/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

gotta play the numbers game.

Jews are slave owners?

>>46188028
This shit probably takes couple of days to publish but it's a rather funny coincidence

>>46188028
Several of the things she claims agencies provide we know for a fact the big agencies don't provide so its moot either way. Surprising to hear that the jew agency is the most generous with its talents though.

>>46188028
What Kson rant? I'm out of the loop.

>>46188281
she said it's bad to harass and demean vtubers who don't follow the unicorn rulebook
this angered the island people and rightoids

>>46188028
Sheer coincidence.
Funny nonetheless.

>>46188272
Jews have money? No way

>>46188272
>Surprising to hear that the jew agency is the most generous with its talents though.
idol is confirmed to be funded by Mossad and Jidf. Your taxes literally fund those globalist vtubers!

>>46188028
This got me to sub & watch, based bri'ish corposlave

>>46188281
compared agency contracts to slavery and saying she wants to break the dominance of agencies in vtubing

>>46188473
this did not happen

>>46188028
Grifter
Also ironic coming from "idol" corp

>>46188472
This makes you one of 15k today.

>>46188473
She might have a point if Kson is talking about Wactor types.

>>46188028
I still feel like IdolCorp is too generous. How can they NOT be up to something?

>>46188548
Are you saying she got 15,000 in just one day? Oy vey the numbers just don't add up

>>46188424
Both my taxes and my wage go to idol? I couldn't be happier.

>>46188520
>Also ironic coming from "idol" corp
ironic how?

>>46188028
This bitch is still chasing the algorithm by spamming clickbait shorts?

>>46188028
>chinks and kikes tag teaming kekson
Can twitter and taiwan save her?

>>46188572
It was seething about Hololive. Because of Kanata going full autism during the Minecraft collab.

>>46188641
She actually did. She's inclining HARD.

>>46188655
More than chasing it I'd say she caught it

>>46188028
she already has 150k? what the fuck

>>46188736
What does that have to do with anything?

>leech counter soap-boaxing
>le heckin based I love soap-boxing when it appeals to me

>>46188633
I'm sure it's pure coincidence.

>>46188830
She was at 150k 12hours ago. She's at 157k now.

>>46188572
yeah but agencies that screw over their talents like that never really bounce back, see dotlive

>>46188736
Stop repeating /vt/ rrats like it's fact, retard.

is this female Yahtzee?

>>46188028
Shots fired.

>>46188281
>8:08 [EN] Kson: Weebs are supposed to be people who adore Japan.
>8:15 [EN] Kson: But....
>8:41 [EN] Kson: In VTuber culture, there's the concept of "gachikoi," or being really in love with the streamer, right?
>8:57 [EN] Kson: And some people get angry about a streamer having a significant other.
>9:04 [EN] Kson: I have no problem at all with the gachikoi concept.
>9:10 [EN] Kson: And fans supporting creators is great.
>9:13 [EN] Kson: That's not the issue.
>9:22 [EN] Kson: I'm talking the "unicorn" troublemakers.
>9:33 [EN] Kson: The ones who flip out when they disagree with something.
>9:42 [EN] Kson: And now, it seems like the term "weeb" is referring to THOSE guys instead.
>9:45 [EN] Kson: I only learned this recently.
>9:58 [EN] Kson: Now, it seems like the more extreme someone is, the "cooler" they are.
>10:21 [EN] Kson: I don't mind it if fans dislike their favorite streamer having a significant other.
>10:30 [EN] Kson: The way they connect with creators is up to them.
>10:59 [EN] Kson: However, there are people saying things like, "I only support female creators who don't collab with guys. That's how weebs SHOULD be."
>11:20 [EN] Kson: They spend all their energy in putting down female creators with even a hint of a guy in their life.
>12:04 [EN] Kson: It's getting to the point where those who cross the line are considered "real" weebs.
>12:15 [EN] Kson: They misunderstood that that is how they should act.
>12:27 [EN] Kson: That those who make their faves cry are the REAL fans.
>12:30 [EN] Kson: This is very bad.
>12:35 [EN] Kson: This is in fact terrible.
>13:01 [EN] Kson: And they consider those who don't share their views "not real weebs."
that's it

>>46188272
Aviel was your typical tech bro before starting Idol, meaning he did this because he saw a business opportunity. Like, I’m sure he genuinely likes vtubers too, but he wouldn’t get into the business without having a good financial reason.
In this case, I’m pretty sure he realized most corpos’ issues come from cost-cutting measure. So get a bunch of VC funding and start a corpo that doesn’t cut costs so you avoid the problems that other small corpos like Phase or Tsunderia (RIP) went through, plus some of the issues that even HoloEN and NijiEN experience.

>and do you think someone with my accent would put up being thieved from? I do the thieving around here
My fucking sides.

>>46189040
She just wants you to be a mindless simp. Got it.

>>46189085
Honestly, Aviel was pretty inexpirienced when he decided to make idol. But the guy really learns from any expirience or mistake.

