/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>46426158
buy an ad space you seething 2view

>bannedvtmemes on his way to cover up the yab by spamming random hololive "drama"

>>46426158
>rebrand arc 5%

Damn. That corp really didn't end well.

>>46426158
>oh no someone is using my old model I abandoned
Hylo needs to stfu

I volunteer to beat up Lumi for you...with my dick...in her pussy.

>>46426158
https://twitter.com/PhaseConnect/status/1642263518165741571

Fishman cucks out.

>>46427121
this is corpo code for "we don't give a fuck".

Lumi being a piece of shit the iconic duo.<div class="xa23b"><span class="xa23t"></span><span class="xa23i"></span></div>

Holy kek, that's hilarious.

>>46427121
Of course they would.
It's her property by her Cyberlive contract and them using it is actually illegal. There isn't a single corpo out there who wouldn't respond the same way.

Why are phase and their fans such shit stirrers?

>>46426158
>Inami Yoki

>>46427486
Feels good to be back in highschool...

>>46426158
I love Lumi kek

>>46426158
Phasechuds how could this happen to us? We're getting mogged by a male collaber in Idol Corp and now the yibbity yabberino is happening!

BVTM Status?

Why the fuck would you use someone else's model without authorization?
Not a big yab, but pretty damn stupid.

>>46427486
>Playing the fucking cum-man campaign.

Is it normal for her to sound like Vei?

>>46427486
Inami Yoki has a super cute model. Too bad her voice is too deep for it.

>>46427486
>israel

>>46427441
Hahaha fuck off
You don't know shit about CL or PC. Go back to your whore threads.
In fact, or ANY vtuber group at that. Basically none of the talents in any group own anything to do with their models.
CL were a minority of a minority in the general vtubing sphere.

>>46427486
Fucking hypocrite lmao
https://twitter.com/InamiYoki/status/1642267265432186883

>>46427719
Get mogged by Rin bitch

>>46426158
Who?

>>46427738
woman moment

>>46427738
Deserved, Lumi should have said hi back.

>>46427751
>$250 in superchats from a 2k stream
Jewbros...

>>46426158
>Rebrand
>1 view
Nigga no one cares about you lol

Based goofy retard

>>46427799
>oh no someone else is upset about this, maybe I should be upset as well!
>[post tweet]
Have to say ghost, kinda disappointed.

>>46427882
Now let's see Pippa's numbers :^)

>>46427738
Fresh news, she wasn't happy *happy emoji*
https://twitter.com/InamiYoki/status/1642285412323295241

>>46426158
Why does she their models anyway?

>>46428000
she used to be a manager at CL, that's how, probably
unless they were actually dumb enough to just handle them over

>>46428000
She managed the company for a while when it was crashing down iirc

>>46427994
>>46424003

>>46427994
About $2k, what about it?

>>46428082
>>46428102
>not even in the Top 40
Capippixisters we lost

>>46427965
>being disappointed by women
tale as old as time

>CyberLive
Who the fuck cares about this shitty high school roastie group that rightfully died?

>>46428146
Are you retarded? She's top 10 above Fauna.

>>46427719
You seem to be a complete ignoramus when it comes to copyright laws.
Here's a primer. You cannot make money using a model that you do not have a commercial contract for. No company is exempt, no talent is exempt.
All cyberlive talents were given the contract rights to the CL models. That is how Lumi and Yuri were able to transfer their models to PC and it's how the rest of CL can use there's as indies.
At no point did Hylo transfer that contract to Lumi.

>>46428146
>moving the goalpost

>>46428146
>deleted
KWAB

Lumi is one the fakest vtubers I've ever seen. Such a bad actor.

>>46426158
Big leagued.

>>46428420
Yellow woman is so fake it kinda loops around and becomes based again

>>46426341
>hololive drama
Doesn't that fag mostly post Nijisanji drama?

>>46426158
Ah onlyfans chama my beloved fridge.

April Fools?
I dunno who the other vtuber is.

>>46428265
>armchair lawyer
https://www.google.com/search?q=parody+and+commercial+copyright+law
anyway, moving on

>>46426158
Based lumi deserves every bit of shit thrown at her.

>>46427738
Someone gonna tweet >>46427486 to her and expose her?

>>46428875
NTA but you seriously think using a stolen model that is owned by someone else by a corporation for profit is legal and ethical? phaseshills are actually mentally retarded

>>46427041
i'm not siding with either party here, but it's still her fucking model. are you kidding me? what a retarded argument.

>>46428983
>stolen

>>46428875
They are a Canadian company. Don't know if that changes anything. Either way, claiming that showing someone's model on stream for a bit is somehow a big deal is retarded.
>>46428958
Someone already did. https://twitter.com/InamiYoki/status/1642285412323295241
>>46428983
>stolen
Fucking retard. Kill yourself.

>>46428983
They gave it to her tho

>>46428983
the hacker known as yellow woman!

>>46427041
Retard

>>46429269
Well, she is a lemon stealing whore after all.

>>46427738
>>46428958

Lumi schizo defense force going hard and they do it for free kek

>>46427486
>>46427738
Women gonna woman.

>>46429023
Depends on the legality of it all. Cyberlive disbanded, who inherited ownership of the models? In what way was Lumi using the model? Did she just show it (nothingburger) or did she puppet it?

Also it's kinda based they're playing AoE2 campaigns but they're playing on moderate instead of hard which is kinda cringe.

>>46429202
nta but she was given access to it as a manager of the company they both were in, using it outside of her duties as a manager is at the very least unethical

>>46427486
wow she collabs with veibae?

