/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

/#/ is declining

>wasting your precious weekend shitposting on /#/
care to explain?

>>46419343
>declining

Final chart for Kronii. Still has a good karaoke ceiling, but it slightly underperforms compared to IRyS's and Mumei's last karaokes. And if anyone asks, yes it performs better than any Fauna karaoke but that's to be expected<div class="xa23b"><span class="xa23t"></span><span class="xa23i"></span></div>

>>46419399
In IQ

clockgods run this thread

>>46419343
hey man

* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY *
>56,531: Toya (Nijisanji)
>54,244: Suisei (Hololive)
>48,577: Ririmu (Nijisanji)
>46,785: Fubuki (Hololive)
>39,849: Miko (Hololive)
>39,541: Kanata (Hololive)
>31,720: Sakuyui (Nijisanji)
>29,486: Yorumi (Nijisanji)
>27,514: Marine (Hololive)
>26,960: Fubuki (Hololive)
>26,727: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>26,561: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>26,308: Pekora (Hololive)
>24,456: Subaru (Hololive)
>20,498: Korone (Hololive)
>19,256: Subaru (Hololive)
>18,677: Chiroru (Indie)
>17,448: Ui (Indie)
>17,034: Furen (Nijisanji)
>15,489: Koyori (Hololive)
>14,851: Fuwa (Nijisanji)
>14,741: Gaku (Nijisanji)
>14,148: Lui (Hololive)
>13,594: Noel (Hololive)
>13,566: Towa (Hololive)
>13,523: Okayu (Hololive)
>13,035: Watame (Hololive)
>12,999: Nene (Hololive)
>12,022: Nerumero (Indie)
>11,947: Met (VSPO)
>11,892: Iroha (Hololive)
>11,607: Towa (Hololive)
>11,117: Iroha (Hololive)
>11,113: Koyori (Hololive)
>11,075: Kobo (Hololive)
>10,776: Lauren (Nijisanji)
>10,762: Ritsuki (Nijisanji)
>10,729: Bae (Hololive)

are these good numbers for males?<div class="xa23b"><span class="xa23t"></span><span class="xa23i"></span></div>

>>46419414
saplings... why don't you watch Fauna's karaokes?

>>46419388
it's EU

>>46419306
>>46419334
Holy sexxo

Kroniis hate kiara where did they go

>>46419233
If she is not up to the job then she should apply in the first place.

>>46419468
Fauna is THE worst singer in HoloEN and had the worse performance during 4th fes.

>>46419414
Is done at a complete different timeslot tough. I would add that

Ok hear me out: Pikamee in Phase Connect as a fire themed girl
>>46417796

>>46419504
No one wants to watch someone make a fucking corn pizza. Feel free to cringe at it all you want but I'm avoiding that shit like the plague<div class="xa23b"><span class="xa23t"></span><span class="xa23i"></span></div>

>kroni gets number
>timeloops of cover shouldbt have hired her starts
Is just so biring by now.

>>46419510
...I mean she did

JP7 on the 27th.

>>46419570
Eh, there's a lot of factors to consider
>timeslot, guerilla
But
>weekend, return stream, rarity
You can choose what to put more stock in, personally I think the buffs and debuffs balance out

>>46419504
Nobody wants to watch a shitty cooking stream, and nobody wants to watch Kiara in general.

*FINAL EN TALLY OF THE DAY*

>4/1 DAILY TALLY
10,729: Baelz (Hololive)
7,824: Luca (Nijisanji)
7,156: Kiara (Hololive)
5,226: Maria (Nijisanji)


>EN GOLDS FOR APRIL 2023
1) Baelz (Hololive) - 10,729 - Unarchived Karaoke

>PER COMPANY
1x: Hololive

>PER STREAMER
1x: Baelz

>POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)
5p: Baelz
3p: Luca
1p: Kiara

>>46419577
Is this another poached talent or is this an actual solo debut? Kind of weird to debut them during a con.

>>46419467
Male Koreans? Honestly no idea

>>46419646
Cheers mate, I'm not that slushed yet though but I'm getting there

Enna's average is much lower than her peak-average.
That's because her peak-average is a result of being raided and boosted constantly. Her channel has actually imploded in the last month.

Also Pippa is now competitive with the likes of Pomu and Selen.

>>46419691
>2023 EN GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
62x: Hololive
27x: Nijisanji
2x: Holostars

>PER STREAMER
9x: Mori
8x: IRyS
7x: Amelia, Baelz
6x: Vox, Mumei, Fauna, Ina, Gura
3x: Mysta, Pomu, Kiara, Kronii, Shu
2x: Selen
1x: Ike, Flayon, Alban, Elira, Luxiem, Finana, Millie, Luca, Regis, Enna, Rosemi, Hololive English, Ren

>2023 POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)
76p: Fauna
65p: IRyS
60p: Baelz
59p: Ina
58p: Mumei
57: Mori
53p: Vox, Amelia
40p: Mysta
32p: Kiara
30p: Gura
29p: Luca
22p: Kronii
18p: Selen
17p: Shu
16p: Pomu
11p: Uki
10p: Axel
9p: Millie, Enna, Ike
8p: Finana
7p: Regis
6p: Elira, Rosemi, Ren
5p: Flayon, Alban, Luxiem, Hololive English
4p: Vesper, Fulgur
3p: Sonny, Hakka, Magni
1p: Meloco, Shinri, Gavis, Maria, Pippa, Nina

>>46419504
Kiara caught a decent funnel though.

So, the HoloEN collab. Will it get over 20K? It doesn't have Gura but it does have Kronii.

>>46419466
today is niji win*!
(*)clearly botted by the end of the stream

>>46419691
EN tally is really depressing. Most of the day there are less than 5 entries. What is the point of it now?

>>46419752
>Pippa is now competitive with the likes of Pomu and Selen.
She really found a foothold

>>46419772
>the runts have the most golds

>>46419781
Kronii is debuff on collabs with no males

>>46419782
Which she already lost.

>>46418568
Because Kronii and Sana clearly had trouble figuring out what the fuck kind of content they want to create while the others don’t? The others might be shitters too, but at least they seem to know what their viewers want and found a niche making content they want to make.
Bae’s the one trying to do JP variety stream-type content. Fauna’s the comfy mommytuber who keeps a regular schedule. Mumei’s the derpy autist with a taste for horror and a shitty attention span. They know it and they’re happy with that, so that’s fine.
Sana was…beeg, liked bread, and was also an artist who never did art streams. Kronii…has a deep voice and an avatar with big tits and built the bunkeronii, all of which she doesn’t like. The only thing she seems to enjoy is collabing with males, which as I said in my spoiler, I genuinely don’t care about. But that’s bad for Council and clearly not Cover’s intention when they hired her.

So Tenma's scooping up that ruski audience.

Holy fuck the schizo is still awake.
Btw, is Ratna an airhead?

>>46419752
March was crazy for Pippa but I don't think she can maintain that higher of average for April.

>>46419845
Well pipa does mostly reaction content so she has an edge there

>>46419781
kronii buff easy 30k<div class="xa23b"><span class="xa23t"></span><span class="xa23i"></span></div>

>>46419781
what channels is it on?

>>46419889
Can you superchat a washing machine?

>>46419691
>Bae gold
MATING PRESS is on the menu.

>>46419467
I would have expected them to attract more of the kpop fandom, seeing as these guys look like the male equivalent of Isegye Idol. Maybe the global audience just isn't aware yet. I didn't know who they were until they started getting mentioned in this thread recently, but they look like they've been at it for months.

>>46419973
Ina
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XCgVISU5-c

>>46419886 (me)
Just realized I made reference to an earlier post of mine that wasn’t in the reply chain. By “spoiler”, I mean the spoiler in this post >>46419233 (me)

>>46419781
Kronii ruined it by wasting her return buff right now, sub 20k

>>46419886
Kronii really don't need to think much about what kind of content her viewers want. They wanted to hear more of her voice than anything else, so anything that involved her voice like singing, zatsudan or voice acting is fine. However she is shit at every single one of those and worse, she never wanted to improve herself on any of those because she knows the money will keep coming with minimal effort from herself.

>>46419880
>she already lost
But she kept it.

