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*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*>https://playboard.co/en/>http://ikioi-ranking.com/>https://vrabi.net/>https://www.vstats.jp>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-rankingHololive sites>https://holo.poi.cat/>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html>https://trackholo.live/en/Nijisanji sites>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly>https://twitter.com/2434rankings>https://twitter.com/2434subscriberTwitch>https://sullygnome.com/>https://twitchtracker.com/>https://stats.roki.sh/Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp
>>45163018I'm really getting sick of this EN3 EN3 EN3 EN3 when they JUST started ACTUALLY giving EN support and projects. Let them fucking work on that first before throwing in a 3rd into the pile and then refusing to support the existing girls
>>45163064Recent clip numbers>>45106539>>45106561>>45106595>>45106627>>45106655
We like elves here
So what did we learn from the last thread anons?
>>45163018>4 view levelPut on the breaks PhaseCuck. You have one talent who can pull those kinds of numbers. The only reason she can pull those kinds of numbers is by appealing to the worst kind of people on the internet (kiwifags and Ethan Ralph drama dick riders).
>>45163064>HOLOLIVE BOARD>HOLOLIVE THREAD
>>45162983You might as well just said you pulled it out of your ass if that is your source
>>45163134>Accident
* YESTERDAY'S FINAL TALLY *>106,097: Koyori (Hololive)>73,613: Pekora (Hololive)>63,054: Pekora (Hololive)>24,322: Nornis (Nijisanji)>23,103: Subaru (Hololive)>22,537: Noraneko (Nijisanji)>19,534: Noel (Hololive)>19,383: Lauren (Nijisanji)>17,342: Kanata (Hololive)>16,356: Yashiro (Nijisanji)>15,935: Iroha (Hololive)>15,408: Salome (Nijisanji)>13,444: Hayato (Nijisanji)>12,818: Botan (Hololive)>10,568: Aqua (Hololive)>10,246: Met (VSPO)>10,183: Nerumero (Indie)
>>45163018>but when an entire small corpo is born and inclines to low 4 view levelOther than pippa which phase member is in 4view territory?
love irys simple as
>>45162384that's the most influential thread for you!
>>45163134Qrd on the picrel?
>>45163134
>>45163187LOVE LOVE LOVE MY WIFERyS!!!
I miss Fauna
>>45162984Anon it took you that long to realize this? Faggot even tried to backtrack
>>45163064https://twitter.com/h2osakana/status/1636234682319912960>We've finally finished the audition process and decisions for Phase03 have been made! A big thank you to everyone who showed interest and auditioned for Phase Connect!From what I heard he wants to [accelerate].
>>4516298313.5k? If the expert says so.
>>45163173The fox hag sometimes
Just a friendly reminder, I fucking hate Brazil
>>45163198Kek
What happened sapkeks? Are you guys too poor to support Fauna? This is the exact same type of stream as well, lmao.
Apparently "yesterday the company announced that it had applied to the TSE to change its market classification to the prime market" (Deepl). I guess that's why the stock isn't available today, I don't know why I wasted my time trying to get a proof from nijinigs
>>45163170>MARCH 2023 GOLDS1) Nerumero (Indie) - 32,543 - Genshin gacha2) Mio (Hololive) - 42,700 - Mahjong tournament3) Gura (Hololive) - 67,405 - 3D showcase4) Toya (Nijisanji) - 68,467 - Oekaki no Mori tournament5) Miko (Hololive) - 138,977 - 3D birthday live6) Marine (Hololive) - 39,525 - Minecraft w/Kanata7) Miko (Hololive) - 42,738 - Soulcalibur 68) Pekora (Hololive) - 52,296 - Clubhouse 51 totsu9) Subaru (Hololive) - 33,648 - Minecraft10) Suisei (Hololive) - 45,471 - Micomet mocopi Switch Sports11) Lamy (Hololive) - 44,322 - Clubhouse 51 w/Kanata, Chloe & Marine12) Shion (Hololive) - 96,477 - 3D birthday live13) Hal (Neo Porte) - 139,050 - VSaikyo 5 teams announcement14) Pekora (Hololive) - 32,152 - Minecraft15) Koyori (Hololive) - 106,097 - 3D birthday live>PER COMPANY12x: Hololive1x: Indie, Neo Porte, Nijisanji>PER STREAMER2x: Miko, Pekora1x: Gura, Hal, Koyori, Lamy, Marine, Mio, Nerumero, Shion, Subaru, Suisei, Toya>2023 GOLDS>PER COMPANY56x: Hololive14x: Nijisanji2x: Indie1x: Neo Porte, VSPO>PER STREAMER22x: Pekora6x: Marine4x: Toya3x: Miko, Mio, Subaru2x: Koyori, Kuzuha, Lamy, Nerumero, Nijisanji, Okayu, Suisei, Towa1x: Choco, Gaku, Gura, Hal, Himawari, Hinano, Hololive, Ina, Kiara, Mito, Mori, Nozomi, Polka, Roco, Shion, Watame, Yashiro
>>45163173none, sometimes Tenma touches low 1k and very rarely Lumi and i mean VERY rarely
>>45163134That for some reason niji rrats are easily spreading to groups and communities outside here after the whole copyright shenanigans
3d soon!
I fucking told you last thread to apply yourself.
>>45162983Where did you get 80%?
>>45162384KEK which one of you is this?
Last thread was fucking trash and all the Nijiniggers that posted there should kys.
