/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

https://www.youtube.com/live/UAXVqgYbfvo?feature=share
https://www.youtube.com/live/UAXVqgYbfvo?feature=share
https://www.youtube.com/live/UAXVqgYbfvo?feature=share
Isla cursed outfit drawing stream

Peony RAPE

Charlotte
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXcEs0vdE0k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXcEs0vdE0k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXcEs0vdE0k

Nene & Lua getting sweaty together
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AH072K5kURc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AH072K5kURc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AH072K5kURc

lua old nene fat lol

>>45298257
Lua's hip tracking seems better but maybe Nene's extra fat ass is messing with the tracking detection.

lua bony butt lol

This is a good collab

Imagine the girl smell in a room where these 2 are working out.

allah, thank you

Nami boobs

Thank fucking god whoever invented ring fit just for this stream to happen

Anni merch is going to be never before seen merch among vtubers

I wanna do some hip thrusts with Lua if you know what I mean

I like how they both start speaking Jap more when they get together

Isla wants you to search up red panda butt

>>45298148
Did she actually turn it on because of chat askign for it? Tuned it just now

>>45299438
yes she turned it up, it was borderline inaudible.

>>45299478
it should have been inaudible

Lua Chinese lol

>>45299135
lmao weebs

nene tall

are they playing at the same time I don't get it

Bros, I fucking love Lua. I never understood the gfe and parasocial shit until I started watching her. What has this hag succubus done to me?

I miss ryu uuuuuuu

>>45300610
The hag gfe are extra dangerous anon

>>45300416
lua is copying nene

>>45300700
oh, so you finally dropped Aletta?

>>45300610
>wasn't watching her before
Homosexual post

kneel

>>45301046
you have a typo in your filename

>>45300610
I get it her taking about buying a house in the recent ASMR got me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0MvvcbBnkvI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0MvvcbBnkvI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0MvvcbBnkvI

Decadent?

>>45301046
Wha' happen'?

Anyone got the ring fit hip shake webm?

>>45300884
Don't worry, anon. She cured me and set me straight.

I love my bisexual schizo dragon girlfriend

I love lua's mound so much. nene has her beat in cleavage, but Lua takes the crown here.

>>45301773
lua would be perfect with a small cute futacock

>>45301297
Reina gfe...

>>45301773
the short she uploaded before their 3d debut, the one where she was shaking her hips, that was the first time i jacked off to a chuuba's actual model. she's so hot

Isla is the cutest. The CUTEST!!!

Daily reminder that Miryu is a schizo and I love her very much.

finding out that laying down turns off the trackers explains so much

>>45301773
Lua's unshaven large Chinese labia majora...

>>45301674
Same

>>45302383
Home...

いち に! いち に! いちいち に!

Lua is deeply invested in the lore of ring fit.

>>45304754
all me

fun girls

Total gen 1 Overlap tonight?

>>45305726
It only happened for like 6 minutes but yeah. Total gen 3 overlap happened earlier too if you count Peony on Shee's stream.

total kawaii overlap on my cock

>>45305694
Managers of hip shaking

>>45306493
on yeah on me

Nami's sweaty smelly armpits.

A reminder that just like how the magic protecting Harry Potter expired when he came of age, German law no longer shields Peony from being sexually exploited.

>Anime girls like anime boys!
Miryu... don't look...

Isla shitting on Tatami Galaxy is peak gfe, that show was insufferably pretentious

>>45305694
JP women superiority

>>45307536
neither of them are Japanese lmao

>>45307047
Miryu loves my cock
just mine

>>45306537
oh stop it you.

I have completely fallen out of love with Aletta but she was my first ever membership, sunk cost fallacy prevents me from dropping her.
What do I do?

Why did the last Peony ASMR get deleted? It was pre-recorded...

>>45308893
>sunk cost fallacy
Unless you're in her inner circle then the only thing you'd be losing is time. I was also in a similar boat having watched her quite a bit and membered her a few months back. I simply just stopped watching her because she started to get grating

>>45308893
There's no easy way to go about it. If you don't like her anymore rip off the band-aid quick. Unmember, unsub, click don't recommend channel whenever her videos are suggested, and find someone new. It is easier said than done but if you don't love her anymore then you gotta do what you gotta do.

>>45309105
The video is there. The deleted one was just one where she accidentally used the wrong background sounds, so she quickly took it down and reuploaded the fixed one.

>>45308893
Make sure to announce it with a dono and say you're switching oshi. It'll solidify your choice with no coming back

>>45309388
I second this. I would kneel

>>45309388
don't do this, retard

>>45309388
yes, always do this and also mention who your new oshi will be especially if she's an eien whore

>>45309388
Didn't she cry once or twice when that retard Dylan said "Sorry I can't stay, I wanna watch your genmate Peony."
That was like 2-3 months ago or so.

>>45309388
Even though I don't like what she's become, I still love the person she was before she got big. I'm not cruel enough to do that.

>>45310154
>I still love the person she was
Good for you. I personally can't. The thing that rubbed me the wrong way is how she always has something bad to say about people from her past. Not even bullies but classmates, teachers, her posh friends, former coleagues, etc. I really don't like people that do that, and I refuse to believe it's a part of her chuuba character.
The exact thing that broke the camels back for me, was her complaining about the guy from her class that had help from some professor for his masters degree, while she had to do everything on her own.
It's like Jeeeeesus Christ woman give it a rest.

>>45310704
This, she's certainly gotten a lot worse over time but she's pretty much always been a very slimy person. She stealth talks a lot of shit and looks down upon other people and is incredibly manipulative, yet still tries to appear as the all-accepting wholesome type. I can't say whether it's done out of malicious intent or not but she has shown she has no problem putting other people down to boost herself up

>>45310704
>>45311040
Women hold onto grudges like a fucking lifeline, and they always wait until you're at your lowest before unloading all of it on you. Never be real with women, never talk about your feelings with women, and never assume a woman just "forgot" about a perceived slight or wrongdoing. It WILL be used against you in the future.

>>45311196
Not all women. Please let's not turn this into WOMEN BAD!

