/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>45192655
agreed fpbp

>>45192655
>whats wrong with providing no content for people who pay membership money

>>45193029
monthly content*

i don't think that little is worth $5 a month

lets not act like everyone who complains about not enough streams has a membership

>>45193182
well, i don't anymore...

Maybe they shouldn't promise to stream more frequently and not ghost so often only to ultimately fall back on it.

>>45192655
I remember when Kiara was sick they came dangerously close to having no EN streams for a few days. I don't know how an entire branch whose job is streaming manages to not stream. I ain't going to start watching indies or *god forgive me for uttering their name* NijiEN.
TLDR: it's their job.

>>45192655
I think it's fine to stream as much as a talent wants, but they should communicate their plans as best they can.

>>45192655
Rent-a-Chuuba.

most vtubers simps are the lowest of the low that's why complaining here is going to get you nowhere, gura can stream once a year and be showered with money, that's how it goes

>>45192655
globalfags operate under the assumption that every vtuber must cater to their commitment to doing nothing but watching virtual anime girls all day, once you understand that's how they are, this board will make much more sense to you

>>45192655
The moving, then sick now japan/holofes arc of my oshi with no schedules has gotten me so used to no streams she effectively got me unhooked from vtubing. I'm a bit sad but at the same time it was fun while it lasted.

>>45192655
It just looks bad to be a contracted worker who works once a month. It doesn't really matter when you make a gurillion dollars anyways.

>>45193182
What has that got to do with what OP said? Baffling post

>>45192655
My thoughts exactly.
Streaming once per month builds the hype for the next stream. Instead of doing it everyday

Are chumbuds the most pussywhipped fanbase?

>>45192655
Truuue. I think these streamers, who the public knows due to their streams, have monthly membership suscriptions and made their whole career about streaming should just stream 3-4 per year at most and not do anything else at all.
We should just transition into giving them money for existing and make them the vessels for shilling character merch kinda like a living version of Hello Kitty.

>>45195035
It's not their fault. Manipulation is strong.

>>45195035
no that's KFP

>>45193182
I mean, I'm still membered because I'm not some wagie poorfag and I don't care but I also think Gura's a lazy cunt who needs to stop intentionally scamming people

>>45197247
But what do KFP have to complain about? They already like Kiara so they love all the stuff (you) don't. Their oshi streams. She communicates. I personally don't watch Kiara because I dislike her game choices and her voice, but damn if I'm not envious of KFP

>>45192655
Maybe because it's a job and you should do your job. Other people work 40 hours a week the least you could do is stream a few times a week.

>>45192682
thats not how fpbp works you fucking fAG

>>45201999
I claimed it for myself

>>45192655
whats wrong with the idea of going to work say, once a month? why do some people act like workers must work multiple times a week?

Imagine market, shops ect being open just like one timer in month

>>45202947
If you think streaming is 100% of the job at a big corpo you are just plain dumb

>>45203142
Okay Anon, so WTF does she do expect that?
Compare to other Myth.
Ame - do a lot of IT and background stuff, made their 3D chibies possible ect.
Ina - she is artist that draws and designe stuff so I can imagine her helping with that in background.
Cali- Once a month she do cover or orginal song which is pretty insane imo. That require A LOT of work.
Kiara .... at least she stream a lot! cus I can't iamgine her doing anything in background.

btw all of myth stream more than Gura.

So please. Explain to me what shorks do? Like that retarded shark that can't even multiply correctly. What does she do in background?

If it wasn't for the fact that I'm a first week member I would have suspended my membershrimp by now. But I also understand that she has been staying in a foreign country without her normal setup, and has been appearing in multiple 3D streams performing dance routines that required practice and training that none of the other Myth girls did.
Do I think she should be streaming more? Hell yes I do, but streaming is not the job, being an idol is, and her dream is performing on stage. Let the girl live her dream.

>>45203590
>What does she do in background?
hide

>>45195035
Imagine not actually loving your oshi lmao
ChumGODS are the only ones on this board that have REAL love for their oshi. And Gura antis are all SEAmonkeys or the sisters.

>>45192655
Who cares when HoloFes is this weekend?
With HoloENConnect afterward.
Maybe even an EN3 announcement soon?
Looking forward to seeing Gura in her new idol outfit.
Get your tickets now:
https://hololivesuperexpo2023.hololivepro.com/ticket2/

>>45192655
Because it's their FUCKING JOB to stream!