*YESTERDAY’S FINAL EN TALLY*>3/15 DAILY TALLY6,437: Vox (Nijisanji)6,132: Baelz (Hololive)6,048: Amelia (Hololive)5,001: Gavis (Holostars)>EN GOLDS FOR MARCH 20231) Mori (Hololive) - 18,696 - Monopoly (w/ Amelia, Magni, Vesper)2) Vox (Nijisanji) - 8,614 - Return Stream3) Gura (Hololive) - 67,405 - 3D Showcase4) Amelia (Hololive) - 39,353 - 3D Showcase5) Hololive English (Hololive) - 57,045 - Myth 3D Collab6) Fauna (Hololive) - 6,793 - Penumbra7) Kiara (Hololive) - 24,018 - Myth Offcollab8) Shu (Nijisanji) - 10,195 - Return Stream9) Ina (Hololive) - 14,532 - Minecraft10) Vox (Nijisanji) - 10,791 - Charity Stream11) Pomu (Nijisanji) - 19,891 - Outfit Reveal12) Kiara (Hololive) - 9,341 - Karaoke (w/ Towa)13) IRyS (Hololive) - 8,742 - Minecraft14) Kronii (Hololive) - 20,086 - Birthday Stream15) Vox (Nijisanji) - 6,437 - Little Misfortune>PER COMPANY10x: Hololive5x: Nijisanji>PER STREAMER3x: Vox2x: Kiara1x: Mori, Gura, Amelia, Hololive English, Fauna, Shu, Ina, Pomu, IRyS, Kronii>POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)21p: Vox18p: Fauna13p: Kiara11p: IRyS9p: Mysta8p: Ina7p: Shu6p: Pomu, Baelz, Amelia5p: Mori, Gura, Hololive English, Kronii3p: Uki1p: Pippa, Elira, Rosemi, Mumei, Luca
>>45163266be ready, your oshi about to get mogged by Kronii's
>>45163294I liked the Mumeis. Especially the swimsuit one.
>>45163309>2023 EN GOLDS>PER COMPANY49x: Hololive23x: Nijisanji2x: Holostars>PER STREAMER8x: Mori7x: Amelia5x: Mumei, Baelz, Ina, IRyS, Vox4x: Fauna3x: Mysta, Gura, Pomu, Kiara, Kronii2x: Selen1x: Ike, Flayon, Alban, Elira, Luxiem, Finana, Millie, Luca, Regis, Enna, Rosemi, Hololive English, Shu>2023 POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)59p: Fauna54p: Ina50p: Mumei49p: IRyS, Amelia48p: Mori47p: Vox46p: Baelz33p: Mysta31p: Kiara22p: Kronii17p: Luca16p: Pomu15p: Gura13p: Selen11p: Uki9p: Millie, Enna, Ike8p: Finana7p: Regis, Shu6p: Elira, Rosemi5p: Flayon, Alban, Luxiem, Hololive English4p: Vesper3p: Sonny, Hakka, Magni1p: Meloco, Shinri, Gavis, Axel, Maria, Pippa
>>45163266I want to see her FEEEEET
>>45163330dont care I want to see all CouncilRyS
>>45163173Tenma has an average of like 600 to 700 viewers, and has enough buff content that sees her breaking 1k somewhat regularly. I wouldn't call her a 4view, but she's still inclined reasonably well for her audience bearing almost no resemblance to Pippa's.
>>45163228>From what I heard he wants to [accelerate].Any reason for this?
>>45158908>perform shady actions>people are more willing to believe you're shady in other ways tooIt's not rocket science
>>45163330Literally who gives a fuck about who's mogging who. You can't even bring numbers into this because their part won't be during the free section
>>45163228ACCELERATE doesn't really work with the "menhera asylum" type of corpoSakana is retarded if he does that
>>45163236SIUUUUUUUU
>>45163408> You can't even bring numbers into this because their part won't be during the free sectionOh believe me I can, I would look at every spike at the graph.
What was the outcome of that poal that was circulating around, who do we love in this thread?
>>45163228heard from who, these phase auds have been running for over 6 months before closing thats not really accelerating.
>>45163394how much is regularly?
>>45163472Gura
>>45163228With all the corpos that died recently, I guess he wants to get his hands on all, those ex-corpos indies before someone else does
>>45163394>her audience bearing almost no resemblance to Pippa'sGood because Pippa's is cancer.
>>45163472Numbers
>>45163236
https://archive.ragtag.moe/watch?v=21XwhyFQPo0>That shot of her wave turning their back on her草
>>45163472>>45163503Gura who? Pekora who?
>>45163467I do hope you go to a specialist for your schizophrenia.
>>45163089It's funny you mention that, because the support and projects are leading to even LESS streams and content than before. Half the fucking branch is effectively out of commission right now. Any momentum they're getting from things like the 3D showcases and having to prepare for HoloFes is getting wasted. On top of that, out of the remaining members, they are often out due to their own off stream activities, health issues, and breaks. They NEED MORE PEOPLE. Imagine if JP had no one but Gen 0 and Gen 1 for almost three years, do you think they would have grown to the size they got to?
>>45163472Watame if you want good blessings.
>>45163170
>>45163236>>45163437O HEX-ACK
>>45163428Fishcuck has been getting increasingly desperate since Jewcorp opened the EN branch, he probably wouldn't have even thought of debut a new gen if Jewcorp weren't around.
Oh neat, Mori's recent cover of Kawaikute Gomen has already surpassed the view total for her "I'm Greedy" MV. It needs a little over 100k to beat the view total for the "Dance Past Midnight" MV.
>>45163538Your pic is outdated
>>45163540I'll do anything to spite on saplings
>>45163089Actual retard.
>>45163089Anti-EN3 anon..
>>45163472It got botted by schizos who hate Peko, they were voting up all the JPs except for her
>>45163089>holoretard gaslit himself into thinking 2 years of no new talents is a GOOD thingOh wait, I forgot about the 8 males you got LMAO. Heres a tip from a viewer of a corpo who just posted record profits instead of flaunting dead subs; nothing Cover does for a bunch of entitled whores phoning it in will attract new viewers. Your product is stale and losing mindshare every week.
>>45163594Actual latest
>>45163502NTA but Not that regularly. 980 on her last youtube stream, just short.her collab with AlbinoVEVO on twitch other day hit 1000+ but >twitchand her first Atomic Heart stream hit 1400~ about 3 weeks ago or something.
>>45163623>Suisei, Miko, Aqua, Marine, and Korone were the JP members ahead of PekoraI mean, this seems legit. All of those have big fanbases. I would buy your conspiracy if it was somebody like Roboco ahead of her.
http://www.tokyoipo.com/sp/top/en/index.php?j_e=E&id=pre&seqid=2975#0Cover offering price decided at 750 yen per share (~30x PER). Offering phase ends in 6 days, have much are you buying/#/?
>>45163596Mentally ill retard.
>>45163657>1000 total votesSo where else was this shared
The niji concert was at least better than the stars one, right...right?
>>45163657sorry if i shared it with my fauna erp d*cord, all of us were UUUUU-ing
>>45163657So Sapkeks can vote in a poll but they can't even support Fauna?>>45163244Same kind of stream too
>>45163706A bunch of splits, probably global, who knows where else.
Holy fuck you're still trying. Appl yourself.