>>46420087
>Ina
>weekend
20k shouldnt be a problem

>>46420087
takos are desperate 22k

>>46419705
>invader
Should be easy to guess just from the silhouette, but no one did therefore it's a new chuuba.

>>46419886
Kys mommyfag

>>46415264
Ahhh, ouch. The timing could NOT have been worse for them here, kek.
https://youtu.be/APKFOO1uoTQ?t=6213
Team #13 and Team #19 were comprised of randos and listeners they had gathered to fill in the practice lobby for the informal customs (I think the rule is, you can play 1 game and then you have to leave).
There's a "Pichu" in Team #19 which they make a joke about leaving (https://youtu.be/APKFOO1uoTQ?t=6257).).
> oh no Pichu!
> bye bye Pichu
You can see in global chat the admins asking #13 and #19 to leave.

Poor Gamma IMMEDIATELY joined the #19 slot that these folks had left. And he's not well known so the entire team naturally assumed he was another listener trying to squeeze in to the game (ironically the admins were trying to make space for Gamma's team to join).

> Everyone in the lobby leaves, topic successfully changed
This was just all the listeners in the lobby just deciding to leave together, possibly because they saw what was typed in global chat and understood the mistake? Maybe?
That may be why Ratna Petit and her team were thanking them, calling them all of them nice people, and chat was praising their moral conduct (民度).
> You guys, will definitely have good things happen for you for all of next week! - Naruse

They should honestly have shut the hell up after this, since it's a genuine misunderstanding, but they made it worse than needed by running their mouth and trying to justify the fuckup (>>46415793).

Still, I don't expect much to come of this, considering it's Holostars.

>>46420221
we love Fauna mommy here

>>46420203
I just hope that she's healthy

>>46420087
buffs
>Ina Channel
>no Calli
debuff
>Kronii

>>46420127
From he statement after the homo fiasco, she doesn't even see this as job and is more interested in having fun with friends then anything else. She will never improved because she doesn't take this seriously.

>>46420124
True

>>46420298
1. Kronii's a buff for group collabs
2. >Calli

The problem with the EN girls (that # is complaining right now) is that they only think about "what I want to stream today(or this week/this month)" instead of "which content will entertain the viewers the most if I stream". All they talk about are their own mental or physical health but never about the obligation to their viewers regarding contents.<div class="xa23b"><span class="xa23t"></span><span class="xa23i"></span></div>

>>46420127
she's decent at zatsu's she literally just talks constantly when she plays games. She just doesn't really do talking streams outside of superchat readings though

>>46419845
Rin the Idol girl is having another 2k stream
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsKaA_M6_xw

Don't know how much this will last, but they're competing directly before moving on to HoloEN levels.

>>46420127
I absolutely believe this. The last time I watched a Kronii stream to see what it was like, it was so boring I even posted in /infinity/ asking if I came in at a bad time. Almost everyone agreed that it was typical of her solo content. One kronie even told me not to force myself and that Kronii isn’t for everyone.
I’m going to give the benefit of the doubt and assume that those anons had more reasons for watching her, but it sure makes sense that all the surplus CCVs are from tourists who only give a shit about her voice.<div class="xa23b"><span class="xa23t"></span><span class="xa23i"></span></div>

>>46420256
Hope one day holostars break into the mainstream like bts so all the people who hate the bois can finally be put in their place.

>>46420298
The only debuff there is IRyS.

>>46420333
All the more reason I think she shouldn't stay in hololive.

>>46420087
I thought Gura was going to be in the collab? Is she doing anything for April fool's then?

>>46419878
Kronii is only a debuff when she is not with one of her pairings, Fauna and IRyS are in this collab so she is a buff

>>46416901
I only know veibae iron mouse and nyanners so I said vshojo just to cover all of them because they already existed before, definitely my bad. I didn’t say debut separately it’s just the fact of the matter had she debuted with council they still would have succeeded and if they debuted without gura they wouldn’t be nearly as popular. Could gura do it by herself maybe. None of them could do it without her though and none of them have the attitude or charisma to have exploded or keep from falling. They can’t keep from falling now and they have gura. But for arguments sake though lets say no gura and Mori exploded as the fastest vtuber to 1million subs ecelebs all trying to get a collab with her what happens next to mori and by extension myth. She couldn’t even handle trash taste

>>46420256
Stop bringing up topics from the previous thread faggot.

>>46419414
How about it being COMPLETELY FUCKING GUERILLA?
And I fucking missed it?
Why does Kronii do this to me?

>>46419886
I unironically think Sana didnt want to encroach on Ina's established territory.

>>46419938
She is growing constantly anon. I don't think she's peaked out yet. She's going to be holo-tier if she doubles again. She's been doubling every 2 months so it shouldn't be long

>>46420401
>unarchived
If she has a normal stream that hit 2k then we can talk shop, otherwise she still has something to prove before you can say she competes with the bigger NijiEN girls

>>46420475
>Ina also stopped doing art streams

>>46419504
no one likes Kiara

>>46420256
nijiniggers didn't even know the other contestants and went ape
>who even is hizaki gamma?
>must be a listener idk www
they don't have excuse because they explicitly laughed at him
then even their chat was like
>seriously? he's a holostar
and that was when they started trying to save face

>>46420401
I wonder why she needs to put 'shark' in the title...

>>46420382
>constant talking = great at zatsu
Doesn't work like that. She never talk about any important stuff just inane chatting, worse than Bae's screaming and bouncing of random comment in her chat.

Just face it, she lucked into this job with her voice but never appreciate the opportunity and improve herself to be on par with her (not EN) senpais.<div class="xa23b"><span class="xa23t"></span><span class="xa23i"></span></div>

>>46420475
Maybe, but she clearly demonstrated with her roommate that what she wanted to do was play chink gachas.

>>46419669
>weekend, return stream, rarity
None of that fucking matter if nobody knows it's happening.

How long will we get Irys 3D

>>46420546
I mean you don't go full ham retarded once you know it's a holo even if he's new and a shitter, then you're just asking for it

>>46420584
>gura killer

>>46420401
It's not actually clickbait, damn
Also she's surprisingly good at keeping the audience entertained, she could be the next star of chuubing if she has the consistency to do the same every stream and the mentality to weather anti attacks.

>>46419510
It's on Cover to filter out people who can't handle the job, not the applicant who's just trying to get the bag

>>46420298
smol 3d isn't a buff anymore? did the overuse it that nuch?

>>46420584
>#Hololive

>>46413424
She doesn't play FPS games normally but no way she was more bitchy than say Ame, she's also one of the few EN members that would finish her games on a regular basis, perhaps the only one.

Anyway Kiara was always too open and direct for autistic Vtuber fan standards, she doesn't really play any character even when she keeps referencing her lore and doing other stuff that JP girls do but you will immedietely know if she had a bad day while members like Fauna would rarely talk about their feelings especially if they're not possitive or keep it for members rather than randomly sharing with everyone in the middle of a gaming stream.

>>46420658
Hey hey I see what you did there anon.....

>>46420546
You have been on this for 2 threads now. Explain to me why should I care about the homos or niji or what happened between their fans?

>>46420256
For me, only Naruse and Naraka are being rude and unapologetic here. The other two are forgivable since they just do not know.

>>46420631
I've already considered it being a guerilla stream, and we've seen enough guerilla karaokes to know that they aren't massive debuffs

>>46420634
-13 days

>>46420455
She put the frame up like for 15 mins

>>46420712
Be the change you want to be, what topic do you want to discuss? And no timeloops

>>46419752
>Meica
Isn't that...?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KL6CpZ06wfo
>The SP PNG tuber, former Wactor star.
Her model has live 2D animations already as well as mouth triggers, plus, she's a legacy but it's not full tracking, does she count already?

