/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

GRIM

>>46303410
Recent clip numbers
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>>46303480
GRIM SLAVE BOTS

* YESTERDAY'S FINAL TALLY *
>48,771: Pekora (Hololive)
>41,159: Aqua (Hololive)
>39,608: Suisei (Hololive)
>30,078: Subaru (Hololive)
>26,927: Okayu (Hololive)
>22,030: Yashiro (Nijisanji)
>21,397: Botan (Hololive)
>19,796: Gura (Hololive)
>18,990: Mio (Hololive)
>16,165: Rio (Holostars)
>14,322: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>13,759: Noel (Hololive)
>12,775: Lauren (Nijisanji)
>12,545: Watame (Hololive)
>12,196: Lamy (Hololive)
>11,869: Fuwa (Nijisanji)
>11,367: Iroha (Hololive)
>11,320: Koyori (Hololive)
>10,600: Hayato (Nijisanji)
>10,450: Mysta (Nijisanji)

Hololive board
Hololive thread

Luxiem 3D is next. Obsydia and Ethyria will be bypassed.

>>46303532
off-collab cooking
24) Aqua (Hololive) - 39,020 - Minecraft
25) Marine (Hololive) - 34,292 - Karaoke + announcement
26) Miko (Hololive) - 49,612 - Soulcalibur 6
27) Pekora (Hololive) - 49,236 - Minecraft
28) Marine (Hololive) - 54,460 - Holomen relationship updates
29) Ayame (Hololive) - 71,239 - New outfit reveal
30) Pekora (Hololive) - 48,771 - Granblue Fantasy gacha

>PER COMPANY
26x: Hololive
2x: Indie
1x: Neo Porte, Nijisanji

>PER STREAMER
7x: Pekora
3x: Marine, Miko
2x: Hololive, Subaru, Suisei
1x: Aqua, Ayame, Chiroru, Gura, Hal, Koyori, Lamy, Mio, Nerumero, Shion, Toya

>2023 GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
70x: Hololive
14x: Nijisanji
3x: Indie
1x: Neo Porte, VSPO

>PER STREAMER
27x: Pekora
8x: Marine
4x: Miko, Subaru, Toya
3x: Hololive, Mio, Suisei
2x: Koyori, Kuzuha, Lamy, Nerumero, Nijisanji, Okayu, Towa
1x: Aqua, Ayame, Chiroru, Choco, Gaku, Gura, Hal, Himawari, Hinano, Ina, Kiara, Mito, Mori, Nozomi, Polka, Roco, Shion, Watame, Yashiro

Chuubas must be slaves to professionalism.

>>46303410
/news/ anchor
Reply with a short description of the news and a link to the source!

News from the last thread
>Both Pikamee and Akari's graduation streams are happening today
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UOW_SkyA9A8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-uypbYaGL4
>Ranunculus 3D debut announced, weekly started from April 7th, JST
https://twitter.com/nijisanji_app/status/1641681733509861379
>HoloEN 2nd Valkyrie Connect Collab announced, details will come later
https://twitter.com/vconnect_en/status/1641656245651394563
>Dodekamin collab reached 50% of its 4 mil sales goal
https://twitter.com/asahiinryo_jp/status/1641606233391251461
>Hololive merch sales leak
>>46249529
>E3 2023 cancelled
https://www.pcgamer.com/e3-2023-is-cancelled/

Old news:
>Nijisanji new all male wave, debut starts April 2nd, JST
https://twitter.com/nijisanji_app/status/1641274391987367942
>Stock and sales figure leak on NijiEN merch (the leak has been patched: >>46099339)
>>46097530

>we /uoh/ now
Man, I need sleep... but I wanna stay.

>>46303549
would NijiEN fans be upset at people being skipped for 3d?

>>46303410
>>46303444
>>46303493
>>46303532
>>46303579
kys pedo

I wish all JP chads a very fine evening. Another gold to us, another day of EN being utterly irrelevant and infested with troons.

>>46303579
baka

>>46303615
Yes, but then they will try their damn best to defend it

>>46302446

Looks like they skipped people for 3D. This was the list I had for the supposed order.
2/16/20 - Shellin Burgundy*
3/7/20 - Amemori Sayo* (12/10/21)
4/1/20 - Kuroi Shiba
4/12/20 - Hayama Marin*
6/23/20 - Hana Macchia* (10/24/22, 12/16/22)
2/10/21 - Seto Miyako
5/1/21 - Gilzaren III*
6/5/21 - Asahina Akane*
6/24/21 - Azuchi Momo
7/24/21 - Lauren Iroas
7/28/21 - Petra Gurin
8/5/21 - Asuka Hina
8/6/21 - Selen Tatsuki
8/30/21 - Rosemi Lovelock
11/14/21 - Nina Kosaka
12/9/21 - Millie Parfait
12/30/21 - Vox Akuma
12/31/21 - Mysta Rias
1/1/22 - Enna Alouette
1/8/22 - Shu Yamino
1/8/22 - Ike Eveland
1/9/22 - Luca Kaneshiro
1/9/22 - Reimu Endou
1/21/22 - Siska Leontyne
3/5/22 - Alban Knox
3/10/22 - Sonny Brisko
3/11/22 - Harusaki Air
3/12/22 - Uki Violeta
3/12/22 - Taka Radjiman
3/21/22 - Mika Melatika
3/21/22 - Fulgur Ovid
4/12/22 - Ponto Nei
5/10/22 - Umise Yotsuha
5/24/22 - Hyakumantenbara Salome
6/7/22 - Yang Nari
6/27/22 - Min Suha
7/18/22 - Watanari Hibari
7/18/22 - Shikinagi Akira
7/20/22 - Seraph Dazzlegarden
7/23/22 - Amagase Muyu
7/24/22 - Scarle Yonaguni
7/24/22 - Ren Zotto
7/24/22 - Aster Arcadia
7/25/22 - Maria Marionette
7/25/22 - Kyo Kaneko
7/25/22 - Aia Amare
7/27/22 - Seffyna
8/13/22 - Fura Kanato
8/27/22 - ZEA Cornelia
10/17/22 - Bonnivier Pranaja
12/11/22 - Hex Haywire
12/15/22 - Meloco Kyoran
12/16/22 - Ver Vermillion
12/25/22 - Doppio Dropscythe
12/27/22 - Zaion Lanza
12/30/22 - Kotoka Torahime

