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>>45539103
She kissed a orange chicken girl as a joke ... and she liked it.

>>45539201
Makes sense that she would like fried chicken

The funny thing about her recent embracing of yuribait is that she could have just done this 3 years ago already. But no, she had to be a contrarian bitch throwing a temper tantrum over every flirt instead. She just fucking HAD to be the rebel snowflake.
If you're going to be that much of a buzzkilling curmudgeon don't even bother with the "muh character development, muh I've learned" shit later down the line, at least stay consistent. Because this way all you're showing me is: "Yeah all those times I've been a needlessly grumpy bitch? It really was for no reason. I could have just been a nice girl playing along but I chose not to be. Teehee."

>>45539103
she finally got the yab from kiara and tgey are expecting children this Winter... it's only a matter of time for others...

>>45539678
she thought she can use Hololive as a stepping stone for her rm music career,
but somehow reality hit her, she realize her rm career will never be as successful as her streaming career. So she turn 180 and focusing and embracing her Hololive career,
I mean i agree with her, who wants to listen a 30 year old white woman rapping in Japan? even in US which is the Mecca of rap, female rappers always be the second class compared to their male counterpart

>>45539678
I would argue she had no problem with being flirtatious but she had a problem with doing it as tsundere.

>>45539865
This isn't even true, she's been spamming RM activity more than ever. Hell she's barely even in Japan anymore because she's constantly doing weird concerts in the US as her RM

They always come crawling back.

>>45539678
she thought this hololive thing wasnt going to last so why put in the effort but now she is stuck here so better play along with the yuri shit i guess eh mori ?

god imagine the sex

>>45539103
Cunnur and ironlung ghosted her so she came crawling back

>>45539103
After Holofes Mori 3.0 is officially upon us. How long will it last?

>>45540622
Hopefully forever. She's drama-free right now let's hope she keeps it that way. I might even like her at that point.

>>45540622
Until she meets another batch of ironic weeb cloutsharks

>>45539678
It was part of the gimmick. The issue is that Kiara was full JP-style taking after shipping shit she watched from JP streams and Mori was really bad at playing tsundere. She forgot that there should be pretty equal amount of dere to the tsun. Instead during any group streams or one-on-ones with Kiara, she was in constant tsun mode.
Combine that with the fact that people who watched Mori and not Kiara (or watched neither but shipped anyways) would always hound Kiara about getting flirty with other Hololibe members but leave Mori alone, the ship needed to die down for a while to give both some space to develope their own thing.

She's earning her good girl points, which means she's planning to do some divisive shit in the near future, again. Fool me once..

She saw ironmouse was chatting up kiara for a collab so she had to step in

>>45539103
It's the calm before the shitstorm that always comes with Mori.

>>45539201
Interesting place for a Katy Perry reference.

>>45539103
I don’t know or care what happened I just don’t want her close to kiara, that pink whore can go fick off

>>45539103
Realised who her real friends are, it's good character development

>>45539103
The ironic weeb normies she's been trying desperately to appeal to for the past 2 years turned on her viciously for being a "racist". She has no option left but to shamefully crawl back into the Holobox after denigrating it as a restrictive bubble for most of her career.

>>45541177
You can always try to prevent it.

>>45541187
>>45541263
You're not Socrates, you shouldn't listen to your Daimon

>>45539865
I don't think I'll ever forgive her for getting instant success in Hololive and looking to try and clout chase and leave within months because she got her panties in a twist she couldn't join a twitch clique.

>>45541364
never forget never forgive

>>45541364
Proof?

>>45541364
Based. No matter how nice she now acts, the shit she pulled in her debut year was so fucking repulsive it's hard to put into words. Really showed what kind of person she is.

I won't be surprised if she backstabs Kiara a second time as soon as some new cloutshark comes along to put ideas in her head.

>>45541565
So is there any proof or is this all paranoid fanfiction?

>>45542120
Why are you participating in this conversation if you haven't watched the streams being discussed

>>45542201
They can't watch streams that don't exist

>>45542271
I see this more and more, newfags jumping into threads they don't have context for demanding to be spoonfed and claiming that refusal is evidence of falsehood. You can probably score points on Reddit that way or something.

>>45542201
Well maybe if I could see this "proof" I wouldn't be doubting your claims?

>>45542377
Got it, the streams don't exist, and you're just some butthurt faggot shitting on a vtuber you don't like.