>>46420712
nijiseethe

>>46419886
>Sana was…beeg, liked bread, and was also an artist who never did art streams.
Sana had potential to be an excellent streamer she just didn't unless her full power until it was to late.
>Kronii…has a deep voice and an avatar
Kronii wants to be a voice actor and this is something you would knew if you actually watched her

>>46420445
From Ina's video description. Obviously that doesn't mean there can't be more people.<div class="xa23b"><span class="xa23t"></span><span class="xa23i"></span></div>

>>46420664
are you getting paid overtime to jewshill on the weekend, retarded internkun?<div class="xa23b"><span class="xa23t"></span><span class="xa23i"></span></div>

So anyone want to bet that Gura won't have 5 streams this month? Considering that she has to go back to Japan again with Ina.<div class="xa23b"><span class="xa23t"></span><span class="xa23i"></span></div>

>>46420733
It depends on how much notice you give.
This was pretty much zero.
Streaming out of your usual timeslot with a complete unexpected guerilla, it's a miracle she broke 10k.

>>46420616
>She never talk about any important stuff just inane chatting
Sounds like you never actual watched her streams then. Lmao keep seething while making up facts

>>46420584
>>46420658
>>46420680
There's literally a shark singing.

>>46419504
why would holo watchers funnel into a niji?

>>46420451
These are much more reasonable points. Overall, I agree with you on most of them. But I still think you’re underplaying the significance of the blue Dorito. A better way of putting it might have been to imagine if say, Tsunderia had Cover money and debuted the exact same vtubers with the exact same models and rm I’m using them as an example because they were one of the first western corpos. Gura would probably be popular, but there would be a huge gap that you can only really explain through Cover.
The significance of Holomyth being a “legitimate” vtuber gen because it was backed by one of the biggest JP corpos in the world cannot be dismissed. Gura played a big part in backing up that hype during their debuts, but she got a boost from Cover. Which isn’t a bad thing.

>>46420667
I keep hearing this as an excuse for Kronii but it is not easy for company to know whether your candidates will be hardworking or lazy down the line. She got the opportunity but chose to sit on it and collecting money. Sana at least has the decency to leave because she knew the job is not for her.

>>46419752
Soon we will have a Pippa line to complement the Kiara line.

>>46420835
>>46420851
>>46420866
>3 bot combo
RARE

>>46420445
Ame is in it so no.<div class="xa23b"><span class="xa23t"></span><span class="xa23i"></span></div>

>>46420678
there's still some buff but not as much as there used to be

>>46420401
>Next color planet
LET'S GOOOOO

>>46420546
They should try that on Astel, would be funny seeing him go full menhera on them.

>>46420835
>>46420851
>>46420866
three in a row, damn luck bots<div class="xa23b"><span class="xa23t"></span><span class="xa23i"></span></div>

>>46420475
we will never know what Sana wanted to do with her character to begin with. All of her initial ideas flopped/got rejected by management and then she never tried to do anything new

>>46420712
why wouldn't the participants of the tournament know who are they playing with? it's been literally more than a month now you fucking nigger
they spent a fucking whole announcement stream just to make this clear and unlike nijiniggers, holos would never bully a participant to leave the tournament

>>46419886
>Fauna
>mommy
>Mumei
>horror
AAAAAH I hate clipfags so much. Mumei has played like 1 horror game over the last 6 months. She has practically dropped the schizo person

>>46419504
>Twitter box

>>46420803
I *know* she wants to be a voice actor, dumbass. That’s why I’m shitting on her for doing less and less voice acting as part of her content. My whole point is that Kronii doesn’t seem to have any idea why she’s in Hololive other than to leech off the brand name.

>>46420916
3 DDOOORRYYYAAAAAAA

>>46420961
Don't be jealous. You can join next bot train.

>>46420875
She never talked in-depth about her tiger mom. She never talked about the movies or shows she watch. She never talked about her friends or even her trips in depth. She just talks and talks and talks about the streams and the chat which basically touches nothing about her true self. I've seen people holding good conversation without talking about themselves and Kronii's "zatsu" is not it.

>>46420803
Bae has done more voice acting stuff than Kronii though
Not that it's been incredibly successful, mind, but Kronii could do stuff like that if she wanted

>>46420786
Yes well I do sometimes leave the computer anon.

>>46420961
>t. samefagging bot

>>46420880
What does her character has anything to do with shark?
I'm looking for a connection here

>>46420997
There are a lot of unsavory individuals out there and I don't care about them, I wouldn't do it right now.

>>46420412
Weren't they got bashed because one of their members had a very bad live voice? They were bashed by all fandoms right now cause usually their fandom likes to insults other fandoms

>>46420060
nta but the kpop fandom has not been receptive to virtual idols at all. they even call them ai idols. when aespa debuted they were emails sent to sm to disband them since they had animated idols debut with them. when mave debuted they made memes of there being an empty stage in concerts and that they are copycats. vast majority of their fans are kpop adjacent though looking at how their chat is, but looking at their spotify streams they are basically nugu atm. for kr streamers this is still extremely good. they will probably do better once they make a comeback and if the song isn’t a snoozefest like their debut

>>46421173
her pet son, like the other bong from EIEN who is a HERfag

>>46419752
for comparison here is the chart from January. Look at Pippa

Someone should make a graph of her growth over the months

>>46421319
Still salty that she dump the Romanian troll who made her in the first place.

what the fuck there was a guerilla kronii karaoke?

>>46421173
irl she collects Ikea sharks, has over 20 and decided to introduce the audience to them, then never shut up about them.
It's an odd thing to base your personality around, but she's nowhere near the only one.

She actually did uphold tradition.

>>46420412
if anyone would break out like that it would be plave as they are kpop already. holostars has zero chance as cover are banal faggots when it comes to english subs

Do you guys make any money out of this or...?

>>46421405
Yes. You just missed her monthly care package for "Kronii's fans".

>>46421128
>Not that it's been incredibly successful, mind
And honestly, I think that’s perfectly fine. Bae does these projects because she has fun doing it, and a lot of her dedicated fans like it. That’s what “caring about having fun rather than success” should look like. Not this shit >>46420333

>>46421370
Is he a major influence on her early incline?

>>46420872
>it's a miracle she broke 10k
You truly don't realize the power of karaoke tourism, even if it's announced right when it starts. And old but good exampe, Mumei once did an unarchived karaoke with about 20-30 minutes notice. But that's typical of her, right? Except this time she did it literally fucking 2 AM PST and 5 AM EST, beyond even her usual window for unarchived karaokes. And yet it still hit within the usual expectations for her karaokes at the time. There's nothing miraculous about it

is this real or an april fools joke?

>>46420875
>Actual coping kronie
Damn, i though you guys were extinct, guess you only come out of the wood when she gets "good" number

>>46421222
the fuck is it really that bad

>>46420256
retarded move here, gamma has been playing the pre-scrims with that account for a while now
they MUST've seen him before, he hasn't changed his name and he is in the tourney discord
the worst part is when their own chat, literally filled with nijifans, started calling them out and correcting them
>picrel
they were like
>ww who even is hizaki ganma please leave
in global chat
and I don't understand what happened with Naruse, he has played with the stars FOR YEARS, him not recognizing ganma (he took a while to realize) was disrespectful
the worst ofender was Naraka
>well I didn't know that
>(chat starts telling her who he was)
>*laughs*
>ehhh good for you guys that know
>*laughs*

>>46421519
Yes. He promoted her non-stop using his channel when his channel was way bigger than Pippa and gave her a chance to interview a Blizzard employee.

>>46421533
Really long joke since it won't premier until June.

>>46421527
Stop coping already sapling.

>>46419233
Clock was always better in collabs than solo, there was a lot of shitposting about it already on debut when she would rather hang out in VC with other members than streaming on her own, she would avoid solo streams in general and play minecraft off-stream etc.
No idea about her synergy with the penis because I never watched a single mixed collab but if she needs male collabs to give her best she got into the wrong company, Kronii could be a solid 3K streamer in niji EN I guess.

Seeing how toxic the Nijifans are in this year VSaikou i wonder just how much they were seething last year because StartEnd was stealing all the attention and tourist that traditionally belong to Nijisanji in this Vrtuber tournaments even Kuzuha was nothing more than a side character last year

>>46420892
Well, believe me, I'm not trying to say Kronii is completely blameless here. I just think it's silly to go "She never should have applied!"

