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45772542 No.45772542 [Reply] [Original]

Is the reason why Gundou is being treated like Zaion is cause she's a non-conformist too?

>> No.45772598

>>45772542
Nijisanji isn't a idol company why would she be forced to sing and dance?

>> No.45772614

Is she being treated like that?

>> No.45772615

i wouldn't be surprised if the management has been itching for a reason to get rid of her for a while now desu

when they drop the 15 bullet point criminal record and termination notice in a month it'll be very unsurprising, and nijiniggers will cheer like they did with zaion

>> No.45772621

>calling out the lack of salaries
Kek based
Fucking black company
Total Nijitranny death

>> No.45772628

If by non-conformist, you mean yab-machine, then yes.

>> No.45772665
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>>45772542
Based, when does she collab with Sayu?

>> No.45772786

>>45772614
Nvm just read up on her suspension. This is too dumb to even joke about. Mirei is a bitchy whore but I'll have to side with her on this one.

>> No.45772789

>>45772542
If by non-conformist you mean dumb bitch, then yes.
Besides, if she doesn't like it, she can graduate herself like many other nijis.

>> No.45772813

This company is a shitshow. They want to look like holo but put as much effort into management as vshoujo.

>> No.45772815

>niji doesnt even pay their talents 5 fucking cents a month
>chat cuts rumored to be gigantic
No wonder a lot of them still have jobs. Jesus christ.

>> No.45772831

Um nijisisters...our liver talent freedoms???

>> No.45772859

>>45772789
right on, sister. the company is love. the company is life. all for the company.

>> No.45772861

>>45772789
>she can graduate herself like many other nijis.
anon, she just got "indefinitite suspension due to refusing to listen to management"'d

that's nijicode for a termination in 30 days

>> No.45772873

>>45772542
More like she has had many controversies in general since joining niji. She is pretty controversial as a nijimember. What she said this time seemed to be more like the breaking point for anycolour

>> No.45772887

>>45772815
what world are you living retard? they have cuts on everyghin monetization they do. Thats how members like pomu, rosemi and almost all EN became full time

>> No.45772904

>>45772542
I expect some Nijis will stand up to assassinate her character just like what the EN talents like Finana did with Zaion.

>> No.45772921

>>45772887
Nijicope

>> No.45772926
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>>45772542
Why are they trying to copy Hololive lately?

>> No.45772944

>>45772861
ah yes just like lauren, gwelu and so many others who got suspended
>>45772873
yes
>>45772904
a lot of nijis dislike her so yes kek

>> No.45772980

>>45772542
The fuck do you mean treated like Zaion?
Gundou pissed off millions of people. Nothing anyone in EN did comes close.

>> No.45772990
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>>45772542
She is going to get attacked by a bunch of talents and fans innit?

>> No.45772992

>>45772542
Lol, should have joined Hololive, but I wonder why Nijisanji is pivoting toward that
Isn't nijisanji supposed to be primarily a streaming company?

>> No.45773060

>>45772887
90% cut on every single thing including direct donations and merch is unheard of in the industry
Its extremely scummy

>> No.45773095

>>45772992
>doesn't want to do boring idolfag shit like singing and dancing like a monkey on stage for stinky otaku
>should have joined hololive
retard

>> No.45773131

>>45773060
they dont have 90% cut on merch, theres no info about that and on donations they have the most on streamlabs and on SC its 35/35/30 so what the fuck are you smoking retard

>> No.45773169

>>45773131
Pomu confirmed it. Are you saying she is lying?

>> No.45773212

>>45773131
Pomu did talk about it, threadreader

>> No.45773217

>>45773060
Why are you lying like that anon, now retards will use your post as an excuse to shit on Hololive. Which will then cause more posts like yours, and so the ouroboros of shitposting is formed.

>> No.45773245

>>45773169
>trusting Pomu the whore on anything her semen filled mouth spouts
LMAOOOOOO do holobronies really?

>> No.45773361

>>45772992
Fool. Hololive pushes that singing stuff even harder than Niji does. Hell, even Vesper is taking singing lessons.

>> No.45773425

>>45773361
>join holostars a male idol branch
>"wtf I have to sing?!"

No fucking shit you homobeggar retard. Do you retards even know what holostars is?

>> No.45773472

Imagine whiteknighting Japanese Enna.

>> No.45773506

>>45772789
Swing and a miss

>> No.45773535

>>45773472
worse, japanese zaion with double the attitude problems

>> No.45773558

>>45773169
Pomu didn't give a percent for anything. She was talking about how much of each dollar spent goes to the streamer. Given that we know streamers get roughly 33% of a superchat and mech falls below that it's somewhere between 32% and 1%. This also includes production cost of the merchandise.

>> No.45773573

>>45773095
Does she know English?

>> No.45773702

>>45773425
Most vtubers should take lessons anyway if they can afford it. I get being tone-deaf, but if you're working with your voice and don't take care of it, can't sing or voice-act... It's a recipe for disaster. Even radio hosts do specific training.

>> No.45773864

>>45772542
Probably. If you don't play ball, then they'll use any reason to shit can you. She'll probably get graduated and this will be on a list of like 20 things. Though I doubt she cares at this point. As she says, it's not like they give her a fixed salary. She's probably tired of the vtubing thing by this point.

>> No.45773912

>>45772980
Ah so you admit that Zaion's jokes were nothingburgers. The sisters just wanted her gone. Many such cases.

