/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>46165610
lmao ANOTHER wave? why would anyone apply here again?

Lol, even the replies on twitter are like “Huh… so soon?” And “Please take your time to screen your talents”

>>46165610
>Gamers wave probably coming very soon

Would anyone want to audition after what they did with Zaion and how they unperson those that graduated? You'd be better off trying for some indie corpo.

>>46165706
I mean, it's all for the better. They just have to keep fucking up for this branch to burn to the ground and for actual good streamers from it to go indie/somewhere better without being treated like a fucking outcast

>>46165706
The last 2 waves even mindbroke their own fans.
I never had any hope for the Gamer wave, so maybe we just have to deal with it and the next Wave gonna have good talents.
Like there's no way these small corpos find entertaining people and nijisanji doesn't.

>>46165610
Ah yes, because adding MORE dramaniggers into your branch will solve everything. It's hilarious seeing NijiEN burn to the ground as a result of acceleration.

>>46165865
+800% revenue year to year keep coping.

>>46165865
It looks like it's doing better than ever though?

>>46165610
NOTHING HAPPENED AT FLOPSOLEIL

>>46165610
They just suspended someone for talking about baseball and crucified another liver for stupid shit.
So now would be the perfect time to try and get more according to this company.

>>46165706
sayuokami had the shota bot all this time
>screen your talents
cope

>>46166096
>suspended
The last 4 suspended Nijisanji members quit or got terminated. Don't speak out to early

>>46166124
Oh yeah I forgot. It's an "indefinite suspension" too. Which is usually followed by termination.

>nijiinclusive
>kicks out the T of lbqt
nothing personnel kiddo

So much Holo cope already.

>>46166200
Getting out of Nijisanji fixed him. In his last karaoke he used his real voice. I got hard.

>>46165610
Hope, less alphabet people with mental retardation.

>>46166241
pomu said it's ok to lie in your application/interview

>>46166124
>The last 4 suspended Niji members
Gwelu wasn't terminated though

>>46166345
yet

>>46166345
Guess i got my facts wrong then. But point stands. Suspension can still end in termination

imagine finana being in management instead of a stremer
>ELIRA GASLIGHTED ME INTO THINKING SHE DIDNT KNOW ENNA OR MILLIE WAAAAH

safe to say they've practically given up on finding their Kobo now

>7 fucking gens
>Mean while Holo EN who started before Niji EN only has two.
If people think Nijisanji cares about the talents after this then I don't know what to say, It's just a pump dump to copy paste more shitty merch that people will buy and more profits goes to Riku and his 4 yachts.

>>46165610
another wave
another acceleration
another yab
nijinigs never learn...

>>46166457
Never understood why they require past streaming expirience.
Most of the current best vTubers had near to none.

>>46166457
they really lowered the bar lol...

Niji EN scouts are the worst in the industry. They have absolutely zero talent at finding gems, they rely solely on your current numbers. And no big names are gonna apply to 3viewsanji.

>>46165761
>indie corpo
oxy-chama....

>>46166615
Genuely feels like they just hope it ends up good.
It's why they needed this training programm

>>46166492
It's to justify nepotism hires

>>46166680
They can literally use anything to justify nepotism.
The real world just uses the term "he was better" to hire a friend
But yeah, maybe you are still right in that regard

I genuinely believe any smart prospective male hire has switched gears to auditioning for StarsEN instead. It seems like an overall better environment for them, rather than forsake their sanity for potential big china bucks.

Which means expect every male niji from this point onward to actually be gay lmao

>>46165610
Why would anyone even apply to NijiEN at this point?

>>46166249
>In his last karaoke he used his real voice. I got hard.
Well no shit, Yugo's a woman

>>46166016
is commerce merch sales? because it seems like that's the main money maker for them

>>46167284
Yeah. Voice packs and physical merch are commerce.

>no excitement
>no enthusiasm
>anons don't even give enough of a shit to shitpost
>Vox wannabe from the latest wave is a low 4view at best
Grim.

>>46165610
>3 months earlier than I predicted
I HATE THIS!!!!!!!!!

