/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

This thread will be better, I believe

>>46127846
cover would literally die overnight if they did

Only actual numbers past this point
Zhang gossipers not welcomed.
https://youtu.be/CHzeYR3ga0o

812 IPs last thread, impressive

Did Kson give an ETA for her "localized" rant?

* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY *
>54,460: Marine (Hololive)
>47,104: Nene (Hololive)
>37,951: Miko (Hololive)
>34,738: Pekora (Hololive)
>32,663: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>26,242: Koyori (Hololive)
>24,356: Toya (Nijisanji)
>21,465: Gura (Hololive)
>16,725: AZKi (Hololive)
>16,298: Yashiro (Nijisanji)
>13,985: Lauren (Nijisanji)
>13,801: Chihiro (Nijisanji)
>13,393: Koyori (Hololive)
>12,655: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>12,591: Patra (774 inc)
>12,408: Watame (Hololive)
>12,327: Botan (Hololive)
>11,691: Fauna (Hololive)
>11,470: Gwelu (Nijisanji)
>11,244: Ratna (Nijisanji)
>11,040: Mito (Nijisanji)
>10,470: Kanata (Hololive)

Kson is literally reading the thread right now, say something nice about her

>>46128770
tired of getting dunked on tatsucuck?

You now realized that all the Suibait was gone from last thread the moment Kson came up

>>46128811
>MARCH 2023 GOLDS
1) Nerumero (Indie) - 32,543 - Genshin gacha
2) Mio (Hololive) - 42,700 - Mahjong tournament
3) Gura (Hololive) - 67,405 - 3D showcase
4) Toya (Nijisanji) - 68,467 - Oekaki no Mori tournament
5) Miko (Hololive) - 138,977 - 3D birthday live
6) Marine (Hololive) - 39,525 - Minecraft w/Kanata
7) Miko (Hololive) - 42,738 - Soulcalibur 6
8) Pekora (Hololive) - 52,296 - Clubhouse 51 totsu
9) Subaru (Hololive) - 33,648 - Minecraft
10) Suisei (Hololive) - 45,471 - Micomet mocopi Switch Sports
11) Lamy (Hololive) - 44,322 - Clubhouse 51 w/Kanata, Chloe & Marine
12) Shion (Hololive) - 96,477 - 3D birthday live
13) Hal (Neo Porte) - 139,050 - VSaikyo 5 teams announcement
14) Pekora (Hololive) - 32,152 - Minecraft
15) Koyori (Hololive) - 106,097 - 3D birthday live
16) Subaru (Hololive) - 34,808 - SMOK One-Block Minecraft
17) Pekora (Hololive) - 34,863 - Slither.io
18) Hololive (Hololive) - 103,296 - Hololive 4th fes day 1 free part
19) Hololive (Hololive) - 95,002 - Hololive 4th fes day 2 free part
20) Pekora (Hololive) - 38,617 - Minecraft
21) Chiroru (Indie) - 97,523 - WBC semi-final watchalong
22) Suisei (Hololive) - 160,044 - 5th anniversary 3D live
23) Pekora (Hololive) - 52,542 - PekoMoona off-collab cooking
24) Aqua (Hololive) - 39,020 - Minecraft
25) Marine (Hololive) - 34,292 - Karaoke + announcement
26) Miko (Hololive) - 49,612 - Soulcalibur 6
27) Pekora (Hololive) - 49,236 - Minecraft
28) Marine (Hololive) - 54,460 - Holomen relationship updates

>PER COMPANY
24x: Hololive
2x: Indie
1x: Neo Porte, Nijisanji

>PER STREAMER
6x: Pekora
3x: Marine, Miko
2x: Hololive, Subaru, Suisei
1x: Aqua, Chiroru, Gura, Hal, Koyori, Lamy, Mio, Nerumero, Shion, Toya

>2023 GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
68x: Hololive
14x: Nijisanji
3x: Indie
1x: Neo Porte, VSPO

>PER STREAMER
26x: Pekora
8x: Marine
4x: Miko, Subaru, Toya
3x: Hololive, Mio, Suisei
2x: Koyori, Kuzuha, Lamy, Nerumero, Nijisanji, Okayu, Towa
1x: Aqua, Chiroru, Choco, Gaku, Gura, Hal, Himawari, Hinano, Ina, Kiara, Mito, Mori, Nozomi, Polka, Roco, Shion, Watame, Yashiro

>>46128843

>suddenly we don't like trashtalk

hellooooo...

>>46128786
Sugoii

>>46128897
SUITYAAAAAAAAAAAAAN

>>46128690
>Vtuber Lincoln
Kekson will lead the emancipation of the enslaved vtubers against the tyrannical grip of the oppressive unicorn viewers.

>>46128868
Suddenly the sound of someone slurping cock went away when you posted that

>>46128868
All numbers discussion gone too when Kson bait came up, numbers anons are literally all chinks.

Cute sora

Still upset First Army paved over Mel’s and Nene’s “gold contender” streams. It’s like, nothing is sacred anymore.

>>46128897
Ooh? iine ochiri sui-chan

>>46128961
>not hating both kson and the chinks for being retarded

>>46128966
Unironically gitgud

>>46128884
No complaining

this thread will be better

>>46128786

*FINAL EN TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN*

>3/28 DAILY TALLY
21,465: Gura (Hololive)
11,691: Fauna (Hololive)
8,408: Mysta (Nijisanji)
5,618: Axel (Holostars)


