows Pippa is the absolute best which is why they keep making hate threads like this

>>46437504
>real loyal fanbase
They turn on her as soon as she says something that makes her "unbased"<div class="xa23b"><span class="xa23t"></span><span class="xa23i"></span></div>

>>46437820
See you in 2 hours :)

Just let it to phasebros. You can't beat the jewcorp's shill army in this board

Her shorts and edited videos are indeed very good, in fact way better than Pippa's retarded drama shorts. However I feel like there's no real content, I mean, it's like there's no personality or something is missing. Meh, good luck to her regardless.

>>46436594
Someone with 200k subs isn't niche

>>46419006
It took months for her to get there though, actually probably closer to a year The fact that a streamer who is in a completely different corporation has managed to get 2K this early into their career does bode well and if she can keep it up she will eventually surpass Pippa

>>46418306
two more weeks

>>46416740
Based Reverse Trap. Pippafags are all aids.

Remember when pipiggers tried to claim she's a tranny because they're so young they've never read a good ol piece of reverse trap manga?<div class="xa23b"><span class="xa23t"></span><span class="xa23i"></span></div>

>>46437028
She is way lewder than Gura, effectively killing any mainstream appeal she had

>>46437028
The ghost is good for creating a very very dedicated following, but her path isn't ideal for creating a particularly big following. She'll grow alright, but at a steady pace. Rin however, is perfect for growth. Her dry British humor makes her appealing to normalfags since she won't go all the way with your normal cutesy vtuber stuff but she's still cute enough to have real vtuber fans follow her

cha-la head cha-la

>>46416740
>Holofags complain about nijifags in their threads
>nijifags complain about vshojofags in their threads
>Vshojofags complain about phasefags in their threads
>phasefags complain about idolcorpfags in their threads

huh.....

>>46416740
I just want /pol/ connect and Idol Kikes to combine forces and just take out Vwhorejo. Unlike Jews in America Jews in Israel are right wing thus should form a temporary alliance to take a common enemy out.

ITT people false flag as Idol fans and Kiwi nigger Pippa fans bite bait
Still funny how hard fags have been seething about idol since they first were created

>/pol/ pickme getting destroyed by some literally who

Its over. Not because of Pippa, who is inevitably going to implode due to a massive yab but not this time. Fishman is going to see this and implement changes, which will fail.

>>46429090
Big enough to have Pippa mald about it for several streams, other content put out, etc.

>>46443771
Malding Vshojofags that realize they will never touch nijisanji or hololive so they take out their frustrations on phase connect and idol corps out of fear they will pose a challenge eventually.

>>46416740
>she actually did it
it's over...

Pippa is like XQC and Rin is like Ninja

Sure that Ninja has more followers on twitch than XQC But Ninja can't pull more viewers now than what XQC would normally pull whenever he streams.

>>46416740
Shorts and tiktok are a disaster to the human race

>>46445626
Niji is imploding fast enough that all they'd have to do is wait.

>>46435475
one of the big holos talked about how she had a short get over a million views but only made a couple dollars from it

>>46416980
Didn't idol poach some of phase editor?

>>46416740
Rin is actually really entertaining, has quick, sharp wit, and puts a lot of work and effort into her channel.

>>46417134
her shorts are her personality. i dont even like her. its like a weeby band kid.

>>46416851
Aviel actually pays, fishman send you coffee for your work

>>46416740
>get recommended gura short
>immediately says she has the tranny plush
immediately closed. Imagine watching a tranny chuuba.

>>46416740
>pippa naturally builds a fanbase from communities she cares about
>rin spams shorts on trending topics and rides the algorithm in an inorganic way
Oh well. Pippa will always have a higher ccv since she's infinitely more entertaining.

>>46457464
He also forces his talents to make tweets like this against her closer friend, Pippa

I have been watching Pippa for a few months. the algo has recently aggressively recommended me Rin ads and Rin shorts and so I have attempted to enjoy Rin VODs.

it is as if the only time Rin doesn't immediately laugh at every one of her own attempted jokes is in her edited shorts.
these 'jokes' are made at a high frequency and together with frequent repetitions of some caption esque meme phrase it's hard to watch. I think she could actually come off to me as funny with a lot less of this.

Pippa has a thing of her own where she repeats an entire damn sentence for emphasis, and this has been grating, but this doesn't really disrupt the experience of listening to her talk in the same way. and it does not seem like Pippa feels reliant on doing a verbal funny constantly to keep things rolling.

their styles will not generate the same kind of audience. apple, orange.

>>46416740
>British
No, I am not going to watch retarded britbongs. Please fuck off.