>> No.45773918

>>45773535
That is exactly why she is based

>> No.45773937

>>45773864
Sure seems that way for a long time. Even if she gets canned what happens? She'll still be playing Mahjong with people she knows.

>> No.45773977

>>45773864
If Zaion got like 13 things in 3 months Gundou's list is going to require a 2nd or 3rd page.

>> No.45774009

>>45773535
That's why I like her. But hey. You gotta toe the line. The sisters run the game now.

>> No.45774065

>>45773977
For legal reasons isn't it a bad idea to do those lists in Japan? Can't Niji get sued for defamation if they ruin her reputation by it? Whether it is true or not

>> No.45774104

>>45773864
She was actually joking about leaving Nijisanji to marry Takaharu Ooi mahjong pro who she was collabing with and making jokes about being a hololive member etc... like a day or two before the suspension.
It's actually pretty funny that she got away with all these things and more but a dumb baseball joke is what gets her suspended, sports fans are quite something.

>> No.45774110

>>45774065
Why would they care? Good luck suing a chinese corpo

>> No.45774127

>say she likes zaion when she isn't and catalog retards claim to love her/always loved her
LMAO

>> No.45774168

>>45772542
Nijisanji's management is so fucking funny to watch. They freak the fuck out over stuff nobody cares about and is so out of touch to believe that anybody that is even slightly observant won't think they're out of line.

>> No.45774218

>>45772542
Back when I started watching vtubers in late 2019 that was the appeal of nijisanji to me, they were a lot more eclectic than hororaibu. I haven't watched any of them in ages, but it'd be a shame if they lost that edge to them. That absolutely batshit insane neko, gundou "i'm a real teacher" mirei etc.

>> No.45774235

>>45772542
Niji management probably looking for reasons to unperson her and this might be the chance they are looking for
If Gundou doesnt play ball with them she's probably gonna be zaioned as well

>> No.45774236

>>45772926
They got cocky and thought they'd always be number one but when Holo took off considerably overseas they started to panic.

>> No.45774262

>>45774110
Because they could lose the lawsuit and have to payout millions? Think of the stock prices sister!

>> No.45774435

>>45772926
idol culture bad, but its ok when theres money to be made for riku yacht
also half ass it because we are actually not an idol company lmao

>> No.45774441

>>45772598
It's becoming that.
Why do you think some people have quit over the changing direction of the company?

>> No.45774465

>>45773169
>>45773212
Pomu didnt say anything about percentage you faggot, only order of most and less cuts on EN

>> No.45774530

>Nijisanji and baseball Japs is so messed it that I'm defending Gundou of ALL people
Wth is this world coming too?

>> No.45774573

>>45772598
Because singing and dancing makes money, and Anycolor management's sole focus is profits.

>> No.45774650

Reminder that Nijisisters said this would never happen, that NijiEN's bullshit had nothing to do with JP and that Gundou warning about the idol shit was just her being paranoid. Another L for Nijifags.

>> No.45774801

>>45774573
>holobrony is willing to throw away any semblance of coherent beliefs in order to shit on nijisanji
seems like business as usual to me

>> No.45774831

>>45774650
What the fuck does any of that have to do with her pulling the Japanese baseball version of "Taiwan is a country"?

>> No.45774873

>>45774218
It was unironically over when they went public.
It just feels extra weird because like you said, that brand of weirdness was Nijisanji's selling point.

>> No.45774911

>>45774801
Anyone who even glances at Anycolor's behavior can see that they only support livers who make the most money.

>> No.45774966

>>45774831
>Japanese baseball version of "Taiwan is a country"?
It isn't anon, this is a black company. When someone is on the shitlist, they look for reasons to punish them.

>> No.45774998

>>45772992
>Lol, should have joined Hololive
You're an actual retard if you think anyone would want gundou in hololive

>> No.45775233

>>45772926
>>45774573
Nijisanji has concerts since 2018 and music units like Raindrops since 2019. Stop acting like this is something new just because they are making more units
doesnt mean everyone will be part of this, they dont even have talent for that

>> No.45775276

made for VShojoJP

>> No.45775283

>>45774998
you never know
if marine didn't fail nijisanji auditions people would be saying she could never be a holo

>> No.45775285

>>45775233
You think you know more than Gundou? Interesting

>> No.45775336

>>45775276
Actually, that would be a good move for her.

>> No.45775420

>>45775283
Weren’t there some gen 3 members that basically were rejected from Nijisanji?
The jokes on Anykara, because now those Hololive talents have a more dedicated fanbase than most of Nijisanji’s.

>> No.45775449

>>45773095
>Kaela on asked about Holofes
>they didn't force her to dance or sing
>she then asked what she could do
>you can make art or even poems if you like
Hololive doesn't force their people to do much, at least not to a certain degree

>> No.45775458

>>45775233
How can you say that when Mito literally copied Sora.

>> No.45775610

>>45772598
Nijisanji is basically hololite at this point
They're transforming into an vtuber idol company, but doesn't have the technology to go against hololive

>> No.45775619

https://twitter.com/g9v9g_mirei/status/1638333072579104768?t=_7w7YYPlij4Y4OD0Bz9gCg&s=19
What does this even say dekenai

>> No.45775728

>>45775285
He is half right. Nijisanji just went from support their talent interest into support their invester interest.
Their old units are actual music units for music people. Their new units are cash grabbing boybands and nornis.
Well, they are not copying Hololive. They manage to out idol Hololive which is ironic af.