>>46429459
AoE2 campaigns are average at best, this Veibae clone needs to start playing multiplayer

>>46429405
>Nowhere in the message she says it was nice to see her model
>Schizo defense force DIDNCHU SEID IT WAS NAICE TO C UR MODLE
Why are they like this?

>>46427486
>>46427738
*Sigh*

>>46429429
I'm sorry, you're on 4chan - people here generally despise copyright and shit on people defending it in any way.
>>46429477
This, it's slightly unethical at best.
Haachama did it with WIP Hololive models and they got dropped hard. (or, worse, she did it to mock them because she knew it was going to be dropped)
I actually forgot the artist for them now, his name was right on the tip of my tongue as I remembered. I fucking hate when that happens. I can remember the flow of the word, just not the letters.

>>46428082
Man, Koyori is squeezing dry her josh kuns

Hylo is completely in the right to not want Lumi using this model, but demanding they tell her to delete her files off her PC looks sort of unhinged. It shouldn't matter whether those files are on there or not if she's not using them.

>>46428983
>>46429056
>>46429160
>>46429202
>>46429269
>still trying to defend it
the talents own the models when they leave, if someone wouldve used Lumi's model phase would go after them.

this is why everyone on the board treats /pcg/ as a joke, bunch of yes man circlejerking<div class="xa23b"><span class="xa23t"></span><span class="xa23i"></span></div>

>>46429604
Hi
https://twitter.com/kuwanano_vt/status/1642284025053171719

>>46429551
The vanilla campaigns are pretty meh, the latter-day expansions have pretty fun romps if you max the difficulty for them.

That said I still won't watch Lumi after her horrifically botched Veibae surgery. Jesus what a downgrade.

>>46428875
Yes. That would be their counterclaim. Then it would go to court. PC is in Canada so
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fair_dealing_in_Canadian_copyright_law
but you are correct. I am not a lawyer, nor do I have any wish to ever be one, and neither are you.
If they didn't resolve this amicably it would be a copystrike/counterclaim/court proceeding.

>>46429604
>hi lumi *happy smiley face*
She totally wasn't happy about it. Sure.
>Could have told her directly not to do it
>Instead she does it publicly on twitter and getting her superiors involved
Totally not just her being a backstabbing cunt.

>>46429960
What kind of actual retard do you have to be to not consider the message as a positive one?

>>46429459
she puppeted it

>lumi makes a harmless joke
>Nyoooooo you can't do that it's unethical!!!!
Fucking losers

>>46429914
The moment she quit cl she should have deleted them period

it's really a breath of fresh air to see a drama whose actors you don't know at all

>>46430084
>wants corpo-backing
>wants the freedom to do whatever she wants
you can't have the cake and eat it too. that's retarded, gay and cowardly.

DON'T LET THEM BUMP THE THREAD ANYMORE WE MUST SLIDE THIS AWAY AS FAST AS POSSIBLE

>>46426158
Does the person complaining own the model in question? Do they still go by the same name?

>>46427719
Anon I know it's april fools but you don't have to pretend to be this retarded for the luls

>these retards don't know what work for hire is

Guess what, once you make a model for someone else, you don't own it anymore. They're free to do whatever they want with it. Cope and seethe.

>>46430382
Read on, fuckwit.

This is the most retarded thread I've seen in a while. Seethe faggots.

>>46430569
You're not getting out of this one so easily phasecuck

>>46430370
yep, Hylo used to be the poster girl of Cyberlive. It's all tied. The contract allowed the girls have the character and model ownership transferred onto them after a while and that's exactly what happened.
Lumi didn't have the right to do that and she just abused her old manager perms.

>>46430127
Yeah, her forgetting to delete resulted in this.

>>46430194
Yes
Lumi has more views than them, she can do what she wants<div class="xa23b"><span class="xa23t"></span><span class="xa23i"></span></div>

>>46430460
Next look up what happened to Cyberlive and who all their assets went to, lawyer anon.

>>46430631
Are you going to seriously defend some retarded women having a prime woman moment and quite literally demanding the CEO of PC do something when they could have easily done this in DMs?

Once an aspie, always a backstabbing aspie

not a surprise, lumi has always been twofaced bitch

>>46430569
Remember, Xalabussy, you're doing this for free!

>>46430794
Check the screenshot faggot, she tried to handle it in DMs and was unable to

>let me use the models that you legally own without your permission
Stupid bitch

>>46429914
If the files are deleted then it can't happen again and the matter can be considered settled. It's actually the most hinged response.

>>46430794
Everyone involved in this is retarded, but if I have to side with anyone I'll with with the retard karen over the two faced thieving whore.

Your samefagging is not even subtle anymore.

>>46430794
I guess PC can do no wrong in your eyes right? fuck around and find out phasefaggot it's time to set things right because of Lumi's abuse.

>>46430665
Ok, well that's fine and all but all this "we aren't on friendly terms" shit is just trying to smear her character and has no bearing on the use of the model. Chances are there will be a quick "ok sorry" without actually meaning it or giving a shit and this will all blow over. This person tho is trying to be a slimy shit however and has damaged their reputation in my eyes. Don't try and get a movement going on twitter, DM Fishman, and have it dealt with in a professional manner.<div class="xa23b"><span class="xa23t"></span><span class="xa23i"></span></div>

>>46430931
Lumi is still streaming and she didn't even use PC discord. Hylo never even tried.

>>46431093
Even I think Lumi was dumb for doing this.
But Hylo is stirring shit up for the sake of stirring shit up with a model she literally disowned.
That says a lot more in this whole non-issue of a drama.