>>45542377
I watched the members stream where she got the "don't collab with connor" SC live.If you're going to insult me, at least call me a cuckbeat arguing in bad faith or something.

>>45542412
>>45542463
>>45542497
>talks about alcohol nonstop to the point where it's one of the only things she sounds genuinely interested in

>applied to hololive as a joke, knowing nothing about vtubers or streaming and only because her friend Milkyqueen was applying too and showed her it, taking her spot in the process

https://youtu.be/tIU0xG-lXkQ?t=2397

>used to heavily bait for superchats in her early days, interrupting collabs to thank red scs "BIG UPS AKASUPA"

>says hololive only takes up 5% of her actual time

https://youtu.be/lBkuqt-xigY

>continuously trying to change hololive by attempting collabs with and mentioning anime youtubers and random men

https://streamable.com/zx0e7k

>always late to collabs and never sets up properly

>according to kiara has overslept multiple collabs, causing them to be cancelled or rescheduled

>barely talked during 2 hour clubhouse 51 collab with Kiara, to the point where Kiara had to use the weather deck to get her to talk at all

>made nothing but grunts and 1-3 word replies during shadowverse collab with kiara

>straight up said "no" when kiara asked if she had seen her new MV

https://youtu.be/nvZcIGnCSrs?t=12222

>lied to kiaras face about loving her king cover (which was a rickroll joke) saying she "listened to it all the time"

https://streamable.com/t2985s

>didn't properly setup for lethal league with ina, played and talked with fans while ina sat and watched

>acted like a bitch once the punishments game for puyo puyo tetris came up, refused to do any of them

>spoils outfits on twitter for first smol collab, does nothing for the jeopardy rounds and slams her keyboard for it

>blabs about alcohol before even introducing herself during a collab with Reine, an Indonesian who isn't allowed to drink

https://youtu.be/VX1hxP-Tmiw?t=342

https://youtu.be/VX1hxP-Tmiw?t=394

>possibly corrupting irys as she mentioned they've met a few times to drink tea

>makes myth wait almost half an hour in the ender dragon fight collab because she got lost looking for wood because she didn't prepare, then makes them lose diamond armor because she jumped into the void in the end

https://youtu.be/BwL9-tqLF3I?t=4641

>didn't call in for Ame's first birthday, called in at the very last minute for her second birthday sounding drunk with a shitty rap

https://youtu.be/tMwKQniur0k

>constantly talks to her collab partners like they're mentally challenged children

>simps over Rikka on and off stream nonstop, they collab on Super Bunny Man and Mori can barely hold a convo in Japanese, forcing Rikka to use his terrible English

>completely ruins highly anticipated first EN meme review with Coco by being nothing but her "dorky rapper" character instead of making any good conversation or jokes, to the point where Coco asks "are you okay? you're acting like a crackhead" and "is she always like this?" to 75k viewers

https://youtu.be/YTTnA4MQkg0?t=2435

https://youtu.be/YTTnA4MQkg0?t=1121

>woke gura up early on a day she planned to stream, wastes everyones time because she only then learned the game they were gonna play is local only, makes them switch to ANOTHER local only game, didn't install the final proper game between the time elapsed switching previous games, then makes sleepy Gura wait another half hour only for their gameplay to be fucked by seconds long delay, then finally settling on Phasmophobia, disables comments afterwards

https://youtu.be/sbo8zS8otzQ

>caused 6 month anniversary Don't Starve myth collab to be delayed by 30 mins
https://twitter.com/ninomaeinanis/status/1370508896150818817

>fell asleep on stream during very first myth Minecraft collab

https://youtu.be/NS3_sNTwIRw?t=10427

>told Gura during a collab that someone said her "booty stank" while working at a restaurant

https://youtu.be/WhM27pQZ_2E

>>45542564
The Trash Taste drama gets its own section, as it is the longest running problem with Mori and the sole reason this post exists

>Mori collabs with Trash Taste

https://youtu.be/tIU0xG-lXkQ

https://youtu.be/h5QspNrKphM

>guy from TT, Connor, says on Ironmouse's stream that people in hololive are popular not because of their talent but because of the brand

https://files.catbox.moe/91mnvk.MP4

>time passes, Mori mentions TT a significant amount the last few months

>a longtime member in Moris member stream says she shouldn't associate with them

https://files.catbox.moe/lfcm82.png

>Mori insults her members and lies that Connor personally apologised to every holoEN member

https://files.catbox.moe/75cb93.mp4

>"we speak to each other quite a bit, um, as friends", laughing nervously after

>someone asks Kiara about this, Kiara says she isn't in contact with anyone from Trash Taste

https://streamable.com/5a8uq2

>Mori then donates 50 subs to Connor on her new Twitch account

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ce-cR-f8TlM

>someone superchats "condom money for Connor"
https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/archive/superchat/iJvbxzGh_a4.html

