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mommy mori
I love Ina!
koyokoyo cute
>>45492700Cute Chloe
I'm so tired and I can't fall asleep. Thanks Hololive.
>>45492682I don't and I don't claim I know everyone unlike that poster
I love mori!
>>45492700We postin' big holo titties
Lapsama my friend
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OutTXyVCoosThis Pekomix is pretty catchy, especially the second part.
I jwu after passing out post FES. Anybody have litterbox links for deco27 and day 2? I caught a couple right after sleep but not all of them.
i love towa
Taking bets now: how many days before someone other than Takamori begins streaming regularly? Personally I expect 5-7 days.
>>45492798I love Ina too!
is gura gonna stream soon?
>>45492838
>>45492868Bone Bros Love!
WHERE IS THE MAGNET
https://litter.catbox.moe/lrirby.mp4I love crowds
So, /hlgg/?>>45492091
>>45492911she is on a redacted mission in bangladesh
>>45492865this is like the strangest official hololive art. its full blown western, looks like Totally Spies
>>45492865why did they make Ame so flat in this image?
Now that the dust has settled, what specifically do (You) think made Day 1 so much better than Day 2?
FES is cool and all, but where's my wasteland wife Smol Iron?
>>45492953>Crossposting your own tribalshitKill yourself
Now fes is over, Gura will stream 4 times a week.
>>45492903I would actually be surprised if Fauna isn't back to business as usual by Wednesday
>>45492940
>>45492833What so satisfying about a girl counting down, Amelia Watson?
YOU KNOW WHAT? I'M JUST GONNA SAY ITChloe could have danced a little more and a little sexier during her Holo27 performance
>>45492953Kill yourself already
>>45492959>looks like Totally Spies>for HolospyI think it's intentional.
>>45492953Go back>>45492768
i'm so hyped for my dear comet's anni concert on wednesday and worried, i really hope her throat is in top conditions by then
>>45492882Day 1 and 2: >>45472183Deco27: >>45481075
>>45492963I don't remember the name but Ame is like the Iofi type where her tits are hidden
She does the steppy.
Did Gura really only meet a handful of the JP girls on this entire Japan trip? She only met Pekora, Marine, Koyori, Miko and Polka despite being in Japan for months.
>>45492903About a week max for most of EN, probably late April for Gura.
I had a dream where my oshi debuted a brand new super cute original song during Holofes and then during her group performance she sang BAD APPLE with Marine and Kanata and it was the most incredible thing I'd ever seen.Oh wait that wasn't a dream that was ALL REAL AND IT WAS INCREDIBLE! Aaah, where is the VOD I need to watch everything ALL over again I'm so goddamn happy and proud of her!
Thoughts on the Holosummer Bikini winner?
>>45492970Sora
>>45492970Day 1 was mogged by Day 2, sorry KFP
>>45492963Ame should have been cunny...
>>45493045thank you sir
>>45492970Better group performances
>>45493025oh i didnt pick that up
>>45492970It had my oshi and her lover and they are my favorites. I also liked Flare, she's cool.
>>45492970I think both days are great but I preferred Day 2
>>45493073>thinking I'm KFPit was just better in general, sorry chumbud
>>45492868Hey, me too!
>>45493063I'm gonna need some removeable layers
>>45492854Everyone come point and laugh at this fucking retard
>>45493060Hey stinky
>>45493056anon she was literally in aroom with all of them yesterday
breed the hag (forma de real)
>>45492953quasogey
>>45492959>The redhead is the sexiest in both groupsChecks out
>>45493063Laced sandals? Do they really...?Besides that it's a major improvement of the white polka dots last year. Still can't beat the individualized swimsuits though.
>>45493120pleb
Can a musicanon tell me if I'm overestimating how much work goes into this stuff, or are these madlads (and madlass) almost superhuman? They played 92 songs over the two days of Fes. Some bands don't release that many songs in their entire existence and even if they do not all of them is in their all-time rotation. And these guys had what, 6-7 months to learn them all? And did them flawlessly. Crazy stuff.
>>45492936on my fridge
>>45493063terrible, that's not even a bikinihow did that shit won the context?
>>45493153proof? have any of the JPs talked about this?
>>45493147You're stinky.
Went to sleep right after it ended and just woke up and man I'm still just absolutely vibrating. So fucking good. I loved every single performance, every girl was so good and they all worked so hard. Motherfucking Kino. I'm also so incredibly happy we got crowd cheers this year, it really adds to the whole event.I love Hololive.
>>45493138doesn't really get through after a second time
I guess irys 3d model being glitchy as fuck was to be expected since they didn't have that much time. Her face really needs some work
>consider the following
so can Council and holoro use their models now?
>>45493268Hey I'm not the one with half a dozen cats!
Everyone agrees that Fauna has the worst performance on Day 2
>>45493314I am expecting lots of shitty posts with this image in the future!
>>45493103holoX were crazy hype energy in this regard. Jouya Repaint is amazing with a live audience doing callouts.
>>45493247nta but I've only heard from IRyS about the rehearsal room and almost all of the girls were in there and she was too shy to talk to the JP girls
>>45493347
Detectdeeznuts bros...
>>45492903Ame member stream within 48 hours
I feel like everyone here is angry at Fauna for some reason :(
It was weird seeing an idol rap, that's for sure.
>>45493325only when approved by management, so don't expect a lot of home3D stuffs.
It took 2 fucking years but it was worth it
>>45493245by being youtube friendly
>>45493328That doesn't prove anything.
>>45493275audience cheering coming back is one of the biggest wins we could've possibly gotten and literally everyone gave a stellar performance, it's hard not to lose one's shit.kanatan was fucking great through and through.
>>45493451
>>45493314
>>45493414You are pretty cool, treerrat. Now please stop calling me a faggot whenever you post here I know it's you.
>>45493293redesign in two years
>>45493391Is irys autistic? How can you be part of hololive for a year and still act like kiara meeting pekora for every jp senpai
>>45492970What made day1 better for me was, we or atleast I had no idea how long the concert was going to be. So when they were about to finish the solo songs on day 1 I though it was over. The revelation, that we still get everyone in group songs made the first day into neverending kino.
>>45493314needs a watamelon
>>45492953https://poal.me/87oek6https://poal.me/87oek6https://poal.me/87oek6
I don't get fauna's performance. What's the appeal???
>>45493463Kiara's live tweeting was hilarious. I wonder why she stopped after a while
>>45493138Well at least he gave them a good laugh
>>45492970Day 1 was better, but only barely. Day 2 might have had the best performances of 4th fes, but it also had a lot of "okay" performances too. Day 1 was mostly above-average to amazing, from people nobody expected to deliver so strongly too.Day 2 had better group performances however
>>45493314RASENGAN!
>>45493517She is already getting mogged by bae in direct overlap. I doubt she will last 2 more years
sharkini soon
>>45493562Cute thick neck
>>45493063Isn't that just Mel's default? Surprised if it gets all the way through their ten-thousand times folded Japanese QA checks
>>45493563That's when her flight was leaving
>>45493451She's still never been punished, consider it impotent seething
>>45493211you're not overestimating but most idol songs also aren't particularly complicated, this isn't ELP or anything
we won...
>>45493211I think the crazy part is that nobody knows their nameI'm sure 6-7 months is a good amount of time for any professional musician to learn a bunch of songs, but there's a stark contrast between vtubers who clearly have prerecorded performances and maybe 2 to 5 performances each, versus a band who faces the pressure of doing everything consecutively and live and yet still pulling it off excellently
>>45493533>Is irys autistic?yes, is that even a question
>>45492970Moom
>>45493414https://youtu.be/eA6PJisfDYk?t=1731
>>45493589Why is Fauna the only EN that Japanese people like?
>>45493638This.
>>45493638GENKIDAMA!
>>45493551>Post Kiara tweet>Now what will Kiara do?>Seriously who is better between Kiara or Bae>Post poal>repeatYou've been doing this for the past 9 hours, give it a rest already.
>just finished watching day2 since I was too weak to stay up for LiveBae popped the fuck off, holy shitI still can't believe EN is onstage, and it's already been a year since last fesgod i fucking love hololive
>>45493597not thick enough
>>45493638Is she mooming in that image?
>>45492700
>>45493647Because she is the only EN that behaves in a japanese manerism delicate way despite having 3% knowledge of the language.
>>45493626wait. he got camera on him BOTH days?
>>45493647All the EN are well received, actually. Some more than others, of course.
>>45493463Is it gay to want them to kiss
>>45493211no, that was unironically a fucking marathon they played, and many songs were actually hard as fuck to perform. the right guitar player and the drummer especially were consistently pulling off very technically hard shit flawlessly, i was honestly really fucking surprised. they deserve every bit of credit they get.>>45493624>most idol songs also aren't particularly complicatedto sing, maybe? many of them included batshit insane or outright impossible guitar/keyboard solos.
Are you oart of the problem or are you part of the (final)solution?
>>45493705Shikotaro my beloved
>>45493702
>>45493060God it was so good, I was in complete shock that that was the group, and that they were doing motherfucking BAD APPLE of all things. Your oshi did great by the way, she always tends to shine on stage and I am very proud of her. OJOU LOVE!Ahhhhh, I need to go back and watch some of the performances. Why is HoloFES allowed to be so good?!
>>45493347Fauna suffered more from weird placement. If she didn't lead the slower songs she'd have been less jarring
>>45493626more kino than any performance
when is a holo going to cover The Kids Aren't Alright by the offsprings
>>45493702The staff found him before day 2 started yeah
>>45493626he looks like the outer wilds composer.