>>46167232
DID YOU HEAR IT?!
https://www.youtube.com/live/Igq-rJRRTlE?feature=share&t=2438
My husband is SOOOO cute.

>>46167338
ok and how do they have numbers for Q2 and Q3 2023, i'm not /biz/ but aren't we still in Q1 2023?

>>46167516
Anon...why is this being asked every thread.
Someone will answer that, i am too tired.

>>46166016
>livestreaming revenue has been the same basically since the start of the year
kek so they're just making more merch?

>>46167550
Because you keep posting Riku's yacht chart like it matters in any way to vtubers. Answer the questions if you're going to keep sucking Riku's golden cock.

>>46167448
I love your husband's(female) voice!
https://files.catbox.moe/r3otcw.mp3

>>46167516
Anycolor Financial years run from May to April. Q3 2023 is quarter 3 of the year ending April 2023.

>>46167634
I don't and it doesn't even have anything to do with nijisanji. That's just how this works.
It's called Fiscal year. Google it. Should be valueable knowledge.
>>46167657
ME TOO BRO

>>46165610
but where is holoen 3?

>>46167634
Without vtubers you can't make money. NijiEN is not flopping, it's making more money than ever while HoloEN has been extremely stagnant in comparison.

>>46165610
I have no idea why the fuck you'd even join NijiEN these days if you're a 3 view female indie. Nijisanji doesn't offer you anything because right now you're doomed to be a 3 view at best if you join and aren't a male.
Is Nijisanji going to hire a bunch of 2 views or worse?

>>46165610
god i hate the chinks so fucking much, they just won't learn

>>46167693
How do I generate value from that knowledge?

>>46167764
>you're doomed to be a 3 view at best if you join and aren't a male
Not even that, since the new males are 3 views or low 4 views at best.

>>46167682
thanks, seems weird but /biz/ shit never made sense to me

>double the number of posts compared to IPs
why are their dedicated doomshitters crying about a company they don't watch? what are they coping and seething about?

i thought they discarded the gamer wave cause no one good enough applied kek
>why add more 3 views
cause they get 50% of it all without putting in any effort into their talents except for 2 autistic quality voice packs

>>46166016
>look at how good our Q1, Q2 and Q3 2023 commerce revenue is!
Q1 2023 isn't even over yet? Why are you posting these """projections""" like it's some epic proof of overwhelming victory?

now they're going to do anything for views,SP and SUB.. mybe 2-3 more waves to come!

>>46167868
No one's asking why Niji would want to pump out more chubbas that they don't pay but take money from. We're asking why anyone who they would actually take, due to their solely numbers focused hiring, would want to apply to their pathetic numbers company.

>>46167814
There's a ton of value here, but the first one would be to understand how we are in fiscal year Q3 2023 despite it being Q1 2023
It will also help once you are working or paying taxes in a way

I legitimately wonder how anyone can keep up with Niji EN. Even the biggest neet on Earth couldn’t watch like half of them at this point.

>>46167841
>everyone is only allowed to post once per thread

>>46167853
What was this thread talking about again, i forgot

>They give up opening new branch
Omegakek

>>46167764
>Is Nijisanji going to hire a bunch of 2 views or worse
You say that like it's a bad thing but literally all the most beloved members they've hired have been 2 view borderline 3 view indies.

>>46167968
you didn't answer the question

>>46167972
i dunnoom mmmm boooobs

Wouldn’t it be wild if they actually hired people who match their models? Instead of “nah this wigger is perfect for this shota and this Latino Stacy is what we need for this depressed, gloomy looking ghost.”

>>46166457
amazing. so they've effectively gated out
>voice actors
>musicians
>artists
>anyone with an expertise on anything but streaming

>>46167927
watch their 20min debuts, filter to watch 2hour debuts, filter to watch for one week, filter to keep watching ez

>>46168033
anon, this isn't an anime.

>>46168033
They already have models and then just hire the biggest numbers of whoever applies(or their clique's friends), so that's never happening. It would require their scouts to exert some effort and skill in finding people who have talent and fit a character.