>> No.45775734

>>45775610
>but doesn't have the technology to go against hololive
¿
Their 3D tech has always been superior to cover's

>> No.45775879

>>45775619
it's literally n4 japanese anon

>can't ball throwers be suspended for throwing the ball at the head or the body of good players when it's their turn (to bat)?

>> No.45775933

>>45775610
Hololite is a bit generous, VTA seems novel but everything outside of that seems like you’re signing yourself up for a worse experience in terms of company support.

>> No.45776026

>>45772542
She isn't being mistreated, but yes she has a tendency to say stupid shit, probably why she isn't a teacher anymore.

This drama is at least funnier than her rant about why fascism is so great or her history of grooming other girls.

>> No.45776066

>>45775879
And what is the issue with it exactly?

>> No.45776154

>>45776026
The main issue is really that being Japanese, she should in theory know that a tweet like that would get a whole bunch of people mad. If Nijisanji suspended her for not having basic social common sense, then yeah, I get it.
If she returns and everything goes on then it was just the kind of thing you have to do to please the baseball autists. If she gets terminated, then welp, let the “this is just like zaion” rrats proliferate, because they’ll deserve it.

>> No.45776159

>>45773472
More like what people were afraid Nina was going to be like. Except, Gundou is a fascist instead of a commie.

>> No.45776169

>>45775449
Kaela didn't perform on stage because nobody in ID3 has their 3d yet anon. What the fuck are you talking about?

>> No.45776185

>>45772598
Unicorn bros... you won. I hope you enjoy this era.

>> No.45776244

>>45772598
lmao

>> No.45776361

>>45776159
>Except, Gundou is a fascist instead of a commie.
Is that why she supports the Israeli occupation of Palestine?

>> No.45776395

>>45772598
Because they couldn't monopolize vtubing in time, so now they have to compete against a company that was literally a box with scraps

>> No.45776429

>>45776026
Gundou was never a teacher. It was just another one of her lies. She flippantly admitted this on a stream once and got enjou'd for it.

>> No.45776481

>>45773573
No, she's a JP nationalist.

>> No.45776503

>>45776026
>her rant about why fascism is so great
Since when are JP cucks willing to admit this?

>> No.45776505

>>45776178
>>45776178
Well I hope FALSEEYE stick on his rules on not covering NijiJP tweet

>> No.45776538

>>45776066
twice folded japanese autism is the most powerful force in the country

>> No.45776683

>>45776503
Fascism isn't taboo in Japan like it is in the West anon. They're already functionally a one party state

>> No.45776847
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She was always one of the most disliked in NijiJP.

>> No.45776983
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>>45772542
sup gundou

>> No.45776987

>>45776683
>Fascism isn't taboo in Japan like it is in the West anon
In what sense, just saying one party rule is actually based?
Because few JP will ever openly suggest their burger masters were on the wrong side of history and defend fascism as a concrete historical entity they were a part of through the Axis powers.

>> No.45777060

>>45772598
niji is poor mans hololive, they cant be creative or interesting they only copy

>> No.45777120

>>45772789
why are niji fans such brand faggots, they are like the apple of vtubers

>> No.45777193

>>45776066
nothing

>> No.45777244

>>45777120
>why are niji fans such brand faggots,
Women are mindless consumers by nature anon.

>> No.45777256

>>45772598
unironically to compete with hololive

>> No.45777284

>>45776847
Wait Gundou actually the most disliked Niji both by fans and liver. Her termination probably would bring benefits for Anykara

>> No.45777304
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>>45775734
nijitech
>screens aren't even calibrated properly even with more expensive ticket price

>> No.45777370

>>45772542
You need to be 18 or older to post here.

>> No.45777417

>>45777193
Alright, then what is the issue with it from the perspective of a japanese baseball autist

>> No.45777468

>>45777304
What is wrong in this screen?

>> No.45777473

>>45777284
Most disliked is Shibuya Hajime according to suki-kira. Meiro is ranked 2nd. Gundo comes in 3rd.

>> No.45777547

>>45772789
>forced livers to sing and dance when anykara didnt even give them minimum wage/salary
>AIEEEEEEE WHY COULDNT SHE JUST COMPLY!!!
kys anyrectum licker

>> No.45777553
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Hololive started out by copying Nijisanji, but now Nijisanji is forced to copy Hololive in order to compete.
The circle of life...

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>>45776847
Yeah like the drama/rumors about her lying about her occupation and making up full stories that later made her more popular. + there is the drama about her bad behaviour in general. Those are mostly why she is so hated

>> No.45777595

>>45777417
i generally dont know, its like asking why F1 drivers dont drive each other of the track. its a silly question with a bad history that sportards take overly seriously

>> No.45777615

>>45776847
That website is a den of schizos. Fubuki is one of holo's most hated there.

>> No.45777625

>>45777468
it's not saturated shit like irys' new avatar
toddlers love bright colors

>> No.45777639

>>45777304
i mean, it can`t be worse than kanae right?

>> No.45777693

>>45777639
Holy shit so much superiority on the tech

>> No.45777743

>>45777284
Shut up Nijishill

>> No.45777870

>>45777615
Just shows that she has a bunch of schizos who hate her. They will jump at her for any mistake.

>> No.45777922

>>45777468
You see, the screen brightness is calibrated inversely proportional to their singing skills

>> No.45778015

>>45772542
Enna can dance and sing?