>>46303532
>MARCH 2023 GOLDS
1) Nerumero (Indie) - 32,543 - Genshin gacha
2) Mio (Hololive) - 42,700 - Mahjong tournament
3) Gura (Hololive) - 67,405 - 3D showcase
4) Toya (Nijisanji) - 68,467 - Oekaki no Mori tournament
5) Miko (Hololive) - 138,977 - 3D birthday live
6) Marine (Hololive) - 39,525 - Minecraft w/Kanata
7) Miko (Hololive) - 42,738 - Soulcalibur 6
8) Pekora (Hololive) - 52,296 - Clubhouse 51 totsu
9) Subaru (Hololive) - 33,648 - Minecraft
10) Suisei (Hololive) - 45,471 - Micomet mocopi Switch Sports
11) Lamy (Hololive) - 44,322 - Clubhouse 51 w/Kanata, Chloe & Marine
12) Shion (Hololive) - 96,477 - 3D birthday live
13) Hal (Neo Porte) - 139,050 - VSaikyo 5 teams announcement
14) Pekora (Hololive) - 32,152 - Minecraft
15) Koyori (Hololive) - 106,097 - 3D birthday live
16) Subaru (Hololive) - 34,808 - SMOK One-Block Minecraft
17) Pekora (Hololive) - 34,863 - Slither.io
18) Hololive (Hololive) - 103,296 - Hololive 4th fes day 1 free part
19) Hololive (Hololive) - 95,002 - Hololive 4th fes day 2 free part
20) Pekora (Hololive) - 38,617 - Minecraft
21) Chiroru (Indie) - 97,523 - WBC semi-final watchalong
22) Suisei (Hololive) - 160,044 - 5th anniversary 3D live
23) Pekora (Hololive) - 52,542 - PekoMoona off-collab cooking
24) Aqua (Hololive) - 39,020 - Minecraft
25) Marine (Hololive) - 34,292 - Karaoke + announcement
26) Miko (Hololive) - 49,612 - Soulcalibur 6
27) Pekora (Hololive) - 49,236 - Minecraft
28) Marine (Hololive) - 54,460 - Holomen relationship updates
29) Ayame (Hololive) - 71,239 - New outfit reveal
30) Pekora (Hololive) - 48,771 - Granblue Fantasy gacha

>PER COMPANY
26x: Hololive
2x: Indie
1x: Neo Porte, Nijisanji

>PER STREAMER
7x: Pekora
3x: Marine, Miko
2x: Hololive, Subaru, Suisei
1x: Aqua, Ayame, Chiroru, Gura, Hal, Koyori, Lamy, Mio, Nerumero, Shion, Toya

>2023 GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
70x: Hololive
14x: Nijisanji
3x: Indie
1x: Neo Porte, VSPO

>PER STREAMER
27x: Pekora
8x: Marine
4x: Miko, Subaru, Toya
3x: Hololive, Mio, Suisei
2x: Koyori, Kuzuha, Lamy, Nerumero, Nijisanji, Okayu, Towa
1x: Aqua, Ayame, Chiroru, Choco, Gaku, Gura, Hal, Himawari, Hinano, Ina, Kiara, Mito, Mori, Nozomi, Polka, Roco, Shion, Watame, Yashiro

Don't tell me that the Enna schizo suddenly became an Enna anti because Enna said that she likes IRyS

*YESTERDAY’S FINAL EN TALLY*

>3/30 DAILY TALLY
19,796: Gura (Hololive)
10,450: Mysta (Nijisanji)
9,210: Baelz (Hololive)
7,497: Fauna (Hololive)
6,257: Amelia (Hololive)


>EN GOLDS FOR MARCH 2023
1) Mori (Hololive) - 18,696 - Monopoly (w/ Amelia, Magni, Vesper)
2) Vox (Nijisanji) - 8,614 - Return Stream
3) Gura (Hololive) - 67,405 - 3D Showcase
4) Amelia (Hololive) - 39,353 - 3D Showcase
5) Hololive English (Hololive) - 57,045 - Myth 3D Collab
6) Fauna (Hololive) - 6,793 - Penumbra
7) Kiara (Hololive) - 24,018 - Myth Offcollab
8) Shu (Nijisanji) - 10,195 - Return Stream
9) Ina (Hololive) - 14,532 - Minecraft
10) Vox (Nijisanji) - 10,791 - Charity Stream
11) Pomu (Nijisanji) - 19,891 - Outfit Reveal
12) Kiara (Hololive) - 9,341 - Karaoke (w/ Towa)
13) IRyS (Hololive) - 8,742 - Minecraft
14) Kronii (Hololive) - 20,086 - Birthday Stream
15) Vox (Nijisanji) - 6,437 - Little Misfortune
16) Shu (Nijisanji) - 9,912 - NijiEN Boys Mario Kart
17) Baelz (Hololive) - 9,761 - Karaoke
18) Vox (Nijisanji) - 13,240 - Unarchived Karaoke
19) Ren (Nijisanji) - 12,746 - Unarchived Karaoke
20) Mumei (Hololive) - 8,205 - Post-Fes Zatsudan
21) Fauna (Hololive) - 12,942 - Birthday Countdown/Unarchived Karaoke
22) Fauna (Hololive) - 16,885 - Birthday Stream
23) Mori (Hololive) - 10,321 - Drinking Offcollab (w/ Lui & Chloe)
24) Shu (Nijisanji) - 7,540 - Valorant (w/ Astel & NijiEN)
25) Ina (Hololive) - 8,656 - Post-Fes Zatsudan
26) Gura (Hololive) - 23,054 - Minecraft
27) IRyS (Hololive) - 13,254 - Unarchived Karaoke
28) Gura (Hololive) - 21,465 - Minecraft
29) IRyS (Hololive) - 5,328 - Megaman Zero
30) Gura (Hololive) - 19,796 - Minecraft

>PER COMPANY
21x: Hololive
9x: Nijisanji

>PER STREAMER
4x: Vox, Gura
3x: Fauna, Shu, IRyS
2x: Kiara, Mori, Ina
1x: Amelia, Hololive English, Pomu, Kronii, Baelz, Ren, Mumei

>POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)
35p: Fauna
27p: Vox
22p: IRyS
20p: Gura
17p: Shu
16p: Mysta
15p: Baelz
14p: Mori
13p: Kiara, Ina
10p: Luca
9p: Axel, Mumei
7p: Amelia
6p: Pomu, Ren
5p: Hololive English, Kronii
4p: Fulgur, Selen
3p: Uki
1p: Pippa, Elira, Rosemi, Nina

>>46303259
>poaching
If I'm the twitch CEO, I would totally entertain the idea. Not only I know Holos would cost significantly less than IRL streamers like Ludwig ang Sykkuno, much much less, but I know that the fandom is tight and actually donate tons of money, as most Holos are in the top most superchatted channels. Plus it would significantly damage YouTube streaming

>>46303706
>2023 EN GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
60x: Hololive
27x: Nijisanji
2x: Holostars

>PER STREAMER
9x: Mori
7x: Amelia, IRyS
6x: Baelz, Vox, Mumei, Fauna, Ina, Gura
3x: Mysta, Pomu, Kiara, Kronii, Shu
2x: Selen
1x: Ike, Flayon, Alban, Elira, Luxiem, Finana, Millie, Luca, Regis, Enna, Rosemi, Hololive English, Ren

>2023 POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)
76p: Fauna
60p: IRyS
59p: Ina
58p: Mumei
57: Mori
55p: Baelz
53p: Vox
50p: Amelia
40p: Mysta
31p: Kiara
30p: Gura
26p: Luca
22p: Kronii
17p: Shu, Selen
16p: Pomu
11p: Uki
10p: Axel
9p: Millie, Enna, Ike
8p: Finana
7p: Regis
6p: Elira, Rosemi, Ren
5p: Flayon, Alban, Luxiem, Hololive English
4p: Vesper, Fulgur
3p: Sonny, Hakka, Magni
1p: Meloco, Shinri, Gavis, Maria, Pippa, Nina

>>46303663
>>46303706
I heard you like little girls, nigga

Heh, get fucked random Taiwanese Vtuber

>>46303410
>>46303444
Stop posting pedoshit.