>>45163658
>>45163686im not buying since from the small number of shares they are selling the ipo thing feels more like a scam
>>45163236>Enter random vtuber stream>Types in chat:>"COME TO BRAZIL">vtuber is left dumbfounded>Never elaborate>Leave
>>45163680Pekora not having a big EOP fanbase is not a surprise to anybody. I thought it was some important poll but it’s just stream watching pollSo lol
>>45163706Anon 1000 votes isn't equal to 1000 people voting, it's a multi choice poal
>>45163686I'd literally invest 20k USD if I was able to. Japan being complete fucking xenophobes makes that very difficult.
>>45163686I'm going to buy the dip on tech stock and banking stocksNot wasting my time with entertainment stocks, too volatile
>>45163134LET HEX ALONE!
https://files.catbox.moe/caruwd.mp4FAUNA DUNKING ON THE STREAMER AWARDS KEK, saying it's just a popularity contest
>>45163686>less than half of Anycolor's market capI thought Cover is supposed to be the bigger VTUBER agency
>>45163797>>45163754
>>45163686I can't get proper channel to get into the IPO lottery from my country, so I can only purchase it after listing date ahhhh
My betrayed wife
>>45163686Riku saving money for this lol.
>>45163712Stars had a really fucking good concert anon.
>>45163744>tempus and iluna hit>entire scene just fucking slumps on all fronts
Thought?
>>45163398>>45163486>>45163428>>45163505He likes nijien business model. He tried to rush gen 2 out, but was told to fuck off by the talent. Anyway, since phase has a bigger exposure now, fishcuck got an access to a bigger pool of possible talents, which should lead to faster gens.And there is Phase Invaders where they accept already existing persona into the company, and those were confirmed too.
>>45163696>mentally illtrue, but saplings and I aren't that different
>>45163797that's not how stock prices work
>>45163830>Riku not having any confidence in nijisanji jumps ship to hololiveI can buy this rrat
>>45163795go upload it as a clip on youtube, coward
>>45163712stars looking good https://youtu.be/SdBwBXVhhic?t=2073
>>45163818>>45163797>>45163754Holy nijinigs.
>>45163680Nah, it was definitely tampered with. If you want more reliable numbers just look at the /hlg/ survey.https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1rTiiYS21gGWjyCV02I2iuHurbOxdLP-Zqk0GNnGbCM4
>>45163880I already downloaded it as a clip, anon KEK
>>45163712I've never seen a stars concert or stream. But the screenshots looked several times better than the niji concert.
>>45163686>10x book valueDoes tech investors really? Anything above 2x is a scam
>>45163795man.. Fauna is so salty Gura did not win the best vtuber award. This woman is ready to go fight the whole Twitch community for her oshi
>>45158339>>45158440>>45160616>>45160933>>45161068>>45161728>>45161992>>45162540>>45163220Make you guest, anon! Are these interns, paidshills, the soon TBD livers, or the current livers themselves?
>>45163883Oga playing with his scythe always looks good
>>45163860>pranking
>>45163830You joke but this is a real possibility. There is no lack of big corpo just buying out their competitors to eliminate them, it’s actually been a problem in western world for a while now
>>45163795based ngl, i may give another watch to her song
>>45163472/#/ number thread's favourite EN chuubas.
>>45163883Damn that actually looks better than I expected. I still remember the bloom/Holofes 2 days when it was just a camera pointed at the screen
>>45163309This is grim afI'm not sure the 3D showcases and holofes are worth all the subpar streaming in the last couple monthsParticularly Gura who is still supposedly spending so much time in the studio even after her 3D showcase was recordedThat girl has an inexplicably serious problem with communicating to her fans
>>45164009Half of those dont even stream
>>45163860Kinda impressed it got drawing for Sana when she barely did any drawing streams compared to say, Mumei.
>>45163869That's exactly how valuation works. That's why I didn't go as far as saying they're less than quarter of Anycolor.Cover needs to open to at least 2000 yen per share to go neck to neck with Anycolor
>>45163919Why are you so bothered by a literal 4chan poll anyway? It’s just a poll bro
>>45163472Those poals are fucking useless because no matter when and how you conduct the poal people will always bot mumei,gura, irys and fauna to be the top 4
>>45163983Its Intern kun he also comes here around EU time to reply to hours old posts regarding anything that is negative to nijisanji management
>jwuDildo yab is stupidest and funnies thing nijiniggers ever created
>>45163995she used to prank your fucking ears in collabs
>>45163919>Miko still beats out PekoraWhat was your point again?
>>45163795*Twitch popularity contest
>>45163919peko slippedalso the next slide says koronesuki are dying out, rip
>>45164068
>>45164009you think EN management finally found out why those girls are the most popular and what they have in common?
>>45164044Anon, I think you forgot the purpose of their IPO, they are not racing with Anykara, they just want the money for that fuck huge studio
>>45164048Bogdanoff cats
>>45164040Sana is an infinitely better artist than mumei.Not to say mumei is bad, but she doesn't draw for a living. Still probably the 3rd best EN artist behind ina and Mori rn despite barely drawing recently.
>>45163686I'm betting everything that just like Anycolor, Cover will begin very high and over time they will be losing it because investors are retards who think vtubing will make insane amount of money without researching at how much it actually makes>>45163862He doesn't like NijiEN model, thier CEO LITERALLY was one of the first investors for anycolor in 2017
>>45163983its the NDF bro. He's working awfully late it seems
>IPOthat... doesn't mean what you think it means
>>45164097What, why is this shit so official? Are they actually taking this seriously?
>>45164052you don't need to bot those 4, they're pretty much always the most popular ones in this thread
>>45163795>I know they're mostly just Twitch focusedBASED>Do we hate The Streamer Awards or was it just not that interesting?BASED>Community vote? That kind of is just a popularity contestBASED
>>45164104That doesn't change anything anon, going for that studio via opening your shares to public shows the market valuation of your company as a side effect.
>>45164116I hope he's at least getting paid overtime
>>45163983What do you call this level of bootlicking, anon?
>>45164161Nah, IRyS is botted. The other 3 actually have a sizeable population of users.
>>45163686 #I'm betting everything that just like Anycolor, Cover will begin very high and over time they will be losing it because investors are retards who think vtubing will make insane amount of money without researching at how much it actually makes>>45163862 #He doesn't like NijiEN model, thier CEO LITERALLY was one of the first investors for anycolor in 2017
>>45164081Look at the 6th slide. Also, it's not about who is on top, it's about the unnatural gap.
