/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>thumbs down extension
lol and lmao

>>46171214
Kekson deflection thread

>>46171214
>damage
is that even a high amount of dislikes? isnt the threshold something like 2k? see the holoen yab streams and they have something like 2k

>>46171277
Keksons don't use deflection thread tactic. They hate Nijisisters

>dislike extension in 2023
roru
rumao even

>>46171236
>>46171317

How many more threads are you going to make about this shit troon? Weren't you the ones yelling to let the talents do what they want? Guess that only applies when it's about dickriding the 3view homoshits.

>>46171214
Honestly that sounds kinda spergy. She really shouldn't have let antis (like you) get to her.

>>46171214
nijimales collab when? nice to see hololive returning to its roots

>>46171351
Getting your information farmed for placebo numbers. KEK

>>46171214
What's that dislike number based on, the tiny minority that uses the extension for it?

>>46171214
>not even 1k
i'd say heimins are not that bad compared to some

>>46172143
It's extrapolated from the like to dislike ratio of the people who have the extension installed. So it's not an accurate number, just a prediction.

>>46172333
kek so it's not even real
OP is retarded for even using it

>>46172143
If that's true then there are at least a million people using it based on results for some other videos. Why it's almost as if the 'only people with the extension see each others' downvotes' rrat is a fabrication made up by shills.

>>46172412
>If that's true then there are at least a million people using it based on results for some other videos.
No, I asked what the number is based on; doesn't take a million users, just multiplying the extension dislikes based on total views.

>>46172333
So that means the actual number of dislikes is smaller, right? Because I have to imagine people who install this extension are more likely to dislike a video than the average youtube user.

>>46172727
>Because I have to imagine people who install this extension are more likely to dislike a video than the average youtube user.
That is a baseless assumption.

These threads always end up the same. It is always a fight about the extension. Those who don't use it are never going to understand how nice it is and will always justify not using it. And no matter what bait OP is going to use, it's always an easy out to not talk about the chuuba or drama to instead bitch about the extension. It's nice, but anons who refuse to use it are very loud and obnoxious about hating it. So threads like this are always a bust, but this is a bait thread, so I guess I don't care.

>>46172834
It's not nice it's completely useless

>>46172910
Case in point

>>46172834
they're literally made up numbers

>>46173058
>>46172929

>>46172834
>And no matter what bait OP is going to use, it's always an easy out to not talk about the chuuba or drama to instead bitch about the extension.
If there was any interest in talking about drama then OP can post something to start a discussion instead of the "I made them up" numbers. All the extension gives is an upper limit on the ratio of dislikes to likes because as >>46172727
pointed out, people who DL the extension are more likely to be the type of downvote (based on common sense gained from using the internet for more than 5 minutes)

If you actually read any of the comments, EOPchama, you'll find that most of the shitflinging is actually from fans who think she's being a little bitch about males.
It's one thing to NG male collabs, it's another to completely throw common courtesy out the window for your self-imposed ideals, especially in a competition setting.

>>46172834
This is also bait and probably OP

>>46172756
The assumption is logic and common sense. If you don't care about dislikes you don't install the extension.

>>46173126
Oh wow so it really is a case of "let the girls collab with who they want, unless it's not who I want"
Also
>fans
lol

>>46173116
I have made my points about the extension multiple times and more than once without anybody addressing anything I say every single time these threads come up. Why should I type out what I have to say about it again? Unless you actually want to discuss it in this retarded bait thread,
>>46173153
Sorry, but I was a new IP.

>>46172756
How is that baseless? Anyone who cares enough to use an extension like that is more active in using the dislike feature

>>46173196
>>46173297
Proof doko?

>>46173199
lots of them had memshi. don't know what else to tell you

>>46173328
Proof: You went out of your way to install an extension to see how much people hate a video. Likes are still shown, the extensions purpose is to give dislikers a number to feel vindicated.

>>46171214
but kanata sounded happy the entire stream?

>>46173424
>the extensions purpose is to give dislikers a number to feel vindicated.
Wrong. It's purpose is to restore a feature that got removed for no reason.

>>46173434
She felt liberated by finally playing a game with men on stream

>>46173126
This. Like why are you even there if you can't acknowledge 75% of the people there including the host and you are there to represent your company no less.

>>46172727
I installed this extension the day after youtube removed the dislikes, now and before that I barely dislike videos
paranoid fucks can talk all the shit about not being "the real numbers" but everytime the "fake number" is high there's a reason
outside drama videos and bad trailers that people dislike as a immediate response, videos that are simply bad/useless will have an relevant amount

>>46173199
You'd be surprised how vicious people can get about ユニコーン on the JP side.

>>46173199
Why the fuck did she join then? She can do what she wants but it's this is just fucking rude, and being rude is practically a crime in jap land. She should have just not fucking joined, would have saved everyone the headache.

>>46173587
Yeah, the numbers are not accurate but I think it's close and it gives you an idea of what people might think about the video, if you want more proofs just read the comment section.

Reminder that people who hate the extension would rather suck YouTube's cock and accept having no idea how many dislikes there are instead of a good estimate.
Oh no, if something's not perfect, I must never ever use it! What if a video had exactly 756 dislikes instead of 700 like thee extension reports??? The horror!

>>46173494
Which it fails to do.

>>46173424
>Likes are still shown, the extensions purpose is to give dislikers a number to feel vindicated.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kffacxfA7G4
>23 million likes
This justin bieber song must be really loved by everyone

>>46173671
Kanata lays out her ironclad rules to her manager from day 1.
Her manager promised her she didn't have to chat with anyone but her holo team.
Well it was technically true, but she was an exception.

>>46173749
9000 likes to 900 dislikes
kanata is hated by everyone!!

>>46172412
You're a fucking retard. YouTube is no longer providing dislike data in their payload. Whatever dislike information you get is basically imaginary because the amount of people using your spyware extension is minimal. The extension doesn't magically make YouTube provide dislikes in their payload.

actually it's about ethics in streaming

>>46173737
youtube was retarded for removing dislikes but replacing no data with made up data is just as bad

>>46173568
>>46173671
Watch streams and you'd know exactly the answer to that. Actually even threadreaders would know by now. Not sure what thst makes you but obviously not good faith.