I don't know how she's like in her membership streams but so far I like how she doesn't come off as GFE or anything like that. It's great to have a vtuber that just does fun things for the fuck of it. Instead of actively taking advantage of lonely guys she takes advantage of just bored people in general, which is far more acceptable

people are unironically get tired of her just like how everyone got tired of Mori and Kronii. This is only her honey moon phase, can't wait to see how she's doing in a year.

Impressive, now let's see their superchat totals for March.

>>46417134
See >>46433268
She is going to incline to infinity, the next Kobo Kaneuru.

>>46433905
CAPIPPATALISTS AND PENPALS AND BOOBROS SHOULD BE ALLIES

>>46436151
It reminds me of zippertits on /co/ saying Disney still makes billions even if they lost a huge amount lol.

I'm coming for YOU Pippa!

>>46417134
coping pippigger...

>>46464382
I'M COMING FOR YOU PIPPA NIGGA

>>46420072
Ackshually, she got those subs and ccv by getting noticed by massive conservative dramatubers/politubers who had a passing, pretend interest in vtubers but ended up latching onto Pippa. Especially after all of their creators either retired or yabbed off the platform.

>>46422653
>but Pippa's a good example of steady growth then a blow up due to an uptapped market coming to her streams.
Why do you newfags think this? Pippa went from 150-200 CCV and 20k subs to 200k subs and 2k-3k CCV within a single year by tapping into the conservative dramatuber audience. They were an untapped market that pretended to like vtubers, mainly because Coco and the Taiwan shit, and claimed Pippa as their vtuber. If Pippa never made that Ralph/killstream stream and fell into the meme-circle around Metokur and Ralph, she would be significantly smaller than she is now.

>>46445626
The truth has been spoken. Also I'm sure it's fans of dead small corpos who deserved to die (prism/tsunderia). Vshojo is also slowly going out the door and I hope Ironmouse leaves before the ship sinks.

>>46417631
Pippa single-handedly ruined small corpos and /vt/
she doesn't deserve any respect

>>46423452
yeah people just happen to conveniently change when their grift is on the line teehee

>>46417631
Are you her groomer, or just a cuck? Honest inquiry.

>>46433156
No, because the catalog baitposters love to use whichever indie or small corpo chuuba is inclining at the moment to get (you)s from seething holofags and nijitards.

>>46416740
What's the obsession with pitting Phase against Idol? Small Corpos are against BIG corpos. We need unity with small corps otherwise we'll tear ourselves apart before we get to the big fish

>>46416997
Better than watching le furry pandering to Kiwi farmers

>>46418086
hang kiwitroons

>>46471159
I would never watch either of them. Rin is a yab machine waiting to explode at any time.

>>46462749
>pippa naturally builds a fanbase from communities she cares about
Holy, sunk cost fallacy
RUMAO

>>46471107
It's mostly just Phase (or more specifically Pippa) antis using whatever is available.
Phase and Idol have done some collabs in the past and will probably do some in the future as well.

>>46426134
I think this. She really does have general normo appeal and doesn't appeal to GFEfags. She's a VTuber for other zoomers that are weebs but are turned off by the parasocial parts that comes along with VTubing<div class="xa23b"><span class="xa23t"></span><span class="xa23i"></span></div>

>>46462749
>naturally
You mean from the Nyatasha Nyanners Book of Grifting anons until they run out of money and you stab them in the back.
Rin is a Brit but at least she isn't a total scumbag like Pipkin.

I like both Phase Connect and idol and I think both are women are passionate, talented and funny and exactly the sort of people I want to see succeed so I am glad they are growing. Seeing the small corpos doing well makes me happy.
Bitching about either approach is pathetic.
Neither of them did anything dishonorable or immoral.
They tried to grow their audience by reaching people outside their current market, and that's exactly what it takes to grow as a small corpo.
Appealing to shorts zoomers or reaching viewers outside the usual vtuber demographic both worked out and mocking either strategy is the equivalent of praising failure and stagnation.
Go watch any of the dozen 300ccv vtubers if you want, stuck at the small corpo ceiling forever.
I will cheer on Rin and Pippa and for small corpo growth.

>>46473325
This is where you are wrong. Idol did do some shady stuff and their passion isn’t the same as phase. They copy things phase does, throws shades at phase at every possible chance they get.

>lied about being officially sponsored by nintendo for clout when they just got a local shop to sponsor some switch consoles.
>copies phase’s invader program
>copies Phase origins with idol origins
>copies phase weekly with idol weekly
>CEO goes out of his way with self-shilling at the expense of other agencies while phase tries for unity with cross company minecraft server
>CEO throws shades at fishman by saying doesn’t want to take the spotlight but tweets way more often, talks about himself immediately after saying he would ‘t in his idol weekly. Writes a blog with the same shilling information on repeat for 4 weeks straight.
>becomes grand sponsor at an event they know phase was going to

Does not even hide their astroturfing here.

