/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>46220277
Gamers will save them.

>huh, our livers aren't doing as well as before
>I know, let's dilute our audience even more, that'll surely fix everything
>Tazumi-sama, you truly are a genius

>>46220484
Lmao I realized this shit is like mining crypto.
Your liver organs make pennies, so you get a trillion of them and keep them streaming multiple hours a day, every day, while you do nothing, so you make gigantic gains in the long run
No wonder Riku is a billionaire despite his agency is crumbling to pieces

>>46220484
yeah they are definitely looking at ccv and not at money

half of EN streams in japan time so yes they unironically need more

>>46220277
They'll strike gold this time for sure, bring in a new audience...

So the off chance an actual Nijisanji fan comes here, do you even want new waves at this point? There's realistically only 3 vtubers I can keep up with, so anytime someone new shows up I watch their debut and kind of tune out from there.

>>46224303
At this point I'm just hoping they debut someone that's not boring as shit. The last time this happened was what, 4 waves ago? Maybe 5?

>>46220277
Still make triple the revenue
CCV doesn't mean shit
Go cry about your failed IPO in /#/ with the rest of the bronies

Post Ame and Kiara's numbers you faggot.
You won't.
And 3 views like Aia and Scarle make more money than a ton of holo 5 views so I don't see what the point of these threads are, CCV is such a meaningless metric.

enter

>>46224303
yes because gamer content is shit. Why would I watch a vtuber play some arena game badly? Also no one is asking anyone to "keep up" with all of them and it helps that they show up in each other's streams anyway

>>46220277
They've clearly figured out a system where they can make money even on three views.
So just keep churning them out and you might get lucky.

>>46225051
And all thst revenue goes straight to Tazumi. Nijisanji Livers get peanuts percentage wise. JPs talked about it. They only pocket about 25 to 30 percent of earnings after cuts and taxes. But keep bootlicking.

>>46226071
>bitches about the same shit holo does
>bootlicking cover since 2020 with shit threads like this and still losing
holocringe

>>46224303
If they're good livers, sure. I got into watching NijiEN with the XSOLEIL debuts so it works for some people. I think mixed waves of 6 people are too much though and hope they go back to 3-4 people instead

>>46225149
>Altare Alter
>Axel at home
>Somehow faggier white Flayon
>Worse Shien

>>46225088
The problem is that many of them don't even get enough time and support to build a loyal fanbase so good luck getting money from superchats and memberships when you can't even have 1000 viewers watching you. They don't even get that much from their own physical merch yet you're here talking about how much money they make when Anycolor is taking most of it.
By the way, this thread wasn't even about money to begin with but since that's all you seems to care about here...

>>46221597
Bingo, it such a low cost production, he make back his investment when they open membership and SC.

>>46226071
That's the exact same thing as Hololive, brony. Read your own company's financial report.

>>46225088
Holobronies won't even discuss their financial report because holy shit it was fucking terrible when unveiled rumao. Their livers are horribly underpaid compared to Niji's and they spent years insisting otherwise. The irony was delicious.

You mean of tempiss? oh absolutely!

The strategy with nijinigger is that their guys will be popular for a few weeks after debut, like when Zaion and Doppio were pulling 3k CCV each, then when they drop off they'll shit out a new wave that will get that debut boost for a while before viewers get bored.

>>46220484
Nijisanji isn't like hololive and hololive has a goal of 'cultivating' their talents to a million subs so it looks better for investors, since the longterm is that hololive is just a way for Cover to get investing in Yagoo's VR teach since his real dream is to become a god in the machine by uploading his consciousness to the internet.

>>46221597
It's better than mining crypto, since with crypto you need an investment into a mining rig and paying for the power cost. With this he offloads all the costs onto someone else, while getting the money. It's so easy even an idiot could do it.

>>46224303
POMU

>>46227891
And still mog the fuck out of Holoshit in terms of pay and revenue alike.

>>46227945
Pretty much. I felt a lot better reading Nijisanji's report compared to Hololive's and anyone who is a fan of Virtual YouTubers and otaku culture as opposed to technology and nerdshit would too.

>>46227712
>>46227778

I have. Did you miss the whole thing where ENs make 1 to 2 million in personal profits a year?

Let's see, aaaaand it's down.
Looks like cover didn't do as well as they expected.

>>46228163
Ame and Kiara make less than Aia and Scarle based on liver comparative pay.

