/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

75% of Gura subs aren't Hololive fans and it's debatable that can even be called Chumbuds.

stay in your containment thread, numbertranny

>>45786344
The majority of Chumbuds are Normalfags, they don't give a shit about Hololive only Gura matters

Will chumbuds seethe if en3 drops a new cunny that overtakes gura in subs?

>3 replies, 3 posters
fucking nijinigger answering their own question, don't you have livers to send death threats to?

>>45786826
Here comes the 3rd world Holocriticism defense force. Get a life worthless loser

>>45786344
>Get a life worthless loser
>Posting in a catalog bait thread
baffling

>>45786344
Chumbuds doesn't understand that giving YouTube subs is free

>>45786344
>>45787264
>Samefagging your own post
ESL-chama...

>>45786344
most gura subs probably don't even know what hololive is

>>45787083
You post so rabidly, every time, every day, every thread, I bet you fill the catalog with trash as well.
Never brought me down to your level autistic fuck

>>45786344
lolicons dont like nonlolis

>>45786344
Council is an embarrassment that's holding back EN3 and no one is willing to pity sub or even bot them to 1 million.
StarsEN relaxed requirements of 100k will easily be fullfilled multiple times over before EN2 gets anywhere close.
Other language branches like JP and ID too.

>create anti-gosling generation
>be shocku when they underperform
Don't worry the next generation will immediately collab with tempus, getting rid of those pesky unicucks.

>>45786344
Maybe if Mumei tried to be more like Gura like people originally thought.
>>45786618
>>45786826
>>45787083
>>45787388
Speaking of samefagging btw.

>>45788456
Why'd you quote me when I pointed out the only actual samefag aka the guy making the exact same grammar error?

>>45788174
Hard to say but mumei is getting 30k subs a month so presumably she'll lap Kronii in about 2 months if she keeps that momentum. I think it's mostly Holofes related though. Unfortunate since she's too sick to stream.

>>45788681
Not exactly 30k but she does have the highest growth in EN right now

>>45786344
These failures away from 1M subs are the reason EN3 is not going to happen anywhere soon.
Tronii is particularly guilty for holding 1M subs hostage for debuffing herself time and time and time again despite having the kickstart, the Wada model and consistent views, she threw it all away because she hates Hololive, idol culture, she stopped streaming consistently, she stopped playing Minecraft, she collabed with the homos. Kronii ruined EN's momentum.

>>45788824
>Sana, A FUCKING CORPSE getting more subs than Kiara, Ina and Ame
THE ABSOLUTE FUCKING STATE OF EN

>>45789310
Anon they tick by 10k once you pass 1m. Unless they get 10k subs it won't update.

>>45789174
For unknown reasons "will you actually stream" was not part of the audition process.

>Kronii with 150k more than fucking Fauna
Model buff is insane.

>>45788824
This hurts. Multiple times.

>>45789453
Yeah, also so many big name artists make art of Kronii because it's a Wada design. And the outrageous thing is that Fauna's design really good. Goes to show how much of a buff is to have a big name mama.

>>45786344
Actually it's because when Gura was thriving, it was during the vtuber renaissance. It has obviously since died down a lot since then.

>>45790047
>Veiposter is the sanest person in the thread
I don't want to live in this world...

>>45789310
>being a retard
many such cases

>>45789453
>>45789973
You mean this model?

>>45790970
You should see how many people outside of here are gushing over that model.

>>45791086
Her model is shit from the shoulders down.
She was carried on debut by her voice and "dom mommy" expectations.

I only subscribe to cunny

>>45786344
Have you not seen how stupidly popular Gura is in Japan? A bunch of her subs probably don't even know a single word of English. They just subscribe to Gura because they like her but never watch her since they don't understand shit. If Gura knew even just a bit of Japanese her viewership would triple in an instant.

>>45789453
Even without the models, Kronii is just way more interesting than Fauna

>>45786344
Youtube hides our subs/views. Councils has 100s of thousands more subs.