>Mori announces that she won't read superchats anymore without management reading them first

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GxTissHo0AM

>keeps talking about the drama on stream

>Mori announces that she will be streaming on twitch semi-regularly from now on

>deadbeats in her comment section are upset about all of this

>everyone moves on

>days later she suddenly replies to and compliments a 6 day old Twitter post from a dedicated anti account of an MSpaint edit of her getting fucked by Connor, while her fans watch crying, insinuating her fans are cucks

https://web.archive.org/web/20220123054143/

https://twitter.com/moricalliope/status/1485121754624593924

>Redditors notice this and post it to the hololive subreddit

>she replies to the reddit thread "can I PLEASE just have some fun. Please."
https://www.reveddit.com/r/Hololive/comments/sam9io/uhh_calli/htukq15/

https://files.catbox.moe/lxuexz.png

>she gets downvoted and they shame her for her actions

>someone asks why she did it, she admits she's drunk

https://files.catbox.moe/z2z0mm.jpeg

>deletes everything, apologises on twitter, announces break but then says she's high on lean on her corporate, public twitter account, and then tries to damage control by saying she didn't know what it meant

https://web.archive.org/web/20220124193835/

https://twitter.com/moricalliope/status/1485136066008944640

>later, begins collabing with holo members again but it's painfully clear she isn't interested and is faking her enthusiasm, the entire terraria stream is an example

https://youtu.be/8ZiNmfUCEt4

>goes out of her way to put "with my FRIENDS" on her Terraria collab, and again "ft FRIENDS" in the title of Surgeon Simulator collab, when she's never done so

https://files.catbox.moe/minblk.jpeg

https://files.catbox.moe/u1ufzu.jpeg

>still won't stop mentioning TT

https://youtu.be/Zm_Q5yLdgas

In conclusion, Calliope Mori is a terrible influence on hololive and should graduate immediately. She has proven time and time again that she does not care about her position as a vtuber.

>>45541364
It's honestly funny how the fame got to her head thinking it was herself that carried her to success and not her model and the Hololive brand name. And every attempt to clout chase from Trash Taste to MoistCritikal were all flops. Hope it humbled her, because I don't want the other talents to be dragged down with her.

>>45542564
Most of this is just you complaining that she was annoyed with Kiara.
Nobody likes the chicken, I can't even imagine how annoying she is to work with.

>>45542654
>mori backstabs kiara
>nuh uh no she didn't
>watch streams
>no it didn't happen
>here's a source
>well kiara deserved it
this is why it's not worth talking to cuckbeats

>>45542564
The applied as a joke and 5% thing are complete bullshit.

>>45542654
>Nobody likes the chicken
That's not true, I like the chicken.

>>45542564
>>45542609
The majority of this is just nothing or the most minor of slights. Holy shit you need therapy, I'm serious, what the actual fuck. Do you have these "minor slight shitlists" for other vtubers (and likely other people too)?

What the FUCK happened?

>>45539191
actually its number 45539103 retard

>>45542564
>told Gura during a collab that someone said her "booty stank" while working at a restaurant
I will never understand why this is a problem.

>>45542120
>>45542271
>>45542412
>>45542463
>>45542463
>>45542654
>>45542756
>>45542788

>>45542756
Oh new cuckbeat how wrong you are. Year 1 Mori was fucking awful and she resented Hololive for not letting her suck e celeb dick on stream

>>45542609
I'll agree with the other anon that most of this is you getting platinum mad over literally nothing and just trying to find reasons to hate Mori like the schizoid your utterly insane list implies you are.
But I'll admit collabing with Trash Taste was retarded and a terrible move. Those three are just another group of fake nerds in an endless sea of normalfags latching onto whatever they think is "cool" at the time and at this point they even admit to not bothering with anime or games anymore.

>>45542654
>thread asks why mori loves Kiara now
>people shit on mori
>deadbeats defend her
>by shitting on/deflecting to Kiara
huh?

