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>>46240699its closer to symbiosis than leeching
>>46240705Recent clip numbers>>46170832>>46170866>>46170893>>46170949>>46170982
From last thread, a better formatted version of the same data as in >>46240172, with the sold quantities instead of the 100k stock minusMissing from this is the date when the merch started being sold because Ayame's, for instance, started yesterday-- JP --Hoshimachi Suisei Birthday & 5th Anniversary Celebration>6430: Birthday & 5th Anniversary Merch Complete Set>656: Canvas Art>5822: Random Rubber Keychain>1939: Sui-chan Cushion>816: COMET Clear Shoulder BagHakui Koyori Birthday Celebration 2023>2004: Birthday Merch Complete Set>143: Canvas Art>1197: Certificate of Koyori's Assistants>1219: Rubber Mat & Card Sleeves>171: Situation Voice "Spending My Birthday With You"Sakura Miko Birthday Celebration 2023>1505: Birthday Merch Complete Set>612: Double-Layered Acrylic Panel>859: Matching Backpack with Miko>1126: 35P Costume Mascot Keychain>1833: TumblerMomosuzu Nene Birthday Celebration 2023>1226: Birthday Celebration Full Set>40: Acrylic diorama stand>1109: Random acrylic key ring>119: Momosuzu Nene plushie>76: ASMR voice "Sweet flirting voice">77: ASMR voice 'Naughty Doki Doki Voice'Nakiri Ayame New Outfit Celebration 2023>868: New costume commemorative full set>140: B2 tapestry>355: 4-connected charms>307: Poyoyo Yasuyasu Eye Mask>139: Poyoyo Slipper>71: Situation voice: "New costume unveiling voice".Robocosan 5th Anniversary Celebration>764: 5th Anniversary Merch Complete Set>87: Acrylic Diorama Stand>202: IC Card Sticker>327: Necktie>214: Hand Towel>46: Situation Voice "Spring After-School Date with Robocosan"-- EN --IRyS Birthday Celebration 2023>589: Birthday Merch Complete Set>135: The "Spring of Hope" TapestRyS(Tapestry)>582: The Tofu? Mouse PadRyS(Mouse Pad)>127: The Bloom & Gloom SlippeRyS(Room Slippers)Hakos Baelz Birthday Celebration 2023>549: Birthday Merch Complete Set>227: Strawberry Princess Tapestry>153: Sweetness Dessert Spoon and Fork Set>756: The Rat Sack Crossbody Bag>105: Situation Voice "Strawberry Princess"Ceres Fauna Birthday Celebration 2023>330: Birthday Merch Complete Set>61: Kirin's Bento Box>124: Kirin's Chopsticks with Case>106: Kirin's Water Bottle>194: Sapling Plushie>260: ASMR Voice "Private Tea Time with Fauna"Ouro Kronii Birthday Celebration 2023>291: Birthday Merch Complete Set>103: Eternity Acrylic Clock>41: Burger Time Box>86: Infinite Hug Boros 2WAY Neck Pillow>149: Situation Voice "Sleeping In"
What did we learn last thread, anon?
How do it pitch Enna against IRyS after this?
* YESTERDAY'S FINAL TALLY *>71,239: Ayame (Hololive)>36,784: Marine (Hololive)>28,932: Koyori (Hololive)>27,844: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)>26,958: Miko (Hololive)>26,639: Korone (Hololive)>26,220: Gaku (Nijisanji)>23,024: Pekora (Hololive)>20,053: Subaru (Hololive)>18,489: Miko (Hololive)>17,164: Nene (Hololive)>16,521: Suisei (Hololive)>16,188: Laplus (Hololive)>15,010: Watame (Hololive)>14,407: Choco (Hololive)>14,187: Ui (Indie)>13,573: Nerumero (Indie)>12,221: Chihiro (Nijisanji)>12,041: Met (VSPO)>11,540: Ema (VSPO)>11,521: Hayato (Nijisanji)>11,481: Laplus (Hololive)>11,357: Iroha (Hololive)>10,667: Lauren (Nijisanji)>10,468: Sumire (VSPO)
>>46240758you cantenna has admitted that she is discount irys
>>46240750hololive stream viewers are either SEA poorfags or literally bots
>>46240746I’m calling bullshit on these numbers.Fauna half of fucking Roboco?
>>46240746without geekjack numbers we can only use ENs numbers in a relative way, not in an absolute one
>>46240765>MARCH 2023 GOLDS1) Nerumero (Indie) - 32,543 - Genshin gacha2) Mio (Hololive) - 42,700 - Mahjong tournament3) Gura (Hololive) - 67,405 - 3D showcase4) Toya (Nijisanji) - 68,467 - Oekaki no Mori tournament5) Miko (Hololive) - 138,977 - 3D birthday live6) Marine (Hololive) - 39,525 - Minecraft w/Kanata7) Miko (Hololive) - 42,738 - Soulcalibur 68) Pekora (Hololive) - 52,296 - Clubhouse 51 totsu9) Subaru (Hololive) - 33,648 - Minecraft10) Suisei (Hololive) - 45,471 - Micomet mocopi Switch Sports11) Lamy (Hololive) - 44,322 - Clubhouse 51 w/Kanata, Chloe & Marine12) Shion (Hololive) - 96,477 - 3D birthday live13) Hal (Neo Porte) - 139,050 - VSaikyo 5 teams announcement14) Pekora (Hololive) - 32,152 - Minecraft15) Koyori (Hololive) - 106,097 - 3D birthday live16) Subaru (Hololive) - 34,808 - SMOK One-Block Minecraft17) Pekora (Hololive) - 34,863 - Slither.io18) Hololive (Hololive) - 103,296 - Hololive 4th fes day 1 free part19) Hololive (Hololive) - 95,002 - Hololive 4th fes day 2 free part20) Pekora (Hololive) - 38,617 - Minecraft21) Chiroru (Indie) - 97,523 - WBC semi-final watchalong22) Suisei (Hololive) - 160,044 - 5th anniversary 3D live23) Pekora (Hololive) - 52,542 - PekoMoona off-collab cooking24) Aqua (Hololive) - 39,020 - Minecraft25) Marine (Hololive) - 34,292 - Karaoke + announcement26) Miko (Hololive) - 49,612 - Soulcalibur 627) Pekora (Hololive) - 49,236 - Minecraft28) Marine (Hololive) - 54,460 - Holomen relationship updates29) Ayame (Hololive) - 71,239 - New outfit reveal>PER COMPANY25x: Hololive2x: Indie1x: Neo Porte, Nijisanji>PER STREAMER6x: Pekora3x: Marine, Miko2x: Hololive, Subaru, Suisei1x: Aqua, Ayame, Chiroru, Gura, Hal, Koyori, Lamy, Mio, Nerumero, Shion, Toya>2023 GOLDS>PER COMPANY69x: Hololive14x: Nijisanji3x: Indie1x: Neo Porte, VSPO>PER STREAMER26x: Pekora8x: Marine4x: Miko, Subaru, Toya3x: Hololive, Mio, Suisei2x: Koyori, Kuzuha, Lamy, Nerumero, Nijisanji, Okayu, Towa1x: Aqua, Ayame, Chiroru, Choco, Gaku, Gura, Hal, Himawari, Hinano, Ina, Kiara, Mito, Mori, Nozomi, Polka, Roco, Shion, Watame, Yashiro
>>46240746Weird, didn't miko have 4k limited sets or did this not count the limited ones
>>46240686I guess she drove away most of her paypigs during that incident, either that or the EN viewerbase is more comfortable with geekjack shipping.
>>46240750that the weakest holoen merch is equal or above the strongest nijien one
>>46240705/news/ anchorReply with a short description of the news and a link to the source!News from the last thread>Nijisanji new all male wave, debut starts April 2nd, JSThttps://twitter.com/nijisanji_app/status/1641274391987367942>AI Vtuber Rinna debut April 12th, JSThttps://twitter.com/ms_rinna/status/1640949405049057280>Kamitsubaki fest happening today and tomorrow https://twitter.com/kamitsubaki_jp/status/1641032454680223744\>Project V new episode on NTV March 30th, JST; Hosted by Riria Ito, a report on Holo 4th Feshttps://twitter.com/hololivetv/status/1641039720518934531Old news:>Interview with YAGOO during the listing ceremonyhttps://c-eye.co.jp/eq/ipo-eq/66679>Business Insider JP piece on COVER corphttps://www.businessinsider.jp/post-267448>Musk to change "For You" recommendation on Twitter, only verified accounts and accounts you follow will appearhttps://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1640502698549075972https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1640800519894736896>Stock and sales figure leak on NijiEN merch (the leak has been patched: >>46099339)>>46097530
*YESTERDAY’S FINAL EN TALLY*>3/29 DAILY TALLY5,328: IRyS (Hololive)5,179: Luca (Nijisanji)>EN GOLDS FOR MARCH 20231) Mori (Hololive) - 18,696 - Monopoly (w/ Amelia, Magni, Vesper)2) Vox (Nijisanji) - 8,614 - Return Stream3) Gura (Hololive) - 67,405 - 3D Showcase4) Amelia (Hololive) - 39,353 - 3D Showcase5) Hololive English (Hololive) - 57,045 - Myth 3D Collab6) Fauna (Hololive) - 6,793 - Penumbra7) Kiara (Hololive) - 24,018 - Myth Offcollab8) Shu (Nijisanji) - 10,195 - Return Stream9) Ina (Hololive) - 14,532 - Minecraft10) Vox (Nijisanji) - 10,791 - Charity Stream11) Pomu (Nijisanji) - 19,891 - Outfit Reveal12) Kiara (Hololive) - 9,341 - Karaoke (w/ Towa)13) IRyS (Hololive) - 8,742 - Minecraft14) Kronii (Hololive) - 20,086 - Birthday Stream15) Vox (Nijisanji) - 6,437 - Little Misfortune16) Shu (Nijisanji) - 9,912 - NijiEN Boys Mario Kart17) Baelz (Hololive) - 9,761 - Karaoke18) Vox (Nijisanji) - 13,240 - Unarchived Karaoke19) Ren (Nijisanji) - 12,746 - Unarchived Karaoke20) Mumei (Hololive) - 8,205 - Post-Fes Zatsudan21) Fauna (Hololive) - 12,942 - Birthday Countdown/Unarchived Karaoke22) Fauna (Hololive) - 16,885 - Birthday Stream23) Mori (Hololive) - 10,321 - Drinking Offcollab (w/ Lui & Chloe)24) Shu (Nijisanji) - 7,540 - Valorant (w/ Astel & NijiEN)25) Ina (Hololive) - 8,656 - Post-Fes Zatsudan26) Gura (Hololive) - 23,054 - Minecraft27) IRyS (Hololive) - 13,254 - Unarchived Karaoke28) Gura (Hololive) - 21,465 - Minecraft29) IRyS (Hololive) - 5,328 - Megaman Zero>PER COMPANY20x: Hololive9x: Nijisanji>PER STREAMER4x: Vox3x: Fauna, Shu, Gura, IRyS2x: Kiara, Mori, Ina1x: Amelia, Hololive English, Pomu, Kronii, Baelz, Ren, Mumei>POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)35p: Fauna27p: Vox22p: IRyS17p: Shu15p: Gura14p: Baelz, Mori13p: Kiara, Ina, Mysta10p: Luca9p: Axel, Mumei7p: Amelia6p: Pomu, Ren5p: Hololive English, Kronii4p: Fulgur, Selen3p: Uki1p: Pippa, Elira, Rosemi, Nina
>>46240683>>46240686Tracks with the data we have last timeOmaru Polka Birthday Celebration 2022 Birthday Merch Complete Set 3334Rubber Mat 984Global Fashion Statement! Polka's Secret Fan Backpack 1269Anywhere You Go! Static Polpeller Headband 237ASMR Voice “After your date with Polka... 286Uruha Rushia Birthday Celebration 2022 0 Birthday Merch Complete Set (Limited) 1800 $97.00Birthday Merch Complete Set 5251 $97.00Bride Rushia Acrylic Stand 1564 $33.00Couples Mugs 333 $33.00Lifelong Engagement Ring 2160 $33.00Yuzuki Choco Birthday Celebration 2022 0Birthday Merch Complete Set 1057Body Pillow Cover 253Devilish Rice Bowl 205ASMR Voice “Hug me, please?” 104ASMR Voice “Happy Birthday from Choco!” 72Yuzuki Choco Birthday Celebration 2022 0Birthday Merch Complete Set 1057Body Pillow Cover 253Devilish Rice Bowl 205ASMR Voice “Hug me, please?” 104ASMR Voice “Happy Birthday from Choco!” 72Nekomata Okayu Birthday Celebration 2022 0Birthday Merch Complete Set 3073Birthday Voice Complete Set 97B2 Tapestry 607Rice Bowl & Acrylic Stand 985Haramaki 2494 Situation Voices For Those Seriously Into Okayu 724 Short Situation Voices 144 Strange Situation Voices 1610 Short Voices 16Hakos Baelz Birthday Celebration 2022 0Birthday Merch Complete Set 511BOOM BOOM!! Rubber Mat 498Official BRUH Snapback Cap 176#CAFFEINATED Mug 165System Voicepack(japanese&english) 89Situational Voicepack “A Walk Home” 39Momosuzu Nene Birthday Celebration 2022 0Birthday Merch Complete Set 2440Rubber Mat 403Nekko Tote Bag 172Nekko Boxer Briefs 887ASMR Voice “Bedtime with Nene” 50Robocosan 4th Anniversary Celebration 04th Anniversary Merch Complete Set Limited Edition 16614th Anniversary Merch Complete Set 5B2 Tapestry 52Acrylic Keychain (Random) 287Matching Plate with Robocosan 20Matching Cutlery Set with Robocosan 42Sakura Miko Birthday Celebration 2022 0Birthday Merch Complete Set 5464Rubber Mat 518Loose-Fit T-shirt 443Triple Keychains 21535P Plushie 700
>>46240785shipping cost, we have to assume EN viewers used geekjack, at least if they were smart because you have to pay double on the official shop
>>46240686Considering Kronii sells absolutely shit as well on the single item merchs it makes sense.