>>45163919>35p more than nousagisLies! No one watches that bitch!
>>45164113>>45164158?
>>45164158Faze 2.0
>>45163919It's not an oshi poal, it's a who do you watch poal.
>>45164192no, there are definitely a sizable number of irystocrats here. reminder that cripple tallyanon was an irystocrat before he ragequit
>>45164052Wow almost as if we are on an ENGLISH website that is known for watching mainly EN GIRLSThe fact you guys are even arguing this seriously about a 4chan poll is insane
>>45163983*place your betsThe English in these threads man
>>45164048Is this Jill's PoV moments before his untimely demise?
>>45164187>What do you call this level of bootlicking, anon?Thats just the normal nu-nijifan anonThey are the same people who find it ok for the livers to get screwed over as long as riku and the investors is getting rich
BOTS BROKE AGAIN LMAOOOOOOOO
your post bots broke again you dumb intern
>>451642096th slide is basically "who is your second favorite". Naturally Miko would be at a disadvantage here since more people had her as their #1 favorite. I can't fault you though since you are a noutoddler and are naturally dumb.
Kek
>>45164113Most of those retards probably bought into Anycolor and realized that already. I expect Cover to be more reasonable and stable.
>>45164167It’s funny since OTV won best org of the year and it was literally because OTK pissed off the W/L community so they voted for them instead. It’s all useless circlejerking.
AIIIIIII, GPT BOT SPAM IN THE THREADSAVE ME GOOKMOOT-SAMA>>45164113>>45164158>>45164199
>>45164274Fauna...
intern kun your bots need updating again
>>4516421035p have always run this shit
>>45164169True but that doesn’t mean Cover need to pull trickery “just to match Anykara”. It’s not their goalYou are suggesting a corpo to base their entire strategy around horse racing with another corpo. Literally Nijinigger behavior
>>45164097>koronesuki are dying out>when she's the third most liked
>>45164113>>45164158Anon?
>>45164213>>45164199bot is working extra hard, please andastan and ignore it
>>45163919>7.6% watching indogs, 3.2% watching holostarsI guess hlg is not as tainted as hlgg.
>>45164269No, retard... 6th is about overall popularity.
>>45163259anon you can say its holofags anti-nijisanji breaking containment on dramafag channels and on twitter like bannedvtmemes and cringevtuber shit. we all know that and its nothing new, it has been done even before the copyright bs
>>45163795>I know they're mostly just Twitch focusedBASED BEYOND WORDS>Do we hate The Streamer Awards or was it just not that interesting?BASED BEYOND COMPREHENSION >Community vote? That kind of is just a popularity contestASTONISHINGLY BASED AS FUCK
>>45164192>>45164044>>45164015>>45163975>>45163920>>45163863>>45163797>>45163722>>45163596>>45163658>>45163330>>45163244*cums on you*
>>45164305They need to if they have any marketing materials that suggest they are the leading Vtuber agency in Japan.
>>45163983>guestAt least double check what you're posting
>>45164312Its called internet getting down
> There was an attempt half a year ago to stealth debut a mixed wave> Rye was part of it> Gura found out and used her daki as an excuse to snitch to JP management> Entire gen shitcanned> Next wave of homo auditions called, two waves of homos debuted to punish Gura> She goes on Hiatus and does an rm post, causing JP management to rush to get the issue resolved again> Starts networking with JP holos to tell them about how shit EN management is> JP upper management notified, entire EN management fired, Yagoo now sitting in on meetings> Vesper fights back against this and gets his ass suspended> Fresh auditions called for all 3 foreign branches (homos unlikely to debut)> Fes preparations so EN3 will be late, Gura given prominent positions in promotional material to keep her appeasedRate my rrat
>>45163919>44.3% of correspondents think hlg is absolute shit to stayThen why stay?
>>45164346The level of cope is off the charts. Miko won the poll for #1 oshi which is the vote that really matters which is why it's higher up on the slide list.
Wait guysIf StreamHatchet or whatever streamer number ranking only count gaming stream then don’t basically half of Marine big number stream this month is disqualified? Even Pekora stream yesterday doesn’t count as well
>>45164413this shit isnt even fit for the writing general anon
You know whats interestingI remembered last year that there was also another fag who tried to use his bot to spam this thread also around this time with random nijisanji members doing random things
>>45164228"Make your guess" is perfectly fine, but he fucked that up. I hope it was just an autocorrect.
>>45163795Just link the actual clip...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aX8gF01VU9U
>>45164425No moderation
>>45164452no free view for you sapkek
>>45164425Where else do you discuss JP streams during JP prime time? Definitely not global.
So you can bring your goodsmile figures to take a photo in their booth.
>>45164378
>>45164397who is this retard?
>>45164039doesn't matter fir numberchads, they got pretty graphs
>>45163996a) Cover listed a minority of their produced sharesb) He can't afford them
>>45164397I think only Anykara ever marketed themselves as that, and the fact they removed that from their website already make it a moral victory for Cover, or at least that Anykara is not that confident at their title anymore
>>45164349thing is they used to get some pushback before the copyright bs but now i even see some nijifans who were doing the pushback diving in and peddling the rrats
>>45164105EN management is too incompetent to pay attention to trends that don't involve males
>>45164471#
>>45164068I think the pirated nipple torture porn incident was much funnier
>>45163686>750 That's it? I can buy like ... 5
>>45164397They don't. Moron.Only Nijisanji ever claimed it, and that was years ago now.
>>45164439They counted all streams anon. Some anon speculated they're skipping non-gaming streams due to discrepancy against other trackers, but it doesn't add up when you actually counts them. The discrepancy exists because of different intervals and moving/skipped schedules.
>>45164397>marketing materials that suggest they are the leading Vtuber agency in JapanWasnt Nijisanji the one who marketed themselves as that but suddenly removed it?
>>45164105rarity buffs?
>>45164534Come on anon if you have time to shitpost online you are not that poor, even if you are an indog.
>>45164274the real and authentic Unculled numbers if YouTube didn't cull every Council member during the cull season of 2021
>>45164105All reason aside, they are just inoffensive, literally just that. Everyone love a girl who aren’t rude or wouldn’t attack anyone
Is this place genuinely infected by bots?
>>45164573>Fauna>Rarity?