>>46430794
she tried to, lumi didn't respond, you fucking retard
i hope her toes are worth it, simp

>obvious parody
I don't know how copyright law works in Canada, but if they have anything akin to fair-use then anyone anyone claiming legality on anything is retarded. Would you have the same opinion if she just did a cardboardy version and autistically shook it around on the screen?

>>46431327
>Don't know how copyright law works in Canada
>Or anywhere else, apparently

Top kek, she could actually get perm banned for this

>>46431563
Kill yourself Bradley.

If they didn't actually buy or otherwise acquire the rights to the models from Cyberlive then it's kind of a legal grey zone. Also grey for Lumi to use them. Since there was no attempt at making profit or pretending to actually be the vtubers, I don't think there would be anything to letigate. However if she tried to sell merch of the designs or actually pretending to be the vtubers themselves it would be an issue.

>>46431563
It's not impersonation, anon.

>>46431563
Hi bradley

>>46431563
In no reality would this actually happen, this applies to actual serious attempts to impersonate someone else not a one off gag.

>>46431703
All the CL girls who left own their models as per their contract

>>46431427
Fair use isn't that complicated, anon:
https://letmegooglethat.com/?q=parody+fair+use

>>46426158
>not on friendly terms
why

>>46431986
fair use is for individuals, not for "for profit" companies.

>>46432170
it's a long story and it's hard to tell who's lying.
but yeah, there's no reason to believe that they're friends.

>>46432170
CL days. And probably the fact that Hylo tried to whore Lumi and Yuri out to their whales to paid discord dates.

>>46431563
Meanwhile in reality
https://www.twitch.tv/atheneaiheroes/videos

>>46427738
What a backstabbing little slut. I see now why Lumi ended up ditching Cyberlive.

>>46431703
One could argue that the donations was an attempt at profiting off their models, but it would be insanely dumb to actually take legal action.<div class="xa23b"><span class="xa23t"></span><span class="xa23i"></span></div>

>>46432205
Making money doesn't automatically negate any fair use, retard.

>>46431563
DO IT

>>46427546
Rin is NOT a man.

It's well known that Lumi backstabbed the rest of CL after leaving by leaking discord logs on /trash/. She also has a pet schizo as a mod

>>46429459
>who inherited ownership of the models?

The individual talents own their models. That was Cyberlive's big "thing," that all of the streamers were able to buy out the IP rights for their models. All of the talents bought out the rights before they left.

>>46426158
>130 comments on literally nothing
You faggots really need a better hobby.

>>46432802
Yeah, its all Lumi's fault.
Not the CEO who was retarded
Not the managers who quit or didn't do their job
Not the talents who formed a mean girls group instead of actually trying to make good content

So Lumi being a bitch wasn't just a rrat

>>46432719
>Making money doesn't automatically negate any fair use, retard.

but being a corporation does.

>>46432802
And yet, she was still right.
You always like to ignore that fact.

>>46432802
>>46433022
>not new IP

>>46433058
Tell that to every news company.
Tell that to half of Youtube who are under companies.

>>46430010
that certainly does look backstabbing, but still she has the right to request it and sue if they don't, moral character not withstanding.

>>46432971
tell that to the replies on the tweet

>>46433271
She can't sue her for showing her model on stream. See >>46431986

>>46433307
Twitter users aren't people.

>>46432719
>>46433058
Thanks, I didn't realize that shows like The Daily Show or The Colbert Report were breaking the law until now. I understand now.

Always funny watching Phasefags desperately try to bury yabs that they'd relentlessly shit all over any other company for

>>46432971
don't forget where you are faggot

>>46433271
There's zero actual grounds to sue, I don't know if you're a eurofag falling for the "Americans sue for anything!" meme but literally no one would take this seriously, it's just a quick move for pity points and clicks.

>>46429355
Those damn lemon stealing whores!!!<div class="xa23b"><span class="xa23t"></span><span class="xa23i"></span></div>

letting women into vtubering was a mistake<div class="xa23b"><span class="xa23t"></span><span class="xa23i"></span></div>

>>46433493
Cyberlive doesn't even exist anymore lol

>>46433521
You can literally fire a lawsuit for almost anything you want anon, but surviving a motion to dismiss and not paying the defendant's attorney fees or getting sanctioned because your lawsuit is completely meritless is another thing entirely.<div class="xa23b"><span class="xa23t"></span><span class="xa23i"></span></div>

>>46432504
what about the members who didn't join Phase?

>>46428736
Lol no. For some reason the Niji thread always accuses him of being a holofag when he is one of the biggest holo antis, especially towards any of the unicorn-friendly girls and takes every opportunity to shit on them, Gura especially. His anti-Gura rhetoric is literally identical to the catalog shitposters. He's also a huge beggar and has been shitting on Kanata a lot recently.

I don't trust Lumi. Drama like this doesn't linger around one person for no good reason.

>model appears for 2 seconds
>AAAAAAAAAAA THIS IS ANOTHER VTUBERCAUST
Western women
Were a mistake

Sei= Xalabussy

>>46433840
Yeah, she did this either purposefully for her own clout drama, or she was stupid and thought nobody would mind her using the models without permission.

>>46426158
>fleshtuber
https://twitter.com/AyaneHylo/status/1642301610054254594/photo/1

>>46433968
...and?
no other arguments than ad personam?

Stay mad Sei

She could have just emailed the company and sorted this out like an adult, she's just looking for attention, this is such a nothing drama.

>>46432504
Anyone got that image of price listings like an escort menu?

>>46433803
Whole CL was all kind of shitshow. Underage manager who did nothing, Lumi replacing her and managing others for free. They were bunch of jealous females shitflinging on her in private that depended on her to survive. When Yuri and Lumi left to Phase CL lost 70% of income and went under in few months.