>> No.45778030

>>45777615
Yeah it doesn't automatically tell "who is the worst person" but instead "who has the most dedicated antis". (Since one can vote once a day and not simply once if I remember right)

>> No.45778063

>>45776185
You can be a singer and dancer and still interact with males on stream. Look at Polka, Bae, and Matsuri. Gundou doesn't want to be a performer but a live streamer behind an avatar. She's right that they shouldn't be forced into performing since they don't get a paycheck from Anycolor. Probably have to pay out of pocket for lessons too.

>> No.45778191

they want to be hololive so bad

>> No.45778545

>>45778063
She still hardly sings and dances, as before. Nothing has changed for Gundou, it's just her thoughts about choosing the direction of the company after Axia's graduation.

Increasing the singing and dancing focus will give Akane and Chima (for example) a chance to get more stage time, and those who don't particularly want to participate in this will still not be drawn in as before.

>> No.45778597

>>45778015
no but she can shit

>> No.45778774

>>45772542
Why is nijisanji such a black company?

>> No.45778944

>>45778030
Yes, and you need to vote to be able to read the comments. So you are encouraged to vote everytime you check for new comments.

>> No.45779115

>>45775933
>VTA seems novel
its a interesting idea but Nijisanjis execution of it so far leaves a lot to be desired. one of the first graduates from it had trouble at the start since it turned out that her pc couldn't handle live2D and games at the same time. something that really should have been tested in the academy with some default dummy live2D

>> No.45779121

>>45776185
Idolfags and Unicorns are not the same. I want to see them sing and dance and achieve their dreams on stage, I don't give a fuck about their rm.

>> No.45779423

>>45775728
>They manage to out idol Hololive which is ironic af.
in what facet? scandals?

>> No.45779810

>>45779423
All the negative aspects in idol I guess
>scandals
>nutjob fanbase
>ruthless management
>etc

>> No.45779914

>>45775728
Nornis is an actual music group for music people though. Shit on trinity or something instead.

>> No.45780540

>>45779914
Nornis is a waste of resoruce that would have been put to much better use in supporting a btter singer like enna instead

>> No.45780727

A reminder that you can count the JP fans who are against this decision on one hand. Anycolor isn't going to give a shit whether or not your EOP ass agrees with their decision. You weren't the one watching Gundou or even any of the other Japanese livers. What matters here is the Japanese people and their culture and opinions, not yours.

>> No.45780746

>>45772598
Nijisanji wants to bring in the hololive fans but they have no understanding of why people like idols. They believe they just need the livers to dance and sing. Cover may piss off some of their talents with the idol stuff but they at least understand the market.

>> No.45780805
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>>45776847
Lapu...

>> No.45780825

>>45772831
You have the freedom to learn the rules of baseball.

>> No.45781040

>>45772873
Notice how this sounds exactly like what Nijiniggers said under every thread when Zaion got terminated, they really behave like bots kek.

>> No.45781055
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45781055

>>45780805
Oh no Horishima is hated kek

>> No.45781228
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45781228

Intedesting, Debi debi, butler and joker at home are the most like Nijis.

>> No.45781283

>>45775449
You believe this lmao

>> No.45781318
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45781318

>>45781228
Mel, Soda and Luna are the most liked Holos

>> No.45781358

>>45780727
I don't think my opinions are ever going to factor into anything anycolor does
I can still think this whole thing is stupid though

>> No.45781359

>activated her roommate account
>antis are now going schizo over it and trying to get her terminated
damn she really is the JP zaion

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45781516

>>45781318
Matuli, Lapu, Rushia are the most hated Holos

>> No.45781558

>>45781516
twap..

>> No.45781620

>>45781516
>Lui
...why?

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45781634

>>45780805
more like Lapoop

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>>45781516
Most hated Nijis. No idea who these are

>> No.45781731

>>45781620
I think people turn on her when she called Holo fans as ATMs.

>> No.45781804

>>45777615
They're just like us bros...

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>>45780540
learn from this guy because I chuckled a bit

>> No.45781842
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45781842

>>45781651
Most liked HoloENs

>> No.45781939

>>45781516
Towa...

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>>45781842
Most hated HoloENs

>> No.45782050

>>45772542
you EOP newfag, she is a whore and a bitch who is always doing something to get herself in trouble. she is also hated in japan for more than just a retarded baseball joke.

>> No.45782108

What is her issue? UUUUUOOOOAH!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B13LC6ay6Y4&t=3223s

>> No.45782139

>>45772598
>>45774573
Entertainment companies becoming publicly traded really is the death of creativity.

>> No.45782186
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45782186

Most liked NijiENs

>> No.45782270
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45782270

>>45782186
Most hated NijiENs

>> No.45782293

>>45781959
>Kiara is fluent in Japanese
>Most hated HoloEN on Japanese website
Really makes you think...

>> No.45782353

>>45782270
>3/4 of ethyria in there
truly EN's biggest mistake

>> No.45782356

>>45772789
Based
And debuts the new wave!

>> No.45782359

>>45781516
Noeru...

>> No.45782404

>>45782050
I don't care a shit what those slanty eyed riceniggers think. Every country in this world belongs to America and I want to watch Gundou play mahjong and make crude sex jokes the entire time.

>> No.45782429

And the most hated NijiEN, Stars and HoloID?