The applicant isn't the one who necessarily knows what the job is gonna be like. In Kronii's case, the girl didn't even know male collabs were a hot button issue, she seriously asked her viewers if they don't have female friends, she clearly wasn't fully aware of the whole "idol" thing going in.
And that's fine for the applicant, you can't expect everyone who applies to fully know everything, especially in a content creator job where getting in can be the difference between a stable career and slumming it with patreon. But again, cover is the one bringing these girls on so being thorough on screening is something they should be

>>46421405
honestly the main reason i stay in this thread is because any guerillas are going to be announced here. /hlgg/ is too fast for me to keep up with and there's too much spam

>>46421319
here, ive calculated it all under 5% error estimate

>>46421617
Probably fine since Aqua choked like always.

>>46421568
Was Gamma streaming and what did he say about it?

>>46421675
Glad to see there are still some smart posters left in /#/

Oh, so you're either a shitposter or >>46421588
fair enough

>>46421568
notable moonrunes I can read
>seriously? asking "who"?
>lol "who?"
>he is even using his name correctly though...
>but he has his holostar name though
>he's a member of Qpi's team

>>46421370
Fuck that dude, he started bringing up her doxx shit on stream why the fuck should Pippa still rep him

>>46421675
holy fucking shit 10/10 graph anon
I'm fucking proud of you<div class="xa23b"><span class="xa23t"></span><span class="xa23i"></span></div>

>>46421690
Not like it was rigged to be in vamp boy's favor, did Jun ever interview Astel after?

>>46421573
I know that he shilled Pippa hard but I don't know he is big enough to make such impact.

I heard that hololive is full of cute girls that manage to stay professional despite the friendly atmosphere
Is it true?

>>46421588
NTA but he's right. Kronii was always going to get over 10k for this, anyone who thought she would get under 10k for a karaoke was a shitposter or an anti who is desperate to see her numbers crash.

>>46421617
well, during the scrims they were riding the wave of trolls, holoantis, vtuberantis, aquafans and apexfags spam in chats when aqua/startend didn't have pov

>>46421568
well, unless someone clips it and holofans point it out.... this drama will be done before the next thread
But I am sure Gamma will remember it

>>46421731
no, he was just joining the room and started a stream ~8min after that happened

>>46421675
I'm so fucking proud of you

>>46421556
nta but i saw it once on twitter and it sound terrible.

>>46421617
Bruh this is probably the wrong thread for you to fan this drama. Yes there are hates on nijisanji here but those are just ENfans who know nothing about the JP scene. ENfags thought vtubers are all seiso including indies and other companies except for nijisanji and only niji talents are being nasty on screen lmao.

>>46421675
Do you really think Pippa is about to peter out any time soon? I think she'll become holo-tier before she levels off.

>>46421005
>She has practically dropped the schizo person
The schizo person is what helped her out during her incline in the first half of 2022. If she started leaning into it again she'd unironically incline

>>46421779
>the ones that typed who being fucking greynames
like pottery

>>46421675
Salome finna get mogged soon

>>46421791
He never doxx her you retard. He only said vtubers that you like are probably already in a relationship and if they don't then they must have something bad hiding in the closet. He never mentioned anyone in that stream.

>>46421605
>if she needs male collabs to give her best she got into the wrong company
It seems that Cover wants to corner the vtubing industry by capturing all types of content creators instead of concentrating on their main turf.

>>46419504
Anyone, pushing Sundial is a KFP. Kronies only like CouncilRyS.

>>46419577
It's Phase Salome she will have 100K subs in her name

>>46421872
Good for him, hope he doesn't get wind of it, or any of the stars for that matter, this just doesn't look good for their relationship with each other, most especially since we're now seeing more Holo x Niji collabs<div class="xa23b"><span class="xa23t"></span><span class="xa23i"></span></div>

>>46422038
>conflating stars with holo
/mans/ is 2 blocks down<div class="xa23b"><span class="xa23t"></span><span class="xa23i"></span></div>

>>46421222
oh, that's what the anon was saying about fandom wars threads ago...

Suishit status?

>>46421898
What the fuck are you on you Niji cocksucker, nijiJP talents have done pke the of retarded shit over the years.

>>46419669
She would of gotten 14k minimum if this was pre-scheduled and in her usual timeslot.

>>46421961
a lot of members knew it though, here's one from Naruka's stream

>>46421944
she doesn't need to make schizo stuff when she is already one

I'll start by prefacing that it is undeniable that Kronii could have been (and has been, for a while) the uncontested #1 from Council in every metric: subs, live audience, VOD audience and donation revenue.

With that said, why are people celebrating her most recent unarchived karaoke numbers?
>pic related
It is her second lowest unarchived karaoke ever, beating only her Christmas karaoke
>which was overlapped by the Christmas JP karaoke relay, by Mio, Botan and Nene, plus Subaru and Pekora regular streams.

Kronii current (and unrealized potential) for unarchived karaokes is on the 18k range she was getting seven months ago.
13k is an absolute undeperformance!

>>46420256
good to know

>>46419691
Bae should be on there twice. She got 5k with her JP collab.

>>46420664
Having followed her PL a little, she definitely has consistency and resilience. She was doing daily streams about 20 people and dropping in regular higher effort creative content for months with no tangible return.<div class="xa23b"><span class="xa23t"></span><span class="xa23i"></span></div>

>>46422118
So your only knowledge of JP vtubers is just holo, niji and few of the company that appeared on vrabi?

>>46422007
If I remember right, he said he knew vtubers who has boyfriends.

>>46422121
We've already seen Kronii with a scheduled karaoke in her usual timeslot, it's no longer a guarantee that she hits 14k anymore. Though with the return buff, maybe should would have this time

>>46422159
it's not out fault you're too stupid to consider context anon

>>46422199
She is probably someone that saplings and teakeks will move to if she is in EN3.

>>46422080
Anon shitting on them no matter the talent wouldn't look good in the managers' eyes, it's not that hard to keep it professional and not be a dick about it, if any of them did that to a hologirl people would be up in arms with their pitchforks, that's why holo screens their collab partners

>>46422159
B-but...muh guerilla stream...

>>46422194
Nice prank bro.

>>46421556
Just search it up on YT or you will find it on Twitter if you're lucky<div class="xa23b"><span class="xa23t"></span><span class="xa23i"></span></div>

>>46422022
nice

>>46421675
Damn, the math checks out.

>>46422135
>The graynames also know

>>46422220
Retard.

>>46421527
Sure, but it pretty much eliminates any "return stream" buff.

>>46419886
She likes chill indie puzzle games that numbers bitch and moan about, since she's intentionally debuffing herself. She went a full year without even acknowledging the existence of male VTubers.

>>46422159
Kronii is the definition of wasted potential. Her entire life is wasted potential. God gifted her a divine vocal cord and blessed her to live in Canada, and she made into Hololive EN, but she never try to make use of any of these stuffs.

>>46421819
He has a pretty sizable channel and is one of Sargoy's capos. These are the people who were feeding into Pippa directly:
>Metokur
>Vee
>Rekieta
>Ken Ashcorp
>Kino Casino
>Ethan Ralph and Null (publicity, but not positively)

>>46420401
>>46420664
>>46422199
>>46422296
Neck yourself, shill.

>>46420891
Oh no you misunderstood Gura definitely wouldn’t reach where she is without Hololive. My point wass solely if gura was replaced with finana pomu elira kronii sana or bae anyone else they would fail. Honestly don’t think any of them would reach 1 million

>>46422038
well he must have seen or someone told him, Qpi replied to the global chat after all

>>46421815
No.

>>46422411
So I was right.

>>46422415
Which is why in my very first response to (You), assuming you're the same anon, I said
>I think the buffs and debuffs balance out
So I'm glad we were able to come to some agreement

>>46422441
>just 1 flesh streamer
Damn, the virtuals are taking over.

>kronii numbers timeloop
Not this shit again. Why does this thread always talk about Council numbers but never Myth numbers? Fuck, let's talk about NijiEN numbers. Something else please, I've seen this discussion so many times.

>>46422441
My wife.

>>46422461
>and blessed her to live in Canada
since when is living in Canada considered-

>she never try to make use
lol figures

>>46422473
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZL-IZXxgK4
1.2k for Tenma's paw reveal too.<div class="xa23b"><span class="xa23t"></span><span class="xa23i"></span></div>

>>46422515
I'm not even the same anon you were arguing with.