>>45310704
I hope you are aware how funny this post reads.

KAOLIN RAPE

Remove the whorse from the OP along with the """"""""""Friends""""""""" section

Next week, I'm giving her one more chance, if I enjoy myself in her stream, I'll stay, if I don't, membership is finished, and I'll deck my profile out in coleknight or birbling paraphernalia.

>>45312424
>one more chance
Dont do it, just leave. She doesn't need fake fans like you

Anti Aletta faggots are so annoying, if you don't like, don't watch, simple as, you're not gonna convince anyone to stop watching her with your pussy ass whining.

>>45312424
The fact that you're willing to give the whorse multiple chances after enduring her abhorrent content proves that you're probably better than she deserves

>>45312736
Kill yourself shaaang, you brown midget

>>45312736
Implying anyone here actually watches the whorse

>>45312736
No one is trying to convince whorsefags to stop watching her. If you're braindead enough to be entertained by her and her robotic content then you're exactly who she's pandering to. Stay in your lane.

>>45311598
Why? Because I am doing the same thing that I'm calling her out for. I didn't bring up the Leti topic, I just added my 2 cents on why I stopped watching because the narrative was always how people dislike her for no reason, or that they are probably doxshells trying to make her look bad. As you can see, some anons had good reasons to drop her, and not just scream about schizo shit like Alban, rice test, duck naming or w/e

>>45312736
Not your hitbox faggot

>>45312736
Fuck you, I actually liked her before the awawawa yehyeh uhmuhum ayayaya took her. It's like watching your ex become consumed by her vices.

>>45312798
>>45312836
She doesn't leave your faggot mouths, you are just in love with her and can't admit, my god imagine keeping bring up someone you dislike over and over and over, couldn't be me.

>>45312958
hugbox

>>45312984
(You)

>>45312736
Go back to your hugbox discord trash. This is the only place where people can have unfiltered opinions. You are literally trying to shut down any criticism like the true discord cuck.

>>45312974
I did not ask. And I do not care, just shut the fuck up, you're annoying.

>>45312958
>>45313014
not your diary either, I'm tired of your personal irrelevant logs..

>>45313047
Discord is the gland of my penis, suck it faggot.
Criticize as much as you want, just stop repeating the same faggot stuff over and over again.

I MISS CHARZU UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

>>45313354
kill yourself holofaggot

>>45313217
Cringe hugbox imbecile
>JUST STOP DOING IT REEEEEE!
Yeah, good luck being the thread police on 4chan. People LOVE that shit.

>>45313135
Do you consider yourself the discord's best? What a laugh riot!

>>45313135
>>45313217
>waaaah nooo you're not allowed to shit on the worst member of the corpo because I watch her and it hurts my feelings waaaah

>>45313217
I hope you understand that people sometimes start antiing vtubers just based on their annoying fanbase. You are not doing your oshi any service by sperging out like that.

y'all both goofy lmao.

>>45313502
Be 1% less annoying, if you have the capacity.

>>45313688
retard, I'm not even in discord at all.

>>45313732
>Anonymous 03/18/23(Sat)05:23:01 No.453

>>45313752
I don't watch her ever since she continued to follow the niji niigger, you fuckers are just THAT annoying and gay who keep on bringing her up non stop, be like me, I don't like her anymore, she doesn't enter my radar at all and I don't care what she does. Looks like you guys can't move on, you want to watch her again somehow, that's the only explanation.

>>45313888
its sea hours

>>45313888
Aletta is not being brought up that often and I'm sure it's not always the same people. You are being a turbo sperg and acting like the thread police. Hide posts that annoy you or fuck off. Who the fuck are you to tell people to stop talking about this or that. Literal mongoloid retard.

>>45313888
Admit it, you'd go back to the good old days of the debut era if you could. So would I.

>>45314407
what the fuck are you saying, I don't care, you care.

>>45313888
>mass reply faggot
If you had a functioning brain and read the thread you would see that this current Aletta discourse started because an anon was wondering how he should approach dropping the whorse because he didn't enjoy her content anymore, many such cases. This isn't random anons "bringing her up non stop" and shitting on her unprovoked, these are responses to responses of a genuine inquiry and you're only making things worse by thinking you have a way to prevent it.
>just ignore what she does, she shouldn't be on your radar anymore
But she will always be "on the radar" and relevant because she's established herself as a big name of kawaii and now has influence, which is already showing since she can rope other girls into collabs with her Twitch-tier whore friends. It's impossible to ignore when her decisions are actively shitting up the corpo

>>45314407
>good old days
there was no good old days, she was as shit then as she is now

>>45313888
>spergs over a few Aletta posts every few threads
>admits to dropping her over a twitter follow
Are you the same wannabe thread police guy that starts crying when people talk about anything that you dont like? You know, one of those "New IP, dogshit post" retards. Or "this thread is ruined" and then I scroll up and dont see anything that bad or unusual?
Just fucking neck yourself you retarded sperg.

>>45314655
She was different back then. She felt a lot more controlled and wasn't a complete cancer around her debut period, and many anons actually enjoyed her content around the first 3 months or so. Recent Aletta is a clear result of her rapid incline, when she got a lot more comfortable and she as a content creator completely stagnated. She's gotten a lot bolder with her shitty decision making and doubled down on her worst personality traits because she picked up on the fact that those are what reeled people in. Anyone who's been watching since debut 6 months ago can detect a very clear shift in Aletta which I honestly believe is what lead to so much disappointment and anti behavior in recent times

>>45307922
>>44718260
Anotha one kek

>>45315179
she was always doing the autistic anime noises, she was always pegaSUS

>>45310704
This.
I don't remember when but she had a story that really rubbed me the wrong way and exposed her true character, under the bubbly uwu pure saint facade.

I forgot most of the details but remember the key points. It was when she was still in school, maybe middle school. They had a class contest or something and the student with the best project would win a tour in some facility related to the subject. She has always been gifted in academics and a real tryhard so she won and wanted to go but the teacher told her that maybe it would be better for other students to go because she was already so good and they would benefit more from the learning experience, and she got mad. And she was still mad about it on stream.

