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453493 No.453493 [Reply] [Original]

Can someone explain to me what is the appeal of vtubers?

>> No.453511

>>453493
Anime girl that streams

>> No.453520

streamers, but cute

>> No.453532

>>453493
cute anime girls but live

>> No.453535

>>453493
cute girls doing cute things

>> No.453541

Nope. I can't explain the appeal to you any better than you'd be able to explain the appeal of some hobby you have that I don't like to me.
People like different things. Learn to accept it. Now go on, post your canned "hurr just as I thought you just wanna fuck little girls" response or whatever low quality rebuttal you had planned.

>> No.453565

>>453541
/thread

Tired of these fucking threads. It is streamer + anime girl/boy persona. If you don't get streamer and/or anime characters, you're not going to get v-tubing.

>> No.453571

>>453511
>>453520
>>453532
>>453535
>>453541
But isn't better to just watch anime?

>> No.453594

>>453493
Cute girl streamers that happen to have avatars. Most of them are dorks too instead of being your typical roasty streamer.

>> No.453599
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453599

>>453493
youtuber
but they are anime girls
you come in to simp but you stay because they turn out to be entertaining people and many have interesting specialty skills or turn out to be real characters in and of themselves

Ina is a talented artist for example, I follow her to watch her draw.

>> No.453616

>>453571
Interactivity

>> No.453625

>>453571
no
it's a real person under the anime which adds an additional layer of interaction much like how twitch streamers interact with their simps

>> No.453626

>>453493
Tbh we can't. You watch some of the easiest to watch and then decide if vtuber is for you, although you could just leave your preferences and them we gave you some to try and watch. Plus vtubers are like streamers where their contents are diverse depending on who is the voice actor behind the avatar.

>> No.453644

>>453511
>>453520
>>453532
>>453535
>>453594
>>453599
>Answering him earnestly
He really doesn't care. He doesn't like chuubas, will never like them, and he's so frustrated that people enjoy something he doesn't like that he derives pleasure from it the only way he can -- not by enjoying the content, but mocking and belittling those who do, just because they have different interests from him.

>> No.453647
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453647

Remember Kermit?

Remember Miss Piggy?

Remember Muppets Tonight?

There's your answer. That's what this is, just live.

>> No.453662

>>453644
Calm down bro, I'm not trolling and this is my first post here.

>> No.453712

>>453626
Who is your favorite Vtuber?

>> No.453717

>>453493
It's kind of like wrestling

>> No.453731

>>453571
Anime isn't an improv performance.

>> No.453737

>>453594
>Most of them are dorks too instead
This is the big deal; they're relatable.

>> No.453755

>>453662
Doubtful. But even if true,
>First post is a disingenuous metapost that isn't ABOUT Vtubers and/or their content, but about us, the fans
It's as fucking stupid as going to an anime convention and spending the entire time you're there just walking around asking random people "why do you even like anime?" You went to a place that's SPECIFICALLY FOR those with the interest. Even if you're genuinely just satiating your curiosity, you're not engaging with any of the panels, or merch booths, or artists, or whatever, you have no interest in the underlying hobby, instead you entered weebs' domain and then act confused because weebs are weebs in a weeb convention.

>> No.453789

>>453755
Are you mad?

>> No.453802

>>453493
Anime girl streaming games that you can interact with in chat.
It's for this reason that some people actually prefer indies over big streamers.

>> No.453827

>>453789
Nope, I have plenty of time to shitpost because there's no work to do rn, but I can't really watch archives or streams or anything without catching attention so instead I settle for posting here. Glad you're showing your true colors though. Only took you 15 minutes before you started declaring your epic for the win victory of making people "mad", gg bro you trolled us so good

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>>453571
when I watch anime best girl gets 0-20 minutes of screentime every week
when I watch vtubers best girl gets 10-20 hours of screentime every week

>> No.453864

>>453789
Not him but you have to understand we've been bombarded nonstop by tourists all asking the same goddamned question ever since /vt/ was formed. Hell even back in /jp/ it was a thing. So it's not surprising anons are fuming.