>>45540952
man, imagine how much more likeable she'd become if that transition happened
especially if she changed her wigger behavior to something more idol-appropriate
I want to see Mori become a cute pink trad idol

>>45542957
>Year 1 Mori was fucking awful
In her defense she was doing three jobs in her first three months.

>>45542788
it's a mental illness copypasta from 14 months ago. Go into the archive and you'll see that its always deleted and treated as spam. That should tell you enough to know they have no valid point.

>>45542788
NTA but It’s a copy pasta from a time hlgg still hated mori newfagbeat

>>45543089
The fact that it says she "still" talks about TT and uses a clip from January 2022 as proof says a lot

>>45542708
We call them gaslightbeats for a reason

>>45542654
Way to be a complete fag. Mori was shit in her first year, made some mistakes in in 2021 and early to mid 22, but now that she knows it's Hololive or bust, she isn't fucking around. My hate I had for her a long while back is gone, she's just fine now, but the fact that your only response is 'Well Kiara sucks anyways' is really telling of your mental state.

>>45542945
This image gets flashed around a lot, when what actually happens is
> this person is trash
>what's your source?
*posts something unrelated, declares victory*

>>45543386
You mean you call them that. Nobody cares about your boogeymen.

>>45543426
Lets face it you're a cuckbeat. We could post a video of Mori fellating a horse and you'd just go "So? Giving horse blowjobs is based!"

I saw Mori so I came here to post a cute image. Hope everyone has a nice day.

>>45542654
>Nobody likes the chicken
So which are you? nijisister trying to shitfling, deadbeat trying to shitfling, or egg trying to shitfling? because nobody who watches even the occasional stream thinks the girls hate kiara.

>>45543568
She could definitely say and do things I don't approve of. It just doesn't happen a lot. Because she's actually pretty great.

>>45543426
It's just unreal that instead of outright ignoring the posts or calling him a fag, you instead say 'Kiara sucks anyways'. Eat shit faggot.

>>45543625
>Accuses me of shitflinging in a thread dedicated to shitflinging
I guess it's fine when you guys do it?

>>45543625
A nijinigger made this thread.
Has been spamming similar things about IRyS and Kiara too.

>>45543669
I'm not that guy

>>45543669
You know that guy is just egg.

>>45543669
I just think its funny that this is a thread dedicated to screaming pure hatred for one vtuber, but the moment another has one bad thing said about them you fucking lose it.

>>45543704
Not him but please refer to
>>45543003

>>45543658
I can't fathom how anyone could watch her absolutely disasterous Rust streams where she shits on everything the other Holos are doing because she wants to appear above it all and thinking Mori is "pretty great". Shes slack, a shit streamer and has a bad case of irony poisoning where she doesn't even bother trying

>>45539103
Kiara imprisoned and raped her until mindbroken just liek my japanese animays.

>>45543878
... so it's fine when you guys do it?

>>45543876
She was trying to be goofy and subversive. I thought her antics were amusing

>>45543876
>she shits on everything the other Holos
I don't know how you got that idea from those streams. I admit she was being contrarian with her ways of playing it but she didn't shit on other holos in anyway.

>>45544181
The most derisive thing she said was "I'd rather die than play Minecraft," which was both hyperbole and based

>>45543967
quaso

That didn't happen.
And if it did, it wasn't that bad.
And if it was, that's not a big deal.
And if it is, that's not her fault.
And if it was, she didn't mean it.
And if she did, Kiara deserved it.

>>45544348
Already posted. Here was my response:
>>45543426

>>45544098
Subverse is a great way to show how full of irony you are. I'm so tired of ironic fans who are either in denial about the shit they like, just don't want to be associated with 'those people', or are looking to make money off of other fans while pretending to be better than them.
The anime scene got overrun by fuckers like that a long while back and I fucking hate it.

>>45544476
"Subversive" in the sense that she refused to kill people in the ultimate murder simulator, as a joke.

>>45544539
That’s the whole problem, isn’t it? Mori being asked to engage with something she isn’t immediately attracted to and deciding to “subvert it” “as a joke” before she even understands the concept.

>>45542645
her non-holo activities not taking off does seem to have done a good job at humbling her. being able to see actual crowds at events probably helped, a small canadian singer I like mentioned that as something they missed during the coof

I like how no one mentions how she basically shilled her underground jp rapper friends and got them mulltiple chance to work with cover as wells as a UMG contract around the same time she got hers. Btw these are the same friends that dropped her when she got big as Mori and came crawling back when they saw that clout. She is a horrible judge of character and think anyone that's nice to her is a good person.