I understand the feeling and I can see how a kid would probably be mad about the teacher decision, but she is an adult now. She should have come to understand the teacher reasoning and move on, instead of harping on how unfair it was.
This attitude is one of the reasons I think the bullying she got was partially self inflicted, if not played up for simpathy points on stream.

>>45316952
>work hard to win a prize
>get told you worked too hard so you cant win the prize
?????

>>45315179
>She's gotten a lot bolder with her shitty decision making
Refollowing was fucking retarded but she completely ignored the next Nijihomo that tried to derail her chat so she's fine on that front barring another incident.
As for the ducks who the fuck even cares about that? I probably hate the poop bong more than any of you but Aletta had no incentive to give the discord preferential treatment (meaningless as it was) because they were ALREADY her yesmen. It's actually the opposite, because of the criticism she got over this in the past she had an incentive to NOT do this, so I don't believe that she did it with any intentionality. The only mistake she made here was not considering this possibility and taking the necessary steps to preempt it, like using a bot or spinning a wheel on screen. Duckgate was a nothingburger psyops by the discord to further alienate her from the thread so they could push their whole "real fans" thing, and it was unwittingly propped up by the 3 schizos who have been hatewatching her for the last 6 months.

>>45315179
Exactly this. If she'd stayed restrained, and made being well spoken and intelligent the main aspect of her identity, I never would have gone off her, and this conversation wouldn't exist.

>>45316952
Yeah nah fuck that teacher lmao I'd still be mad too. I still have a grudge against one of my elementary teachers, one from high school, and one prof from college.

>wake up
>realise that you'll never frolic in the hills with Peony
>never see the same peaceful German landscape she's seeing every day
>play Delilah on repeat and weep

>>45323486
not with that attitude

Goddamn, got a bunch severely emotionally invested authors in this thread. If I wanted to read this many paragraphs, I’d just pick up some of the book recommendations from the last thread. Also still might do just that, but, still. Also, speaking of book recommendations, y’all should read Roadside Picnic. Not very long, pretty interesting. Or the true progenitor of vampire mythos, Carmilla. Super short, public domain, and has lesbian vampires.
also, the whorse is a green tea bitch.

>>45324275
Thanks, Nami

>>45324275
>Roadside picnic
I can just replay Stalker instead

https://www.youtube.com/live/FLF5S4UoFPk?feature=share
https://www.youtube.com/live/FLF5S4UoFPk?feature=share
https://www.youtube.com/live/FLF5S4UoFPk?feature=share
peony zoomer working method time

>>45325329
/live/ + ?feature=share chama...

>>45325329
Fucking hate Neal for making this the standard when sharing link

>>45325908
im on mobile laying in bed idc

Shut the fuck up and watch Holofest the girls future collab partners are preforming right now

Sus

i need to cum on alettas horse ears

>>45326192
Sorry I am watching my oshi Tyler1

I like working with Peony!

I like putting work on peony frail and vulnerable body

its over
Peony's cereal is soggy

peony is eating a cucumber and carrot

Peony's already begging to be raped since early morning.

PEONY CUTEEEE

>>45334580
NO, I'M NOT A DUMBO!

New viewer here, tell me the quintessential Peony vods to watch

>>45336203
The roleplay 'asmr' is SOVL

>>45336203
Most of the AoE2 streams are the same, her trying a strat and then dying horribly. still fun though. DBD streams to see her being competent and also screaming. Peony is mostly screaming.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5u6GPy6dSY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Q3azvxtBsI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVDirkx2QGw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nbEj3ttFbx8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3JAei1nnfXI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3JAei1nnfXI

>>45316952
Aletta might be shit but her reaction in that story was entirely justified

>>45336203
Sava spring
Aoe2 stream
Dbd stream
Or any of her asmr rp video of choice

i miss sava

>>45340274
Me too gaobro, me too.
What are you gonna do while she's away? Personally I'm gonna finish a couple books I've already started and play some old stuff I got on this Steam sale.

>>45340654
kill myself and hope the afterlife is full of savas

peony wants to get rid of her round cheeks. This is the the worst news I could ever have imagined.

>>45340834
>he doesn't like gradual daughter bimbofication

>>45340274
>>45340654
Are you preparing something for her return? At least a drawing or something?

Peony switching to DBD

>>45341803
Man, wish I could draw, stickmen are my limit. I could try making a funny MS Paint pic, but I don't wanna copy Paint Peony.

>>45341803
she will inherit all my money once i die

>>45339615
I think it was mostly the "ME ME ME" attitude that rubbed anon the wrong way.
I know because I used to be one of those tryharding, humblebragging and overachieving fags who thought "I am so good why don't people like me".

I did not think too much of it at the time but looking back and hearing people opinions made me realize how much of a fucking ass I actually was to people even though I always meant well.

>>45341489
if I wanted bimbos, i would not be watching peony.

>>45316952
Honestly I'm with the whorse on that one. That's a reward that she quite literally earned on her own and being told that you did "too well" and still not getting your hard-earned reward is really fucking stupid. I would've had my parents get something done about that for sure.

>>45342324
But in that story her egoistic attitude made sense, she won a price and was upset the teacher wanted to give it to someone else.
The teacher should have told her before that even if she wins she won't get anything out of it.

>>45326192
the only girl in whorelolive worth watching is Noel and I'm not even talking about her Hololive kayfabe

>>45343520
I guess anon did not expect that egoistic attitude from someone who preaches love and inclusivity for everyone while on stream.
Jokes on him because Aletta always seemed very bitter about her past to me.

Wouldn't be surprised if she started to rub her success in the face of those who wronged her, assuming that was even the case.

>>45343628
Koshita pls do not shitpost in the general of your own corpo

>>45344430
This is definitely happening, Asian children succeed both to honor and spite their parents.

hungry

>>45344430
>>45345452
Chinese people are never graceful in victory nor defeat.
She definitely letting them know, whoever they are, she "made it".

Eat shee. You work hard. You deserve it. all the caesar salad and salmon you can eat.