>>46422551
Maybe because Kronii just streamed you fucking retard ?

>>46422645
kek

>>46422487
I would think that the only one that can be replaced in Myth is suprisingly Ina. Others all have strong personalities that make the group works but Ina is just there, drawing and stuff. You can throw IRyS into the group and maybe it would work better. A fucking tentacle incarnate with yabai statement every now and then seems to be something that people would like.

>>46422595
Not a relevant response. Actual bot reply.

>>46422164
Don't use this screenshot for shitpost. Naraka and Narase are in the wrong. Areru and Ratna genuinely did not know and made an honest mistake. Meanwhile, Naraka and Narase are "victim-blaming".

>>46422705
who tf is narase

>>46422533
No anon I'm saying the "return stream" buff is pretty much worthless with it being a spur of the moment karaoke, but the no notice guerilla still hurt numbers.
Like you said it will mostly be made up out of tourists who don't know or care that it's a return stream.

>>46419752
wait, Fauna at #1?

>>46420333
If it were about 'friends' she would of graduated by now so she can go back to Twitch and stream with her indie friends. She's absolutely still doing this because, of the money. She's the biggest bread winner in her family and they all rely on her income.

>>46422159
Every metric except merch sales apparently.

>>46422595
here, have the numbers right now

>>46422296
Fuck no, Rin is not going to join EN3. She’s the only member of Idol, period (that means including HE and Riro), who doesn’t have a lewd art tag. If you fap to her avatar, she does not want to know about it.
Also, Idol’s members get to design their own models. Rin’s a reverse trap tomboy prince because she wants to be, and she can play that role well. She’s also a turbo-autist who can’t shut up about ikea sharks.
Can you imagine the shitshow it would be if she got in EN3 and ended up with a big titty model like Kronii or something? Idol has a bunch of VC money, and she’s inclining hard right now.
Frankly, I think it would be a terrible move, and she’d be miserable. And I don’t think she’d help EN3 very much, precisely because she’d probably be miserable in EN3.

>>46422293
>too stupid to consider context
You'll have to explain at length then because here is the same information in chart form.
Her unarchived karaokes used to fetch 18k+ up until the end of August 2022, the for some reason it dropped to 16k then all the way down to 13k (with the Christimas one being an outlier for being under the JP karaoke relay overlap).

That is an absolute underperformance and definitely nothing to celebrate or be proud of, it truly looks like the death rattles of a vtuber with immense unrealized potential.

>>46422461
It fits with the naruto theme
>Naruto
Bae is a hard worker and always does her best.
>Sasuke
Mumei Is the edgy one but still cool
> Kakashi
Is the sensei and has the most experience
> Shikamaru
Considers what she doing a drag but when she get serious she is surprising efficient
> Obito
Sana and motivation for Fauna.

>>46422543
well, whenever you are invited to this kind of events in person, you ask for monetary compensation to make the trip worth
botan and watame only have to setup the time on a schedule

>>46422747
Gura is above but she streams less than 5 times so she is discounted

>>46422551
Because 3 Myth have shit numbers and the remaining 2 don't stream.

>>46422567
SEA among us.

>>46420447
Ina and Bae are also one of her better pairings. She has no chemistry with Ame, which is fine.

>>46422551
This is some of the most discussion of small corpo numbers I’ve seen in the thread for a long while. I’m just happy we get that much.

>>46422567
>implying I am ESL because I didn't spell every single word I typed
You don't know how good it is to be a Canadian. Alberta for example is a great place that everyone wanted to live in because of its weather. Not only that the wages are higher if you managed to get a job across the border. It is the second best country to live in NA. Jokes aside being a Canadian is way better than staying in Korea for Kronii.

>>46422747
birthday buff + two unarchived karaokes + low overlap compared to the rest of holoEN
not that it means anything t b h, 8k is in fact low for the usual top spot<div class="xa23b"><span class="xa23t"></span><span class="xa23i"></span></div>

>>46422015
Irystocrats are fucking pests in kronii's general, what the fuck are you on about?

EN will never be relevant.

>>46422777
5 JPs at the top, followed by Pomu, Tenma, NijiEN and HoloID dregs, and then a bunch of other shitters
Pochi with some good numbers there, isn't that more than most Phase members who aren't Pippa or Tenma?

>>46422816
Since when is Naruto a hard worker

>>46422799
you should normalize this against the fact that the entirety of english speaking vtuber audience is cratering in general though. 2-3 years from now and even gura will be a 4view if she lasts that long

>>46422799
Wonder what happened past 2022-08-28...

>>46422911
Those aren't irystocrats, irystocrats in /HiRyS/ hate Kronii kek

>>46422746
I fundamentally disagree with the notion that a spur of the moment stream ruins the return stream buff. There are plenty of fans and subscribers who will take notice that someone is active again, even in a short amount oftime. But at this point I don't think I can convince you otherwise, or you can convince me otherwise so I'll leave it at that

>>46422740
Naruse I mean.
Not knowing Gamma is one thing. Not admitting the mistake when called out and even blaming Gamma for their missteps is another thing.

>>46422894 (me)
*spell check
Yeah, that happens from time to time.

>>46422750
She didn't care before but after getting the house she seems to care even less than before. I don't know it is what it is.

>>46422785
Also I heard their founder personally goes and saves 50 chuubas in black companies every week. And he doesn't dick any of the girls but they want him to really bad

>>46422911
you're joking right? those are literally kronies OBSESSED with irys and their ship, /hirys/ doesn't give a shit about kronii<div class="xa23b"><span class="xa23t"></span><span class="xa23i"></span></div>

>>46421005
Did you ignore the first half about her being autistic. it wasn’t fauna’s plan but the mommy thing is hers. She gets supers, comments, fanart calling her mommy or mother

>>46422973
why are ENiggers leaving in mass?

>>46422799
I’m nta. I agree with you that Kronii’s reclining, that these numbers aren’t great when taken in context, and that kronies should stop being so insecure and just admit she has limited appeal outside of kronies because of her own content choices.
But come on, a 5view stream isn’t a “death rattle”, no matter how much of a recline she’s had.

>>46423011
Go be a nigger somewhere else.

>>46422997
Nothing anon, half of the EN viewerbase just decide to fuck off for no reason at all.
Stop noticing things

>>46420445
If she plans to stream we’ll know in the next 30 minutes

>>46423092
nijiseethe, you don't like your shitters being exposed as scum?

>>46422969
Naruto was born with hard work

>>46423049
It would benefit Rin, Idol, AND HoloEN if Rin stays in Idol and doesn’t join EN3. If you’ve never watched Rin’s streams before, it might be hard to understand why. If Rin joins EN3, she’s gonna make Kronii look like Kiara. You really don’t have to like Idol to think that it would be a disaster.

>>46423070
>death rattle
OK, a better expression would be "a settlement for mediocrity" because she of course can get better numbers than any Council and most Myth if she ever tried for it
>which she doesn't seem to be inclined towards

>>46423222
Why would I care? You can go to catalog to make a thread about it all you want just not in here. You wouldn't because you know people don't care about JP drama generally.

>>46423300
who the fuck is Rin

>>46422894
NTA. It seems that anon assumes that you are ESL not because of the spelling error but because of the grammatical error.

>>46422973
I wouldn't say it's cratering, but rather disperising - more small corpos and indies are getting 3, even low 4 view, while both NijiEN and HoloEn are reclining ((NijiEN much faster). Lack of EN3 and low number of streams surtely atributed to Holo recline, not to mention waste of time and resouirces for homos.

>>46423222
because it ruins the rrats of only NijiJp is a decent person, turns out they're the wolf of the same clothing

>>46423300
Good thing vstats added Idol, so next month they'll be featured in >>46419752 table and it will be possible to continuously observe their evolution.

>>46423300
Don't worry it, anon. As you said, Rin likes her model, and Cover tries to pick people that suit their premade model. Everyone's good where they're at.

>>46423378
I’m actually looking forward to that. If Idol keeps inclining, it’ll show (if nothing else) that investing money into your vtubing business pays off. I’m convinced that corpos do so much stupid shit despite knowing better only because they have to cut costs.