>>46188830
It's got to be bots or something, this fucker had 50k a few weeks ago, all her genmates still do. She just exploded out of nowhere. Can't be the shorts, they all put out shorts. They all had ads and donothons.
>>46188763

>>46189040
not gonna post transcripts from the rest of the stream?

>>46188655
If it works why stop?

>>46189231
Look at her shorts. Or just look at vtuber shorts. Rin is there. The Algorythm choose her.
A short of hers exploded and on the next one she namedropped Gura. After that it's been easy.

>>46189040
None of this has anything to do with the topic or vtuber agencies

>>46189230
I think this is the master transcript I found

>>46188424
>confirmed
yes by your dreams

>>46189231
I watched some of her shorts just now.
Jesus christ, this is literally just vtuber Yahtzee.

>>46189718
literally who?

>>46189782
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IEIj9hXYFJk

>>46189040
>10:59 [EN] Kson: However, there are people saying things like, "I only support female creators who don't collab with guys. That's how weebs SHOULD be."
>11:20 [EN] Kson: They spend all their energy in putting down female creators with even a hint of a guy in their life.
Is kson retarded? Why does she expect GFE/unicorn money while also wanting to do male collabs? You lose that revenue ceiling the moment you start being a whore. You can't gaslight them into accepting this behavior.
Lonely fucks will pay out more. You just have to keep up the illusion for a few years, and you can be a whore as much as you want after you're set with investments and have gotten a decent cash flow. This sorta shit happens with normie flesh tubers who have nothing to do with vtubers or idolshit as well.

>>46189873
wow, he still exists? I stopped following his reviews years ago.

>>46189903
how are you fucking negative IQ fetal alcohol syndrome nignogs struggling so much to understand what you are reading?
>They spend all their energy in putting down female creators with even a hint of a guy in their life.
THIS IS THE PROBLEM
SHE'S NOT SAYING YOU HAVE TO WATCH THEM

>>46189231
She puts out shorts people are interested in, not just some random noises or a gameplay clip with hilarious shrieking.

>>46189999
checked

>>46188028
You actually made me sub to a bong...

>>46189999
He does and his reviews still get high numbers.
He's one of the few reviewers that stuck around and somehow didn't have any yabs. (that we know of)

>>46190171
bizarre how Rin ended up being the most sane/entertaining/hard working out of IdolEN. everyone else either went menhera or just stopped giving shit to the whole "being a streamer" thing

>>46188028
Maybe the jews arent so bad

>>46190332
Fuyo is good

>>46190332
I like how she is funny, but you can also see that she tries really hard to be funny

>>46188028
Slaves would never

>>46189343
Eventually you come to learn that /vt/ spins the truth however they want. That was the official translation which was construed as
>Hololive is a slave company and I'm going to bring them down your oshi will be made to kneel to talent freedom
just as I'm sure someone will construe this post as
>Kson dindu muffin hololive are...le bad!
I think >>46181221 described it best personally

>>46190332
What about Yuko?

>>46190539
many types of slaves,
this one is sex slave

>>46190580
anon, don't look

>>46190417
Fuyo is alright cunny, problem for me is her accent sort of filters me as well as her choices for what to stream

>>46190580
didn't this girl masturbate on stream?

>>46188028
Who are these people comparing corpo life to slavery? Beyond Kson who did it just yesterday?

>>46188348
She said a lot more than that.

>>46189903
>ESL
>no reading comprehension
Stop, pls. It's so embarrassing to read your brown asses being so angry about things you clearly can't understand.

>>46190665
twitter, tiktok

>>46190580
yeah, about that...

>>46188281
Here is a translation of what Kson was saying during the stream. It was a rant and somewhat rambling and all over the place.
She wasn’t saying an agency is slavery and even said there is a difference between following guidelines and slavery, she just doesn’t like the idea of strong restrictiveness becoming the expected norm across all vtubing from fans, especially those overseas.
Points that I think she was trying to make
>being a weeaboo does not require being a unicorn, being a unicorn is not the default state for all Japanese or something to idolize
>vtubing streaming has more possibilities for variety. Some go an idol approach, others are comedians and others just get their tits out. All approaches can be valid.
>that said she understands vtubing is a business and businesses will follow the money, same for vtubers themselves so if they choose to go a certain route over others for that reason then that is alright
>while she herself believes a vtuber will do better if they don’t have significant others to distract from vtubing she doesn’t believe it is mandatory to be that way and it is just her view, other options are still respectable
>Japan tends to favor obedience and America traditionally favors independence, but blind restrictive obedience is not something she likes and not something she wants to become seen as the only “real” way of vtubing and it has become more like that overseas as well due to weeaboo thinking that is an ideal part of real Japanese culture
I guess a comparison might be Towa’s situation. She had her infamous yab (not the lying part, the voices part) and it caused her numbers and growth yo plummet on the Japanese side. Overseas fans saviorfagged and helped prop her up as she was forced to shift her content and rebuild her channel. These days you’re more likely to see people overseas saying it served her right and laughing about it. Holos used to collab with males pretty regularly in their early days but that fell to the wayside with additional focus on idol and unicornpandering. For those that accept the risks and want to chase that for dollars that is their choice, but the important thing is that it is their choice. Those that go a different route aren’t automatically worse, just different.