>>45163657>GuraCute>MumeiCute>InaCute >Irys Good talker >FaunaGood talker That's it
>>45164644since last year>>45164445I blame the faggots who posted the zhang mountains in reddit which caused the ndf and niji interns to camp the thread
>>45164105they dont do anything ?
>>45163134I remember there was a time YT demonitize Holos for showing too much skin
>>45164644No way, Mr. Anonymous. There would not be any reason for there to be any bots here.
>>45164694>>Irys >Good talker
>>45164644I think there's always been bots, but it's definitely gotten worse over the last week and a half or so.
>>45164413I love this Rrat. BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED
>>45164739She is a great talker. It's what she is known for. Always the best call in on any Totsu and she always goes back and forth with chat during her streams with little dead air.
>>45164668it's rare for her to stream something interesting :^)
>>45164694Since they're the best of EN, what should EN3 learn from these girls?
So, when will Zaion drop the colony on Nijisanji?
>>45164694>IRyS>good talker
>>45164831don't stream or form a close relationship with your fanbase and either talk about banal popsci shit you picked up from reddit or the four anime takes you have.
>>45164818If that's what she's known for then it doesn't inspire confidence in her future.
>>45164413>> There was an attempt half a year ago to stealth debut a mixed wave> Rye was part of it> Gura found out and used her daki as an excuse to snitch to JP managementGura saved hololive from the homo parasitic invasion. Same-chan, I fucking KNEEL.
>>45164837Once her streaming career isn’t in the dirt.
>>45164839Yes I can listen to her talk all day, like now.
>>45164942I could listen to her tangents all day. Does she not talk about Holostars enough for you?
>>45164938literally thisdon't put out songs or creative content, just focus on being a cute/clippable background noise, your CCV gonna soar since western vtubing audience loves low effort shit like react content
>>45163919>Subaru, Lamy, Watame, Shion, and Laplus are the only Holos who have gone down in popularity over the last yearImagine having one of those losers for an oshi.
> jwu> new nijiyaband the clock keeps turning...
>>45164938No. They should talk about their irl shits including their relationship with their parents and other previous coworker. They should tell you what they eat today and what colour their panties are.
>>45164969Painting a pretty grim picture of yourself there mate
>>45164948>>45164413>waveAlso who the fuck is Rye?
A cute robot is streaming Valorant on Twitch
>>45164009My wife Mori is determined and on track to join the winning side of EN.
>>45165088Based. I love it when they're incredibly distant and secretive and have zero topics they can hit on other than ones that explicitly relate to their incredibly thin character lore. That's peak vtubing, zero substance white noise feelies.
>>45165100Some retired indie chuuba that some schizo forced in here for a while as a sure HoloEN3 candidate, until she debuted in IdolEN.
>>45165209ah the green haired girl who had a russion superpaypig
That image of Mori is haunting. Please stop posting that shit.
>>45164831>GuraBe as charismatic as her while being cute>Mumei Not much to learn, just be cute>FaunaLearn to talk >IRySI don't watch IRyS >InaWisdom (and rarity buff)
>IRyS list requirements for games:>Must be beatable in 3-4 streams for "reasons".>Must not require too much thinking.>Can't require her to have to unpack something she already owns.>Must be playable without having to ask for perms beforehand. >Must be something some JP has already played or talked about.Any ideas?
>>45165305>Must be beatable in 3-4 streams for "reasons".Haha fuck off
>>45165305platformers genre.
Momocashew, the lead singer from the band Mili is in EN3. This Rrat is too potent to not be true. What a catch!
>>45165305Mario and kirby
YOU WILL NEVER BE JAPANES->SHAMIZEN MUSIC STOPS!Mom is clearly trying to fish him out if the hole, “tempting with anime”. Somehow I doubt the inclusion of “Nijisanji”, he would be interested in their japanese brand
>>45163983This level of schizo makes rimbjob anon look like a well-adjusted individual.
>>45165305What even is this list of requirement? Sound like she want to play JP FOTM
>>451653053-4 6 hour streams maybe.
>>45163795>No catalog thread/vt/ is reclining
oh hey it finally ticks
>>45165305John Wick za vidya game bros. Our time has come.
>>45165466She is not a gamer.
>>45163712>>45163883>Literally the lab rats of Cover's 3D divisionKek, do you guys expect anything less?
>>45165132fool me once...
>>45165474Fauna only gets threads that shit on her, not her being "based"
>>45165408kid's gonna be alright. I'd rather have my 11 yr old kid watch Pekora than do tiktok or watch zoomer retardation on YT
>>45165476Should have bought the dip
IRyS is being retarded againhttps://files.catbox.moe/bnkhcv.mp3
>>45165476>HE DIDN’T BUY THE DIPHAHAHAHA
>>45165305Halo bros. This is our calling.
>>45165305>>Must be beatable in 3-4 streams for "reasons"can't she 1-sit the game?
Nijisanjibros, how do we feel right now as the stock goes up?
>Take a closer look at Hex drama>Nigga actually have a BDSM dungeon as stream background>Now holding a dildo, totally not accidentally No fucking way this yab is real, it’s too out of this world
>>45164044If you knew how valuation worked, you would know never to make commentary on IPO price because that is just a random number aimed at getting the best result out of the fewest amount of shares. Hell, we don't even know where the stock is going to end by the end of the year.
>>45165627my pp hard
>>45165628She's saying longer games has to be 3-4 streams max. 1 sitting is probably good for her too.
>>45165574This Mito for real btw, she really did put this on her channel.Goes to show why the Niji old guard is disappointed with the current bowdlerized idol-lite trajectory Niji is going.
>>45165627good, i'm happy, that doesn't mean the bot will be deactivated tho
>>45165627Heh good to know I profitted from Niji
>>45165562actually true
Holofes POV stream! Fuck, they really want to incline these faggots, but beggars can't be choosers. Guess gotta watch that stream
>>45164503where are you seeing that and who are those nijifans? im going to bet they are nijien fans
>>45165731i will go to sleep after the free part, or stay here to check the pics, unless they are illegal like anykara's
>>45165731I'd rather watch any of ID3 than these losers
>>45165731>here is your "EN3" watch-along, bro
>>45164167>>45164355Alright, you win Saplings, I will watch your oshi
>>45163797Mate, Cover was never ever even close to the size of Anycolor. Hell, back right before the holocaust, when Anycolor was already in a big fucking building, Cover might have been some 20 niggers in that office floor that is depicted on Hologra. The day Cover overtakes Anycolor in company size will be the end of an era as the later used to be some five times the size of the former
>>45165574Isn't this still the dip?