They never forgiven Lumi for getting fed up with all that shit, leaving and, the worst part, finding success.

>>46433099
So Lumi being a bitch wasn't just a rrat

>>46434082
One of /pcg/ anons said that Phase isn't that good at replying

>>46427041
you have three guesses who paid for that model

>>46434391
She didn't even try though, this all happened today.<div class="xa23b"><span class="xa23t"></span><span class="xa23i"></span></div>

>>46434228
>Lumi replacing her and managing others for free
I hope she learned her lesson

>>46434541
To be precise, this all happened before the stream even ended.

Misaki did nothing wrong

>>46426341
pancho would never

So did Lumi just not run this stupid idea by her management first, or did they really give her the go ahead to use a load of models she doesn't own without permission?
https://twitter.com/OumiyaEmma/status/1642305732086493184/photo/1

>>46434751
I'd forgive Misaki if she tweeted @ the phase account asking for her file to get deleted too

>>46434995
Clout chasing whores

motherfucking yellow veibae really kills phase connect and not pippa
awesome

>>46434995
They don't actually care, just so you know.

>>46435119
Misaki's whole character was 100% Cyberlive-owned and she was FIRED, and given that Cyberlive no longer exists and the CEO's fucking evaporated I can't see the point, not even as a meme

>>46435194
How does a bunch of seething hasbeens kill Phase Connect?

>>46435271
it'd be funny, thats why

>>46435194
Dumbfuck dramafag catalognigger.

That's kinda stupid and over-reaching to ask 'delete them from your computer'. LMAO, at most, you can ask do not use them on stream.
Maybe she worded it the wrong way.

>>46435272
i hope she sees this, smug

>>46431009
>deletes the files off her computer, posts a recorded video of herself deleting it
>zoomer: gone forever, it can't happen again!
>files: in ten different external drives, 20 optical media backups, 30 USB sticks, and backed up to magnetic tape
do zoomers really?

I just want to fuck her tits<div class="xa23b"><span class="xa23t"></span><span class="xa23i"></span></div>

>>46435491
given that they were given to her to fulfill her duties at a job she no longer has at a company that no longer exists and she didn't exactly like it in the end... i actually think she should've deleted those, unless it was all planned, which would be very fucking malicious.

>unethical
Jesus christ why is this board so whiny

>>46429551
is there even a single vtuber out there who can execute a build order or a specific kind of timing attack?

>>46435571
The joke is done and it was the most entertaining thing this year. Repeating it would be lame. Nobody cares if she deletes them.

>>46435656
I'm not denying it wasn't funny/entertaining for her to bring out all those models, but you can't blame the chuubas for being upset about it either.

>>46435656
Women and men pretending to be women.

>>46435656
Too many females here

>>46435775
They aren't actually upset you fucking retard. They are seething because Lumi is successful and they aren't.

>/vt/ becomes /vtwitter/
best joke ive seen this april fools

>>46430084
Hi Smugdoka!

>>46426158
I found out about this from Emma, who else did Lumi anger today?

>>46435775
the most entertaining part is the drama that's boiling.
Miori Celesta and Chibidoki replied, Lumi is fucked.
>>46435885
Cope, janny, you're doing this for free.

>>46435885
source: the voices in the walls told me so

>>46435966
>Lumi is fucked.
yeah, by me

>>46435926
>becomes

>>46435926
are you this new? this board's always been about twitter screencaps

>>46435628
>>46435993
I'm actually the one pushing my cock between her funbags and shooting straight down her throat

They have Lumi's model too, it's not one sided.

>>46427486
Really need to fuck Uruka, while I smell her Dove scented hair...

>>46436084
allegedly have her model, they've never been dumb enough to put it on stream

>>46435966
>miori
>chibidoki
haha well shit

anyone in this thread who thinks this is an issue or is offended by it is a woman. not only are they a woman, they are most likely the women making these call out tweets. all the ex cyberlive whores are known to come on /vt/ and shit talk each other<div class="xa23b"><span class="xa23t"></span><span class="xa23i"></span></div>

>>46429783
I wish Koyori would squeeze dry my dick

>>46436156
They should, just so Lumi can not give a shit because it wouldn't matter at all.

>>46436084
Why would they? I assumed Lumi had access to theirs because she was a manager for CyberLive, I don't see why any of them would have hers unless she specifically gave it to them at some point.

>>46436239
i hope she sees this bro

>>46435966
>Miori
no one takes that menhera seriously anyway

>>46436088
I want to rub my dick on her eyebrows

>>46435571
>Doesn't delete the files.
>Uses them again.
>Faces an even worse shitshow the next time around.
do boomers really?

naked dogeza, now

AROUND YELLOW WOMAN, NEVER RELAX.

>He trusted

>>46436317
>>46435966
Miori always puts herself on the wrong side of these things. She was one of the people whining about AI art too, until she gave up and deleted those tweets. Nobody should take her seriously.
As for Chibidoki, she's a complete fraud.

fuck bitches
get money

>>46436640
SHE JUST RAN OVER 3 VTUBER MODELS

>>46436669
deal with it.

>>46436640
SHE CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT

>>46427542
>>46435155
>>46436640
>>46436705
kill yourselves, phaseniggers
how the fuck can you defend her when she did an objectively wrong thing

women publicize their private photos(nudes) and then they act shocked when you share them
baka

>>46436815
Because it's funny.

At what point did you get the impression that I am or care about being a good person, while posting on the 4chins?