What does sweaty boobs smell like?
When are they going to start selling tickets for Connect? All the hotels in the area are going to get bought out by AXfags.
>>45493791>someone still hasn't posted himself eating his own cum.
>>45493705anon there's dedicated positivity and negativity threads on 5chan. Every screenshot you see posted here is cherry picked to push a certain narrative
>>45493692That's her secret, anon. She's always Moomin.
My rrat is that they fucked up the camera and voice mixing to sell more BDs
I'm very hopeful that ame can get EN to play fallout 76
Roboco LOVE
>>45493764It's just that easy, love hololive you get all the women.
please gather for another holoX milestonehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tNtLlaj9hPM
>>45493705>low ejaculation modeHow can I learn this power
>>45493846roboco CUTE
>>45493823Two weeks beforea day after they announce you need an AX ticket to buy it
>>45493647Mori absolutely destroys fauna
>>45493844did they even fix the dogshit multiplayer of it?
>shitniggers pushing holo vs holo again
>>45493823don't worryyou're not gonna get a ticket anyway, there's no lottery. Hope you enjoy paying triple the price to scalpers!
I'm still waiting for Gura to blow the roof off by singing some city pop. But today was still amazing.
How's LA like? worth the trip for the girls on July? I'm NC fellow all my life
>>45493942pls tell down
>>45493647
>>45493933I'm going to push in a holo's shitter with my massive penis that I definitely have
>>45493830That was clearly someone just setting up a grudge post anyway. In the end, it's pretty inconsequential to how great everything was last night.
>go to watch Makibao>no English subs>just Tagalog and Indeonesian>ok I guess the manga then>no translation available>fuck it, this is what I do my reps for, give me the raws>megaupload link is of an empty folder終わりだ
>>45493764Fucking winning, i love it.
>>45493832>it's cherrypicking because you didn't post anything from the thread where they hate them for no reason?
>>45493818I worked in a movie theater and was frequently given money removed from bras. It is literally just sweat from the same type of glands that are in the armpit.
>>45493921Doubt it, I just want more full EN game collabs
>>45493735There were definitely some difficult ones but some of the mix was prerecorded and a professional musician can ad lib a solo given a known chord progression pretty easily
Why didn't Ame do the ska dance?
>>45493961
>>45493966That's /hlg/ btw
>>45492700So which one of you niggas is gonna post the sauce so I can jerk off to Mori for a good holofes and then go back to hating her soon as I nut?
>>45493933but I'm italian white like Mori
>>45493991This shouldn't be allowed
>>45493764King shit
>>45493942very nice
>>45493980Still funny and takes the piss out of shitposters
>>45493120Shit taste, honestly.
>>45494007Too powerful for the Japanese
>>45493764what a legend.
>>45493983time to join a sub group's discord and groom them into subbing the series.
>>45493983everything will disappear
>>45493120weak shit my dude
>>45493983>megauploadWHAT YEAR IS IT
>>45493479Cats....smell bad.
>>45492970The fact that it wasn't as good as Day 2
https://twitter.com/nanashimumei_en/status/1637550057162670080https://twitter.com/nanashimumei_en/status/1637550057162670080https://twitter.com/nanashimumei_en/status/1637550057162670080https://twitter.com/nanashimumei_en/status/1637550057162670080https://twitter.com/nanashimumei_en/status/1637550057162670080https://twitter.com/nanashimumei_en/status/1637550057162670080https://twitter.com/nanashimumei_en/status/1637550057162670080
>>45494119>live performance of bad apple a few hours agoYOU TELL ME
>>45493647the only EN that Japanese people don't like is Gura, it's kind of a sad situation because she robbed more deserving JPs of the number 1 spot, so they don't like her through no fault of her own
https://twitter.com/nanashimumei_en/status/1637550057162670080https://twitter.com/nanashimumei_en/status/1637550057162670080https://twitter.com/nanashimumei_en/status/1637550057162670080
>>45493211WHO ARE THEY????? Serious, give me names, those guys destroyed on the stage! Sometimes even stealing the spotlight from the girls
>>45492863>doesn't know and love all the girlsSkill issue honestly, imagine not being unitypilled
>>45494178MOOM SOON
>>45494178Glad to know she's not dead.
>>45494178MOOMSOON!
>>45494119I can't believe this video happened it's like 2011 was another universe https://youtu.be/o0Wvn-9BXVc
>>45494178I can't see anyone saying they're going to stream without thinking about Gura.
>>45494167anon I think your taste just sucks
Stop mooming
>>45494188yeah sure. the nips hate same-chan.
>>45494073ogey
>>45493764GO /vt/ GO
>>45492970Both where great, for one because HoloEN finally debuted in Idol Suit and two to see all of them together.
>>45494215Mindbroken.
So who was the better dancer: Ina or Mumei?
>>45494219You baited these replies anon
>>45493647wrong, only Alice is disliked by japanese people
>>45493589>Mumei>FaunaWhat makes the elevens like them so much?
>>45494167That's just your opinion, man.
>>45494178IM ALREADY MOOMIN
>>45493950Her singing Recipe - Tatsuro Yamashita during her birthday is absolute perfection.
>>45494188Nah, that's Kiara.They find Kiara to be a little bit cringe. Like she's too good at japanese and too much into japanese culture. It's weird.
>>45494167weak bait
>>45494298Yeah
>>45494262Current Ina, definitely. She's solidly on top of the "cannot dance" tier (at least when Ame's too shy to go all out)
>>45494064It was funny in the moment, but now schizos are trying to push that shit onto IRyStocrats in order to start fanbase wars and that shit is dumb as fuck
>>45492970
>>45493950chumbuds please pressure her harder for that city pop original.
>>45494134YOU SMELL BAD.
>>45494178HECK YEAH
Is there any backlash on the fes VOD not being available? From people who weren't available but wanted to catch it later?
>>45494204physics issue actually, you can't watch everything even if you were a human experiment locked in a chamber with nothing to do but watching streams, hololive produces on average more than 1 hour of streams per hour
>>45494240
NEW REINE FISH JUST DROPPED
>>45494202I found the guitarist and bassist browsing the hashtag.https://twitter.com/rocksakurai/status/1637432943080796160https://twitter.com/y_yohske/status/1637437897791143936
>>45492970Ollie, Chama and OllieChama
>>45494258I really am. Can you blame me? There's no stream in sight.
>>45494212AAAAAAAAAA TAKE ME BACK
I made meme
https://twitter.com/Ygou_junY/status/1637444040080908288smol ame stealing the show again
Ame was so nervous during the MC, it's cute.
>>45494399*clap clap*
>>45494359It'll come out when it comes out.
>>45494178will she mention how she hit 800k during the FES?
>>45494353The entire point is to ignore schizo lunacyIf you stop yourself from posting the things you want to post because it might trigger shitposters, you're letting the shitposters win
>>45494399go back
>>4549383299% of the 5ch screencaps posted here are from "holoan", its always been that way since /hlgg/ started
>>45492970kinda tired after day1
can a fatanon tell me if i'm overestimating how much work goes into this stuff, or is this fat cat almost superhuman? she ate almost 92 meals over the two days of fes. some cats don't eat that much food in their entire existence and even if they do not all of it stays in their all-time body mass. and this cat had what, 6-7 hours to prep her stomach? and she did it flawlessly. crazy stuff.
>>45494359I’d love it, but I’m still over the moon she went with a full hype song since there was a live crowd
>>45494442AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>45494399PACHI PACHINEXT MEME
>>45494319Weak bait. They literaly love kiara
>>45494382I fucking love Reinefish and Reinesaur
>>45494178
>>45493497cutehow do i do this
>>45493950Yeah, all the "heh I'm brat" type of songs do a disservice to her actual singing ability. Her strong suit is not that.
I have lots of fun during fes, I hope you guys did too and didn't just post herr through out the event
Is Moom still gonna play that video she said would play after Fes?
>>45494375If someone says speedwatching VODs, I'm pouring their sodas down the sink.
>>45493626>Be white>Ehhh sugoi kaiginiki kakkoi ikemen desu yoGonna be good when /hlgg/ finally meets in Japan.
>>45494485didn;t read. fatto catto cute
>>45494541GIMP reps, immediately
Do you guys think JP bros argue over which JP member kaigainikkis hate the most?
Meimei a cute!
>>45494415My cute wife.Wonder if they'll ship her over to the EN Live to goof off.
>>45494539Maybe she just wants to have fun with it.
hey so does anyone here have the day 1,2, and holo27 vods for download?
>>45494359Wait for Connect the World. She'll sing city pop then.
>>45494541PLEASE be in Hartford, Connecticut
>>45494483I think that's why they put most of the talents that the more devoted Hololive fans would care about on Day 1, honestly.
>>45494579all the tortellini hate confuses them
>Went back to osu to play Bad Apple after this performance, for nostalgia sake
>>45494202>>45494384guitarist 2: https://twitter.com/misamisamisawa/status/1637444138286342145keyboard player: https://twitter.com/nyaoyan1008/status/1637073365747007494
>>45494399Did he give an update about day 2?I've been busy with mothers day so i havent been in threads for a couple of hours
>>45494579Doesn't really work because the only people that hate JPs are /hlg/ and they crib all their hate from 5ch so it's literally looking in the mirror
jwu after falling asleep right after the fes finished, what is blue journey and why doesnt the normal place have the day 2 vods
KUROE! KUROE!IROHA! IROHA!KOYORIN! KOYORIN!LUI-NEE! LUI-NEE!LAPURAS! LAPURAS!