>>46303655
I'm sure some sisters are arguing about Luxiem deserving their 3Ds more than Ethyria because Luxiem will bring in more money and will use it more often

HoloEN 3 will be exclusive Twitch partner.

>>46303707
Honest question: who would accept that in hololive? Meru makes a lot of money outside of hololove and Roboco is building a house. No one in hololive needs money

>>46303790

Lots of things going to happen next week.

>>46303824

>>46303790
>>46303831

>>46303824
Would that restrict their platform freedom?

>>46303707
That’s why I even post it as a possibility, poaching Hololive is such a beneficial deal for Twitch because of all the point you said, they are cheaper, better fanbase and pull good stream numbers too

>>46303824
Does twitch even have exclusivity baked into their contracts these days?

>>46303824
Maybe not exclusive, but debuting a twitch focused gen seems like the kind of nonsense they would cook up

IRyS confirmed a fun collab tomorrow with "friends". Which means no homos in the Bae collab presumably.

>>46303828
If Cover got a sweet sweet deal, none of the talent can have a say about it.

>>46303054
I don't like Twitch, but HoloEN could probably benefit by dipping their toes in over there. People like Vei running her bitch mouth caused some damage to Hololive in that community. Holos spending a bit of time over there could go a way toward reversing some of that.

>>46303707
Eh it's more likely that Valve gave her or some of them the CS2 beta key but they can only stream it on Twitch and in a certain period or something.

>>46303885
>Mori with another fucking shithouse meme costume
Might as well go all out and give her a Shrek outfit. Pretty sure not a single person in the entire world thinks her forced cowboy shit is funny

>>46303918
If true, that means a myth, JP or ID member is involved

>>46303707
If i were twitch i would beg her to be in their vtuber shitshow promotion as hard as i can, having a holo could legitimise their vtuber standing and got some fan from youtube.

>>46303944

>>46303824
Literally dead on arrival if they do that

>>46303707
True, if I remember correctly Sykkuno and Ludwig contracts were both in the high 7 digits. No way Holos would cost that much, even Pekora or Marine or Gura

>>46303824
HoloEN 3 will stream exclusively on Steam

>>46303979
That's not made by twitch themselves. Some random bitch does it

>>46303824
That so retarded.

I hope you will post Pikamee lewds today

>>46303885
Can Marine beat Ayame's 70k outfit?

>>46303997
>HoE
Another terrible name on par with Ridonculus and Bot-action

https://twitter.com/maha5official/status/1641636444581113856
GEN 4 MAHA5 ID "The V4rious"

https://twitter.com/politicalawake/status/1641433056660840450

>>46304070
easily. 100k+ inc

>>46303824
It sounds retarted. So likely since it fits HoloEN management

>poach hololive
>for cheap
>cheap
i know youtube doesn't have an exclusive deal with cover, but you are dumb to think hololive, the corpo, would be cheap to poach.

Suisei graduation status?

>>46303824
Not a chance.

>>46304029
>No way Holos would cost that much
More like there is no way Twitch will pay them that much.
However, there is no way Cover will allow it, or if they do, they will talk to Youtube first, to force Youtube to make their own move.

>>46304135
It's EN. Mori would suck the dick of a crack addled nigger for 50 views these days

friends forever even in numbers

>>46304152
imminent

figure hololive relax time - yozora mel
https://twitter.com/hololive_goods/status/1641636589473521664

>>46303946
Sounds about right, since Valve is 100% gonna leverage the drops system and YT's drop system fucking sucks compared to Twitch's.

>>46303589

>>46303615
Yes, but sisters will attack anyone that complains

>>46304135
buying 10 girls probably wouldnt cost much since its just the EN branch, no way in the ever living fuck JP would move over to a platform thats worse for streaming to JP

>>46304135
IRL streamers are in a different plane, anon. Sykkuno a mere 5-8k ccv streamer had a contract worth millions just to transfer on YT

>>46304193
This is pure sex

>>46304193
SEXO

>>46304193
My dick is sure to relax after looking at it for a while

>>46304221
Holy schizo devotion

>>46303997
i dont get naming this gen "heroes of the east" but have their designs all being fucking WESTERN ISEKAI DRIP
who the fuck approved this? some ESL nip intern?

>>46304135
i thought twitch was hemorraging money so hard they started to clamp down on squeezing all the cash they can out of its streamers now in the past year because daddy Amazon is tired of footing the bill

>>46303662
Fuck you I was just updating my own
20/02/16 - Shellin Burgundy
20/03/07 - Amemori Sayo
20/04/01 - Kuroi Shiba
20/04/12 - Hayama Marin
21/02/10 - Seto Miyako
21/05/01 - Gilzaren III
21/06/24 - Azuchi Momo
21/07/24 - Lauren Iroas
21/08/05 - Asuka Hina
22/03/12 - Harusaki Air
22/04/19 - Ponto Nei
22/05/09 - Umise Yotsuha
22/05/24 - Hyakumantenbara Salome
22/07/18 - Watanari Hibari
22/07/18 - Shikinagi Akira
22/07/20 - Seraph Dazzlegarden
22/07/23 - Amagase Muyu
22/08/13 - Fura Kanato
23/01/29 - Koshimizu Toru
23/02/09 - Sophia Valentine
This one is JP only which probably gives a better picture since EN seem to be operating on their own schedules especially after the concert debacle I doubt they'll get anything for a while. So in short yes they're skipping some of the people in the queue but pretty much all of them are delayed for personal reasons, and at this point it's so short that a summer season with plenty of debuts will essentially clear the list as long as they don't go too accelerate with the VTA waves for the rest of the year

>>46303707
twitch already has one foot in the grave. buying out exclusivity from a >$100mil company is essentially going for broke. i high doubt the new ceo has that kind of power.
beside, this deal is shit for cover. pre ads and midstream ads are fucking cancer.

>>46303997
Wait EN got a third gen of homos? What the fuck?

>>46304192
>Debuffson already 4k on twitch

Youtube cull is crazy

>>46304221
Incredible

>>46304274
America is the east of Japan.

>>46304097
>autism logo
why?

>Current EN management is shit and untrusted
While A-chan taking over the YouTube EN channel, the whole EN management is different difficulty. Partnership with twitch maybe the easy way for Cover.

>>46303410
>46303579
>>46303444
>>46303493
>>46303532
>>46303663
>>46303706
>>46303745

>>46304274
You don't get it. Westerners get isekai to the ideal world of the East(China).

>>46304097
>2 knife eared whores
disgusting

>>46303770
>>46304192
Ame pretty much got the same number no YT and twitch now

>>46303997
>New VTuber Debut
>VTuber
Anycolor is silently abandoning their homegrown term, to avoid offending nijischizos.