>>46168039
>wanting streamers that stream,know how to stream, and enjoy streaming
i can see how this may be a new idea to fans of other persuasions

>>46168033
Tbf Kyo is a twink. Noone expected that voice from his looks.

>>46168039
There's lots of people with skills in those areas that also stream nowadays though?

>>46168007
Releasing two JP women as EN was the best thing they ever did.

>>46168124
It is a new idea for Nijisanji.

>>46168039
while i agree we need more talents than gaming and singing, they dont want another yugo to fuck up first impressions and not know what to say and how to act on stream even months down the line. i genuinely think yugo's the reason for this as she wasnt a streamer but was very talented in other areas

>>46166615
Nah that's HoloEN. Remove Gura and entire branch is a complete joke. And Gura was hired on PL numbers.

>>46166466
You people are so fucking stupid. Niji is a streamer corp. They hire experienced streamers and 99% of them do far better after joining than before.

>>46167907
When the fuck will you retarded morons finally learn what a fiscal year is?

>>46166457
Nlg

>>46168292
well the thing is that I don't even think the yugo archetype is necessarily a bad one, she clearly had a lot to offer. but there were just too many hurdles to get over for yugo specifically. i could see it working out for someone else, it's not like NijiEN lacks people who have streaming talent, they can afford to experiment a little

>>46167764
Still better than other corpos
>Vshojo auditions are a scam
>getting into Hololive is as hard as getting into Harvard
>small corpos still a joke, Pippa is the only relevant member of one and there's a massive gap in subs and views between her and the rest of the company
>getting into NIji guarantees you at least 500-700 viewers and a decent amount of SC and subs (using Aia as the absolutely lowest bar and she was a 2view twitch streamer before joining)

What if they hired Sayu again but as a different liver? That would be funny, I think.

>>46168899
No chance because she was only fired due to being disliked by the clique. The clique isn't magically gonna like her again.

>>46165610
Another wave another firing for blood sacrifice
Acceleration

I am a poorfag that just got scammed by a rigger and I am too desperate to find connections and friendships that I want to apply. I always loved NijiJP, i like watching Selen and Pomu... I just want to live my idoru dream. How bad is it?

>>46168398
>This is what nijiniggers actually believe
RORU

>>46165610
>>46165724
Aren't they all "gamers waves"?

>>46169061
just because they game doesnt mean theyre good at it kek niji wants to bleed into the pro scene

>>46168742
Correction. Stars isn't as hard to get in as hololive.
Rin Penrose of idol corp is getting 6k subs a day atm. Her last 2 days gave her 15k each btw.

>>46165610
>for english speaking
>kotoka
>meloco
might as well say you only need jp average of english speaking level

>>46168899
Maybe in nijisanji jp

>>46168993
JUST. STREAM.
Get that experience. Learn to deal with scuff, technical difficulties and how to handle a stream on either platform.

Who will be booted next? Find out on the next episode of Nijinig Ball GamerZ!

Fucking what? They better do right this time or fuck them and all association, fuck the contract leecher, fuck clout gainer, fuck those attention seeker span, fuck business brand reputations

>>46166492
Makes sense since Niji isn't looking to cultivate talent, they just want something that's low investment and maintenance. Their entire strategy is built off of quantity, not quality anyways.

>>46165610
If true shouldnt the next wave that's coming soon be already graduated/on hiatus. Who are the candidates?

>>46169061
there is a difference between playing cheap horror games or the most recent kusoge, playing everything on easy because they want to finish the game as soon as possible and not bother with it or someone grinding ranks nonstop and do endurence streams.

>>46165659
more livers more printing money machines, why not?
overall profit is the most important in corp.

>>46166457
I don't get this honestly, if they want streamers and clearly have a view of what kind of streamer they want to apply, why don't they just actively talent scout? Are they that averse to doing work? Can their ego not handle making the approach? An eight hour shift sifting through 0-3views on Twitch on Youtube and you'll find a handful of maybes. This audition/application approach makes the most sense if they're saying "If you think you have potential and this is something you'd like to do, come to us and we'll mould you into what we want you to be." They're not saying that though, they're saying, "Be good enough, and we'll consider you. We're not interested in training you up."