>>45494576>>45494628>GIMPi have paint.net :)
>the japanese don’t care for you>probably the worst solo act of holofes>lukewarm reception from the audience>didn’t even tweet, shill, or support her own girls throughout the eventHow do >we save kronii? I’m quite confused because she’s the most subbed of council
>>45494566based
>>45494583CUTE!
>>45494579No they just call us jaded miserable antis and go along enjoying their anime women streams
>>45494576Not really, I used a video editor.
>>45494665gross
>>45494615Day 2 and Deco*27 ain't here yet, bud. Usual sites should have Day 1 though.
>>45494629Anon this isn’t even trying
>>45494615Day 1 on the usual site.
>>45494534
>>45493735>many of them included batshit insane or outright impossible guitar/keyboard solos.This was extremely funny when they did the MGO live and translating inotaku's music into a live band required having two drummers playing at the same time
>>45494583yeah!
>>45494364I smell good actually, I put on cologne.
>>45494583The cutest
Mori x Aqua stream when
>>45493060Cute!
>>45494579Probably, and it's probably funny how wrong they are.
>>45492970Roboco. I'm biased
>>45494650>>45470987>>45471875>>45472635>>45473212
>>45492970Better talents.You could literally just look at the lineup and tell day 1 was going to be the stronger one.
>>45494579No because this thread doesn't talk about JPs and /jp/ just copies whatever 5ch does
>>45494737Japanese music is incredible. Nothing that the west produces requires even a fraction of that kind of technical skill.
>>45494737>inotac's arrangements are so batshit insane he needed two drummers to properly play stellar stellaralso god that concert was so good, I need to rewatch it since it's quite short.
I never understood this Day1 vs Day2 stuff. Piratefags don't care either way and buyfags buy both days anyway. Only some thirdworld retards would focus on just one da-... oh I get it
>does this>won't do this in her normal outfit during the mocopi streamWhy is she blueballing us
>>45494668>overlapped archetype with Mori>has nothing to offer to JP audiences.her fault for not doing more VA-related stuff with Hololive.
Are the cumrystocrats still seething ?
>>45494648That keyboard player is a qt
thats all i had sorry theres not much art of those three together
What kind of sick fuck would actually prefer day one over day two?
ONCE AND FOR ALLWho stole the SHOW in DAY 1 and in DAY 2?Which duet-group STOLE the show in also, DAY 1 AND DAY 2?Who was the overall god tier in both days and which duo-group as well?
Love, marriage, and lewd handholding with Takanashi Kiara
>>45494837Why did no one tell Lamy had big boobies?
>Top Group Performances of Day 1 and 2OllieChamaHoloXBad AppleShion + GuraOkakoromioShiraken
>>45494839>overlapped archetype with MoriLike what? Other than her deep voice they are nothing alike
>>45494889stealing is bad
they definetely changed her anatomy a little bit legs are clearly thicker and she doesn't have that fucked up waist
>>45494802Hoomans buzzin frfr
>>45494901No
>>454930643rd fest outfit is superior desu
Aren't Lamy's lamys a bit.. too big?
>>45494889>Who stole the SHOW in DAY 1 and in DAY 2?Mumei in day 1, Bae in day 2>Which duet-group STOLE the show in also, DAY 1 AND DAY 2?Olliechama in day 1, Morys in day 2>Who was the overall god tier in both days and which duo-group as well?Kiara and Mumei were fantastic
>>45494907That's the thing, she hasn't really introduced how she's different. While it is true that there are differences, Kronii hasn't showcased them.
>>45494887people with actual taste
Mumism restored my faith in the world
>>45494889>day 1 soloRisu>day 1 groupholoX>day 2 solosuisei>day 2 groupmoona/reine/anya
>>45492970it might have been the song choice but for me I cant really point to any day 2 performance I'm really waiting to watch again whereas I had vlc open all day yesterday watching a few of them regularly throughout the day. Might change but I'm only really waiting to rewatch Mori and thats mostly because of the live band
>>45494915Anon, it's impolite to comment on a girl's figure.
>>45494915If they translated Wada's art 1:1, Kronii would be better called a Cronenberg
>>45494802Femhooman...
>>45494887Actual Hololive fans, mainly.
>>45494889>Who stole the show in Day 1Ollie>Day 2Bae>Group in Day 1OllieChama>Group in Day 2Ayame+Marine+Kanata>Overall in both daysSuisei>Overall GroupShiraken
>>45494979share the MUMEI LITTERBOX RIGHT NOW
>>45494691>>45494702oh fuck what are the usuals??? sorry for the newfag stuff
How the actual fuck did Botan find this songhttps://www.discogs.com/release/1711244-Ram-Jam-World-Feat-Lisa-Melody
>>45494382>March 8>new
>>45494915thank god
Anyone have the part where Marine let the crowd sing the chorus to maribako?
have this gfehttps://files.catbox.moe/xqghp1.mp4
>>45493060Right here Ayamefriend, I'm happy for you
>>45494889Day1 Choco, HoloXDay2 I haven't watched it yet because of a job interview
VODs doko
>>45495032Lurk a thousand more years
What were some of your guys' favorite poses?I really like the silly heart-on-head pose that Haachama and Kiara did. It's super cute even if somewhat goofy.
>>45495032warosu.org and search for "big water"
>>45494889>day 1risu>day 2marine>group day 1easily olliechama>group day 2tie between startend and ayame marine kanatan>overallprobably suisei>overall groupfuck don't make me choose
>>45495035shes old>1997yea she probably heard it while she was driving or working or doing some other adult thing
Idowlpits
>>45495104DON'T DO THIS IT CREATES HOLOX SCHIZOS
>>45494319Come on, keep searching new angles, keep embarrassing yourself over you impotence for Kiara success
Thinking about towa
>>45494887The people who actually watch more than like 3 holos pretty much unanimously preferred day 1 to day 2
>>45495115GIVE ME THE FUCKING MUMEI PERFORMANCE
>>45495032ya know, the usual, *wink* *wink*
>>45495091This heart was for me by the way
>>45495032https://lemonparty.org/
>>45495091Bae laying down on the stage and the pose she did at the end
>>45492911Well Kiara does not have a collab stream in the upcoming week, so probably not
>>45495044it just appeared in my pixiv timeline
I was actually in complete love with ID during Day 2. Holy shit each of them had such an incredible performance, especially Anya.
>>45495142so actual whores then?
I still don't get why EN got a concert before ID. Did Cover forget that Moona, Risu and Kobo exist?
>>45495173Anya was so good in the group performance. They did great.
>>45495104
>>45495173Anya too flat
do anons actually think they'll get in trouble for mentioning the most famous anime torrenting site in existence on 4chan?
>>45494795Incredibly based, I'm glad he had a good time both daystruly the chuuba watcher we should all aspire to be
>>45495126>>45494319when she appeared solo there are multiple posts calling her the best performer of last fes, they mostly just call gura cute except one guy who said her voice is degrading and she should stop drinking
Why does the Smol Ame mascot command so much star power?
>>45495153
>>45495189They saw mori can fill entire venue by herself and thought easy money
God dammit Cover, why didn't you make all idol outfits FUCKING SLEEVELESS YOU DUMB CLOSET PRUDE
>>45494889Me, I stole both shows. Now put your wallet in the bag if you don't want a hole in ya head, cuz I'm stealing it too
>>45494668She moggs bae in every single metric
>missed the bae post-concert zatsu cause of sleepFUCK
>>45495209it increases the chances of it disappearing
>>45495030>>45495158https://litter.catbox.moe/9uhpaa.mp4 mumei
>>45494889Day 1 Solo - RBCDay 1 Group - OlliechamaDay 2 Solo - BaeDay 2 group - Bad Apple trip(honorable mention to gamers meme song)
>>45495231Kobo could easily fill a stadium in Indonesia.
>>45495091like this anon said >>45495163Also Bae had no idea the camera was gonna get that angle on herhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQFZ7GuvosI
>>45495217I know you fuckers have exhausted everything you have when you bring up the fake drinking shit.
>>45495032popatochisps.cram
>>45495176Is this the new cope for being a unity-hating anti?
>>45495202>Sanner voice in a random reaction soundpostaghhhhhhhhh
>>45495279imagine the smell
>>45495091My chuuni Mori
what happens if you beat up a watamate
>>45495260Instead I fell asleep while watching itand it's a good thing, she was so cute and chill (and tired too)
>Kiara is back home>Ina is locked inside her Mythhouse room, feeling sick>Gura and Ame's whereabouts are vague>Kronii hasn't said a thing since before Fes Day 1The Japan arc is ending(?) in a weird note
I think you guys like Touhou too much. Almost all of you recognized Bad Apple in the first second of the song playing.
I like Iroha and I like Koyo and I like Luinee and I like orca and I like Lapras
>>45495209>most famous anime torrenting sitethen why doesn't that newfren know about it?
https://youtu.be/X8DuimcnAVAhttps://youtu.be/ZOCwMoiTFIQhttps://youtu.be/K8n-pGOrpzcnever knew these existed before fes
>>45495344good
>>45495209so post it then
>>45495173This. I don't remember much about Day 2 but Anya's absolutely amazing energy in her group dance and her adorable dancing and singing in her solo performance were iconic. You could really understand her personality just through those two performances alone.