>> No.453868

>>453830
Based Garrison didn't really?
I fucking hate normie conservatives who think we should be in a perpetual 1950s lifestyle, fuck that, I can think you should earn what you get instead of getting handouts, while also enjoying weebshit

>> No.453957
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453957

Its improv anime

in the same way pic related is improv comedy

>> No.454002

Another question before I leave, is the any famous seiyuu behind the characters? Or just random girls?

>> No.454010

>>453957
>Its improv anime
>in the same way pic related is improv comedy
So by transitive property, it's NOT anime?

>> No.454055

>>454002
There can be, but most aren't.

>> No.454075

>>454002
yua

>> No.454131

>>453868
that's not just kelly but a FAKE kelly
apply yourself anonchama

>> No.454157

>>454002
Possibly, but it's in poor taste (and against board rules) to discuss vtubers' alteregos since that can lead to doxxing and harassing by spergaloids or angry Chinese drones.

>> No.454166

>>454131
Just realized the dad's holding an anime DVD, should've been clued in by that.
>Garrison supporting anything other than boomer americana
Forgive me my trespasses

>> No.454170

>>453571
Anime have like 1 ep per week for 13 weeks and s2 never ever. Vtuber shit lasts for years with streams almost every day.

>> No.454182

>>454002
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCBz3ZLAMLt9h_XKsd8rVTAg/videos

>> No.454301 [DELETED] 

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crnpLmy8qpY
real shit?

>> No.454321 [DELETED] 

>>454301
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sB4Nz339Wfo

>> No.454377 [DELETED] 

>normal voice
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NGd5EeN7TYk
>her videos
>shit forced voice

>> No.454396

>>453571
depends where you're comming from exactly, if you see this as simple entertainment for you to consume as a media then probably yes, but to a lot of people there's a better identification, interaction and appeal to personality than something that was produced as a flat story in anime, these are real people and so comparing the two is a false equivalence.

>> No.454455

>>454396
>these are real people
They are just characters.

>> No.454465

For some reason, I suddenly really want a Kiryu Coco feet compilation after all...

>> No.454543
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>>453571
there's interactivity between the anime girl and viewer
additionally, if you thin out the cute girl anime market by promoting vtubers, anime itself could eventually course correct itself into being actually good again

>> No.454544

>>454455
Not exactly the point because in any scenario you may put them in as mere actors they still behave as human beings, they interact, no fictional character can do that, so the comparison isn't pure.

>> No.454620

Doxchads... I kneel...
hadn't seen necromancer without her mask, she's kawaii as fuck

>> No.454624

>>454543
Pretty much this, most anime coming out nowadays is just kinda boring.

>> No.454625

>>453493
Watch https://youtu.be/kkeDrWJy6tY and you will find out why they're so great.

>> No.454629
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>>453493
anime girl talk about booba and sex joke and say curse word and lesbian flirt and play bideo game

>> No.454863

So you guys just want attention from some bitches?

>> No.454883
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454883

>>453712
Suisei, buy honestly she isnt for everyone, though I said she isnt that much of a filter for new fans

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454944

>>453493
Larping (mostly) lonely women that stream for attention and money but are too ugly/don't have enough confidence to show their faces, usually having cookie-cutter personalities backed up by their cute face and NASA tier PCs that they use to emulate retro games or play minecraft.
It's fucking amazing.

>> No.454964

>>454944
> but are too ugly/don't have enough confidence to show their faces
Hololive roommates immediately disprove that

>> No.454983

>>454964
1/4 are actually good looking
Another 1/4 are "platonic friend/classmate you grew up with and eventually settle for more for her personality than her looks, though she isn't absolutely atrocious".
The remaining half are full goblino

>> No.455009

>>454983
Pretty sure only clown and layon are objectively ugly, the rest are worst average

>> No.455018

>>454863
Do you not?

>> No.455043

>>454964
Of course exceptions exist, but 90%+ of them have completely stopped doing any activity they had in the past (if they had any) because they don't want to be associated with their current persona. It creates a safe space where the real them can't be judged by their anime avatar's actions and viceversa (or at least it should be like this).