>>46436815
hylo if you put as much effort into working out as you did vtweeting you wouldn't be so fat

>>46436590
Mio is good friends with Emma and has never talked to Lumi as far as I know, of course she's going to defend Emma

>>46436360
Anon no

>>46436815
>objectively wrong
next time don't join a corpo and hand over your personally paid for model assets to a "manager", dummy.

They did PAY for those models, right? Because it might just turn out they belong to CyberLive after all. We don't know for sure, do we?

>>46436815
>make vtweeter seethe
How is this bad?

>>46436304
They gave their models to each other for shits and giggles back then.

>>46435966
No one's fucked, in two days no one will even care.

>>46436815
>objectively wrong thing

>>46436815
see >>46432504. Being objectively wrong doesn't make other side any better.

>>46436963
they all got to keep their models, so we do know. are you retarded? either way it's wrong if cyberlive still owns them, since lumi isn't, you know, in cyberlive. it's fine to not get angry about it because it is kind of silly, but to say she's not in the wrong here is a simp's retarded delusion.

>>46427096
get in line

>>46436088
URUKA THREAD

Are you ready for 24 hours of BGM?<div class="xa23b"><span class="xa23t"></span><span class="xa23i"></span></div>

>>46436815
You don't know what "objectively wrong" means. Showing abandoned models on stream for 30 seconds for an April Fools joke harmed nobody. These women are just seething and want attention.

>>46436088

>>46436815
Because it's funny lol
>NOOOOOO SHE USED MY MODEL TO MAKE A JOKE WTF
Who the fuck cares

>>46437214
>abandoned
the cyberlive contract handed the ownership over to all the talents.
these models weren't hers.
simple math, retard.

>>46436239
>>46436281
Oh the
>nothingburger
tactic. Haven't seen that for a while.
So that backstabbing bitch lumi and her doxxfaggot of a boyfriend been high on defense huh.
Why couldn't she just apologize and delete all her stolen models to end this shit of a drama.

>>46436815
seethe more

>>46434228
kinda based ngl but she still deserve to be corrected
by me
and this guy
>>46427096

>>46437325
They don't use these models anymore. They don't care. They are only jealous of Lumi's success.<div class="xa23b"><span class="xa23t"></span><span class="xa23i"></span></div>

yellow woman defence force lmao lol

>>46437348
The astroturfing on this thread is insane man.

>>46437273
Yes anon, using someone model without permission is wrong, especially when you're under a corpo.

I actually like Lumi and don't watch the other Vtubers, but she's a dumbass for doing this. I'm not gonna defend it because it's funny or some "she can do no wrong" attitude.

>>46437469
Emma does still use the same model

>>46437469
Doesn't make it right to just steal them.

>>46437348
it's mindblowing how dedicated these faggots are to defending a company.
for fucking free.
truly the next console war board.

>>46437469
It doesn't matter the reasoning, I don't think Lumi using them is a big deal at all but she's still objectively in the wrong for doing it

>>46437506
>steal
Kill yourself retard.

>>46437348
Lose some weight, Hylo.

>>46426158
Lemon woman is good but the veibae model is not.

>>46426158
What a joke of a company lol
Cant wait to see phaseniggers defend her for this one

>>46437057
I'd say Lumi doing something that was very obviously going to ignite old drama that everybody had moved on from for no good reason definitely puts her in the wrong here, regardless of what the other side did. It's not like they all went after her again suddenly while she was minding her own business.

>>46437552
How was the chicken?

>>46437506
can you explain how they were "stolen"?

>>46437479
>astroturfing
Yeah that's right bitch. Make stealing become accepted in vtubing

>>46437600
just scroll up, it's already happening.
phase jannies are working overtime today

This is the dumbest shit ever. It's like if Nazuna used her hololive model for April's fools. Are any of you dumbasses actually not seeing the problem with this? Are you that into walmart veibae?
This thing did not hurt anybody: doesn't mean it wasn't retarded and illegal.

>>46437214
>Showing abandoned models on stream for 30 seconds for an April Fools joke harmed nobody
Pretty sure several of them are still actively using those models

>>46437497
Well I will, I don't actually care about some literal whos getting upset.

>>46437555
After you

why is Hylo like this? why are women like this?

>>46437625
where did she "steal" them from? if you send me a picture of your face and i put it on my stream, did I steal that picture?

>>46437558
Reign in your doxxfaggot boyfriend lumi. Also delete the stolen models

Lumi's response to the situation

https://youtube.com/shorts/c6sngCNpdlI?feature=share

>ask yellow woman to not use the models that they own that she has a copies of
>people defend lemonade

She should have stuck to using the models of the ones that are dead instead of the ones that are still streaming as a common courtesy.

>>46437612
Honestly true. It's like throwing a rock through someone's window and then being confused on why they're mad. Why would you want old drama to be reignited? That sounds exhausting and annoying as fuck.

>>46437723
Failed at being a Vtuber and failed at being a decent person.

>>46430704
Let me guess, not phase connect? So is phase connect stealing other companies assets now?

>>46437612
>very obviously going to ignite old drama
No reasonable person would have any problems with someone using their model for a quick joke on April Fool's.

>>46435885
Lmao you gorilla nigger. You don't understand women at all.<div class="xa23b"><span class="xa23t"></span><span class="xa23i"></span></div>

>>46437594

>>46437723
>why is she like this? why is she upset that someone she's not on good terms with uses her model because she used to be a manager at a now defunct company? i totally wouldn't be mad if that was me!

>>46437677
One of them at best. The other even commented on stream about how she doesn't use it anymore and added emoji.

>>46437761
You will never be successful at anything you do, Hylo.