>>46304369
Get back to the mines you slacker

>>46304379
shes still inclining, and its ass o'clock right now

>>46304379
Twitch numbers

>>46303770
Wow some asians do play CSGO?

>>46304221
>Enna refuses to be a slave of professionalism.
Sasuga follower of the cult of Kson.

>>46304383
they're no longer streamer with avatar

>>46304379
Nah, she still does better on YT. But what I will say is that this stream is a great demonstration on how numbers behave differently on twitch. Ame has shown nothing but slow incline this stream, unlike on YT where you would see small dips during intermissions between matches

>>46304299
>Already 4k
That is roughly the same number she get on YT no?

>>46304383
I guess after browsing /here/ long enough intern-kun and his bossman finally realized that referring to vtubers as livers is retarded

>>46304341
I don't follow at all what a hypothetical Twitch deal (that will never happen, Twitch fucking sucks and YT streaming is basically Hololive's kingdom) has to do with EN management at all.
They wouldn't be the shot-caller on something like that.

>>46304383
Their JP tweet still says liver. I'm guessing it's the translator that chose translating it to Vtuber

>>46304300
NijiJP

>>46304379
This is basically a guerilla stream at dawn in NA. I think this could get 8-9k easily if announced in advanced

>>46304519
Most influential thread

>>46304524
En management has no power in this. It's JPs call to make

>>46304288
Gilzaren III got lucky with his contract. He can have no delivery without repercussions.

>>46304224
YouTube would have paid a lot to retain a 20K box in 2021-2022, probably more than Twitch would ever pay. Not sure about now.

>>46304383
Did Ranunculus/Idios have Liver in their promo ad?

It was talked about extensively during the CCVID saga but it was generally accepted Hololive could easily dominate Twitch if they directed resources there.

>>46304566
Yeah people overestimate how much pull EN management has.
The power to make talents miserable and unhappy by rejecting their stuff, being difficult about perms, or delaying/fucking with their merch? Sure, probably. Giving bad advice to Yagoo about the EN market/culture? Probably.
Big strategic decisions like a Twitch deal or when a new gen comes out? Nope, that's high level shit, C-suite kinda decisions.

2k waiting for Pikamee with less than 6 hours before it starts. Mirai Akari with 500 with less than 4 hours before it starts.

>>46304626
maybe a year and a half ago for ENs.

>>46304566
Anon just abandon this retarded premise, Cover gains nothing and would kneecap their cross branch ecosystem and expose talents to endless yabs. Just drop it.

So Ame will get a game sponsored stream with drops included? that's why she's streaming on twitch?

>>46304516
It's not her main audience, though. So the fact that she gets roughly the same number of viewers on Twitch compared to her home turf is wild

>>46304626
Twitch is small time compared to Youtube.

https://www.twitch.tv/stellagaming
Why is Bae streaming here?

>>46304566
Tbh if JP allowed just EN to do this then it's then they would

>>46304636
Cute, let's see Marine Houshou numbers.

"It's just supply and demand" >>46304509
LMAO

>>46304642
Anon? Gura will easily break 20k everytime in Twitch. Twitch IS her turf, she even has a twitch emote right as we speak

>>46304704
wrong thread retard

>>46304626
Twitch is useless, they primarily a streaming culture and holo not a streaming focus corp.

>>46304626
Why would they want it, especially now?
Hololive is the king of YT, they have that shit on lock for the most part, and YT's revenue split and VOD ecosystem is incredibly better than Twitch.
The only advantage is discoverability and a better chat experience on Twitch and it's not enough

I guess Cover wants a bite out of the bounty system Twitch has
Imagine getting 30k for 1hour by just playing Diablo 4 or whatever the latest flavor of the month game is
that is also not exclusively bound to games, you can make thousands of dollars for watching a movie or game trailer and Twitch will NOT ban you for it because of copyright

>>46304651
>would gain nothing
Sell EN's streaming exclusivity for a year for 25m USD, easy

>>46304747
Well HoloEN isn't, they're more focused on cucking fans and sucking up their money while not streaming

>>46304636
200k for Pikamee. She's got that same international type of audience Coco had who will gather at the last chance to watch her live and say goodbye.
Her drama and then graduation also got a lot of attention on various strange sites and subreddits.

Trump just got indicted.
What does this mean for vtubing?

>>46304652
Yes, most probably CS2

>>46304747
Let's be real, people like PekoMiko or Koyori would probably have no problem fitting in there, they already streaming quite often despite not having to

>>46304736
Funny how she won twitch just by forced memes and various streamers trying to leech her. Would probably beat Iron lung if she did it a few times.

>>46304777
Then why do all the biggest flesh streamers in the world use Twitch and not Youtube?

>>46304097
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fryvamLq0W8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7YMTb_0SsY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCgCAVqBnNo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYEGF34f0Jc

>>46304626
JP would. EN can't do it now unless they have Gura go wild over there.

>>46304836
It means go back or kys /pol/tard, your coice.

>two graduation streams are going to be mogged by Marine
Kek

Ponto is the first one to have 3D debut
https://twitter.com/nijisanji_app/status/1641697019902459905?s=20

>>46304801
They wouldn't do that to their talents or fanbase.

>>46304878
Fuck that, can they even beat Ayame?

>>46304891

>>46304891
hot

>>46304801
Cover will NOT do exclusivity, if they do it, it will probably an hours streamed/week deal or something like that

>>46304801
Going to have to dedicate a big chunk of that dosh to the talents to bribe them into going over to the plainly inferior (for Hololive) platform. It's going to damage their algo permanently on YT and lose them a chunk of their audience. Plus, Twitch wouldn't even go for it anyway, they're trying to stop hemorrhaging money not start hemorrhaging more.
They don't need more high CCV streamers on Twitch, they have plenty, what they need is lower expenses and higher profit margins per viewer watch hour.

>>46304903
the thumbnail look sex

>>46304801
Even a year, the disgusting twitch vultures would stain them with a few yabs. Twitch is simply too pozzed to bother.

>>46304747
This is the main problem, VODs revenue will go bye bye.

>>46303655
you dont have any idea about nijien fanbase. they got pissed many times last year when luxiem had even the possibility of getting outfits first. and then a year later they still havent gotten it

https://twitter.com/shishirobotan/status/1641456793846185985?s=20
This should be obvious already but Botan will be in the HoloNiji GBF guild war as well

>>46304899
Bro, you hearing voices or something. Ayame was 70k

>>46304899
can they even beat Pekora's yesterday's gacha?

>>46304891
>>46304903
sex

>>46304777
>YT's revenue split and VOD ecosystem is incredibly better than Twitch.
https://youtu.be/sj1BKqvQJb8

Big streamers earn much more on Twitch

>>46304626
twitch numbers are dogshit, maybe even toxic. there is reason why they don't have a diverse range of ads and why they play them so often. their audience is much more left leaning and younger(aka poor). good luck, trying to get them to buy merch and concert tickets.

>>46304531
My guess is that a person with common sense convinced Anycolor translation team not to use their funny wasei-eigo term.