>>46228084
Except they don't but whatever. Cope harder.

>>46228178
>underpaid staff
>underpaid streamers
>spend all that money on interns to trash non-holo vtubers on websites
where did cover go so wrong

>>46228178
Cover's going fucking under at year's end isn't it?

>>46228252
See>>46225088 (still waiting on Ame and Kiara's numbers you coward)

>>46228281
Yagoo is perpetually inept. Please understand.

>>46228178
It's crazy to think AC opened at 6,510 yen per share in June 22 of last year while Cover can't even reach 1,500 yen per share.

NijiEN is being dragged down by drama.

HoloEN just went through an incredibly rough patch when their two top talents stopped streaming. This should have been NijiEN's moment to swoop in and take the market. But that never happened because NijiEN sucks so much balls. With all of the drama, the out of control degeneracy, nobody will touch it. Now they are continuing to make stupid decisions and ram the branch into the ground.

>>46228178
They're gonna go under 1000 by late April as Niji goes above 7000
Game over, bronies. Your company is kill at this rate.

>>46228212
>if Aia had as many donors as Amelia, Aia would make twice as much money as Amelia
Yeah but his point is that Hololive allowed Amelia to get to the point where she was making a million a year, Aia cannot make a million a year because her and Kotoko and the other iluna and xsoleil livers will soon be in competition with xiterra and gamers waves.

>>46228425
Anycolor will prevail in the end. Growth always trumps stagnation. Stagnation eventually leads to recession. With Cover's stock going down at an alarming rate, they're headed towards inevitable recession.

>>46228425
6k vs 1.4k
enough said

>>46228394
are you retarded anon, you have to judge by the number of shares. Besides Cover is only doing a limited offering, mostly so a couple of the early investors can cash out their shares.

>>46228284
That's not how stock prices work dude.

>>46228178
Down again holy, they say their talents get like 1.5m/year but with this, I don't think their investors can get that much lol

>>46228469
>Hololive allowed Amelia to get to the point where she was making a million a year
Holy fucking cope dude. Their valuation suggests the complete opposite.

>>46228538
Whatever helps you cope at night.
Cover will recess into debt by May at this rate. Also see>>46228560

>>46228084
Why are Nijikeks more concerned with sucking their CEO's wallet than the pitiful state of their liver organs?
At least your argument would make sense if your liver intestines didn't have low budget lagging models and 3D out of the PS2 era.

>>46228566
Anycolor has drastically more livers. Hololive has like 35 people, Anycolor has hundreds. So Hololive talents are making much more money per-person. These HoloEN girls are genuinely millionaires.

>>46221792
Merch...
How much % liver get from merch...
10...? 5...? 3...?

>>46228669
Their livers are doing just fine though. Why are you assuming otherwise?
>>46228679
>These HoloEN girls are genuinely millionaires
If they are then Cover is a pyramid scheme given their paltry valuation and average share on the market. There's absolutely no fucking way they make enough money when all evidence in their financial report suggests they're underpaid in comparison to Anycolor's staff.

>>46228538
Venture capital told Yagoo it's sink or swim, open up or sell out.
Guess it's time to sink then.

>>46228669
holobronies literally don't discuss vtuber content because they don't watch anything. Their only language is numbers and talking shit about non-holo vtubers. You're just mad that a non-holo company is beating you in your own shit game

>>46228538
They're unironically heading towards liquidation at the rate they're falling and investors are selling LMAO

>>46228669
Why are Holobronies unconcerned about their company's complete and total fall from grace after going public and having a disastrous IPO and financial report alike?
At least your argument would make sense if their value wasn't in the fucking low millions and their shares were at least above 4000

>>46228842
>holobronies literally don't discuss vtuber content because they don't watch anything. Their only language is numbers and talking shit about non-holo vtubers. You're just mad that a non-holo company is beating you in your own shit game
Unironically they don't have streams to watch or get maybe one 2 hour stream every few months.
It's so laughable how they seethe at non-holo vtubers for the sin of existing as if they have to conform to their standards.

All they can do is circlejerk over Pekora's ccv an that's it. Their entire existence outside of that is monitor other vtuber's twitter for "yabs"

>>46228995
And Pekora just had a massive yab in which a male voice was on her stream and she was laughing.