>>46423344
you seem to care as you like to respond to it, if you don't care then don't fucking read it retard, others were discussing it, if you want your timeloops then go follow the kronie convo fuckface

>>46423350
Master of archer. The one that craved Shirou's dick.

>>46423007
NTA
It does. The question is into what extent.

>>46422931
Oh actually now that both Idol and Phase are fully on vstats I can check their latest streams myself

Rin: 2k-2,5k
Yuko: 1k
Pochi: 600-800
Juna/Fuyo: 300
Riro: 200

Pippa: 2k-3k
Tenma: 700-1.5k
Shiina: 300-600
most other EN girls: 200-300

Hmm, so roughly equal for now, although I guess since Phase has a lot more people they probably have a bigger box.

>>46423359
>I wouldn't say it's cratering, but rather disperising - more small corpos and indies are getting 3, even low 4 view,
That doesn't come even near the volume of audience dropping out of watching EN streams live since Tempus and iLUNA debut (to pick a completely arbitrary threshold).

Both Luxiem and half of HoloEN dropped from comfortably getting north of 10k to failing to beat 5k without an appealing enough content.
On Luxiem's (and Noctyx) case it is easy to understand
>the chinese audience fell out of love with them
but for the HoloEN girls, "dispersing" doesn't explain because they lost more of their live audience than the smaller companies have in total, combined

>>46423501
How is the Kronii thing a timeloop?<div class="xa23b"><span class="xa23t"></span><span class="xa23i"></span></div>

>>46422816
>Sasuke
>cool

>>46422009
I hope they gave up on that after Tempoop but it's not like they hired Kronii because she was horny for homos, that's how BAE got in. Kronii showed 0 interest in the opposite gender for more than a year before she done that mafia cover and later randomly popped in Vesper's chat together with BAE, that's why it was so much of a shock. Also because her fanbase is very much gosling type similar to Ame it just doesn't work with male collabs ESPECIALLY if they have good chemistry with each other.

March superchats
Hololive
>1. Hakui Koyori - $76,926
>2. Houshou Marine - $57,830
>3. Sakura Miko - $49,986
>4. Ceres Fauna - $37,813
>5. Momosuzu Nene - $36,100
>6. IRyS - $33,999
>7. Hoshimachi Suisei - $32,060
>8. Usada Pekora - $31,176
>9. Sakamata Chloe - $30,075
>10. Nakiri Ayame - $25,522
>11. Nekomata Okayu - $24,875
>12. Shirogane Noel - $23,708
>13. Tsunomaki Watame - $23,271
>14. Kazama Iroha - $23,126
>15. Inugami Korone - $22,298
>16. Yukihana Lamy - $22,200
>17. Minato Aqua - $21,688
>18. Oozora Subaru - $21,316
>19. Takanashi Kiara - $21,139
>20. Shiranui Flare - $19,371
>21. Kaela Kovalskia - $19,216
>22. Hakos Baelz - $17,907
>23. Tokoyami Towa - $16,811
>24. Murasaki Shion - $15,156
>25. Shirakami Fubuki - $15,031
>26. Takane Lui - $12,876
>27. Ouro Kronii - $11,762
>28. Mori Calliope - $11,747
>29. Watson Amelia - $11,479
>30. Gawr Gura - $11,042
>31. Nanashi Mumei - $10,817
>32. Vestia Zeta - $8,699
>33. Amane Kanata - $8,393
>34. Kureiji Ollie - $7,640
>35. Natsuiro Matsuri - $7,603
>36. Yozora Mel - $7,226
>37. Shishiro Botan - $6,969
>38. Aki Rosenthal - $6,759
>39. Himemori Luna - $5,712
>40. Laplus Darknesss - $5,392
>41. Roboco - $5,372
>42. Omaru Polka - $5,238
>43. Pavolia Reine - $5,213
>44. Ookami Mio - $5,171
>45. Anya Melfissa - $4,657
>46. Tokino Sora - $3,979
>47. Kobo Kanaeru - $3,206
>48. Ayunda Risu - $2,862
>49. AZKi - $2,600
>50. Hololive English - $2,374
>51. Moona Hoshinova - $1,881
>52. Airani Iofifteen - $1,018
>53. Yuzuki Choco - $535
>54. Hololive - $218
>55. Akai Haato - $0

>>46423608
Nijisanji
>1. Vox Akuma - $141,268
>2. Leos Vincent - $53,741
>3. Kagami Hayato - $41,785
>4. Kuzuha - $41,336
>5. Fura Kanato - $33,529
>6. Hex Haywire - $33,209
>7. Fulgur Ovid - $25,210
>8. Scarle Yonaguni - $24,942
>9. Fushimi Gaku - $19,262
>10. Kanae - $18,880
>11. Kenmochi Toya - $17,580
>12. Luca Kaneshiro - $15,293
>13. Alban Knox - $15,243
>14. Pomu Rainpuff - $15,150
>15. Furen E Lustario - $14,235
>16. Inui Toko - $14,044
>17. Ars Almal - $13,560
>18. Ike Eveland - $11,740
>19. Mysta Rias - $10,958
>20. Lize Helesta - $10,941
>21. Yuki Chihiro - $10,472
>22. Asahina Akane - $10,408
>23. Kaida Haru - $10,311
>24. Sonny Brisko - $10,105
>25. Ren Zotto - $10,091
>26. Selen Tatsuki - $9,642
>27. Hyakumantenbara Salome - $9,264
>28. Seraph Dazzlegarden - $8,839
>29. Elira Pendora - $8,336
>30. Igarashi Rika - $8,123
>31. Kuramochi Meruto - $6,956
>32. Ishigami Nozomi - $6,796
>33. Mika Melatika - $6,677
>34. Nina Kosaka - $6,511
>35. Millie Parfait - $6,493
>36. Watarai Hibari - $6,399
>37. Koshimizu Toru - $6,277
>38. Fuwa Minato - $6,269
>39. Suo Sango - $5,856
>40. Aia Amare - $5,742
>41. Doppio Dropscythe - $5,513
>42. Reimu Endou - $5,440
>43. Yang Nari - $5,238
>44. Shu Yamino - $5,139
>45. Sister Claire - $5,136
>46. Ange Katrina - $4,917
>47. Rosemi Lovelock - $4,863
>48. Shikinagi Akira - $4,823
>49. Tsukino Mito - $4,659
>50. Hayama Marin - $4,536
>51. Ponto Nei - $4,477
>52. Belmond Banderas - $4,462
>53. Yashiro Kizuku - $4,374
>54. Ver Vermillion - $4,301
>55. Enna Alouette - $4,203

>>46423361
The phrase is “wolf in sheep’s clothing” to describe someone who acts nice but is secretly a bitch. The phrase “cut from the same cloth” is used for someone who acts just like the people they’re associated with.
You can use both, since I think you were trying to express both sentiments. But they’re two separate phrases, and combining them barely makes any sense.

>>46423490
>investing money into your vtubing business pays off
I don't know if I would agree if the only success case is one of the girls, with all HE being absolutely in the dump and the EN girls trailing the top one hard.

Filian achieved the same degree of success Rin is showing right now at a fraction of the cost, unless those girls really overperform it would show the opposite
>look at how much money and effort they have to spend to mimick a fraction of our power,jpg

So is there any streams today that will compete with Hal? He's got the vsaikyou landmark lottery draw.

>>46423350
What do you mean you don't know ShibuRin?

>>46423608
>What are gifts?

