/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>46043768
Yes i once clicked on someone who had 1 view and instantly got greeted by her and got stuck in it for a good 2 hours because i was too embarrassed to leave, at least she was playing ck3 which was interesting to watch. Gave her some money after she went offline because i felt bad for being the only one there.

>>46043768
I've watched a few 0/literal1views, it's definitely awkward, you need to be able to hold conversations since you're probably going to be the only one in chat, and if your personalities don't work well together you will want to leave and leaving in the middle of the stream makes you feel like shit because seeing you appear made them so happy in the first place. With chuubas that have like 5 viewers the pressure to chat gets lifted a bit, but it can still be a very awkward experience since the other guys probably expect you to "join their community" (discord server with like 10 people). I've experienced the lowest lows of vtubing and do not recommend it to anyone who not completely set their mind on saving their 1view that just deserves recognition.

tldr don't watch 0views unless you have good social skills

>>46043768
I recently clicked on a stream that had 6 viewers out of curiosity since I had never seen the chuuba before but immediately chickened out and left when I saw the ccv. my socially anxiety goes through the roof for some reason

I feel awkward even with 2views. Sending a chat message knowing they'll definitely see it and read it out on stream gets me all anxious.

>>46044092
>>46044156
So I'm not the only one.
I'm subscribed to some 2 or 3 views but watching 0-1 view is a hurdle to me.

>>46044092
>>46044156
I'm subbed to someone who only gets 5 viewers on average, thankfully she doesn't greet me when I show up and her other viewers seem to be good enough conversationalists so I can just relax and enjoy the comfy stream without chatting and leave at my leisure.

You need to look like this

>>46043768
Literal 1views, yeah. If there are at least few other people in chat, it's fine (or at least you can get used to it).
Never experienced "greeted the moment you show up" thing, they'd have to stare at their viewer graph like retards to spot lurkers that fast.

>>46043768
Yes. I avoid them at all cost. It makes me feel so incredibly guilty just being there that there's no way I can enjoy anything anyway. Even 2views are pushing it, especially when the chat is completely dead.

>>46044429
There's actually a window you can open to see the usernames of everyone in chat, but it's kinda hidden on YouTube compared to Twitch so not everyone knows about it.

I genuinely think that low viewer numbers (sub 10-ish) shouldn't be displayed. Obviously the streamer should have access to real numbers, but obfuscating and replacing them with something like '<10' would help spergs such as ourselves (and discourage streamers self viewing/having friends on for discoverability).

>>46043768
Depends how long you watch for. If you keep going for years it starts to become like a chat among friends. Then they get some more viewers and you can open up the conversation.

>>46043768
i don't watch literal 1views, i feel awkward when i'm the only one there so i just join when there's more than 7 viewers

>>46044632
On YT it only shows people who posted in chat recently. So they can only spot you by increasing viewer count.
Twitch might be different.

>>46043768
>don't you think it's awkward to watch 1viewtubers?
a little

>go to stream with less than 3 viewers
>banter with the streamer
>tell them some jokes
>get them to open up a bit and get used to talking to stream
the interaction with all sorts of weird cunts who 1view makes things fun

>>46043768
The only streamers I watch with less then 50ccv are people I know IRL and I make sure to participate in chat and encourage participation in randoms.Sometimes I say things wrong on purpose to get others to correct me in chat.
But I'd never watch a random with CCV that low, it's way too awkward.

>>46043768
I watch a 1ccv SEA woman play jrpgs, she laughs at all of my retarded jokes. It's pretty cool.

>>46044156
what happens if you don't say anything and just awkwardly stare at each other until the stream ends

>used to watching a concert with at least 500 people in the audience
>"Hey let's try watching an indie show with 7 people in the audience"
>Doesn't want to make too much noise for the other 6, since it might be rude
>"A W K W A R D"
Streaming is a painful experience for anyone with little social or entertainment skills and no desire to improve them.
2views should make more YouTube videos instead of streaming.