>EN GOLDS FOR MARCH 2023
1) Mori (Hololive) - 18,696 - Monopoly (w/ Amelia, Magni, Vesper)
2) Vox (Nijisanji) - 8,614 - Return Stream
3) Gura (Hololive) - 67,405 - 3D Showcase
4) Amelia (Hololive) - 39,353 - 3D Showcase
5) Hololive English (Hololive) - 57,045 - Myth 3D Collab
6) Fauna (Hololive) - 6,793 - Penumbra
7) Kiara (Hololive) - 24,018 - Myth Offcollab
8) Shu (Nijisanji) - 10,195 - Return Stream
9) Ina (Hololive) - 14,532 - Minecraft
10) Vox (Nijisanji) - 10,791 - Charity Stream
11) Pomu (Nijisanji) - 19,891 - Outfit Reveal
12) Kiara (Hololive) - 9,341 - Karaoke (w/ Towa)
13) IRyS (Hololive) - 8,742 - Minecraft
14) Kronii (Hololive) - 20,086 - Birthday Stream
15) Vox (Nijisanji) - 6,437 - Little Misfortune
16) Shu (Nijisanji) - 9,912 - NijiEN Boys Mario Kart
17) Baelz (Hololive) - 9,761 - Karaoke
18) Vox (Nijisanji) - 13,240 - Unarchived Karaoke
19) Ren (Nijisanji) - 12,746 - Unarchived Karaoke
20) Mumei (Hololive) - 8,205 - Post-Fes Zatsudan
21) Fauna (Hololive) - 12,942 - Birthday Countdown/Unarchived Karaoke
22) Fauna (Hololive) - 16,885 - Birthday Stream
23) Mori (Hololive) - 10,321 - Drinking Offcollab (w/ Lui & Chloe)
24) Shu (Nijisanji) - 7,540 - Valorant (w/ Astel & NijiEN)
25) Ina (Hololive) - 8,656 - Post-Fes Zatsudan
26) Gura (Hololive) - 23,054 - Minecraft
27) IRyS (Hololive) - 13,254 - Unarchived Karaoke
28) Gura (Hololive) - 21,465 - Minecraft

>PER COMPANY
19x: Hololive
9x: Nijisanji

>PER STREAMER
4x: Vox
3x: Fauna, Shu, Gura
2x: Kiara, Mori, Ina, IRyS
1x: Amelia, Hololive English, Pomu, Kronii, Baelz, Ren, Mumei

>POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)
35p: Fauna
27p: Vox
17p: Shu, IRyS
15p: Gura
14p: Baelz, Mori
13p: Kiara, Ina, Mysta
9p: Axel, Mumei
7p: Luca, Amelia
6p: Pomu, Ren
5p: Hololive English, Kronii
4p: Fulgur, Selen
3p: Uki
1p: Pippa, Elira, Rosemi, Nina

>>46129022

>>46128961
>Anons who post counter-arguments against Kson's ridiculous rant is a chink.

All of Kobo's songs that were released between Mantra Hujan and Overdose got mediocre views, one of them even failed to break 400k. So why did she suddenly get good music numbers?

>>46128961
>All numbers discussion gone
HE THINKS THE "NUMBERS THREAD" THREAD IS ABOUT NUMBERS

>>46129022
>2023 EN GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
58x: Hololive
27x: Nijisanji
2x: Holostars

>PER STREAMER
9x: Mori
7x: Amelia
6x: Baelz, Vox, Mumei, Fauna, Ina, IRyS
5x: Gura
3x: Mysta, Pomu, Kiara, Kronii, Shu
2x: Selen
1x: Ike, Flayon, Alban, Elira, Luxiem, Finana, Millie, Luca, Regis, Enna, Rosemi, Hololive English, Ren

>2023 POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)
76p: Fauna
59p: Ina
58p: Mumei
57: Mori
55p: IRyS
54p: Baelz
53p: Vox
50p: Amelia
37p: Mysta
31p: Kiara
25p: Gura
23p: Luca
22p: Kronii
17p: Shu, Selen
16p: Pomu
11p: Uki
10p: Axel
9p: Millie, Enna, Ike
8p: Finana
7p: Regis
6p: Elira, Rosemi, Ren
5p: Flayon, Alban, Luxiem, Hololive English
4p: Vesper, Fulgur
3p: Sonny, Hakka, Magni
1p: Meloco, Shinri, Gavis, Maria, Pippa, Nina

Our oshi doesn't stream on Tuesdays and her wife is on menhera break
Is IRyS the only one that's going to stream today?

>hololive allows me to live in a world where everything that kson says it's wrong
thank god

>>46129051
skill

>>46128961
you took the numbers meme far too serious

>>46129022
>35p: Fauna
FAUNA CAN'T BE CAUGHT ANYMORE
>MONTHLY GOLD WINNER FOR THE CRIPPLE TALLY!

WHEN I SAY "FAUNA" YOU SAY "KNEEL" (and kneel)

>FAUNA!
<KNEEL! (kneels)
>FAUNA!
<KNEEL! (kneels)
>FAUNA!
<KNEEL! (kneels)
>FAUNA!
<KNEEL! (kneels)
>FAUNA!
<KNEEL! (kneels)
>FAUNA!
<KNEEL! (kneels)
>FAUNA!
<KNEEL! (kneels)

>>46129084
Kronii with the surprise Holofes stream.

>>46129084
Rat but it's Persona.

>>46129106
First win?

>>46129106
reminder that azki hates fauna

>>46129222
Impossible.

>>46129106
>Gold winner
>Includes silver and bronze
Also 3dpd

imagine caring about kekson in 2023
not even vshoujo does

>>46129243
she hates fauna its the reason why she cut all those trees

>>46129140
>Kronii with the surprise Veseper collab stream.

>>46129106
>FAUNA CAN'T BE CAUGHT ANYMORE
Numbers in charge of numbers...

>>46129222
I just realized that AZKi has air vents too

>>46129106
You never saw posts like this when mumei farmed the cripple tally.

>>46129272
wonder if vshojojp will become relevant if and when mirai and pikamee debuts

>>46129021
pst
intern-kun complaining that this thread was botted due to the amount of "IPs" since this thread is always active, intern-kun in turn said that we had 700+ IPs as a matter of fact for being botted so that this thread would stay relevant

>>46129222
that innocent face is objectively unable to experience the feeling we call "anger" in any form.

>>46128811
>>46128872
Marine has an insane amount of bravery and a weird sense of openness when you think about it, to be able to do that stream format. Like I can totally understand that despite the fact that it's beautifully strong buff content numbers-wise, literally not a single other holo would ever do it. It's just way too touchy as a subject to talk about your relationships with every coworker in the company.

Part of it is that Marine gets to avoid being called a leech since she's the top dog, I guess. That avoids some of the problems. But I genuinely think you have to be the kind of almost-no-filter pseudo-exhibitionist that Marine is to not be trembling in your boots at the idea of a stream like that.