>>46240789from the looks of it anon didnt include the limited ones>>46240785shipping
Today's goldhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-JVOPjZRQA
>>46240769>enna has admitted that she is discount irysSource?
>>46240818>2023 EN GOLDS>PER COMPANY59x: Hololive27x: Nijisanji2x: Holostars>PER STREAMER9x: Mori7x: Amelia, IRyS6x: Baelz, Vox, Mumei, Fauna, Ina5x: Gura3x: Mysta, Pomu, Kiara, Kronii, Shu2x: Selen1x: Ike, Flayon, Alban, Elira, Luxiem, Finana, Millie, Luca, Regis, Enna, Rosemi, Hololive English, Ren>2023 POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)76p: Fauna60p: IRyS59p: Ina58p: Mumei57: Mori54p: Baelz53p: Vox50p: Amelia37p: Mysta31p: Kiara26p: Luca25p: Gura22p: Kronii17p: Shu, Selen16p: Pomu11p: Uki10p: Axel9p: Millie, Enna, Ike8p: Finana7p: Regis6p: Elira, Rosemi, Ren5p: Flayon, Alban, Luxiem, Hololive English4p: Vesper, Fulgur3p: Sonny, Hakka, Magni1p: Meloco, Shinri, Gavis, Maria, Pippa, Nina
>>46240844she strives to become better like her oshi irys and calli anon
This Leo guy from NP Gen 2 is Australian?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PyLEYxFnqr4How did NP fall off so hard that hiring an EN made 0 waves?
If you're ever wondering why things are the way they are remember this:God is a holofag.Satan is a nijinigger.
>>46240791>either that or the EN viewerbase is more comfortable with geekjack shipping.She's being compared with other EN girls
Astel 3k ccv? Funny how branching from your hugbox help you to grow, hm?
>>46240857Mori I understand but IRyS? Really?
>>46240746Suisei I kneelYou should add the limited set numbers though
>>46240838You forgot your pekora image anon
>>46240861HEY HEY, let's leave satan out of this!>she cute!
>>46240859Male
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-uypbYaGL4Mirai Akari Final. With her gone, Siro is the last of the King Heavenly King.
>>46240819Why even bother with that shit if its not tallying from all the selling sites?
isn't cover trying to find a way to lessen the shipping cost?
>>46240750Enna is an IRyStokek
>>46240821Considering Kronii sold a daki only to straight up call the people who bought it pathetic incels I'm honestly surprised there's anyone left willing to buy her merch at all. Hpmobeggars aren't known for their propensity to buy large amounts of anime merch
Could get tally. Also for some reason my Youtube glitched and showed comments from Fantano video
>>46240903yes
>>46240859>How did NP fall off so hard that hiring an EN made 0 waves?He didn't collab with NijiEN or Stars
>>46240900Literally pulling a Roberu and seeing similar success, the path for homo growth couldn't possibly be any clearer and yet most of the retards will keep trying to leech off Hololive
>>46240859Neo porte gen 2 is flopping so hard.Their sub is pathetic and even more, their CCV is meh.They already have 1-2 2view.Even uproar has great sub count wise.
Guess who just mogged Gura on the same game
More clip numbers.Split today is 20.1M(-140k) HL to 13.2M(+350k) NJ.
Rio anniversary might make the tally before Suisei appears
>>46240940What's this?
>>46240750>>46240746People preferred right over left apparently.
>>46240932makes sense, isn't she from sea?
>>46240940so, is this like what Ollie did before?
>>46240689>leech strategiesMore like synergy or symbiosis.
>>46240900Honestly being a holostar is a debuff even if girls collab with you they will not normally flirt and such
>>46240961Graph.
>>46240859Their Gen 2 barely made any discussion here. Hell I knew they existed but nobody bothered shilling their debut. And thats me following NP girls now and then. The only one I remember of their gen 2 is Itoi and thats because chumbud Hal decided to produce a gura clone
CUT MY LIFE INTO PIECES!THIS IS MY LAST RESORTSUFFOCATION, NO BREATHING!DON'T GIVE A FUCK IF I CUT MY ARM BLEEDING
>>46240978Yup, he said he was inspired by her even
>>46240986>they will not normally flirt and suchHave you watched Astel's collabs?
>>46240969She's most likely gonna make the same amount from both.First day and last day are the biggest days for sales.Also I thought the guy was a Kronii anti and fudged the numbers but looks like they're real.
>>462409692400 total vs 1200 in 2 days. It's too early to tell anon but that nekkos underwear is peak kino.
More clip numbers, recent only (<2 Days). Other here >>46240961Split today is 6.0M(+20k) HL to 3.3M(+250k) NJ.
>>46240994>Hal decided to produce a gura cloneIs she good? A Gura killer?
>>46240969Nekko pantsu are nice, but I'd rather get Nene plush and gatcha keyholder if shipping didn't cost so much.
>More people will watch Okayu reacting to Gura than will actually watch GuraThe absolute state of EN
en are failures
>>46240931yeah, but that takes time you know how it is with production pipelines, contracts and bureaucracy in general
>>46241013>Kroniithat just means her jp and non NA mindshare is really weak.
>>46241025Graph.
Which will get gold? Shiraken collab on sui or Peko's gbf?
>>46241010I'm heterosexual
>>46240844Enna did not say that but picrelAlso, what is happening at NijiEN? Vox kneeling at Gura and now Enna putting herself below Mori and IRyS instead of treating herself as an equal.
>>46240969I'd rather wear nekko pantsu than have a doll lying around in my room
>>46240982It's so fucking hilarious how toxic some members of the vtuber fanbase community are, they take collab between content creators, which has ALWAYS been supposed to be a form to mutually benefit the growth of both parties, as "leeching" no matter the circumstances
Ah the classic holojp vs holoen timeloop from the nijirais
>>46241056Miyabi from StarsJP sold more than Kronii. Let that sink in.
>>46240994Doesn't help that this is the only image they have.
>>46241020I'm considering getting the plushie, but it's twice the price of Dino Gura before shipping and I can't justify the cost at the moment
>>46240968Rio's anniv stream>>46240978Yeah, would have been stupid if the guest were live anyways since the audio won't sync. Should have just said so instead of "don't wanna bother them" crap
>>46240961More clip numbers by Source.
rent free, last samurai niggers.
>>46240977Retard.
>>46240956their number is even worse than indie debut less than 6 month
>>46241056The shipping prices are apparently quite fucked up for SEA countries too, iirc Malay and HK shipping are equally fucked as US shipping.
>>46241013I hope management gives her a good dressing down for being a retard and killing her own brand now that JP management is taking over the branch.
>>46240746With the assumption that Fauna is doing only 1k signatures for limited edition (like Bae and IRyS):IRyS$182,455.55Bae$193,619.33Fauna $172,847.09Kronii$38,953.88Also I'm not sure why people are shocked at Bae getting more for her birthday; EVERY TIME their Mamas actually do art for their birthday merch people are inclined to buy more. This isn't even limited to Holo, either.
>>46241071ogey leech
>>46240940>watching fantanokekngmi anon
>>46241068It’s not anything new regarding Enna and Mori, she’s been an unapologetic Deadbeat from the start. IRyS being thrown in is different though.
>>46241090what about the cost at geekjack?>>46241082Miyabi streams. Consistently. Kronii hasn't done an actual stream in months.
>>46241114>38,953.88OOOFFF
>>46241068From the amount of supas and merch earning maybe Enna still think she is not much better than an indie.
Sad stars can literally never achieve numbers themselves without leeching someone else
>>46241126>IRyS being thrown in is different though.>>46240932
>>46240982https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HD1wLZwER4cehMore like SEKUHARA
>>46241114>Kronii>$38,953.88lmaoooo I'm not a unikek but this shit is hilarious
>>46241128That is the cost at Geekjack. Dino Gura was 3500 yen, Nene is 7700 yen.
>>46241114>Kronii that lowHoly shit. what the fuck happened?
>>46241082Just graduate kronii already.fucking useless whore
>>46241114>Cucks are still willing to pay almost 40 grand for merch of Vespers onaholeStill way too high
RUST IS A BIGGER BUFF THAN MINECRA->JAZZ MUSIC STOPS!
>>46241166She couldn't be bothered to do a limited edition. Meh merch.
>>46241107>JP taking over omega's Augeas's stablethat's just wishful thinking...
>>46241114Tfw 4 council is equal to half of nijiEN. But then anycolor takes much more share than cover so it's not like the livers are eating good from that 1.3m total sales kek.
>>46241106I wouldn't be surprised if the EN girls were pissed as hell since this directly affects their income (and Cover refuses to do reruns, not to mention Myth/Council don't get individualized anniversary merch).
>>46241144i mean some of the exid have said that their total earnings are worse compared to indies on the same level as them so it should be the same on the en side
>>46241126Yeah, fuck IRyS (literally and figuratively). She hasn't really done anything outstanding as a vsinger compared to Mori who is not a vsinger, and her covers has less views even comparing to Enna. She is successful as a GFE streamer but failed as a vsinger.
>>46241071It's a normal reaction if an oshi of a bigger fandom interacts with an oshi of a smaller fandom.
>>46241082How much did Miyabi sell?
>>46241166No limited merch so no FOMO
>>46241114Are people actually surprised Mika fucking Pikazo is selling well?I can't think of a more in-demand illustrator than her in the last ~2 years.
>>46241166Being a lazy fuck who also makes shit content when she can be bothered to work is not a good combo
>>46241114while the absolute numbers might be much higher because geekjack, the relative number compared to the other girls says it allunicorns proven right once again
>>46241189Fauna seemed rather sad (for her fans) than pissed which was why she kept trying to push people to go to geekjack
>>46240746I'm trying to calculate how much Suisei earned these past three months. Note that this doesn't take count of sololive tickets, sololive merch, and SC (lmao).
>>46241071>he thinks leeching is a vtuber thinghow new?
debuting male idols?is there an IdolSl@ve show i neved heard of?
>>462410363view. Cute enough I suppose but has similar problems with Niu about standing out. I call her a clone mainly because of the white-haired loli design>pic related
>>46241199Who's supposed to be the bigger one here though, Astel has better numbers than Niu in every way
>>46241106t. Malay
>>46241049>le ccv for different marketsIt's so tiresome with you fags
>>46241191if they don't move merch it's pretty obvious 50% cut is not in their favor
>>46241148I know about that, I’ve been following the thread. I’m saying that part is new. I a friend showing me clips of Enna talking about Mori when she was relatively new.
>>46241180Well achan is now taking over for the holoen channel and will plan content for the channel
AAAA leeching homo 8k!!!!!!!!
>>46241114>Bae, who's pro-homo collaber and open stars fans is outsell Kroniiyou can't make this shit up.this shit isn't even unicorn matter anymore, when Bae can outsell IRyS.but christ I don't expect kronii to sell that LOW
>>46241230>is there an IdolSl@ve show i neved heard of?vta
>>46241180A Chan is comandeering the HoloEN channel and JP management is sitting in on ENs meetings. High chance multiple ENs complained directly to JP management about Omegatroon while they were there
So most nijiEN are unityfags but only Kiara is a unityfag from holoEN side?
this male (girl) is expressing "him"self in an impressive manner
>>46241145you'd say the same thing before hololive was popular.
>>46241217It goes way beyond unicorns, otherwise Bae would be in the same situation.Here is something that should be completely non controversial>if you antagonize your most loyal audience and side with the people attacking them, they will cease to be your loyal audienceThat's something so obvious it should be unnecessary to be said out loud
>>46240932Why is enna even there in the first place?