>>46190772
qrd?

>>46190721
RACIS' ASS CRACKA' ASS WHYTE BOI CAYNT HANDLE A NIGGA BECAUSE THEY DICKS IZ BIGGA

>>46188028
She is numberfag and leech prime.

>Not my fault-
>Non Anon / 亜音ノン [PRISM Project]
>2.1K views1 day ago

couple hours after
>IT'S YOUR FAULT
>Rin Penrose Ch. idol-EN
>135K views1 day ago

i'm too lazy of making screenshots of these #shorts thumbnails

>>46190657
yup, was pretty based. shame she hasn't done another ASMR since, but maybe soon since she did do a stream writing a script for an upcoming one

>>46188655
and she's not stopping anytime soon

>>46190807
don't feel like catching a vacation, just do archive reps

>>46188028
God I hate vtubers with an attitude. Just make cute noises and suck my dick in ASMR.

>>46190874
At least watch the clip, false flagger. She mentions this content is scheduled by her manager.

>>46190805
>Japan tends to favor obedience and America traditionally favors independence, but blind restrictive obedience is not something she likes and not something she wants to become seen as the only “real” way of vtubing and it has become more like that overseas as well due to weeaboo thinking that is an ideal part of real Japanese culture
Blind obedience is bad but too much freedom with no filter or someone to wrangle you in leads to you spiraling out of control.

>>46191000
But she said she always ignores her manager in a short!
Was she lying?

>>46188473
>compared agency contracts to slavery
It is not far from the truth and there is such a thing in at least one company.

>>46188028
>Jew corpo
Nope, I'd sooner watch zhangtubers.

>Panics about Yuko's numbers
>Immediately pushes shill threads for her shit karaoke
Blacked boofags are so funny. She's going to sing for 2 more hours to get those 200 niggas now coincidentally.

>>46188648
Do your Yuko reps

>>46190580
lol lmao even

>>46190332
She was very hard working with similar style and creativity in her pl with no returns to show for it. I'm not surprised at all by her effort, but impressed at how it is working out this time.

>>46190956
Mods don't give a shit about Idol, just say it. I also have no idea what you're on about.
Unless you're talking about the yodeling pickle or something.

>>46191145
Yes, to stream.
Same short btw.

>>46190657
Clip pls

>>46190805
>These days you’re more likely to see people overseas saying it served her right and laughing about it.
That was already happening in those days though, virtually nothing has changed

>>46188655
>it's okay when the dumb shark does it
to be fair though, the shark did nothing to actually chase it, youtube just gave it to her for free.

>>46190956
well I did my reps
it's definitely kiwi fags getting doxx shit wrong again right haha..?

>>46190805
She didn't really say anything that a lot of younger Japanese people themselves would disagree with. The thing that Japanese people seem to like the least about their own culture is how stifling and conformist certain parts of it can be.

>>46191278
sorry buddy, it was PAID CONTENT although someone did post it via catbox in the Idol EN split one time so that was pretty based

>>46188691
>Twitter
Lmao
>Taiwan
Depends on how many Taiwanese kgumis are still with her.

>>46191094
Sure.
>Chat: it’s the difference between following guidelines and being a slave
>Kson: Yes! That is so true!
Guidelines are good, but I think she doesn’t want vtubing reduced by degrees to its early state where the girl is just an actor with an avatar with no control or input at all on what they do and how they do it. At least she doesn’t want that to be seen as the ideal or only acceptable format, especially by people overseas.

>>46191356

>>46189085
I wouldn't really just call him a "tech bro". he was one of the most popular Israeli Youtubers, his experiences as a content creator gives him a pretty big leg up in trying to run an agency. it's the same kind of situation as Woowakgood, the very popular Korean VRchat streamer who started the Korean vtuber agency Isegye Idol

>>46191356
Yeah dont worry about it. Just keep saying its not real in your head and you can cope easily

>>46191372
Compared to Amerimutts. Its really a usual stupid argument/comparison. It never works. Many mutt journos have been writing the same Japan hate article like everyday for a decade and mutts have yet to be able to make anything comparable to the Japanese media. Kson should prove how she's right herself by making actual new creative and innovative contents. Otherwise her argument never stands.

>Title changed to SINGING TILL 60K SUBS
Nice thread Yuko, chinks really hate KEKson. Easy subs!

I was thinking, do regular fleshtuber streamers have similar sort of talent agencies to vtubers? Or is this more of a unique vtuber thing?

>>46190610
>>46190772
QRD, jew company memes aside and despite not watching them, i was happy for their success. I had the impression the ghost was doing a great job so far.

>>46190580

>>46191898
they do but it's much more hands off and just for tax and sponsorship shit

>>46188424
>>46188272
This thread is filled with jew apologists. Be careful what you read.

>/jidf/ factions trying to kill each other
It's like the real Israel.

>>46191987
Aviel is the most based jew in existance.
The only month they actually did profit in was febuary and he instantly reinvested for 3dio asmr mics for all the Talents.