>>46129106
Fauna, I kneel!
>HATERS AND LOSERS BTFO!

>>46129106
Anon Gura returns already. We already whats gonna happen on april

>>46129313
who will catch her? on break milord?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>46129358
Rushia was bigger than Pikamee and she's a shitter in vshojo, so I doubt it.

can we vote out companies from the board?
more than 50% of vshoujo are currently flesh streamers and their threads only discuss rm stuff
I'm gonna say they are no longer a vtubers company

>>46129106
>le points system no one but cripple anon cares about

All that rant and she didn't even touch on anything relating to Pikamee at all

>>46129426
If Gura stream 4 more days she could get 35pts without problem. Well Aprill will be Gura tally again.

>>46129022
Gura streams Gura wins, is good to be back

>>46128843
You have absolutely ruined your legacy by joining those band of whores and yet you've managed to stomp it even further after your shenanigans today. As a former tatsunoko who have most of your merch, it's actually impressive to see your downfall. If the old Coco sees the current you, she will slap the shit outta you for being this arrogant and this out of touch.

>>46129484
because she's done leeching from pikamee

>>46128868
You finally realized most of the Nijinigger/schizo larps are VWhorejo subhumans doing psyops.

>>46129467
Motion overruled: VShojou is more entertaining than NijiEN, so they get to stay.

>>46129484
Because she doesn't actually care. The only thing she cares about is her image. Her essentially shitting on Nazuna's wishes and Kanata should be proof enough of that, but her not mentioning Pikamee at all is just the nail in the coffin.

>>46129515
anon-chama calendar reps....

>>46129419
On that note, NijiEN has declined so much that I don't think they can beat even a neutral Gura stream without either a big tournament or Ike (due to rarity) doing a karaoke. All other buffs are worn out.

>>46129467
I get that this is the most influential thread, but you’re at the wrong place buddy

>>46129022
That power gap though.

>>46129467
This isn’t IRC

>>46129539
>implying its not both nijinigs and vwhorejo
would not be surprised since theres a big overlap between the two fanbases

>>46129563
>he actually watches vshoujo, unironically

>>46129106
Saplings do realise that the queen is back right?

I wonder how awkward Kson's next conversation with mikeneko or Kanata is going to be

>>46129660
and I can fulfill my desires for cgdct

>>46129539
They're one and the same anon. Most of the fans of those 2 agencies are twittard leftist sjw

>>46129515
>Gura gold on March 32
I beleib

>>46129563
hear! hear! i got entertained even without even watching

>>46129575
What? Its march so the day goes until 35. Next month is the 33 anon since its a leap year

>attacks Holoshit and their fans right at the time they're experiencing their worst unrest since Coco-Taiwan with the IPO disaster
Apologize, /nasfaq/CHADS

>>46129728(me)
i fookin need my glasses

>>46129784
what went wrong with the IPO

Graduate kekson now.

>>46129784
I just know that this is a nijinigger somehow

>>46129456
A sub 3k stremer is actually pretty big for vshoujo, they can atleast complete with low tier holos

I guess NijiCN is getting a cripple freebie today.

>>46129784
Here I'll make some milkshake for our toast

>>46129814
You tell me. Not even 1 week.
Isn't it coincidental she indirectly mentioned the IPO making various Cover affiliated livers feel at massive unease?

Is Rin Penrose from jewish corp botting her subscribers?

>>46122914
love this idea, I think it would be really cool if someone did this every day
someone tell vstats to make it easy to track or something

>>46129908
>livers
see I told you its a nijinigger

>>46128962
Who? This is the numbers thread.

>>46129908
oh no no bros maybe they should sell another bikini stream

>>46129908
>livers

>>46129908
Meanwhile Anycolor

>>46129892
This shit isn't any less worse then pandering to unicorns

>>46129908
>be Cover
>sell a lot of shares to build a 3D studio
>lot sells for 1.5x the asking price
>laughs and start building said studio
>???
>DISASTER!
kek

>>46129911
no she just rode the gura algorithm with her shorts

>>46129928
Cut3 S0ra

>>46129951
Meanwhile Company A

>>46129911
Probably not, imo shes the best out of the EN jews, too bad shes a Mori and Tempiss lover

Reminder that hololive put vshojo as one of their main rivals in the financial report. So hololive is scared of vshojo and their potential .

>>46129814
Nothing if you’re financially literate. You have to account for the fact that the most deranged shitheads in this thread don’t even know how to count, so that’s a big ask for them.

>>46129943
kek show that to the investors
selling will reach peaks

>livers
you know you can say vtuber or vtubers right?
livers?
are you kidding me?

>>46129860
Possible that Bae raids Irys again, which could be enough to beat your average NijiEN stream without any buffs.

>>46129951
>all those revenue
>still sitting on their liquid assets instead of reinvesting
huh so the riku pump and dump thing might be real after all huh

How's the minecraft tournament?

>>46129405
No you have to actually be able to get along with everyone to do that without backlash. Like she is the one Holo that you would believe to not hate anyone in the company and no one hate her

>>46130011
Nijiniggers are brain damaged, please understand.

Oh it's the nijiniggers from the catalogue i guess they came here to collect their daily wages

>>46129991
vsho who?

>>46129982
Meanwhile, also Company A
>>46129995
Anycolor had a soaring first week. Cover is already fucking tanking and on track to go under dude.

>>46129918
It's a fun idea, but to do it right, you'd want to do immediately after the stream ends or +24 hours from each stream end time or something to make it more directly comparable. Just grabbing the numbers at midnight means it's only an amusing shitpost.

>>46129908
>livers

>>46129995
Anon we look at graphs all day we know that it's bad when they go down.

>>46129784

>>46130020
Unironically.

>>46130027
hololive mogged, kanata menhera, pekora direct speaking with males, laplus drooling for one of the males, Botan laughing, chloe cute

>>46130059
take it easy with all that cope anon

>>46129991
>Main
>#4
>Litral dogshit metrics
I think they were shitting on them

So is Anykara now only called Company A now?