>> No.45782436

>>45781959
Sana didn't stream that much to have a hate base.
This site looks as accurate as /vt/ rrats.

>> No.45782448

>>45781651
1) Guy that said Mito and JK gumi would over take the whole vtuber business (Japs hated him for talking out of turn like that and he since been abandoned by them to this DAY!)
2) Crazy menhera (the bad kind) that tried to gaslight another talent
3) All around lying bitch and a cunt.
4)Kitakoji Hisui-Hated for not Rping her character (highschool girl that smokes and drinks? No way!) and for being so casual and chummy with older livers like Maimoto. She didn't take that lying down and bites back at her hates. Is also a little bit of an emotional menhera.
5)CHI CHAN! Apex gremlin 200%. Very cheerful. Why the hate? She keeps giving schizo anti's the attention they seek instead of ignoring it. Apex schizos hate that vtubers are making a scene on Apex
6) Guy likes to troll a bit and it makes unicorns and Japs butthurt
7)Chigusa- No idea...she's adorable yet likes BL stuff.
8) Nagao-No clue why people at this guy
9) Kanae- Kind of too long to get into. Just know that it involves crazy fujoshi women.

>> No.45782452

>>45782353
Since when have I ever cared what Japan thinks?

They're a backwards people.

>> No.45782537

>>45782270
>JP fans and EN fans agree that Ethyria is dog shit and needs to go
AHAHAHAHA. But really. You know you fucked up when opposite cultures/people can agree on something.

>> No.45782754

>>45782270
Yugo BTFO

>> No.45782961

>>45782754
Maybe it's not the best idea to make jokes about an earthquake in Japan.

>> No.45782992

>>45782537
They're not really fans, they're just angry antis. It's a really bad selection bias.

>> No.45783051

>>45782961
Perhaps, yeah.

>> No.45783263

>>45782270
>Hex
Did someone QRD Japs on how he disrespected Amamiya?

>> No.45783276

>>45781842
>>45781959
Looks pretty expected. Shame Kiara is still #1 hated but not entirely surprising.
The volume of holoEN is so small that Mumei shows up on both lists since she is right in the middle.

>> No.45783287

>>45781731
Eh? She did that? That's kinda depressing to hear...

>> No.45783371

>>45782270
>no Enna
Shame.

>> No.45783377

https://suki-kira.com/tag/%E3%83%90%E3%83%BC%E3%83%81%E3%83%A3%E3%83%ABYouTuber/dislike

Oof, Narukami Sabaki is the most hated Vtuber in general, but Mikeneko is not that far behind at number 6. (and 11)

>> No.45783427

>>45782448
>9) Kanae- Kind of too long to get into. Just know that it involves crazy fujoshi women.
Isn't it the opposite though? I thought he had a lot of antis that are Kuzuha fans who don't like Kanae acting/being so close with him.

>> No.45783651

>>45783287
The context was that an AI player rounding out the numbers in a mahjong game was feeding the human players good tiles, so someone said it's kind of like playing with a fan to which Lui said that yeah, it's like playing with an ATM. Of course the clip pasted to every matome site failed to have that first line of someone observing that the AI is so nice feeding them only good things.

>> No.45783888

>>45781959
please specify that Kiara even as the "most hated" still has 65% likes.
Gura, the most liked, only has 72%. Not that different at all.

>> No.45783969

>>45780746
>why people like idols
why people like idols?

>> No.45783982

>>45783888
I think Kiara was disliked for roommate stuff even before debut

>> No.45784020

>>45783651
>so someone said it's kind of like playing with a fan
Wrong, Marine said that the chat are calling the CPU ATM, to which Lui responded so they are like Holo fans.

>> No.45784158

>sukikira
just trash this thread

>> No.45784194

>>45782293
>Reimu is fluent in Japanese
>One of the most hated NijiEN on Japanese website
Indeed it really makes you think...

>> No.45784305

>>45783427
There's fujo's for both of them and they hate the opposing vtuber that isn't the one they like. It's all nonsense.

>> No.45784342

>>45782270
>Nina and Yugo
Yugo i get, japs are assmad about him, but how the fuck did we get Nina? Did the nijisister spread rrats to jp or what

>> No.45784370

>>45772542
When is Gundou going to visit Italy again?

>> No.45784447

>>45776847
>removed my comment
coward website

>> No.45784491

>>45784342
Nina was blatantly leeching hard on Luxiem which pissed off the predominantly female NijiEN fan base. Reimu had a similar but more specific Kerfuffle with her Vox relationship stupidity.
Enna meanwhile panders to them which might be why she isn’t so hated.

>> No.45784573

>>45772542
Blood sacrifice for Riku Yacht
Acceleration

>> No.45784590

>>45784447
I didn't know they had moderation considering the state of the comments. What did you post?

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>>45772598

>> No.45784636

>>45784590
>日本の斜視の猿がどう思おうが、知ったこっちゃない。この世界のすべての国はアメリカのもので、俺は郡道さんが麻雀を打ち、下品な下ネタを言うのをずっと見ていたいのだ。謝れ。

>> No.45784686

>>45784305
I get what you're trying to say but you're using the term "fujo" wrong you retard. The term you're looking for is gachikois (or yumes), those are the ones that don't want anyone getting too close to their oshi. Fujos ship them and like seeing them interact, I doubt they're the ones spamming anti comments for only one of them.