>>45495334gura probably left japan before day 1 even started
>>45495234Calm down Watame
>>45495340I have literally never played a single Touhou game and I recognized it in the first second, it's just that famous
>>45495315Watame will cry for them
>>45495104Big water isn't real
>>45495340and? so what?
>>45495209tokyotoshokan...
>>45495314Oh I just remembered that she wanted her surprised face with smaller eyes. Glad to see she got them, it looks unhinged
>>45495229>NSO arc was over a fucking year ago already
>>45495340We're oldfriends, give us a break pls
Can it get 1M before the week ends?
>>45495226>Ame is the heart and soul of EN>EN is one of the most popular/influential branchesit's not exactly rocket science anon, she represents what makes hololive special
>>45495373You are telling me that everything was PRE-RECORDED?
Korone's insane horse racing song doesn't get enough talk, that was some wild shit
>>45495340i didnt know Bad Apple had anything to do with Touhou and I listened like a million times
>>45495279i dont think you want a large group of those kinds of fans
>>45494525She's had a dedicated group of JOP antis for over a decade now. The JP's who don't know about or care about her past are either indifferent or positive towards her.
>anya got boob reduction treatmentIs it a buff or a nerf?
Did Gura really have no impact on 5ch whatsoever? That's pretty rough.
Ko'one
>>45493614This.Escape while everybody is watching Holofes
>Kronii’s friends watched her live on stage and front seatHoly fucking cute
>>45495340anon you can have 0 fucking exposure to touhou and still recognize bad apple
>>45495315they cry like little bitches and call you cruel
*appears in your thread*
>>45495340never ever forget your roots, anon
When do the streams start again?
>>45495373so that means she'll stream soon right?
Ayame looks like she's ad libbing for BiBiBi's choreo. I knoe Ayame can do better than that
>>45495490that just makes me want to rape them
>>45494579We're reversed when it comes to Towa and Polka. 5ch doesn't like them, but we do.
>>45495428Korone turning both her performances into paid shitposts is incredible. Not sure anyone else in Hololive has the balls to try and the clout to pull it off.
>>45495511DO NOT RAPE WATAMATES
>>45494889>Day 1 SoloPolka or Risu>Day 1 GroupHolox or OllieChama>Day 2 SoloBae>Day 2 GroupBad Apple>Who was the overall god tier in both days and which duo-group as well?
>>45495362
>>45495451Maybe you can go through their archives and check yourself, rather than extrapolate rrats from cherrypicked screencaps of a dozen posts.
Minato Aqua.
Bros, is Hololive a cult?Isn't it illegal to feel this good about something?
>>45495340Youmu is my waifu
>>45495296im not saying its true im just saying all ENs other than Gura get unique compliments from 5ch, but Gura still just gets gura kawaii when she shows up and not much else
>>45495091
One thing I wish they did differently with the Hologra is to have Flare do a DMC pose in response, maybe use the watergun and do the jackpot
>>45495502It's only been a bit, we'll see her soon enough
>>45495615MY hoe
>>45495435fans are fans. the fact is that ID could pull a significnatly bigger audience than EN. giving a concert like this to EN is a mistake, especially in 2023. we're in a post-ID3 world now. EN is the smallest hololive branch these days.
>>45495609Cute!
>>45495625She's still larping that she likes DMC?
>>45495614Every holomem fanbase is its own cult
>>45495597I thought they didn't have archives?
>>45494889>Day 1 SoloPolka>Day 1 GroupOllie Haachama>Day 2 SoloBae>Day 2 GroupStartend
>go painting with my bro>dedicate my paibting to him >tell everybody how much he means to meThis is heterosexuel behavior
>>45495091Towa flexing.
>>45495441she might even be flat as a board, considering that the idol outfits are padded
>>45495664>GUYS PLEASE I BEG OF YOU I WORKED SO HARD PLEASE HATE HOLOLIVE
>>45495625give me a link, I don't feel like looking for the video
>>45495674no? why would flare do that
>>45495614You need to find yourself a hobby that isn't this and re-calibrate yourself.
>>45495674You're still larping that you like hololive?
>>45495664Calm down Ahmad
>>45495674Yes, but only because she's embarrassed to admit she's head-over-heels for Daddy Dante
Reminder that the band are the same band that performed last year too
Ollie cute
>>45495340I'd like to re-state there's no holo who can beat Yukari
>>45495675Not as such, but you can still read old threads for some time.
>>45495694men and women arent the same
>>45495698yeah if you compare Ina's different outfits
>>45495720Fuck off, I'm just having a bit of fun
Guess this holosong!you're breathing you're aliveOf course no one doubtsshe looks like she's breathingThe other side of life, something for meheartbeat is poundingI'll sing here without rotting even if I get hitlife at the touch of a buttonWill you remember me until the end?She seems to disappear, she knows, she knows, she knowsHow's it really going? Love and guessing are different, right?If you forget me, I won't be hereI'm dreaming like lifeSee you soon she bye byei'm breathing i'm aliveI want self-certification, I want itThe sound stopped and it stopped movingWill you laugh at me like that?heartbeat is poundingEven if you hate me, I'll sing here without rottinglife according to moodWill you see me through to the end?I feel like I'm going to wake up, understand, understand, heyI can hear your voice, so salty tears come outIf you forget me, I won't be hereI'm dreaming like lifesee you bye byeDon't play lightly on that depressed day, stop herBecause it becomes food for livingIt's okay, I'll keep singing foreverI don't know if I'm alive until the endThe words you gave me certainly remainWill you remember me until the end?When will I die? I don't know, I don't know, heyThere are times when our feelings are so synchronized that it hurtsIf you forget me, I won't be hereI'm dreaming like lifesee you bye bye
WHERE IS THE DAY 2 ARCHIVE AIEEE IT'S BEEN HOURS
>>45495775Haachama literally solos Yukari. She can simply eat the distortions of space.
sweet appetite was so much better livethe band completely mogged deco's shitty mixing
Good morning, I hate kiara
>>45495428>>45495531honestly, it was kind of disappointing for her to waste her slot like that. kind of felt like she was shitting all over the effort of the other holo members by making fun of the whole thing, which is surprising because korone is usually pretty considerate and sweet
>>45495391It looks great
>>45492970if day two didnt have my oshi olliebut it does so I cant give it to day1
>>45495775Will I still be gapped if I call her a h-
>>45495189It's all about the $. ID has the better talent, but EN brings in more money.
sora has never had a bad performance
Shhh, don’t tell the sheep about this https://twitter.com/x_fu_yu_x0/status/1637073935643865088
I really fucking love Takanashi Kiwawawawawawawawawawawawawawawawa
>>45495833??????????
>>45495823live band just makes everything better instantaneously. i learned this watching suisei's second sololive, insanely good shit.
>>45495394It was one of the Moom streams of all time
>>45495428>>45495531An anime about horse racing from 1997 mind you. It was very Mr Koro, she loves her older media
retardest take today everybody >>45495833
Does somebody have bae's day 2 performance? Im still waiting for the day2 torrent
>>45495840You need some rest, Ollie was in Day 1 and the Deco show on the second day.
I guess I'm just gonna say itame is cute and all but the hat looks dumb
>>45495923https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yC3rKsf5gFU
>>45492881I love my oshi
>>45495798No clue but gives me Polka vibes
>>45495807>>45493045
>>45495923open wide anonchamahttps://streamable.com/2vjsfq
>>45495807should of stayed up with the rest of us, sorry anon
>>45495189Maybe it's logistics, I don't think it's farfetched to think they are going to get one too eventually.
>>45495798The first and last lines make it too easy but I still love me some Inochi
>>45495189Anon forgot that blue ID mesugaki still doesn't have 3D
>>45494915Don't say anything until we see her default outfit. The idol outfits fucked with everyone's proportions.
>>45494650Isn't mother's day in may? Or am I retarded?
Gura streaming arc soon?
which Holo deserves a big Sololive, from each branch?For me it’s Watame, Kiara and Risu
>>45495984DING DING DING!
>>45495966>>>45481075 thank you vewy much anon
don't reply
>>45495890>Korone chooses a 1997 horse racing song>Botan chooses a random 1997 jpop/techno trackTHEY ARE
>>45496036To what
>>45495340>Okuu was my touhou waifu>Kiara is mi oshiI think I just have a thing for retarded fire birds
>>45496036
Which holo comes to mind when you read the words "sex goblin"?
>>45496055me :(
>>45496074Shion
>>45495798i fucking love inochi.
>>45496085Ok I won't
>>45495833She does meme songs ever Holofest newfriend. Management is just happy that she did cartwheels instead of backflips this time.
>>45496074Maline
>>45496055Stop replying to your own bait
>>45495833No way anyone actually believes this. Anyone who watched could see how much she cared and how much effort she put into her performance.
After the deco stage is it safe to say Cover wants mori to be the face of EN, especially when it comes to concert stuff?
>>45495942don't be mean, it's covering up her headhole.
>>45496074dangerous smell...
>...practice my Japanesedo yu rely belib
>>45495986she'll get it soon. kobo is only a few weeks or months away from being the second-highest subbed holo and she might even be the highest subbed by the end of the year.