Only vtuber that consistently puts a smile on my face.

>>45346356
>>45346904
your mom eats my salmon, if you know what I mean

>Nene getting her 4th outfit before anyone gets their 2nd
Do you think management overestimated the success of this company when they made the sub count goals?
So far only 3 girls got enough subs to get more than one, and one of them got fired before she could get her outfit.

>>45346997
>only 3 girls got enough subs to get more than one
>one of them got fired before she could get her outfit
OY VEY, HE KNOWS
SHUT IT DOWN

I want Isla and Miryu to cover this. If Kaibutsu san can be done with 2 girls so can this. Fuck Holofest. Listen to this shit.
https://youtu.be/YLfkgo-3_sk

>>45327011
Sorry, anon. I tried to generate a picture to match your desires, but it just layers cum all over her face and chest instead.

>>45344430
I want Aletta to rub her success in my face
With success I mean penis

>>45347344
>kaibutsu san
I love that the synth is so prominent in this cover. It is too subdued in the original. I really prefer this one. Lua's voice SEX as always.
https://youtu.be/jAOmxTBD4Cg

>>45346356
>>45346904
why are girls so cute when they eat
https://streamable.com/orl1nq

>>45348255
prey animals only eat when they feel calm and safe. the vulnerability=cuteness.

>>45316952
>>45310704
for me it was when she nuked a members vod over nothing. All her content is spam but when she finally puts out something I want to watch 90% of the vod gets nuked? Fuck that I literally cannot watch her as I literally do not have enough time to put up with her antics live
Quality over quantity every time

>>45346904
Sheeating

>>45348645
designated sheeating streets

>>45348597
If it's the vod I'm thinking of then she nuked that because she talked about the siren in it. It wasn't unusual, in fact tons of vods went missing from multiple girls during that period because they addressed the situation at some point but didn't want to leave up the evidence for some reason. Just about all of the girls were guilty of it, not just the whorse

added latest Reina space
https://gofile.io/d/dt0yT2

>>45349213
Ruins the illusion of her vod gang daisuke bullshit when she tries to turn her membership streams into a secret club

>>45349653
>when she tries to turn her membership streams into a secret club
Yes, if you ignore literally all context i'm sure it looks like that

>>45349653
> turn her membership streams into a secret club
that's what they should be, pay up greynigger.

>>45349653
And it only happened once, and considering every other girl wiped any mention of the siren incident they were probably told to do so by management. I don't like Aletta either but trying to spin this as "muh sikrit club" and blatantly ignoring context is retarded.

>>45349752
this is especially funny because Aletta is the easiest girl to get a gifted sub from because her paypigs are constantly spamming those

>>45349904
that's why I said, "should"

>>45349716
>>45349815
>muh context
how am I supposed to contextualize when I can't watch it horsecucks
>>45349752
>>45349904
I made the mistake of paying for 3 months and now have to deal with getting gifted and notifications on her eyerolling essays of her pretending she doesn't hold her fans in contempt. Youtube needs to let you turn off receiving gifts

only 90 more minutes

>>45350065
Can't you just unsub if you don't want gifts?

>>45350065
Mank... just unsub at this point

>>45350065
you can turn it on and off.

>>45350065
>Youtube needs to let you turn off receiving gifts
You can turn off getting gifts from her channel dumbass.
Also, I'm not her fan but she literally didn't say anything that we already didn't know in that vod about the blue whore. You really didn't miss out on anything.

>there are people unironically watching Aletta /here/
How do you do it, honest inquire.

I will now watch this shitty brat.
https://youtu.be/G6l_lGL-PFk

>>45350493
It's called having good taste retard.

>>45350636
Wrong thread anon-chama...

>>45350493
maybe it's because she is the most watched, are you retarded.

>>45350747
Holy shit I'm sorry. I still can't delete that post. I tried.

>>45350732
goyslop content

>>45350493
She appeals to the lowest denominator of normies and genuine retards, of which there are many of in this sthread

>>45350636
>>45350824
refugee company

>>45350824
Since your post got a (you), you have no choice but to leave it up

>Another yandere ASMR
i-is Peony just putting on a supercute act so she can hide her real yandere self?

>>45351013
How new? she is doing it for 6 months.

>>45351013
It's her most popular content

>>45351013
the word yandere is good for the algo

>>45350493
My wife seems to really like and admire her, so I keep up to date so I have a little background for collabs

>>45351013
Yandere has always been the most popular trope for roleplay ASMRs, plus Peony outright said it's her favorite trope for them.

>>45351257
>liking and admiring the whorse
Yikes

More petty than fujoshits going at holos. It's the estrogen in the tap water. Many such cases. Sad!

>>45350193
>>45350264
>>45350366
Manage membership. Paid member option. 3 dots. Gift settings. No idea why google decided to hide the toggle under 3 uis rather than just putting it with manage membership

>>45351421
I mean, all of kawaii are women so they can't actually recognize Aletta's wrongdoings or fuck-ups, they just admire her success. As long as Aletta presents herself as wholesome and outgoing a lot of people are going to like and admire her.

>>45351643
so true horsesister, can't believe people don't like Aletta!

>>45351710
Don't forget that she helped other girls with some stuff, so no wonder they like her. Personally, I don't watch her, but unless she's like a blue woman and actually does good stuff for her genmates, I'm alright with her.

>>45351257
Women will never speak ill of other women in public unless it is a safe position to have.
Sometimes you get the based one who doesn't care about "looking good" but it's rare.

You will hear their true opinions on other people only behind closed doors or when it's socially acceptable to be negative.

>>45351948
I don't think she's secretly another blue woman so what she does behind the scenes or how the other girls feel about her isn't any of my concern. What I don't like are her collab choices and her plans to drag the others into them. Peony couldn't be more out of place in a collab with the likes of Non and Miori.

>>45351710
>be kawaii talent
>see horses channel
>holy shit that's a lot of vods
>makes assumption it's all high effort content
>never watch the vods enough to notice it's the same effortless stream repeated 14 times a week
Can't blamed them but I laughed out loud at this tweet https://twitter.com/sava_kawaii/status/1635021353844887552

>>45352272
>trying this hard
Goddamn, where did she hurt you bro.