>>45204809
>Because it's their FUCKING JOB to stream!
I Hololive, it's being an idol and shilling merch. Gura is accomplishing that quite well.
But for Nijisanji, it is their FUCKING JOB to just stream. Why they don't receive much from merch. Keeps them as wage/slaves.

>>45205083
Is your ass wide enough to fit other things or did you use it exclusively to pull that crap out of it?

>>45205161
Ask Pomu. Nijisanji doesn't receive shit from merch. Why Niji earnings are high with merch sales, while merch sales with Holo goes mostly to talents.

>>45205083
>this again
That's not what you watch Gura for though. 90% of the reason anybody likes her and began watching her in the first place is because of her streams. She may be singing, playing a game, talking in them or whatever. It can be multitude of activities, but the point is they were in streams and people got hooked to them STREAMS. Fans didn't get interested by twiddling theirt thumbs whule she's practicing behind the scenes in studio in Japan. Stop making excuses already using this paragraph from Cover's website as a crux.

>>45192655
>whats wrong with the idea of streaming say, once a month?
Generally speaking you don't have to stream ever as a vtuber because there were/are vtubers who only produce scripted videos and/or music and that's it. However, when it comes to Hololive and Gura specifically, you need to consider the following:
1.Hololive is pretty much known as streamers group and there isn't a single vtuber in the company who focuses on recorded videos, although La+ expressed her wishes to do so. AzKi was somewhat an exception to that with her music, but that's changed recently. Having 1 stream (video) per month on average is extremely low content output; even "retired" YouTubers often produce more. It just shows that you have barely any interest in your company that's focused on producing a lot of content.
2.Precedent. If your senpai earned their bread by streaming, and you streamed regularly for a period of time, and you have not publicly announced like Aqua that you're somewhat tired of streaming, then your fans have every right to expect you to treat it as a job instead of a hobby.
3.This point is mostly aimed at Gura. Creating fake expectations, ghosting and overall deceit is never a good thing. How many times has she now disappeared only to reappear and create an impression that she's now "back"? Chumbuds have created the longest cope list for their sharky (management's fault, Mori's fault, ame's fault, tempus fault, weather bad, tummy hort, quality>quantity, critique=nijinigger and so on). All that bullshit of guessing, blaming, manipulating and everything else could have just been avoided if she said that she's not really into streaming anymore, but she didn't because she knows that some/many fans that hold to the idea of her coming back would just leave and reduce her passive income.

>>45205283
You know it's not the fans that are complaining. They are not retards, and are able to see her streaming in others' collabs. Huurr durrr, I only see 1 stream on her page. It's an ironic shitpost, but there are retards actually believing in it.

>>45205161
Came out of Niji teammates mouths. They don't receive shit from the merch. They didn't even allow Selen to modify it. While Holomembers put their own money into it, receiving the bulk of the profits. NijiEN growth was high last quarter due to merch. The profits go straight to the company, while with Holo, much of the merch profits go to the talents.

>>45195035
They're competing with the Nakirigumi for that title.

>>45204809
You silly, she's just THAT good she doesn't need to stream more than once a month. The overwhelming majority of chumbuds can agree with me.
Besides, why would she even stream since she's basically a face of a company? She's in every second Hololive poster, and on the first page of every Cover corp report, just look at those numbers.

>>45205486
>1.Hololive is pretty much known as streamers group and there isn't a single vtuber in the company who focuses on recorded videos, although La+ expressed her wishes to do so.
i wish more holos would just start doing that, i feel a lot of them feel more comfortable doing that sort of content, like polka and bae. it'd be so cool to see.

>>45205712
Her most recent stream has dozens of people complaining in the comments section. Which doesn't sounds like much, but its more than what you see with most of the yabs that people bitch about on here.

>>45192655
what's wrong with never streaming? why should chuba stream at least once a month? you'll still love guwa even if she never ever streams right?

>>45192655
Go ahead, it's your career.

>>45206490
They tried with Miko. Videos only. But streaming saved her career. Yagoo did say that 3D is the future in his latest public statement. But as shown with Myth doing their training arc, it's overcrowded at the studio. Reason why Holo is going public is to build the largest Mocap studio. And most likely will see more of recorded videos. Love to see more like Gura's 3D showcase.