>> No.45784692

>>45775734
>Their 3D tech has always been superior to cover's
>he says this when the Kanae catastrophe happened literally last week
LMAO

>> No.45784759

>>45784491
Nina was kept out of her owns gen active discord and had no choice but to collab with her kohais.
Either that or being treated like a second class citizen. She's been doing her own thing for a while and it's been working.

>> No.45784840

>>45772542
Somehow both Kanda and Gundou manage to keep getting flamed
Truly a power couple

>> No.45784884

>>45784636
roru

>> No.45785014

>>45783888
While the difference is small in percentage, I think they are consistent results since they are based on tens of thousands of votes

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>>45784686
No one actually cares but you, autist.

>> No.45785263

Why don't you just post the full video already?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1bQdggGLjo

>> No.45785302

As an EOP I don't know shit-all about this lady but I downloaded some of her asmr streams once and was able to bust a nut
so I'm gonna go ahead and say her getting suspended was a real shame

>> No.45785360

>>45782436
I think graduations are a immediate dislike factor. Sana, Rushia, Coco, Yugo, Zaion... all in there in top

>> No.45785405

>>45785360
>corpo tells me vtuber bad
>must go hit button on the schizo website
literal bugperson mentality

>> No.45785491

>>45785405
Only retards push buttons on sites like that, so it checks out.

>> No.45785578

>>45777547
>>45777120
Lmao, you have no idea who Gundou is. Fucking holoEN newfags.

>> No.45785728

>>45785578
>she upset some literal mouthbreathing bugpeople with garbage truck sounds and talking about sex and you don't even care?
>wow, fucking newfag

>> No.45785757

>>45772542
black company

>> No.45785838

>>45780727
not gonna stop me from mocking the slanties

>> No.45786035

Hololive wins by doing absolutely nothing

>> No.45786036

>>45784759
Nina is a rather cynical in her job and her motives tend to be pretty obvious, they certainly were not humble or innocent.
But I don’t want to imply that she wasn’t wronged by her wave, as you said she was. She is bad in a different way compared to the cancer that is the rest of Ethyria, which makes it seem minor in comparison.

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Can Nijisanji go ONE FUCKING DAY without some sort of retarded drama? What a fucking shitshow of a company.

>> No.45786096

>>45785143
I care too.
You should as well.

>> No.45787963

>>45786096
No.

>> No.45788280

>>45776066
> pretending to be a baseball newfag and spouting condescending shit
> braindead statement to make even as a joke (people have died from getting hit by balls)
> a certified teacher, so concernfagging about her teaching kids with this mindset

All of it amplified by being right in the middle of probably the biggest baseball event which Japan won, so anyone standing out negatively during this gets 10x the hate.
In addition to this, Nijisanji has sponsorships with not just baseball video games, but actual Japanese Baseball leagues as well (central league).
This will have a lot of negative impressions on sponsors and Nijisanji brand thanks to the tweet going viral (due to the aforementioned factors).

>> No.45788397

>>45788280
Why do you have a space between > and the words

>> No.45788532

>>45788280
So it is nothing, and japs are fragile autists. Good to know.

>> No.45788823

>>45772542
Black company

>> No.45788982

>>45777922
Kek

>> No.45788989

>>45772542
They don't have set salaries? So when Nijisanji suspends their livers for upwards of a month, they are effectively denying them any income?

>> No.45789039

Is she worth saving?

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45789047

Whos worse, nazisanji for ditching gundou or autistic japs for chimping out over the tweet in the first place?

>> No.45789057

>>45788989
Yup. And people wonder why Zaion stopped cooperating with them after being suspended for almost two months in the 3 months she was there. They were fucking with her bag.

>> No.45789090

>>45789047
The chinese who have no business sticking their nose where it doesnt belong

>> No.45789106

>>45784194
Unlike Kiara Reimu isn't the only one in her branch to be fluent in Japanese.

>> No.45789185

>>45789057
How is this shit not illegal?

>> No.45789437

>>45789185
They signed the contract to work in a chinese slave pen. Its legal

>> No.45789546

>>45785360
>I think graduations are a immediate dislike factor. Sana, Rushia, Coco, Yugo, Zaion... all in there in top
One of the saddest parts of the vtuber industry is finding out that many fans believe everything the corpo tells them. Whether it's Hololive or Nijisanji there is a horrible level of brand loyalty where fans can't imagine ulterior motives. The official subreddits and paid shills might encourage that way of thinking but most fans are absurdly naive.

>> No.45789693

>>45789047
Her tweet got, what, 12 million views? That's after Nijisanji went full retard and suspended her over it. Shondo got antis shitting on her with a tweet like 30 million views (which no doubt hit some shady matome-like websites) and she told them to suck her dick and nothing happened. Nijisanji is by far the biggest retard in the room here. They could have ignored it and it would have gone away in a few days entirely because there's nothing there. Maybe if some online trash blog asks them for a comment just say "we'll talk to her about it". Simple as.

>> No.45789862

>>45789693
What did Shondo say?

>> No.45789903

>>45789437
>They signed the contract to work in a chinese slave pen. Its legal
It's streaming. They signed a streaming contract they are sitting in front of a computer. Contracted work is legal, they're just retarded for signing onto contracted work if they need stable income. But I wouldn't expect the underages of /vt/ to understand, they think every vtuber gets every cent made.