>>46188028
Based

>>46192051
Here's another one.

>>46191352
>bringing up the shark out of no where
I thought Rin said to stop doing that.
Gura’s situation was a mix of right time, right place with good model, the novelty of the HoloEN buff and her previous online presence finishing the initial push as she was already nearly a million subs strong on her PL too.
Early Kiara and Mori are a better comparison for Rin, as she chases numbers like crazy similar to early Kiara but builds her persona more off Mori and Pippa’s “I’m not like those other girls, I’m so detached but not really haha” style. It isn’t surprising that Rin is such a big fan of Mori.

So what I'm gathering is that bargin bin Gura has at least masturbated in a member's stream with her yodeling pickle. Is that somewhere in the ballpark?

>>46191898
esports organizations

>>46191771
eh, if it worked for Hoomans and Saplings, it can surely work for Boobros too, right?

>>46192108
with her stuffies

>>46191964
That's the sense I got. Like I couldn't imagine regular streamers being marketed the same way that vtubers are. I wonder why that's never happened.

>>46192144
don't forget doxxbeats

>>46190805
kson is the prime example of someone needing to be tardwrangled

>>46190067
>with even a hint of a guy in their life.
After the Amouranth BS with normalfags can you blame them?

>>46192108
She didnt. You are being jewed into buying her membership. But you already knew that dont you?

>>46191928
She is actively getting blacked.

>>46192108
you were actually able to hear the shuffles of her spats being removed too, it was pretty hot ngl

>>46191592
does he know about Isegye?

>>46192194
oh, and teakeks! though I'm convinced the teamates of today are not the same as the ones at her debut

>>46190539
kson my sex slave pig for (me)

>>46192111
That is probably the closest to the same thing.

>>46188028
Kson has a point. Like a really good point.
Problem is the "best" corpo Vtuber agency right now is known to actually do well for their employees so it looks like she's doing some malding cope right now.

>>46189040
so she is /here/ and thinks we somehow make up even a significant part of most communities, when in reality we are just the loud and obnoxious minority at best,

>>46192206
the vod is nuked, it's not in her membership anymore

>>46192410
Nah. /here/ just became more toxic over time and it's leaking
Probably also more about twitter. People nowadays are just too extreme and feel the need to join a side instead of doing what they think

I am the strongest boo bro
>didn't search for blacked doxx
>didn't watch juna collab

yuko got blacked?
like for onlyfans content?

>>46191228
>>46191356
>>46190956
That's it? She fucked a nigger. That's all?

>>46192520
Cuck bro.

>>46192520
It still doesn't make sense to me, that we hate Juna for collabing with a male friend of hers

>>46192144
Missing a core detail in those cases, at least.

>>46192206
You ok janny? You do know that going on a powertrip will get you fired right?

>>46192615
weak should fear the strong

>>46192196
I would say Mike is a better example. Kson needs guidance, Mike needs wrangling.
Comes with the territory and their content. The more you do gfe and purity pandering, the more careful you’ll need to be, especially if you are as unstable as Mike.
Unfortunately Kson is a bit too big for her britches so guidance can only do so much. At least she means well and isn’t trying to be selfish about things.

>>46192309
Isegye's first auditions took place 6 months before the Idol-HE auditions (June '21 vs December '21) so he would have already been in the stages of securing initial funding and organizing.
no clue if he's heard of it since and Isegye do usual Twitch meta bullshit that doesn't work on YT

>>46192428
So like Haachama’s masturbation stream?

>>46192696
unironically what's wrong with having a black boyfriend, assuming that is even the case because it's fucking kiwi shit

>>46188272
Jew are good to those that do their bidding and make them money. Like being a pimp's top hoe.

>>46192829
Found another jew apologist. How much you getting paid for this damage control?

>>46192829
You do know where you are, right anon?

>kiwi fags blacked posting here too
amazing... you guys really have bbc on your brain all the time dont you?
is it not enough that even your own filth is making fun of your shitty rrat of transatlantic black cock from 4 years ago?

>>46191556
As opposed to her whores at her whore house agency that is directly responsible for ruining vtubers image in the west thus building this retaliation from the actual paying fans who are the core audience of this entire hobby in the first place? She should realize that her trash agency is the root cause for all of this right?

>>46192889
I DO IT FOR FREE

>>46192617
no one there cares about Juna and Rin, Idol is just boo bros working their stuff over and over again.

>>46193006
>"Y-You guys are achshually the ones always thinking about big black cocks!!!"

>>46188655
Yes, and it's working.

>>46193084
yes...
go look at your vt board its literally like 40% of what you talk about

>>46193006
Just like she wasnt gangbanged in the /k/ meetup. Dont worry anon if you defend her hard enough she will definitely have sex with you too

>>46193069
The boo bros are just discord fags that like to spam the fucking general. Rin was always close in popularity and had near to no discussion.
Now she has tripple the subs and double the viewers and boobros still get upity and spam any discussion of hers.
Discord groomers are fucking subhuman

Hi Rin

>>46193221
was froot there too?