>>46169683
They got one in Zaion and look how well that went, they are as incompetent as ever

>>46168993
You can buy a model for a few bucks. Ironmouse started with a non customized model and i follow an 3 viewer that said out right he just bought a random model he likes for 20 bucks because it beats shaving every day. If you make it big you can always have a redesign. There may be some pushback but most will stick with you.

>>46169445
Yeah that seemed to be the strategy, especially with the last 2 ways, but maybe they learned from it?

>>46169729
It just boggles me, what's the point of an AUDITION if they're not progressing these applications based on first impressions and basic compatibility checks, what's the point. It's like if the casting agent for a tv show looking for a breakout star wasn't interested in any headshots or audition tapes unless the applicant had 100 hours of footage of them acting to a wall.

>>46166016
When I look at these charts I genuinely find it hard to comprehend. NijiEN on its own makes as much at the moment in the last quarter as Cover or Anycolor as a whole company was making in most quarters a couple of years ago. How? Did they get that much better at making money in 2 years or what?

>>46169842
They're fudging the numbers.

>>46166016
Yes yes, make more money for the shareholders while the actual talents get nothing, just replace them with new ones after they burn out.

>>46169770
To add on to what that Anon said.
Not sure if you watched some of the bigger vTubers, since wanting to become a vTuber doesn't always mean watching them, but a lot of the bigger vTubers often just go down to png models.
This is mostly because their pc can't handle all the things at the same time, but also because people actually don't really mind.
A comissioned png model isn't that expensive to begin with and you can always upgrade.

>>46165610
Who would want to apply here after all the shit that's happened???

>>46169837
They probably only looked at her numbers, disregarded everything else and thought they could put her on a leash, not realizing they're doing something absolutely stupid: trying to cater to a global audience while forcing the talent to abide by draconian JP corpo rules

Y'all getting audition, must be trippy

>>46169842
How much merch is Luxiem selling to chinese women?

>>46166016
uh sure
just don't look at their annual projection numbers

>>46169257
Anonchama, I always stream even when I am sick sick, unless i am busy with art. (for money and stream, i draw all of the assets, emotes and other shit myself.)
>>46169770
>>46169890
I noticed that using a custom f2u l2d model brought me more viewers and followers a lot faster than being a pngchuba. I spent some time drawing the 2ld and being excited for the design, just for the rigger to turn out to be into a scammer.
I can always turn it into another PNGchuba, but it hurts. I guess I will keep being a pngchuba with a few tricks, gladly I know how to animate frame-by-frame... Life really seems to keep going down for me this year.

>>46165610
Go ahead and apply if you want to restrict your creative freedom and make less money than you would as an indie

Lol
Lmao

>>46165610
>shit another useless wave of chuuba that will probably do nothing but drag everyone down
no thanks. i've had enough of this shit.

>>46170155
Another advice a ton of chuubas do not understand btw: Stream for your current viewers.
If those are 5, 25, or 5k. Stream for them. I know growth is great and all, but it is your current viewers that allow you to stream basically. Maybe ask them about your current situation.

>>46170076
I'm not really sure what point you're trying to make with this? They always make conservative revenue predictions?

>>46167973
Who? Enna and Selen I know were 2views, but Pomu, Elira, Millie, and Rosemi were solidly 3view. Nobody likes Finana.

>>46165610
Gotta pump those numbers up with new toys man. Why are you complaining? That’s how nijisanji achieve global dominance

Nijifans aren't even bothered to talk about or speculating on the potential new livers ITT. This is funny.

>>46169204
That's not really on the company, she just hit the yt algo jackpot which you can do as an indie too like Miori did. The rest of her company is not that impressive, even the huge get they made in kyOresu is struggling

>>46170650
How are you supposed to speculate about who might debut from an audition that opened an hour ago?

>>46170650
To be completely honest I usually watch the new debut streams themselves but besides that I don't think I have watched a single full stream from any member newer than Ethyria despite watching Elira, Selen and Pomu all the time.