>>45352399
>trying this hard
how much did you spend

>>45352272
Sava is low iq and easily impressed

>>45352542
0$

>>45351948
>>45352041
>>45352175

The issue is and always will be there's a veil of theater that we will always be unable to penetrate. That's the whole point, it's a show, we watch a show. You tuning in to 4 hours of Peony being adorable isn't functionally any different from a Boomer who tunes in to watch their favorite TV program.
We can only make inferences about what kind of people the talents really are based on the vague shadows we can spy through a smoke screen.
Look at O*****, this thread generally didn't care for her and thought she was too normie to be legit but we had no clue what-so-ever about what was really going on and we still don't know the full scope of it. If something that critical can be happening under our noses, even we who are so autistically obsessive about watching these girls, then I think there needs to be allot of caution in the kinds of conclusions we come to about this, that or the other thing.
There are too many unknowns. The safest thing you can do is watch the girls whose content you like, pray every night before you go to bed that she doesn't yab and be happy.
Anything more than that and you're going to spiral into the land of needless speculation.

>>45352175
The collab turned out fine. You also can't get people to hate Mio here anon.

>>45352272
I imagine a lot of us laughed at that tweet because of how clueless Sava appears here. I can understand being impressed by Aletta's consistency and output because 14 streams a week IS a ton, but reaity is her streams are incredibly low-quality and easy to churn out. Even if zatsus and the like are considered low-effort content, they can be made very enjoyable if the streamer is good at engaging with their audience and brings fun subjects to the table, which ironically Sava is way better than Aletta at. I think Sava is looking at it from a pure numbers perspective.

>>45352635
can't deny Peony felt out of place and barely spoke. She had her moments but the whole vibe of the collab did not suit her at all.

>>45352665
>low-quality and easy to churn out
Then why doesn't everyone does it? you sound like those twitter fags complaining about stuff they never tried and thinks everything is easy.

>>45352635
I can only imagine they tuned down the sex jokes because of the backlash the last stream got. But I still don't think the other kawaii girls fit with that sort of company. Peony hardly uttered a word.
>You also can't get people to hate Mio here anon
That isn't my intention, so I don't know what you're trying to say here. I guess I could have used Ophelia as an example instead since they're all interchangeable.

>>45352784
True, but it didn't turn out like Peony forcing to make sex jokes like the doomposters predicted.

>>45352605
autism or trust issues? my kawaii oishi shares entirety of her life and many people instantly called [redacted]'s bullshit just by knowing her interests

>>45352807
>You can't judge something unless you've done it yourself
Is this really the hill you're going to die on, anon

>>45352175
Don't have to worry about it because Peony noticed it too and claimed to have issues streaming her POV last minute and then mostly played in silence without pulling a raft collab
Peony's ability to self manage and read a situation without menheraing is refreshing and one of her best qualities

>>45351013
she learned english solely to read/write yandere roleplays

>>45352887
Most other girls either study + have a job or multiple jobs. Charzu is in a job hell right now. Aletta quit everything to become a vtuber. Her and Nene are able to pump out more streams than anyone else due to that.

>>45352975
You can, but are crazy and obviously wrong, so comically wrong it's like you never tried making a single piece of content ever in your life, even if your theory of she just copying the same video 14 times a week, you cannot say that doesn't take effort, breaks your entire point and sounds like you're throwing out logic just to hate.

>>45353121
You think Peony did any gwa in the past?

>>45353321
She does know the tags.

>>45353321
she turned 18 after getting accepted into kawaii so probably not

>>45352973
Anon...
> my kawaii oishi
> oishi
Anon...
> shares entirety of her life
Anon....
> and many people instantly called [redacted]'s bullshit just by knowing her interests
And now I know you're shit posting. I found exactly 1 post outside of /pkg/ that may have been a kawaii talent telling O***** off for what she was doing before it was revealed but nobody in this general was doing it. If you're going to claim otherwise, like the post.

>>45353407
link the post*

>>45352807
>why doesn't everyone do it
because they don't like or don't want to do it. Also success in the creative world is weird mix of many factors, talent and hard work being just two of them, arguably not even the most important.

>>45353225
Her stream content is low effort from a creative standpoint but she does put a lot of work in on multiple fronts at least. I will give her credit for that.
Just because she spends a lot of time on something doesn't make it valuable by default though. At least not to anyone other than herself and her mindless simps who eat up anything she does anyway.

>>45353225
>even if your theory of she just copying the same video 14 times a week, you cannot say that doesn't take effort
Making 3 real streams a week is harder than doing 14 zatsus of one sided woman stories. What is this copium? discord defenseforce?

>>45353225
Streaming is more or less a part of her daily routine at this point, and it takes next to no effort to boot up your PC and start streaming to an already established community. Making creative, well-researched or passion driven content is high effort. Waking up to play Elden Ring or stream "co-working" where you don't even speak for 90% of the duration is not, and anyone willing to buy a mic can do those. There's nothing wrong with consuming content that's low effort but claiming that it isn't low effort is complete ludicrous. I'll at least give her props for streaming twice a day though, scheduling your day around that must be a nightmare.

>>45353407
She overshares too much. Watch streams if you want to talk nonsense about talents as a collective.
>no one called her out
Back to your discord ocecuck

>>45353664
>Making 3 real streams a week is harder than doing 14 zatsus of one sided woman stories.
In your dreams. this makes 0 sense and it's the actual cope.

there are unironic horsecucks in this thread? go back to discord faggots this isnt your hugbox

>>45353664
aletta's 'antis' truly are retarded

>Nami stream in half an hour
>it's a fucking tarot card discussion
fuck, I forgot she's a woman....

>>45353919
>"Not your hug box"
>"Leave, this is my hugbox"
You're the one wanting a hugbox with no different opinion, RETARD.