>> No.455057

>>455009
I think clown is cute

>> No.455071

>>454863
Who doesn't? Women crave protect
Men crave validation and attention. We want to feel like someone cares and we're so starved of that that even a "Thanks for the superchat!" Or even "Hey! Anon!!!! Welcome to stream!! :D" is more than we ever get and that basically hotwires our brain to latch on to these chuubas

>> No.455072

>>455043
Anon's disputing the former not the latter. If not for their contracts I'm pretty sure a lot of them would definitely stream and shit using their old personas.

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455081

>>453864
i am FUMING
at the thought

>> No.455085

>>454983
Who hurt you Anon?

>> No.455133

>>455072
Yeah, haha, it's not like one of them still actively and regularly streams with their roastie simptuber account, lol...

>> No.455149

>>455072
Only Noel and Mel keep streaming as far as I'm aware, the point is the feeling of security by putting on a mask that makes it important, or you'd see every vtuber openly promoting their irl channels.

>> No.455163

>>455133
Yes but the majority of them are hard filtered not wanting to suddenly graduate because of that clause in their contract.

>> No.455220

>>455018
>>455071
No.

>> No.455262

>>453493
Rough concept: imagine if Johnny Depp was going online in-character as Jack Sparrow and regularly played coop games with Ryan Reynolds as Pikachu.

>> No.455266

>>455149
You forgot the menhera and the orange woman that stream with their full face uncovered

>> No.455281

>>455149
Didnt Towa still stream on NND sometimes and Cocock still stream on that other platform(M*****)

>> No.455339

>>455149
around ten of them still actively produce content on their previous channels

>> No.455364

>>455220
liar

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>>455163
Please tell us that clause oh Mr Hololive insider. Oh wait you're not one.

>> No.455653

>>455364
I don't need to simp for bitches. Bitches simp for ME. I am a superior alpha male, always was and always will be. But you can't even begin to imagine how that feels, your inferiority is etched on your very genes. You were literally made to be useless.

>> No.455816

>>455653
So this...Is the power... of a chad. s-sasuga

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455829

>>455653
>I am a superior alpha male
And yet you're here posting on a vtuber board.

>> No.455836

>>453493
fuck off boomer

>> No.455845
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455845

>>455653
Yes, yes Anon. I even found your book. Hope you can sign it for me.

>> No.455856

I can talk to anime girls

>> No.455916

>>455262
MUH dick

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455935

>>455653

>> No.455950

>>455856
This

>> No.456019
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456019

>>453493
ANU CHEEKI BREEKI IV DAMKE!

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>>455653
Holy shit im sorry mister α

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>>453571
Vtubers cut out all the shit I basically hate about anime.
I've cursed anime for years that will have the worst fucking story, animation, etc., but have one good character that I would watch it for.

>> No.456072

>>453493
Women but funny

>> No.456296

>>456072
Liar.

>> No.456302

Cute girl with similar interests, good personalities, and who's usually kind. That's really the bear minimum for a guy to be attracted to a woman, beyond his dick.

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>>453848
>>453830

>> No.456502

>>453493
Same reason celebrities and twitch streamers are popular. It's a parasocial relationship that makes the viewer feel like they are a part of something when they're just staring at a box that changes colors alone in their room all day.

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456532

>>456422
S-stop

>> No.456571

>>456532
>when ur a tuh-tul but you live in a smol, smol house

>> No.456655

>>456072
Someone out there unironically believes this.

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>>456072
More like women but cute and sometimes funny.

>> No.456741

>>453868
>Can't tell just from the line thickness
>Uses the term normie
Your political heart is in the right place that conservatives are scum, but Normalfag get out

>> No.456809

>>454964
>Hololive roommates immediately disprove that
why?

>> No.456851

>>456809
A lot of em are actually attractive
Mio's roommate has qt ara ara energy

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456871

>>456741
>>Despises the
>muh apple pie
>muh baseball
>muh white only nuclear family of working husband, stay at home wife, and 2-3 kids
>boomer conservative tropes
>>That makes ME the normalfag

>> No.456883

>>453830
>implying I'm a teen
I wish I was young again

>> No.456937

>>456707
This one is especially cute and funny

>> No.456955

>>456422
I want Korone to use that in a thumbnail.