My 4chan upvote extension says OP has 6 gorrilian upvotes.

>>46173929
You keep saying that term, but I don't think it means what you think it does. It's not "made up". It is used by real data and statistical extrapolation. This extension has a LOT of users, so there is a good sample size. While there may be some confounding factors in play, if you don't think this is enough people for the stats, you would hate to see how most studies are made.

>>46173850
Way to miss his point, retard.

>>46174079
his point was retarded.

>>46174128
If it was retarded, it should be easy to shit on, instead of deflecting to an unrelated point. It makes you look incapable of refuting it.

>>461739000
Not sure if making a twitter style snappy quip supporting the people harassing Kanata for her unicorn-friendly policy and attacking her fans, or saying that those people are on a moral crusade about her "problematic" perspective.

>>46173850
Did you see anyone saying Kanata is hated retard?
OP baitt hread is all about: despite Kanata's effort there still seething reimin among those 9k likes
but it's easier to say the extension is fake and there's no correlation for this male collab to have bigger fake dislikes right?
Bet if I look with my fake extension any prior stream on this weak and only THIS one minecraft collab will have a disproportional amount of fake dislikes

>>46174187
Strokechama?

>>46174219
autocorrect

ITT 80 IQ SEAniggers failing to understand statistics

>>46173948
Tell me then, unicorn tell me she didn't interact with male and she muted them on her stream, is this true ?

>>46174301
This

>>46174170
what if I told you there is a wiki article?
>besides the point
ok great talk

>>46174288
>phoneposting
dawg really. shiggy diggy.
>>46174314
Why are so many anons having strokes in this thread?

>>46174032
>Trust that my closed source dislike extension, out of the hundreds of dislike extensions that popped up after YouTube removed dislikes, has done their math correctly
No

>>46174384
Phoneposting and drunk

>>46172929
Thanks for proving us all these numbers are real. You fucking mongoloid

>>46174377
A wiki article about what??? What does your post have to do with what I had to say?

>>46171214
kson made it a lot worse

As a numberfag I don't understand if a thing is bad or good without my dislike ratio addon

>>46174418
Oh, I have. Just not in that post. I did here though: >>46174032

>>46174427
most disliked youtube videos

https://streamable.com/39ij7u

>>46174411
There is only one that people use. And now you're shifting goalposts. Basic statistics is simple, especially so when all it is needed for is knowing generally what proportion dislike a video on a fucking YouTube video.

>>46173737
No china, I won’t install your spyware for super sekrit boiz, I’m not heckin epic enough for that BASED extension.

>>46174524
Okay, but what does that have to do with either what that one anon said or what I said? I'm legitimately lost about the point you're trying to make.

>>46174444
QUADS CONFIRMS NUMBERFAGS ARE RETARDS

>>46174457
Those are not proof you fucking retard, that’s Star Trek techno mumble. No layman, CONCRETE EVIDENCE
These Chinese drone need a little update

9k > 900

https://twitter.com/Robin0022662415/status/1536333173675610113
Kanata after playing minecraft with a dude she's never met IRL

>>46174668
>that’s Star Trek techno mumble
So you're saying that basic knowledge about stats is too complicated for you?
>Those are not proof you fucking retard
Yes it is. It shows that the numbers are not random. They are actually reasonable.Just because you don't understand basic shit doesn't mean I need to bend over backwards to prove a point.

>>46174668
I'll piggyback this post. Let's say 10 million people are using this extension(its less). How many are confirmed watching vtubers? How many of those watching vtubers watched that stream? How many bothered to dislike? Before you use your super special awesome algo(which also should be made clear btw), you have to establish the baseline.

>>46174604
>>23 million likes
>This justin bieber song must be really loved by everyone
>So I need a fake number to understand that the song was actually hated by everyone
this is not retarded? ok Idc anymore

>>46174032
>This extension has a LOT of users, so there is a good sample size
how many is a lot? 100? 1,000,000? more? less?
how many of those with the extension use it regularly?
how many of those with the extension used it on that particular video?
you can't say that you have a large sample size when you don't know how many of those dislikes were those with the extension and how many were extrapolated
people keep saying the numbers are made up because they are. there is no scientific rigor in these dislike extensions and any similarity they have to the actual number of dislikes is coincidental at best because you have no way of knowing the actual number of dislikes. by all means take comfort in whatever numbers your black box of an extension gives you but don't pretend they have value

>>46174778
>trust me bro
Kill yourself useless sack of shit. At least we know you can’t back your shit faggot

>>46174778
Your a pedo, trust me bro, the way you write has been shown in multitude of studies to represent pedophilia, wait are you too stupid to know of this?

Sorry friend I won’t bend backward to provide you how profiling a pedo like you works.

That’s how you sound.

>>46174032
Anon the extension is only going to be used by people who click the dislike button and also want to see how many other people click it, so it's estimated numbers are based off of people who are already more likely to click the dislike button than not.

Why are americans like this?

>>46175021
Why are subhumans like you here?

>>46174840
>unironically posting xkcd
You pseudo-intellectual faggot should fuck off back to plebbit.

>>46175055
Because I'm american

>>46174835
You seem to be confused. That anon's point is that you and your kind would rather have no idea about what proportion of people dislike a video. And the number is not fake, as described here: >>46174032
>>46174875
I never said that, actually. You clearly aren't reading what I write.
>>46174840
Believe it or not, much of our scientific knowledge, when using stats, actually don't need that large of a sample size to be able to reach confidence level needed in most fields. While I do not know how many users there are, 1,000,000 is likely lower than what it actually is, but it would probably suffice if they had a diverse enough audience.
>>46174978
That's not what I said at all. I said that it uses real data with statistical extrapolation, which is what much of science uses. This is not unique here. This is actually how most data is used. You're lack of knowledge in it, doesn't mean what I'm saying is wrong.
>>46175003
While that is possible, I could argue it is also used by people who just want to see what others have to say about it regardless on if they would normally hit like or dislike. I find it hard to generalize your statement to tons of normal people

>>46175058
>Go BaCk :””((

Jesus you fucks are fragile for edglords

>>46174557
There's over 10 in the chrome store right now so obviously the percentage of people using each is going to fragment the data that they're farming out of you. And you're just guessing that they're doing the math and doing it correctly, because the extension is not open source. I get what you're trying to say but I'm not going to trust some flavor of the month extension that they've done anything correctly

>>46175114
Your lack of knowledge on profiling doesn’t change the fact your a pedo, got it.