>>46130059
Of course they need that page with all the shits going on, kek

>>46130066
>amusing shitpost.
wait wasn't that the objective of the likes tally? what's all this groundwork

>>46130059
those risks are just as true for anycolor

>>46129943
Let me call kekson, she'll be able to grind all the investors

>>46129814
>what went wrong
>exceeds target by 133% on the opening day
KEK

2 more weeks until Hololive dies right guys?

>>46129908
>tally

I wonder how easy it must be for the baiters if they just add liver in any posts talking about Hololive

>>46129784
>IPO disaster
???
Nijiniggers you okay? Or did the scary red percentages your don't understand frighten you?

>>46127641
Nah that's not the only complaint. Vshojo created that entire meme of crass vtubers who curse all the time and talk about their period shits or how they get cummed inside. HoloEN hs some girls that curse, but there's still the idea of being seiso where you have Fauna not cursing at all, and then IRyS, Mumei, and Gura trying to limit how much they curse. I think that's kind of the angle she was getting at with "docile"

What i learned from last thread is that Kson should take communication lessons, study more english/japanese slangs and that western fandom was a mistake, also vshojo was a mistake too
btw the ones shitting kanata and others threads were vshojofags

>>46129982
>worthless stat
>worthless stat
>worthless stat

LOL no wonder they dropped 25% already.

>>46130127
All tallies are an amusing shitpost, that's true, I guess I mean it would be a more respectably amusing shitpost with some groundwork.

>>46130125
Actual mob name

>>46130059
>Reputation risk due to inappropriate content in video content
Is this real or is this just some shitpost
would explain that post about tamakis rm supposedly ranting about her "job"

>>46130038
She’s like the older sister for a lot of Hololive members.

>>46129908
>Cover affiliated livers
WAHAHAHA

>>46130027
Last 30mnts of the tourny was action packed

>>46130144
Yeah, that’s Suisei’s planned graduation date.

>>46128843
idk i feel like she's shitting on people doing their best to entertain other people under corpo umbrella.
Even debuffson that this thread hates so much also said talent freedom isn't what you should expect when you signed into corpo at the first place. it's just common senses.

>>46129943
>Slaves
>>46130137
>Not a slave

>>46130179
>said the bootlicker of a company that dropped today

>>46130152
nijibronies...

>>46130157
that's what I did during Nene's birthday live today, lots of (you)s

>>46130152
TRADE VOLUME GOLD

>>46129911
There's no point in botting subs so no. It's just gain from shorts spam.

>>46130187
It's real and they are probably talking about politics and litral whore behaviour yeah that's bad

>>46130157
The easiest way is to pretend to be a sincere Nijisanji fan who wonders why no one talked about whatever random Niji event of the day is (Baseball, tournament, 3d whatever). Guarenteed 15+ replies.

>>46130059
>>46130072
The market has its ups and downs. A couple days isn’t enough to make grand pronouncements about success or failure.

>>46130027
3rd place for team. Chloe 3rd best player overall.

>>46130011
VTuber includes youtube so it hurts the feeling of some b2 sponsored anon

>>46130157
I mean only thing nijifags care about is shitting the thread

>>46130211
I'll sub if she grinds my dick

>>46130187
It's not really something new if you think about it

>>46130152
axis cbros, we are losing...

>>46130215

Gonna sleep now good luck dealing with those nijiniggers anons

What's the point of subcribers on youtube for a channels that mainly puts out streams? Nobody watches streams, may as well make 10-20mins videos with clickbait titles

>>46130310
zoom in nijinig

Stock results for yesterday
Market opens today in 5 hours.

>>46130215
That would explain why they’re trying to deflect to Cover.

>>46130207
Wait, QRD? I thought that was just a rrat, did something get leaked? I guess she's one of the unexpected JP graduations leakanon mentioned.

>>46130310
>1Y

>>46130180
for shitpost tallies you gotta hit the correct amount of work/payout, and likes "by the end of the stream" aren't even reliably trackable, waiting 24hrs require too much work.

>>46130327
What happened Nijibros?

>>46130325
>>46130349

See you when Cover is -50% in a year.

>>46130260
I kind of did not expect Chloe to actually be decent, she was practically carrying Laplus and Kanata around aka the 2 pvp dead weight of the group while PekoBotan engage in combats
I love seeing Holos being a team like this, Startend did not have a clear leader and the team is too small so it wasn’t satisfying

>>46129908
>Cover affiliated livers
They are called Holomen.

>>46130316
>What's the point of subcribers on youtube
first metric that a company uses for sponsorship

>>46130362
Like everything else they post to shit on the competition, they’re projecting.

>>46130132
No shit.
>>46130152
You do realize that green is good and red is bad?

>>46130381
KEK TOO AFRAID TO SEE THE RECLINE

>>46130348
yes, her april 1 outfit is loli graduation from school, she's younger than miko's middleschool model

>>46130316
Quick source of VODs, require less efforts too
I don’t think you understand how much more time is required to make an acceptable video that will catch people’s eye

>>46130380
Should vtuber companies do a big Minecraft tournament? You could field a lot of teams from Niji JP, ID, and EN, Holo ID/EN/JP, maybe a VSPO one, a few from small corpos ect.

>>46130187
You tell me why Kson overheard from a friend that she may be graduating in her rant

>>46130348
3 threads ago it got leaked by LaplusAnon. 3rd Live is a Farewell Tour tying into Blue Journey.

>>46130348

>>46130348
Yea one of the JP livers accidentally leaked it on stream, the VOD is deleted now but if you search for streamable links from threads half a day ago you might be able to find it.

>>46130453
Ok but who gonna host it? That is the biggest obstacle for any event

>>46130515
>people still post my shitpost
kek

>nijinigs still trying to make Suisei graduate
not happening anytime soon nijikeks

>>46130404
then why Cover's management doesn't enters the shorts meta? Hire an edit and posts 1 short per day.
Are they just dumb? They don't understand how the algo works?

>>46130515
Mental illness.

>>46130544
Marine is doing just that bro. She is balancing between streaming and shorts

>cover already made the money they wanted for the studio
>caring about the market past that
eh?
okay i guess...