>>45353891
>>45353953
see >>45353731

>>45353840
> She overshares too much
You have no idea what percentage of the things she's sharing constitute " her entire life". And it's retarded to pretend otherwise.
> Back to your discord ocecuck
Link the posts faggot. In what universe is anything that I said in defense of O*****?
Stop being a retard and communicate like a human being.

>>45353919
complaining about "hugboxes" then complaining about someone having the nerve to go against the /pkg/ hivemind and say something positive about Aletta is hilarious to me

>>45354055
Not only this but there is nothing stopping any talent from just lying to us.

>>45354043
Cope less. that's not even the point.
>What she does is easy
yes 1 day maybe, but 14 times a week, you can't say it doesn't take a tremendous effort

>>45354075
hugbox only ever gets said when someone says something positive/defends Aletta for some reason

>shit talk horse for spamming
>half a dozen new IPs spawn to defend her with nuh uhs
makes ya think

>>45354055
Yes, these 20 yo girls keep you in the shadow and constantly lie to you about their life. It's the most reddit vtuber opinion to have.
I'm not going through archives to disprove you about redacted. I called out the normalfag myself when she talked about the watchalongs she did during their first collab and her old fans. No, I didn't insult her because it'd be retarded

>>45354264
>Everybody must hate Aletta otherwise it's a new IP
Nigger.

>>45354264
kill yourself for using a peony image while shitstirring

>>45354293
>Yes, these 20 yo girls keep you in the shadow and constantly lie to you about their life.
It's not about being kept in the shadow or them lying. It's that there's a natural wall that exists between people in different kinds of interpersonal relationships. I don't know why that's hard to grasp as a concept for you. I go to work and I work with the same set of guys for 10 hours a day 5 days a week. There's a massive amount of information about my life I don't share with them because as familiar with them as I am and as much as we rely on each-others trust and team work to do our jobs we don't have the kind of relationship that warrants that kind of intimacy.
You think a green-name in a public chat room does warrant that kind of intimacy?
Are you kidding me? You aren't even on a first name basis with your talent of choice.
> I called out the normalfag myself when she talked about the watchalongs
You're telling me that at that point you knew she was doxxing the other talents and made a post saying "this is clear evidence that she's engaging in this behavior"?
Go fuck yourself you disingenuous cockring.

>>45354264
It's also saturday morning in the US. Anons are waking up, this is the exact time you would expect new IP's to start reading the thread and making replies to posts they don't like.

>marvel capeshit
>uncle roger
>no real interest in weeb stuff
I knew Doxxeane was fake the moment she debuted, I think you can search the reactions in the archive.
People even called her out as one of gen3 to eventually graduate.
Little did they know, it was going to be way worse.

>>45354220
working in silence while discord throw money at you is not the herculean feat you think it is kek

>>45354657
> thinking this has anything to do with what anyone has said
Stop moving the goal posts.

Never really watched much of kawaii beyond sava
Now she'll barely stream who else is fun to watch?

>>45354803
Shiina from phase

>>45354803
Miryu is one of the most underrated EN vtubers in my humble opinion.

>>45354803
me

>>45354803
Charzu and Isla, they stream way later though.
You can try watching Nami too, I moved from Sava to Nami but it's an acquired taste, Nami doesn't give a fuck.

>>45354803
They all have their charms.
For a Sava enjoyer I'd probably recommend Shee or Reina, Miryu could be good for you too but she's much more subdued but wacky in her own special way. Charzu is the funniest in kawaii but it's definitely an acquired taste.

>>45354803
Aside from Sava, Shee, Isla and Miryu are highlights for me and really something special

>>45354561
I don't "think" it warrants that kind of intimacy. I watch a 8h long zatsu of hers and I'm barraged with this intimacy.
Of course no one called out doxxing instantly lmao when she couldn't possibly do that back then? they called out her being a fake whore

Will your oshi fall in love with you? Will you win the lottery? Is it possible, truly possible, for you to be fucking normal for one goddamn day? Let Nami tell you your future!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPyVqj-ylLA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPyVqj-ylLA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPyVqj-ylLA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPyVqj-ylLA

>>45355007
> Of course no one called out doxxing instantly lmao when she couldn't possibly do that back then?
Which was my whole point you retard. That something like that could happen under our noses without us having any idea. That's my point, you're the retard who thought not liking her for being fake had anything to do with the point I was making.
I'm glad you are finally catching up to my original post.

>>45354926
stop using the plane wifi for shitposting Sava

>>45349716
>ignore literally all context
this reminds me of the time someone tried to say Aletta admitted to not being a virgin in one stream, because she and her chat were talking about wizard powers, but it was actually some random faggot that said they should've waited till 30, and that Aletta implied she still was

Tenshi Time

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qetuMn-m35w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qetuMn-m35w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qetuMn-m35w

>>45355121
>woman that makes sure to let you know she still has her v card

>>45355114
You could get a feel because they never interacted but no one could ever expect her to do something so retarded and self-destructive. She belong in a psych ward. It was an outlier and not a norm to suspect from chuubas

>>45355121
She also took the rice purity test on stream but "magically" forgot to finish it once it got the the sex questions and it "magically" came back at the end of the streams with a 89 score.

>>45355121
She is.

>>45355432
Which shows, as I posted,
> The issue is and always will be there's a veil of theater that we will always be unable to penetrate.
> We can only make inferences about what kind of people the talents really are based on the vague shadows we can spy through a smoke screen.

That's the last I'm going to say on the topic. Next time you reply to a post, read it first.

>>45355595
I'm sure an attractive woman who was a model in highschool and got drunk at clubs and parties with her 'normie' friends during her college years and who also gets constantly hit on by men is completely pure.

>memoryholing the daily SEA raids of this thread

>>45355319
more like tenshi sex time

>>45355657
My issue with Aletta was that she overshares and the bits we get from her real life are not consistent with the keyfabe she pushes on stream.