>>46192953
Watch out anon! Tyrone is going to fuck your oshi!!!!

All I know is Yuko is cunny. As long as the nigga ain't on stream or brought up by Yuko, who cares?

Amerimutt mods silently deleted my normal post kek you can go fuck yourselves. Always makes me feel weird as hell that mutts can't take any criticism from foreigners, and suddenly turn into jingoistic patriots/nationalists/authoritarians despite being leftists.

>>46193493
this is why no one takes you seriously

>>46193486
There are dozens of better cunny chubas out there that don't have a history of being dicked down by a nigger. If you stick with Yuko, you're simply into that.

>>46193392
thanks for the heads up anon, I'll be sure to share the video once they finish!

>>46193486
She cancelled a stream to play games with him.

>>46193672
After membership posting about being down lately and loving her boobros so much.
La+ was publicly executed for less

>>46193672
I hope she and Vesper have fun together over this long vacation
oh you meant Yuko not Gura, my bad

>>46193493
It's highly likely it's nocturnal SEA mods.

>>46193038
seaniggers and spic ESLs don't have a say in what the West wants in vtubing

>>46193764
Gura will always be 1000x the vtuber that Yuko is, blackedbro.

>>46193833
if she'll ever stream

>>46193672
im gonna apex statistcs ON THIS BITCH WATCH OUT

>>46193606
So if he were a Maxican or Russian, THEN it'd be okay? She's not your gf/sister/daughter so why do you care?
>>46193672
She isn't the first nor will she be the last chuuba to do so. Don't be exclusive to one vtuber either. You should have more than one you watch but it's fine to have only one oshi.

>>46193876
not that Yuko is particularly active on this front.

>4 Rin threads on the log
It seems the sisters are panicking now that she is passing Flopsoleil in subs

>>46193876
she streamed more the past week than Yuko has lol

>>46194043
at least kotoka knows what a dishwasher looks like

>>46194043
>/jidf/ will have to deal not only with the /pcg/ and kiwi raids, but also nijiniggers
oh for fucks sake

>>46194105
Why, she looked into a mirror?

>>46194043
I think you might be on to something.
I guess it can only go downhill from here

>>46194043
anything to deflect what happened with kson and niji threatening to leave /vt/

>>46194043
Gura would be proud

>>46193672
im skeptical of that

>>46189361
huh, it wasn't that bad.
Props to her, 5 years in, 2 deads, 2 resurrections and she still malds people just by breathing.
Anyway, the landscape do be looking rad if what she is saying ends up happening lol

>>46194259
>niji threatening to leave /vt/
HAHA WHAT?

>>46194043
She is a dramafagging leech like Kyo, it isn’t surprising that people take notice.

>>46191267
>>46191145
>>46191000
>>46190874
She also plan on fighting her manager outside a Tesco

>>46194547
Someone got assblasted enough to make a niji board on a bunker website because people keep laughing at nijis in the catalogue.

>>46194547
Nijifags made their own board on 8 chan

>>46190551
All I got from this is no one knows how to compromise anymore.

>>46194624
Will she win?
Serious question.

>>46194699
She is rich enough to buy herself the win. No way she will fight herself

>>46194699
she's a brit so def gonna bring a knife

>>46194630
>>46194637

>>46194630
That is a shame. Most NijiEN are shit but it doesn’t need to be that way, nor is it universal.

Rin is the normal one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LozCkXddz_0

>>46194630
Wow what a great idea! Come one nijibros, let's all leave this nasty place behind! Every single one of us!

>>46194869
it was like a couple enna fans who did it most niji nigs didn't care from what I saw

>>46194983
Funny, because she's the biggest weeb of them all.
The only one that knows japanese, japanese culture etc. She just sane, not normal.

>>46195060
>enna fans
pigs really do fly huh?

>>46194991
Yeah! Except for you fags who want to talk about Pomu, Selen, Rosemi and Scarle. I hate you guys so you should stay /here/ and maintain your generals.

>>46194547

>>46194043
Ngl their streams and overall content, when you compare it to the dildos, cult posts, double-crossing statements and overall garbage in Xsoleil, is much better and healthier.

Literally the only thing worth the criticism is the fact they took advantage of the Shorts algorithm to get a boost.

>>46188028
Woman working for jew company says "actually it's not slavery!"
Marx tried to warn you!

>>46193038
>get talent freedom
>decide to act like a whore and coombait
But it’s the fans fault for not sticking around to watch it… lmao. Whore wants everything down to twitch hot tub standards. Fair enough but people will still call you a whore, Kson.

>>46195268
>Literally the only thing worth the criticism is the fact they took advantage of the Shorts algorithm to get a boost.
What's wrong with that?

>>46195455
for some reason /vt/ think its unethical to post shorts or have a tiktok and get your channel over that way
punkalopi did something similar and they hate her for it too

>>46188633
They want to be the #1 VTuber group in the world, so they're pumping tons of money into it because that's the only way to compete with the established names. Don't expect them to stay so generous forever.

quick someone bring up the intrusive ads Idol specifically run on Youtube! but make sure not to mention they're tailored to your history!