>>46130544
>cover
>hire someone
lol

>>46130439
Every talent has a shit-ton of money. What's holding them from hiring an editor?

>>46130515
I think we can discredit anything Nene says after her performance last night.

>>46130544
>then why Cover's management doesn't enters the shorts meta?
they are, there has been a recent uptick in shorts but its more probably due to the fact that Neal is probably gonna roll the shorts pot thing soon

>>46130529
Miko

It should be mandatory for all streamers to have stayed at a real job for 1 year. People that have never had to work a honest job are always the one that have the dumbest takes. She even tried to speak for the west when she’s not the only indie or corpo to go from western country to japan. This is what happens when your only friends feed your ego from past glories.

>>46130536
Could be she just doesn't like the new restrictions seen>>46130059

>>46130595
They are not interested.

>>46130529
I'll take one for the team and do it, but I need to get compensated with Hoshikawa's body for one night and then all the Hologirls for each consecutive night

>>46130595
Every single short video edited would require the approval of upper management to post it, they are schizo about videos.

>>46130635
Shut up Pomu

>>46130595
Why? They can just stream and get both stream numbers and a VOD that generate views, or release musics
And even then edited video is not totally dead within Hololive, Watame did it, Marine did it and even Pekora

>>46130636
>new restrictions
i dont see any new restrictions there anon since those are the usual cover restrictions?

>>46130636
I could see that. Suisei has always fiercely guarded her independence. If she feels like she's being shackled she won't hesitate to go solo especially with all the new connections she's making.

>>46130544
https://youtube.com/shorts/DYqhfhVRrIY?feature=share

Are you guys pretending to be retard or what?

>>46130636
nothing has changed, anymore past that then you're just pulling stuff out of your ass

>>46130620
Anon she can barely handle a Hololive event let alone an event for every companies

>>46130595
edited video meta has been dead for a while in vtubers anon

>>46130693
bot post

>>46130693
back here again eh bot

>>46130695
>pretending

>>46130693
Really? That would be weird considering she recently sold her Suisei IP to cover If anything I could see her move up to a more managerial position in the agency in charge of vsingers

>>46130595
The fact that they would have to pay him. You save more money not spending it.

>>46130760
>>46130763
>No rebuttal
I accept your concession

>>46130688
>>46130700
See>>46130693
And with Kson's rant something definitely has changed with the IPO unveiling.

Regardless of the stock price the future of COVER is pretty iffy right. Why should anyone believe they're going to be the ones to make the "metaverse" happen when every other company who's tried (even ones with much more capital to work with like Facebook or whatever) has only been able to produce uninteresting embarrassing messes.

They're a great talent agency for livestreamers but like, all the resources they've been sinking into dumb flavour of the month tech garbage like that instead of things like studio infrastructure for their moneymakers suggests to me that they're not going to be able to take advantage of their currently strong position in the streaming market. Maybe I'm missing something but they don't seem to be interested in playing to their own strengths.

>>46130804
>well known nijinig concession sister is also the suisei graduate poster

>>46130578
And she's got the highest subscribers of JP, might be a factor.

>>46130795
Why are you responding to a bot?

>>46130740
>in vtubers
Among vtubers, not the overall mass of youtube.
vtubers are the ones in the niche, not the mainstream public. They need to play the game that the people wants to see on youtube(videos), not just spamming streams and hoping this will somehow reach the masses

>>46130823
Yeah ultimately they're never going to be able to afford anything if they keep blowing their load on shitty projects no one wants like Holoearth and their value keeps tanking day after day because of intense stagnation and now possible unrest as revealed by Kson. It won't end pretty for Cover/Hololive either way.

>>46130579
Sorry, Nijiniggers can only think of the benefits and wellbeing of their kamioshi, Riku. The golden yacht fleet must become a reality.

>>46130857
>Deflecting to Nijisanji
Rent free

>>46130869
it's called samefagging

>>46130578
>>46130865
a pioneer who should be taken as example.

>>46130823
>instead of things like studio infrastructure for their moneymakers
They're building the biggest digital mocap studio in Japan. That was the whole point of raising the funding. Right?

>>46130820
>Ksons rant
Anon ksons rant had more to do with Nyanners (especially with the whole slave to the audience bit which nyanners ranted a few years ago) getting flack by some people for trying to shift into fleshtuber territory
Even ironmouse was afraid of going full fleshtuber with connor because theres a ton of anti in the TT community

>>46130857
>n-no u
kwab, concession accepted. 2 EZ, go back home: >>>/lgbt/

>
I have been awoken from my slumber

I’m gonna miss her. Certainly one of the best to ever grace Cover’s stage.

>>46130620
>cries with the slightly criticism
yeah no

>>46130865
Her music number contribute more let’s be real
Multiple Holo have tried and shorts failed them, even Watame eventually let go of short to do video instead. Only Marine get some results with it

>>46130896
Go take care of your manwhore sis
he's tired having such disgusting fujo fanbase that he rather have multiple breaks instead

>>46130529
Towa

>>46130895
Proof that Riku has a yacht? Meanwhile Yagoo probably actually has a yacht that he spends all your money on. Sounds like projection.

>>46130927
The entire rant was directed at Kanata/Hololive you EOP retard

>>46130978
>Meanwhile [headcanon]

>>46130927
Maybe fleshtuhers should just fuck off and stop pretending to be vtubers?

>>46130544
Multiple members are at a million gura has 4 million subscribers, editors cost money that people don’t want to spend, they do shorts just not consistently and no corporation or indie compares to their subcount. Oh no the jews past 100k in 4-5 months that’s almost 1/5 are lowest vtuber she alone might reach that by the end of the year so much competition.

>>46130895
I'm Pomu

>>46130870
>mainstream
edited video meta died in the mainstream way longer than vtubers existed though? it was fucking killed and replaced by the old react meta.
the current meta in mainstream and probably in the foreseeable future is controlled drama

>>46130920
Yeah, it's a good move, although I think they've been quite late to do so.

>>46130970
You literally described Suisei kek

>>46130965
Shorts spamming might work better for ENs honestly, since that audience is obsessed with memes. A few of the ENs have done shorts, but not near enough to count as spam.