>>45544267
it was comedy gold when she died/dc'd a second later

>>45545184
She was interested in rust long before they got perms for it, she just didn't want to run around murdering people.

Once the shitty pushed ship cooled down they became more organic with each other, honestly it's quite a nice dynamic now a days.
Also a thread died for this KYS

>>45545260
>Btw these are the same friends that dropped her when she got big as Mori and came crawling back when they saw that clout
no they aren't

she dropped all those people. fra and thhk have been endlessly supportive of her

>>45545260
I mean, it's a Mori hate thread, why would anyone mention how she sticks up for her old connections when it conflicts with the narrative of her being a backstabber

>>45545260
They didn’t drop her, they clung on and used her for free creative work while mocking her hololive career and trying to shame her into making eceleb content (that they could feature in)

Yuri shippers are even worse shitheads than Fujoshippers if this thread is anything to go by

>>45545383
you're so undereducated on this topic you think that post is about trash taste, please shut the fuck up. you know nothing about her

>>45545393
So true sister, catch you at the blowjob asmr tonight

>>45545321 me
Also, Mori moved to Japan to make weeb music and unironically loves anime. She's not an ironic fan.

who knows what goes on in her head? Maybe she thinks she's being a likable person ironically and in a few weeks she'll go on a rant about people not getting the "joke"

>>45545341
There was like half a year gap between the ship dying and their relationship "healing", not to mention the ship was officially killed BECAUSE they drifted apart mainly due to Mori being a ghosting cunt too busy chasing e-celeb dick to stay in contact with her "friend", which ultimately culminated in her outright saying she gets along better with other people and that gura is her best friend in Myth.

>Release cute cover
>Full blow yuri, even with Ollie
Something happen when she sign contract with Universal

>>45540952
Self-respect-chan was affected too. Truly tragic...

>>45545438
What free creative work did she do for Trash Taste you faggot

>>45545530
>ship was officially killed BECAUSE they drifted apart mainly due to Mori being a ghosting cunt too busy chasing e-celeb dick to stay in contact with her "friend"
Well it wasn't exactly that reason why Kiara killed it. More because she got tired of people yelling to her how she is cheating on Mori whenever she would try to flirt with other girls

>>45545349
thhk was one the people that peace out and only came back for that sweet UMG deal.

>>45539678
Hilarious how she treated Kiara like shit (which she admitted to onstream) at the height of her popularity and came crawling back once her popularity was waning and some people just eat it up, including Kiara.

>>45545530
She went on ironmouse's vtuber talk show and did one company mandated stream with a TT guy. And that one was 6 months ago. Since then it's absolutely nothing.

>>45545724
Reasons given:
>They aren’t that close after leaving Japan
>Mori said she likes other girls more
>Fans are mean about it any time she talks to other holos
Do I need to find timestamps again?

>>45539865
>female rappers always be the second class compared to their male counterpart
There's no parts of this world where white female rappers are going to be taken seriously. If she were black then you would probably see her RM bigger than she is today.

>>45545782
>which she admitted to onstream
And in that same stream she got advice from deadbeats to try and fix her relationship with Kiara.

>>45539865
Cardi B won a Grammy for best rap album

It doesn't take a degree in psychology to work it out.
>They were friends
>Mori got pissed about Kiara going back to europe and ghosted her for a while
>felt guilty and they were able to patch things up a bit but still uneasy
>were able to reconnect in person for an extended period.
>Fully reconciled friendship. Guilt gone=Very happy and love posting

>>45545950
Oh OK let me revise that, female rappers will always be regarded as second class by everyone but old Jewish pedophiles

>>45545950
now how many people like iggy azalea

>>45545851
meh, no one cares about female rapper (regardless of her skin color) except those who are popular right now
Ask random blacks in US who's their favorite legendary rapper, i can guarantee you 100% will answer with male rapper.
Hell jusk ask random black zoomer whether they know Missy Elliot or not, most of them wont know who she is

>>45546066
>Mori got pissed about Kiara going back to europe and ghosted her for a while
Then why did she "pretend" to keep Kiara at arms length until that happened?

>>45545813
>Fans were too insane about Kiara talking to other Holos while Mori had no backlash.
But that's what that Anon added to your comment about whatever the fuck else. Also goes to show that a majority of the TakaMori schizos were Mori fans (or didn't watch any streams of either at all).