>>46170661
Riro fixed herself and is cute and funny. That's all that matters. But yeah idol corp is less about huge numbers and more about giving the talents the best support possible.
But who knows how far Rin will grow. Might boost the whole company.

>>46170795
i guess he means the gaymers wave

>>46165610
What is the point when recent waves are low 3view?

>>46171495
All the males from Iluna and Xsoleil are 4views except for Aster who is the biggest bust in the branch. Both the Xsoleil girls are 4views too. It's only the Iluna girls who are 3views and they switched to farming SCs instead of focusing on growing their audience.

>>46171495
It's just to cover the yabs. Hololive does this too. EN3/JP7 will only be released the moment someone graduates or a massive yab happens.

>>46171754
They already did two applications since Xsoleil debut anon, this is the third. If they just wanted to cover a yab they could just release someone from those auditions instead of this.

After everything the last 2 months, who in their right fucking mind would ever apply to Nijisanji En anymore? If you say the money and views, there are literally almost 2 views just in En and they have a fraction of Jp and it’ll only get worse. If you have any self worth and think you have the talent, apply for an smaller more reputable corpo or even take your chance with Cover. Actual black company.

>>46170155
Then why are you complaining?
Why doubting?
Just to let you know, Hololive is far more likely to look at your audition tWMX4Mape.

>>46169604
You mean sinking money into more people that will get 200 CCV?

>>46171868
Dunno I don't think I'd pass up an opportunity to work at the biggest vtuber group in the world because one girl couldn't follow the rules? 30 other members have had no problem doing it and they've done all sorts of out there shit. So seems like you really have to try to get fired.

>>46172044
Whatever you say Noor.

>>46165610
Next wave of disposables, incoming.
Living up to the name of the human wave attacks, or in this case, vtuber wave attacks.

>>46171868
assuming the cliques are that bad joining nijien is still worth it unless you are an indie with 450+ ccv, even better if you know nihongo so you can distance yourself from en clownfest if necessary
oil princes usually follows anywhere their oshi goes anyway

>>46171868
LMAO EN3 is not happening and smaller corps still get far worse numbers. Pippa is getting Niji tier numbers but rest of people in Idol and Phase are below Reimu.

NijiEN is extremely successful.

>>46171966
Even Aster doesn't average 200 CCV and he's a complete waste of space

>>46171748
Aia and Aster are their only real flops. Zai shitstorm turned out to be a nothingburger. Scarle and Hex make Vox tier SC numbers. NijiEN is still growing and drawing new people. Holo numberfags live in alternative reality.

>>46172118
Seriously though if 30 people have had no problem following the rules enough to remain employed I'm looking at that and thinking it's probably the one person who couldn't that was the issue. So unless I think it's going to be impossible for me to follow the rules I'd still apply.

Shouldn't you be on your new reddit board instead of here?

>>46171868
Not you faggot, of course, go apply to the company that hasn't hired any new female for 18 months but homos, go apply to those small companies where you're only allowed to collab with the cliques of other small companies and don't even have a chance to touch the "blue doritos" that you admire

>>46171748
>Both the Xsoleil girls are 4views too
You mean if you look at their raided peaks? The numberfag chart from early march shows one of them already averages 3view ccv and the other is sub 1500.

>>46165706
EOP always says this.

>>46171966
Even the shittiest talent can probably eventually recoup the cost of their start-off assets, and that's all that matters to NijiEN. They don't really offer much support to their EN talents and the talents front the money for practically everything they do, so it's like passive income that Niji just skims off the top.

>>46165706
those people have been saying that since OBSYDIA, I wonder if they are just bots from someone, who say the same shit every time

>>46173256
Kotoka gets occasional 3view streams but it's far from being her average.