>>46304801
>EN
>Streaming
Not worth $25 million let's be real

>>46304857
Because they'd have to rebuild their army of fans on YT? They'd lose a big chunk. It's hard as fuck to get fans to switch, and there are armies of hungry Twitch streamers desperate to replace the kings as soon as they vacate their spots.
Also the streamers are only the "biggest in the world" because Twitch numbers are a total meme

>>46304736
I doubt it. Twitch kiddies have probably been trained to hate Hololive on sight by the environment Twitch has cultivated, and Gura is basically Hololive to them

>>46304903
I love that kind of hairstyle

>>46304958
Yes, can they even beat that let alone Marine outfit?

>>46304859
Mauveine and Garalea are pretty complex names. Doesn't roll off the tongue very well

>>46305008
>because Twitch numbers are a total meme
Watson is barely doing better on Twitch than she does on Youtube. There's no real evidence that Twitch numbers are inflated despite the ENfag copium

>>46304973
Yes but that require them to stream. All the streamer guy you see making ton of money probably stream 10 hours a day at least, Hololive can't into that shit

>>46304979
>there is reason why they don't have a diverse range of ads and why they play them so often.
Twitch doesn't have an automated ad system like Google AdSense that's based on interest tracking. That's why their ads rates are garbage and they run so many of them.

>>46305008
It's funny how in reality, it is youtubers who get the big real life gigs while twitch streamers have nothing.

>>46305097
Take the Koyo pill anon

Twitch is better because they can do subathons!

>>46304612
https://twitter.com/nijisanji_app/status/1503929332271443969?s=20
Not for ridiculous. I legit can't find Idios debut tweet. I may be stupid or no algo help

>>46305097
Stream and run ads. Only a few Holos would make it on Twitch with their 24/7 streaming culture.

>>46305082
Ame isn't gonna embed streams. Retard.

>>46304973
Short-term, but in the long run, big YT streamers can catch up or even overtake simply because of VODs. Twitch only has one up versus YT streaming, Twitch primes.

>>46305082
Yeah 70k viewers just love Fextralife and it's not at all because they embed that shit in their wikis and Twitch doesn't cull ridiculous views like tabbed out, embedded, muted, etc.
Fun experiment for you: Find a twitch streamer getting 20k CCV sometime and compare their chat speed to Gura's

>>46305174
So your argument basically only applies to Fextralife. Nobody cares. Asmongold smashes the shit out of any HoloEN and doesn't abuse embedding either.

>>46305082
we will never know for certain since its a platform she streamed on like... 10 times in a year and at real fucking dog shit hours.

>>46304192
Is she good with sniper rifles or is she just autistic?

>>46305255
shes a 4fun gamer

>>46305242
YT culls a lot of stuff that Twitch doesn't is the point, anon, Fextralife is just the glaring hilarious example.

https://twitter.com/GoodSmile_US/status/1641638490117926912?s=20
Holo mogged

>>46305255
Autism

>>46304992
You're delusional. If you said Gura or Mori isn't worth a Sykkuno, I would've agreed. But the whole EN branch? 10 streamers 5k CCV and up. They would easily worth 25m

>>46305242
Asmonwho?

>>46304836
>indict
>verb North American
>past tense: indicted; past participle: indicted
>formally accuse of or charge with a crime.
>"his former manager was indicted for fraud"
>Origin
>Middle English endite, indite, from Anglo-Norman French enditer, based on Latin indicere ‘proclaim, appoint’, from in- ‘towards’ + dicere ‘pronounce, utter’.

>>46305295
Lets face it even if Twitch didn't count viewers that aren't tabbed in it wouldn't matter. ENfags cope about imaginary culls when comparing Youtube streamers to other Youtube streamers.

>>46305302
Is twitch buying holos today's timeloop? Yesterday we had the "holos get no money from cover merch"

>>46305242
>asmongoloid

>>46305352
Ame just said something vague and everyone is making assumptions

>>46304891
whats the avarege ccv of each member?

>>46305352
Technically it was Holos don't get profit sharing on merch produced by Cover. Which is completely true, they only get a cut of merch they pay out of pocket to produce. The legalities of contractors 100% ensure this.

>>46305393
ponto and yotsuha are generally 2k-3k
muyu is a 3view

>>46305351
Oh, I get your angle.
It's funny that a last samurai larper is trying to use western flesh e-celebs to shit on Holos.

>>46305394
No, we are not having this timeloop again.

>Holo EN3 only
Not all HoloEN or even JP will be go to twitch.This is will be a test project and maybe twitch could offering a solution for merchandise logistics.

Someone should make a pastebin/rentry of all the sources of common stuff like how youtube calculates its CCV or how the talents describe the merch split/making process so retards can't shit up the thread by timelooping

>>46305409
Do the tempiss whores really count as Holos? Compared to actual Holos like Kanata I feel like it's an insult.

>>46305393
i think better than the recently boy group

>>46305352
You summoned the retard.

If Holos aren't getting royalties, Watame and Marine wouldn't spend millions making animated MV songs.

>>46305393
2k shitter, 1k shitter and 3views shitter

>>46305394
Gtfo nijiintern

>>46305390
Yeah, and in the same stream she said she would, at the absolute most, spend 30 percent of her time on Twitch. No indication of making any sort of switch

I'm not that amused by our recent crop of schizo timeloops, let's re-roll for some better ones

>>46305443
Always assume that any anon who’s implying as such is baiting.

>>46305423
you are implying retards open rentry/pastebin links
every general in this board always has a lot retards asking for shit that is in the OP

>>46305394
Wrong company.

>>46305394
looks like the nijiintern is awake

>>46305394

>>46305454
The argument from the schizo is that if Holos have no monetary or creative inputs from merch, they got no cut.
However, this is not true according to Holos themselves.

>>46305454
They get the profit specifically because they pay for the production anon. People were trying to argue they get a cut of merch sales that Cover produce themselves which is quite false. Trying to explain the complexities of this to ENfags who don't understand the difference between income and profit and use them as synonyms is quite taxing though

>>46305302
Just buy an ak and click heads, Ame, I beg thee

>>46305487
At least anons can have an easy way of quoting stuff and BTFO any retards that are trying to start shit. Might help out genuine newfags who just want to discuss things too.

>>46305448
I am going to sleep. He's not my problem

>>46305514
Provide a source for your ridiculous and incorrect claims or stop shitting up the thread

>>46305473
anons are retard, it's just a stream sponsored with drops

>>46305525
It’ll also help the oldfags who have dementia

>>46305492
It's funny to think that Nijiintern is doing all this to avoid Niji chuubas filing a lawsuit asking for royalties. There is a reason they don't use graduated chuubas in any content. It is to avoid royalty lawsuits.

>>46305514
Prove that they don't get a share of the cover merch.
We already know they get some from personal paid merch, no need to post that one

>>46305543
There was a chart that someone posted before that shows that talents get a profit split of merchandise they produce, while licencing only gets an income distribution which means wages / bonuses. There is no profit split for things produced by Cover licencing out the IP, at most the talents receive a bonus payment but they don't get a proportion of the overall earnings.

>>46305647
You ignore everything on that chart.

>>46305647
So your source is a "chart" that you don't have and probably don't know the source of if it even exists? That's not a source.

>>46304288
Seto is sex. Why'd they skip her

>>46305647
where is the chart? I did not get to see that.