>>45545950
We all know Cardi B pretends to be black.

>>45546159
The boondocks had a joke about zoomers not knowing ice cube was a rapper 15 years ago.

>>45539103
management happened

>>45546187
He’s claiming the last reason was the only one, when it was the least contributing factor. Kiara explicitly talked about her rationale and fan reaction was only a small part of it.

>>45546223
*shakes violently*
WADIDYA SAY NYEGUHH!?!?

>>45545765
no he wasn't, she has talked about this plenty. also talked about how he forced her to take payment.

>>45546589
She a thhk/FT groupie, and kiss the ground he walks on, of course she will work for free for him, that man just covering his ass incase shit go's south

>>45539678
>>45539865
For any of you fucks old enough to know/remember, this change in her happened almost immediately after her big record deal signing. My guess is that she was told to act more feminine or all of this shit would be taken away, because IMMEDIATELY after that record label event she switched gears and started acting much more feminine, using more sexual/feminine thumbnails, and embracing her co-workers more, including the yuribait.

It took some serious cash for her to act like a genuine female, essentially.

>>45539191
Lesbian sex is always better than “le Niji/Holo ESL bait anti thread #59392726578583624748573829484”

>>45540028
Reine never called back though...

>>45547175
every single thing in this post is a lie btw

>>45547175
It's not about acting feminine, it's about taking her streaming job much more seriously. She now has what she wanted, a career in music (albeit with the vtuber veneer), so her original passion project that wasn't getting her anywhere can be shelved for the time being. I expect her to put out small amounts of personal stuff, but otherwise be wholeheartedly focused on the thing that's bringing her both koney and music connections.

>>45547419
And one of the ways she does this is by ACTING feminine, yes.
I'm not saying she's actually feminine, because she's not. Her own stubborn arrogance from when she was way younger still prevents her from ever being attractive, but at least now she pretends, which is a good first step.

>sexually assaults her coworkers
>blogs about it
She can't keep getting away with it.

>>45547283
https://streamable.com/ldwdtm

>>45547732
I love Reine, she's great. Post the 'Takanashi... I MEAN TAKAHASHI' one.

>>45547610
this anon gets it, watch what a woman does not what she saids, she claim to have been bullied by guys when she was younger and how she doesn't trust men, yet she surrounds herself with guys and collabs more with the homos, then with her own genmates.

>>45547991
luv weine

>>45547283
Reminder
https://streamable.com/p4clyo

>>45548042
Her actual past is something like "I had a crush on a guy and he dated another chick and it ruined my life forever", which in of itself is a fairly normal immediate reaction, HOWEVER her unnaturally masculine stubbornness caused her to double, triple, and quadruple down on this sentiment instead of just letting it go.
This caused her to also view literally any form of statements of positive attraction, like "you're so sexy" or "this is how you act more sexy" to be taken as completely unwanted, further driving her away from femininity.

These are all things Calli openly admitted on Calli streams, just without any self awareness of the fact she's stuck in a teenager's brain.

>>45547283
Reine has basically turned into Mori-lite these days, barely showing any love back but totally fine with flirting with ID's.
There's a reason 99% of Pavonashi clips from her side are meme stuff like "haha she said she wants to eat chicken, that means she wants to suck on kiara's pussy"

>>45548208
That stream was cute. She was signing her cards for the birthday merch then, right?

>>45548356
Reine’s definitely dialed it back but I think the fans went too hard with it. I suspect that it’s fun to flirt with your friends and tease everyone about it but it’s less fun when the audience takes it seriously and starts telling each other about how you’re horny and trying to have sex and linking each other to “proof” that you are a lesbian

https://streamable.com/v0yskn

>>45548592
Just another case of a woman not understanding her role in a relationship and trying to distance herself from something that's perfectly fine just because it wasn't her 100% entirely autonomous decision.

>>45548941
What? No, I’m saying that it could make you second guess your statements when you know fans think you’re in love.

>>45547283
https://streamable.com/4resis
Tell me if this is larping?

>>45548356
>>45548592
t. people who never watched a single fucking second of Reine

>>45539103
Great. This means sex.

https://streamable.com/ii62uy
This was the turning point for her. Seeing Kiara on stage, happy and singing to thousands of people just completely broke her, to the point where all she could do is apologize through her tears. She later admitted that them drifting apart was her fault, that she was an awful friend to Kiara, and that she was actually scared, because she thought she had permanently ruined their friendship. Chat told her to stop being retarded and just talk to her, which culminated in her going to Austria to meet Kiara, and doing everything she can to try and repair their 'relationship'.