>>46423665
Others
>1. Amano Pikamee (VOMS) - $103,038
>2. Pipkin Pippa (Phase Connect) - $39,033
>3. Chiyoura Chiyomi (Aogiri High School) - $33,614
>4. Gavis Bettel (Holostars) - $29,534
>5. Kurikoma Komaru (Aogiri High School) - $28,577
>6. Matsunaga Iori (Riot Music) - $23,334
>7. Mirai Akari (Goom Studio) - $16,982
>8. Natori Sana (independent) - $16,830
>9. Magni Dezmond (Holostars) - $14,529
>10. Banzoin Hakka (Holostars) - $12,062
>11. Average (independent) - $11,276
>12. Amakami Konomi (independent) - $11,229
>13. Caname & Haruky (independent) - $10,852
>14. Aruse Inu (Neo Porte) - $10,408
>15. Hizaki Gamma (Holostars) - $10,183
>16. Noir Vesper (Holostars) - $10,002
>17. Suou Patra (Nanashi inc.) - $9,761
>18. Tosaka Mimi (VSPO) - $9,460
>19. Tabasuko (Mirolive) - $9,433
>20. Kurumizawa Momo (Noripro) - $9,028
>21. Inaba Haneru (Nanashi inc.) - $8,478
>22. Aotsuki Slip (independent) - $8,354
>23. Boogey Voxx (independent) - $8,222
>24. Kurumi Noah (VSPO) - $8,116
>25. Oshiro Mashiro (Aogiri High School) - $8,089
>26. Kakyoin Chieri (.LIVE) - $8,060
>27. Yakumo Beni (VSPO) - $7,964
>28. Vanilla Nyoro (Riyar Digital) - $7,927
>29. Josuiji Shinri (Holostars) - $7,876
>30. Komori Met (VSPO) - $7,625
>31. Koinoya Mai (Merletto) - $7,430
>32. Axel Syrios (Holostars) - $7,361
>33. Nomura Nimu (independent) - $7,312
>34. Machina X Flayon (Holostars) - $7,288
>35. Hizuki Yui (Neo Porte) - $7,253
>36. Regis Altare (Holostars) - $7,200
>37. Dada (Relive) - $7,121
>38. Yamaguro Nekuro (Aogiri High School) - $6,939
>39. Momozono Riel (Noname Production) - $6,795
>40. Marisaku Panda (independent) - $6,781
>41. Natsume Eri (independent) - $6,732
>42. Reglush Lionheart (Noripro) - $6,681
>43. Shirayuri Lily (ViViD) - $6,511
>44. Astel Leda (Holostars) - $6,409
>45. Hanasaki Miyabi (Holostars) - $6,091
>46. Tomari Mari (independent) - $6,020
>47. Cygnus (Square Live) - $5,927
>48. Mokota Mememe (.LIVE) - $5,870
>49. Yatogami Fuma (Holostars) - $5,741
>50. Shibuya Hal (Neo Porte) - $5,548

>>46423608
do we have one for holostars?? I feel like Bettel had a good month too

>>46419504
bots

Ah great, now the SC fuckface is going to spam his shit for the next 3 week...

>>46423743
they're in the third post, the others section

>>46423665
>1. Vox Akuma - $141,268
I call foul on this. north of 100k of those are from the charity stream, and those were not superchats but donations to the charity.

For the same reason kson got docked from the list because the million subs celebration was in her facestream form, this one should have been docked

>>46423593
Myanimelist users' favorite hololive characters, this might be interesting for numbers

>>46423730
Please be patient, their brain can only handle so much

>>46423743(me)
never mind, it was not that impressive

>>46423555
Thoughts on why?
Personally I think it is because both holo and niji don't really produce anything new. No new content, no new interaction. Kiara is trying hard to break the stalemate but she has no charisma. Other small corpo are actually doing the same thing but at least they are fresh faces. The only one doing something different is Pippa. But on Youtube there are lots of edgy stuff you can't do if you want to stay monetize so yeah.

>>46423608
>4. Ceres Fauna - $37,813
>6. IRyS - $33,999
Shitrys mogged! Her recline is glorious to witness. Irystocrap status?

>>46423789
Don't worry, it's not

>>46423300
>join EN3
What in the fuck are you talking about? Noone thinks this shitter would be able to join holo

>>46423608
>9. Sakamata Chloe
Shikuiin-san, what the fuck happened?

>>46423734
>1. Amano Pikamee (VOMS) - $103,038
>Likes Gold
>Montly SC Gold
Pikamee...

>>46423542
Phase's problem imo is that they just have so many girls that feel perpetually stuck in that 100-300 range and I don't really see them getting out of it.

>>46423785
Charity stream was $80k of it, yes it's an important footnote but all SCs get counted no matter where they're going

>>46423608
How the fuck did kobo get mogged by fucking anya on her anniversary month

>>46423785
Sounds like cope to me.

>>46423665
>Vox Akuma - $141,268
>Gavis Bettel (Holostars) - $29,534
Gosh damn Vox still got it, even when his ccv is at a pitiful level. I thought Gavis would have gotten a lot more but apparently not.

>>46423789
>green women
Come on we are already in 2023.

>>46423789
>Myanimelist users'
That is such a small and niche demographic that it's basically useless

>>46423608
my wife made top 5

>>46423070
Yes, she has limited appeal outside of kronies, because she intentionally debuffs herself and she hates grey tourists (she avoids games that attract them), but she has a large and diehard fanbase (mostly on discord), this is why her appeal can never be overstated.

>>46423879

>>46423608
>9. Sakamata Chloe - $30,075
????

>>46423608
Sorry Irys, $34k is only for adults
>>46423665
Miload is back.

>>46423804
Seething!

>>46423694
Yeah, I’ll admit it’s not for certain. I added the word “if” to remind myself of that. It’s why I’m actually interested to see how the numbers go. If Idol stagnates and fails, that’ll be a disappointment, but data’s still data.

>>46423608
Would this also count SC from mengens? Cause Stinky most likely sucked those whales dry

>>46423879
Kobo's audience is fucking poor SEA kids, there's a reason why she always loses to Kaela and Zeta when it comes to money earned

>>46423879
Anya's birthday.

>>46423879
Because Kobo's indog teenager viewerbase can't compete against an eigo ID who gets some $
Like I think kobo has even talked about this

>>46423873
The context that people superchatted for the charity not for Vox himself makes this number worthless if not accounted for.

>>46422683
If I’m going solely on steady growth and the least problems Mori would have to go. If they were id tier shitters Mori would be focusing on rm way more than now and be treating holo like a part time job. If they get decent success she’d be the face of myth and she can’t handle the attention. If i could pick the standout member to be someone other than Mori I’d keep her and replace kiara.

>>46423983
Of course not, and the fact that it doesn't factor in gifted memberships obviously makes the entire data useless

Enna Alouette
Goddish 1.2M views

>>46423789
> myanimelist
get with the times old man, most young'uns are using anilist nowadays

>>46423909
anon, firstly this month was his comeback from all his dox drama so extra support
secondly majority is because of his charity stream
thirdly, when you are dying and losing is exactly when you start to get pity support to make it look like everything is fine

Regarding Bettel, he has 5-10 insane sugar mommies but as we see from his ccv and subs, he is not attracting new audience

>>46423665
Hex absoutely mogged

>>46416160
Lia has hit 4view once during a chris chan stream. it was phase connects only 2nd ever 4view stream at the time so it was a huge deal at the time.
She has shown she can pop a rating (pushed 700-800 with her mom unraided, 600+ with shock collar both times unraided, did 700 with a yuri collab unraided), but she does major debuff stuff like will stream genshin watchalongs at 5am to 60 people or gets a bug up her ass that she's gonna be a League or Valo streamer, even-though those games are incline cancer. She also doesn't do shorts that often so she won't grow subs. She also doesn't get raids because of her timeslot

Lia is super fun, but her problem is she is mentally ill and changes her brain meds, so that causes a lot of streaming instability/inconsistency. She will always be beloved within the company and a fan favorite, but she has red flags that are so the company will probably never get behind her.

>>46423909
Bettel gets a lot of gifted memberships too.

>>46423856
Did you not see the chain of posts I was replying to? I never brought up the idea of her joining EN3. Another anon did, and I was explaining why that would be an awful idea.
Obviously, if Rin tried to apply to EN3 and got rejected, that would make this all moot. But even if she did get in, I still think it would be a terrible move for her and for Cover. I have no idea if she could get accepted if she tried, and I don’t care. Because that wasn’t my point.

>>46419563
Ame would like to have a word with you

Fauna is 2nd worst though...