>>46175114
>I could argue it is also used by people who just want to see what others have to say about it regardless on if they would normally hit like or dislike
People who aren't inclined to hit a like or dislike will just scroll down and read the comments, this extension is just going to be used by people who actually care about the number. Must people won't even know there is an extension for it.

>>46175114
estimating an unknown value is real to me damn it

>>46175120
So you aren't even denying it? Kill yourself.

>>46175251
If the value was known there would be no point in estimating it. Are you retarded?

>>46171214
It was all for nothing, you should have just not participated in the first place

>>46174187
>900 heimin
Or you know there are EOP from /here/ smonst those 900 that did not watch most of the stream

If this is the extent of the "damage" then she and anyone else who treated this seriously are pretty retarded.

>>46175161
You're strawmanning and refusal to make a coherent point does not change what I said. Seethe.
>>46175160
The extension we're referring to ITT is one specific one, not some other offshoots. I cannot claim how those others work since I never looked at them. And you are correct, I do not know how they calculate it. But assuming they use typical methods, it is not unreasonable to assume it is relatively accurate. I would rather assume they did it with normal methods, but if they didn't, then I would be wrong, yes.
>>46175194
The problem is that we're assuming we can guess why the average person would download it, which is hard to do. We both have our biases about it, so we tend to view people downloading it as fitting into our biases. Without data about it, like polls or surveys, it's hard to say. So I can't say you're wrong, but you can't say I am either.

>>46174187
>Every single dislike is from a fan
RUMAO

>there are retarded mutts still trusting that extension when channel owners have come out with actual dislike statistics showing just how much of a sham the "estimations" are

the west has fallen

>>46175304
>If the value was known there would be no point in estimating it.
YOU GOT IT THANK YOU

Shit like this is why most of Hololive are never invited to shit any more like the old days pre-2020.
They'd rather not deal with retarded fans and retarded red tape.

>>46175384
>The problem is that we're assuming we can guess why the average person would download it, which is hard to do.
It's not at all hard to do, the extension is used by people who want to see the dislike number, and most people don't give a shit about that or don't know there is an extension they can use for it. It is inherently skewed more to being used by people who actively care about and use the dislike button.

>>46175464
>Shit like this is why most of Hololive are never invited to shit any more like the old days pre-2020.
Good. If it involves males, there is no reason to invite anyone from hololive.

>>46175464
>166k views
>made up dislike number is 900
Shes not dealing with shit

>>46175114
>Believe it or not, much of our scientific knowledge, when using stats, actually don't need that large of a sample size to be able to reach confidence level needed in most fields
the problem here is we have no idea how big the sample size is. if the extension showed how many users watched, liked or disliked the video in question and it's method of extrapolating then it's data might have some value but, as i stated, it's a black box that spits out numbers and as others have stated it's a poisoned well because the numbers are based only on users of the extension and not on the audience in general

>>46171351
if you really wonder the dislike addon gives you "estimates", it isn't scraping those number from anywhere

>>46175464
And yet they are doing better than fucking ever. Weird huh? While the rest of the industry is collapsing under nonstop drama Hololive is thriving without the need to leech left and right from desperate fags who would kill their mother for some clout.

>>46175510
Please read the rest of what I said. By "hard to do", I mean it is hard to do because we both have clear biases about how we think the average user is. And those biases taint how we think about the extension. Unless there are ways of actually showing this is how people think, all we can do is speculate. I am not claiming by beliefs in how the average user acts who would download the extension is more correct than yours, but we clearly see differently, therefore, any further speculation about it from both of us will lead nowhere.
>>46175607
>we have no idea how big the sample size is
That is true. We can only speculate by how many reviews it has. I would say that judging by how many reviews it has (and remember, most people don't leave reviews), it is relatively big. But I cannot say how big, nor can I make this claim with full accuracy. Nor can I claim to know which statistical extrapolation method. So technically, you could be correct. But this doesn't mean you are correct at the same time. We just can't be sure, but I think it is likely, at least in my experience, that they are using decent extrapolation methods.
>>46175683
See >>46174032

>>46174430
Really comes off as sour grapes from her,

>>46175510
>most people don't give a shit about that
lmao, everybody gave a shit about the dislike metrics before youtube removed it, it was literally the common indicator of garbage tutorials and scams
any uncle Tom that doesn't even know there more websites than google, youtube and facebook cared about the dislikes when he searched how to fix his toaster
sure he don't know about extensions, but he sure wasn't happy he doesn't know if the toaster tutorial is worth his time or not

>>46171214
Nice approx. 10% like/dislike ratio, did you really install this extension with Chinese spyware, when you can just look up the average like/dislike ratio?

>>46175873
Nta, but the sample size that matters here isn't the number of people who have the extension, it's the number of people who have the extension and viewed the video. Without knowing that information it's impossible to make a judgement on whether or not the dislike ratio is accurate or not.

>>46176086
as long the dislike numbers feel disproportional it indicates the extension users had an reason to dislike it
despite what anons been saying "people that install it are prone to dislike things more", most people don't go around looking for videos they aren't interested
a random normie will not see a vtuber thumbnail and "oh yeah let me check this"

>>46176086
And this is the crux of the issue. It is very likely to be much more accurate with some kinds of videos than others. But with a large enough download base, generally, we can assume that it can be a proxy for the current YouTube userbase. But without knowing how many or makeup of the users, I cannot claim this to be true fully. I and others would rather believe it does, but others would rather believe it doesn't. Personally, since this isn't anything of actual use, like medical clinical studies for example, the barrier of trust doesn't need to be that high. I've have my uses for it, and it sucks that some anons write it off so easily.