>>46426158
Phase going down the shitter, next is kikecorp and that shitty dual colored menhera jew slave.<div class="xa23b"><span class="xa23t"></span><span class="xa23i"></span></div>

>>46437817
was the artist even trying?<div class="xa23b"><span class="xa23t"></span><span class="xa23i"></span></div>

I'm siding with lumi because this was hilarious, Idgaf about the morals<div class="xa23b"><span class="xa23t"></span><span class="xa23i"></span></div>

YOU WOULDN'T DOWNLOAD A VTUBER

>>46437775
No, it's like throwing a soft foam rock at their window and wondering why they're mad. Sure you shouldn't be throwing anything at their house, but why are they upset over something so insignificant?

>>46437825
who are you quoting?

>>46437855
She intentionally chose Neonbeat.
It's like she REALLY wanted to be a Veibae clone.

>>46437855
Blame Lumi for not asking for the face to get changed up.

>>46437600
Go look in their general if you want a laugh, it's actually embarrassing

>>46437878
Lumi would

You want to know who was conspicuously missing from this barrage of model usage? Pandora. Okay, she's a 2view as well, but why not use the old ones?

Here's a hint: the menhera saviorbait panda is friends with Kiara.

On the surface, that's nothing. But recall who Lumi is also friends with. Peari/[REDACTED]. I have NO idea if there's still bad blood between the Orange Teuton and the Pear of No Streams but certainly, many years ago, their respective stans on Tumblr were at each others' throats for a reason. Kiara, I'd be willing to bet, dislikes Lumi and Phase out of the box so Lumi would not DARE piss off the panda.

Or I'm just overthinking things, but it's still an odd thing that didn't happen.

>>46437600
they're already here

>>46437665
I'm surprised nobody's cottoned onto this quite yet.

>>46437855
Lumi even chose the cat pupils and the fangs

>>46437885
The voices

>>46426158
Phase Connect really is a company filled entirely with pieces of shit. That's why I actually find it insulting when I see Phasebeggars saying "Hey you should join Phase" to some corpo that just quit. It basically means hey, we think you're scum of the earth. Well, I'm sure Phaseshitters think it's a compliment to be a part of Phase, but it means that they think the person they're begging for is of a similar caliber to Phase's pile of garbage. And anyone with sense would be insulted by that. To my relief, Lisa actually was.

>pippa
>this woman
are all phase connect chuubas actively unpleasant drama chasers
sasuga pippa company

>>46437665
>It's like if Nazuna used her hololive model for April's fools.
That's completely different you fucking troglodyte.
>>46437768
They didn't ask her though. They made it public right away and went straight to management.

>>46437882
Because they're not actually upset. They literally couldn't give a shit. They're just using this as an excuse to attack Lumi over an april fools joke because she succeeded as Vtuber and they failed.

>>46437948
Based

>>46437753
I didn't give you consent to use my image so what does that make you?

>>46437896
>>46437916
>>46437937
so the Veibaefication is already in the late stages, she actually believes she's Vei...

>>46437948
HOLY FUCKING BASED I KNEEL

>>46437825
>You did something I did not like and instead of dming a mod, I will as a woman, make the biggest deal I can possibly for attention and because they're more successful than me.

>>46437954
Pankos good, phase fans hate her for being chill instead of being an ADHD fueling hyper sperg

>>46437948
I am also trans BTW.

>>46437980
can your editor salary be enough for you to afford tickets to New York, Smug?

>>46436911
no, Hylo is just pleasantly plump, you fucking misogynist
>captcha mgv0pp

>>46437954
The women seething didn't even wait for Lumi to stop stream before bitching about it on twitter.

>>46438010
could be worse, there's a Lumi skinwalker trying to be Lumi trying to be Veibae

>>46438062
No they don't, stop spreading shit

>>46437792
>No reasonable person would have any problems with somebody that they're not on good terms with using their stuff without permission
I think you'll find that's actually a perfectly reasonable reaction. I imagine if you were in a similar position you would also not be happy with it.

>>46438107
she is in the early stages of guntification
its only a matter of time before the thing hangs low

>>46438053
>You have been called out of your blatant shit. I will as a woman, will not apologize and just delete said shit but will place the blame on you.

>>46438062
cool maybe i'll check her out when/if she moves out of this crackhouse
>>46438117
>bait drama
>get drama

This board really is like 50% women huh
Why would anyone care about this

>>46426158
I like Lumi but yeah, theres nothing wrong with this request. Although am sure she could had tried a bit harder to DM her cause this just comes as drama baiting from her part.

>>46438053
>Dm person involved
>Get ghosted
>Cope by telling yourself it's the right thing to do

>>46429405
This is like a woman vs woman #metoo top fucking kek I might actually watch Lumi now

>>46437981
>Example of someone using a model for which they do not own the rights
>"No anon it's not like this present case of someone using a model for which they do not own the rights"
>Refuses to elaborate
Maybe if PC gives you a raise you'll put efforts in your rebuttals retard.

>>46437665
If it doesn't hurt anybody then what's the problem? The only thing this does is make vtweeters seethe so that's a good thing in my book.

>>46426158
That was really dumb of Lumi, but this seems like the sort of thing that would be easy to settle in private. Even if she can't DM lumi directly it's not like it's hard to get in contact with fishman.

>>46438217
>blatant shit
Funny ass shit* lmao seeth
>>46438277
You don't know what ghosted means, how discord works, or how to read a screenshot.