>>46241233That's actually a cute design
>>46241126Well excluding one of them might feel awkward in this situation
>>46241114>Bae/Fauna/IRyS averaged around 182k for their birthday revenue>Kronii 40kThe true cost of unicorns are 142k USD per year
>>46241254>50%them moving merch would still be not enough since the cut is not 50 but 5-10% maybe 30 if we are being very very generous
>>46241281Failures together strong
As a burger this is how much Kronii merch would cost me.
Holly crap even okayu can pull 20k+ solo!
>>46241181But it does make Anycolor's profit margin more sexy. And that is all that matters for our shitposting sisters.
>>46241326I told people "20k is the new 10k" for Holos
>>462411814 council is already almost half of HoloEN anon
>>46241281>nijien>unityfagsits called leeching anon
>>46241324wow nice
>>46241324It is just 10 starbucks coffee.
>>46241309The three should be higher due to geekjack
>>46241254Pomu flat out said merch cut is worse than SC (35% at best).Their cut is most likely from 5% - 15%
>>46241223Sololive online ticket is such a fucking wild card i wouldn't be surprised if it was in the 100ks
Are we really using one website of two as a comparison?
>>46241211Honestly they all would've probably sold more if they got their Mama/Papa's rather than an external artist. I guess Fauna didn't want to bother Asagi after Asagi made all those accessories for her. And this is the second year IRyS hasn't gone to redjuice. Not sure about Kronii
Okayu is not sexy
>>46240746how about ID or Stars? i'm keen to know kaela's or kobo's.
>>46241229I'm just saying that there's never "oh nice, they are collabing and noth are growing from it!" It's always "HE/SHE IS LEECHING MY OSHI, THAT FUCKING WHOOOOOOORE DIEEEEEEE STOP LEECHING LEECH!!!!!"You know what I mean? This is always how the discussions ends at
>>46241353>Their cut is most likely from 5% - 15%You don't know that. Why are you saying something false?
Holos don't get a cut of merch unless they pay out of pocket for it. Merch that is designed and paid for by Cover goes directly back to Cover. There's no reason why talents would be getting a cut of merch that has their character on it if they didn't outlay anything for it, they don't own the rights to their characters.
>>46241162jesus
Im glad roboco didnt sell well because she is not a good apex player and probably has a fat ass
>>46241370All of their merch are limited
>>46241324Yea, I'm not buying from the holoshop until this nonsense is changed, so I've cut down on what merch I'm picking up...I'll still buy my Oshi's stuff on geekjack, but sheesh.
>>46240949it mostly homoEN who can't stop leeching Holos, most starsJP always collab with outsider.>>46241101Hal truly fucking up.how can their newest gen FLOPPED this harder than fucking uproar.do they even promote them properly?I just recently found out about their gen2 when I want to look for Neo porte number.
>>46241223Not like she gets much SC in the first place. Concert merch was 8k sets iirc (4k blue and 4k black), some anon should have the data for the other items. Just count 8k for venue ticket.Also week 9 Specter:Physical - 568Digital - 224
>>46241390They do. It's obvious smaller.
>30k for holo rn>10k for stars rnwao
>>46241353>>46241382Yeah for all we know it could be 0%.
>>46241362as a relative comparison between the EN girls, yes
>>46240746You telling me that top holos made 1-2 mil a day on this alone?
>>46241379because 80% of the time it is leeching even outside vtubers
>>46241281Think less in terms of “unity” and more in terms of Myth having had such an impact that the bulk of NijiEN hires, provided they’re pulled from the EN vtuber scene, are HoloEN fans.
>you'll never make a boy twitch and cum from laughter like this chad.
>>46241390read the pdf anon, it clearly state the merch revenues have a large cost for profit sharing.
>Risu voiceRetard!! I hate this retard!!
>>46241337I don't get your point, anon. Holoen is a tiny branch compared to nijisAnd they're definitely doing better than that cause geekjack, the better option for overseas,isn't counted. Which means everyone in council but kronii mogs vox, the top merch seller at the minimum, if they don't end up actually doubling him
>>46241362NO ONE is taking this as an absolute you monkey. It's been said IN THIS THREAD how people may have flocked to geekjack thanks to the shipping prices on holopro
>>46240746I need moom birthday NOW
>>46241125Hey man
>>46241369Ok faggot. Since you asked
>>46241219She could also tell fans to go to TensoAlthough I actually don't know how much cheaper it's going to be, I ordered all of Gura's recent shit through them so I guess I get to find out in the fall
>>46241397so when it's gone, it's gone. nahone.
>>46241349I mema so should kronii
Damn, I wish I could post Nekko butt
>>46241408They don't. Do you think voice actors get a cut of merch sold with the characters they voice on it? The only reason holos get a cut of merch is because they pay out of pocket to make it. If the talent doesn't pay then they don't get a cut because they don't have the rights to the character.
How can I verify the data?
>>46241464Fauna probably can't mention non official ways to get it
>>46241217Have you seen Bae number anon? she's outrank IRyS and Fauna who's without doubt unicorn-friendly holos. how do you explain that?have you ever thought that maybe Kronii is fucking suck? maybe her drama truly killed off her gachikoi & her casual fans?
>>46241446Especially for this song, why?So she doesn't clash with Rio?
>>46241355>>46241405Oh right we can calculate the sololive's venue tickets.
>>46241337The other half are merch monsters compared to those 4 though no?
>>46241289Bae doesn't hate her fans. It's that simple
>>46241464She could, but people won't. It's jumping hoops and people would rather the stability of just ordering it flat out. It takes a special kind of non casual buyfag(you and me) to use a forwarder. >>46241485It's still official though. YOU still order directly from their site, you just send it to a warehouse in Japan who packs it up and sends it to you
>>46241405みちづれ - From THE FIRST TAKE by 星街すいせい - 1,259 DigitalStellar Stellar - From THE FIRST TAKE by 星街すいせい - 2,179 DigitalSpecter by 星街すいせい total - 43,308 Physical / 10,243 DigitalStill Still Stellar by 星街すいせい total - 40,859 Physical先駆者 by 星街すいせい - 1,712 Digitalソワレ by 星街すいせい - 2,766 Digital放送室 by 星街すいせい - 1,984Hoshimachi Suisei 1st Solo Live“STELLAR into the GALAXY” - 14,938 Physical (Bluray)These are a week old
>>46241478I don't give a shit about voice actors, but the holo girls get a cut.
>>46240746Since most people outside of Japan use Geekjack. Doesn't this represent their popularity among JOP?
>>46241237Huh that's weird, I could swear a friend of mine was charged 12k yen on shipping for trying to buy Suisei's full set merch.
>>46241488It's because she's very dumb
>>46241390didnt their merch revenues have a huge chunk of it redirected to sharing profits?
>>46241324Kroniis merch infamously had many people complain about shipping, on twitter/reddit. They were posted in this thread too. I fucking told everyone itt the shipping shit would hit EN hard and cover needs to fix it, but you'd rather argue about fucking unicorns being the factor instead of practical shit lie how she didn't have limited merch and that only retards wouldn't use geekjack for her merch due to broken prices
>>46241289Bae was honest from day 1.Kronii did the unforgivable.
>>46240804First Stage Production (new REALITY Studios gamer/streaming group) indefinitely suspended one of their newly debuted talent Yuragi Riuhttps://twitter.com/1stpro_official/status/1641379747170074624no details. 20 days since debut. yt channel already deleted.
>>46241281Is it just me or does Kiara never actually feature the Nijis on her channel besides the Pomu collab? She only ever appears on theirs and didn't even invite Pomu for a call in despite being invited for Pomu's.
>>46241478Holo girls get the bigger cut anon same with stars getting a nice cut of theirs
>>46241519Only if they're the ones paying the productipn costs. Thats the key anon. Its the reason why Hololive has better merch than Niji because the talents design it and pay for it themselves.They don't get a cut of any merch that Cover designs and pays for because Cover fully owns the rights to the design.
Luxiem will be Scarle-tier soon
>>46241492Don't forget Hololive friends that's another 6000+3000 sales.
>>46241515You can probably include ソワレ, 先駆者 and the 2 first take singles into the list, the rest are more than 3 months old.
>>46241544Yeah, they get a share of everything with their name on it
>>46241273It's tragic really combination of voice and model is perfect similar to Gura, she attracted a ton of coomers with those tits and voice but she absolutely hates it and tried to make them go away for like 2 years now.
>>46241497She loves them even, maybe they just appreciate her hard work and Kronii is suffering for being lazy
>>46241402They didnt have the Gen 1 advantage of debuting to Vsaikyou with fucking Aqua. However a lot of gen 1 are 3views. The box isnt there. Wish NP had a clearer identity to sell the entire box
>>46241556That's the difference between UNICORNCHADS and twitter/dramafags anon.The former would still buy their oshi merch even with ridiculous shipping fees
>>46241592That's more of a company merch than her own her merch I think, she won't be getting much out of it.
>>46241556It’s a factor that applies to the rest of EN there too.
Why Suisei's merch sells so much, anyways? It feels like there a tier-gap between her and the rest of hololive when it comes to merch
>>46241584nope they still get a cut even with the ones they dont invest in although its smaller somewhere around 40%
Cover male(female) makes the tally!
>>46241584>They don't get a cut of any merch that Cover designs and pays for because Cover fully owns the rights to the designSource?
>>46241217Bae has more sales than Fauna or IRyS
>>46241114Oof, Kronii missed out on a pretty big paycheck. Which isn't a big deal, but I hope she gains some drive to improve.
>>46241489artist buff
>>46241584Nope. The girls get a cut of the everything. This isn't Nijisanji
>>46241588jesus, how much they've fallen.Might as well be Tempus tier.
>>46241556Doesn't that just show that hardcore fans will bite the bullet and pay the shipping fee?
>>46241556>infamously had many people complain about shipping, on twitter/redditSo does every EN birthday/anniversary merchspost proof of comparison if you felt otherwise
For homo yopi a buff wtf?
>>46241567This used to be EN small corpo behavior.What the hell is going on with JP new corpos?
>>46241592Yea, but that probably has a much different cut, with most of it going to Cover. Point being, Suisei is plenty wealthy and if she wanted to, could outright buy a house in Tokyo NP.....Or she could just roll more Gacha I guess.
how's Rio doing?Numbers?
>>46241429IRyS is not myth.
So if there is anyone that pays attention to JP homos, how does Rio make it?He was at the bottom with Uyu for a long time but seems like he worked his way with some quality karaoke and actually likable for JP hololive fans to give him some attention
>>46241584>They don't get a cut of any merch that Cover designs and pays for because Cover fully owns the rights to the design.but they do though? I think it was either matsuri or choco that said something about this
>>46241614Why aren’t Saplings buying then?Why is Bae mogging her?
Hololive talents get a cut of birthday and anniversary merch and any merch they do themselves (Lamy sake).Stuff like Nendos they don't, licencing fees for the character goes to Cover only.
>>46241625Only having 1 merch run a year is probably the main reason for it.
>>46241663DORYAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>46241663I think he Zed to 10kor got a raid.
>>46241663I think he beat his 3D debut
>>46241390Anon they still get some. Yes the character belongs to Cover but Cover isn't Anykara and understand that without the person behind the character the character would literally be nothing
>>46241556The shipping costs are outrageous and once again Hololive management needs to be severely punished.
>>46241584Nah, it was in a pdf that they will still share revenue with the holo like company merch and sponsorship
>>46240817>Sakura Miko Birthday Celebration 2022 0>Birthday Merch Complete Set 5464>Rubber Mat 518>Loose-Fit T-shirt 443>Triple Keychains 215>35P Plushie 700>$579,644I remember there is anon who reposting data from 5ch that Miko get $1.2M and Gura $1.8M. So that data is fake right? Last year when Gura released merch, holoshop merch bug was already patched
Rio 10k
>>46241625ADVERTISINGThe other girls don't advertise their merch nearly as much as Suisei does, to the point where she'll even use/abuse a fucking OUTFIT REVEAL to shill her merch.
>>46241663today's tally
>>46241506It is not "official" though, in terms of corporate endorsement. But it is indeed legal.
>>46241669Fuck you mean make it, it's a turbo leech anniversary stream, he's still a shitter
>>46241698A momentous day for homos
>>46241584Anon, niji gets a cut of the merch. They after all shill it and corpo shills get paid even if they dont invest.
>>46241614Nigger there is an option to buy it without the prices, it's called geekjack.
>>46241660Did you think JP vtubing was some impeachable beacon of goodness?Gamebu, Activ8, upd8, Roa-Meiro
>>46241114What about the owl?
Why is Iofi's mic still this trash?
>>46241680Nope. They get a cut of everything. If their name is on it, they get cash
>>46241279A-chan is a news to me, quite a jab at omegay since xim wanted to play that role but yagoo attending meetings doesn't have to mean more than he said himself about it, we don't know how many of those meeting he actually attended if it was one or two that's nothing really.