>>46175384
Strawmaning? Mate you know nothing about profiling and it shows, not imma share these totally relevant information to authorities, can’t have a pedo like you running around.

>>46176252
Though in this case the video in question has been a beacon for antis for a week since it was announced

>>46176261
>barrier of trust doesn’t need to be that high

And this is why USA is getting fucked in these sector lmao.

>>46176428
ESL, learn English before responding to me again.

>>46175943
the population that cares enough to bother to look up and install an extension to bring dislikes back is inherent biased in favor of people who intend to dislike in first place

>>46176517
NTA, but we can't actually know that for sure. Please see >>46175384 (the third post I was responding to in that) and >>46175873 (the first post I was responding to in that)

>>46175873
>That is true. We can only speculate by how many reviews it has. I would say that judging by how many reviews it has (and remember, most people don't leave reviews), it is relatively big. But I cannot say how big, nor can I make this claim with full accuracy. Nor can I claim to know which statistical extrapolation method. So technically, you could be correct. But this doesn't mean you are correct at the same time. We just can't be sure, but I think it is likely, at least in my experience, that they are using decent extrapolation methods.
so essentially:
>we don't know the sample size but it's probably big
>we don't know the sample bias but it's probably fine
>we don't know the extrapolation methods but they're probably good
>we have no way of testing if our conclusions are even close to reality but they probably are
please just admit that these dislike extensions are a way for people to feel comfort in imaginary numbers

>>46177067
If this were about anything of importance, I would agree with you. But I'm willing to give it the benefit of the doubt since it's not something I need to have high confidence in. It's not "imaginary". It's based on real data and statistical extrapolation, but like you said, the info used is hidden from us. I just choose to believe it and so do some others. And you are free to believe that they are making it up or not using proper statistical methods and have a small sample size. With something as trivial as YouTube dislikes, I don't see why it needs to be such a big deal.

But I will say that I appreciate that you took the time to understand the point I was trying to say. And I will also say that I can understand why anons get so hostile about it, since the extension only comes up in shitty bait threads like this. I just wish shitty bait threads didn't cause anons to act so hostile about it sometimes.

Weird that beggars are attacking Kanata when Pekora and Chloe were also there.
Must be a coincidence

Kanatan was constantly looking straight at the floor at the common gathering area and had everyone but her teammates muted for the entire thing, she then left during the victory announcements. And even then she felt like apologizing to her members.
I gotta respect the work ethics of this tenshi.

>>46177750
Why didn't she just say no to the collab to begin with?

>>46175817
>rest of the industry
EOPchama... NijiEN and Vshojo are not "the rest of the industry"....

>>46171214
lol are you seriously pointing out the "dislike" number? In AD 2023?

>>46177750
Just seems like a worst of both worlds situation for unicorns and homobeggars.

>>46177526
Pekora and especially Chloe have never once denounced male collabs or males in general.
Kanata has.
Kanata had to make a before twitterspace calming her fans down, and an after mengen calming her fans down, do you really think it's beggars and not her fans when she needed both a before and after to appease them?

>>46177943
And I suppose the her fans are also the ones spamming threads with "total male victory" and "we won bitch"
Doesn't seem quite in character

>>46177526
Because neither Pekora nor Chloe made a declaration to their viewers that 'no male no collab EVER'.

>>46178031
4chan is an american website retard, nobody here watches JP, you're looking at drama baiters, you're one too

>>46178031
Yeah, Kanata made such a big deal about it because of what a bunch of shitposters on /vt/ said. You nailed it.

>>46177943
>made a twitterspace and a menshi calming her fans down after interacting with males
jesus its like mothering a bunch of manchildren

>>46178031
falseflagger bait, chumfriend.
regardless, anon is right. If you listen to the JP side of the spectrum at all, only Kanata is getting this kind of attention. No one except her comments are getting flooded with anything. Not even mild disappointment

>>46171214
this is way talents have weed out retardos and and gachis early in their career

>>46178031
Anon...I'm talking about the fans that matter, her JP fans, Kanata has like the least amount of EN fans in existence.
No shit the "people" in this shithole are going to fling shit over her crumbling. She likely doesn't even care about it happening /here/
Also if you're going to go by what happens /here/ then we've had multiple pekora threads already.
>>46113108
>>46103276

>>46174032
The extension filters for people who want to downvote things. It's bad data. It's like going to a salsa dancing club and saying "look, everyone loves salsa dancing"

>>46171214
She didn't have to agree to be part of that stream. Maybe her behavior is because she realized she fucked up. She needs to apologize.

>ugly bastard hypnosis NTR stream
>minecraft collabs with males
I'm worried about the direction HoloJP is going to

>>46177316
>With something as trivial as YouTube dislikes, I don't see why it needs to be such a big deal.
it's unsurprising, these days /vt/ makes everything into a big deal, but hostility has been trending upwards recently and it's definitely making things tenser than they need to be

>>46171277
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>>46172727
>>46173297
>>46175003
>>46178328
>The extension filters for people who want to downvote things.
There is no way this would get over 500 dislikes.

>>46171214
Poor Heimins... But I understand them, despite all the supposed "backlash" from her, she could have easily bail out or cancelled the stream. I don't buy the "she was tricked" excuse, when the rooster was shilled front view.
It's sad because Kanata was the face of anti-male collabing.

>>46177900
Because she's a menhera idiot. I'll believe the "I didn't know when I agreed" thing, but if she's going to be THAT fucking autistic about it, dropping out would've been the better choice, because they could give that placement to somebody who fucking wants to be there.
https://streamable.com/cs4bna
Seriously, she makes fucking AQUA look like a well-adjusted member of society in comparison.