>>46130927
>theres a ton of anti in the TT community
very unfortunate, if only there had been a way to not become entangled with it in the first place
also if you think her blowing up right after the kanata stuff is a coincidence then you're even more retarded than she was for dumping that out in the first place

>>46131015
That would honestly be for the best

>>46131023
>>>/lgbt/

>>46130912
You short shills are retarded and didn’t even follow Hololive. This same time last year every Holo tried to dabble in shorts, but to the surprise of no one, the majority of them did not gain much from it, only Marine gained something and even back then it’s all hollow numbers. We all know her sub boost came from her song going viral and not shorts

>>46131040
Huh, I've never seen Suisei using any coomerbait thumbnails like that manwhore

>>46130663
Either a child that’s never had a job or a kson supporter. Go superchat a troon since you have to support things you don’t like

>>46131023
Ok, tranny.
https://impomu.com/

>>46130981
>The entire rant was directed at Kanata/Hololive you EOP retard
and it had the hint of the pink cat in it since pink cat had a drama with some of her audience a couple of days ago

>>46131052
Gura is a secret weapon for Holo shorts, but her creative process is too incompatible with Japanese corpo autismo.

>>46130981
Except it clearly wasn't. At least not Kanata. Because she would talk about Japanese, not overseas audience if that was a case.

>>46131015
Nah nah, need to ride the coattails of the rising popularity of vtubers

I can't believe Suisei getting 160k and shitting on the Baseball dude mindbroke this guy enough to spam here 16 hours a day.

>>46130981
>Kanata
If anything it was directed to Nazuna since she was addressing the overseas audience

>>46131030
What are you talking about, edited video is still the king of YouTube. There are even niche channels out there that get views on edited videos that put even the best Holo livestream VODs to shame.

>>46131169
It’s the bot, it scanned the thread, detect Suisei as the “hot topic” then modeled its shitpost using Suisei as the subject

>>46131040
I'll give you just the tip anon

>>46131131
From her stream
>Agency vtubers who obey their agency's orders without question
>I only know that things are very wrong
>Being an idol is not about obeying
>I understand how important money is for businesses
>Real Vtubers should all be obedient
>I can only say, that's seriously wrong!
Tell me how this is not about Hololive.

>>46130927
i think she should stop being friends with vshojo...

>>46128872
wtf nenecchi slipped...

>>46131040
>desperately looking for materials
>can't find any
I accept your concession

>>46129106
It was way more impressive when Mumei did it

>>46130066
You should ask the VOD tally guy who does their check 24 hours after the stream.

>>46131204
i feel like the majority of the users on this board are far too much out of touch with the youtube meta. Believing videos are no longer mainstream is such a braindead thought that only a badly coded ai could come up with

>>46131147
See>>46131192
>>46131251
It is 100% about Kanata/PJK and stop pretending it isn't.

Why are we still here? Vtubing is going to die in 5 years

>>46126764
Last one
https://youtu.be/ScVSeQ4UswY?t=2009
All English here, so you can check yourself -
> "It's the difference between following guidelines and being a slave" -chat
> Yes! That is so true.
> And being a slave is not the most beautiful part of Japanese culture, weebs.
> I'm trying to get rid of slavery, in this VTuber industry. I'm trying so hard to get rid of those slavery stuff.
> But if you guys are all into those slavery stuff, this industry is going to end in the next 5 years.
> Goodbye to y'all oshis, okay?
Despite the hyperbole, I think I get her thought process here. She's seeing the following -
> Chuubas like Akari telling her about the actual slave-like conditions in parts of the corpo chuuba industry
but she does not see the nuance, and seeing -
> fans are supporting corporate chuubas over indies
She incorrectly concludes that the fans are asking for the old 4 kings era style ultra-corporate "You can't even make your own content" type of chuubas.
She seriously needs to lurk for at least 6 months more before making shitposts like this.

https://youtu.be/ScVSeQ4UswY?t=2076
*Japanese again*
> People might think "who do you think you are?". But me, the person who doesn't mind no matter whatever is thrown at me, is the only person who could say this I think.
> "You might get flamed if you say stuff like this" - chat
> I'm not afraid of it at all! *laughs* I won't give a shit about the type of people who flame me over this.
https://youtu.be/ScVSeQ4UswY?t=2491
> "Whoever gets popular will naturally become 'correct'" - chat
> It's fine to believe that
> But this isn't a talk about popularity. It's about the psychology of the fans, and the people who create this type of world.
https://youtu.be/ScVSeQ4UswY?t=2644
> There's a lot of girls who talk about this stuff around me. Those girls don't have the 'right' to talk about such topics.
> So I asked them "is it fine if I say it?", and they said "sure", so I'm just here spreading some awareness about this issue.
No prizes for guessing who these were.

https://youtu.be/ScVSeQ4UswY?t=2717
> "Isn't it fine if the person themselves is satisfied with things?" - chat
> Yeah that's fine. But I only know people who are not satisfied.
kek either she's lying or Kanata has completely cut her off.
https://youtu.be/ScVSeQ4UswY?t=2790
> "Funny things are funny, cute things are cute" - chat
> Yeah yeah yeah, you're all free to like what you like, I've never been against that.
> But, if you heard the stream till now and thought that "eh? isn't Japanese culture being misinterpreted?", please have a close talk with the foreign viewers around you, and just let them know this is a thing.
https://youtu.be/ScVSeQ4UswY?t=3019
> Business-wise there's a lot of factors like "what sells" and stuff like that, which the VTubers are free to do on their own or with the help of the company.
> No one has the right to reject any of these methods.
> It's just that, there seems to be a method of "supporting" that tightens our necks.
*short rant about having to refer to people's SO's as "partners" nowadays instead of "boyfriend/girlfriend"*
https://youtu.be/ScVSeQ4UswY?t=3125
> Let's not make it hard for VTubers to breathe
> "Trained fans will even give their oshi child support funds." - chat
> That's too much training! *laughs* Well, that too, is Freedom.
What a place to end on...

>>46130327
Cover VCs are still dumping shares at 1500. Outsiders are selling Anycolor to buy into Cover.