>>46241678Bae's merch is literally on its last days and Fauna's birthday was just 8-9 days ago.
>>46241625despite her best efforts, she gets a lot of gachikois
here's the graph
>>46241696It's gonna get patched again since the anon revealed how he got the numbers early on. Anyone with a brain can instantly figure out how he did it.
>>46240928Thankfully there's almost zero chance of this stealing Marine's gold.
>>46241680Holos get a cut of any merch produced by coverOutside merch is a different deal but they still get a very small portion of it
>>46241680>source:my asshole
>>46241680>Stuff like Nendos they don't, licencing fees for the character goes to Cover only.I don't think this is true, do you have a source?
>>46241750That's kinda sad, but yeah.
Since when is Mel a homo lover
>>46241669Rio is a social butterfly.From what I see he always tries to interact with other vtuber on twitter.
>>46241660the tap is dry. there are no more decent recruits or something. i assume they were sourced from REALITY app user base. that's like the equivalent of tiktok "vtubers"
>>46241716We're comparing sales within holopro's shop anon, what's your point?
>>46241660>This used to be EN small corpo behavior.you do realize this was the normal jp behavior pre hololive boom right?
>homo in the tallyGRIM>there are EN branch members who lost to JPHomoEVEN MORE GRIM
>>46241709they can still choose not to give a watch like Uproar's 3D debut, but Rio still end up the top ccv in the group.
>>46241694If Covers lawyers are allowing Cover to pay talents a cut of merchandise that they're not legally entitled to they need to be fired because that is a disaster in the making. Huge legal blunder that would open Cover up to massive liability
>>46241680Nice try, nijinigger.
>>46241478Do they have an input on the merch design though? That gives them the right to ask for a cut if that is so. Also, it is the initiative of the corpo if they want to give a cut to their talents.
>>46241702Oh... Reminds me of her advertising her merch during the Xmas relay
>>46241571Pomu collab also had 2 POVs so she never hosted one
Alright, I didn’t read completely through the thread but I skimmed somewhat through it and I just have to ask: Are we even able to verify — with 100% certainty — that these merch numbers are even accurate? If I’m reading right, they throw out 100k items in stock..? That makes no sense at all. We can visibly see through this data that NO ONE sells even remotely enough. You would have 50+ sets of merch that just sits around for an eternity, never to sell. Like, Roboco has as much stock as Suisei? From what was shown?Also, does this even add up to what previous financial reports have shown? Last I saw HoloEN/overseas sales were actually a sizable portion of merch sales, and this was LITERALLY confirmed through the PDF. Yet anon numbers don’t seem to reflect what the actual company is presenting. I only bring this up because I’ve seen cases where pulling data from sites doesn’t actually reflect accurately all the time. For instance, people get varying numbers when they try to pull out the viewcount of member streams through the source, with wildly different results rather than a small variance. Could it just be an inaccurate assessment?
>>46241666She’s the anomaly there, and, as >>46241306 said, it would be rude to exclude her in that specific scenario.
I don’t recall /#/ being able to numberfag merch sales before, how come we can see sales data now? Am I retarded or did something change?
>>46241478>If the talent doesn't pay then they don't get a cut because they don't have the rights to the character.That is a fair assumption but, based on the fact, at least on the JP side, the talent pays for their glorified 1 hour infomercial out of their pockets to be able to shill their merch in front of a 80k+ people, it is safe to assume most of their merch is "talent produced"
>>46241657>>46241621No. Kronii had a big daki so the packaging was different and that's what fucked her. Others weren't fucked by thathttps://twitter.com/dloowCh/status/1635571696303235072?t=W0BX_IBP2DPzXLx8m_gOtQ&s=19
>>46241804>they're not legally entitled tohow come they are not legally entitle to anon?
I wonder how nijibots going to make baits on purple boy since he the most soft gayest homo mem
>>46241625She doesn't have limited sets, her sales is just below Miko's anon.Also female fans are more likely to spend money in general
>>46241625There's a lot of stuff going on there I think.Some factors I would speculate might be contributing:> She's really popular in general obviously> She's really high profile right now with the 3D lives and the TFT stuff and HoloFes4> it's becoming a fanbase meme that her shit sells out and gets scalped, so FOMO is ramping up for all of her merch because the perceived value is elevated, even for non-limited stuff.
>>46241794Only required biggest leech stream ever
>>46241702Suisei's shilling powers are truly terrifying, her latest 3D live's CCV peaked during the shilling segment and then went back down once she started singing again
>>46240838Shiraken collab usually around 50k. But because it is on Suisei channel maybe around 60k. What are they doing? Playing minecraft?
>>46241749Looks like fine growth for a star after some tech problems at the start.
>>46241784Forever
>>46241804It's not a mistake. They pay them what they earn. That merch sold because of them
>>46241809https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dB3Ix4pum_sYes. But the thing is this is Suisei, the only Holo with unclear ownership of the IP.
based on picrel, Rio saved the best group for the last before uproar
>>46241834Most merch are made to order, only id have limited merch, the 100k is just one way to be lazy
>>46240928How high the chance she falls to kson scam and end up joining VshojoJP?
>>46241720The owl was from last year
>>46241850new website bug
>>46241854Limited Sale are easy to calculateThe NijiEn sales data are leaked because of bug like Hololive do in the paststill it's not 100% accurate either
>>46241834Its set to 99999 cause its made to order and does not actually mean they have that much in stock
>>46241794welp, management won, the females all have dead channels and the males are more relevant.
>>46241804This is what watching YouTube “lawyers” does to you
>>46241834100k is just a placeholder for "unlimited stock" since the merch is made to order
This thread is too much selective. Charismatic people will be praised for their wit when benefited from collabs while not charismatic people will be branded as leech
>>46241365The daki last year is drawn by Wada>>46241495>Ina, Gura, MumeiYep.
I fucking knew homos could do it. Those retards are the ones scared enough to collab with others outside of Hololive. Astel could've asked kzh and kanae for collabs like years ago
>>46241625>Extremely Popular>There's an entire scalper market built around just her merch
>>46241696The patch was fixed just a few days after Miko's birthday last year. I think those numbers are only for it's first few days.
>>46241897Her English is good enough. She is JP7, VJ or is done
>>46241911Are you saying that LegalEagle and RekietaLaw lied to me?
>>46241790The point is tha kronii's merch was larger, packaged differently, and thus not buy able through the normal store by the audience but through geekjack. The others had reasonable shipping prices, so there were no unicornchads needing to fork in 100$ for shipping, or they'd have just used geekjack too. Also bae's in the fucking lead this unicorn argument makes no sense.
>>46241754No company would do this because it would create an implicit part ownership on the part of the talent that would entitle them to a portion of merchandise revenue in perpetuity. Unless Cover are willing to pay Korone a cut of all merchandise with her character on it for the rest of her life they will not be paying any more than they're legally obligated to which is nothing.
>>46241663He got higher CCV than Ollie doing the exact same thing
RIO 11K DORYAAA
>>46241906whoops, meant for >>46241850
>>46241932No, I understand she got Wada last year. I'm not sure why she didn't bother this year too.
>>46241834>Are we even able to verify — with 100% certaintyNo, there is no such thing in nature or realityBut it is the best data the limited means to gather it allows for, and they're repeatable (in the sense anyone can run the same experiment and get approx the same data) so it's good enough
RRRAT ON HOMO
How many dakis did Gooba sell?
OMG the homo threads are numberfagging
>rat sings rat songhmmm
Pekora's ccv prediction?
>>46241956Why do you think they stop selling merch of graduated/fired talents you retard.
FAUNA HAS LITERALLY SAID THEY GET LESS OF A CUT "DEPENDING ON THE MERCH." MEANING THAT SHIT LIKE THE ACRYLLIC STANDS THEY STILL GET A CUT JUST NOT THAT BIGHOW IS THIS GUY EVEN MAKING THIS ARGUMENT THAT THEY GET NOTHING
Finally a good song.Isn't this getting close to one of the highest star ccv? lol
>>46241850>I don’t recall /#/ being able to numberfag merch sales beforekek, what a newfag>how come we can see sales data now?New "loophole" found in the Holo store, also a bug found on Niji store
>>46241985>n-numbers don't matter!>oh we're beating the females, now they matter, fire all the girls.
>>46241956>Unless Cover are willing to pay Korone a cut of all merchandise with her character on it for the rest of her lifeThey would. That's why they stop making merch when a member leaves. Rushia still owns her original song
>>46241730>iofigirl is so stubborn she keep the same audio setup for 3 years.
>>46241114Justice for kronii? I guess she should ybdd more.
>>46241492>almost 3 fucking million DOLLARS! The next time someone tells me that Hololive isn't a literal golden ticket, I'm slapping the shit outta them.
>>46242018just nijinigger thing
>>46241793>>46241719It used to take more than 1 month for the first members to drop, and it didn't happen to 3-4 different corpos in less than 1 month.
>>46242023Not if you count tempiss
>>46241850A TW Hoshiyomi found the shop bug last night
>>46241952If they were any good they wouldn’t have ended up making YouTube videos and botching that one VA who got accused of fucking underage con girls by saying he’d get them work.
>>46241985stop falseflagging please
>>46241680You have no sourceGura advertised the shit out of that nendo. So ddi other holos of theirs
>>46241956And that’s exactly what they do.
>>46241873Certainly had nothing to do with the timeslot change.
>>46241938Hope this spark them to start collab more with outsider.Now if only homoEN can take a fucking cue....
>>46242063Yeah that guy is just speculating and I think he's totally wrong. And you're 100% correct gura shilled that nendo hard, it was on her SC reading/zatsu sets for I think months. Partially for the memes and because it was cute, but still
>>46242039Those are the revenues she moved anon. She earns nowhere near even 50% of that. 20-30% at most.
Gold candidates for the day?
>>46242039Either they make too much money to be motivated, or management severely gimps them on purpose.
oh hi :D
>>46241952Yes, RekietaLaw are retarded to believe venti without asking her receipt, then he a retard to be taken seriously as a law advisor.
12K DORYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>46241965Sorry, I'm a bit tired. Not sure since I don't watch Kronii much, other than the usual "lazy" answer I think their schedule not matching would be the more convincing one. Or she wants another artist to do the art. They also did this one which she used as a thumbnail before, if I recall.https://www.pixiv.net/artworks/100350327
I FUCKING LOVE THIS SONG AND I WANT TO HEAR IT EVEN MORE!!!!
>>46241279It's already obvious when Yagoo said he attends EN meetings. Do you really believe he's attending the meeting just to practice his English? It's bullshit, the EN management is on watch. Now that it's confirmed that A-chan also attends the meetings and takes over the holoEN main channel, Omega is done.
>>46241965Who fucking knows man, Kronii has been completely fucked this year in terms of how much effort she bothered to put in. It's baffling really.
>>46241063I hope Peko get gold. Last time Peko get 67k. Today will be lower. Shiraken collab usually 50k right? But it is on Suichan's channel
>>46241680>nijinigger literally unable to comprehend a talent friendly companyFool that you are, the best shills for holo merch are holos themselves. Taking away their incentive to advertise the merch cause lol nu cut whatsoever is sales poison.
>>46242063>Gura >Advertising anything
>>46240746I only use GeekJack since no flipland shipping.
>>46241956Ok, now tell me where I can buy Coco's merch
Is he beating koyori?
>>46242118So... when is it gonna stop?
>>46242127I haev to say those pillows look comfy as fuck and the clocks are cute.Absolutely stole the show from the main even
>>46242141She did. Multiple stream she had that nendo in a jar on screen
Koyo....
>>46242112Pekora gacha 22jst or suisei shiraken collab 21jst
>>46241804That literally has nothing to do with it, not to mention that's wildly inaccurate. You're fucking retarded anon.
Karaoke totsu meta is real
>>46242118Kronii run!!!!!!
I know that europoors are a meme but Fauna (and Kiara) also have a sizeable euro base that also had to fuck off to geekjack.Like everything about the Holopro shop for foreigners are fucking shit
>>46242039That’s Revenue. She had to pay all the costs and from what Mori said the other day to make a decent profit on a Sololive you need solid streaming sales (which Suisei would have had) and just the money from in person ticket’s isn’t amazing profit wise.
>>46242053>>46242027>>46241892>>46241908>>46241923>>46241970Stop replying to the interns.
>>46242162>>46242182first army....
>>46241696yes they are all fakeit got fix on Miko's bd, so her data is only for 1 dayand anything comes after march 5th, 2022 are all fake numbers people pull out of their asses
>>46242118If this keeps up, she'll get to 1 million in 3 more months at least
>>46242118How long until she comes back?Kronii needs to be corrected
>>46241200Just out of curiosity, what is Irys good at in numbers perspective?
>>46242118Might even get 820k before she comes back>>46242175Thank takobro for those clocks' design
>>46242182good for the boy(girl).