Reminder that if nijiintern merch appears you can btfo him with these two posts
>>46245836
>>46245727

>>46305709
They skipped everyone to get to the idol like groups

Ame getting a Twitch Drop from CSGO? or whatever you call it

>>46305255
scopeless sniper play is a meta in CS

>>46305394
Unironically kill yourself internigger and while you're at it, bring your en organs along with you as well. Not only you're so fucking wrong, you're also extremely annoying.

>less AI fucking shit up in mid stream, which effectively discourage content that include music even if you do have full permission
>less restrictive, can do react content, watchalong with vid on stream, subathon etc., in addition to all the content you can stream on Youtube
>no CCVID, Z, culls, shadowban or other shit
>stable server and content delivery, less traffic fuck up, less stream dying, smooth livestream
>most livestream features available as they are one of the oldest and most established streaming platform, has better livestream browsing than Youtube
How is Twitch far worse than Youtube?
>the culture
You don't have follows their culture if you don't want, Youtube is also full of different culture, nijisanji are also on Youtube, does that mean Hololive has the same culture as nijisanji?

What's with the twitch begging? Your platform is dying bro, you indies are going to lose your discoverability after more streamers are moving off the platform and you're begging in /#/ in hopes some intern fuckwit reads it?

Grim.

>>46305789
unskippable ads that go for 30 seconds which also bypasses adblock

>>46305746
Those confirm what he's saying

>>46305789
Twitch is useless if you have a YouTube fanbase and they don't have an algorithm to spread your music and clips

>>46305789
i don't want them to be part of the twitch clique, all of them are leeches

wamy watching something on twitch later, its over sisters

>>46305746
The problem of this schizo is that "income distribution" means Holos/Homos are not paid, and that the term must be "revenue sharing" as proof that they got a cut in the share.

>>46305865
Is there even a popular Twitch singer/artist? I feel like they just have softcore amateur pornstars.

>>46305408
that's not bad compared to some even earlier waves
not big holo numbers but at least they got a consistent viewerbase vs whatever the fuck nijiEN is

>>46305789
How about the three unskippable 30 secs ad the moment you open a stream?

>>46305746
>The merchandise sales we have been doing so far have focused on custom-made goods sold on anniversaries such as anniversaries and birthdays of celebrities, rather than developing goods like those sold by ANYCOLOR
The talents pay for birthday and anniversary merch themselves. There's no mention there of licenced goods. You just backed up what I was saying.

>>46305913
If they do, they would upload on YouTube.

>>46305789
Well, because the majority of Hololive is not 24/7 streamers and you know what Twitch does to channel that don't stream

>>46305789
They're a dying platform squeezing their creators with bad deals (no more premium deals for big boys, it's 50/50 for everyone), horrible ad stuff that kills tourists (because if you're a curious new viewer and you click a stream and get a 30 second pre-roll, you often just fuck off)
Charlie (MoistCritikal) does a new video complaining about this like almost every week so just check out his shit I guess. If you already have a Twitch fanbase, you can't leave because a lot of them won't follow you. But if you have an established YT presence, no reason to switch.

WELLLLL NUMBERFAGS?!?!
>ready to crawl back to your goblin cave?

>>46305903 (me)
That schizo is a retard. The blue arrow shows the revenue flow. And it shows that talents ALWAYS gets part of the revenue.

>>46305861
weird because after that post these two posts were made and then died
>>46246406 >>46246494

>>46305903
To be specific they ARE paid but they're getting a one off payment. They're not getting a proportion of the overall net sales, at least not on merch that Cover produces or licences.

>>46305789
Twitch is too one dimensional (streaming only) and having one dimensional demographic too

>>46305957
How did 4chan become the go to website for vtuber discussion?

>>46305789
>no VODs
>unskippable ads
>no members posts
>no community posts
>no VOD timestamps because no comments
>no members only stream without a preview
>no recommendation algo, making streamers run garbage content 24/7
Twitch is incompatible with most of Hololive.

>>46305962
>And it shows that talents ALWAYS gets part of the revenue.
Yeah as wages. Not as a split of the sales.

>>46305944
Well maybe EN3 will be perfect for twitch.

>>46305998
>reddit dying
>discord run by cliques
where else can you go besides flipbook ?

>>46305983
source?

btw IRyS has been using this type of brackets(『) instead of the usual ones (【)
What are the number related implications of this? does it affect the algorithm in some way?

Alright, how many for Pikamee? Cab she 40k?

Did Indonesia move their Primetime 6 hours earlier? Why is there so much ID overlap right now?

>>46305983
Source: Your asshole
Nothing of the sort can be inferred from that flow diagram

>>46305944
Any anon who says you “don’t have to participate in the culture” of a platform is a fucking retard or a disingenuous troll. Seriously, why do they say this other than to get (you)s?
There’s a reason these corporate people always go on and on about “platforms”. Websites like twitch and YouTube are trying to keep you in their ecosystem, they’re basically trying to infect you with their culture. YouTube’s is just less annoying than Twitch’s.

>>46306022
His source last night was that the girls never said they get money. That's it

AMELIA 5K DORYAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>46305998
It’s not. The fanbase splintered into a million discords and private groups (like most of the internet, and for the same reason).
This place just happens to be the currently largest **publicly visible** one

>>46306088
on Twitch

>>46306054
An income distribution is pre profit. Meaning it's treated as an expense. That rules out being a profit split by definition.

>>46305983
Ah another CCP (Paul Li)strat, spread lies enough it becomes a real. Tiananmen Massacre happened you zhang.

>>46305966
Retard is playing with words and making assumptions.
The main point is that talents get a cut, whatever form that is. But the intern is going went for mental gymnastics to btfo enfags.

>>46305957
What I find funny is that all of this can be solved by just asking some of the members.

Enshit

>>46306132
I'm willing to be proved wrong if you can produce a single Holo saying they get a share of revenue from any merch that Cover licences themselves.

>>46306131
Thank you for letting us know how Nijizhangji works, Paul Li

>>46304825
Coco was popular. Pikamee is not.

>>46306058
The reason why Twitch can easily infect streamers with the culture because the only way to get numbers is with blessings from top twitch streamers

>>46306074
and how does he know they said that? seems like a lot of talk without proof to back it up

>>46305903
It's revenue share in their official translation. Cover's margins are awful because they share everything with the talents. You can literally see where their gross margin dropped from 48% to 38% in FY2022 when merch/IP became 50% of their revenue.

>>46306187
i want them to transfer to twitch so they get invited to the twitch orgy parties

>>46306180
Show numbers, not words retard. Reports are there. Cover gets less share than Anykuro.

>>46306180
People have been asking for proof for 2 days and you didn't delivered. Can you link some proof they don't get a cut or are you just going to ignore everyone asking?

>>46306031
It's the Japanese quotation mark, you see this a lot in Japanese manga, most well known case being Jojo

>>46304740
Nijiseethe

fun shitposting with you fags but now i can sleep, enjoy the graduations

>>46305983
>distribution
I don't know how you read that as one-off.
It can be interpreted as "sharing" or it cannot be properly interpreted. I won't totally trust my interpretation since my interpretation is based on translation, not in kanji.