>>45165765>where are you seeing thatvtuber groups and discord that im a part of even some youtube comments> im going to bet they are nijien fansyes
>>45165790Those aren't saplings and they'll just as easily turn on her for any perceived slight.
>>45165637>>Nigga actually have a BDSM dungeon as stream backgroundTomoe have one for years too and use it to this day. thats not relevantnot even the fucking dildo should have been if the underage fans werent retards
>>45165731>HolofesAnon it says right there that the stream is for EXPO not, the Fes
>>45165731Says hololive super expo, not holofes. They're two different things right?
here is weird collab streamhttps://youtu.be/8Xm51Srnssg
>>45165731Learn to read, retard.
>>45165817Do you feel in charge?
>>45165627Revenue and profit among other info from their documents are a lot more valuable
>>45165637It just seems like such a retarded idea to have the heavy hitters of your branch openly have adult content as their main appeal. Unless you're having the whole lot of them go all-in on PornHub or something.
I didn't know anycolor stocks also knew how to Z
>>45165862shh anon, he wants to shit on the homos, let him do it because if not he will make more anti EN shitty baits
>>45165817Anycolor has currently 288 employees while cover iirc has almost 400. in size cover has been larger for a while>>45165837 i knew it was nijien fans, they are fucking ignorantwhat vtuber groups and discords and whta channels
>>45165887huh isnt that blue guy the ceo of some very small korean agency?
>>45165927It's just a raid. Gotta see if they can keep it.
>>45164497>>45164564>>45164565And it was precisely because we were making fun of them than they did.
>>45165932I don't really care about shitting on homos, but I know that faggots going to try to spin this into a shot at Hololive.
>>45165942vtuber memes and clips one for the channel its the 2 dramafag channels
>>45165942>Anycolor has currently 288 employees while cover iirc has almost 400Not that I would doubt (Cover went into a hiring spree recently) but the numbers for Anycolor look a little on the low side. They have more than 250 livers to manage across all branches, I doubt they have almost 1:1 staff to liver ratio.
>>45165986why the fuck are you on dramafag discord channels anon
>>45166049dramafag yt channels anon not the discord channel
>>45164274What's this an alternate reality where council reached 1mil and we're getting EN3?
>>45165957yes
>>45165817Anykara has like 1 manager for 10 chuubas ratio, and of course your profits will be bigger since none of those go back to your talents and/or staffs
>>45165849>Dumb anon likes to assume things You're currently in Fauna colony. Try to blend in or ship out.
>>45166042No they manage around 130. ID and KR are pretty much ignored so i wouldnt count them, while VR is mainly managed by bilibili staff sice its a joint venture (not even ever mentioned in therdocuments outside of history of the company)here the employee total from last results
>>45164413What's this weakass rrat doing here in /#/
>>45164831Unless you're a social autist who hates males and can roleplay as a child, don't botherActually, don't bother with Vtuber, period, you will not be welcomed
>>45164413Got a better rat than this>Be Niji Sanji, the All Blue Pirate>Most income is from Merch/Commerce, Event & Promotions>Streamer dont get shit, got cut from SC, membership, even better cut in Merch>Dont give a fuck about how Streamers do since muh accelerate, can always make new pets>Good streamers are hard to get? Daijoubu, get in touch with Chinese Bot farms through investors, and get the numbers high. Salami and Akumer gonna be famous.>No money, stop the bots, muh decline of 1milion and Luxiem is fine, since IPO is over>Make management stir up dramas to make their brand more well known in the west, better merch sales and sponsors>Deploy operation Niji Drama>Streamer got stringent rules to not upset any POTENTIAL sponsors>Huh? Zaion make fun of Square Enix and their rules of no mods? No no no she got to go>Ermmmm maybe Niji event like concert wasnt so profitable? muh setup so costly le>The most drama worthy gets the price, and 2022 awards goes to Enna and Kyo, the cuck couple. The award is that they can form their own clique, approved by management.>What? Stocks are declining cuz investors has insider news and are selling? NO NO NO fake these numbers so they gets as high as possible. Its not like they could found out. NEVER in history a company faked their financial report to investors.
>>45166155HOW IS THIS ALREADY ON THE CATALOG
>>45166105Anycolor is more of a merch and promotions company, I wouldn’t doubt that ratio you mentioned but they surely have a big sales, accounting, legal and procurement team to deal with merch, sponsorships and partnerships.
>>45166062>>45165986what rrats are you even peddling there
>>45164413I do think some turmoil happened behind the scenes. Remember that Gura mentioned a $200,000 price tag on a new cover track. It involved covering tracks alright. She used that money to hire a hitman and a filthy homobeggar manager lies dead. Their body sunk into a bog. The sudden disappearance was unexplained, they can only suspect that it was done because of the homobegging.
>>45164938>>45165046Now this is what a peak Gura anti is like KEK
>>45164528yeah that one was hilarious enough to make it to terrestrial TV : https://files.catbox.moe/3vdqeg.mp4
>>45165132P-please don't untomboy my oshi...
>>45165962So they got threatened by like a dozen of anonymous posters? Guess they didn’t deserve the number one title then
>>45165927https://jp.reuters.com/article/idJPL4N35O01O>Hot stock: ANYCOLOR is buying, positive impression of upward revision of earnings forecast>(Reuters, Tokyo, March 16, 2012) - ANYCOLOR, a VTuber business listed on the Growth Market, is starting the day with a buy interest. On the previous day, the company announced that it had raised its earnings forecast and applied for reclassification to the prime market, which provided clues.>On May 15, the company announced that it had revised upward its non-consolidated earnings forecasts for the period from May 2022 to April 2011, raising operating income from 7.7 billion yen to 9.2 billion yen and net income from 5.3 billion yen to 6.3 billion yen VTuber group "NIJISANJI" and English-speaking VTuber group " NIJISANJI EN" are progressing better than expected at the time of the previous earnings forecast revision. On the same day, the company also announced that it had applied to the Tokyo Stock Exchange for reclassification to the prime market. At this point, the company has not yet decided whether or not the application will be approved or when it will be approved.https://ssl4.eir-parts.net/doc/5032/ir_material1/202480/00.pdfAnd info about what prime market ishttps://www.jpx.co.jp/english/equities/market-restructure/market-segments/index.html>Prime market: For companies which have appropriate levels of market capitalization (liquidity) to be investment instruments for many institutional investors, keep a higher quality of corporate governance, and commit to sustainable growth and improvement of medium- to long-term corporate value, putting constructive dialogue with investors at the center.>global investorsThey are trying to scam overseas investors now
>>45166176You do know there’s multiple anons camping this thread to get new bait material, right?