>ITT deadbeats attempt to gaslight and re-envision their oshi horrible history in hololive

>>45551966
This was definitely Calli's starstruck moment where she realized she was kinda being a bitch the whole time. Vaguely after this stuff Calli was working on being a better friend to not just Kiara but most of the girls

>Takamori goes from cringe corporate RP ship to fucking real as Mori continues to become gayer at an alarming rate
>Gurame completely shrivels up, get crumbs of stories from the Japan arc and the only stream interactions are in group collabs

Is this the law of equivalent exchange? It's not fair...

>>45552129
You just described every thread where Mori gets mentioned. It's funny, one of the few things they can't gaslight about is Mori treating Kiara like shit for an entire year at the height of her popularity because there's direct video evidence of her admitting she did so.

>>45552359
There was the moment where both Kiara and Mori broke their facades during It Takes Two when Kiara pretty much started sobbing when the mom tried singing again for the first time in forever. Mori kinda fell apart and killed off the tsun she'd played so hard for so long and comforted Kiara.
Fuck, just thinking about Kiara's extreme self-critical and thinned-skinned attitude during her first 6ish months in Hololive makes me feel bad.

>>45541364
I find it fucking hilarious how Mori literally applied to hololive as a joke. I bet she actually hates hololive and vtubers in general behind her back but sucks it up because it makes her 100x more successful than she would be otherwise. She probably cries herself to sleep knowing that she wasn't good enough to make it on her own and had to fall on something like this to even get a bit of what she hoped for.

>>45553008
>there's direct video evidence of her admitting she did so
And in that stream she also admitted she wanted things to get better and thanks to deadbeats she did get better at communicating with Kiara.

>>45553162
>I bet she actually hates hololive and vtubers in general
Hate is pretty strong here. And I doubt she dislikes it or ever has disliked it.

>>45553074
Kiara is an interesting case of self-centeredness, because unlike most people, she doesn't have ONLY the bad traits of self-centeredness, but also the good ones.

In essence, she actually cares about herself, which leads to some good things and some bad things. A skill most modern people have forgotten.

>>45553162
You're a shitter, but I will say it made me laugh one time when I went to see a music performance and the artist led off one of her songs that chad lines criticizing fuckboi rappers and idols with 'Some people take a line in this one out of context, but it doesn't mean what you think it means'. I think the song came out in 2019.

>>45547353

Nearly everything in this thread is.

Threatened.

>>45539103
>over 100 replies for this garbage thread
What the FUCK is controversial about Mori saying that she loves Kiara?

>>45554672
but the past etc. never forgive, please understand
an inoffensive mori is nice however, and it's good that she's getting along with the rest of the girls

I like that the ones defending Mori are the newer deadbeats. If you were there for Mori's first year in Hololive, then you'd know how justified the hate is. Every deadbeat was getting harassed during the yabs in every thread except the dedicated Mori thread. The left over deadbeats, after the yabs, are the ones that are a tad bit too parasocial and unreasonable. I mean congrats on the dedication, but the character/personality of your oshi was revealed then. And it wasn't very pretty.

>>45555942
None of these people are talking about the enthusiasm arc or whatever. It's deeply silly stuff like "5%" and "she HATES kiara"

NGL im interested in this potential kiara/mori/reine love triangle

>>45555942
But she never hated any of her genmates especially Kiara. She has fucked up a lot but never out of hatred for something.

>>45552903
DESU ame is more into kiara and mumei rn

>>45542463
Some of the streaks don't exist anymore because they were deleted because even cuckbraps bitched about it to the extent that she bawleeted that shit.

>>45552903
Imagine if we ever see Ame cry and apologize about her behavior. Sadly she's even more stoic and cynical than Calli.

>>45555942
I was there September 2020 and I'm still here now, always liked her, didn't care about the yabs. She never did anything that egregious except take bait from trolls, which to me was just kind of funny and I lol'd at her being a dumbass. People in this topic can't fathom that people can grow and change over time and one or a few bad actions don't dictate a person's entire character. She has clearly grown to appreciate where she is and hololive itself for where it has taken her. That is very obvious at this point if you watch her at all.

Don't know what else to say.