>>46171214
Let's set aside you using a fake number or pretending that fake number is even significant. Then you have to take it a step further and assume the people disliking it are her fans and that they are specifically the fans disliking that she was in the stream and not that she wasn't more accomodating which is why you disliked it.

>>46171214
Damn, people really have to create holo yabs, because the company doesn't have enough yabs kek.

>>46171214
Which other fanbase is responsible for this psyop campaign?

>>46180864
>https://streamable.com/cs4bna
Total awareness of the unicorn situation. She needs a mod to her 2d model with the hair shaved off.

>>46180864
Chloe noticing Kanata in the back and running to her to keep her company was very cute and heart warming, i really enjoyed watching it,

>>46173196
not caring about dislikes doesn't mean not being an active user of the dislike button
for whatever reason

>joins an event with males
>goes way past the autism line to avoid any sort of interaction with them
I'd be a pretty happy unicorn if she was my oshi, what other chuuba would go that far?

>>46183219
Rushia.
Look how that turned out.

>>46183328
Turned out great

>>46183219
I'm mostly not sure why she joined. I guess she just wasn't smart enough to work out what was going to happen before it was way too late. What the event would be like, how her viewers would react, etc. That clip is extremely unicorn friendly: how a woman should act when confronted by the presence of males.

>>46183445
her manager offered her the chance to join a minecraft event without explaining further. she said "yes", because she assumed her personal manager would be acting in her best interests instead of trying to force homos on her audience (a foolish assumption in 2023). I doubt she'll make that mistake again.

>>46183552
I love kanataso

>>46171214
Pandering to Unicorns and then collabing with males continues to be a real loser of an idea. She should have never done that rant about stars. She looks like an idiot

the most convincing theory ive heard about this is that since towa was going on break they got kanata instead, the members make a lot more sense in selection then

>>46183219
And Peko did the exact opposite, fangirling hard for the male MC.
But conveniently all that negative energy gets diverted to Kanata, makes you think.

>>46183652
>She should have never done that rant about stars
seethe harder, homobeggar

>>46183706
I'm not the one seething. Her fans are. If you say to your fans "no males" then you should not collab with males. You disagree?

>>46183760
her fans are happy, it's all hideous chinese fujoshi melting down over this

>>46183783
Why would fujoshi be mad?

>>46183842
fujoshi, like you, demand that their males be acknowledged by other vtubers and their fans. kanata refusing to do so implies that there is an alternative option to being a cocksleeve, so they're furious.

>>46183678
Honestly, if anything, it kind of showed me how little nousagis in general actually cared about males.
If we're to make the most uncharitable assumption about her though, I'd say she was 'testing the waters', right before she smacks us with the one-two Niji male collab (Because I hardly believe she even knows the name of any Star)

>>46183972
Cold chicken proved she can get away with it.

>>46183971
Fujoshi want male on male action anon.
That's literally what fujos like. BL.

>>46184514
yeah, but they're still women so their homos need to be acknowledged as strong and cool by other women so they can feel like they've selected an advantageous mate

>>46171352
???
ESL or just retarded? How did you even get that from OP's post?

>>46172834
It's a shit extension and you are a retard for using it. There's a good reason everyone tells you to fuck off with it. You might as well write the numbers yourself.

>>46174457
Do you know what the word proof means anon? Or is that further ahead in your basic English course?

why are we praising someone for acting like a huge cunt? dumb bitch shouldn't have joined if she was just going to act like a toddler the whole time.

This shit seems so exhausting. Walking on eggshells to this extent and still getting dragged by the delusionals. Genuinely reminds me of the Twitter community.

>>46185413
Because she was put into a bad situation by management and she did her best not to betray her fans or to cause problems for the other girls in the event.
She was put into the ultimate no win situation and didn't actually mess up with either group, that is some seriously impressive tightrope walking. So props to her.

>>46185547
she should have pulled out of the event instead of acting like a bitch the whole time. it would have been easy to replace her.

>>46185547
She walked herself onto that "tightrope", anon.
She isn't a child, she's a grown ass woman who couldn't ask her manager what the event was or who'd be attending.

>>46174301
ITT western schizos trying to stir shit up with statistics

>>46185633
>homobegger this asspained an autist would rather sperg out than talk to males on stream

>>46183328
>Rushia is now disowning bicorns and telling unicorns she loves them the most
uhhhhhh
based

>>46185547
>[Notice] Due to unforeseen circumstances, Amane Kanata will not be participating in this event. (Insert Holo) has volunteered to take her place.
Wow, so hard.

>>46183972
Pekora has collabed with males plenty of times. All she cares about are numbers. If she could get numbers collabing with stars she would. But she can't. But remember the hypnotist?

>>46172834
The shit flinging around the extension should be reasoning enough on why not to make a thread around the imaginary number, and to not use the extension at all

>>46183971
Except Kanata did...she bent the knee to homo collabs. Fujos are happy. It's unicorns that are seething. They have no one left in jp they can say is pure

>>46185850
a few seconds of watching the stream already gives a large reason why Cover wouldn't want to do this

>>46185978
fujos are the only ones who believe this, and it isn't working out. everyone can tell you're the one pushing the drama while unicorns are just worried that it will bother kanata.

>>46185899
>plenty of times
I must have been living under a rock.
fucking when??

>>46185658
or she just wanted to do it regardless, it's minecraft afterall she loves that shit
Girls going forward with a action they know well what consequences the action will cause is commonplace

>>46185774
and kekson is telling nazuna unicorns to fuck off

>>46186328
what the fuck is wrong with her

this didnt need a thread

>>46176428
Retard kun, reread that statement again. He's saying the barrier of trust is not that high, meaning it's a fucking trivial app for a trivial cause and you don't need 5 sigma of accuracy.

>>46174032
so it's made up

>>46186328
She's always been a sociopath that doesn't understand others and forms nonsense opinions to spew out as advice. Everything from the Aqua Raft collab, to Shion chatter, to Suisei, to Rushia, to Kanata, its almost a flawless streak of nonsense.