>>45166192im not the one peddling it anoni just noticed that the rrat peddling suddenly became a lot easier now since a number of people automatically agreethe latest one i saw that broke containment was the elira clique thing
>>45166105In their own documents they relate the staff payment, and for the talents they all get the standard cut from the industry, with the merch thing being the only amount we dont know the fixed numberbefore someone points out the kuzuha tweet to me, that was also the time they had fixed salaries, so i dont think that should be used as a point of reference because things changed 5 years later. what is known is merch having less than 30%
>>45165408It's kinda unfair how easy the word "hololive" is in english compared to obviously foreign "nijisanji" and wtf "liver"
>>45166239>They are trying to scam overseas investors nowthey dont need to since theres a ton of chinese companies waiting to invest in them
>>45166239Bili2 not gonna join the fray?
>>45166239That financial report did wonder huh
>>45166121>here the employee total from last resultsThey might be outsourcing a lot of stuff then because that’s low as fuck. I get the 2020 numbers, that’s from the era of>give them an iPhone with the software installed, a pat in the back and off they gobut right now with their “idol-y” pivot, they surely would need more people
>>45166239Faze 2.0
>>45166249drama channels always had a lot of vt users so im not surprised about it, but normal users falling for that is beyond stupidity if they dodrama channels also are very insular so idk
>>45166298might be using the job order loophole
>>45165305Just play some multiplayer game at that point, 45 minute sessions would be easy to fit in her streaming schedule
>>45166239>putting constructive dialogue with investors at the center.great more shitty sponsors
>>45166203Fucking theater performers trying to scam my shark wife. Probably already judged her after seeing her vtubing profile>this bitch really is a cartoon shark girl. Just say some absurd amount so she fucks off
>>45166239anon most of their investors were chinese and japanese
>>45166239How many of these buyer do you think got fooled by the fiscal year they use for the financial report? A bunch of them probably thought the latest report is for the current month
>>45166327>drama channels also are very insularthat really isnt the case after some anons posted some dramatuber watchers comments here and we found out that there was a big overlap between them and the nijien audiencemight be the reason why anycolor chickened out of their plan to take down the dramafags
>>45166384unless they are complete retards, they all should know how quarters works
>>45165476Nice> 3.9k previous close3k FLOOR BAYBEEE
>>45166282>>45166360They clearly need more foreign investors because the price kept dumping. They are aiming for non Chinese investors
>>45166385how much "big" that is. Im of course aware many of them do watch those garbo, but I dont think its something very huge
>>45165731This will not be the only one anon
>>45166327>but normal users falling for that is beyond stupidity if they doMost normal users also see the khyo and false channels anon and the recent fumbles that nijien management did might be the reason why some normal users are quick to jump on it
https://twitter.com/shirakamifubuki/status/1636262646948454400?s=46&t=vAuMk6FVLkrJxgLS90A6gwGOLD GOLD GOLD60k minimum
>>45166414so howlong will it last
>>45166239> For companies which have appropriate levels of market capitalization (liquidity)Ahhh that explains all the hard cash that they never reinvested
>>45166403>unless they are complete retardsthese are suits we are talking about anon i wouldnt put it past them to be retardsthese are the same group of people who thought that a new spiderman movie should focus on jamba juice and crossfit since it was in with the kids
>>45165817Remember that in 2022 anykara is already a listed company which has larger funding and cover is technically a startup until next-next week. Though it’s going to be hard to attract institutional investors because of their bad relationship with China Kek.
>>45166435from estimates it was 30-40%
>>45166282Investor also likes getting scammed, Anon, if it means they can use it as proof to scam other indiv stock buyers and funds.
>>45166455Why is Marine spamming these collabs? I'm getting some Sana flashbacks
Nine month ago and you guys would be calling this screencap “fake and gay”
>>45166535HoloFes hype. Cover probably ordered these girls to go all out until HoloFes
>>45166384>>45166403You would be surprised. Most investors only buy hype. Chart going up? Buy. Chart going down? Sell
HoloX HoloFes countdown tweet is still the most liked one but Sankisei is catching up with only half the time
Fauna is a stupid lazy whore. Bae will be streaming all week but not Fauna! She'll do yet another shitty member stream then fuck off until her birthday then fuck off again for a week. 2 streams in what's going to be 2 weeks. Meanwhile Bae is streaming like normal. I hope she comes back and there's significantly less people watching her
I miss guraDoesn't help that her substitute is currently going through another one of her menhera health issue phases
Anon, Anykara is always the bigger company compared to Cover. I don't know why people think otherwise. The fact that Cover's revenue is close to Anykara >>45165817 is amazing but they are not bigger than Anykara.
I just read ANYCOLOR's financial results for the nine months fileIs it not a common things to use justify for the texts' alignment of official reports?And why the fuck they keep 10 billions yen in cash and deposit? Their profit before income taxes is big, isn't it better to spend it for expenses rather than paying more tax?
just saw this in another threadthe absolute state of nu-niji fans and interns
>>45166550Stop being disingenious holokek.
>>45166634>And why the fuck they keep 10 billions yen in cash and deposit? Their profit before income taxes is big, isn't it better to spend it for expenses rather than paying more tax?Gotta have liquid assets on hand just in case someone wants to jump ship
>>45165817>The gap is getting smaller and smaller each year.Is 2023 the year?
>>45166589Fauna didn't even get any superchats despite doing the same kind of stream as IRyS. Sapkeks are poor as fuck.
>>45166673i doubt it
>>45166535>spammingkekAlso: people asking why the JP girls are collabing more often are dumb or weren’t around for the prev Holofes. There are two reasons1) they’re together more often because of rehearsals and sometimes even crash at each others places. Used to be Coco’s house (closer to the studio), now I’m not sure, maybe Marine-Lui-Lamy hag complex?2) without the chink coof the girls are 20 min tops away from each other by underground.
>>45166634They needed it in order to jump to the prime market and dump their shares on international investors>>45166239
My cute wife!