>>45560045
>People in this topic can't fathom that people can grow and change over time
A person doesn't change, they just get better at hidding their flaws

>>45539103
I assume her music career flatlining finally forced her to play ball and pander to Kiara after 2 years lmao.

Makes me respect Kiara all the more for her consistency through and through.

>>45539865
>>45541364
>>45541425
>>45541565
>>45542645
>>45553162
La+ did the same thing,, but honestly guys, you need to just accept that women have a lot of dumb fantasies that can cause them to miss the forest for the trees
As men, it's up to us to hold them responsible for being retarded, but also to forgive them

>>45562144
I believe in Hololive idol songs supremacy over that rap cringe, Clear Sky > any Mori song.
https://youtu.be/y1-gxWV8pHA

>>45539103
>What the FUCK happened?
A hololive talent made a tweet and (You) were bored enough to turn it into a shitty bait thread.

>>45540834
>there should be pretty equal amount of dere to the tsun
... Have I been watching the wrong animu?

>>45562144
>flatlining
Maybe on youtube but otherwise it is going pretty well.
>>45563747
>rap cringe
If it makes you any happier she is moving on from the rapping.

>>45563747
mori just isn't a good writer for lyrics, I've always thought I was a little too harsh but when I show someone else who doesn't really listen to this kind of music they basically say the same shit

>>45539103
Mori realized that this is her actual future and to invest in it super heavily while she still has the chance to live off the money

>>45563762
It's not just the tweet, calli has been talking about kiara a lot the past few weeks, I think she finally realized that the two of them are two sides of the sad girl coin and that they should support each other

>>45541364
>I don't think I'll ever forgive her for getting instant success in Hololive
Yes, you're a jealous nijikek and the rest of the sentence is you making up copium for that jealousy. We get it.

>>45564149
i was never fond of Calli but if she wants to improve that's a good thing, Wish she doesn't do a flip flop towards the future tho...

>>45542201
How exactly do you figure this discussion has anything to do with stream content?

>>45539103
What happened?
Kiara was good in bed.
I mean REALLY REALLY good.
Now she can't live without her orange chicken.

>>45564149
>calli has been talking about kiara a lot the past few weeks
More like a last 9 months

>>45543579
I FUCKING LOVE KAWAIIOPE MORIRIN AND I WANT TO MARRY THIS DORK, START A FAMILY WITH THIS DORK, AND RAISE A SON WITH THIS DORK, A SON WHO’LL INHERIT OUR RESPECTIVE BEST TRAITS AND ATTRIBUTES BUT IS ALSO JUST AS MUCH OF A DUMB CHUUNI AS HIS BEAUTIFUL DORK OF A MOTHER

>>45564349
Well yeah, but specifically she's been okay with teetee and the other day specifically brought up how much kiara means to her because she's the only person she has that really stops her from bad thoughts and just focuses on realistic shit

>>45554672
Dawww, poor baby, not everyone can be as good at baiting as OP is. But here's a custom (You) just for you.

THEY
ARE
HAVING
LESBIAN
SEX

>>45560045
Imagine trying to post on the clover site with this much intelligence and sanity.

Did Mori break up with her jap boyfriend?

>>45564349
So which one is pregnant?

>>45565664
Both. (with me)

>>45539103
Kiara won

>>45539103
Based mori

>>45539239
KEK. Underrated post.

>>45564042
Never say never, "she" has a huge announcement on the third

>>45573761
Please don't tell me that means what I think that means...

>>45539999
Nice quads, but you are assuming that it (tsuntsun) wasn't her idea in the first place.

>>45574627
Maybe but I meant more as she was not great at acting like tsundere.

>>45563896
Yes, you have. Having a cunt be a cunt non-stop for 9-10 of the 12 episodes is miserable. The issue is when you bury those 'moments' in your solo streams (i.e. where only specifically your fans can see it), it gets very tiring to anyone else who doesn't see those moments. In anime we get inner monologuing, character actions, and friends who spill the beans on why a character did what they did. For vtubing, you either have to be completely invested in the shio or watch both streamers to get that same info.

>>45540622
When she is no longer under contract with UMG

>>45579929
this anon gets it

>>45580063
Yeah, but that's around 2 more years.

>>45539103
She succeeded in moving Hololive into a more male/twitch normalfag direction. Now the taint will never go away

>>45539103
insanely vigorous and violent lesbian sex

>>45539103
Kiara groomed her

>>45574431
she always get "busy" during con season