1 termination.
2 soft retired.
1 outgrowing vtubing exclusively from her own efforts.

Out of the whole bunch that listened to her, Kanata is the only one who still streams regularly.

>>46186471
>what the fuck is wrong with her
With Kson? She knows she can't tell japanese people anything because they won't listen to her so she is instead using the "overseas bros" to do her dirty work. That is why her comments were in English.

>>46186775
>Suisei
Anon, Suisei is a giant success and she managed to do what Coco could never do: She made her own idol career following her own rules while Cover and their talents play catch up to her but unlike Coco she doesn't want to push the envelope of what is acceptable behavior either. Coco is an American and Suisei is Japanese, that is all the difference in the world.

>>46186087
Why not? If it's because of the statues, the hosts can either change it (given enough warning to do so) or they can leave it as Kanata, and say "yeah, we didn't have enough time to change it". There's no real reason that it HAS to be Kanata.

>kanata was seething and raging
wow pretty professional of her to not show any of that on stream

reddit rage over downdoots but even worse, downdoots you can only see with an extension that mean nothing and dont even hurt your visibility

desu honest I didn't see any seething heimin. The worst I saw was a tweet under her first apology tweet when it was announced. The poor heimin just said he would never be good enough for kanata so he hopes she finds happiness even if he is sad about it. It was kind of sweet in an utterly pathetic way

>>46171214
I downvote every minecraft or zoomershooter stream. Sorry

>>46171214
The only thing this is proof of is that people with the dislike extension are all homobeggars and redditors.

She shouldn't have joined it. It was her stupid mistake but it's not like her fans and the majority holo jp fans are chimping out. Only pathetic jealous dramaniggers are trying to push this nontroversy garbage as usual. As far as I've seen most of the chimps are usual deranged antis who don't even watch any vtuber/streamer, only read shitty internet news/matome sites. Like really stupid Apex/shooter retards.

>>46183678
>And Peko did the exact opposite, fangirling hard for the male MC
>But conveniently all that negative energy gets diverted to Kanata, makes you think.
It's literally all Nousagi tourists doing.
Just look at this thread
https://archive.palanq.win/vt/thread/46183891
All the Nousagi defense posters were posting a bunch of non-vtuber tourist images and deflecting to Miko.
I hate cucksagis so damn much, It's Pekora's fault for allowing this stream to begin with

>>46171214
You mean antis found an opportunity to attack her?

>>46183219
That manager needs to be fired for even putting her in that kind of position

>>46171214
I'm glad we can all establish that Kanata did this all to herself and the unicorns won.

Once a leech whore always a leech whore KWABOTY

>>46192002
This entire thread are Heicucks finally waking up and turning on her

Also 5ch's hatred of Kanata rose for good kek

>>46192408
>>46190932
Nice try faggot.

>>46192408
ok anti retard

>>46171214
>you へい民 are vicious damn lmao
>using dislike extension to prove your point
retard

>>46192581
>>46192598
Cope and read the room tyfyc Heicucks

>>46192002
Those retards couldn't even bother dislike bombing her other streams, while actual heimins had all the time in the world to express their opinion since they knew this stream was coming for over a week. This is how low effort this falseflagging attempt is.

Can't say I understand the point in trying to bait fans of a JP chuuba on the board where hardly anyone watches JP chuubas

>kanatas a lier
Yeah not surprising

>>46195899
>lier
rumao

>>46172756
Only people who care about disliking will download this extension.

Assuming 4M monthly users for this extension, randomly sampled from 2.6B monthly youtube users, approximately 16 of them would have voted on this video.
There are more than 100 times as many replies to this thread than there were dislikes in that sample for an estimated ratio of 9%

>>46171214
This extension is really not accurate lol. I got a youtube channel too and I also tried this extension. The dislikes this extension shows is always higher than what Youtube studio shows.

Using the extension is basically like being a fucking flat earther

>>46181660
I love the orca even more now

>>46198920
Kanata has even talked about the extension a month ago, tried it, checked one of her videos, it said she had 200 dislikes or something.
In reality, her video had 2 dislikes, which were more likely mobile misclicks than anything.

>>46192171
>That manager needs to be fired for even putting her in that kind of position
Kanata got rid of her manager because of it.
https://youtu.be/1awNheWKdUw?t=3495

>>46203205
I don't have her membership, but that would be incredibly based if true.

>>46203205
Her manager has been horrible for a long time now so this was probably just the breaking point for her. Hopefully she gets one that actually gives a fuck

>>46203916
>couldn't fucking do a stream talking about holofes because the manager needed permission from every individual cosplayer in her pictures or something
Yeah I feel sorry for the next holo who gets that one

>>46173568
Her manager misrepresented how the stream was going to work, but she couldn't back out after already agreeing.

>>46203205
Good and based. That situation clearly made her really uncomfortable and could have been avoided entirely of that manager wasn't terrible.

>>46175003
>>46178328
Yeah no shit, retard. They're still downvoting though. Dislikes that happen through an extension are still dislikes.

>>46207898
If even 1 person using the extension shows up and dislikes it, the extension backend now generates bogus data for the video.
There is no data the extension provides that is any reflection of reality except the imagined reality that gets generated when an extension-user goes to a video and dislikes it.

>>46172333
Do you have the sauce on that?

>>46181660
based stinker

>>46183552
Because that were more popular vtubers than her and was a good chance for leech.

>>46172727
Yes, the speed the dislikes come in at inflates the number as well, so the really motivated schizos that dislike a video within minutes/hours of it going up get weighted heavier.

>>46185684
Most of the youtubers that were in that event are more popular than Kanataso.

>>46209119
Here we have it, the person even rarer than the actual heimin or mega-unicorns: the guy who watches Japanese Youtubers.

>>46209119
is Kazu basically Minecraft-Hikakin?
Are any of the others popular?

>>46209369
They're like the equivalent of the dreamSMP cast.

>>46174554
Underrated post.