There was a similar thread where an anon had existential crisis about this. He joined by accident being her first viewer ever in the months since she started. He watched and donated for a while then ended up helping her with streaming. I forgot what embarrassing thing happened but he stopped watching even though she told him he’s the only reason she can go on. Fast forward 3 months he tried to watch again and she was no longer streaming made him depressed that he might have been the cause of her quitting. Long story short you should probably avoid literal 1-2 views

>>46049745
>woman moment

>>46043768
No.
2view I've been supporting is getting ~150ccv recently. Sometimes. I miss the old days.

I click on and if i notice I’m the only viewer I try to click away as fast as possible before they notice me. It’s so fucking awkward feeling trapped there. Guy that I worked with when I was a socially awkward teen invited me to see his band play. First time going to see a local band play so I brought some friends along. Showed up only to find no one there except the band members drinking at the bar. They played a couple songs and then just started talking at us to request songs. We dipped as soon as some other people showed up. I like seeing local bands now but man that shit was rough

>1view might need help coming out of their shell with some conversation
>viewers too nervous to talk
This vicious cycle

>>46043768
Yeah, kind of. My social skills are completely fucked though, so there seems to be a correlation. Do not, ever, go to a 1view stream if you know you'll feel like shit for leaving after being noticed. I know I will, and I did.

It's a stream, not a fucking date.
Look at what you're typing.

>>46051319
Well, try doing it anon.
Stay for 10 minutes. Send us results.

I used to follow this 1view(on YT) on and off. One time I was watching a stream on my phone while driving. She had 6ccv. I got home and turned off my car. In the switch from mobile data to wifi she started crying and abruptly ended the stream.

There was this other 1view, also on YT, who was from a defunct corpo. I found her because of an ad. Absolutely gorgeous model but she didn't have the social skills to keep chat engaged. She stopped streaming a few months ago.

2view is where it's at though.

>>46051319
>It's a stream, not a fucking date.
>groomer.jpg

>>46043768
1views are either Japanese, men, have ugly models, or different cobinations of the three.
I want my grooming target to look good and speak my language. I know that's too much to ask, but it is what it is.

>>46043768
It's like joining someones private chat. Extremely awkward if you are an introvert.
But people start somewhere. Sora started with her knights and look what she acomplished.
Maybe the next 1view shitter you join will become big. Who knows.

>>46043768
Not really. I never interact with streamers or their chats. I just like to watch. If things get boring then I leave, completely guilt-free.

>>46043768
It's more like you went to someone's party but no one else is there and you feel bad leaving

>>46051780
What fucking guilt. You call people niggers and faggots all the time but leaving a 1view alone after you talked with them is too much?

>>46048201
Based engagement creator

>>46048201
>Sometimes I say things wrong on purpose to get others to correct me in chat
Mispronouncing things on purpose has been a staple of the Youtube game forever

not exactly vtubing but I did it once to a twitch streamer. If they weren't playing this specific game, I'd always be the only one watching. Got to the point where they only started playing that one game instead of expanding, which is fine.

Since I stuck around, I got access to being a mod and they started to grow a lot. At some point I couldnt keep up with constantly monitoring both discord and chat because of work, which led me to just leave all together without saying anything.

Watching is fine, but I don't think I have the energy anymore to babysit double digit viewers, both in and out of stream.

>>46043768
Lose your inhibitions, embrace the awkwardness of social interactions.

I don't mind getting greeted and chatting with the streamer if they have like 15-20 viewers and a couple other people are also chattibg, but yeah if you are the only one it can get very alward unless you "click" with them instantly

I have a confession to make. I tried streaming for a couple of months. Most streams were 0 to 3 CCV but my sub count and VOD views were slowly growing. Eventually I did get some one in chat who stayed and chatted the whole stream through. It was fine, and I was able to keep the conversation well enough. They even subscribed at the end of the stream. Then I streamed a few other games for holloween that did not go well and coupled with some other things gave me a menhera meltdown moment and I haven't streamed since. I feel bad for that guy... At least he said he was drunk so maybe he forgot abut that 0view he subbed to and never streamed again

>>46043768
that's why you have 5 accounts that are all just you

>>46043768
I actually purposefully avoid watching them live and just watch the vods afterwards. 2views are fine, but being the 4th person in chat is too much for me.
Worse if they have follower notifications on and they realise I'm there. Now I purposefully follow only when they are not streaming.