>>45496051HAGS
>>45495798That part of the show was fun. Impressed by Kiara recognizing kira kira's lyrics
Just because they shake and gyrate their hips and give you a raging boner doesn't mean that they're sex goblins
>>45496074IRyS
>>45496074The sheep
>>45496134What type of reply is ''don't reply'' baiting
>>45495833This is the worst opinion I've seen all week, you deserve a flogging
>>45496205baffling post
>>45496153kek
>>45496136Mori would do a stage concert every week if she could. I'm pretty sure she just wants to be and the other aren't bothered
>>45495833Anon, Holofes isn't about flashy singing and flashy dancing all of the time.Korone's performance was still fun as fuck
>>45496151About as much as I believe Pekora when she said she's gonna learn english.
>>45495833
I want Korone to do a Flash Kick
>Rewatching the Bad Apple performance>That fucking pop off when everyone saw the Apple and music started playingHow can one song be so fucking timeless it's crazy.
>>45496270>almost twice as many subs as the highest subbed holoX membershe's gaining subs at an insane pace.
>>45494983>I cant really point to any day 2 performance I'm really waiting to watch againthis is my problem with day 2 as well, none of the performances were really memorable. day 1 was just kino from start to finish, while day 2 halfway through I felt like I was just watching because I paid to and might as well get my money's worth
>>45496274Pekora's english is 1000x better than Gura's 日本語。
>>45495614Why are you worried
>be white>show up to a concert>everyone loves you>get fanart made about youI thought you said white people were the niggers of japan?
https://twitter.com/gawrgura/status/1637560038242787331https://twitter.com/gawrgura/status/1637560038242787331https://twitter.com/gawrgura/status/1637560038242787331
https://twitter.com/gawrgura/status/1637560038242787331
https://twitter.com/gawrgura/status/1637560038242787331https://twitter.com/gawrgura/status/1637560038242787331
>>45496151The same as JP members with their english lessons
>>45495833This one was definitely made by a bot
Do not open this link. You will get emotional whiplash.https://litter.catbox.moe/mxkm8f.mp4
>>45494889D1 Solo RobocoD1 Group HoloXD1 Solo KoroneD2 I guess I liked Bad Apple
>>45495614No, it's like overarching Christianity to denominations
>>45496366the nigerians that plague roppongi and kabukicho are the niggers of japan.
>>45495926deco doesnt count
>>45496369>>45496372>>45496379>>45496389schizo massacre
>>454963172hus invented being a otaku
>>45496405Read both posts.
>>45496347My favourite Kiara pic
>>45496369>>45496372>>45496379>>45496379But what game?
>>45496369>>45496372>>45496379>>45496389Schizoretardgod status???
>>45496366I thought the chinese were the niggers of japan
>>45496389RE4, i'm guessing.
>>45496369>This weekendThe weekend is already over...
>>45495344Based
With stinko she means me btw
>>45496389>>45496379>>45496372>>45496369SCHIZO DONT LOOK
>>45496369>>45496372>>45496379>>45496389RE4RE4RE4
>>45496369>>45496372>>45496379>>45496389nice. what fotm game will she play?
>>45496366>get memed to hell because you stand out in a way yes
>>45496366Of all races, white people generally have it pretty good in Japan
>>45496151>just full on english while MCingWhy is she like this?
>>45496369>>45496372>>45496379>>45496389does she mean today, or no streams until next saturday?
>>45496237Don't let her looks fool you, she totally gonna rape every holo member if given even a tiny bit of chance
>>45496369>>45496372>>45496379>>45496389Why does she call us smelly? I practice good hygine :(
>>45496480She lives in Europe now, and it's midnight on Monday.
>>45495833bot
>>45496395Goddammit, I feel empty now.
>>45496483Post armpit stains or I won't believe you
>>45496369>>45496372>>45496379>>45496389RE:4 100%.
Why isn't anyone talking about Holo*27 though? The girls were great
>>45496558deco is a hack. the girls were cute though.
RE4 WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
grm ggsr........
>>45495890>>45496051BUT IF YOU CLOSE YOUR EYEShttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uPjLotu5j9Y
>>45496369>>45496372>>45496379>>45496389OHNONONONONONO BOTBROS YOUR RESPONSE?
>>45496395>played for half a second before buffering indefinitelyganbatte, catbox-kun
>>45496369I ALWAYS BELIEVED ToT
>>45496274
>>45495833I'm sorry the middle aged woman playing a cartoon dog didn't take things seriously enough for you
>>45496558I really really really liked Flare's cover.
I couldn't even get proper sleep but I woke up with so much energy and I just really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really miss Fauna now. I can't take it.
>>45496558Probably because we knew all the songs and pairings so there weren't many surprises
I hope its not re4 there's already a 12 hour stream that's gonna happen before the game is even our for her
>>45496366Hololive's fanbase are a microcosm of east-west contact and their acceptance of foreigners is absolutely not reflective of their society at large.It's sort of like how western anime fans are pretty tolerant of japanese but if you look asian in a 7/11 in the US, a fat lady in joggers is going to scream for you to go back to chyna.
I am starting to feel depressed now that Fes is over, what the hell is this?
>>45496369>>45496372>>45496379>>45496389>This weekendBut it's sunday already...
>>45496558They were indeed. Kanata, Chloe, Kiara, Mumei and Mori were my favourites
Korone saying "HEY GUYS" to the fes audience was very cute.
So am I allowed to say how much of a letdown Gura's japan arc was now or is it still too soon
WHY DOES SHE CALL ME A STINKOI TOOK A SHOWER LAST WEEK
>>45496369>>45496372>>45496379>>45496389fucking bullshit. she's going to cancel and/or ghost, screencap this
>>45496715>LAST WEEKEww
>>45496707You've been saying it for 19 hours a day since she got to Japan.
>>45496500Diablo IV
>>45496328At her current pace she would need at least four years to catch up to Gura.
>>45496725>>>/vt/catalog
>>45496530SWEDENWEDEN
She means next weekend btw.
>>45492970Day 1 was more consistently good. Day 2 was up and down all over the place but had great highs.
>>45496395can someone tell me what this is, I dont want to sit here waiting for it to buffer
>>45496641>>45496655really really reallymind
>>45496558I slept through it so I'd be well rested for parade day 2 because I didn't care much for the deco*27 stuff to begin with and it seemed like there wasn't much worth going back and watching
>>45496759Can Gura even consume a single KFC Double Down for access?
Schizos keep losing holy shit Gura won, Mori won, Kiara won, Kronni won, EN won, Hololive won
>>45496679She’s probably talking about RE4. It’s Monday in Japan so if she leaves today or tomorrow that gives her a few days to recover from jetlag and stuff
>>45496707You're allowed to suck my dick, and nothing else.
And there we go the Japan arc is done and my oshi dodged the fuck out of her. Bless
Did the myth girls leave Japan already? The fuck are all the off collabs? I thought ame and gura were going to off collab. WTF happened?
>>45496558Chloe's song is stuck in my head
>>45496776>Day 2 was up and down all over the place but had great highsthe highs were amusing but they weren't really memorable desu
>>45496424>>45496468>>45496486>>45496608>celebrating one more week of no streamAbsolutely mindbroken kek
more one week without Gurayikes
What song did Shiraken sing in holofes again? I wanted to listen to it again
>>45496558Lack of surprises leaves less of a lingering impression on top of being a more samey playlist since it's all from one guy who recycles his own song motifs constantlyDefinitely were some great performances though, MioKoyo, LamyLui, Flare, and Chloe were highlights for me along with all the ENs + Ollie
>>45496778both days' closing sequence synced up
>>45496707>too soonYou've been saying it for a month tho.
>>45496369>>45496372>>45496379>>45496389GURA WITH THE UPSET FUCK YOU BITCHES >>45493055 >>45492903
I've been lurking for days but these generals don't have header posts or anything- how am I supposed to glean any of the usual sites from anywhere if they're never actually posted? I'm not joining a fucking discord.
>>45496814>my oshiYou admitted to not watching the concert last night, you can switch characters now.
>>45496835I thought with weekend she meant tonight? Is she talking about the next weekend?
>>45496788It was the same quality as the main Fes concerts. You're missing out.
>>45496707yeah, she barely even met any of the JP members despite being there for months.
>>45496792Hololive love!
>>45496824Mori, IRyS and Kronii are the only ones still in Japan.
>>45496792HOLOLIVE WON BIG AND THE ANTIS ARE EVEN MORE ON DESPAIR THAN BEFORE
>>45496824No anon they're performing a special 3rd day fes to me
>>45496791She can ration it over the course of a week it's fine
>>45496861What upset? It's an entire week until Gura's next stream.
>>45496153Gura could gain no subs and it would still take Kobo at least 3 years at her pace
This Fes confirmed teabrats are the strongest race
>>45496859Oh yeah I'm sure I'm the only person who feels this way and none else.
>>45496814Who did /hlgg/ dodge?
>>45496791next weekend is open betabut to answer your question, no way in hell a girl her size could handle that much grease
why do you keep uploading clips on shitbox.moe instead of streamable? it's so fucking slow
>>45496871it's monday in japan.
>>45496074irys
Yab
>>45496864You really think some forced mc section counts. Ahahahahah it was obvious since all or myth did it. Fuck off
>>45496825it's the best song
>>45496862This is a good try but you need to be a bit less obvious if you want to really farm (You)s
>>45496761she gained 2m subs in one year. it wouldn't take her 4 years to double that.
>>45496655Same but replace "miss" with "want to have sex with"
>>45496968You are my favorite dancing monkey
>>45496862Literally all you need to do is watch streams on YouTube. The threads are highly receptive to answering questions too
So when's the next yab? Holofes was the calm before the storm, right sisters?