>>46242182Fuck the coyote!!!! Literally and figuratively!!!
>>46242192Fauna did say that people should check geekjack for cheaper shipping as well, so I wouldn't be surprised if a number of people from the US used it as well.
>>46240997Did astel steal ike's nip viewers?
>>46242118Oh, silly me
>koyo got BTFO'd by homosnever ever call her first army candidate ever again
>>46242039yeah but they are literally SLAVES
>>46242232Being a cute bimbo
>>46241326Because she play minecraft, only Koyo streaming right now and waiting room for other holomem. Also get Gura buff because their interaction this morning
ATTENTIONWE ARE NOW ENTERING SEA HOURSATTENTION
Who guessed pink and white are the most popular colors?
>>46242141Why make claims about a chuuba you obviously don't watch? Gura had that nendo on screen for numerous streams and talked about it a lot
>>46242108That's still damn near a million dollars even if you only get a 3rd of that. And that's not accounting for the other good revenue streams like sponsorships which is suppose to be the other main money maker outside of merch. Plus whatever change you get from membership and YT ad rev. No fucking way this girls aren't millionaires already.
Is Rio a man or woman??''he'' is like Yugo, right?
>>46240746Holy shit Suisei.
>>46241804Thinking about it, vtubers are considered as persons in Japanese justice system right? Does it mean they also have the right to have some kickback out of avatar they are using? This is getting funnier.
Money doesn't buy freedom slaves
>>46242287he's built for my cock
>>46242287No Rio is a full man with a cock
I know 12k is really good for Homos but it honestly seems a bit low for having 45 guests and their fanbases as an audience.
>>46242065Highly unlikely. Yagoo would be out on his ass for failing his fiduciary duty to the company if so. Companes aren't charities and contractors are never given the economic benefits of ownership. I'm simply telling you that it doesn't happen period. They might give the talent a bonus but they do not get a share of the profits from Cover produced merch.
>>46241211Anon.. mika is a dude
Male voice on Rio's stream. Numbers will go down.
>>46242279Kronii pic debuff
>>46241884I am not talking about Suisei but Holo merch.
>>46242287build for being "uke"
>>46242294true, Elon Musk is the biggest slave of the planet
>>46242309Nah, it's honestly big numbers for homos because there's practically zero audience overlap
>>46242298Omg I hate so much Toga's rapist voice. Sorry homo but this is where I'm taking my leave
>>46242232She generally does well in superchats. Relative to the branch, at least.
>>46242304thank god he's actual twink not trannies like yugo
>>46241956why do you think they stopped selling merch of coco and rushia its because talents get a cut anon. Tts also the reason why nijisanji sold axia, gibara, lulu, mayuzumi merch (voicepacks included) even after they graduated its because its easier if the livers dont get a cut
I can't believe this Rio totsu karaoke thing is actually working. I wonder if a StarsEN is going to try to replicate it now
>>46242309This is as far as leeching can help them.
>>46242314I don't care.
>>46242309Anon. 20k was roberu's 3d debut(i think). They are a small fish in their own pond.
>>46242335If half the girls spent 50% of their 4+ hour streams reading SCs with SCs on they'd get as much as she does.
>>46242313You are wrong. They get a share of everything. That's why they stop selling merch of members that are gone.
>>46242313>Highly unlikelythats what they did anonnot every company is a black company like nijisanji
>>46242341I actually listened to notYogos ToT Musica cover the other day and it’s actually really good what the fuck
>>46242314Proofs?? I always see her being referred to as a girl
>>46242232Nothing. Recentely she had decent superchat numbers, but still not comparable to early Mori and Kiara
>>46242309Stars are real small fish. This number is impressive no matter how much "leeching" is involved.
>>46242287It's my wife. Back off nigga
>>46242345Ollie did it first, and hers even had some live live portion
>>46241353
>girls leave>numbers go downIt is the history of the homos...
>>46242294>freedom slaves
Rohto Z kimochiii~
>>46242294That’s literally how it worked, historically speaking.
Watch Rio's number drop now that the girls are gone
>>46242386Nijisaji can't foster talent
>Roblox collab that includes 2 Luxiem members>5koof
>>46242344I mean there’s also the fact that most people find the idea distasteful at best and at worst morally reprehensible
>>46242344>Tts also the reason why nijisanji sold axia, gibara, lulu, mayuzumi merch (voicepacks included) even after they graduated its because its easier if the livers dont get a cutwhat the fuck are you serious?
>>46242313>anon stumbles on a non-black-company and gets mind broken
>>46242314Holy retard.
>>46242313Are you the same retard who claimed that Mori lost money on her concert?
Man.. KAF is really killing it rn!
>>46242425I think this post to Ame's guerilla karaoke on twitch with no tweet and at a shit time
>>46242282I really hope Gura gets new stream assets soon. She has a solid enough ending screen now but she’s still missing that intro she’s been waiting on for like over half a year now. Plus new chatting/SC reading rooms.
>>46242313That’s not what fiduciary duty is or how anything works.
>>462422454th place boy....
>>46242039suisei is an outlier
>>46242314Retardhttps://twitter.com/hakosbaelz/status/1544171062937546753
>>46242294criminal slavechama...
>>46242363>20kNot even. It was long ago but think about 15k or less. And that’s still the biggest CCV on a homo channel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9tDDwU3WhoIMan, is anime all she ever talks about?
>>46242469entire hololive is an outlier
>>46242438they had a sale of axia merch the day after he told management he's quitting and mayuzumi merch was sold a couple of months after he graduated
>>46242438They put Axia merch on sale the day after he told them his plan to graduate
>>46242449I mean the venue was so full, how could she not
Kaf-chan is so autistic, bros..
>>46242287He similar to hideyoshi, a guy but people always think he a girl.
KAELA THE HAG SLAVE
>>46242450Auto-tine is killing my ears that's fo sho
>>46242450What do the runes say?
>>46242476>mama is Illustrator>papa is the one who rigging the modelyeah crazy stuff right?
>>46242497She is. That's why it's kinda surprising seeing her toned down her autism on Suisei's live.
Rio numberfagging...
There are 19-21 entries today from NijiEN so far and the highest stream of the day is 2.3k……..
>>46241952Are they experts on Japanese law? If not, then fuck off.
>>46242497>>46242450Is there a free part?
The numbers thread is finally talking about numbers...
>>46242481It’s why Bae is the only one able to put up with her.
>astel at 2k in hi collab> astel is being a whoreCan seaweed incline from this vsai ark? And all these new clips of him
>>46242489>>46242490and nijiniggers still think this company is not terrible?
>>46242438Yeah, they sold Lulu voice packs months after she graduated
>>46242476>trusting the gender of japanese animatorsnever again after i got bamboozled into thinking john k peta was a otaku guy and then got doxxed to be a high school girl when she started
>>46242551No but it's on the usual place
>>46242524"Sui-chan...""KAF-chan is so fuwafuwa.">>46242314>>46242530>Anon.. mika is a dude
>>46241956Retard
>>46242493If you’re not joking, you literally have to go out of your way to lose money on concerts. I’m talking in terms of The Who destroying their equipment on stage or Pink Floyd avoiding the venues from their previous tour when they were promoting The Wall.
>>46242576Oi
>>46242314Mika Pikazo is actually a woman, just like Asagi and just like Wada. The only dads in Council is (was) Pako, Azure, and Redjuice
>>46242538Did their bots break down?
Tokyo ambassador
>>46242422He actually didn't bleed that much, he's at almost 12k even after one full homo song.
>>46242580He actually peaked over 3k>Can seaweed incline from this vsai ark?He does incline after every APEX tournament, then pulls a "debuffson maneuver" and filters his APEX tourists out of his fanbase because he's a retard
>>46242589JK Rowling's kind of thing? Hot
>>46242512
>>46242422Did I miss Suisei?
>>46242563No.Now watch this cliphttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CPH9AxW3scU
Reminder that Shigure Ui and Pochi are men and not girls
This thread has reached 470+ IP's?? IMPRESSIVE.
Holy shit..
>>46242666I HATE THE ANTICHRIST!
Will Astel manage to turn this latest vsaikyo buff into a proper incline or will he go back to spamming solo endurance LoL to 500 viewerd
>>46242458Opening up the company to risk by creating an arrangement where talents become defacto part owners of their brand by being given a share in the economic benefit is a breach of fiduciary duty.It would be like if the VA of Goku got a cut of all the merch with Goku on it because she had a big part in the characters popularity. If that was the case then she would become a de facto part owner of Goku the character and even challenge for the rights if she was performing long enough.Why would any company create a situation where they would potentially lose the rights to their own IP to the performer by profit splitting unnecessarily? They wouldn't. IPs have been lost before when ownership becomes blurred because of who derives the economic benefit from it.
>>46242678a lot of people have been jumping on the holo clip animation train recently
>>46242688
>>46242313Why are you denying facts, lil bro
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFhAQHVq6WQGura can't even be proud of this title. Imagine if daisenpai elira gets this title.
>>46242706Astel doesn't give a fuck about numbers so
>>46242666What did the girls mean by this?
>>46242563I think HoloJP shitters falseflag as Nijis to attack HoloEN.
>>46242589>FemaleDamn, that's some rather degenerate fetishes.
what a fucking leech
>>46242416The fact they are still hovering around 12k is impressive.
What does it mean that Rio's ccv went back up with tempiss?
>>46241948You are right. This post >>42182622 also has Suisei and Marine merch. It means the data is fake
>>46242674Not yet
>>46242314there are a couple of pictures of her online somewhere
>>46242712but the talents arent defacto part owners of their brand anon it still belongs to cover?Its just that cover gives them a good cut on their merch as an incentiveyou are confusing nijisanji with hololive again
>>46242674Suisei is in the final block
>>46242674Suisei is a boy.
>>46242603I'll spoonfeed you as it was a hilarious thread. Some anon came in here and was claiming that when a concert sells all its tickets the venue would then want additional fees which would cause the concert to be unprofitable for the performer. It's been a running joke in /#/ ever since. Hopefully someone else has the screencap I'd like to laugh at it again.
>>46242679Still would
>>46242712Stop being a retard. Cover owns the rights and they choose to give them the money they earn from merch with their face on it. Why do you think we like cover?
>>46242736DEBUT YOUR OUTFIT ALREADY SLUTTY ORCA
>>46241528Yeah, it was 12k yen just for shipping cause I had to skip it t. sg
>>46242712Vtuber roommates aren't just voice actors anon, they're one and the same with their characters.
>>46242712Why are you pretending like you know Japanese IP laws
So the Holostar way is to just leech on Non Holo girls? Someone tell Yagoo
>>46242756nah this are nijinig posts along with intern kun trying to rationalize how nijisanji screwing over their employees is actually a good thing
>>46242767It mean tempiss fanbase fucking suck and doesn't support star
>>46242789You must have mistaken her with Towa.
>>46242712Vtuber = Content CreatorsVA = ToolVtubers work the create content and build the entire community surrounding the character while the VA just follow a script made by someone else. It's as if you are trying to compare a VA work like Kizuna AI and a content creator like PewDiePie
>>46242532Welp you always tryna act your best in someone else's house. God i hope there will be a time when Joucho collab with a holo
>>46242626In a way, they're afraid to raid each other
>>46242836But the numbers went up retard
I know it’ll probably never happen for doxx reasons, but holy shit if a holo ever got a body/head camera to use for streams it’d be ACTUALLY game changing for streams like cooking or card pulling. I know a lot of cooking channels do it, Kenji Lopez Alt for example uses like a fucking hardhat with a gopro or something strapped down on it to do cooking guides. Imagine the cooking streams where it isn’t in 360p quality with a blur on…
>>46242767JP and EN rarely have overlaps outside of ambassador streamers like IRYS and Haachama, Anya?
>>46242712You know people receiving royalties is a common thing right? If Goku’s VA was so integral that losing them meant canning DB completely then yes you’d pay them fucking royalties. You very clearly googled Fiduciary Duty without actually researching or understanding just how hard it is to prove or enforce in the first place.
>>46242791Its the same anon that said that Niji Family was only an EN thing
>>46242837Suisei, Towa, Kanata, all boys.
>>46242848Why? No seriously, qrd on this?
>>46242844RIM will be on Suisei's NHK Radio show so that's 2/5 VWP girls.
>>46242836reading comprehension doko
>>46242712>VA>being given a share in the economic benefitMaybe if the west had that automatically, the VA union wouldn’t be such a pain and hololive would get game perms already
>>46242479It was 17k. And it got beaten by last year Holoexpo with Yagoo, that to this day is their only 20k+ stream.