>>46424035
the guy who tracks members does a different chart

>>46423555
As lockdowns were dying around the globe it was to be expected for HoloEN number to recline.
>but for the HoloEN girls, "dispersing" doesn't explain because they lost more of their live audience than the smaller companies have in total, combined
Thing is, I think no one has any comparison between small corpos/indies and HoloEN at different poitns in time. But, for example. Phase Connect has about 5-7k of viewers among all the talents, JewCorp about 3-5k etc. I think it can explain at least part (maybe even big part) of recline in HoloEN number - there's bigger variety now, and some people who don't like extremes od Vtubing - Vshojo/Niji and Hololive - can find chuuba that is more to their liking.

>April's fool
>Linglan did a karaoke as usual
Creatively bankrupt.

>>46423879
>21. Kaela Kovalskia - $19,216
Kronii blowing herself up was the best thing to have happened for Kaela.

>>46424130
Irys was the worst retards

>>46423608
Graduate everyone below Kaela.
>Mumei's there
Fine. Graduate everyone below Zeta.

>>46424135
>lockdown cope
Funny because JP is stronger after the lockdown.

>>46423873
because people super for charity and not for Vox ? I really think the context behind the superchatted numbers should matter, especially for charity. I mean the streamer not getting the money it's the org that get it

>>46423734
>Pikamee
and probably 70% of that went to her pockets

>>46423730
Gifts are not SCs. You can do one if you want to.

>>46423873
Stop coping already holy shit

>>46422551
Kronii streamed 2 or 3 times in March all in the first half and one was like 6 or 7k which definitely didn’t get discussed. What kronii timeloop she doesn’t stream

>>46424049
>same week
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_lwD3ILdKi0
Can't even beat a Korean Joker wannabe singing through a vocaloid.

>>46420475
Nah it's more like she didn't want to turn it into her real job which is making art, it was always about making friends and having fun but in the end fans demanded more than she was willing to give that's how I see it after looking into some of her roommate reddit posts etc. she was never too serious about being holo, I guess the question is was management/recruitment team aware of this before giving their bets on Sana, it seems like they didn't mind Council being dominated by part-timers in general.

>>46423608
Lap-chan has the viewerbase back, but certainly not the gachis.
I'm not surprised, but still.

>>46423789
does it have a nijisanji characters list?

>>46424070
I think he is still first even if you take off the charity thing but your other points are valid.

>>46424113
would like to know those figures as well

>>46424206
And Japan is more okay with anime/weeb stuff in mainstream compared to the west. Vtubing in the wwest is a niche of a niche

>>46424183
Graduate everyone below the first army, starting from Kiara.

>>46423608
>47. Kobo Kanaeru - $3,206
This is why the other girls don't pander to the ID market.

>>46424183
Kanata... Luna... Mio...

NijiEN is unironically collapsing, it's not even a meme<div class="xa23b"><span class="xa23t"></span><span class="xa23i"></span></div>

>>46424266
that song is legitimately good (not the korean version though, sounds like ass)

>>46423798
>Kiara is trying hard to break the stalemate but she has no charisma.
No she's not? A more indepth explanation below

>Personally I think it is because both holo and niji don't really produce anything new.
Nijis recline is a direction function of the "acceleration" strat by their company.
iLUNA pre debut tweets absolutely pushed a whole segment of the audience away (the segment they "inherited" from HoloEN back on LOE days), the disgust for the behaviour of the new blood going full "move, I'm gay" (literally) was palpable.
It was not immediately felt because the boys (Luxiem and Noctyx) were having their own share of problems trying to tardwrangle their chinese audience and themselves but it can be seen now.
Adding XSoleil that fast was the final straw too, all of a sudden between iLUNA and XSoleil there were more 'livers' than the entire OG girls batch on LOE, it destroyed any branch cohesion and splintered their audience.

For HoloEN, other than Tempus and Tempus 2 causing some attrition and churn in the fanbase (whose extent is subject to debates and timeloops to this day), the girls were already showing signs of what I can only described as
>tiredness
Many of the HoloEN girls were tired of their audience, tired of their content, tired of their managers and just plain tired.
That led to health problems, that led to uninspired streams, led to fights with management and all sorts of troubles, even before Tempus.

A new gen or two could easily have relieved some of the girls, which could then rest on their accomplishments and trade live audience for off stream projects
>with the most obvious example being Mori, which could EASILY take the "occasional streamer full time singer" route that other girls in the company already do
with the new girls being responsible for grinding and entertaining the live audience and growing the market or at least keeping it.
But no new gen came, the "anti new gen" came with Tempus and all of a sudden this anime season doesn't look so bad, look, the cute OP Shield Girl is back!

Anons like to talk about "mindshare" and Myth's mindshare is intact, with the correct content they could easily go back to a decent live viewership, at least compatible with mid to late 2021.
But mindshare doesn't put "asses in the seats" and they have a massive name recognition, are universally beloved and admired but can't for the live of it attract a live audience to their mundane day to day streams
>except for Gura. When she streams. Which she doesn't because she's tired

>>46424106
>Cross-posting from 2 hours ago
What the fuck are these bots doing?

Someone ask GPT-4 what method does Youtube use to calculate ccv

>>46424266
Oh no.
But do you know who she can beat with all the covers? She can beat IRyS AHAHAHAHAHAH

>>46423734
Pippa's paypigs are something else. Can't imagine how much she made off overpriced shitty bd merch.

Since saplings like to highlight high SCs all the time I might as well do the same for Kronii. But at least there's something interesting this time; EU wasn't useless for once

>>46423789
>HoloX: supporting
>HoloID: supporting
>Council: supporting
>AZki: supporting
>A-chan: supporting

>>46423873
>all SCs get counted
That was not superchat, it was a different functionality that youtube supplies that doesn't put the money on the channel account but directly on the charity fund.

>>46424370
anon, seriously why the fuck would anyone watch chimkin EU or not

>>46423879
Anya is japanese<div class="xa23b"><span class="xa23t"></span><span class="xa23i"></span></div>

>>46424283
Not that I'm aware. Anycolor is also not listed as a company in myanimelist, while Cover Corp is the #34 most favorited company. Also Ironmouse has an entry.

IdolEN shill really wants to force a conversation about them. Just ignore the retard.

>>46424113
>>46424298
same desu

>>46423665
Over 100k of Vox's money is from his charity stream. He doesn't get any of that money

>>46424135
>But, for example. Phase Connect has about 5-7k of viewers among all the talents, JewCorp about 3-5k etc
They most definitely don't have that combined, 7k combined is Lazulight and Obsydia pre Luxiem combined audience.

>>46424370
Anon saplings are the only holoEN fanbase that cares about superchat
Ffs if superchat mattered Pippa would be superior to all of holoEN

>>46424273
Thinking about it, from what I read /here/, Kaela was also a part-timer at the start and her manager did not want her to overdo her streams because she has other work to do.

>>46424261
She had two streams. One was a TTS/soundboard stream the other was her birthday, if you want to count her Cover premiere that's 3 streams.

>>46424454
HoloGra is an anime

>>46424250
>Retard wants to spam the thread with useless numbers for half the month again.
Thanks, anon. Great service.<div class="xa23b"><span class="xa23t"></span><span class="xa23i"></span></div>

>>46424348
I like the KR version way more. Not the language, but the mood and way he sings.
Heard the original several times before and always forgot about it, because the vocals are poorly mixed, bland and don't work with the music for me.

>>46424350
>talking about iluna and xsoleil as if the problem started there and affected the previous gen
>talking about LOE as if they are the best of niji
>talking about Tempiss and Tempoop
>thinking that holoEN are just plain tired of everything, but nothing is their fault
>health problem mentioned
>EN3 mentioned
We got a pure sample of ENshart right here.<div class="xa23b"><span class="xa23t"></span><span class="xa23i"></span></div>

>>46424273
I’m convinced that they thought Sana would be like Ina. Ina managed to have a real artist job and stream, and Ina was probably the one who recommended Sana, so I can see why they took a gamble.
I don’t think they wanted part-timers. They wouldn’t pay a salary to their talents if they were ok with that like Niji is. I think they just had bad luck in rolling 2/5 shitters. But enough people will watch a HoloEN no matter how mediocre they are, and putting your foot down too suddenly and too harshly would look bad to the tourists.
I think they’re probably trying to retweak their hiring and management process for EN3, and figuring out their next move based on the results.