She's finished. Hololive is finished. No fucking wonder their slow but painful death began the MINUTE they went public. This is what karma looks like, bronies. Years of kicking us down when it was revealed once and for all that Nijisanji humbly put themselves atop? GET FUCKED BITCH

Cute Panko pic btw. She's my favorite in Phase.

I'd be really worried if I was a cover shareholder right now since anycolor's 2views are more profitable than holo JP3 and 4 combined

>>46229087
bisexual is a gender??????????????

>>46229087
See>>46228507
>>46228178
You lost either way.

>>46229104
I already sold. Invested $2000 in Cover Corp. It tanked to around $500 after 2 days. Never again. Maybe I'll invest in Anycolor next.

>>46228749
>when all evidence in their financial report suggests they're underpaid in comparison to Anycolor's staff
I just checked the thread. Any proof on this?
What is your formula?

>>46229279
Use your brain, brony. Read the market value and apply common sense.

>>46229356
>No proof
>name-calling
ok, then

nijicucks are going to look really stupid when cover allows more people to buy and it blows past anycolor

>>46229399
AS IF THATS EVER HAPPENING WITH THEIR CURRENT VALUE LMFUCKINGMAO

>>46229383
I accept your concession bud.
Really appreciate it!

>>46229399
cool but you look stupid now after years of overselling holo and then the financial reports came out and it turns out they're doing horrible

>>46229489
>no argument
right back at you

>>46229399
>he thinks that CEO guy has the guts to do it
Lmao cry more

>>46229399
Dude they're at the point of no return at this point.
Anycolor didn't drop by 2500 in its first week alone.

>>46229399
>J-JUST YOU WAIT T-THE STOCK WILL SOAR PAST AC ANY DAY NOW
KEK

>>46229399
Only with Chink, Saudi, Kike money.
Just face it, Yagoo is a fraud and his IPO was an objective failure and therefore the death of Hololive as we know it.

i'm starting to think the plan is to cast the net and catch as many "potential" big En vtubers before Hololive has the chance to find them out, if it works it works, if not they can just try again, they have the money to do so from not sharing it with the people that earned it

>>46229624
Damn, maybe pippa fans are actually alright. I thought you guys were all annoying but maybe that was just a bad impression from shitposters.

>>46229399
roru
rumao

>>46220277
As long as the wave brings in more money than they cost to maintain, more is better. And if they don't work out, just dump them. It's a win-win in any case. Riku doesn't care.

>>46229689
Can Hololive even hire anyone anymore with their losses and eventual debt at the trajectory they're headed?

>>46229399
TOTAL
HOLOBRONY
DEATH

>>46220277
Accelerate is not a meme

I'm out of the loop, wtf happened with Cover recently?

>>46229601
What does that mean? Explain what you're trying to say. What do you mean "point of no return at this point?" What is the significance of "drop by 2500 in its first week alone?" What economic theory are you running on?

>>46220277
Yup

>>46229861
IPO was a massive flop. Financial report revealed sweatshop like conditions.
They're losing money at an alarming rate
Massive cuts are expected by end of Q2 at their trajectory

>>46229862
The holobrony grasps at straws as it's company draws it's final breath.

>>46229873
Irrelevant when revenues are triple the way they were before and pay for lower tier livers surpass those of higher tier Hololivers.
>>46229810
It's the winning formula actually. More corpos should unironically take Niji's lead if they want to compete.

>>46229919
No, faggot. You numberfags have somehow evolved to be even worse by engaging in talking about fucking stocks when you monkeys don't know and can't even explain how a short sell order is executed. What the fuck does "point of no return at this point" mean? Is that what happened to AMD? Was Tesla there in November?

>>46225149
>4 generic pretty boys straight off the factory line
1 good shota, that's all I fucking ask.

>>46230039
Read the graph, illiterate Holonigger.
THD

>>46220359
kek

>>46230039
You're trying too hard.

>>46223703
They stream at chinese prime time LMAO

>>46230097
What graph? That Anycolor blew all their gains and not only went right back to where they started, but is actually currently losing, by percentage, more than Cover is losing you had you invested with them day one?

>>46230415
Nigga are you numerically retarded? Cover's losing more right now despite being worse off

>>46229695
Don't get it twister retard, this is just a grifter fag, niji is a black company kys nijifag

>>46227945
>Yagoo's VR
Is that what they're calling a bucket of cocaine these days?

>>46230505
Which is the bigger number? 5.84% or 3.5%?