>>46055554
you can see a list of all the viewers currently watching

>>46047994

I kneel

>>46043768
Imagine having social anxiety so bad you cant stand to be in a chatroom unless there's at least a thousand people
imagine being so socially awkward you choose not to talk in case they say your name or try to talk to you
those are the vibes your post gives off, you were definitely bullied in high school and probably still deserve to be bullied for acting like such a pussy

Today i spent 4 hours watching a stream with about 20ccv and i'm pretty sure i was the only person who stayed the entire stream from beginning to end (or at least the only one who stayed chatting) and it was due to pure enjoyment, not feeling bad about leaving.
This range of ccv is my favourite because chat is slow enough that all your messages get read but not so slow that you are the only one there and feel bad leaving/not talking.
Watching <10ccv streamers does take way more balls, tho i have also had a lot of fun in some streams where the chat was basically me and 2 other people in cases where the streamer was doing something i also enjoy and know about like playing guitar

>>46044092
I know that feeling. Found a sub to a vtuber that I can't remember why. Watched and she was a 1 view, but purposely didn't say anything knowing she'll greet me. But would feel bad if I left so left the stream on.

>>46055554
I usually follow low viewcount chuubas at the end of the stream so they still get happy and i don't get bombarded with questions/greetings

>>46043768
Those chubas shouldn't even go live. They should start with videos if they are on youtube.
The only excuse is that they wish to use youtube as an archive of their gameplay or chuba training.

>>46049634
Kill yourself

>>46044251
The virgin big corpo mentally weak no-presence autist
vs
The 2view CHAD uninhibited interactor

>>46051593
Jesus Christ this looked better on my phone.

I'm happy for you guys that didn't use Mixer, it was genuine hell for those that lurked. People would have bots set up that would greet you 10 seconds after you started watching. You didn't need to have typed, just had to lurk. It would greet you by name and everything. I miss the site (hate Twitch) but I didn't miss any of that retarded shit.

so what I'm learning here is I should go trawling for 1views with definite female voices and GROOM

>>46043768
It's the exact opposite for me. Streams are good because you can interact with the streamer, what's the point of watching a live stream otherwise?

I once watched an 1view chuuba just because he was streaming Stellaris and that's not that popular of a game.
It was one of those dudes who stream with an female avatar. Not trying to hide it - no voice changer or anything.
There was one another viewer. Anyway, his audio quality was abhorrent and we started complaingin about it in the chat. There was some attempts to fix it but it went nowhere, so he ended the stream and said there'd be a new Stellaris stream after the audio was fixed - tomorrow.
Never checked back until now, but it appears the channel is still active - at least one month ago. The videos seem to be clocking single-digit views.

>>46060169
Oh god. I'd never do that. Setting up greeting bots I mean. I do my livestreams under the assumption they'll just be watched as vods so I frame my dialogue around that.
I always wonder what drew the lurker in. Was it the game? The title? The thumbnail? Everyone would have a different answer and you'd never know.

it does suck yea, but after you are a 1 to 5 view streamer for a few months you start to relate to them. Every streamer was there at one point unless you worked for a company.

I think numbers over 500 to 600 viewers is bad for chat. then it just becomes a blurrr. Some people dont 'care and are just there to watch but i mean that's youtube streaming style. On twitch ppl like having cool redeems set up so chat can mess with them and interact more. Some ppl do blow up on there tho as well but there are like 8 million streamers or something crazy like that on twitch right now. Youtube game streaming absolutely sucks unless you are already big youtuber. The algorithm is broken

I commented on a two view stream once and they reply saying my name and for some reason my autist brain can't take it

I'm a total social inept in real life but I don't have much trouble talking in chat to 1views or just leaving when I get bored.