>>46305861
>>46305966
>>46306146
>>46305903
The problem is IN THE ENGLISH VERSION THEY USE REVENUE SHARING. But like always there's that one retarded nigger who decided to use JP version of the file and MTL the whole thing

I'm tired of this timeloop

>>46306035
ramadhan anon good time to ngabuburit by watching stream and the usual primetime is kinda worse because of Tarawih prayer

>>46303951
Japs do

>>46306245
Oops image too small, this should be clearer

>>46306215
They would never say if they did. He is using the lack of evidence as evidence.

Same logic as saying they get 100% of all merch. Proof? They never said they don't

>>46305998
>introduce new form of digital entertainment
>corpos try to figure out how to monetize it
>this causes tension within fanbase, which is normal
>corpos try to censor discuss to avoid looking bad, which is also normal
>discussion migrates to the one website where no one gives a shit about looking bad
It’s basically impossible to discuss what are essentially e-celebrities without it turning into a stifling hugbox or an anti hub. /vt/ is somehow the closest there is to a space that balances both.

Right now, there are Youtube intern fighting Twitch intern

>>46305957
shocking

>>46306131
You're just speaking nonsense.
Income is the money a company gets for selling goods and services. A distribution of income would be sharing out a portion of that income to recipients (here, the talents).
These terms have nothing to do with all these extra inferences you're making. I'm really going to start to buy the idea that you're actually a Nijisanji employee who doesn't understand that companies can be run differently than Anycolor

>>46304187
Morischizos are as always retarded

>>46306274
well, get ready because last one was 6 hours of it

>>46306031
It probably helps get her some Japs.

>>46306232
I always laugh when Nijifags try to tell me their vtubers are getting better deals.

>>46306258
>Enjoy the graduations
Thanks? You too

>>46306243
Because that's not how business works? It's like saying that your oshi flew a rocket made of cheese to the moon and pointing out that actually no she didn't because that's not how rockets work. Like if you're totally ignorant about business then you might think that's a remuneration structure that could exist but in reality it couldn't because of how companies operate. A lot of people have misconceptions about how companies work internally because most ENfags are fat NEETs and usually commies to boot.

>>46304152
in 9000 years

>>46306226
See pic related

>>46306324
>niji
>them
>cod

>>46306268
it's also revenue share here as a major cost item

>>46306324
pronouns/cod/pedo/unityfag. adds up

>>46306324
Why the fuck these people always attach themselves to some kind of eceleb?

>>46306364
You responded to me asking for proof, but you didn't post any. Why is that?

>>46306364
Provide a business website or book that talks about this retarded idea you have. You should be able to find something like that, right, since it's such a common and universal idea?
You're convinced that a talent can't receive a share of income from merch they didn't design, like legally or something. There's no rule, regulation, or law, anywhere, that says this. And I guarantee you can't find one.

>>46306413
because if he shows proof he would be leaking information about nijisanji

>>46306324
>sapling
Can’t say I’m surprised

>>46306413
You're an ENfag so you're barely above brainstem functionality. Should I really waste the time explaining to you how contractors are remunerated by corporations?

>>46306364
>Number thread
Post number please! Enough with your schizo paragraphs.

>>46306226
Damn, Niji intern BTFO'd. No wonder we don't see much Holo vs Holo drama. No one wants to poison the well with this much good perks.

>>46306364
>most ENfags are fat NEETs and usually commies to boot.
So who are you? A CEO?

At least the timeloop moved from
>Holo girls get zero for merch they don't produce themselves
to
>Holo girls get something for merch they don't produce themselves, but it is not proportional to the sales
Timeloop long enough and you guys will get to a consensus

>>46306459
Getting a Nijisanji gig is signing yourself up for a upper-middle class job if you're one of the lucky ones who gets traction.
Getting into Hololive is literally winning the lottery.

>>46306453
Proof doko?

Paul Li got triggered with the word slave.

>>46306324
>he/them
how the fuck does this work?

>>46303604
KamitsubakiFes Day 1 saw

>the unveiling of a vocaloid unit, VIP, based off the voice of the 5 members of the VWP
https://twitter.com/musicalisotope/status/1641689281730338818
>first VWP album announced for this summer
>Kaf is singing the theme for Tokidoki Bosotto Russia-go de Dereru Tonari no Aalya-san

>>46306364
Retard

>>46306459
Just link the niji intern this image every time he tries to start this. It's mathematically impossible for Cover to be getting the most of the merch revenue with that gross margin hit.

Holostats still down?

>trying to downplay Riku's atrocious merch cut with rrats about Holo merch cuts

Why Niji intern so assblasted about Hololive girls making more money, a fucking? Roboco bought house and studio in Tokyo

>>46306532
>KAF sing another anime theme
Kamitsubaki is very active for that

>>46306593
He must clutch a win for his company please understand

>>46306439
>You're convinced that a talent can't receive a share of income from merch they didn't design, like legally or something
Legally, they can but no company ever would because pic related. Giving vtubers the economic benefit of merch they didn't pay to produce is essentially giving them part ownership of the IP. If Cover operated the way you think it does then Coco could sue Cover for her model and win.

>>46306324
>He/Them
>Pizzayum
Cheese pizza enjoyer in the wild

>>46306593
Order from the higher-ups, as Cover namedropped them in their IPO KEK

>>46306611
His black company is making more money than Cover. 5B JPY net income for Riku vs 1.4B net income for Yagoo. Aieeeeeeeee.

So what merchnigger is saying is that Cover doesn't revenue share and they misled the investors? Wow that's a crime isn't it? Pretty tall accusation I'd say.

>>46306226
This is the main reason Cover's stock price is awful. Why would profit-hungry investors invest in Cover when there is Anycolor?
But I am happy since these kinds of investors got filtered out and actual fans buy the stock. Cover is in good hands.

>>46306593
damage control for the leak stock and sale NijiEN merch

Oh also it's a deflection from Gundou.
Almost 100% hardconfirm termination, her past sins gaining traction to mass JP Twitter and making on news today

>>46306615
just tell your retarded organs to stop visiting this if he's that fucking insecure you nigger. Stop doing this fucking timeloop all over again. Kill yourself

>>46306593
Don't forget that Kiara has vacation in Rome, Italy, Maldives, Japan and Korea. She also thought of becoming a land lord if she stops being a Holo

>>46306615
Anon the model is just a tool on a worksite you can't sue your employer for the tools they lend you. Also as far as structure goes its a jap company, burger precedent doesn't matter.

>>46306657
Gundou and that green Niji guy are the most hated Nijis. It's amazing how they are still alive when more popular Nijis got graduated.

>>46306226
So wouldn't the advantage of paying your talents well be, getting higher quality talents?
The payoff would be, poaching talents from Nijisanji looking for better paying jobs.

Why doesn't Cover do that?

>>46306364
We want proof/data/spreadsheet or whatever you can provide to us. Not rumbling paragraph made by bing chat

>>46306615
Can the girls choose to not be in cover merch?