>>45496941streamable quality is shit
>>45496918How did he become a meme outside of here?
>>45496977Anon, Gura got 2mil in 4 months, its not even close.
>>45496977Ogey
>>45496977Anon you can't numberfag if you're that bad at numbers
>>45497026Other people were also watching Holofes
>>45496977She gained a lot early on, but her pace has slown down significantly since then.
>>45492700Mori Love!
How is Lapu so good? I'm rewatching Day 1 and she's just holy shit. The singing, dancing and hyping up the crowd mid song
>>45496862Keep asking, eventually a troll will spoonfeed you to piss people off.
>>45497042tell that to /#/ lmao
>>45497003Alright then nice, still doesn't change facts
>>45497026JOPs love white guys with funny faces
>>45496855ok fine i'll download it
Yeah I think kronii should just stick to streaming because she’s not fit to be an idol
>>45497078brat needs correction
>>45496369>>45496372>>45496379>>45496389>gura's japan arc ended alreadyStill zero JP offcollab btw
>>45497016No yab from the girls at least. People will just complain about the lack of streams despite everyone in Myth being back at home.
>>45497078She wanted to send a message
What happened to Geoguesser? Did Ame and Gura have a fight?
>>45497147kill yourself, fubuki avatarnigger
>>45497147She had 1 with oozora police but thats it
>>45497188yeah, with me
>>45496761Yeah Kobo would need a miracle to beat Gura within a year lmao. Once Gura starts streaming again there's no way in hell she'll ever do that
>>45497188Yes, they had a catfight, streamed for T5 members
>>45497188gura probably just didn't hold up her end
>ywn have cute plusmate to hug
>>45497188Yeah, fight with my cock. They lost.
>>45496862https://nyaa.si/view/1650298 just to piss people off
>>45497147The entire Japan arc for every myth girl except Kiara sucked. The LA arc is going to suck too.
>>45497228sorry...
Is there a torrent for day 2 yet? Nothing on nyaa
Whats the most cringe mc section this fes?I love her but i put mooner in a very high place especially at the deco concert
>>45497206No don’t say that he will argue hours on end about how she actually wasn't there and that she hates Hololive.
>>45497246>The LA arcThey are not going to that shithole, there is no arc for that, they either did the recordings in Japan, or they're doing them at home.
>>45496977Kobo hasn't even hit 2M yet, she still has 100k more to go. Gura hit 2 million in less than a year and her momentum has obviously significantly slowed down since then. You think the same isn't gonna happen to Kobo, whose momentum has already slowed down considerably compared to her peak?
>>45494583Cute and sexy.
>>45497188Same reason why a rainforest and bone bros collab didnt happen
>>45497268Ame and Moona for sureThey tried and I'm proud of them though
>Hololive English 1st Concert>no Miko on the lineup, despite the tokyo tourism commission calling her EN
>>45497147They went to japan to record shit, not to collab with JPs.
have (You) ever made your oshi cry ugly, anon?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGac_SgSgqU
Did the bonebros segment ever get put on a catbox? I’ve been waiting for the vod to archive to rewatch it but it’s taking a long while
>>45496835Wait she means next week?
>>45497244I don't care, but I'm flabbergasted by the amount of people that don't know this site. Just how many vtuber fans arent/weren't weebs?
Just caught up in the EN Holospy collab. What exactly is IRyS's malfunction?
>>45496792ホロライブ最強!
>>45497188Yeah, no chemistry or myth unity. It's dead for 2 years now. They are just co workers. Almost 2 months in Japan and they couldn't even bother to schedule something with each other.
>>45497268Ame's Japanese made me take off my headphones
Why wait until the weekend if she's already back home
>>45497399she's retarded
>>45497342Does someone have any clips of the Jimmy lad? Somehwat I completely missed it.
>>45497428Technically she said gaming. She could do a chatting stream before that.
>>45497428You should already know by now gura isn't in a hurry to stream
>>45497383nta but I always would rather watch stuff online
>>45497399Bad case of being a dum dum
>>45497420I don't understand what you talking about.t.kfp.
>>45497342my oshi hasnt suffered hardships like aki
>>45497188They should've just said it wasn't happening anymore instead of giving fans false hopes, man. This sucks.
>>45497412AYY
>coupons don't work now.>resort to using AI botsHoly shit, Nijiniggers have been too desperate.
>>45497399I woke up after it, is it worth going back to watch it ?
>>45493127
>>45497252You make my day better Irohasu-poster
>>45497428>>45497478And you have proof of her being home?
reminder that this actually happened
>>45497420Quaso
>>45497188They had a fight after Gura caught Ame and Ina kissing
My dreams of a last wish watchalong... crushed like chicken bones under the boot of reality...
>>45497510Watch Ame make up some lame excuse like she "forgot."
>>45497421At least she didn't chicken out like some girls that don't speak JP did
>>45497268Ame or Moona but it was cringekino for me
Gura isn't even real she's just an advanced AI ever since her clone program failed, that's why she can't off collab
>>45497428She needs to visit her family and pick up her cat.
I just woke up, did that guy eat his cum?
did anyone actually enjoy day 2?seems like it was surprisingly unpopular here
Hidid anyone record Korone's shitpost horse song
>>45497479I don't see the logic behind announcing it this way
>>45497607purse
>>45497591Gura forgetting is a possibility yeah
>>45497626I fucking loved it way more than day 1, but day 1 had Amelia so its hard to say
>>45497567i used to post them more frequently but ive had something else on my mind as of late
>>45497636Well if she does a member stream before the gaming stream she would announce that in a member post so that’s always a possibility
>>45497348Someone did. Search the archive
>>45497591That's assuming they're gonna aknowledge it at all
>>45497617The cumrystocrat bailed
>>45497626Most people are too busy shitposting
>>45497188>>45497325Was it really that difficult for them?No, seriously, what was stopping them?
>>45497627https://litter.catbox.moe/eq9oio.mp4dozo
>>45497626Day 1 had more Myth members so the fanbases could be over represented in this thread. I liked Day 2 just slightly more but both were ultra kino
>>45497626nah I fucking hated it, worst day ever
>>45497626It was incredible, but I can only say that so many times
>>45497705fucking coward. He has given up the rights to his dick and balls
>>45497626I liked it, but I was more hype for my oshi in Day 1/Deco*27
>>45493012Nothing! It's just a girl counting down!
>>45497428RE4 release
>>45496558The setlist was effectively out in advance so there's no element of surprise outside of order. That said, I'm happy Moona got Otome Dissection and MSKR got a cover from Flare. Chloe's hip sway is doing things to my dick. For me personally, it's because Deco's discography got samey to me after Vampire outside certain songs with vocalists such as Akkanbe and Marionette.
>>45497325>while Kiara managed to have atleast one 1on1 offcollab with every other Myth girlChimkin I kneel
Can we talk about the elephant in the room?The fuck is wrong with IRyS' model? Can't smile, stuck in a painful facial expression, height looks wrong, theres no lip synch, etc
>>45497626is this some bad attempt at gaslighting? day 2 was the best one btw
>>45493127Am I the only one or does Mori's wrist look super paper thin. Now that I am noticing it, her movement was also kinda...I think the right word is not tracked properly. The Morys dance was a bit stiff(or not captured properly) on Mori 's side.Still a kino performance. I just fucking hoped they did better tracking and the mixer didn't fuck up her singing. Still the best performance in En personally but I really hoped that it was as good as last years. I am sorry for my autistic tangent. I loved Holofest and Mori and Bae were my standouts
>>45497551Editing had some weird quirks but overall it was pretty fun, I think it's worth it
>>45497626It doesn't matter, i would just automatically enjoy any day that my oshi perform
>>45497147Yeah, that is one thing I was really disappointed about. You go to Japan and might never go again as apart of Hololive and you don't do any damn off collabs with jp members? I bet you she talks about it and says "I wanted to do it but I was too nervous, now I regret it." She had an opportunity with the Subaru police thing but she chickened out
>>45497688Naruhodo, hope you're feeling okay friend
>>45497830It was rushed because irys had her model changed. Give them some credit
>>45497583
>>45497869maybe her bowels were acting up that day
>>45497830She deserves this for an annoying fandom so it checks out.
>>45497626You joking? Day 2 had a shitton of hype
>>45497830She was constantly staring upwards. I think she just be like a full foot shorter than her design
>>45497750How can anyone not love Korone, every time I open this and see her appear, immediately start galloping, and then the banjos come in I get a big goofy smile on my face
>>45497869she recroded with marine, pekora, and shion tho
>>45497188Ame probably wanted to do it but Gura was probably paranoid it would give away her location in Japan lol.
>>45497812Makes no sense to wait for RE4 to start streaming again, especially when she talked about wanting to stream other games like Hi-Fi Rush.
>>45497886im okay dont worry i just think i need to wait more and not rush things even though im impatient
>>45497869>might never go againThey're gonna be back there before the year's over, you fucking schizo.
>>45497626it was OK but it just kind of dragged on, I think most people had their expectations set too high by day 1 and so it ended up being kind of a letdown for the majority of posters here.nothing wrong with it if you enjoyed it, though
>>45497626Mori and Gura are in, so alot were seething.
>>45497926Ok, besides IRyS, Korone and Bae(possibly Gura as well) which performer stood out?
>>45497956Or they'll give some lame excuse like "it doesn't have to be an offcollab we'll just do it later."