>>46438053
you fucking nigger they all know her mods because they used to be in the same company and these are the same people who used to do shit for cyberlive
this shit is highschool drama at this point but there's barely anything that the girls could do to make it look better, don't forget that hylo posted discord logs of her trying to contact lumi and she got ghosted
and that's before we get into the problem of how fucked up all of their relations are due to the aftermath of cyberlive
it's like you're retarded on purpose

>doxbeats
wow who could've guessed

>phase gets called out
>instant doxxing by the resident kiwifags
And you wonder why nobody wants you anywhere in the industry

>>46438304
Who is the vtweeter in this situation? They all stream.

>supposedly "hates" Lumi
>gives her a bunch of free publicity
I'm a better anti than these dumb ex-CL bitches by doing literally nothing

>>46438259
Lumi doing this in the first place is pretty blatantly dramabaiting in and of itself

>>46438348
>she got ghosted
please see >>46438340

>>46438401
but... you just replied

>>46438368
>>46438369
She has a public onlyfans linked on her twitter.

Its April 1st, idiots.

ITT: seething failed vtubers

How to spot hylo and co
>any mentions of "doxxfag bf" or sei
Hylo, I know you haven't been /here/ in awhile, and you don't realize the Name field is different than a title, but please get with the times. If you need something to falseflag with please reference the following
>veibae clone
>xalabussy
>smugd0ka
>yellow woman
I hope these terms can help your disguise, because its painful to see through it right now. Like... actually painful.

https://twitter.com/fujikuuruka/status/1642316550442192896
And it keeps getting worse... On her birthday too
Phaseniggers will defend this

Remember next time you see a phase fan saying your oshi should be poached to phase that their fanbase is full of filthy doxxers who lash out at the slightest implication that their goddesses maybe made a little slip up in judgement

>>46438401
Publicity from who? She isn't gonna gain viewers from this.

I shouldn't be surprised that phase shitters are actively defending this and yet here I am. This is why even as nijis and holos war with each other, we all still agree that you guys are the cancer of this board. I'd rather talk to a nijinigger all day than spend a single minute with a phase cuck

>>46438277
Sending DMs to person involved on fancord where you know you're blocked is kind of retaded, you know. Just join Phase discord and DM management directly. Or at least wait for stream to finish if you're waiting for an answer, ok?

>>46438186
>I think some retarded bullshit
I wouldn't care, and they don't either. They are seething because Lumi became successful. This is just a way to get attention. That's all there is to it. And if they did have actually something against her using their models, then they should try to talk to her directly and privately before going on twitter.
>>46438297
Nazuna can't use her old model not because of copyright, but because of her NDA. Lumi didn't violate any copyright, because it was fair use. Do you understand it now?

>>46438472
lol I thought the Finana thing was a dumpsterfire but this is a strong contender

Can someone point to a QRD I'm too lazy to open the pictures or twitter<div class="xa23b"><span class="xa23t"></span><span class="xa23i"></span></div>

>>46438472
>antis and shit stirrers instantly and irrevocably btfo
i fucking kneel

>>46438533
anon she publicly posted her face an hour ago on twitter

>>46438472
Holy fuck and here I thought uruka would be the sane one in this debacle.

>>46438519
>Phasecucks defense force in the comments
Kek

>>46438480
Yoi think this entire thing is an elaborate april fools by everyone involved?

>>46438007
Nothing. Just like you're not a thief for watching a YT video, showing random twitter art, or playing a videogame on stream, both things maybe .001% of all streamers have permission to do. At worst it makes me a jerk.

>>46438584
Lumi from phase connect stole vtubing assets from when she was a manager in the other company

>>46438472
I'm glad this is fake because I didn't want to have to shit on Uruka for being a dramabaiting whore too

>>46438472
I fucking love sadgirl company so much bros, the only people making April fools actually funny

>>46438584
it's a joke
>>46438472
but seething and coping will continue itt anyway

>>46438452
Shit..... you're right. I guess i'm a card carrying Lumination member after all

>>46438628
I hope so

>>46438472
How to kill any remaining good image

>>46438519
At first I didn't see Hylo or that other person's point but now I see it. I hope they punish Lumi now.

>>46438569
>Most retarded explanation I've ever heard in my life
If you sincerly believe that it's acutally the NDA that prevents her from doing that, you are not worth any more time from anybody in this thread and in your life.

>>46438628
Yes.

>>46438472
Actual middle school tier rebuttal to defend her galpal, panko really was the only good thing to come out of phase

>>46438472
Uruka I kneel<div class="xa23b"><span class="xa23t"></span><span class="xa23i"></span></div>

How are you retards gonna call this stealing? They 100 had shared these files beforehand

>>46438584
Lumi used models she had access to because she used to be a manager at Cyberlive, a shitshow company that died and it's a good thing but the contracts allowed every talent to keep their models, just like Lumi did
and now she basically shat on that premise and abused her old manager privileges and used these models without the other girls' permission
it's looking pretty bad because big names are getting involved like Miori and Chibi

>>46438472
>>46438519
Phase fans are gonna call this based, but this honestly seems pretty bitchy to do.

>>46438826
>it's looking pretty bad because big names are getting involved like Miori and Chibi
They can cope and sneed along with the failed talents

>>46438826
>big names like Miori and Chibi
LMAO

>>46438826
they're not "getting involved", they're dropping a quick "dam bro that sucks" comment and completely forgetting about it.