JUST FUCKING KILL YOURSELF HOLOBRONIES

>Arguing which black company is more black
lmao

>>46230561
Nijibros, how do we spin this?

>>46230789
holy fuck this
are the retards arguing in this thread too stupid or are they just willfully ignorant?

>>46230684
GET THE FUCKING ROPE NIJITURDS

>>46230982
Probably bots or paid employees. Corpos do a lot of that.

Another day, another time to point and laugh at Nijifags. Can't believe they got mogged by the shock jock pink rabbit.

>>46230415
>what is a correction
>as Anycolor is worth 4x more than Cover

>>46230415
>>46230561
2 weeks ago you made fun of AC's stock for being at 3k.
Now (You) are making fun of AC's stock for being at 6k.
Then in the future you'll make fun of AC's stock for being at 9k.

>>46230555
Contrasting financial reports paint a completely different picture.
>>46230556
Honestly now that you say this I kinda wonder what illicit drugs go on at Cover HQ with their shit they're pulling.

>>46230561
Who's valued at 4x more than the other?
>>46230982
Fuck off. Holobronies deserve getting roasted alive after years of slandering the one that actually won the financial battle in the end. Now the rest of /vt/ will look to Nijisanji as the pioneers and trendsetters of the industry just like the good old days.

>>46231134
This entire thread is utterly destroying Holoshit though. Just see>>46221792
>>46228178
>>46228507

>>46231134
Pippa's oshi isn't Mukkun's cocksleeve anymore.
It's Pomu. Niji-Phase broship is real.

>>46231328
Not talking about your retarded financial nonsense, I was responding so you don't get it twisted just because a anon used a Pippa pic doesn't mean he's a Phasefag, niji is shit

>>46231523
/pcg/ hates Holoshit you retarded tourist.
Nijisanji is more bearable across other genrals. Just accept no one likes Holobronies.

>>46230561
6130 is bigger than 1351

>>46230561
The funny part is that, Cover's peak isn't even captured in YTD because it was so brief. They are actually down 32% from their peak.

>>46231564
Ford Motor company is $12.05, they must be 50x less valuable than Nijisanji

>>46231381
anon, while i agree holofags have been annoying shit children for years and this is part of their comeuppance for it, dont suck nijisanji off either, nijis a shitty company and just because theyre destroying the holobronies doesnt mean we should forget that.

>>46231777
It didn't open at 2000 you stupid mutt. You're looking at a bugged chart. Why do you faggots engage in this when you don't even know what you're talking about?

>>46231777
That metric would make 5032 down by 50%, Nijibro.
We cannot use that

Kill youselfs holonigger mods why did you delete my post???

Can Nijifans explain why Any Color just keep releasing these gen's so quickly? Why would you do that?

>>46231844
Unironically yes. Ford is garbage

>>46232040
because niji's strategy is to have someone streaming at all times in every time zone

>>46231561
I see Nijitrash get shit on in /pcg/ all the time. And Pippa is a massive Holofan.

>>46232040
It makes a lot of money. Does that answer your question?

>>46232127
pippa is a grifter, shes a fan of whoever she thinks will help her get more attention

>>46232127
Pippa also shits on nijiEN while simultaneously collab begging to Selen and Rosemi.
She's just in it for the grift.
Same reason she KNEELED to twitter troons after playing HL.

>>46232191
>generals love the resident bugpeople of /vt/, we swear!

>>46232246
>told that Nijis aren't actually liked in /pcg/
>immediately starts attacking one of the most favoured figures of the general
Very bearable.

>>46232340
What the fuck are you talking about, I'm stating facts about Pippa.

>>46221792
And none of the livers are getting any money from merch. They admitted that they have to live off superchats. You think many will stay that long if they have to live only on that alone?

>>46232416
They did not say that. They only said that merch gives them the lowest cut, not that they get NO cut. The cut could be 30%, which is basically free money for them since they don't have to fork up any of their own personal money to get the merch made (unlike Hololive)

>>46232246
>collab begging to Selen and Rosemi.
Source?

So far the only NijiEN stream today to beat a rather underperforming Vesper zatsu is Pomu's, and that was just barely. That's 10 streams and counting that failed to get to 2k peak viewers vs one that did.

>>46229399
Your beloved Yahoo faggot is selling his stock and dump your idol company to the Chink hand lol

>>46233383
Vesper got raided and had an N peak, imagine how low it would be if he didn't get raided.

>>46220277
Kek