I unironically think I have some grade of 'tism that allows me to filter out all the context that'd make more normal people spill their spaghetti.

>>46054712
Just don't mod actively nor visit the discord. There's this one 2view dude I've been watching for years that made me a mod out of the blue and I only ever use the privileges for anything other than handing out joke bans once in a blue moon, I don't even bother with muting chatbots fuck that noise lol.

Not really the same thing, but there's a smallish jp vtuber (usually below 100 viewers) I've been membered to for about a year and I said something in chat in a member stream for the first time recently. She immediately noticed and was all like "wow you've been a member so long but you never say anything are you just silently lurking all the time huh huh huh?"
I sent a very awkward message saying writing in japanese was hard and just disappeared back into the shadows

>>46055408
Youtube is absurdly shit for 0views, I subbed to an irl friend and I never ever got a notification of them going online nor would she ever show up on my home page while streaming.

Twitch would delay phone notifs by hours at a time but at least they will the streams will always show up on your sidebar and on the following tab.

>>46067193
>notification
Yeah YT's shit is fucked. There's times when I'll get alert someone responded to a comment 2 weeks after they made it.

If my username ever gets read out loud I leave the stream immediately.

>>46043768
No you fucking beta bitch. If I open a 1 view stream she better immediately catch my attention or I'm out.
Stop being such a fucking simp.

>>46051893
I think it's entirely natural to care more about the feelings of an aspiring streamer than the feelings of people who cut off the genitals of children or beat white people to death with a hammer to prove how tough they are.

>>46058859
This is a profoundly stupid remark. If they don't go live how the fuck are they expected to grow their fanbase?

>>46074455
Normal videos get way better distribution on Youtube then archived livestreams. Livestreaming without a fanbase is basically kneecapping yourself.

>>46074455
Nah I agree with the anon suggesting videos.
There are some 2view streamers I got to know because the algorithm shilled their vids to me.

>>46043768
Big corpo chuubas give numberfag brainrot. Small chuubas make you cherish them more.

>>46043768
How do you guys find 2view chuubas?

>>46074750
on twitch

>>46074546
Plus, the advantage of livestreaming is the ability to interact with the audience. It's pointless if they have no audience.

>>46043768
they're a supplier of a service that you chose to consume by watching them.
if you don't like a product you stop your consumption.
they don't need to change something about themselves to appeal to their one viewer, and viewers do not need to watch them if they don't have a desired appeal.
it's not that complex.

>>46067516
Based

>>46043768
No, I actually enjoy it. Sometimes I find 1views talking to themselves or speaking in plural with just one person in chat because I assume they are practicing, so giving them something to bounce off of makes me happy. Usually these people will remember me if I come back later, so it just feels very friendly.

groomer paradise.

>>46055105
This.
You won't know what would or could happen

>>46043768
Why would it be?

>>46043768
>Big corpos aside, don't you think it's awkward to watch 1viewtubers?
>Big corpos aside
What a weird start to the question.

>>46043768
You all should try having a tap with an AIchat open and express upfront that you are using it to chat with him/her, it does wonders to these situations.

>>46043768
just don't watch

>>46051319
Yeah, but if somehow they blow up and becoming famous, you can potentially get some clout by being one of the few viewers from the start and having a name for yourself
Think about the potential gain for that little effort

>>46043768
I like to find random 0 view chuubas and stay in their chat for a few minutes before saying "this sucks" and leaving.

>>46055854
anon, where do you think you are

>>46067043
i always get a gifted membership on this one 3view
i think she called out me out since i am at the 7 month membership but it's all gift membership kek

>>46043768
I watch quite a few 25 and under viewer streams and yeah, sometimes it gets a bit weird if they call you out when you're just trying to listen to them as background noise, but overall I don't find it bad.

There's literally a guy I've known for about 7 years now who usually gets ~3-5 streamers and I drop in there fairly frequently as the only person chatting. We'll make a few comments back and forth, but he's really good about reading when I am not there for chatting and will just talk about the game instead of trying to talk to the chat if they're not talking.

>>46097371
thanks for the reminder