>>46195455
Nothing is wrong with using the algorithm to boost popularity. Every YouTuber interested in growing does it, and I wouldn’t be surprised if corporate Vtubers were encouraged heavily to do it. The only issue that probably comes with it is that many of these Vtubers may not get the overlap of actual viewers and fans on their streaming or event content compared to their shorts and polls.

>>46195512
they hate her for being a homobegger. Yes she still didn't collab with a male doesn't chance that she was thirsty for it on week one.

>>46195685
I don’t get intrusive ads on YouTube because I’ve been running adblockers for over a decade and anyone seeing ads is a certified retard (unless you are whitelisting people you actually want to support, fair enough then.) There’s also nothing wrong with adds to try and get people to watch you. That’s just weird tribalfagging cope.

>>46195512
>punkalopi
I mean does anyone actually like that girl?

>>46188028
Based. We all know Kson is just salty

>>46194043
>she already beat Zaion
oh nonono sisters???

>>46195512
At least /vt/ now has a legitimate reason to hate Punkalopi now
https://twitter.com/MarinaVT_/status/1640871117866008577

>>46195919
She's actually there, didnt notice at first

>>46195992
GOTTA SUPPORT THE CAUSE

>>46195919
literally who

>>46191372
They also haven't experienced what total disregard for others and your environment looks like. Something the west is experiencing en masse.

>>46196049
>geega
I should be surprised, but then I remember how often she collabs with and raids porcelainmaid or joel or whatever his name is
males with a female avatar are always trouble

>>46195919
Not just Zaion, she's past Kotoka and Doppio and will be passing Ver in a couple of hours

>>46196037
I also think it's funny, but looking at it in retrospective, it seemed more like he had no choice as a corpo chuba.

>>46196049
Froot. Lopi and a bunch of actual whos, yeah
I think Geega and Alfhilde are somewhat known on twitch

>>46196049
Is this some mental disability awareness stream? Are they inadvertently going to save another school from being shot up by a troon (instead of the usual trenchcoat whitey.) Anyway, they all go on the unrecommended channel list if they aren’t already.

>>46196193
Nah, faggot could’ve ignored it or said nothing. But he wanted to be a fairweather twitterfag and appease his worst fans.

>>46196362
Tbf, Leader is always the one that actively takes the blame.
We don't know why exactly they decided not to play it, because ID and JP had no issues.

>>46195720
Your kind got outed as mexiniggers larping. It´s pathetic at this point.
>Yes she still didn't collab
Holy schizo

>>46196158
jesus, you are right. This means Idol right now has the potential to give you a better headstart to your career than nijiEN. How wild is that?

>>46196049
>>46195919
https://twitter.com/MarinaVT_/status/1640871117866008577/hidden

>>46196541
>one talents reaches the nijiflooor
>THIS MEANS IDOL CAN GIVE YOU A BETTER HEADSTART
no you freaking retard

>>46195685
I love vtuber ads. More small corpos should utilize them, just like shorts.

>>46188272
Considering Idol sold itself as the agency that actually provides stuff for their talent it isn't really suprising. Apparently the jew beats the zaibatsu.

>>46196541
Didnt kyoresu have 500k subs and she cant even get 500 viewers

>>46188424
>taxes are being payed to provide multiple loli anime girls on youtube
Based?

>>46196883

>>46196463
Chatter: "Will you play this game?"
Altranny:
>a. Ignore it
>b. Say "I will not play it" and done
>c. Use made-up bullying to his persona as an excuse for why he supports Bullying others playing the game.
Every other person in EN used a or b. Only that troon used c.

>>46197006
I hate her clickbait titles.

>>46188424
Hololive is being funded by Tencent who were the ones that asked that Kson be fired. Now that they're publicly traded it's only a matter of time before Blackrock get involved.

>>46197158
pippa does the same shit, It triggers me

>>46188272
>Several of the things she claims agencies provide we know for a fact the big agencies don't provide so its moot either way.
This is clever marketing for IdolEN where they use the recent Kson rant against hololive to say that not all corpos are the same.

>>46192482
>/here/ just became more toxic over time and it's leaking
I wish but this is only happening in your head

>>46197499
No surprise there.
It is the same thing you see on clips, no surprise that Rin is trying to cut out the middleman and do the shit short clickbait content directly.

>>46188272
DYRBI?

>>46197877
I don't care about clickbait titles on clips or shorts it's when they do it on streams that annoy me

>>46197263
>Tencent who were the ones that asked that Kson be fired
what the fuck are you talking about retard?

>>46198253
At the end of the day this is their career, and youtube and the audience react to that shit. I have no lessons to teach Pippa or Rin on growing a youtube channel from a low base, however distasteful I might find elements of it.

>>46188028
>marriage is slavery
>debt is slavery
>tax is slavery
>religion is slavery
>waging is slavery
>sports is slavery
>vtubing is slavery
I think the word slavery might be being misused

>>46197866
Sorry but you are wrong. I suggest you actually egosa your oshi on twitter and see for yourself. Search random chuuba's names and you'll find loads of posts just talking shit that's basically straight out of this board in replies to bannedvtmemes posts. Containment has been completely broken.