>>46166112
you know damn well Shota was never the problem for management
that also was never used as leverage on their termination grudge list

>>46166492
nijiEN is barebones and newer talents get barely any training
So these motherfuckers can't be bothered to teach streaming
just look how much Noctyx had to help Yugo instead of management

>>46169510
In my opinion the Gamers audition flopped on their head
they asked too much and probably only received aster-tier applications
>apex
>barely talks
>toxic af

After the gamers audition they opened another audition and now today they opened another
So they ended 2 auditions without an wave spawning from it yet
I expect a mix of the best gamers candidates + normies/ESL JPs for the 8th wave

>>46173919
looking through the catalog the only place that uses playboard for numberfagging is the /NijiEN/ general
i'm sure there's a good reason for that

>>46174837
i'm not going to bother deleting and reposting, but i meant the archive not the catalog

>>46171966
the bottom of the barrel in nijiEN still turn a profit
after the model/rigging/debut song/ads cost, the livers can only generate money
Anycolor only pay salaries to staff, so every liver pretty much cost nothing to keep
also most of the time there's at least one on each wave that breakthrough and generate way more money than the rest making all the audition process worth for the company

>>46174395
I meant what the twitter randoms think management should have done as part of their screening

why did aster flop so hard?

>>46172118
>>46172564
that's literally it
People seem to forget most of nijiEN not only is /here/ but are also fucking degenerates
including alot of the ones that keep their stream PG-13

The difference between them and Zaion is that they need the job and can keep their degeneracy to their private discord
Countless times I have see members thinking twice before saying shit because they know what will get them in trouble and what not

>>46174837
Because playboard uses the last 15 streams
The one you are using is monthly so it only includes stream for the month. If you don't understand what the major flaw of doing that is you are the reason why numbers is a joke.

>>46175225
>and can keep their degeneracy to their private discord
Lol, lmao even.

>>46174837
Because I don't go to the numbernigger nijianti thread, but that data shows it's only taking 13 streams from the first two weeks of the month while playboard uses more recent stats. It depends on the type of streams she does obviously, as she is a low 4view and can drop to 3view depending on what she streams.

>>46166457
Seems reasonable for a gamer-specific wave, at least. Though they're still locking themselves out of the possibility of plucking aomeone from some game's leaderboards and finding a hidden talent without the baggage of past life recognition.

>>46165610
drama wave when?

>>46168452
>They hire experienced streamers and 99% of them do far better after joining than before.
>100% more than 1 is 2
Most Nijisanji talents are 3views at best, and only ever get high numbers with their initial 3D debut. It's massively idiotic to say they're doing far better after joining, because even if that's the case on a technicality, they're still doing poorly, and subjected to blatant favouritism.
>B-but obviously the best performing talents would get special treatment
And that's fair enough from a business standpoint, but the company still sucks if you're not one of their big money makers.

>>46175180
Gets angry too often to break the femboy illusion
Straight guy playing a femboy gay character.
Use to barely read chat/interact with them, but he's gotten better at that.

>>46166457
>Our first priority is what your streaming numbers are. Talent comes second.

>>46175912
>Most Nijisanji talents are 3views at best
When in reality, 3 views are minority in both NijiEN and NijiJP.
>It's massively idiotic to say they're doing far better after joining
Yeah, when 4 of all the experienced hired from New NijiJP performed better than before. Now name one(1) NijiEN that has a constantly worse number than they had before joining.
>but the company still sucks if you're not one of their big money makers.
I guess numberfags like you have never heard of names like Natsume or Akane.

>>46176066
All they want is people who know their way around OBS and setting up a stream on YouTube.

>>46176248
>Now name one(1) NijiEN that has a constantly worse number than they had before joining.
No. Read the whole sentence you quoted, faggot.

>>46176575
>n-no I don't mean most of them aren't doing better after joining, i-it's just not far better!
I love how you dodge all the other sentences in my post.
I accept your concession.

>>46169729
>Zaion
who?

As much as Aia gets shit on here it's still a massive improvement over her PL numbers. It's not a ticket to instant success like the blue dorito (rendered irrelevant by how fucking hard it is to get into hololive and the fact they haven't debuted new female talents in almost two years) but still a good deal.