>> No.457014

>>456871
It was the other part that makes you a normalfag, normalfag.

>> No.457021

>>456072
>women
>funny
Good joke.

>> No.457037

Is that ''Noel'' a JAV bitch?

>> No.457085 [DELETED] 
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457085

>>457037
No, just lewd but worksafe ASMR

>> No.457145

>>457014
Oh now I get it.
>Durr I hate conservatives but agree with your conservative ideologies
>t. lolbertarian and/or ancapfag

>> No.457219

>>457085
those are massive tits, especially for a japanese
no wonder everyone is crazy about them

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>>453493
L I T E R A L
P A I Z U R I
M A C H I N E

Also mr. boomer, Vtubers are a window to the very desired comradery and emotions which are lacking for most of the watchers. Hololive is a company that is trying to gather all types of girl characters girl characters which are basically what the viewers imagine woman to be. most girls obviously don't behave like this. Or the other possibility is that Hololive is hiring literaly hikkis or recluses who THINK how a girl should act. These hikkis usually use girls from anime and manga to form their character, and as progressive as they can be - the hikkis actually discover a personal character feat of their own and tailor it into the fake persona, thus creating a somewhat unique persona and try to appeal to the general male/female otaku audience. Considering there's a rise in hikkis and recluses also thanks to covid , business seems to be booming.

HOWEVER, MR. BOOMER!
Due to the phenomenon knows as HAACHAMA, this norm is about to be changed.
Everything was being acted by the book. Now the new and upcoming norm will be that every Vtuber will have their own, personal story arc that they should act out.

So yeah mr. Boomer, this is what vtubers are.
>are they better than anime
they weren't until haachama peaked. Now they will become the anime
>do I start watching vtubers
No. Then again, I recommend them for training your Japanese if you are learning it. Beginner level phrases and grammar are used, and since they are streams, it's much more entertaining than watching a movie.
>are you autistic
why the fuck do you think i'm here ffs

>> No.457326

>>453571
Nah. Vtubers have a SoL aspect while still having much more personality than your average moe trash anime. There are real people behind those avatars, and that's something many anime just can't hold a candle to.

Also anime girls can never talk back and are always behind a cultural wall. Meanwhile plenty of vtubers adopt english memes, read your superchats. They also play the same games and watch the same media as you do.

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457345

>>453493
Friend simulator. Honestly better than the real thing, every friend will eventually leave you, and you have to put up with their bullshit and drama and irrational nature, or having a fight about something stupid then you stop talking to each other,
Vtubers treat you nicely and don’t ask anything in return, you don’t even have to give them money unless you’re a simp. Like, ok you can’t actually go out and do shit with them, but it’s during a panedimic so that shit doesn’t matter anyway.

>> No.457368

>>457345
yo wtf, that art is sick as shit, makes me want to play stalker
It's a shame the broskis haven't made a decent horror game with such kino atmosphere.

>> No.457369

>>453755
I don't think you can compare an open internet forum to an anime convention you have to travel for and have to pay for. It isn't the same level of investment, and therefore less weird. Also this isn't our safespace.

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>>453864
Don’t you dare talk to me about who’s a tourist here

>> No.457414

>>457219
That's beside the point. If people just wanted her tits they could've just went to her ASMR channel and if they just wanted tits in general, there's a billion other stuff sources for that.

>> No.457415

>>456072
Did you forget that there are actual 3D women behind those avatars?

>> No.457468

Watch the episode of Psycho-Pass about Spooky Boogie. It’s like that. The real scary thing is that with voice changers, the violent end of that episode, where a crazed future VTuber fan kills and replaces Spooky Boogie is only getting closer to happening.

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>>457385
Fuck off tourist

>> No.457522

>>457085
So she really has them?! WHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEW!