>>46189718
Right? I like Rin, she's good. She's not triple her genmates quality, though. The Algorithm has selected it's chosen one.

>>46189782
Literal Who no more, she's gained more subs in the last month than anyone in hololive or niji

>>46197145
That's just Altare being Cringe.
Choosing C makes any other Talent not having to deal with answering it.

>>46190805
Ok, when you put it like that, I largely agree with kson. Except given that kson’s, you know, American, and what’s more, she grew up in ATLANTA, it was beyond fucking stupid to draw a comparison with slavery.
Anyway, I’m an anon who doesn’t really care about any individual vtuber being an indie or not. I don’t think twitch indies are “ruining” vtubing, and I agree that passing the unicorn test is a very inefficient proxy for the real thing most anons seem to want, which are vtubers who appeal to weebs.
Except I also think corpos are an important part of making vtubing more…idk, “professional”? For one thing, your average indie vtuber isn’t particularly concerned with the growth of vtubing as a whole, only the growth of their own channel. Which is fine, and I don’t blame them. But having corpos whose incentive is to grow vtubing in the west is also important in the long run.
My personal opinion of most twitch indies is that watching them feels more weeb than watching fleshtubers, but not as weeb as watching most small corpos or Hololive. I don’t always want to go full weeb while watching vtubers, but I’d certainly like it if there were more options that resembled JP.
The issue with being a Twitch indie is that if you want to grow, you need to make content that’s relatable to Twitch viewers. You kind of have to water down some of the weeb stuff by replacing it with Twitch culture. Only the power and backing of corpos are enough to expose more of the west to JP-style vtubing, to the point where it becomes a viable option for more vtubers.
>tldr: I don’t hate indie vtubers, but we absolutely need corpos to making vtubing a bigger thing in EN over the long run

>>46190332
Are you insane? Nobody works harder or tries more than Fuyo. Pochi is a quitter, Juna is a menhera whore, but Yuko and Riro are decent too.

I get so tired of Rin's "lol I hate everything" doomer Kronii schtick after about 5 minutes every time I try to watch her.

>>46201614
Nice, society is healing

>>46191592
My apologies. I based my statement off seeing his LinkedIn, and I didn’t realize he was already a youtuber before starting Idol.
That said, Aviel’s pretty good at putting a professional face on vtubing for the VCs. I mean, just look at Idol Corp’s website. It doesn’t feel anything like the content the girls actually create, but that’s fine, since I’m pretty sure that site is meant for the investors.
So, yes, as someone who wants Idol to succeed and for “putting money into your talents instead of cheaping out” to be the norm, I’m glad they’re led by someone who knows when to be a tech bro and when to be the CEO of a vtuber corpo.

>>46201100
"Muh Freedoms" is the religion of the godless west

>>46194699
Rin is such a lying bitch. No way she’s ever even gone near a Tesco, much less inside one. She’s the kind of rich prig who only shops at Waitrose or better.

>>46188633
Cyberlive was generous too. Let the talents keep their models if they left. Colossally stupid, but generous.

>>46202540
From what I’ve read about Cyberlive, they did that because with how shitty the corpo was run, it was the only way they could get people to join.
Maybe it was actually the reverse, that the corpo lost so much of its leverage and potential sources of income that it was no longer able to do any of the things that a corpo is supposed to do.

>>46202540
That's because the chuubas themselves were ones fucking managing the company at the end of it

>>46188272
What are you talking all corporations give you a model and a manager. Holo gives you a salary, Niji either used to provide that or started recently one or the other. Holo gives you a budget for events, setup living expenses, depending on the circumstances will pay for your dance lessons as well even getting you into the celebrity studios that stars and idols use for privacy. They all give legal counsel if you want it. Only idol provides games but if you’re in japan you can use the studio consoles or pc/laptops with games on them. Idol does offer asmr equipment nobody does that except maybe the avtuber agencies don’t know much about them. If there claims are true though unlimited games, free replacements for any technology given and software that would make them more generous than any corporation. I doubt it’s true unless tax fraud, garnished wages, cuts that makes nijisanji look like a charity or money laundering because that’s tens of thousands per talent on debut and then whatever spent in there existence. The donothon wouldn’t even cover what’s been spent on some of them already and most of that money went to the talents. There’s no reason to quit idol unless you get an offer from hololive yet they’ve had 3 graduations something isn’t adding up.

>>46202042
The slavery thing was from a random guy in the chat that popped up when she was talking about oppressive japanese work culture. Kson was a miserable wageslave before vtubing and most of her chat still currently is and she talks about that subject all the time. She was saying that culture is not something that foreigners should idolize because it sucks and everyone in japan hates it. Not sure how this board managed to twist that into "all holos are slaves" but that's the /vt/sisters for you.

>>46203751
>Not sure how this board managed to twist that into "all holos are slaves"
See >>46190805, revisionistchama
>that's the /vt/sisters for you
sisterchama...