>>46306585
No wonder they birth out so many chubas , nijis work for free lolol

>>46306703
>you can't sue your employer for the tools they lend you.
Ah but you can if your employer is selling merchandise based on those tools and giving you a cut of the profits, making you an economic beneficiary and an implicit owner of the tools.

>>46306714
Talented Nijis got promised a big push. Just look at Nornis.

Wooden frame deflection thread

Anyone still keep the clip link which that guy from exNijiID seethe about 2-3views in Niji basically don't get a dime from the company to fund their project and they can only live off from donation ?

>>46306657
It's crazy that Niji goes full character assassination when they get rid of someone. Were they always like this? I never really followed many of their streamers. I know gundous a bitch and all but zaion and now her getting all the skeletons aired out instead of just saying contract violations is kinda fucked.

>>46306657
Niji Interns are propagating all this stuff that was mysteriously somehow never known, its to burn her reputation to the ground after they cut her just like the recent EN graduation.

>>46306632
>Why doesn't Cover do that?
Anon... Nanora

>>46306774
Did you see their concert. Ame did a better job with scraps a year ago

>>46306711
suck the right dicks and a woman can get a way with a lot of things.

>>46306613
They're a weird company. Ciel's first original was the insert theme for a movie, and said movie animators made her a fucking insanely high effort MV on par with Watame's My Song or Marine Set Sail, and then she was just left to rot for over a year with the occasional cover coming out.

https://youtu.be/KD14CW-j2sA

>>46306797
because nijis favorite tactics is to bring everyone else to the same level as them not by improving. Also this intern wants to hide the fact that they're still selling their organ's merchandise after they graduated.

>>46306031
They are cooler

>>46306657
I feel sorry and laughing about nippleman and he almost got terminated but Gundou seriously deserves it

>>46306657
after that video if it's real may lead to people thinking "what if there are more like her inside nijisanji?" and probably would ruin their name if not SILENCED

>560k subscribers

>>46306742
Why would they? It's free money. They just need to shill. But they can if they want to, pretty sure, since they can also choose sponsorship and/or advertisments. Gura mentioned she declined a PC case sponsorship since it's just low effort stickers

>>46306826
sorry that they spent most of their time having to deal with and sue a nijischizo that doxxed one of kamitsubaki singers

>>46306849
Ollie will save her

>>46306615
>Citing the United Nations system of national accounts
Anon this is a manual for compiling and comparing measures and statistics of macroeconomic activity internationally, it has nothing to do with Japanese commercial law.
This is one of the most retarded timeloops in thread history

>>46306657
So the nijisanji hatecrowd sourcing is going to be a thing going forward huh?

>>46306615
https://www.imf.org/-/media/Files/Data/Statistics/BPM6/approved-guidance-notes/g5-economic-ownership-of-intellectual-property-products-recording-of-intramne-transactions.ashx
>pic related is about how the IMF determines which entity of a multinational corporation owns what in national accounting for macro economic statistics such as GDP
Holy fuck you're desperate.

>>46306858
She can try to help herself by implying that she may have gotten that idea from some other liver

>>46306888
Bad people flocks together

>the OG Love Live mobage is finally dead
i haven't played for a long time, but i'm still sad to see it go.

>>46306773
In burgerland maybe, but JP don't care about such things. If a graduated EN managed to get cover in a court on American soil, maybe but even then these are IP owned and codified in Japanese copyright, not american.

>>46261062
kek. Doing archive reps. WTF is this tally
I hope this is just trolling/shitposting

>>46306615
>>46306773
>>46306615
See >>46306572 and fuck off

>>46306742
No. They have no rights over the IP whatsoever.

>>46306657
>and making on news today
Making on regular news?

>>46304193
Relax time my ass holy segg

>>46306882
qrd?

>>46306920
Not even in burgerland. You can sign that shit away. Niji intern is desperate

>>46306880
That's why I am asking. If they can turn down appearing in cover merch, why would they do it if they didn't get anything in return?

>>46306932
Cover won't force it because they are not a black company like Anycolor.

>>46306928
New chumbuds cope, since vod views don't work for them anymore.

>>46306902
That's the legal definition of ownership anon. Cases have been won and lost based on who is receiving the economic benefit of the asset.

>>46306955
https://twitter.com/kamitsubaki_jp/status/1640277482879459328?s=46&t=MPYor7ZdQRNldkGscgLcgQ

>>46306955
one of them was a niji graduate that goes by the name Chitose.

>>46306928
It is. He said that he did it as a shitpost to bait people with

>>46306882
why are nijiniggers like this?

>>46306898
If Niji want to save their liver from getting crowd pitchforks they usually delete evidences from any platforms. Gundou is very unusual, they just let the crowds murder her

so is bad to paying your talent and making unique merch because the profit is going down
and is good to pay talent bare minimum and use the merch over and over again because the profit going up?

>>46306928
Chumcuck cope 2.0 now they're getting mogged in VOD views too.

>>46307011
because they are quite literally the worst thing that's ever happened to this community

Oh I fucking get it now. This nigga has been trying to defend Anykara still selling merch of graduated chuubas for the last 2 days. This is so dumb lmao

>>46306992
>>46306572

>>46307005
oh right, i think i heard it days ago

>>46306960
The girl themself are partly responsible for their image, in the case of big shill like Gura she can just pick whatever sponsorship she felt like.

>>46307005
Dustcell, not even one of the Witches. Half the Witches were scouted by P-san when he was trying to get vsingers set up for Sony before Luna exploded in their face and they gave up on the whole thing.

Lots of niji black company projections these days

It's like battle royal in nijisanji, if you not popular or in a clique you will never be push. Truly a Black company.

>>46307011
because for nip nijiniggers, leaving niji for another company to become a more successful chuuba/singer is a sin worse than murder

>>46307098
I wonder if they have health insurance?

>>46306989
>>46307027
Okay okay no need to say it twice samefagger

>>46304899
Can they even beat gura

>>46306572
>It's mathematically impossible for Cover to be getting the most of the merch revenue with that gross margin hit.
Technically that's because most of the merch is paid for by the talents. That includes anniversary merch, birthday merch, stuff like Lamys sake and Mikos Taiyaki. Licencing makes up a comparitively small amount of overall revenue, as you see on the chart, 10% compared to the 35% of merch paid for by Holomem

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3SGdPwmy6k
reminder

Didn't one of axia group guy talk to him about his graduation and he mention he was confirmed graduate weeks prior and funny enough a day after that talk, niji release his merch

>>46307101
Unnnnnnaaaaaaa! I'm glad for luna

>>46306992
Gura already gets economic benefits from her model every day when she streams. Why is this different?
>Because she did no design work and/or put no money into the cover-produced merch
Her work as a streamer is promotional for stuff like her acrylic stands and it makes sense that she might be compensated for it, at a reduced level to other merchandise, commensurate to her reduced involvement. It's no different from any of her other revenue from Cover.
Who are you desperately trying to convince of this idea? Yourself? A particular individual or set of individuals reading this thread?...

Another 3rd gen sponsorship?

>>46307197
Announced since the beginning of March anon

>>46307165
Doesn't matter how you slice it. Their COGS went up by 5.3B JPY and revenue share is part of COGS.