>>46166466
they had 4 and the last one was ACCELERATED

Outta the way twitterbabies and dramamongers, I'm about to get this fucking bread

Captcha: 0AAKKK

>>46177282
Holo is the premium so of course it's harder to get in. If it wasn't a premium then people wouldn't hold it in such high regards. Sure you might not like every talent they have but one holo is still better than almost the entirety of nijien.
Doing rapid fire debuts like niji only increases the chances of having drama because each individual can be the one.
There is a reason why holo gets so much fan made content with an extremely creative and dedicated fanbase while niji rarely receives the same

Are we ignoring the amount of connections you get when joining Nijisanji (or any corpo) over indies (which is 0)?
Having connections is the most important part of the streaming world.
Even if you don't like the EN talent you're still connected to the other branches + their friends outside of Nijisanji.

>>46178190
Dunno I find HoloEN streamers so boring I never made it through a single one. They lose.by default to almost any NijiEN member.

>>46165610

>>46178875
>They lose.by default to almost any NijiEN member.

>>46165706
Don't holo and niji only hire talents who are already established vtubers/ecelebs?

hololive EN3 copium deflection thread

>>46179958
yikes!!?? isn't he on zaion camp??
please block him nijisanji!!

>>46180348
Iluna was the number wave, but Xsoleil they went back to hiring 2views with the ironic exception of Zaion.

>>46165610
Lmao WTF do they want to reach sub-300 view?

>>46181076
xsoleil still had a large follow count in their PLs

>>46180237
now post scarle

>>46181154

>>46173919
She really fell off after shitting on Zaion

>>46181114
No? Ver, Doppio, and Hex were all sub 6k follows on Twitch.

>>46181345
ver had like 100k on youtube though no?

>>46181114
When Kotoka's PL is literally too small to find, making her the only EN vtuber in major corpo that no one knows her PL?

>>46181384
can't find her PL, but Reimu said she's recognized Kotoka when they met irl, so she's probably some NND utaite

>>46181361
His EN channel had 5k subs and his KR channel had 50k subs. It's not really comparable to Iluna regardless

>>46165610
>Gamers wave probably coming very soon
Can't wait for more Apex streams.

>>46165610
wtf already

>>46165610
VSPO EN will clear them

I don't follow nijiEN, how long until they start canibalizing each other's growth like in JP?

Maybe I am stupid but why Nijien releases a lot of waves in a short time span,like
they are rolling the wave gacha until they get a Gura?
they think quantity> quality?
or what,it is
I just do not get it

>>46169842
Better sponsorships, richer investors, completely different business model that focus on streaming (that's cheap) instead of expensive 3d lives, 2.5x more streamers covering much wider demographic, not wasting money on dumb projects like metaverse crap.

>>46180237
>le numbarz!

Also MCU is the best movie franchise ever, Twilight is the best book ever written and McDonald is the best restaurant in the world.

And the funniest part is that despite all the holo numberfagging, graphs and internet experts writing essays on how Hololive makes more money hard facts and revenue reports show Niji being far ahead somehow.

>>46169870
t. communist

>>46165706
Based Zaion speedrunning her niji carreer to teach nijifans a lesson

>>46165706
zaion's incredibly mismanaged termination created a chilling effect

>>46166615
Sure it is, thats why Kotoka Past life is very big.. oh wait she's not known to this day!

>>46166615
Lazulight, Obsydia, and Luxiem they did well.

>>46187447
>>46186906
they hav been saying that since vox and the like

I'm going to apply so I can fuck Petra in the offcollabs, later losers.

>>46178190
>one holo is still better than almost the entirety of nijien
in what regard? numbers? cause in talent there's not much difference
both still play the same shit, do zatsus, watchalongs and the like

>>46170661
On the other hand Rin is doing much better than Miori or Nene. The other two got most of their viewership on karaokes or ASMRs. Rin is getting comparable viewership right now on that silly Japanese politeness video game that all vtubers play.

Lol no

>>46165761
Zaion was a comfortable mid to low 3-view who played gacha games. Her specific background caused a lot of tension with the usual corpo restrictions. Same with Yugo and his VA's music career. As long they hire literal whos or washed up internet celebrities who can clearly consider corpo streaming to be an upgrade, they should be fine. Also don't hire foreign Japanese women, since that seems to be a pattern with talking back to management kek.