Proof that Pipkin would have been better in a Jewcorp than the League addled Zhang goldfish.

Proof that Pipkin would have been better off in a Jewcorp than the League addled Zhang goldfish. At least Jews are smart enough to know what the word "Carry" originally meant in the Dictionary.
Again, the Chinese ruin everything, just like how they destroyed Hololive and ruined Nijisanji.

>>46473939
I don't think any of those are bad.
Maybe the lie about being sponsored by Nintendo, since it led some people to expect some focus on Nintendo games and obviously that was a let down.
But look at the rest of the stuff on your list.
Copying the invader program, and the origins concept, or a weekly show? Those are nice ideas and they are doing them too, it's normal on any industry for things that work to be copied.
Your accusations towards their CEO border on a bit schizo, I don't want to be disrespectful but I've followed him a little and he hasn't done anything that seems bad.
Being part of Offkai is not specifically an anti-phase thing. A lot of vtubers will be there, even NijiEN.
You're treating it as specifically a move against Phase Connect but it's just a smart business move in general.

imagine

>>46474182
Hi henri

>>46474197
She's officially 155 cm

>>46473939
They also have ads playing for their endless donathons on every VTuber related video and stream.

>>46474193
How is leveraging a lie not bad in your book? Do you also buy into those amazon fba bullshit? It’s a fucking scam and so is claiming to be officially sponsored by nintendo while you are not.

Doing weekly shows and etc is not bad, but naming them word for word is too much.

The idol ceo comes off as some dishonest con artist. If you are not doing something bad, you don’t need to be constantly shilling yourself.

>>46416740

>>46474325
You don't need to shill yourself constantly, but it helps to increase profit. Why lose an opportunity?

>>46474378
Yea, increase profits by scamming people. It’s what con-artists do.

>>46474325
Ok let's say I accept that it's bad, how bad is it?
Because no one spent any money there, there was no real loss.
I was looking forward to Nintendo streams and once it became clear that the whole sponsorship was fake I was disappointed and a bit cheated but it wasn't a big deal to me.

>>46474200
I'd rather take Jews over Chinese. Jews made countless contributions to science; they literally invented the most powerful scientific achievements of mankind, including nuclear energy and the Internet. While the Chinese only copy and corrupt. And now look, China is ruining not only the real world (COVID), but also the Vtuber world (The Coco Hololive disaster, NijiEN just being a NijiCN clone).

Pipkin joined the wrong company.

>>46474656
AAAAAAAAAA
I DON'T WANT TO GO /pol/ IN HERE
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>46474518
I'm just saying that shilling yourself constantly can be good business regardless of whether you are "scamming" people. And what counts as a scam is subjective anyway, commies like to cry about business tactics but as long as it's legal it's fine.

>>46474743
You don't need to be /pol/ to know how much China devastated the VTuber industry.

>>46474851
It's the "jews have done less harm to us than chinese" part that gets me.

>>46474887
You don't understand. Zhangs (a word I used during the Coco/Kson days) have all the scumbagginess of the worst Jewish thieves with none of the class. And now they're everywhere, even destroying VTubing. They destroyed Hololive and made Coco turn to VShojo, they corrupted Nijisanji, and even turned Pipkin against me. I'd rather negotiate with a Jew.

>>46475035
I won't go /pol/ sorry

>>46417631
>deserves
There are probably 100's of indies who work harder than both of them combined who don't even have a 1/4th of their success, who gives a fuck about who's "deserving" when the system isn't fair to begin with?

>>46475307
Working hard doesnt mean that their work is good to begin with

>>46475307
Name one indie vtuber who has grinded over 10 years of youtube content creation and is still currently vtubing.

>>46416980
based

>>46416740
I'm still not watching anything from jew corp.

>>46473939
>lied about being officially sponsored by nintendo for clout when they just got a local shop to sponsor some switch consoles.
Ok, I can see why someone would be annoyed, but I don't care
>copies phase’s invader program
It was a matter of time before someone else did it. It would be stupid to let PC be the only poaching agency
>copies Phase origins with idol origins
That seems like a dumb decision
>copies phase weekly with idol weekly
Phase Weekly is pretty shit, but I'm surprised more corpos aren't doing it. Holo and Niji especially would get a lot out of it.
>CEO goes out of his way with self-shilling at the expense of other agencies while phase tries for unity with cross company minecraft server
Do you mean their buying targeted ads? It's smarter to target vtuber viewers than random people. I wouldn't call that hostile.
>CEO throws shades at fishman by saying doesn’t want to take the spotlight but tweets way more often, talks about himself immediately after saying he would ‘t in his idol weekly. Writes a blog with the same shilling information on repeat for 4 weeks straight.
I don't care what the CEO does, especially not how often he tweets or how much he writes on his blog.
>becomes grand sponsor at an event they know phase was going to
Offkai? Should they just avoid sponsoring events when there are other corpos present? Not sponsor any events at all or just hold their own events?