>>45205712
Some fans were/are complaining and have already dropped their membership due to her inactivity.
Source:me, other fellow anon ex-chumbuds

>>45192655
>She doesn't need to stream at a consistent basis
>She doesn't need to explain why she's absent so much
>She doesn't need to be more transparent with her fans instead of leaving them in the dark
>She doesn't need to finish playing any of her games
>She doesn't need to use new original fanart for her schedules
>She doesn't need to be active online in any capacity while on break
>She didn't need to stream more in 2022 than she did in the last 4 months of 2020
>She doesn't need to be a responsible live-streamer
>She doesn't need to treat this like a legitimate job

>>45206866
You made me check; silly me.
Even if it were true, dozens out of 1775 comments praising her is not going to be noticed.

>>45193029
Membership users are just cucks

>>45207201
You should know better than to believe the falseflags on /vt/. Gura won't notice them.

>>45205944
>Niji teammates
What the fuck is "Niji teammates"

>>45201999
fpbp

>>45207514
>falseflags
Not talking about those, I'm referring to people posting their year(s) long inactive Gura memberships. Few and rarely seen, admittedly, but not zero. Most chumbuds are staying "loyal" to Gura though.

I can't believe Kronii, Gura, Ayame, Shion, and Laplus were all Ricky Tan the whole time.

>>45207567
wage slaves

>>45207424
Cope. I'm sure you'll say they're samefagging.

>>45207791
They are just that good

>>45205712
It's actually insane to me that people think like this. Were you guys just not around when she used post a schedule of the multiple streams she was planning every week? Were you not around when she talked about wanting to get into endurance streaming and even did a 10 hour stream for her first attempt? Now she streams 3 times in multiple months and you actually expect anyone to believe there's any passion for streaming left in her because she showed up in a couple collabs

>>45193182
>you have to waste money on something that is overpriced to criticize it
The common view is actually that the people who are already bought in are the least objective because they'll need to justify their shitty financial decisions

>>45192655
What's wrong with it is that streaming benefits from consistency. If a chuuba has a schedule, then starts streaming sporadically and without an explanation of when to expect a return to scheduled streaming, if at all, some people will drift off.

>>45207495
Being a dedicated fan of any content creator is being a cuck

>>45207910
>Damn! He ain't gonna be in Hololive EN 3.

>>45205486
This, especially the last point, needs to be made into some kind of uneditable copypasta. Because that's exactly what chumbuds and defenders of her in general need to understand. Streaming at such a low frequency is simply not acceptable unless you have come out and said that's your plan going forward.

>>45207861
I'm not going to deny there are retards among Chumbuds. All her spare time has been at the studio, as told by her genmates. Chumbuds know that she's had a backlog of projects to be completed. Her 3D Showcase shows how much extra effort she puts in, even though she told her chumbuds to not expect much. And the only time to complete them is now. Her ambitions are set high, why they had to cut over half out of her last 3D Live before she got the greenlight. But she says to expect much more next time, to be completed by her Birthday. The others don't have such 3D projects planned.
If can't accept that Gura lives for the Idol work, then maybe it's best to move on.

>>45207911
>Now she streams 3 times in multiple months
falseflagger

>>45208550
Nigga, an idol is a musician with aspirations to eventually leave whatever idol group they're part of and join a real pop group. Gura isn't an idol.

>>45207761
>Most chumbuds are staying "loyal" to Gura though.
That's pushing it I think. You should consider the fact that anyone clever enough to notice deceit, repetitive lies and broken promises will have cancelled their membership and left quietly, without a fuss. So you won't even notice (especially not on here). Whereas those posting legit screenshots of them ending their membership are likely looking for a reaction or validation.

>>45208783
If knew Gura, would know that her dreams were to be like Hatsune Miku. And has stated that was the reason for joining Hololive. On top of streaming and 3D events, she now has a language and singing tutor.
A lazy person doesn't have such ambitions and actually making it happen. She is very selfish.

>>45208380
So she will be back then.

>>45209231
I feel sorry for you.

>>45209396
Not as sorry as her.

>>45207308
>She doesn't need to finish playing any of her games
Gura isn't the only holoEN member that has that issue. When you exclude the game series with time limited perms Ina has only finished 2 games in the past 18 months. I wonder if management has any idea why they have lost their motivation.

>>45192655
This is fine for high effort content that actually takes a while to produce, No so much for a silly shark girl just talking for an hour.