>>46131204
Oh I thought you were talking about in terms of getting mainstream mindshare
>edited video is still the king of YouTube
not really the king of youtube vods will always be the algo which is why you get some channels with 1k subs andd 50-80m vods on one of the vids while getting 500-1k on the others

>>46131251
is hololive that oppressive at the first place? Their MO seems to be: just don't get into dramas.

https://c-eye.co.jp/eq/ipo-eq/66679
SAUDI INVESTORS RRAT ALIVE AND KICKING BROSSSS
BUY THE DIP BEFORE THEY GET IN
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>>46131391
Being told what to do period is oppressive to modern women.

>>46131391
Do you trust an EOP or someone who's in the fucking business?

>>46131281
I think youre the one who is out of touch with the current youtube meta anon, heavily edited vids dont have the same mainstream pull compared to in the past.
Why do you think a lot of the big youtubers have shifted from becoming content creators to brand ambassadors?

>>46131307
> I'm trying to get rid of slavery, in this VTuber industry. I'm trying so hard to get rid of those slavery stuff.
> But if you guys are all into those slavery stuff, this industry is going to end in the next 5 years.
> Goodbye to y'all oshis, okay?
messiah complex KEK. If you only watch corpo chuubas and don't support Vshojo aka no slavery, only talent freedom, vtubing will DIE!

HAHAHA IMAGINE.. like who tf she thinks she is?

>>46131391
No Talent Freedom

>>46131425

>IRyS finally ticks for the first time in a week
>Almost immediately culled
Fuck you Neal

>>46131412
I would trust someone in the buisness but considering its kson I really dont think her words have any weight especially after all the stuff she said in the past

>>46131391
i don't know anon, you tell me, is your job oppressive?

>>46130168
Kson is obviously right you act like a whore tell people you like it that’s true seiso. Sora following cover’s rules of no bashing politics, religion, or attacking people with her platform thats not seiso she’s just a corporate slave.

>>46131412
Who? Kson? Why the fuck would I trust a VShojo shill?

>>46131413
Literally WHO are you talking about? Mr. Beast? I follow a lot of content creators on youtube that regularly puts out 2 videos per week, roughly 30-60 minutes each and they all reach 1m-2m in a week

>neal already took away Irys' last tick
what the fuck is wrong with her channel

>>46131307
Sounds like a Trump speech

>>46131441

>>46130415
westernerchama...

>>46131251
>>46131299
>>I understand how important money is for businesses
>>Real Vtubers should all be obedient
>>I can only say, that's seriously wrong!
Kinda sound like Nazuna though especially after being unable to play the wizard game and skipping that minecraft thing with trash talk a few months ago
Also very curious that she had this rant a few days after Nazuna showered her gachis and unicorns with praise

>>46131412
>someone who backtracked, sold-out, and is disillusioned
ftfy

>>46131299
Retard. Large part of her rant is about OVERSEAS fanbase. If this was about Kanata, she would be speaking about jp audience.

>>46131517
See>>46131486
They're all theoretically corporate slaves.

>>46131391
Retards consider that oppressive. Also, a bunch of other assumptions about certain things being company mandated rather than personal preference are normally lumped in. Also, I wouldn’t be surprised if the Taiwan incident was used as an excuse to keep her on a tighter leash, so her personal experience might not be representative of the whole.

>>46131391
Considering that no one is graduating because of normal circumstances except for Sana, I would say they're as oppressive as your standard entertainment job.

>>46131406
what do you use to translate

>>46131553
Are you out of the loop on what happened with Kanata and why she's getting destroyed by antis atm?

>>46130027
3 hours is too much for this shit but it was ok, the speedrunners hogged the Dragon and were pretty much invincible. But the other teams fought for the second place.
>Red team actually lost to the holos
That was embarrassing

>>46131251
sounds like nijisanji, they are going into idol since last year and she has been poking them since forever
and why the fuck it sounds so ESL

>>46131406
you know what they say, hololive is well worth a salah!

>>46131412
>who's in the fucking business?
what business? the vtubing x IRL streaming business? I will never trust a double-dipper

>>46131558
>Overseas fanbase
Nope. Learn Japanese. She said all unicorns. It doesn't need a nationality. Cut the cope.

>>46131299
>Talks about kagai niki audience
>Kanata
anon...
theres only one vtuber who has a large KAGAI NIKI Unicorn fanbase and its her co-worker

This entire thread is just deflection from Pekora giggling like a schoolgirl last night.

>>46130823
You've got the missing something part right I guess

>>46131406
>―ANYCOLOR has a higher operating profit margin, but is that because the cover invested in the studio and metaverse?
>The difference in operating profit is due to the difference in the product mix of the goods. I will explain what we are because it is not beyond the realm of imagination. The goods we have been selling so far have focused on custom-made goods sold on anniversaries such as anniversaries and birthdays of celebrities, rather than developing goods like those sold by ANYCOLOR. rice field.

>As a background, I thought that such goods would return a large amount of profits to the talent and would lead to support for their activities. On the other hand, ANYCOLOR plans and sells a large amount of goods led by the company. If you actually visit our EC site, you will immediately notice that even if you try to buy something on our site, most of them are made-to-order products and there are not many things that are currently on sale. ANYCOLOR has a lot of things on sale right now, and I don't think there are many cases that are tied to the anniversaries of talents.

>We will also strengthen the development of commerce with the listing as an opportunity. For example, we would like to provide products that people who become fans at stores or on e-commerce sites can buy as soon as they become fans, while also taking inventory risks. In other words, we are currently losing opportunities, and as a result, we are behind in terms of profit margins.

What does tanigo-san means by this?

>>46131637
see
>>46131307
But, if you heard the stream till now and thought that "eh? isn't Japanese culture being misinterpreted?", please have a close talk with the foreign viewers around you, and just let them know this is a thing.

>>46131589
You do realize Blackrock would also apply here?
>>46131621
Are there any differences between Hololive and Nijisanji?

>>46131572
It definitely wasn't representative of the whole, she caused huge damage to the company and one example of tighter leash is she wasn't even allowed to touch Myth

>>46131589
the default browser translate in my phone

>>46131391
After that time Mio got suspended for a month and they needed to get permission for everything, they've been significantly more oppressive in terms of freedom to stream what they want.