>>46203728
I can’t tell if you’re a threadreader or baiting.
>idol doesn’t provide *that* much more than the other corpos
You forgot the biggest part. Idol’s members get to design their own models. They’re not premade. I’d say that makes a huge fucking difference, given the numerous examples of people in both HoloJP and HoloEN who were clearly unhappy with their debut model.
>There’s no reason to quit idol unless you get an offer from hololive yet they’ve had 3 graduations something isn’t adding up.
How about the fact they were from the HE gen, which was made up solely of first-timers who had never done vtubing before, and then realized they’d have to stream in English (a language the HE members had varying levels of fluency in) and likely leech off the new EN gen in order to fix the damage from their debut?
Those graduations are a result of mistakes Idol did at the beginning. Mistakes that they clearly fixed with the EN gen.

>>46188655
>This bitch is still making good content
ftfy

>>46204157
>Those graduations are a result of mistakes Idol did at the beginning. Mistakes that they clearly fixed with the EN gen.
Fucking retard. This is how he got funds in the first place by scamming jewish government with metaverse bullshit.

>>46204044
>ur wrong
>*links post saying exactly what I said*
t-thanks

>>46188633
They're playing for market share with capital funding, most likely running at a loss. Standard venture/startup tactic at the moment.

>>46188028
based based based based..

>>46196090
Yeah, this is the main reason I want to leave the US...I feel so alienated, everyone's out for themselves chasing Mr shekelburgs crumbs

>>46204722
This is correct
>The secret? We're not profitable. In fact, over the past year, February was the only month we managed to see some profit. However, we immediately reinvested those earnings by hiring a team of over 15 video editors to further support our talents.
This is after they spammed several donothons btw.

>>46188271
It takes an hour to add a cut

>>46191372
Actual Japanese people thought it was reasonable while Western (Southeastern) fans of Japanese culture are pissing themselves in rage. Sounds about right.

>>46188028
Well, Rin says "GOOD agency" tho

>>46190805
This is actually kind of a bummer. The explanation of weeb alone is incredibly wrong but to apply all that to all overseas fans, while speaking in japanese to a japanese audience while claiming to want to "help overseas fans" feels pretty shitty. Hoping she was just a bit hasty because of the friends' she mentioned being affected (nyanners BF stream? calli? Mike's recent unicorn drama? Kanata MC stuff?) and it's not some kind of campaign.

>>46204157
>You forgot the biggest part. Idol’s members get to design their own models. They’re not premade. I’d say that makes a huge fucking difference, given the numerous examples of people in both HoloJP and HoloEN who were clearly unhappy with their debut model.
The vtubers being able to design their own model is a major selling point for Idol Corp. Hololive talents occasionally get stuck with a pre-made model they absolutely hate. That makes a huge difference on whether the vtuber likes their job.

>>46189718
More like Max0r
https://youtu.be/kO9HmhwGzXs

Kson is actually throwing shade at Nijisanji, the worst corpo with the worst treatment of its vtubers, comparing them to slavery, this is not long after gundou drama
She also criticized nijifans when she said fans are supposed to protect their oshi, not becoming antis overnight because of little thing, because that's nijiniggers behaviour

>>46190805
>These days you’re more likely to see people overseas saying it served her right and laughing about it.
I think that's only here. There's many people on the internet who aren't from Japan and they're very vocal about how Towa's situation was fucked up and outrageous. Plenty of people remember it and it's only natural for overseas people to see that retarded shit and call it out for being retarded.

I know some people like to pretend they're Japanese, but not everyone is like that.

>>46188028
she does corpo talk better than pippa, whos opinions are ruined by /here/ and the farms. i think its good to have a chuuba that genuinely talks about bts stuff

>>46194615
Literally what drama

>>46209505
yup, Nijiniggfags are the worst fan base

>>46214726
She made a quick short capitalizing on the latest kson rrat.

>>46215017
She made a video about a kinda related topic that that fits into her normal shorts style and has been a topic of conversation for a long time now. It also fit into her schedule and was probably made in advance.

>>46188028
She likes her job?

>>46215681
I'm glad you realize that she is a grifter

>>46188028
...isn't this common knowledge?
The corpos will have funding and connections to the industry.
What differ per agencies is how they handle their vtuber's projects(new outfit, songs, events, etc.).
Most agencies also take the same cut. Unless you have a shitty contract like Mirai Akari or Kizuna Ai.

>already has schizos
she finally made it

>>46188281
She basically had her mental break down about becoming irrelevant and leaned into what ever the most popular/recent drama any "friend" of hers was going through to try and milk views

What happened here

>>46204961
Where would you go? Its getting pretty shitty but I personally can't see myself being anywhere else let alone another country

>>46188028
Kson's rant was about incels getting uppity over vtubers collabing with males.

>>46204157
This.

>>46188028
Holy based.

>>46204961
I watch some youtuber staying in indonesia for 2 years only with 20k usd, he does a lot of fishing so normal people could be 15k for a year.