>> No.457531

>>453493
lonely, godless young men who cannot resist the hook of parasocial relationships with streamers with anime avatars

>> No.457535

>>457219
You thought she was lying about her Knight Cup?

>> No.457553

>>456741
when you turn on your fellow man the elites win

>> No.457571

>>457369
Never said it was a safe space. But if we're gonna be that meta about it, the fact of the matter is that this is supposed to be a place about discussing the streams/streamers themselves. Going somewhere that is a place for X to ask "so what's the deal with X???" tends to imply that it's a buildup for some juvenile "epic troll" of people who like X. If he were genuinely curious, he'd be better off just clicking through the threads and trying to figure out what sorts of things people talk about, what sorts of conversations actually pan out vs which are shouted down, etc.
Tldr he could just lurk more, anything else looks like he's baiting. I genuinely don't "get" ponyfaggotry but I'd never waste my time (theirs or mine) on their containment board pretending like anything they ever said would convince me to like it.

>> No.457611

>>457085
Anon we're not supposed to talk about her roommate here.

>> No.457650 [DELETED] 

>>457415
Some people here are delusional.

>> No.457653

>>453493
It's simply the next step towards real anime girls: Girls pretending to be anime girls, staying in character at all times when seen, and displaying all the trappings and mannerisms of anime girls. Hololive are the biggest because they have a focus on GFE (girlfriend experience) and idol culture.

It's not perfect (especially since we all have to share), but it's more immersive and provides more content and a longer, more interactive narrative than anime ever did.

It's the best we've got till AI technology improves drastically.

>> No.457658

>>457531
I'm not godless so where do I fit into your model

>> No.457708

>>456809
>>456851
Coco's roommate is pretty good looking too. A bit like a mix of Bayonetta and Tifa

>> No.457726

>>457522
Even better, So many of her ASMR videos she's sticking a phallic object between her titties and making slurping sounds at the mic while strroking the mic stand and using her free hand to grope a titty. She has a bra on still but this is damn near fuckin porn.

>> No.457727

>>457708
I see what you did there

>> No.457781

As someone that's 34 so I'm old enough to feel old but in the grand scheme of things I'm not objectively old, I get it. It's really just a continuation of streaming and most of the original vidya streamers were in their 20s as I was. I feel like this was kind of an inevitability once the ability to hide your face but still be on-screen became available.

>> No.458960

>>457535
I thought she was fat

>> No.459066

>>458960
She's fat in right places.

>> No.459165

>>458960
I think her roommate did really pack on the pounds when the rona started. Check the /jp/ archive

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>>453493
Have you ever seen Ultraman and thought to yourself:
>I wonder what's his thought process whenever he's killing monsters/doing menial shit
>I wonder if I can ask him about it
>I wonder how good/bad at other things he is
Well, this is it. You're seeing a character being played live.

>> No.460107

>>458960
She admitted she did gain some weight being stuck inside during lockdown, but she lost it later.

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>>453493
Let's players with glorified anime profile pic

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>>453493
>better than Netflix
>better than Hollywood
Although that is as much statement about them, as it is about Hollywood.
Also watching a two-way stream (they talk to chat and chat talks back) is special kind of fun that anime can't provide.
They're also cute and at times funny.
>not going anywhere near political issues
That's the big one for me. I don't want this shit near my entertainment.

I also like live karaoke performances and VTubers do that a lot (recently had fun watching https://youtu.be/pBL1Xos7nRU))

>> No.460667

if you need someone to explain it to you you have brain damage

>> No.460835

>>460497
>>not going anywhere near political issues
>That's the big one for me. I don't want this shit near my entertainment.
Protip keep this reason to yourself. Youre basically admitting that vtubers are your safespace

>> No.460884

>>460835
Believe it or not you didn't have to worry about politics in anything that wasn't a political rally.
You really missed out

>> No.460914

>>460884
and because of that it took until 2016 for our god-given champion to arrive

>> No.460976

>>453493
That image is a little too sexy.

>> No.461079

>>460835
>safespace
>content I don't enjoy is "le trigger"
Back to whatever hellhole you crawled from.

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