>>46209634
I know the name dream but don't know SMP, I guess its his friend-group / video-group?
That probably explains why the holo group was casually talking about Kazu on and off without any concern. Anyone popular enough gets a free pass since "everybody knows them".
Kanata, for example, has mentioned Hikakin quite a few times, sometimes from chat prompting and sometimes on her own, and obviously Pekora isn't concerned.

>>46203205
1 year member. It's not.
Managers are switching, but it's a holo policy thing where managers get switched around for some reason, don't really know why.
As always, she's getting the newbie ones.

Also to put some clarification in thsi god forasken thread with tons of bait shitposting,
Kanata joined the event when manager didn't explain enough.
If she backed out, she'd be regarded as difficult to work with and it would cut down on her opportunities in the future.
She went to calm heimin on twitter space to explain herself, and then explained more in the membership stream.
5ch have dedicated antis for holo in general so they latched onto it.
Thread-readers latched onto it.
Shitposters latched onto it.
There was like 1 super schizo heimin that kept saying shit.
And then, nothing of note happened.

>>46210078
They rotate managers to train them in. Seasoned talents with new managers and seasoned managers with new talents generally.

>>46210078
Suspicious timing. I'm mostly disappointed because I can't use her when I'm baiting as a unicorn anymore. She was intentionally sabotaged after publicly declaring her unicorn friendliness. It's a hit job.

>>46210078
This isn't the 1-year anniversary of the manager or any notable time frame (halves, thirds, quarters, etc). It's been 5.2 months since this manager started overseeing Kanata.
Maybe some poor Gen 7 girl is going to get this shitshow of a manager after Kanata dumped her due to the holofes recap fuckup and the MC fuckup.

Luckily, Kanata didn't even try to drop out of the MC event, and it also played out just fine without any issues. All in all, a huge win for the circumstances, despite mane-chan trying to kneecap Kanata.

>>46210078
Thanks for the real update anon.
One question from me tho, was the kson weeb rant related to Kanata or nah?
Did Kanata mention her at all in mengen?

>>46174187
lets proceed on the assumption that any of that gay shit isnt just some stupid crap you made up in your head. why is anyone on planet earth supposed to give a fuck

>>46212111
Who do we even have to use as banner for unicorns anymore? It feels like every holo has suddenly completely shifted against unicorns and have interacted with males this year even the ones we were sure would never do it...

>>46210003
SMP is short for survival multiplayer. that's essentially what hololive and every other group has for their minecraft server. westerners use the term as shorthand since there's dedicated pvp servers as well. And yeah, once you're popular enough, you get to skirt around a lot of the rules.

Hey heimins.

>>46216351
heimin won

homoloving manager fired
kanata stared at the floor instead of disgusting males
kanata still SUPER cute

Had no idea Kanata's open stance on homo collabs cut such a deep wound in homobeggars ego.
It's weirdly satisfying watching them flail their arms around in anger and fear as they beg you to seethe.

>>46220521
towass...

>Big collab event with males
>other members also getting big dislikes
>Kanata's other recent streams has few dislikes compared to this
>Op making drama out of nothing because of a clip he saw about her.
When will the antis know their place and just kys?

>>46218974
>kanata stared at the floor instead
Holy shit

>>46171214
Kanaleech

wow

>>46181660
too wholesome for a stinker

>>46171214
>>46183552
>>46204695
All she did was come off as shitty and unprofessional.

>>46210078
>but it's a holo policy thing where managers get switched around for some reason
It's not a forced thing though. Watame has had the same one for years.

>>46190932
Thanks for the input, Nijifag.

>>46181660
>>46218974
The same delusional person

>>46178911
Sure it would. That's a stream/video with massive traffic.

>>46232258
That's why the almost-unbelievable fuckup got her manager fired within a week.

>>46214177
It would have been much more likely kson was referring to Nazuna based on the timing, since she had to deal with a unicorn/anti-unicorn war within her own fanbase.

Unicorns live in a bubble that any male can pop.

>>46183552
>>46204695
>>46232730
What is this cope by Heimin? I already know you people were bitching about her management for over a year now, but you don't want to think about the fact that MAYBE Kanata is a menhera who cares too much about what her fans think and would do anything to live up to expectations.
What would an innocent and easily influenced girl do when she has unicorn fans? She would avoid all males at all costs. Free choice is an illusion, your anti-male expectations are pressuring her to do this.
You probably won't even read this to prevent severe mental damage to yourself.

>>46232905
Kanata keeps blowing bubbles nonstop for us

Odd that so many keep telling me that I (long time Heimin) am seething when I think everything went about as well as possible
I wonder why people would like about this

>>46232799
>since she had to deal with a unicorn/anti-unicorn war within her own fanbase.
Nazuna's biggest problem has been being forced to use Twitch by Vshojo for unknown reasons. Maybe her faggot fans should focus on pressuring her management to stop with the bullshit so she can grow again instead of retarded culture wars that have little to do with her?

>>46233090
Wow man I can't believe you've exposed me and Kanata like this, guess I'll just give up and watch HoloEN or something.

It's over.
The thread is over.
All heimin are watching HoloEN now instead of Kanata.
Pack it up and let's all head back to Global where no one understands Japanese.

>>46171214
Its wasnt enough for me to care, so I dont hate her anything. Though I have not been watching her recent streams since she finished Dark Souls.
All I know is that Kanata is pretty much the only Holo that actually knows and understand unicorn fans, so she probably just got forced into that collab or didnt know a male would be talking to them.
Have any japanese heimin been sending her hate? I honestly dont think its a big deal so I dont wanna see her getting punished for this.

>>46233523
There was enough that she needed a before twitspace to appease them, and an after menshi to appease them.

>>46233523
>Have any japanese heimin been sending her hate?
I know people claim the dislike apps are just imaginary numbers
But if they at least show you how many people who also have the app clicked dislike, her video got nuked compared to others.

>>46233523
Basically none, just a few guys who need to relax and legitimately take medication to do so, but that's always going to exist out of thousands and thousands of people.
99.9% were totally fine with how everything played out given that the situation existed and was going to happen.