>>45497188Ame was treaming pretty regularly while in japan and she hung out with most EN just fineGura on the other hand...
>>45497869>might never go again as apart of Hololive???
>>45497947>How can anyone not love KoroneI think everyones a little bit of a dogfuckerI especially am I want to fuck the shit out of her
>>45497206She wasn't with Subaru, Ina and Bae. Bae said only her and Ina were there.
>>45497830She's a mouthbreather and her model reflects that
>>45497827There was no Ametori off-collab though
>>45497626 Post the better Bocchi
>>45497973She still has to get home and probably recover from jetlag
>>45497830>Can we talk about the elephant in the room?Mori is here?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-qKY5aR9gIWhat the fuck did I just watch?
>>45497911>ISRAEL
>>45498012marine, korone, towa, suisei, kanata.bad apple trio, gamers (minus friend) and startend were fucking good too.
look at this
>>45498054Nice
>>45497988Bullshit. Kiara said it would be a long time before she gets to do stuff like that again
>>45497743That's what I want to know the most. Ame at most said she was gonna ask Gura "if she had time this week" at some point, and then they never brought it up again.
This thread reeks of 13 year old catalogfags.
>>45497270Anon, Bae confirmed it was only her and Ina there
>>45498016>Most ENDidn’t Ame only collab with Ina in Myth?
look at these cute birdshttps://files.catbox.moe/krcmug.mp4
>>45498050You are right. I guess Ame was very busy during this trip
>>45497246>Sukiyaki Girls>Zetame>BaInamerys Mario PartyCould have been more but all the ones she did were kino so speak for yourself please.
>>45498095is it true that those suisei dolls are worth 8000 dollars
>>45498000Anon Gura's performance was good but Mori...I will just leave it at that.Dancing was alright, I expected more from her, singing was ughh, better than expected but still not near the top 5 of En and the song overall was made shit thanks to the technician
>>45498012all the duets were amazing, better than day 1 overall that only had one hype one, granted that one was the god tier olliechama
>>45497626It wasn't "bad" or a "failure" by any stretch, the people who are saying that are exaggerating. It just didn't have the charm factor that Day 1 had, everything felt like they played it too safe and the end result suffered from a lack of identity/memorability.
>>45498074Everyone will become Lamy, we're all on our blue journey together.
>>45498054That's very rude of Iroha, I'll have to punish her for that with my penis
Sex?
>>45497830>worst model>gets mogged by bae in ccv nowNot a good week for irys....
>>45498125Was mumei the genuine worst dancer at holoFES? her singing was good thoEven Luna has better moves and she has glass bones
>>45497270watch streams retardchad
>>45498138And I forgot Iname like a retard.
>>45497399IRyS realized that was her only shot to take the crown as dumbest in EN and she went all in
>>45498145its more like $400 dollars but yeah shes the most pricey and then its towa/marine/aqua in the next tier
>>45497147Expectation>Gura is gonna get rape by the whole JP branch!Reality>Most JP pretty much ignored her outside of working for events
>>45497626KORONE AMAZINGGURA CUTEOKAYU COOL
>>45498095i fucking love startend bros.
>>45498192thats crazy
Torrent for day 2?
>>45498056>She still has to get homeThat doesn't take an entire week>probably recover from jetlagI've watched youtubers and streamers for years and I've never seen one use jetlag as an excuse to not stream/upload
>>45498209gura would have been much, much better if she didn't do meme-tier eurobeat
very disappointed in mio, was expecting something big from her after last year
>>45498138>Sukiyaki GirlsCan you really count that? That was the previous Japan trip.
>>45498012I'm just going to say senchouAlso the duets were top tier
>>45498125Cute and cool!
>>45498176yeah
My orange woman is very cute and wifeable.
>>45498168Charm is quickly being run into the ground. I have to wonder if it’s the same poster
How do you guys handle your holo intake while having a job?Things were pretty easy when I was still a hikineet and now I barely have the energy to watch.Plus timezone wise the best streams were always around 2-3am or noon.Watching the vods or clips doesn't feel the same.Why did I have to get a job?
>>45498200why would the JPs care about the runt of a sidebranch?
>>45498174This but punshi her armpits with my dick
>>45498224suisei was already really popular and it being turned into a form of a joke and how suisei uses it a lot really made it pricey the other ones are just pure fan demands
>>45498200That was obvious from day 1 since gura has had 1 jp 1 on 1 collab in over 2 and a half years
>>45498094>marineSame problem as Mori>koroneMentioned her >towaHer last year's performance was much better >kanataOk, I will agree with this>suiseiShe underperformedThe groups were alright but day 1 group were better
>>45497147she offcollabed with me in bed, good enough.
>>45495621What else is there to say about Gura?
>>45498168how the fuck can you say this after both songs korone performed in?
Looking back at this japan arc kiaras fe myth hangaout was probably my favorite stream
>>45498168>charm>identity>memorabilitytranslation: my oshi was in day 1
>>45498276I can watch at work.
>>45498243Anon both Mumei and Fauna had to take a few days off after coming back because of jetlag
>>45498273What a pitslut
>>45497626>weday 2 was fucking amazing what are you on? Mainly because they had most CouncilRyS members and people were genuinely curious to see how they would perform in 3D. And oh boy Bae fucking delivered.
HiRyS!Good "Morning"How are we feeling?
>>45498242bot post
>>45498351>weThread is absolutely terrible.
>>45497626The solo performances were great, kinda eh on the group performances except for Bad Apple and Gurashion.
>>45497626they played it too safe for day 2 IMO, lacked the charm of day 1
>>45497947Korone was great but I can get why some people were at least partly disappointed. Not necessarily because she chose to shitpost on a paid event but because she did it twice, with the other being gamers. Like she did great, it was hilarious, but I get it. You wait a year to enjoy a big idol concert, you pay money to watch it and you end up with 2 shitposts
>>45498337I guess I don't watch those two much, first time I'm hearing about that.
>>45498351Did you eat cum yet ?
>>45497812>gura will only stream on major game releasesSo, next stream is starfield?
>>45498302>shion>lui
>>45498337I mean they both tried to stream through it too.
>>45498291do you have all of them or just the towa one
>>45498276Simply have a job where you can work at home, bonus points if it's a government contractor so there's also never any work to do
>>45405271I have rtx and updated my drivers but this option still isn't here...
>>45497626idk you guys were going wild for day 2
>>45498351Tired but happyWork sucks dick right now but it was worth it
>>45498316Honestly that's really what I wanted out of myth off collab arc (with better audio of course)
The day 1-fags are the people who support teams just because they're underdogs.Objectively, Day 2 was the main event. It's the same thing in Wrestlemania, anyone who thinks Day 1 is more important, is coping.
Does anyone have all the Day 2 performances?
>>45498381You probably don't watch anybody and you just came in here from the catalog to kick up your boots and shitpost.
>>45498370How did you not love the MorIRyS one? is was almost perfect.
>>45498346Even in councilrys, IRyS and Bae were the only ones. And Bae's trio performance was a let down because of Fauna and Kronii.So technically, only IRyS had an amazing event as Mori somehow made her a better singer
>>45498316Yeah, because thats the entire point of big offcollab trips, the feeling of the girls being friends and hanging out togetherWHICH WE GOT ALMOST FUCKING NONE OF, actually yeah I need to go schizo for a secondYou're absolutely right, A FUCKING FIRE EMBLEM STREAM was the best stream of the offcollab arc, the past TWO FUCKING MONTHS. A FIRE EMBLEM STREAM. THINK ABOUT THATBECAUSE IT WAS SOME ACTUAL ORGANIC FRIENDSHIP AND HANGING OUT, WHY IS THIS SUCH AN IMPOSSIBILITYTHEYVE BEEN IN JAPAN FOR MONTHS NOW, A LONG FUCKING TIME, AND HALF THE TIME THEY LIVED IN THE GODDAMN SAME HOUSEAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
>>45498393i dont have any sadly i wouldve had to import and thats really annoying so i didnt bother and i dont want to secondhand buy right now cause its pricey
>>45498432Don't care for the song
>>45498390Yeah but then they did anyway
>>45498376bot posteverybody liked the change of pace she did
>>45405271>((((Chrome))))no thanks
>>45498168>>45498372this a bot?
>>45498412Stone Cold mogged Roman/Brock #3563 last year
>>45498306>Same problem as MoriI don't know what that means>Her last year's performance was much betterdisagree>She underperformedyou think? in any case I can excuse her since she's been having throat issues and she has her birthday concert in like 3 days, so taking a step back after already having all the attention from her surprise appearance on day 1 is fine by me.
>>45494687>>45494576>>45493497>>45494541okay i downloaded da vinci resolve, found out it doesnt support gif, tried turning the gif into mp4 and removing the background with keyer but it didnt work so i had to figure out how to split the transparent gif into images but then it didnt want to accept the thing as an image sequence so i had to change the option and then it still wasnt accepting the broken up gif as a sequence so i had to figure out that it only accepts it if it has a similar name?? i still dont get it but i just renamed them all to 1 so the computer spat out the files as 1 (2), 1 (3), etc and it finally accepted it as an image sequence , then tried to turn it into a webm only to realize that it has an audio track so i rerendered and remade into a webmall for this stupid flipim not cut out for this shit, idk how people do this for a living
>>45498276Watch a couple hours of comfy VODs in bed before going to sleep. That to me is peak CGDCT content. If anything this shithole and fucking up my sleep schedule to try and catch most streams live ruined my enjoyment of Vtubers.