>>45786344
>nooo the gap between the most subscribed youtuber ever and the other ones is too large
hang yourself

>>45786344
who cares? fauna gets more viewers than gura nowadays anyway

>>45790167
That’s not difficult when the other posters are parroting the “Cover won’t release a new gen until someone gets 1M subs” nonsense.

>>45786344
To put it simply Gura is
>the best EN memer
>the best EN dancer (as in 'the most idol-like girl')
>the best EN voice actor
>the best EN comedian
>the best EN singer, if not the best in Hololive
people say her weakest singing technique is belting, but even so she still mocks tons of good singers with it, no? https://vocaroo.com/1aPfjNL2rdc9
>a good-hearted girl https://litter.catbox.moe/ibr59o.png
>a CGDCT supporter
>anti-drama
>part of Myth
>cunny

>>45793453
The theory “Cover won't release a new generation until someone gets 1 million subscribers” is complete bullshit because if that were true Cover wouldn't want to create a concert with only HoloEN members.

>>45794025
Also the fact that ID3 came out before either Moona or Ollie reached the 1M mark. Or Holostars’ entire existence.

>>45793797
Gura is a meme singer, she always sings in a "cute girl monotone" and when she needs a high note she goes straight to falsetto.
she's definitely not the best dancer (that's Bae and Kiara's place), but she's good at voice acting (just not better than Kroni, who worked on it before)

>>45786344
You know how /hlgg/ treats anyone not in niji or vshoujo with a "who?"

Apply that to all Myth members.
Bae? Who?
Fauna? Who?
Kronii? Who?
Mumei? Who?

Surprise surprises, council numberfags reap what you sow.

Subs are a completely worthless metric because most of them don't even watch. Gura gets what, like 20k CCV? And her average VOD views range between 300k and 500k, with even her 3D showcase not even hitting 1 mil. More than 3/4 of Gura's subscriber base can't even be bothered to watch her 3D, and on average only 1/10 of her subs even watch her at all. The reason that her subs don't trickle down is because they're dead subs that may as well not even exist.

>>45786344
>don't understand why Chumbuds doesn't subscribe to Council?
>Don't they want EN 3 to debut soon?
???????????????
Kill yourself

>>45786547
Gura subs are etoddlers
Her actual fanbase is likely not much larger than the others in myth

>>45790970
Yes

Their extremely slow growth is depressing

>>45795712
Theres small corpos climbing faster than they are

>>45789310
>voice debuff
>doesn't stream
>tempiss collabs
You're a retard for thinking they are growing slower than Sana but is it really a surprise their sub growth flopped? Gura also doesn't stream but she is too big to fail now.

>>45794631
>shit coming straight from a strip club is the best dancer
opinion discarded

>>45789973
>how much of a buff is to have a big name mama
on the plus side, fauna gets frequent updates to her model like outfits cause her vtuber parents are comparatively smaller

>>45786344
4 million dead subs?

>>45795712
>Extremely slow growth
Ehh it's not really that slow when you compare to other HoloENs and NijiENs, see
>>45788824
That's just the reality of the current vtuber scene unless you're a shorts-focused breakout like Filian. You're not going to see Myth-prime tier gains past the debut months.
>>45796309
You mean Pippa? Most other small corpo vtubers that I watch/know about do not have great with subs. I guess Rin from IdolEN too but she's following the shorts strategy I mentioned and still isn't at 100k. You can tell it's not really a metric most corpos care too much about because otherwise they would all use shorts to gain subs quickly.

>>45786344
I cannot wait for the day that Mumei passes Kronii in subs

just realized ironmouse has more subs than anyone in council and she doesn't even stream on YT kek

>>45797884
Isn't that her clip channel she regularly uploads on? She has 1.5M twitch followers, makes sense a bunch of them would sub to her clip channel

>>45798151
No, that's her actual YT channel, though it gets used as a clip/video channel a lot, but when she does YT streams (very rarely) that's where they'll be held.