>>46438584
>PC member Lumi used to be in Cyberlive
>Lumi used to double as a manager when the company was going under, so probably has a bunch of old assets
>She and another member left because the rest of the talents formed a mean girls clique and shit talked her constantly
>Took 70% of the companies revenue with her, causing CL to die shortly thereafter
>Other members are now eternally seething failures, while Lumi has found success
>Lumi uses some old assets from said seething failures for 30 seconds on stream as an April fools joke
>Failures immediately take to twitter to bitch and moan

>>46438873
Based

>>46438826
hi hylo or other cyberlive ex member
seriously stop this is so embarrassing that I can point out which posts are you guys LMAOOOOOOO

>>46438826
Holy shit Mori got involved? Get fucked Phase cucks

>>46438519
>Making a le epic joke account to own the haters that just makes Uruka look bad
The absolute state of Phasenigs

>>46438873
>>46438751
>>46438689
It's fake, dumbbell

>>46438472
jej

>>46438889
canadian hands typed this post
>>46438913
british hands typed this post

do you think your 12 fans would approve of you character assassinating vtubers on /vt/ hylo?

>>46438965
Yes, it's fucking stupid and bitchy as her fan to post that. Good job making the situation worse for your Oshi.

>>46438913
>>46438826
>>46438678
>>46438662
Naruhodo thanks for the QRDs it's wild what milquetoast shit indies worry about. Happy april fools.

>>46438472
She cant keep getting away with it

>>46438913
Wait she stole 70% of their money? No wonder they aren't on good terms. This is so fucked up

>>46438873
bitches of a feather and all that

>>46438965
>its fake that makes it good
Retard

>>46439033
They're too busy jerking off to her fleshpics
because that's the only entertaining thing she can produce

>>46439049
It's funny. Remember what day it is?

>>46439112
What is funny about making a twitter account just to shit on Hylo pretending to be Uruka?

>>46439096
>Wait she stole 70% of their money?
It's phrased confusingly. She was one of their best talents, and so her leaving reduced their earnings by 70%.

Why didn't she use Menace's model? surely she had that too...?

>>46439096
Lumi just lucked out on a few barons because she had a secret groomcord.

>>46439112
>Impersonating someone to insert them into drama and possibly get them flamed.

H-hilarious...

>>46438678
>it's a joke
Not when management actually replied to hylo. This would only mean that:
>Lumi didn't ask hylo for permission to use said model
>Lumi didn't ask management if she could use other vtuber models
Bitch move altogether. Suspension imminent if this is a proper company but it is widely known that lumi would just suck her way out of this.<div class="xa23b"><span class="xa23t"></span><span class="xa23i"></span></div>

>>46439214
She did.

>>46434018
Fuck off landwhale, getting worked up on your keyboard doesn’t count as exercise believe it or not.

>>46439195
Its phrased correctly. She stole company funds to buy her 3D<div class="xa23b"><span class="xa23t"></span><span class="xa23i"></span></div>

>>46439272
>She stole company funds
Impossible. Cyberlive didn't have any funds.

You know none of this matters and it will be forgotten in like week at most

>>46436239
>only 2 replies
kek spot on

>>46439248

>>46439248
Anons want them to have total 100% freedom, which is funny because I thought that concept was looked down upon with the whole TALENT FREEDOM meme.

Any other company and this would be a suspension immediately.

>>46439348
Le
>nothingburger
Did the defense well hit rock bottom?

>>46439272
the funds were gone when the company got abandoned and the merch money was stolen by the previous manager

>>46439248
Phase connects words mean as much as a turd on a sidewalk

>>46438608
They're still doxxing her

>>46439248
Suspension? She'll get a half-assed forced apology, at worst. A Suspension may be a better idea though, the money and inevitable publicity stunt she'd make on her return would just boost the company more

>>46438826
Miori, despite her inflated subcount, is tiny by en vtuber standards.<div class="xa23b"><span class="xa23t"></span><span class="xa23i"></span></div>

>>46439471
>post a picture of your face publicly on your vtuber twitter account
>someone else reposting it is doxxing
ogey

>>46439471
Anon we're busy sniffing Airi's feet, leave us be
>>46439550
It's just like when we dox Kevin

>>46439248
Phase doesn't do suspensions

>>46439550
if that was just that one photo then sure. but they're reposting from a different, paywalled site.

>>46439400
Nah, that is when they start copying your posts with a basedjack which will be in the next thread

>>46439096
She didn't steal 70%. She was 70% of the income.

>>46438608
is she pretty

>>46439611
They should.
If Lumi gets away with this then this company is lost.

>>46439471
She's so desperate to show off her RM that she posted face reveal even thought her donothon didn't reach that goal. Nobody sane would call that doxxing.

>>46439637
That's not what I heard
>>46439272

>>46439613
don't be a whore and sell pictures of yourself wearing only a bra and panties if you don't want people to see them. it's really that easy

yab is upon us
pray for yellow woman

This thread is a really good demonstration of why people hate Phase Connect fans. Lumi doing something retarded is one thing, but her fans going fucking rabid defending her and shitting their pants over anybody having even a moderate opinion on this is something else.

>>46434995
Wow the fucking bitch even did it to Emma who is a sweet heart. Fuck that bitch.

>>46439613
paywalled site doesn't make it private info. It's not doxxing it's pirating.

>>46439613
Link your OF femanon. I'm sure at least one anon will buy it

>>46439770
This post glows more than Lumi the star does.

>>46439760
It was funny and the seething is funnier.

>>46439666
I don't think so, not many people are going to care within a week.

For maximum seethe Lumi should have skinwalked as Mori or another Holo talent. I guarantee you that nobody in Hololive would have minded at all despite everyone here bitching about it.

>>46439666
No it's fine, none of phase's fans care, who are the only people who matter.

>>46439770
Phasenigs will lump Emma in with the other bitches even though she was the only one who told them all to just move on from the whole Lumi drama and stop bitching about her.

>>46439760
expecting any kind of good takes from phasefags when it comes to defending this is a fools hope