>>46242876They read this thread
>>46242862Guy doesn’t know that it’s common as fuck in the movie and TV industry. The guy who made Seinfeld is still raking in a shit ton of money from sales and TV airings
* streams over 5k so far on vrabi *>LEFT: Hololive>RIGHT: Not HololiveIt's not even the same league
>>46242712>Opening up the company to risk by creating an arrangement where talents become defacto part owners of their brand by being given a share in the economic benefit is a breach of fiduciary duty.>t. someone who only googled/wiki fiduciary duty
>>46242791
>>46242876Watch Spiffing Brit's latest video. Basically bad raids will kill your channel
>>46242712No matter what kinda shit you came up with the fact will not change, nijisis
Pippa >small corpo vtuber>no raids, no collabsMarch median peak: 2864Enna>major corpo vtuber>massive raids and collab spamMarch median peak: 2788Wew lad
Kek, cover stock is kill.What happend if the number went to zero though?
>>46242764I'm sure the person who wrote this is a woman. Are you jealous?
>>46242876The explanation I read is that their shit raid retention flags their channels with "viewers drop out really fucking fast" in the algo.
>>46242863Every day I thank gundou for forever putting to rest the nijinigger psyops about how nijien is uniquely bad
>>46242934The talents will be forces to whore themselves out to save the company
>>46242876https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5z0wUA4q1yA
>>46242815All the more reason not to profit split with them. It would be really easy for any Hololive talent to take Cover to court and argue they own the character because Cover giving royalties is an admission of their ownership. After all why would a company pay royalties if they weren't legally obligated to?Now I'm assuming Covers legal team aren't completely incompetent and would recognize this and would not allow any kind of unneccessary profit splitting that would create the appearance of the talents in any way owning the rights to their characters.
>>46242850Doesn’t that one indie Onigiri have some absurd cooking set up?
>>46242934retard
>Nene can't even outsell a bunch of nijiniggers despite trying to pander to unicorns and pricing her plushie double that of Gura with half the qualityWhat happened to Nene, why is she such a failure?
>>46242876i mean NijiEN and Ex-ID not supposed to be this close
>>46242538For a better perspective, not a single one of those Niji streams managed to beat Kiara's Metroid stream, which was 2.7k
>>46242905>They read this threadOH NO NO NO HAHAHAHAHA
>>46242314>Mika is a trannyGotta support the cause
>>46242712did you seriously just compare voice actor to a fucking soul behind the vtuber? Do you even understand how vtuber business works?
>>46242966GURA IS MINE AND I WILL KILL YOU ALL IF YOU TOUCH HER
>>46242886Really!? Source??
>>46242921Given the number of holos that appear in rios stream he should really be out in the hololive section
>>46242973>. After all why would a company pay royalties if they weren't legally obligated to?Because they can and want to as an incentive?why are you being retarded anon
>>46242838True…VA only need to read script that wasWritten by a writerDrawn by an artistConceptualized by the creatorAnimator, programmer etc etcBig difference with vtuber
shiraken gold?
>>46242921>Kuzuha fighting against a HolostarJesas. He's the Damian Lillard of vtubing
>>46242978Holoseethe
>>46243004https://twitter.com/nhk_vtuberradio/status/1640987154103803904
>>46242973They're treating the holos as talents, not as mere IPs.
>>46242712Why are nijiniggers like this?
>>46242992This but mine and unironically.
>>46242992Unless you're a wealthy investor you're outta luck brother
>>46242876Spiffing Brit did a video showing a Video with a bunch of viewers with low watch time will be killed in the algo. Some people in /#/ are extrapolating that to mean those raids where they bleed out the whole thing immediately actual have the same effect.
>>46242973but the talents arent defacto part owners of their brand anon it still belongs to cover?Its just that cover gives them a good cut on their merch as an incentive
>>46242973Do you even read the other replies, nigger? Or your retarded selective brain only read shit you can argue about!!??
>>46242973Dude you are slow. That's not what royalties are. They get a share of things they help sell If they didn't, why would the girls accept sponsorships or cover's offer to appear in merch?
https://twitter.com/nhkworld_news/status/1641293384823234562
>>46243012But they wouldn't because it would be retarded and potentially lose them their IP.
>>46242314Mika is a woman.Bae already meet her
So gura gold today?
>>46243028What does that mean?
>>46243041Because nu-nijifags think that its ok for their livers to get screwed over as long as riku gets his 3rd yacht
>>46243037Nice! I love suisei more now!
11pm jst
>>46242926Thanks anon, do you happen to have the other posts he made or the compilation?
>>46243087Cripple? Yes
>>46242918Alec Guinness negotiated for royalties when he signed on for Star Wars back when the studio didn’t think it would be a success, and was so financially secure he was able to pick and choose whatever roles he wanted to play for the rest of his life.
>>46242973Good will, to give talents a stake in promoting and selling merch, to help attract talent via a more generous compensation than rivals
>>46242849>>46242894I said tempiss dumbass not star, reading comprehension doko? If they already support star then tempiss came in shouldn't lead to higher incline.
>>46243083why would they lose their ip anon?its like saying that mcdonalds is gonna lose their ip to a burger flipper the moment they give him a signing bonus or incentive
Why are you guys being dumb? It's been established that vtubers are the same as their RL self? Otherwise, the bullying law wouldn't win court fights.
>>46243113Daily gold?
>>46243087Yeah, she had like 80k unculled.
Who is this slack-faced broad?
>>46242979She is a nice girl but has no creativity or guts. She just do standard content for 2 hours and fucks off to who knows where.At least in nepolabo we have shishilamy experimenting new forms of content from time to time and Polka taking the role of vsinger. Meanwhile, what Nene even does?
>>46241983This is cute as fuck, source?
>>46242992Vtubers aren’t your slaves
>giving royalties as an admission of their ownershipI'm trying to decide if "selling out a venue will cost you money" or this is the second most retarded thing every said in this thread after>hating on tomboys
>>46242933Pippas audience is going to be a problem the bigger she gets she's going to lose control of them and it'll end up fucking her over
>>46243156Hololive ch member post
i wouldn't have mind if Anycolor earned more money but they're using it to push the industry more and more like Cover but it's obvious they're keeping most of the money to themselves while also underpaying their talents
Stop arguing with that faggot. He doesn't even read the replies to his retarded arguments
>>46243136Good joke anon. She's already beaten twice and big guns still didn't stream yet.
>>46243134doesnt that only in harassment cases since it would be grim if it applies to other cases especially cases related to copyright like with the nintendo one?
>>46242666daaamn okayu got finessed!
>>46242918Big difference between negotiating royalties as part of your contract and losing rights due to negligence and poor understanding of IP law
bro 30% of the site is owned by Good Smile now wtf. do >we get pinned threads about new chuuba nendos now?
>>46243013Yes. The VA only does the voice, they are not involved in the entire process behind it like a vtuber does with their content. That's the difference between a content creator and a tool
>>46243205No, Vtubers are the people
>>46242712I heard that Lui has an input of her final design. It means she has a right for her avatar if that is true.
>>46243161nijinigs really have to come up with the most retarded mental gymnastics just to make nijisanji screwing over their livers look good
>>46243147https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCW8WKciBixmaqaGqrlTITRQ
AIEEEEEE IT'S THE BOT WITCHES!!
>>46243224>nowSince 2015 when Hiromoot bought it, dummy!
>It's soon gonna be 3 years since i've discovered hololive.
>>46243192Who beat her? Her numbers was pretty high no?
>>46243147774. I think her name is Izumi
>>46243239All of them give suggestions on the design. They usually don't get it in the end
>>46243224>now
>>46243205Speaking of harassment, when was the last time a Holo was harassed by fans?
>>46243257Okayu mc, subaru q remastered
>>46243254It's 4 for me..
>>46243147>>46243131774 talent and very close friend with some other holo talents like Mel and roberu.
>>46243257>Her numbers was pretty high no?Out of reach for any EN current vtuber
>>46243257just look at vrabi why you need to ask?
>>46243160Stop posting here kson
>>46243254It might be or it's almost 5 for me.
>>46243287Fuck
Ok homo sisters I like Rio
>>46243013Holos need to play a character that was drawn by an illustrator, rigged by a rigger, paid for by Cover.
>>46243285>when was the last time a Holo was harassed by fans?>fansDo you mean nijinigger?
>>46243257Me. She was misbehaving. You should teach your little girls how to be a good girl.
>>46243292That’s grim, even if you double the numbers then 40k is the absolute best EN can muster with its most popular Vtuber
>>46242848>>46242905>nijiEN lurk this thread you can't make this shit up
>>46243315That's just an animation without the person behind it
Matuli...
>>46243285Kanata...
/#/ bros which is stronger, Gen 4 or Gen 5?
>>46243358Are you new? Did you forget how they following the threads advice on what to do for buff content early on?
>>46243290>>46243254>>46243310Honestly, Hololive has better live entertainment than most shows on TV nowadays. It's like anime + TV + spontaneous. Twitch is kinda boring because they're too crude, TV is too fake, watching YT videos can get tiring sometimes.
>>46243388Dumbass she harassed herself
>>46243285I wouldn’t count them as fans, but Laplus got approached on the street.
>>46243315Sure but the only reason people would buy the merch is a compound of the voice, personality AND looks. 2/3 to the actual person behind the avatar.
>>46243315I'm sure your parents own you anon since they made you and fed you
>>46243388Kanata was harassed by Kanata
>>46243405Yup. This shit is staying for another 10years
This "boy" can hit higher notes than any girl.
>>46243395Yonkisei easily>Towa>Kanata>WatameAll have good streaming and music numbers
>>46243405Except HoloEN which is boring as shit
>>46243399I know they're /here/ but just didn't expect they actually lurk this fucking thread and even TOOK advice from this thread seriously lmao
my cute wife
>>46243058I mean, it's the same as dumping a bunch of shitty low watch-time views into a video, and for VODs that already struggle with the new UI change (THANKS SUSAN), further tanking a video's ability to get recommended sounds GRIM as shit.
Ah Now I understand where the IP confusion from that anon comes from. He must have been basing it on that NijiID fan incident where Anycolor stopped a group of ID fans from making bday merch for one their chuubas last year. Anycolor's reasoning is that they needed to get 50% of the cut due to some kind of copyright and IP laws.Anon protip a couple of indo anons already checked and said that anycolors reasoning was bs
>>46242018It's probably a nijiliver, his logic comes from the reality at Nijisanji which is why he's so sure about it
>>46243405>TV is too fakeHolo streams are scripted anon, especially collabs
>>46243443>You can't like... own a drawing man thats like owning a personGo back kson
>>46243478maybe their manager lurk this thread kek
>>46243399Wait for real?qrd and when this happened?
HEY GUYS!!
>>46243395Gen 4 has Towa who gets 100k on concerts, Kanata who easily gets 20k on games and Watame who has sold out concerts.Gen 5 has nothing.
>>46243457>boyTowa and Rio should switch
>>46243534Shut up Korone
Rime is in the muttland getting blacked..
>>46242706This time it's not due to Vsaikyou though. The timing lined up nicely but the incline started from his collab with Hinano.
>>46243487i made this post
>>46243418>>46243452Nice accountability, holobros.
>bluemy eyes...
>>46243530>maybe their manager lurk this thread kek>he doesnt know about noor, paul li and the internsfor some reason they are more active in the eu primetime but you should try and catch them since they say the funniest shit like>the only reason why kizuna ai became popular was because of nijisanji
>Towa sounds like a male>Rio sounds like a femaleTHEY ARE
>>46243469>>46243549Thank you, so Hololive Gen4 beats Gen5 but Luna is still shit
>>46243530The shop bug got fixed within an hour of being discovered on this thread
God I hate Aruran’s redesign
>>46242934>What happend if the number went to zero though?Look at the mirror, and stab your heart with a sharp thing. That is the best approximation of what will happen. Basically, it won't happen.
>>46243388>Taking shitposting seriously on 5ch/matomeThat's a self-own mate, like picking a fight while drunk in an back alleyway in Ankh-Morpork at night, alone.
They replace RIM with a bot..
>>46243604that explain the current state of nijien
just came back from rest.why are you guys giving (you) to a retard that knows nothing about how cover works, and is making assumptions that make zero sense?do i just need to act like a retard that doesn't back down when i know im wrong for (you)?
There's no way you faggot unironically gay to Rio, right?
>>46242905>Most influential is not a meme
>>46243528>drawingYou do know they stream, sing and have personality right? These are not anime art
>>46243498I do this for a living, trust me I know IP law inside and out and I'm 100% right when I tell you no company in the world would have the arrangement you think Cover has.
>>46243663its just fun to see the intern try to spin niji screwing their livers as a good thing
>>46243671reddit is useless, same goes for twitterif you want real data, you need unfiltered data
Wait a minute, is there really NOT ONE RAID in NijiEN today?