>>45793797
>the best EN memer
maybe
>the best EN dancer (as in 'the most idol-like girl')
NO
>the best EN voice actor
kronii and bae are good too but I agree with you in this one
>the best EN comedian
probably
>the best EN singer, if not the best in Hololive
yes but she is to lazy to sing

>>45797884
>just realized ironmouse has more subs than anyone in council
>"Joined Sep 28, 2017"
Are you unironically trying to flex that an account that predates everyone in council by nearly 4 years has more subs them? (just barely at that rate, will soon get overtaken)
You might as flex PewDiePie's subs next lol

>>45786344
>Don't they want EN 3 to debut soon?
I don't. What we have is fine.

>>45787952
>post was ignored
cant say im surprised

>>45786547
gura's fans are just sykkuno fans. if he didn't acknowledge her doubt she could even reach 2M

>>45789453
>>45789973
cope, kronii barely even use her buff model anymore and still gets more views than fauna. your lame takes are getting old

>>45797456
cannot wait for bae to pass fauna is subs, so she can finally be called the EN shitter lol. after all her endurance stream, bae who collabs with homos still not that far behind. let's goooo

DEFLECT DEFLECT DEFLECT

Why is Bae so far behind her genmates when she's literally the best one?

>>45786344
BEHEAD NUMBERFAGS
ANIHILATE NUMBERFAGS

>>45800589
actually she mogs them on her twitch account as well in numbers and subs

>>45801921
Newfag...Bae had more subs than Fauna before, it was Fauna who passed Bae.
>>45801945
Subs don't matter for anything and they're heavily influenced by debuts. Kaela is far behind Zeta in subs but she beats Zeta in literally every other metric...CCV, Vods, SCs, etc. Don't think Kaela cares that much about being the sub runt.

>>45802083
>Twitch vs Youtube
Not really since YT has been actively fucking with ENs CCV since 2020
Even the most unpopular Holo would average like 10k if they streamed there consistently

>>45800589
That account had 500subs in early 2020.
Which makes sense as mouse only had 50 viewers and 1200 follows at that time.

>>45786547
>75% of Gura subs
Are fake.

bots

Subs are largely fake and heavily dependent on debut. Bettel has more views than Reine with less than 1/7th of her subs. Kaela is still the least subbed ID girl while switching with Moona and Zeta for #2 most viewership based on the week.

>>45801703
you should legitimately hang yourself for posting something this insanely retarded

Kronii hasn't budged. Was it worth it?

>>45803415
didn't the vshojo fans say she was streaming since august 2017?

What if Yagoo overestimated and made an agreement to only release EN3 after one of the council hits a million.

>>45797884
Ironmouse is far better than anyone in council, no surprise

Her voice just scratch just right while being smooth

I just saw a clip of her Gaslighting Cdawgva with sloth and slut and the clip was funny, both of them have a good sinergy and you can actually feel that she's trying to anger him passively out of nowhere

Cluncil never have clip like that nowadays, the collab are osef tier

I see more Bao , Selen ,pippa,shilily and Ironmouse clip than anyone in council nowadays, they don't have much funny moment like before

>>45805638
please shut the fuck up faggot

>>45788824
Irysbros what the fuck

>>45805620
That would be odd, since they’d be the only branch with that restriction.

>>45805620
More like they probably haven't found enough quality candidates. Have you seen the new nijien girls? They are all so underwhelming. None of the new EN corpos from smaller corps are anything special either. The biggest breakout EN vtuber in recent times is probably pippa and you won't even be able to do her type of content in Holo.

I'm sure Cover wants EN3 to actually be a strong gen that can actually bring in new viewers + bring back former viewers instead of just taking viewers from the existing girls.

>>45794301
>Moona
She reached 1m in February, while ID3 debuted around March

>>45786344
Why would you want en3? Holo en is fine as it is, it doesn't need more people.

>>45805757
The B**** yab really fucked her up huh

>>45786344
>Don't they want EN 3 to debut soon?
Maybe

Covid buff was really a thing
Even if any council member had a perfect personality,streams per week , good game choices,etc
They still would not reach myth levels of popularity, the only way to reach myth levels again would be releasing a covid 2 lol

>>45794025
Wrong.
Moona hit 1m before holofes last year when ID3 was announced.
HoloStars go by completely different rules and expectations because they're males. There's no shot they'll hit 1 million, while with the girls it's a forgone conclusion minus Council.