>> No.45789985

>>45789862
>>44926114

>> No.45790005

>>45788989
make an effort and try harder
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6m5P_n5njCQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UaxLbsgMEA4

>> No.45790013

>>45788989
>They don't have set salaries?
There are more than 200 of them, with some streaming like once a year, and at least two with a 2+ year hiatus.
Do the math.

>> No.45790037

>>45789693
It got an article a major Japanese sports site. Also what >>45788280 said.

>> No.45790146

>>45790005
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2fGW5Lt9jw

>> No.45790148

>>45789693
Shondo isn't sponsored by any LGBTfags though.
Nijisanji is sponsored by Powerpro (baseball game) and Japan Central Baseball League.
If the tweet got big enough and one of their sponsors reached out to them, you bet your ass they'd get right on that.

>> No.45790160

>>45790005
Try harder at what? I'm not clicking your nijibot links

>> No.45790245

Who tf is shondo

>> No.45790301

>>45788532
Wrong. This is the same shit that the nigger kneeling in the handegg games. Baseball is a serious business to the nips. Half the country was watching the game and the other half probably would be watching the spring Koshien. There is this little thing called reading the room. You need to know when to be a jaded fuck and when not.

>> No.45790308

>>45790160
don't even know why someone would bother to have a discussion with you

>> No.45790319

>>45790245
My dear imoutowife and sometimes my daughter.

>> No.45790452

>>45790308
Since you are clearly from Niji management, why don't you answer the question directly? >>45788989
What happens when you give your livers a 1 month suspension and they are not allowed to stream? Do you pay them?

>> No.45790504

>>45790452
if you watched the videos you wouldve known they still get paid, cover intern

>> No.45790554

>>45790504
I'm not watching your shitty videos

>> No.45790678

>>45790554
then there's no discussion here. Quit posting from a phone then try again

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>>45785014
>same group of grumpy Salarymen with already forged opinions do same poll and get same results every time
Methinks this is a case of Inasanity

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>>45790245

>> No.45791293

>>45783377
Based keemstar of vtubing

>> No.45791780

>>45786036
>cynical in her job and her motives tend to be pretty obvious,
honestly i used to dislike her for that since it ruins the kayfabe but after the dumpster fire of some of the other NijiEN livers it just makes her look good in comparison

>> No.45791825

>>45772926
>lately

>> No.45791995

Well, was that what was really happening in the game? Did the pitcher try to walk a good batter or did they have beef with each other?

>> No.45792025

>>45790301
>This is the same shit that the nigger kneeling in the handegg games.
It actually is not, like at all. The negros kneeled for no actual valid reason, whereas gundou made a joke.
>this little thing called reading the room.
No one cares how 'holy' the nips find baseball, they are fragile and got upset over a harmless joke.

>> No.45792125

>>45783377
>Narukami Sabaki
Why do the nips despise him enough for him to be number one? What has he done?

>> No.45792315

>>45790301
>This is the same shit that the nigger kneeling in the handegg games.
It is more like when the bl*cks and others got upset and 'cancelled' anyone who did not view negros as gods. You are on the side of blm, no matter how hard you try to deflect lol.

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>>45772542

>> No.45792536

>>45792125
Nevermind, I confused him for a guy from nijisanji. I get why he is number one now.
Still, what has he done in particular?

>> No.45792661

>>45790319
A whore with a boyfriend. Like all vtubers.

>> No.45792772

>>45792661
>boyfriend
Husband. It's me.

>> No.45792871

>>45775233
It's pretty much because of kanae, he always wanted to be a holostar

>> No.45793103

>>45792025
Is exactly the same thing, both are disrupting the national pastime.
>No one cares how 'holy' the nips find baseball, they are fragile and got upset over a harmless joke.
Too bad she works for a nip company and her audience is 99% nip, so the nip opinion is the only valid one.

>> No.45793271

>>45782270
Surprised ren isn't up there.

>> No.45793292

Why do we have so many newfags who don't know how much of a liar gundou is? I don't particularly hate her but I can see why people do.

>>45792536
Suki kira is kinda just a site where people press the like and dislike button on whoever they like or dislike as many times as they can. So generally not the most accurate measure, but narukami most notably drove a girl to suicide or some shit. He does have a page on the vtuber wiki so you can get more accurate information from there than from me. He's had some rape porn made of him since he's such an awful dramafag, it's pretty good. Going back to the accuracy, I'd say most people don't hate Hajime more than Meiro, his placement just attests to how dedicated his schizos are. Meiroschizos just didn't like what she did to their oshi, understandable, but Hajimeschizos never let go of one comment that he wasn't even wrong about.

>> No.45793380

>>45793103
It is a harmless joke on twitter. She is not commentating live during the game or forcing the nips to read her tweets. It is not a political move in a vein attempt to save a dying career. It is a harmless joke on the internet.
>Too bad she works for a nip company and her audience is 99% nip, so the nip opinion is the only valid one.
Yeah, the nips should really consider fixing their fragility issues. They are almost as bad as the chinks in that regard.

>> No.45793394

>>45775734
https://youtu.be/DxT26Ht3zyA

>> No.45793649

>>45784692
>Kanae catastrophe
QRD?

>> No.45793748

>>45793292
why would you care about how much of a liar someone is when it comes to getting suspended for a baseball joke

i know nijiniggers have gotten the taste for character assassination but please try to at least keep it subtle

>> No.45793860

>>45793748
You do not understand, she knew trivial information about one of japan's most famous baseball players to ever live, which means she LIED.