>>45207156
I'm not talking about taking a chuuba and making her do 3D content instead of streaming, but having the holos who clearly shine better doing that content actually do it. i see no reason for miko to do prerrecorded content, but gura definitely has a knack for it, for example, and she should exploit that.

>>45203643
You know that YouTube literally uses those membership length icons for the explicit purpose of tricking retards in to thinking they possess some sort of value right? You’re essentially falling for a light NFT scheme.

>>45210763
>Gura isn't the only holoEN member that has that issue.
You're right there. Ina, Fauna, Ame and Kiara have all finished plenty of games. Especially the last two.

this must be a troll pretending to be a chumbud, there is no way that a chumbud would lick gura boot that hard

>>45195035
>pussywhipped
That implies you have a signifigant other and you get pussy at least once in a blue moon. This is worse. Chumkeks can't even get their oshi to pretend to give a fuck

>>45211692
>>45195035
>>45196004
>>45206059
>>45211422
>>45211252
>>45211427
Gura isn't your personal live straaming slave you obvious anti CHUM MEN get more pussy than you SAPFAGGOTS and TAKOKEKS so shut up and choke on a black dick

>>45212857
Holy seethe

>>45213198
fucking suck my dick jealous sapling

Come home chumbud.

>>45192655
Tbh I only started liking Gura right before Holofes last year when she started being true to herself and being a blatant idol +Holo fag. The current Gura that’s doesn’t care about streams and only thinks about 3D lives is unironically for me. Shiny trident nigs can suck my none shiny trident cock

>>45192655
Nothing. She's Ayamemaxxing and getting free money. I would too. You would too.

>>45192655
Lol do chumbies really?

>>45208855
Most in this case meant the majority. I've no doubt that a number of people have, quietly or not, left her membership/viewership, hell I can attest to that. I do however think that those that have left are a minority, with the majority of chumbuds either patiently waiting for the shark to reappear only to ghost them again, or are ghost memberships that have forgotten/don't care enough to cancel.

>>45193182

Absolutely irrelevant. People as lazy as Gura are still drawing an absolutely astonishing salary and SHOULD be expected to actually "work" for it.

Mori, by her own admittance, was in the highest tax bracket in 2022, meaning the absolute least she could have made was $539,901. Seeing as Gura got about $50k less than Mori in SC revenue alone last year and is more popular, it's safe to assume she is easily within the same range, most likely much higher as she sees near 5-6x CCV as Mori.

That means Gura is making a high 6 figures each year for doing absolutely nothing.

It doesn't matter if Anon A has a membership while Anon B doesn't, Anon B can still be pissed that she's getting so much and doing nothing. She IS a mooch, no matter what's going on with her. I don't care if she's pregnant, I don't care if her health is absolutely shit and she'll be dead in a year, she is a mooch.

Cover likewise is doing insane harm to themselves by allowing her to continue with this. They either need to fire her or lock her into a contract that REQUIRES her to stream. She's the worst offender but similar needs to be for all of their talents. No one should be able to do nothing and live the high life, period.

>>45203142

What is she doing and how does it benefit the viewers then?

They ALL have meetings yet the rest of them are able to stream.
Many of them create songs yet they're still able to stream.
Lots of them literally have 2nd lives they live and do, yet again, they're able to stream.

So what is it that Gura is doing that takes SO much of her time that she literally can't stream? People like you need to just stop with the denial; she's a lazy fuck that has no problem stealing $5 a month from thousands, if not hundreds of thousands to millions of people, it's as simple as that.

>>45219990
>So what is it that Gura is doing that takes SO much of her time that she literally can't stream?
literally, unironically, hiding.

>>45192655
There's nothing wrong with it
Just be honest about it from the start instead of ghosting
Also don't complain if people start calling it lazy because it is

>>45213954
holy based and same
I enjoy streams but I also have plenty of holoJP to watch. I developed a respect for Gura for the same reasons you stated.

>>45192655
The absolute state of chumbuds.
Whether or not this is a shitpost they will actually latch onto this cope.

>>45192655
>once wrong with the idea of working once a week?
>what's wrong with the idea of working once a month?
>what's wrong with the idea of working once a year?
>what's wrong with the idea of working once a decade?
>what's wrong with the idea of no longer working at all?

>>45221201
I get where you're coming from, but I been full-time for more than 30 years now and given the chance to sit on my ass and collect merch royalties I'd be out the door before my boss finished saying goodbye.