>>45355757
>gave up on everything because she couldn't help not being a bitch to her coworkers
I'll never understand these menhera women

>>45355753
Yes

>>45355800
Shhhh, whorsecucks aren't supposed to pick up on that

>>45355915

>>45355757
remember yt raids with rm's and their names as avatars? bitches are crazy

>>45355657
that's all people in general

>>45355800
>>45355993
>"I was a hikkikomori, I got bullied for being a nerd, I had no friends because of my unique hobbies, I have social anxiety... woe is me"
>btw I was a model
>btw I had a normie phase
>btw I went to parties and clubs in college
>btw I get hit on a lot by guys
>btw I go to anime conventions in cosplay
She even bought a maid cosplay because chat told her too. There is only so much real life knowledge I can have of a vtuber before it starts to ruin my suspension of disbelief if it doesn't line up with her stream personality.

The only thing I hate more than a whore is a whore who pretends to be pure to get ahead in life.

>>45356332
Whorsebandos, don't look...

Miryu getting kidnapped again?
https://youtu.be/oxOjTsYS4TA

>>45356332
>>45356748
>woman
>interested in bongs
DYRBI?

>>45356332
I hate Nene for all the same reasons

>>45355800
whaaaaaaaaat you mean that the girl that can make 10 fetish sex jokes a minute, partied throughout college, has normie friends, puts herself in situations of getting hit on, seamlessly blends in with other blatant sluts, was a model, complains about gatekeeping, and prolongs drama with a holier than thou response vid in the "comfort" series lmao because she can't help but own the incels isn't a virgin nerd like me? Say it ain't so bros :(

>>45356834
Considering she's a half-bong herself and has been around them her entire life...plus, who's to say there aren't other types of guys around her

>>45310154
The person you love does not exist anymore. She went poof. Don't hang on to the past, it will only rob your future.

Nene's laugh is starting to annoy me

>>45356332
>>"I was a hikkikomori, I got bullied for being a nerd, I had no friends because of my unique hobbies, I have social anxiety... woe is me"
Slags bullied her hard and she's got a trauma. Stupid thing to have an issue with
>>btw I was a model
she worked 3 jobs at once at uni and that was just one of them
>>btw I had a normie phase
>>btw I went to parties and clubs in college
She lived with 6(iirc) other girls at uni and they took her out sometimes. It's just what happens
>>btw I get hit on a lot by guys
She's female
>>btw I go to anime conventions in cosplay
She was in a cosplaying group and it ended with girly dramas and hierarchy
Slurp it up.

>>45357153
>unironically defending the whorse
go back to discord cuck

>>45357153
>bad experience = trauma
kys

>>45356948
That'd be all the more reason for her to despise them, as for other types of guys I guess that depends how likely she would be to run into them but we're getting into speculation upon speculation

>>45357153
>Slags
I wonder what brown british shit fetishist typed this post

>>45357153
>she was in a cosplaying group
oh god, she got unironically ran through by guys.
Cosplayers are onlyfans models you can fuck at conventions pretty much.

>>45357383
how much do you think Nene's going price was back when she was doing the circuit?

>>45357377
This thread has like 4 or 5 bongs, if you check archives you can see them all materialize to defend their national obsession with Mr. Cuckside.

>>45356332
Holy based

Read the rules.
Every thread until we heal.

>>45357447
Professional cosplayers like Nene's twin sister room mate are probably safer than small town amateur cosplayer cliques like the one Aletta was a part of.

>whorse getting dragged
>"Nene? Nene? Guys, talk about Nene instead. GUYS, PLEASE DRAG NENE TOO"
el oh el

>>45356332
inshallah brother
good luck on your ramadan

>>45357539
Stop seething, you got caught out for your hypocrisy

>>45357606
>PLEASE YELL ABOUT NENE TOO, I AM LITERALLY BEGGING YOU
- u

>>45357606
Aletta and Nene aren't comparable at all discordtroon

>>45357679
They were both cosplayers, and as the other Anon said
>Cosplayers are onlyfans models you can fuck at conventions pretty much.

bros... please... help me deflect...

Nene JP collab!

Nene going to have a collab with a JP Vtuber next week

>>45356881
Nene isn't anything like the whorse

>>45357827
>>45357828
Me.

>>45357679
To be absolutely fair, Whorse pretty much only has her contradictory stories to go by since her PL didn't offer much. Nene, on the other hand...we'll just say she has pictures out there

>>45357539
>>45357606
>>45357927
I don't watch Nene for the same reason but only because I came across the secret knowledge.

From the few bits I have heard and watched she seems very careful around the irl part of her life and always has the "unicorn" point on view in mind when talking about herself behind the vtuber persona.
Aletta willingly exposed some inconsistencies between vtuber and real self. Had Nene never been doxxed, I would have zero issues with her. She would probably be my oshi even.

Gotta love how openly talking about Nene doxx is not only allowed but encouraged, but mention Charzu is a burnt toast, blends-in-at-night darkie and the thread has a cry about it.

>whorse that stops stream to dickride niji males and values a twitter follow over her fans and tells you how much of a normie whore she is
>angel that knows the game and says male vtubers don't exist
>THEY'RE THE SAME GUYS PLEASE BELIEVE ME
stop confusing chubbas breaking kayfabe with you digging through archives

>>45358091
Jannies are here only to protect SEA, not to actually stop Kawaii dox.

>>45358091
Noone actually gives a shit that Charzu is a nigger, its just to keep the genshinfags out

>>45357759
Aletta was a con whore for attention, Nene just liked dressing up in weird outfits.

>>45358091
/pkg/ has been anti-Nene since she inclined far and away from everyone else.

>>45358145
Only in your deranged mind

>>45358145
you woke up the cloudtomos

>>45358145
only during certain hours for some reason

>>45358091
Because mentioning Chazru dox is never relevant to her content will only ever be used in a negative way. Nene RM discussion on the other hand is usually just drooling over her ass. Also,
>talking about Nene doxx is not only allowed but encouraged
You're fucking retarded if you believe this lmao

>>45358091
who the fuck is charzu

>>45358312
Charcoal Suzu

>>45358218
If you can't see the clearly negative slant the thread's been on against her for a long time now then that's on you.