Mumei should pass the ho up soon. That was unfathomable a year ago, Kronii had almost 200k lead on her. It pleases me greatly to watch her crash and burn.

>>45811789
B yab?

>>45815862
Meant for >>45794301

>>45806638
Idol sniped all the best EN prospects, they're the only new wave anyone has had in forever that's been worth a shit.

>>45815926
Brian appeared in her switch notification

>>45811167
>>45815862
Moona is ID1 you retards. How did ID2 get released then?

>>45805508
Yeah, she completely flatlined after her yab arc, how anyone can say it didn't have an impact is delusional.

>>45816096
Existed before the rule and brought forward.
Otherwise JP3 onwards wouldn't have existed either.
Why did Gen 5 and 6, EN2 only come out after someone hit 1 mil, yet EN3 is a long time coming with no one hitting 1 mil yet?

>>45816245
But ID4 and JP7 haven't come out yet even after ID3 and JP6 hit 1M

At one point Gura had more subs that every ID member combined, even when ID3 was in its infancy. And if you think that sub number means quality, may I remind you that Mori is the top 3 most subbed Holo.

>>45786344
im surprised none of them hit a million by now and it's been over 2 years...

>>45817468
>over 2 years
time travel anon?

Council got subs cut in the beginning by alot and they were awful streamers in the beginning. Sana crippled council events, Bae went through 3 streamer personalities in the beginning and was a bigger holostar then hololive fan, Kronii doesn’t care about hololive and began to care less and less(not that she doesn’t like being there), Fauna and Mumei had no idea what they were doing. This is the real reason they didn’t take off. They were perceived as bargain bin myth and Bae was really affected by roberu being her oshi. If council was in myths position i don’t think any would reach a million still and if myth came out now no amount of unity would bring Ame Kiara and Ina to a million. Mori is a mystery

>>45786344
>Don't they want EN 3 to debut soon?
Theyre still trying to get their own Luxiem

>>45786767
chumbud here, not really for me, Gura has always been kinda scared of her fan base's size, with good reason of course. The more comfortable she can be streaming, the better for me, and if losing the "most subbed vtuber" title takes a load off her shoulders then I'm happy.

>>45786344
Subs are a completely fucking worthless metric.
Fauna is currently the second most watched EN and easily gets 9K every stream. Meanwhile Mori is the third most subscribed holo and her JRPG stream get less viewers than Kiara's these days and she gets less viewers when collabing with JPs than Fauna gets on random streams.

>>45801945
Males.

>>45786767
>if en3 drops a new cunny that overtakes gura in subs?
She just hit 4.3 million. While I always think that the next Gura killer will come from Hololive, it will require her to graduate to do so. Gura keeps growing.

>>45805638
holy esl autism

>>45823029
thats a straight up lie romao, fauna gets at best 7k on a normal stream

>>45822031
Even Luxiem can't get their own Luxiem, a lot of that chink market they monopolized has splintered between the people who went back to bilibili vtubers, the girls that went back to Kpop, and those that dispersed into the huge glut of male vtubers currently out there.

>>45805620
>What if Yagoo overestimated and made an agreement to only release EN3 after one of the council hits a million
Gotta stop repeating this retarded rrat. What company would go by that, when other more important financial matters would dictate a new branch. Especially since it isn't being followed in JP nor ID.

>>45805513
She has been faking her illness since 2014

>>45791217
I'll be honest I never liked her eyes

>>45786344
I would assume its because Council's members require niche taste, their personalities and designs don't throw as big of a net as some of the others. So they might just like 1 and think every other one is boring.

>>45823464
NTA, but while that's true, Fauna is still top dog in HoloEN because Ina and Gura refuse to stream. Steady 7k is a lot more impressive than swinging wildly between 2-5k.