>>45498412Day 1 had olliechama though
>>45498119UOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHH
>>45495115why is this webm green and broken?
>>45498328no, I'm a unityCHAD who enjoyed day 1 more as a whole, not just my oshi being in day 1
What the fuck, Cover. It's been over 12 hours
>>45498449yeah i agree thats a lot of money but i hope towa gets a hololive friends version too suisei has one but i like the original one a bit better
>>45498376t. Not a Koronesuki hence your opinion is worth shit
>>45498351Very good, and still feeling the leftover hype from this morningNow I'm just playing games before Moom and waiting for the day 2 VOD to go up so I can grab it and rewatch the whole thing
>>45498180I thought Fauna was a hair worse, but it's a tossup
>>45498441Kiara wanted to do more of that, but then you have autists like Ina that wouldn't let her get in their room because it's a fucking pigsty
YOU HAVE 5 SECONDS TO POST YOUR OSHI'S FAVORITE FOOD.
>>45498382When will deadbeats stop seething. I am neither an IRystocrat nor a deadbeat but this forced meme seems annoying now. Don't overdo it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-tlBElXTF_AKAWAII
>>45498316I just want it to end already. The girls haven't been streaming normally for over a month and a half now.
>>45498441You're right
>>45498471Yes, “charm” and “memorable” give it away, he’s been at it all day
>>45498441It was a business trip in the end, cant really blame them for that
I doubt /hlgg/ would ever agree with me on this but honestly the most iconic performance to me as Ollie/Haachamathey absolutely stole the show, they SCREAMED they were singing so intensely, and they completely uplifted the mood after the huge string of slow songsLike you can argue singer power levels all you want, but those two had the most iconic performance to me
Personally, I think that Ina
>>45498524
>>45498316ina/lamy was easily the best, not that there's much competition.
>>45498391Sorry 2 then doesn't exactly chnage much does it. She's never really interacted or tried to mingle compared to everyone else and that fine. She can he happy with just en
>>45498441basedI'm also kind of irritated overall at the Japan arc
>>45498276You watch VODs
>>45498276I work a government job where there’s a lot of downtime and waiting for stuff to do, so my boss doesn't mind if we have our headphones in to listen to music of podcasts while we work.
>>45498497You have viruses in your computer
>>45498429I watch Kiara, and she's been streaming through every excuse people give for Gura not streaming.
>>45498200Most JP just don't care about ENThere's no malice, just ignorance
>>45498509me too there hasnt been any towa plush or figure stuff so im hoping that changes with the nendoroid and im really looking forward to that cause i love nendoroids
>>45498524Sweet potatoes.
>>45498478The backing vocal track was not there for both Marine's and Mori's solo
>>45498503ARE THEY TRYING TO FIX THE MUTED PART OF EN OR THE MUTE WAS ONLY IN THE PIRATED VER?
I've been at work since Day 2 ended, why is the VoD for Day 2 not available and why is the DECO VoD still not available?
>>45498526Anon, don't agree to bets where you can't honor them.
>>45498441>entire point of big offcollab tripsThis was not an offcollab trip, you retard. They were all there specifically to record as much shit as they can for all the concerts they are part of.
>>45498526Ah so you haven't go back
>>45498441The truth-lie one was good too but yeah apart from that one, none of the other offcollabs really stood out
>>45498501>not justyeah, I thought so, at least admit your biases instead of coping with terms like "memorability"
:3
>>45498480nice flip
>>45498544the slow songs were kino, though. no need to be acting like cheerleaders on meth all the time
>>45498601I see. that's not on her though and she performed excellently in spite of that.
Can we agree La+ had the best solo performance and Olliechama had the best group performance?
>>45498480I was thinking of starting my video editing reps too and try to make some cool OCs. Is DaVinci resolve the best option for that?
>>45498585Kiara also streams the most in EN regardless. Why do you care if you wouldn’t watch Gura anyway?
>>45498607what muted part???
>>45498544No, I agree, the Olliechama duet was amazing and definitely a stand-out performance for day 1I cried over Ollie's performanceBoth days
Suzy broke the rules and got away with it
>>45498524Korone loves to eat up fatcat
>>45498585Sure you do.No fanbase war for you.
>>45498441If the answer seems very clear to you then it's probably the simple truth: Holomyth aren't super good friends with each other, they're more like friendly co-workersNot going /vt/sister THEY HATE EACH OTHER or dumb shit like that, but if they were genuine close friends they'd simply do stuff together more, proof is in the pudding
So can IRyS actually get the vsinger live treatment now?
>>45498642>best solo performancebae
>>45498524I don't have a picture of blueberries
>>45498412>more people watched day1>/vt/ was overall faster on day 1 Day2fag coping
>>45498685no
>>45498627you have to at least admit that day 1 had much better pacingyou will at least agree to that, right?
>>45498524her girlfriend is offtopic im sorry
>>45498610Kfp literaly in fucking shambles, seetheing, malding and having a breakdown
>>45498672No: Suisei -asked- if she could break the rules and they allowed her because literally all the other girls genuinely don't know they can just ask for shit.
>>45498595you have the bibi plushie though rightt
>>45498680Posts with Reine images seem to suck a lot of the time.
>>45498693La+ was more iconic
>>45498680More like because of the certain actions of some schizos, Myth has chosen to spend their friendly times, privately.
>>45498685How does she have a broken face IN A PRE RECORDED CONCERTDID NO ONE REVIEW THE DATA???? YOU CAN LITERALLY EDIT THAT LATER ON AND THEY JUST DIDN'T
>>45498642>can we agree>asking that in /hlgg/rorurumao
>>45498616They were there for months, multiple weekends. I find it pretty hard to believe that they couldn't make time for more.This is just another way of me saying that I'm not getting over Ame and Gura teasing an off-collab right to our faces multiple times only to not follow up on it, or even aknowledging it that it was a thing they said.
>>45498680Do all the dinners or the MorInaGura Onsen trip or the TakaMori spa day and painting or the GurAme arcade or Mori staying at Ina’s hotel in December not count?
>>45498685I couldn't imagine my oshi being shackled by the vsinger title. I'm gonna puke
>>45498685No. She flopped hard and somehow reclined so much that bae is more popular now
>>45498441This is why kiara prefers niji girls nowadays
>>45498716Uhhhh? >>45498411
>>45498733In a company of autists, the asperger is king
>>45498736i didnt get the really big one at the time because i was too poor but for the 1 million anniversary im getting the smaller version one when it comes in
>>45498612>>45498617Like I said, this meme is unironically getting way more traction then it deserves. And honestly I don't care about that IRyStocrat, but you all are actually making it difficult for the other IRyStocrats in this thread who just want to enjoy here. You guys do the same thing with saplings here so it's not surprising for me. Anyways, don't start acting like the very thing you hate.
>>45498753all i remember from her performance was her huge head.
>>45498672Well no shit, who exactly is gonna complain about more Suzy?
I'M SO FUCKING PROUD OF GURA BROSThis whole Japan trip has been nothing but great. I couldn't even have dreamed of asking for SameTori to get closer before but now they can't stop talking about each other.So proud of Gura for learning so many choreographies, dancing and singing on stage for us and even keeping up with the ABSOLUTE SORCERESS OF A DANCER that is Bae in their duet.So proud of her for daring to go off the beaten path and doing a duet with Shion and NAILING IT TOO.Literally moved me to tears to see her and Nene exchanging smiles during Our Bright Parade. An unforgettable moment.She went out of her way at every step and I cannot wait to see where the future takes her.What made you proud of your oshi this weekend, /hlgg/?
>>45495340I barely know what touhou is. I still recognized bad apple instantly. Good songs transcends their origins.
>>45498745Proof?
>>45498480>>45498647Just use Shotcut, free open source and simple enough for a beginner, you're making shitpost webms, Davinci is a production film editor.Alternatively the last non subscription version of Vegas is on Humble Bundle right now for $20, that's very easy to use too.
>>45498786Yes, and they recorded nearly all that time, as they have repeatedly said themselves. Have you been paying attention?
ding dong
>>45498441Not sure why anyone thinks EN offcollabs are ever going to produce more than a trickle of hangout streams. Kiara is the only one who wants to get that kind of thing on stream, but she burned out trying to make other girls do things back in 2021. The rest are at best indifferent to the idea of streaming an offcollab without some kind of narrow purpose, and that's before we get to the girls who hate not having their stream personality up on camera.
>>45498801fucking kill yourself elirayou will never be a holo, or even a decent vtuber
>>45498716This is literally factually wrong though. We were faster on Day 2.
>>45498720>5 ballads in a rowmeh, they both had about the same hype dropoff in the middle
>>45498647>is it good for startingno idea but its freeid recommend looking up youtube videos, when i was making really simple vids with vegas pro years ago it wasnt that hard to make a small clip but this gave me a billion options right away so its kinda overwhelmiing
>>45498789YesIt must be steamed live for my entertainment
>>45498834THATS MY FUCKING IDOL RIGHT THERE
ATTENTION BIG YABhttps://youtu.be/CWCaIKiwU3U?t=10263
>>45498815>I'm not himSuuure.
>>45498441t.chumbieOther fanbase are satisfied with their oshi's japan arc
>>45498812i know what you mean i wanted to get kantans oopa but the shipping was like 70 or 80 freaking dollars for it and i couldnt bring myself to buy it
>>45497188why does the geogusser collab need to be an offcollab? it would work fine over discord like bae and others have done it