>>46233285
Nobody is telling you to give up and stop watching Kanata except the shitposters, but maybe don't hide behind the "management bad" excuse to cover up your unicorn preferences.

>>46233523
>>46233690
nah she's known to egosa too much and takes shitposting too seriously so she assumes there's way more hate than there actually is
>>46233702
Kanata has used the dislike extension before and said it shows more dislikes than is actually there for her streams and videos.
https://youtu.be/VaH7d8LCcT8

>>46233820
I replied to you with a joke because you genuinely have no idea what you're talking about. It's nice that you're trying to protect her, but this isn't even remotely a case of "she's just doing it to appease her viewers", though she certainly does think about them ceaselessly and try to cater to them.

>>46171214
Kanata is a precious angel.

>>46234225
>this isn't even remotely a case of "she's just doing it to appease her viewers", though she certainly does think about them ceaselessly and try to cater to them
>she certainly does think about them ceaselessly and try to cater to them

>you genuinely have no idea what you're talking about
I'm sorry, but you need to be more rational about this. It looks like you know I'm stating facts, but you still deny what I'm saying. That's called an emotional response, and I'll let you figure that out yourself.

>>46234435
I'll beat my meat and sing a song while I'm thinking about it.

>>46233523
You sound like you don't watch many other Holos.

>>46171214
Her own fault. She tried to take advantage of the giga unicorns that abhor the presence of males by putting on an act just for the sake of getting more viewers and SC money. And then she acted like she was getting eye cancer from even looking at a male minecraft avatar in a children's game and heimins bought it.

>>46213485
holofes recal fuckup? I must have missed that

>>46235373
idk if you know this but Kanata is a giga unicorn herself and has had this stance since debut

Love the way all anons here are arguing about an extension when every fucking number you see on youtube itself is a load of shit
>Subscribers
2 days to process
>CCV
depends on how many have been shadowbanned on the day
>Views
can be added or taken away 2-3 weeks after the original post date
youtube numbers are just as fake as any extension

>>46235885
You know what! Fair point…

>>46235828
She's blowing everything out of proportion because she knows what side her bread is buttered on and with each controversy she overplays to stand out, she will gain more gachikoi followers (= more money)

>>46235885
What a retarded take
Youtube numbers being inaccurate doesn't make the fake dislike numbers from a third party extension any better

>>46236581
Or she’s just a retard menhera that cares way too much about what others think? Unless you think she’s been doing this since her debut she’s known for caring way too much about what “fans” think even when they are just shitposting.

>>46236581
>She's blowing everything out of proportion
And so is everyone else. That is WHY she panicked, because of the antis not the unicorns like this faggot >>46238074 is pushing as a narrative.

>>46238242
>>46238242
Ay don’t lump me in with unicorns idc about male collabs I just don’t like false stuff being said about my oshi

>>46238242
I think you misunderstood me. I never said it was unicorns. I put “fans” in quotes because they aren’t fans. It’s antis, falseflaggers, and drama obsessed dumbasses that are sending this hate.

>>46171214
unicorns are just like troons, they are fucking rabid, ravaged by mental illnesses and delusions, and won't hesitate to turn on you for the slightest mistake

>>46174032
Studies? You mean those retards that abuse statistics and get an ungodly number of people killed every year because of their abuse of data?
Oh, you mean those people?
You mean those people responsible for western illness because of their bullshit studies with flawed data?
Oh, you mean those people?

You're not exactly helping yourself there.
As the others said - this extension automatically attracts people more inclined to negative mentalities and clicking dislikes or downvotes or not interested, etc.
Literally going to the salsa club and saying everyone loves salsa as the other person said.
It's flawed data. Or to be more correct, it's like going to the salsa club and saying everyone likes music, so clearly they must love rap too, that's a musicks.

>>46171214
The stream was just a nothingburger, but you fags just couldn't shut the fuck up about it, latching on to it like a bunch of maggots. The unicorns and her regular fans just don't care and are just trying to have fun. Then we have subhumans coming into the thread and spamming.
>durr durr your oshi is a whore, look at me durr durr, stop having fun.
That's just the height of being pathetic. You fear the normalfags ruining your hobby but you're shitting it up yourself, this board is fucking cancer.

>>46171236
Does it work?

>>46240549
Your oshi is a whore. Unlike mine

>>46243230
No, it just guesses based on the ratio of dislikes from people who went out of their way to install an extension solely for disliking things
Every time someone points out how obviously retarded and useless this is, some idiot who uses it will write a 50,000 word cope essay about it (scroll up for an example)

i made this thread yesterday as a fucking bait shitpost
why does it have 300 replies

>>46171214
The reality is that she releases more covers than most of the rest of hololive, and she has good taste in music. She also has a history of choosing games I want to watch. Even her minecraft is more about doing something other than hours of placing blocks to make something from notes. Watame. Her unicorn stance is comforting because I know she's not going to show up with some random holostar and get drunk on stream. That isn't content I'm interested in. And she isn't going to do cringe flirting on twitter a la Kobo. If she wants to reinforce that by staring at the floor I have no problem with it.

>>46243700
>still not enough
keep your sluttiness in check, nigga

> still using the extension
> not even 1k

>>46171214
Not going to be a homobeggar, but I think the best course of action would've been to be courteous and participate normally while also not flirting or bantering with any of the males there.
Treat it completely like a business arrangement instead of being that one quiet autist that got invited to a party and stares at the wall for a few hours

>>46246932
>not flirting or bantering with any of the males there.
They didn't talk to anyone except the MC of the event. She dropped out of vc and stood in the corner when he came around for comments at the end.

>>46247989
That's such a rude thing to do
>hey how did you like the event
>NOPE.mp4
Like I get pandering to your unicorn base but holy shit

I'm glad Kanata is trying her hardest to reassure us heimin even though it's not necessary cause we know how she is but it seems like people are still mad, why does it matter if she's tuning out people in the event, I thought people before were saying Pekora was the leader of their team and thus was responsible for representing the girls in whatever opening or closing things were happening in?