For those who missed the post that supposedly made Nijis wary of raiding (at >>46103745)>That Brit dude just released a video showing (with receipts) that flooding a video with people that will click on it, stay for a few seconds and bail will KILL the video on the algorithm.>He demonstrated that by putting ads on a video targeting all of the wrong demographics (too old, not interested in the subject, etc) and a video that would otherwise get thousands of views a day on being recommended alone dropped to about one hundred views a day and not being recommended.>The conclusion is: average view time (the time people spend on average on your video) is a massive signal for the algo and having “unwilling” people boarding your video is detrimental to the point of being an algo killer.>The Brit dude doesn’t mention live streams but YouTube twitter support made it clear many times that, for what YouTube is concerned, there is no distinction between the live audience and the VOD audience for the purpose of “average view time” or similar metrics.Enters raids (and this is speculation on my part): as there is no distinction between a “bad ad” redirecting people to watch a video (and drop immediately) and a “bad raid”, doing likewise but live, it is very likely that the same effect comes into play here. Funnily enough that was something people suspected because of Tempus "chain of raids" for both their batches, but it was chalked off as >inability for form a "natural box"but maybe it was this effect, their streams just not getting recommended to any new audience due to bad retention on raids.Same thing might have been a factor for iLUNA and XSoleil as well
>>46243664> gay for a maleNah. I am straight for HER
>>46243625Luna is not even that shit let’s be real
>>46243664Tamaki is more male than Rio anon. Even Towa and Suzy are more male than Rio
Unity buff won today, sorry block autism game
>>46243687hi noor
>>46242934Price of the stock legit doesn't matter for Cover right now. Maybe it's an issue if they need to raise funds down the line, but for now it literally doesn't matter for their day to day operations since they already got the money they needed and also fulfilled the demands of their series A shareholders who wanted out.
>>46243687Sure you do anon and Im a Navy Seal with 300 confirmed killsAre you also the concert anon by any chance?
>>46243478Reimu had #s on her Google home screen.
>>46243625Luna is as shitty as Gen 5, good thing Gen 4 has three other good chuubas to pick up the slack
>>46243687Yeah, and I’m a media mogul and can tell you you’re wrong.
>>46243665jesas they are all ugly and only Ruchan is passable one
So shiraken gold today.
>>46243687imagine doing this for a living and still this clueless about royalty. You must be desperate for cash because nobody in their right mind would ever want to use your services.
>>46242934>What happend if the number went to zero though?Cover would buy them back at a profit?All of the stocks they wanted to sell are in the secondary market now and the money from their sale is in their pocket.If it ever falls below a good enough price they would just do a buyback and come out with the money in their pockets AND the stocks back in their side
>>46243395Botan, is not as strong as Kanata recently but she has consistently high numbers. Lamy and Nene sometimes can do better numbers than Watame/Towa but its not very consistent. And Polka is weaker than anyone in gen4. All that taken into consideration with stuff like Kanata and Towa's good 3d and music numbers. I would say as a whole gen4 has better numbers than 5.
>>46243709isnt that grim for nijien considering that even without the raids they still have some of the most shittiest retention?
>>46243793Yes, but that's legit a skill issue.
>>46243745Luna can get good numbers a lot. She has good game choice.
>>46243756hope so, mostly because that means more lewds variety but Pekora with gacha seems tough
>>46243793They should become entertaining.
So, basically, you're telling me that if I stream almost daily, participate in most high tier collabs, sing songs/do gimmicks every 2 weeks, I can become a millionaire by the end of April next year?
>>46243405What I hate about TV is that it gives you everything in neatly wrapped soundbites. I think there's some small social benefits to watching streamers instead.
>>46243709Meanwhile on the HoloEN side they tend to incline with a raid instead of bleed out.
>>46243604the seething all makes sense now>be fulgur>be terminally /here/>assume that your rivals must be terminally /here/ as well>realize that the anon making fat jokes could very well be Mumei>seethe
>>46243709>vesper raiding nina wasnt an act of mercy but rather a corporate sabotagekek
>>46243644Owari da..
>>46243856Only if you are a girl and in hololive
>>46243881That Bae graph earlier was great
For comparison of general selling power. acrylic and sticker sales from fes merch. Chibi Sticker Bright Outfit Ver. - Tokino Sora 75 $4.00 $300.00 Chibi Sticker Bright Outfit Ver. - Robocosan 55 $4.00 $220.00 Chibi Sticker Bright Outfit Ver. - AZKi 84 $4.00 $336.00 Chibi Sticker Bright Outfit Ver. - Sakura Miko 428 $4.00 $1,712.00 Chibi Sticker Bright Outfit Ver. - Hoshimachi Suisei 834 $4.00 $3,336.00 Chibi Sticker Bright Outfit Ver. - Yozora Mel 54 $4.00 $216.00 Chibi Sticker Bright Outfit Ver. - Aki Rosenthal 48 $4.00 $192.00 Chibi Sticker Bright Outfit Ver. - Akai Haato 60 $4.00 $240.00 Chibi Sticker Bright Outfit Ver. - Shirakami Fubuki 320 $4.00 $1,280.00 Chibi Sticker Bright Outfit Ver. - Natsuiro Matsuri 74 $4.00 $296.00 Chibi Sticker Bright Outfit Ver. - Minato Aqua 292 $4.00 $1,168.00 Chibi Sticker Bright Outfit Ver. - Murasaki Shion 182 $4.00 $728.00 Chibi Sticker Bright Outfit Ver. - Nakiri Ayame 260 $4.00 $1,040.00 Chibi Sticker Bright Outfit Ver. - Yuzuki Choco 43 $4.00 $172.00 Chibi Sticker Bright Outfit Ver. - Oozora Subaru 255 $4.00 $1,020.00 Chibi Sticker Bright Outfit Ver. - Ookami Mio 217 $4.00 $868.00 Chibi Sticker Bright Outfit Ver. - Nekomata Okayu 295 $4.00 $1,180.00 Chibi Sticker Bright Outfit Ver. - Inugami Korone 240 $4.00 $960.00 Chibi Sticker Bright Outfit Ver. - Usada Pekora 300 $4.00 $1,200.00 Chibi Sticker Bright Outfit Ver. - Shiranui Flare 171 $4.00 $684.00 Chibi Sticker Bright Outfit Ver. - Shirogane Noel 152 $4.00 $608.00 Chibi Sticker Bright Outfit Ver. - Houshou Marine 371 $4.00 $1,484.00 Chibi Sticker Bright Outfit Ver. - Amane Kanata 234 $4.00 $936.00 Chibi Sticker Bright Outfit Ver. - Tsunomaki Watame 155 $4.00 $620.00 Chibi Sticker Bright Outfit Ver. - Tokoyami Towa 278 $4.00 $1,112.00 Chibi Sticker Bright Outfit Ver. - Himemori Luna 83 $4.00 $332.00 Chibi Sticker Bright Outfit Ver. - Yukihana Lamy 268 $4.00 $1,072.00 Chibi Sticker Bright Outfit Ver. - Momosuzu Nene 175 $4.00 $700.00 Chibi Sticker Bright Outfit Ver. - Shishiro Botan 207 $4.00 $828.00 Chibi Sticker Bright Outfit Ver. - Omaru Polka 188 $4.00 $752.00 Chibi Sticker Bright Outfit Ver. - La+ Darknesss 285 $4.00 $1,140.00 Chibi Sticker Bright Outfit Ver. - Takane Lui 127 $4.00 $508.00 Chibi Sticker Bright Outfit Ver. - Hakui Koyori 296 $4.00 $1,184.00 Chibi Sticker Bright Outfit Ver. - Sakamata Chloe 272 $4.00 $1,088.00 Chibi Sticker Bright Outfit Ver. - Kazama Iroha 279 $4.00 $1,116.00 Chibi Sticker Bright Outfit Ver. - Ayunda Risu 35 $4.00 $140.00 Chibi Sticker Bright Outfit Ver. - Moona Hoshinova 55 $4.00 $220.00 Chibi Sticker Bright Outfit Ver. - Airani Iofifteen 23 $4.00 $92.00 Chibi Sticker Bright Outfit Ver. - Kureiji Ollie 53 $4.00 $212.00 Chibi Sticker Bright Outfit Ver. - Anya Melfissa 33 $4.00 $132.00 Chibi Sticker Bright Outfit Ver. - Pavolia Reine 32 $4.00 $128.00 Chibi Sticker Bright Outfit Ver. - Mori Calliope 132 $4.00 $528.00 Chibi Sticker Bright Outfit Ver. - Takanashi Kiara 81 $4.00 $324.00 Chibi Sticker Bright Outfit Ver. - Ninomae Ina'nis 136 $4.00 $544.00 Chibi Sticker Bright Outfit Ver. - Gawr Gura 199 $4.00 $796.00 Chibi Sticker Bright Outfit Ver. - Watson Amelia 103 $4.00 $412.00 Chibi Sticker Bright Outfit Ver. - IRyS 127 $4.00 $508.00 Chibi Sticker Bright Outfit Ver. - Ceres Fauna 94 $4.00 $376.00 Chibi Sticker Bright Outfit Ver. - Ouro Kronii 99 $4.00 $396.00 Chibi Sticker Bright Outfit Ver. - Nanashi Mumei 88 $4.00 $352.00 Chibi Sticker Bright Outfit Ver. - Hakos Baelz 119 $4.00 $476.00 $36,264.00
>>46243756Between Peko or Shiraken. I hope Peko win. Btw what is Shiraken doing today?
This homo sounds good
>>46243856You must also become a slave
you guys said Rio is a male...that voice when he sings sounds like a female...
>>46243315And a script made by, guess who!
>>46243791Gen5 as a unit exceeds the sum of their parts. It's like saying the Nets are stronger than the Warriors but we know who won the last championship.
>>46243889ugh that 3D reminds me the b2 one
>No you don't understand Yagoo creates enormous financial risk for his company by creating unneccessary legal entitlements to revenue generated by his IP because he's such a good guyNot how the world works guys. Dunmo why you're so intent on claiming the Cover would operate im a way that would get them sued by their own shareholders for gross incompetence.