>make $35k in superchats
>be 3 view
>/vt/ leaves you alone because they only look at CCV
brilliant

Maybe I am asking too much but I hope the gamer wave is not
I play apex I am a gamer

>>46168005
Conversations between two people usually result in more than 2 posts per anon. You'd know that if you, you know, engaged in conversation instead of shitposting wildly.

>>46185826
Because they are low maintenance, just make a stupid youtube channel and buy a model, the liver will pay it in due time, after that is all profit

>>46187689
Anal sex with Millie

>>46192158
is it even safe to fuck a flip raw in the ass?

>le numbarz!
>Also MCU is the best movie franchise ever, Twilight is the best book ever written and McDonald is the best restaurant in the world.
>And the funniest part is that despite all the holo numberfagging, graphs and internet experts writing essays on how Hololive makes more money hard facts and revenue reports show Niji being far ahead somehow.

man i just want some or A member play racing game often..

>>46169791
nope never, Niji has always been all about saturating the market with streamers, why would they change their strategy now? they did it with all the branches...

>>46169204
Getting into Holostars is going to be as hard as Hololive. 1st 2 gens are only testing the waters and future gens are going to be riddled with high requirements.

>>46178190
>one holo is still better than almost the entirety of nijien.
that's an opinion, not a fact

>>46185726
>canibalizing each other's growth like in JP?
lmao, nijijp has the less overlap fanbase in all Japanese corpo, if you want to see canibalization, look at hololive when they have multiple channel stream at one

Is this what desperity looks like?

>>46167103
The next Stars gen will have even bigger homos than Flayon. Without Chinese women to pander to, Holostars is going all in on pandering to rich code monkeys

I hope they do a Gamers wave cause I want to see how that turns out.

Do they just focus on Apex/Valorant/LoL or expand to more niche genres like fighters? Can they get actually legit players and if so how are they set up to compete regularly? Would they attempt to set up a proper esports team? There are interesting ideas there, and also the potential that it is someone who plays 50% valorant 50% genshin and isn't distinguishable from the rest.

>>46201505
>like fighters
doubt, pretty sure Rosemi been wanting Tekken 7 permission for like a year now.

>>46203279
Well there are other games, one of the new tempus streamed a handful a few weeks back. Weirdly Miko made SC6 a big thing for her and that's bamco too. So no idea why Tekken is such an issue, I can't remember any corpo streaming it.

I hope that guy I know doesn't get into NijiEN lol, he's a literal fucking anti-holo/anti-vshojo dramanig.

Do you guys think Nijisanji of all companies would hire 6 people who have good taste in video games for a wave? You think it's possible?

>>46168033
>>46168112
>be depressed, gloomy looking latina
>auditioned for ghost
Could have been me

>>46207700
I hope it isn't 6+ people that all play the same shit
Look at EN right now spamming fucking Fran Bow at the same time for some fucking reason
How the fuk do you have like 30 streamers and have less variety than other big corpos with fewer members

>>46203671
The Kemono friends coyote is a corpo, isn't she? She's like the only one I've seen whose been able to play.

>>46207700
forget 6, i'm sure both tribes will be impressed if they can even get 2 with good taste and variety for gamers gen
the gen after that? haha no

>>46167825
Usually it's because fiscal-year one starts from when the business is registered.

>>46207700
Everyone already expects the gamer wave to be a full on failure focused on garbage e-sports games

>>46165610
>another niji debut before EN3
really make you think

Why are they requiring streaming experience? Isn't it just an invitation to get doxxed?

>>46165610
>More EN homos than EN girls soon
The niji route, I see.

Would (You) still want to join NijiEN?
>gets doxxed immediately
>gets sent hate you hate daily
>has to bend over to the already formed cliques
>has to bend over to retarded japanese corp rules
>company throws you under the bus for the slighterst mistake
>doesn't even make much money unless you get lucky and/or go full coomer

>>46217714 (me)
Damn typo.
>gets sent hate daily*