>> No.45794109

>>45777569
Wait, so she's not an actual teacher?

>> No.45794117

Disliking Gundou is a sign of being a massive homosexual. She's a rare japanese woman that actually speaks her mind instead of trying to pull the meek gentle baby shit. She also sucks your dick in member asmrs and likes sniffing doujins.

>> No.45794215

>>45793649
Anons here are overreacting about his concert, it had some technical difficulties where his model froze and they took about 20 minutes to fix it. It resumed as normal after that but some retards on here saw the notice on the official twitter and assumed the concert got completely cancelled.

>> No.45794281

>>45794109
JK gumi aren't actual high school students. Nor student council members

>> No.45794361

>>45794281
yea, sure, but I always thought she could be an actual teacher IRL

>> No.45794377

>nips sperg out about beaning jokes
>meanwhile burger pitchers will literally bean a batter for celebrating a homerun "too much" or not giving pity strikes
Which is worse?

>> No.45794442

>>45793649
https://twitter.com/Kurono_Mei/status/1636294172981477377/

>> No.45794575

>>45794442
What is the big deal;

>> No.45794589

>>45793380
She wanted attention with her braid dead jokes and she got it. You reap what you sow, specially on Twitter.

>> No.45794666

>>45794442
am i supposed to be seeing something here?

>> No.45794866

>>45794377
>meanwhile burger pitchers will literally bean a batter for celebrating a homerun "too much" or not giving pity strikes
Holy kek is this true?

>> No.45794888

>>45794589
>She made a harmless joke, and the fragile nipponese took an unreasonable offense to it.
FTFY.

>> No.45794948

>>45772542
Lmao can we stop pretending that nijishitty is at all comparable with Hololive now? This company is a total shit show.

>> No.45794967

>>45794866
No.

>> No.45794994

>>45794866
Baseball is a sport for crybabies. The unwritten rules are such as that you have to give out freebies if you're winning too hard, and if you don't follow them people will literally fight you.

>> No.45795017

She will always have a place in my heart
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nib4g_4ZpCU

>> No.45795018
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>>45775734
superior 3D tech

>> No.45795262

>>45793748
I'm just saying that many people already hate her to begin with. I literally said I don't hate her. I don't agree with Nijisanji, they should have just let sensitive people be sensitive.

>> No.45795523

>>45783982
I doubt that japs would care or even understand the pro-BLM stuff

>> No.45795667

>>45795523
What the fuck are you even talking about, that was not the point kek.

>> No.45795794

>>45782270
Did Zaion do something to offend japs or is it just bootlicker "she was fired so shes obviously terrible" logic?

>> No.45795926

Why are JP fans so understanding in general about that but not western fans? is it all because of cultural shock?

>> No.45796038

>>45785728
Yes, you are a fucking newfag.

>> No.45796416

>>45772598
Unfortunately, idol culture is a thing.

>> No.45796417

>>45794215
When this happened at the 1st holofes in 2020, people just chanted "YAGO-O" for 5 minutes until it was fixed, it turned into a bonding experience and nobody was upset.
Couldn't kanaefags just call Riku or something?

>> No.45796778

>>45796417
Do you think the people making bait posts about nijisanji on /vt/ actually watched the concert? Kanae ended up talking to the audience while it was getting fixed, it didn't really end up being that big of a deal to the actual fans. Sure, it showed a bit of incompetence from anycolor but the only people genuinely "upset" about it are people who just want to find reasons to make up drama and hate on niji.

>> No.45796914

>>45796778
This
So what if niji didnt invest any of their revenue and income for their proejcts
Hololive still loses since they have less profits

>> No.45796967

>>45794888
Well, turns out the joke involved Chadhei Otani. Probably the most revered person in Japan behind the Tennou.

>> No.45796991

>>45796778
People who watched and payed for it on this site seemed genuinely upset by it tho.

>> No.45797146

>>45796967
Oh no, a harmless joke about one of the holy people.

>> No.45797316

>>45775276
so we are really turning vshojo from a hololive retirement home into a chuuba retirement home.

>> No.45797504

why jpfags are understanding but eops arent?

>> No.45798045

>>45797504
Japanese people are most upset that Nijisanji has people who would insult baseball in their company

>> No.45798366

>>45797504
eops dont watch or care about baseball

>> No.45798461

>>45775610
Which is such a bad move. Competing directly with Holo they lose. Holo has the grip on the idol vtuber business and will only get stronger.

>> No.45798582

>>45776066
It got millions of views and thousands of RT's which made management panice and go damage control mode before it got worse.

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45798676

I'm really curious to see how you cataloguetrannies are going to handle this one since you niggers don't know JP or have the attention span to watch streams.

>> No.45799304

>>45795017
She's one of the many Nijisanji that likes NTR so I don't care if she gets suspended.

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45799326

>>45797146
Picrel

>>45797316
I'm strangely okay with that.

>> No.45799684

>>45797316
As Kson intended

>> No.45800054

>>45799326
Yeah, muslims are extremely fragile.

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45800072

>> No.45800320

>>45795017
whore

>> No.45800557

>>45794589
>specially on Twitter
Now go back there, ESL

>> No.45802061

>>45798366
kek unironically this

>> No.45802863

>>45796991
>>>>>payed

>> No.45804120
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>>45794377
American here, can confirm.
>unsportsmanlike conduct, 90mph fast ball to the ribs, automatic first base

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