>>46243896what if I am for both
>>46243856Yep if you’re in blue doritos. But the entrance is harder than winning a lotto so just try your luck in las vegas
>>46243887>yabba dabba doo
>>46243913 Chibi Acrylic Keychain Bright Outfit Ver. - Tokino Sora 193 $7.00 $1,351.00 Chibi Acrylic Keychain Bright Outfit Ver. - Robocosan 104 $7.00 $728.00 Chibi Acrylic Keychain Bright Outfit Ver. - AZKi 272 $7.00 $1,904.00 Chibi Acrylic Keychain Bright Outfit Ver. - Sakura Miko 1016 $7.00 $7,112.00 Chibi Acrylic Keychain Bright Outfit Ver. - Hoshimachi Suisei 1950 $7.00 $13,650.00 Chibi Acrylic Keychain Bright Outfit Ver. - Yozora Mel 88 $7.00 $616.00 Chibi Acrylic Keychain Bright Outfit Ver. - Aki Rosenthal 78 $7.00 $546.00 Chibi Acrylic Keychain Bright Outfit Ver. - Akai Haato 96 $7.00 $672.00 Chibi Acrylic Keychain Bright Outfit Ver. - Shirakami Fubuki 841 $7.00 $5,887.00 Chibi Acrylic Keychain Bright Outfit Ver. - Natsuiro Matsuri 159 $7.00 $1,113.00 Chibi Acrylic Keychain Bright Outfit Ver. - Minato Aqua 689 $7.00 $4,823.00 Chibi Acrylic Keychain Bright Outfit Ver. - Murasaki Shion 378 $7.00 $2,646.00 Chibi Acrylic Keychain Bright Outfit Ver. - Nakiri Ayame 629 $7.00 $4,403.00 Chibi Acrylic Keychain Bright Outfit Ver. - Yuzuki Choco 89 $7.00 $623.00 Chibi Acrylic Keychain Bright Outfit Ver. - Oozora Subaru 526 $7.00 $3,682.00 Chibi Acrylic Keychain Bright Outfit Ver. - Ookami Mio 504 $7.00 $3,528.00 Chibi Acrylic Keychain Bright Outfit Ver. - Nekomata Okayu 632 $7.00 $4,424.00 Chibi Acrylic Keychain Bright Outfit Ver. - Inugami Korone 519 $7.00 $3,633.00 Chibi Acrylic Keychain Bright Outfit Ver. - Usada Pekora 573 $7.00 $4,011.00 Chibi Acrylic Keychain Bright Outfit Ver. - Shiranui Flare 345 $7.00 $2,415.00 Chibi Acrylic Keychain Bright Outfit Ver. - Shirogane Noel 341 $7.00 $2,387.00 Chibi Acrylic Keychain Bright Outfit Ver. - Houshou Marine 750 $7.00 $5,250.00 Chibi Acrylic Keychain Bright Outfit Ver. - Amane Kanata 512 $7.00 $3,584.00 Chibi Acrylic Keychain Bright Outfit Ver. - Tsunomaki Watame 367 $7.00 $2,569.00 Chibi Acrylic Keychain Bright Outfit Ver. - Tokoyami Towa 675 $7.00 $4,725.00 Chibi Acrylic Keychain Bright Outfit Ver. - Himemori Luna 165 $7.00 $1,155.00 Chibi Acrylic Keychain Bright Outfit Ver. - Yukihana Lamy 608 $7.00 $4,256.00 Chibi Acrylic Keychain Bright Outfit Ver. - Momosuzu Nene 340 $7.00 $2,380.00 Chibi Acrylic Keychain Bright Outfit Ver. - Shishiro Botan 402 $7.00 $2,814.00 Chibi Acrylic Keychain Bright Outfit Ver. - Omaru Polka 329 $7.00 $2,303.00 Chibi Acrylic Keychain Bright Outfit Ver. - La+ Darknesss 599 $7.00 $4,193.00 Chibi Acrylic Keychain Bright Outfit Ver. - Takane Lui 281 $7.00 $1,967.00 Chibi Acrylic Keychain Bright Outfit Ver. - Hakui Koyori 690 $7.00 $4,830.00 Chibi Acrylic Keychain Bright Outfit Ver. - Sakamata Chloe 590 $7.00 $4,130.00 Chibi Acrylic Keychain Bright Outfit Ver. - Kazama Iroha 728 $7.00 $5,096.00 Chibi Acrylic Keychain Bright Outfit Ver. - Ayunda Risu 49 $7.00 $343.00 Chibi Acrylic Keychain Bright Outfit Ver. - Moona Hoshinova 94 $7.00 $658.00 Chibi Acrylic Keychain Bright Outfit Ver. - Airani Iofifteen 52 $7.00 $364.00 Chibi Acrylic Keychain Bright Outfit Ver. - Kureiji Ollie 70 $7.00 $490.00 Chibi Acrylic Keychain Bright Outfit Ver. - Anya Melfissa 65 $7.00 $455.00 Chibi Acrylic Keychain Bright Outfit Ver. - Pavolia Reine 69 $7.00 $483.00 Chibi Acrylic Keychain Bright Outfit Ver. - Mori Calliope 254 $7.00 $1,778.00 Chibi Acrylic Keychain Bright Outfit Ver. - Takanashi Kiara 132 $7.00 $924.00 Chibi Acrylic Keychain Bright Outfit Ver. - Ninomae Ina'nis 329 $7.00 $2,303.00 Chibi Acrylic Keychain Bright Outfit Ver. - Gawr Gura 405 $7.00 $2,835.00 Chibi Acrylic Keychain Bright Outfit Ver. - Watson Amelia 183 $7.00 $1,281.00 Chibi Acrylic Keychain Bright Outfit Ver. - IRyS 211 $7.00 $1,477.00 Chibi Acrylic Keychain Bright Outfit Ver. - Ceres Fauna 249 $7.00 $1,743.00 Chibi Acrylic Keychain Bright Outfit Ver. - Ouro Kronii 164 $7.00 $1,148.00 Chibi Acrylic Keychain Bright Outfit Ver. - Nanashi Mumei 236 $7.00 $1,652.00 Chibi Acrylic Keychain Bright Outfit Ver. - Hakos Baelz 232 $7.00 $1,624.00 $138,964.00
>>46243943Nijisanji is waiting for you
>>46243920Unfortunately he is a gay spic
>>46243709The raid feature came out during the last two Gen right?
>>46243927either way, i only use her/his/they/it ass
Rio would've good number if ''he'' is on hololive
>>462439133000 USD from stickers holy shit suisei
>>46242946How come Holo raids have good retention but Niji raids do not?
>>46243982>gay>spicJesas
>>46243889Wonder what happened? KAF 3D looked okay during Suisei's LIVE.
>>46244005skill issue
>>46243941>giving incentives is somehow creating unnecessary legal entitlements Holo shit my boss just gave me an extra $2 dollars raise that means i can now sue mcdonalds since i own the ip
>>46243914Oekaki no Mori
>>46244016shader and lighting issue
>>46243822But she's also a contrariam stubborn bitch who will intentionally do things out of the curve during these said games just to spite people who trying to give her good advices. Her ER playthrough is a great example, she picks a strong weapon, realizes it's a strong weapon, chat tells her cool stuff she can do with it and then she proceeds to intentionally only using R1 for every fight.She is a count no diferente from Ame, no wonder she is the runt of Gen4
>>46244001she just want some dick inside her pussy
>46243941if you give this faggot more (you) after explaining why 30min ago, you are a drooling retard
>>46243976What the fuck happened to Kronii
>>46243783>Yagoo is letting stocks tank so he can increase his control of the company with a buyback and make a profit in the process
IT'S HIM
>>46243913>gen 5 is strong as a unit>no proof because I'm a retarded gen5niggerin reality their full gen collabs can't even break the 30k mark, even their top numbered Botan barely gets 10k for buff games, they're trash that barely competes with Luna the weakest of gen 4
>>46244016Kamitsubaki tech
>>46244072>lettingHe has no control over it. The secondary market will put a price on the available shares and buy and sell for that price
JP uncle is so cute
>>46242688740 whopping IPs :O
>female steamer = rioYABBA DABBA DO
Why does Vesper's Nip sound like Mori?
>>46243793Skill issue and also it was cummulative fuck up when raid available.Remember NijiEN and Tempus abuse raid since last year the algorithm very likely to be killed overtime.tldr: Raid is only good if you have good retention while it will kill your channel if you have bad retention, funny enough HoloEN girls benefited from raid but we not for Tempus and NijiEN. Notice HoloEN girls start doing raid today except Gura while Niji and Tempus stop doing that
>>46244107So it's a win win
A collab with a boy?(girl) yabadabbado
>>46244005NijiEN can’t even retain their own viewers for their own streams why would their raids do any better? Compare how quickly NijiEN versus HoloEN hit peak CCV on their own and how well they retain it.
>>46243856If you're a future Hololive member sure, but if you aren't, good fucking luck.
>>46243910link?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1W3J1ZsQi88Haven't checked in Varium in a while, how are they doing?>189 for Eru, used to be their best performerNumbers in the gutter.Also, turns out the sweet angel is personality wise a cross between Delutaya and Chloe.
>>46244070She has less hardcore fans and more casual fans. Casual fans aren’t gonna bother with the shipping price.
>>46244023Yes. A bonus. If your boss giving you a percentage of the store profits, retard? No.Thats the entire fucking point. They might get a flat bonus or incentive payment. They do NOT share PROFITS on Cover created merch.
>>46244129rent free
wtf it is just me or japanese vesper really sound like AI vesper
>>46244117IMPRESSIVE NUMBERS
>>46243976>>46243913What's with Suisei and merch? I doubt she shilled the holofes merch.
>>46243941No matter what you said, the fact remains
>>46243910Beaut
>>46244016skill issue
>>46243976takosame strongest EN members
>>46244191Americans don't know how to do inflections with emotion
>>46244175They do. why would they agree to to the merch if they don't get anything out of it?
>>46244175but he gave me a monetary incentive to do my job though that means i have the same rights to their ip like the holo girls does based on your logic
>>46243913>>46243976Order it from highest to lowest, retard.
>>46243913>>46243976Yeah Suisei is the merch queen
>>46244016It's a different "softer" model. Not their usual one
>>46243910If only they could always raid seemlessly into an explicit collab with the raider...
>>46244005Audience mismatch. Raid a gaming stream from one girl to another and the genres aren't wildly mismatched? It doesn't bleed out like a stuck pig.Do the exact opposite? TIME TO GET ALGO FUCKED!!!
>>46244151How come HoloEN has such good rention but also high churn judging by likes, polls, and views?
>>46244130It’s pretty good that Kiara is the one who starts the raid chain since her fanbase tend to watch other Holos already
>>46244175>If your boss giving you a percentage of the store profits, retard?yes? where do you think the extra $2 comes from? its sure as hell is not coming from his own pocket anon
>>46244241They don't need to agree to the merch though. Cover owns the character. They could release a Gawr Gura themed onahole if they wanted and Gura couldn't do shit about it.
>>46244203She's very pretty.
>>46243943Why the fuck are you posting in /#/, shoo shoo, this place corrupts.
>>46244005Niji doesn’t have as much overlap between their streamers’ audiences.
>>46244319>They don't need to agree to the merch though.but they do? like with suisei and her merch having big boobs
>>4624411754321...IPs
>>46244132There is no downside for Cover for the limited sale the made of their own stocks. They already pocketed the money they wanted, from that point on the shares in the stock market ceased to be a problem of theirs.
>>46244289The holobox
>>46244283Now that I think about it, they need to set the raids permission or you will have people try to maliciously raid you.
>>46244319No. They always ask if you want to be in merch and promotions, both cover's and sponsors. That's how they operate
>>46244203popularity, would explain the 160k live
>>46244016Different shader.
>>46243889It's looks like that lamy's mask cosplay
>>46244352That anon is taking the slave joke too seriously.
>>46244319But they do ask them if they want merch and or be in promotions though? a couple of holos already talked about it
>>46244130>Tempus stop doing that
>110k watching holo jpThe box not as stretch like yesterday
>>46243943hey baby, lemme inspect that hymen
So this is Rio's second highest stream. Is 15K possible?
>>46243889OOOOFFFFF, is this the bilibili one?
>>46243889>Literal PS2 3D qualityWhere all the profit from Budokan sold out tickets?
Did someone want to convince that being super corporate is good or to convince that Yagoo is quietly a black company boss?
>>46244005What do you expect from a company who encourage not following every livers?
>>46244419this version looks far better
>>46244419>>46244444No nigga it's a whole different model
>>46244319Bad example, I bet Gura would actually be all for it in this case kek
>>46244443don't we still have suisei?or is she already over
>>46243687Imagine doing it for job and still being this bad. Did you get in by nepo hire?
>>46244474Looks like those "lego the movie" characters
>>46244461No he just wants to convice the thread that taking advantage of your employees and being a black company like niji is actually a good thing
>>46244283But Kiara raided 1 hour into the superchat reading part, not really a gaming stream by that point. I guess KFP watch the other ENs and that the euros had already gone to bed
>>46244005The problem with NijiEN is they are just raid blindly without looking at the one who receive the raid.NijiEN even try to raid Aia SC reading section, of course everyone will tab out immediately. Meanwhile HoloEN are jumping from one kiino stream to another kino stream. Also mismatch audience between Niji livers while Hololive have formed thwir own box
>>46244438peko didn't start her stream yet
>>46244497Not a good thing, but a total normal thing
>>46244481Suisei is hasn't played yet, but she's about to start streaming
>>46244474You could bring that model to Hololive's studio and it'll look different. It's Kamitsubaki's shader and lighting choice, just like B2's Suisei.
>>46244130I'm thinking, unless there's some big ass EN stream after Gura, herself dumping a raid to EN after her is pretty harmful if the theory is true and it's not just about ruin other's chat
>>46244319I wish Gura owned the character, then we'd get onahole merch.
>>46244527hmm, I wonder how that's going to work, I doubt her audience would dip her live just to check out her recording
>>46244499>>46244283KFP are saviorfags and got thrust into a tech issues Fauna stream. It was their bread and butter.
>>46244499KFP are unity to a fault. If they're still up at that point, yea they're up for another HoloEN stream.
>>46244499KFP are used to SC readings. It's like 50% of the content they watch
13k doryaaaa
>>46244256No. If your boss gave you a percentage of the profits of the store then you'd have an argument to own a percentage pf that store in proportion to your share of the profit if the arrangement lasts long enough. Deriving economic benefits if one of the measures of proof of ownership. If you've been getting profit from something for long enough then in the eyes of the law you own it. You can even lose your rights to a house you allow to be used by someone else, look up adverse posession.If Cover is sharing profits they are effectively saying this is your share due to your ownership.
>>46244386Everyone is just along for the ride, they were forced to go public and their investors got to cash out. Yagoo paid off his studio debt and is currently hiding the Homos under a rug.
>>46244500Has a HoloEN raid ever flopped?
>>46244584>>46244303
>>46244530Kamitsubaki's models are just not that good. They are far behind Niji and even some corpos like 774. Their talents are worth investing though so I'm baffled how they don't get something like 2020 Holo 3Ds
>>46244546All she needs to do is just mention there's another stream up and to go watch if they're interested. Honestly that solves the issue of raiding people who AREN'T interested into another stream while also giving people a heads up to go watch if it's not showing up in recommends.
we are now here
This is stream is just Rio mogging the rest of the industry.
Suisei(shiraken) gold today?
>>46244303The $2 is wages which is an expense. Profits are the net income left after expenses anon. Wages are prior to profit
No matter how you try to gaslighting the whole thread into your headcanon, the FACT is that cover share their merch profits with their talents. Yes, not common, i know. But, this is the truth. Not some made up assumptions anons make /here/. Read their reports and yagoo's recent interviews. Also, Watch stream.