Even separate to that Marine always mentions stuff that she'd never be allowed to do anymore because management would block her. Like even in today's stream she mentioned a few things that she used to do in collabs with other girls that would never be allowed now. It seems like they get more and more restrictive over time.

>>46131307
Thinking about it Kson the Eren yeager of vtubers.
>Fights for Freedom of vtubers no matter the cause
> Knows what life is like outside hololive wall garden
> Used to be a part of the organization and was a key member.
> Secretly like Kanata but got friendzone and moved away
> This video is her version of the rumbling to protect her friends.
>Saw the future industry of vtubers being gone in five years

>>46131299
I want to say it's about Kanata because it can't be anyone else but it still feels a little schizophrenic. The vtubers must be obedient and do what they're told for money bit would fit if it was something like Kanata wanting to keep being a unicorn but can't because management held her at gunpoint and told her to get in the minecart, but that's directly at odds with the anti-unicorn portion of the rant. I don't doubt Kanata was a major part of this but it feels more like she unloaded every bit of stress she had and it destroyed...whatever she was trying to say.
I GUESS she could be talking about the western audience, but if the context is hololive(and it is, Nazuna is not an option, she's in fucking vshojo they can do whatever the hell they want and she even publicly chose to tell the anti-unicorns to fuck off) then who in EN would even fit the bill?

>>46131640
The Holos all have a roughly 40% kaigai fanbase too you know.
>>46131661
Finally. The recline of Pekora is inevitable.

>>46130187
What do you think is inappropriate content? They’ve played hentai games, moaned on stream riding a vibrating plate, the asmrs are at a midpoint from avtubers, made fun of women, Twitter, phallic objects on the new Minecraft. Oh you think it’s probably the same things they’ve always avoided having an opinion on yea me to

>>46131663
do you think their metaverse product will be the one to actually succeed or something? How do you see that happening, what does success look like?

>>46131621
>sounds ESL
That's because her English is deteriorating.

>>46131667
Cope that he'll never experience revenue boom and that he'll be forced to outsource to overseas investors entirely whereas Nijisanji will be entirely Japanese as they stand.

>>46129484
God what a shitshow, she was the best person to come out and defend Pikamee during the heat of things but did almost jack shit. Even though it was a flawed attempt at least Pippa streamed Wizard game after Pika graduation was announced like sure it was a leech move but it's still more than fucking Kson ever did.

>>46131667
baseline store that isn't tied to birthdays/anniversaries ecc so that selected goods are available all year around, don't expect the same quality of the time-limited ones.

>>46131667
tldr
foreign merch warehouse

>>46131661
>very popular
Kinda funny that holos are the most popular group in there.

>>46131535
I wonder if that rrat about nijiniggers seething that IRyS "took Enna's spot" has any weight, and they keep mass-reporting IRyS the same way JP nijiniggers mass-report Suisei.

>>46131486

>>46131736
Qrd, which things did she mention?

>>46131667
kek, Yagoo is the anycolor merch poster

>>46131766
Mori kinda. More as person that could rant to her about HoloEN/Tempus situation.

Numbers?

>>46131766
Mori
>>46131805
Not a single person here believes it will succeed. It's something that should seriously be reconsidered entirely to save money from being lost.

>>46131808
no, that was the TL, ando probably Kson needs to expand her vocabulary, months ago she got a word that she didn't know in japanese

>>46131406
>―You have expanded into China in the past, but based on that experience, it is not a good idea to go to a simplified Chinese character area now, or there is ample possibility to go to a simplified or traditional Chinese character area as a cultural area
> It will grow. On the other hand, when it comes to expanding into mainland China, regulations are very strict, so we think it will be slightly subordinated in terms of profitability and priority
kek looks like we found the reason why b2 reversed its decision on that holo video that gained traction in b2

She’s been living in a house with no fridge and broke her dishwashing machine a week ago

>>46131667
generic merchs that are not tied to special events. You can see it now with that hololive friends plushie and amazon t-shirts. Those merchs are not to made to order but have a certain number of stocks.

>>46131667
Sterilization of merch, just like how Anycolor went through after going public.

>>46131893
Wrong thread, this is /drama/

>>46131754
No, here's how like she's like Eren Yeager.
>At some point was considered the GOAT
>Ended up becoming a parody of themselves

My Nene lewds...

>>46131893
Mumei ticking soon!

>>46129405
When you’re a genuine good person you don’t end up having problems with people. It’s good content and she doesn’t like keeping things from her chat, there’s nothing else to it. They literally have to ask the person to do any stream involving them whether they have to speak or not.

>>46131922
How are Pekora unicorns coping with the male voices?

>>46131860
just was about not doing songs like maribako because yabai

>>46131941
Post them anyway, she's never going to have a better chance so I'll take the silver

>>46131944
Damn straight.

>>46131922
Dishwashers are so fucking fragile, I hate them.

>>46131525
>Literally WHO are you talking about?
all the biggest youtubers
Sidemn, Mr. Beast, Paul bros, 100 thieves etc and even middle tier youtuber like the ace family shifted from edited videos to brand ambassadors

>>46131989
Nah, the Twinkle4you free part should be an easy gold.

>>46131893
Sweet Appetite 1M soon

>>46131805
NTA, but it's very easy to see how it could succeed if you switch your perception of
>HoloEarth metaverse = VR bullshits
into
>HoloEarth metaverse = Sandbox MMO
So far, all they've shown points to the latter. It'd be something like Craftopia (I'm not using Genshin here since I also have no idea whether they would bother inserting story elements heavily into it or not) with purchasable hats and the concert part will be something like ConnectLive that's been held for quite a lot of time in Project Sekai.

>>46131984
Didn't she just literally do maribako? Does that means that they got even more restrictive in just the last few months?

>>46131307
This reads like a cult speech.

>>46131667
The high volume merch Cover sells are limited-time event items which lowers the company's margin and makes for inconsistent revenue.
If you look at their income reports, Cover's net income margin went from 20% to 10% once they ramped up the merch. I wonder what % cut Cover even gets from the custom to-order birthday and event goods? Must be very low.