>>45358357
>If I keep attempting to rewrite history then surely I'll get someone on my side eventually

>>45358259
>never deleted unless you get unlucky 10 hours later a janny actually looks at reports
>never warned
>never banned
>brought up repeatedly despite Nene never mentioning any of it on stream
>no one ever told to fuck off for posting about it

>>45358440
You seem to be fucking retarded and under the assumption that I'm presenting this as a good thing.

>Nami's dad forced Nami to read strategy guides for him when he played games

>>45358357
it's mostly people making fun of sperging cloudtomos, Nene herself is hardly even personally attacked and her doxx is thread (maybe even /vt/) culture at this point

>>45358585
>and her doxx is thread (maybe even /vt/) culture at this point
Really going out of your way to prove his point.

>>45358652
it really just means doxx is fine as long as she's hot
Nene is hot, Charzu isn't

>>45358469
Jannies won't look at dox for hours unless it's related to a Niji or Holowhore. Even mentioning Gura or Noel in the same sentence as "dox" is probably enough to get this post deleted.

>>45357535
Read em
Obey em
Love em

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGz2UX04cIA
why are phase fans like this?

>>45359641
why are you posting this here?

>>45359679
this is the phase general

>>45359641
I bet Biden watches Panko or Gura

>>45359802
he watches Remi dipshit

>>45359802
biden would never watch a kawaii girl but her would come to pkg to beg for gen 4 chestlets

>>45359802
Biden only watches and paypigs the jewbas

>>45359802
>>45360068
>biden is the lolifag crying for uoh chuubas in kawaii
makes sense

>>45358585
>doxx is thread (maybe even /vt/) culture at this point
>it really just means doxx is fine as long as she's hot
Which is beyond pathetic because 3DPD turns out to be just a cope and entertainment value doesnt matter as long as the girl behind an avatar has a nice ass.
I'm just curious, how pathetic those people are to have their entire fucking life revolve around sex. Try fucking jerking off before watching chuubas and then see if you enjoy the person for who they are on screen.
inb4 someone calls me a roastie or a tranny for not being a brainless coomer

>>45360330
>angry at guys for finding attractive women attractive
I won't call you a roastie or tranny, you're probably just a woman

>take a break to check the thread
>it went to shit
Sigh

>>45360330
Nene's content is mostly asmr and similar coom baitkng
If her viewers weren't constantly horny they wouldn't watch her

>>45360408
I'm not angry if someone finds attractive women attractive. I'm just baffled that finding out what RM looks like determines someones entertainment value apparently. No wonder all those indie whores on twitter post their faces and other more spicier photos. That is probably the only way to attract brainless coomers to watch them. Filian say that she is "career ending ugly" and she has an audience that most girls can only dream of. I dont watch her but Im happy that people watch her for the character, no matter how retarded and zoomy it is, rather than for whats behind the screen.

Don't take anti coomer axewounds bait. He's just mad his balls don't work

>>45360662
>similar coombaiting
Ok so I'm a huge ASMR fag since 2014. I find Nene's ASMR to be preddy mediocre so I rarely watch it, and other than her short clickbait titles, I didn't really see a lot of coombaiting on stream and I watched her a lot in the past year. Nene is just a naturally entertaining streamer even without the GFE component. I watch chuubas mainly for that reason and thats why Isla is my oshi.

>>45360667
In most cases her IRL appearance absolutely doesn't matter to viewers. Some chuubas have been exposed as average-looking or even outright ugly and they'll still maintain whatever following they had. But if a chuuba goes out of her way to show off her body or is found to be attractive then no shit guys are going to go ape mode and jerk off to them.
Knowing the chuuba is attractive behind the screen"enhances" the experience for the viewers that care. If she's ugly then more often than not her viewers won't acknowledge her appearance or will just accept her regardless because she's entertaining. I think a lot of girls in Hololive alone can prove that. I'm not sure where this idea of "RM appearance determines my enjoyment of this chuuba" comes from.

My daughter Peony after she reads all the rape posts.

>>45360667
I have no idea what you're going on about. You must be an actual femcel because I can't understand why you're so upset. I would still watch Nene even if she were ugly. She knows what guys like and everyone here loves her. Being cute in real life is just a bonus.

lovely Euro hours

>>45360330
Welcome to/vt/ where unicorns think they're the majority and every girl who has any interaction with men or does something they don't like is reclining
the perfect vtuber should be grown in an artificial womb surrounded by female doctors, taught by female androids and have no interaction with the outside world whatsoever. They should be groomed from birth to one day ascend the throne as the actual Gura killer.

>>45361376
Any woman who interacts with m*les who aren't (Me) is a whore who should be avoided, this is true.

>>45361376
this but unironically
when AI becomes good enough I will just create my own AI vtuber gf whatever and retire from public life

>>45361376
>unicorns think they're the majority
we are, but most people don't even realize it and try to cope, the normal male state of mind is the unicorn, cuckholdry fetish is a sickness.

Let's all be nicer to both the talents and each other next thread.

strawberry cruller
>>45361632
>>45361632
>>45361632

>>45361376
A perfect chuuba needs to meet these requirements
>Complete shut in
>No interaction with males
>As dumb as possible and homeschooled
>Not getting vaccinated ever because something something jews nanobots in vaccines something
>Religious and trad because tradition matters so much to some fag on a Tajik turophile forum about anime girls
>Must be loyal to her fans, while most of them have 1 other oshi per corpo + at least 1 or 2 literal who's that they are trying to groom
Presidential background checks are nothing compared to the virtual idol ones apparently. Even real life idols dont get this level of schizo faggotry but openly perform with males and go on different types of gameshows with other male idol groups sometimes.
But here you have holos bring out that hypnotist or whatever and retards start screaming "cuckoldry".

>>45361852
Is this supposed to be ironic? That's the bare minimum my sis

>>45361105
Still would DESU

>>45361524
Imagine...
>small module to write their custom personality
>access to your desktop to stream whatever games you choose
>can load in whatever model you want
>and whatever voice you want
>Kronii's model with Peony's voice
>if you want can revolve their personality around your fetishes
>open source so people can make different mods for them

>>45361105
Worth getting stabbed for