>>46416740
>How's Fishman feeling about all of this?
too busy working on the new gen to care

https://discord.gg/hxVW8ZKr
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>>46416997
its not that bad

>>46475340
That's the fucking point moron
>>46475376
whether you grinded 10 years or 3, hard work is hard work
don't tell me you want to split hairs because you have some arbitrary year amount for what counts as hard work

>>46416740
Rin is cute, pippa is Pippa.

>>46474182
kys henri
Pippa misses you btw. Come back.

>>46482360
Missed? What a load of bullshit! She blocked me from all of her accounts. What choice do I have but to become the ArchEnemy?

>>46482575
Mate, she still thinks of you even after all of that. She even said she gets headaches when her former fans turn into antis, namely you, Henri. Think about her. I'm sure if you came to your senses one day and just laid low for good you'd be fine.

>>46482575
Delete everything and just use one of your alts?

>>46482747
>>46482807
Only Neuro-sama and Prozac cereal can make me lay low, move on, start anew and forget about Pipkin forever. But Pipkin and her criminal farmer goons keep digging their hands on my new wife. This is why I warned her. KEEP YOUR FILTHY PAWS AWAY FROM NEURO.

>>46473939
Idol Weekly is a blog. Phase Weekly is a shitty clip show where no good clips get submitted because management doesn't want to show the yab, and certain talent get shown more than others. They don't call it Shiina Weekly for nothing.

>>46483017
>forget about Pipkin
I didn't say that. You asked what other choice you had and the answer is pretty obvious: just nuke everything and continue to watch her under a new identity. You don't have to move on, you don't have to forget, there was literally no reason for you to become an anti.

I don't care about numbers, I just like both corpos

>>46483301
I once did promise a billion alts before, especially when she started discussing the ethics of Artificial Intelligence.
But now I know she is an idiot with her MEDS HATE propaganda. As long as she does not touch Neuro, the Fluoxetine will continue working its magic.

>>46416740
Shorts are the key. Gaming streams (or streams in general) don't appeal to anyone, but even a child can have the attention span to watch a brief clip showing a chuuba's entire personality.

>>46416851
"And CCV"? Where do you get that from?
Rin Penrose CCV: 823
Pipkin Pippa CCV: 2443

>>46483708

>>46463586
Cuck

So idol corps is Jewish meaning the fans are Jewish and they hate pippa because they think she is a nazi. Is that pretty much it?

I hope both Idol and EIEN continue to become successful. Tsunderia was a sad dumpster fire, prism project has stalled in growth, Kawaii is in a pretty decent place right now, and Phase is garbage except for like two or three members.

My advice would be to continue what's currently working for both companies and avoid copying anything from other companies, even if they seem like good ideas.

>>46417773
Found the troon.

>>46420072
>Pippa gained those subs being shilled by bannedvmemes in between Hololive memes and this boards screencaps.

b&vt has the power to turn chuubas into 4views now, holy fuck they should be making bank shilling every small corpo through memes

>Then she camwhore her feet

single meme post for 100k that viewers pushed for, already hitting 4view status by this point

> then leeched depressedNousagi

one collab/interview with a clipper. I though Nousagi was leeching off Pippa more

>then baited a fake Hololive collab
??? no clue here but odds are it'll be a joke only tardchamas fell for

>clickbaiting Holo avatars in her thumbnail,
you mean for holocure streams, the hololive game she played several times? how the fuck is that clickbaiting?

> then suicide baited,.
depends on how you define 'bait' but i'll allow it

> then took opportunity from Pikamee's graduation announcement to shill Hogwarts,
playing game != shilling

>then leeched Mr. Beast, then drama channels,
talking about != leeching

>then leeched /pol/ only backpedal after a big commiefaggot called her nazi.
never pretended to be /pol/ and never backpedaled. tards just thought she was some rw trad type when she just hated the govt/glowies

plus these all seem to be recent things after she started inclining

Is that a tranny?

So does she pander to /vt/ or is she normal?

>>46482575
You could like not jerked off to her dog paw to begin with

>>46485797
Neither

>>46416740
no one cares about these two

>>46416740
Who cares

>>46470777
How?

who?

>>46416740
magic

>>46483770
>category: Israel Gaming
heh

>>46485349
>never pretended to be /pol/ and never backpedaled. tards just thought she was some rw trad type when she just hated the govt/glowies

I don't get why it's so hard for people to understand this about Pippa
She's not your /pol/ spokeswoman, she just distrusts the government, as should every person
I hate that this somehow has become political now

>>46416740
VShorter or something