>>45166642look >>45164299
>>45166634Nijifriend said Anykara paying more taxes is good because it help build the country
>>45166693She'll be the first en not to sell out of her limited edition within minutes. That's if she even gives a shit about her fans to do it
>>45166535>>45166569>>45166704They wanted to do BabaCorn collab for months you retards.
>>45166673No. The studio is going to stop that from happening
>>45166673nah, this year anykara will spam tournaments
>>45166780Didn't the last tournament not do as good as expected?
>>45166774Expenditures aren’t related to sales revenue, which >>45165817 chart is about.
>>45166642it's been known for a long time that nijikeks oshi is the company and not the livers
>>45166815I didn't read the chart.
>>45166594Actually I wonder how much money anycolor rake in when they are doing collabs with snack brands and such. I don't hear about Hololive doing them that often but it seems with Niji there are new promotional events with a brand of snack every other week. I think promotions are pretty low in terms of revenue generation for Cover right?
>>45166803Wait for koshien, 500k no cap
Real low qaulity bait today.
>>45166861SEA-wide imageban, cant really shitpost rn
https://youtu.be/tzZKn8uwItoNIJI GOLD
>>45166693>>45163244Hey hey hey now, at least wait for another thread before reposting lest you get reported for spam my friend!
>>45166155off topic, but retards who obsess over superchat numbers and membership need to internalize how small the red portion is
>>4516689230k
>>45166889test
>>45166892im gonna laugh if this concert is better than nornis
>>45166889
>>45166732You posted my cute daughter
>>45166925It will 100% beat it
>>45166842Now you’re just straight up lying.
>>45166739damn they are using bots instead of hiring more interns
>>45166889ISP issue
>>45166842Not a lot, considering the sales volume, the price and the low profit margin of food products
Count the Guras, /#/.
>>45166964i meant quality wise
>>45166998It will 100% beat it
>>4516699611the red one is an impostor
there are at least 3 hoomans in /#/, why
>>451669960 streamers
>>4516699611 Guras and 1 imposter
>>4516699612
What did I missed?
>>45166892at the same place?
>>45166442they are retards if they believe on complete rrats like elira clique>>45166519thats way too much, even more when the majority of fans dont actually like dramafags
>>45167066yeah
These likely sold very well for Goodsmile to reissue them.
>>45167064https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03dWkmG9UUwYou missed this stream?FUCKING HOT
>>45167064Moona ratiod
>>45167064Pekora's insides are going through the fire and flames
>>45167064Management forcing Pekora to reply to Moona
>>45166892how could riku be so stupid?selling out the same space back to back means that they will have to payback double the rent money to the venue owners is this where that extra money from the stocks is used instead
Just take the L holokeks, this is pathetic.
>>45167090if it's the same quality i will laugh, if it's better i will be mad
>>45167080>they are retardsthey watch nijisanji so yeah they are
>kiara revelaing her new hair>dropping the news at fucking 11pm>stream at jp prime timeman could have easily be a cripple gold.
>>45166834>>45166642>>45166739i dont believe in that i see a lot of en fans on twitter shitting on en management a lot when they fuck up, id fans too with the treatment to exidjp fans who speak english too for all branches and jpthis is mostly a vt thing
was nornis concert that really low quality?
>>45167099No I did not, I missed the tweets
>>45167023>Imposterඞ
>>45167180Yeah. The best part was the music and it wasn't something that works in a live
>>45166042I actually wonder what the hell Cover is doing with all those ~400 employeesThey've quadrupled their employee count since 2 years ago and have only expanded the total roster by about 60% (47 to 75)HoloEarth isn't an AAA title so it probably is allocated only a couple dozen at mostMost of the rest of holo alternative is outsourcedManagement hasn't seemed to improve much - hell, EN management is still a dumpster fireHologra can't be a big team, since they've been doing it since they were much smaller (nearly 4 years ago)They are doing a lot more lives and 3D events, albeit constrained by studio sizes, and more merch and marketing...but to require 300-400 employees?Sounds like it might be a bureaucratic mess, more so with growing pains from that rapid expansion
>>45167156>i dont believe in that i see a lot of en fans on twitter shitting on en managementI see a lot of them defending management too even for the retarded stuff like the vox reimu thing a few months back or the yugo thing
>>45167199any webms? dont feel like giving them a view if that is the case
>>45167205I'm sure they are doing something. It wasn't even that long ago where the general accepted opinion was "Niji 3D is superior and on another level from what Hololive is putting out there". Now Hololive absolutely blows them out of the water when it comes to 3D. That massive turn around happened in a fairly short amount of time too.
>irys's card was rejectedholos are living in the poorhouse...
>>45167205They hired all their relatives.
>>45165408What i find hilarious about this anecdote is that, it's about an American kid, but even he would rather do his JP reps and watch JP instead of watching EN. That tells you all you need to know about the current state of the EN branch
>>45167180being nervous their first time it's understandable, but the lightning, the 3D and not making them practice some movements beforehand it's just ridiculous if they are trying to make their own idols or singers
>>45167205Take your time sister
>>45167205Dont each talent get 1 on 1 personal managers aside from the overall managers? And from the way their 3d improved to the point that it shits on any niji 3d im guessing they put a lot of those people there
>>45167240nah, japanese cards will block after some number of usages a day. that is why you see some holos running to the store to get prepaid cars for their gatcha.
>>45167235https://streamable.com/zy4ghhIt was basically this the whole time
>>45167205When you have unproductive shitters answering to four or more managers before you get to top level management and NO ONE EVER SEEMS TO KNOW WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON it should clue you in to the fact that Cover has SIGNIFICANT staff bloat.
>>45167297I'd feel bad for them but they are the ones who chose to join Nijisanji so in the end it's their fault. They should have known what they were getting into.
>>45166892why on official channel, sololive usually on talent channel no?
Look at this AMAZING HomoEN raid retention
>>45167297nijien dodged the bullet. i cant imagine it not being this bad. question is if holoEN will be able to do something as quality as half of holofest
>>45166998place your bet it being prerecorded souless shit.
>>45167365like holofes?
>>45167297I mean the quality is on par with the talent quality so i dont see the problem here
>>45167336didn't you read their graphs? all of them are just to make the main channel bigger
>>45167354>something as quality as half of holofestThat's a tall ass bar. Connect should be good, at worse it will look like a normal Hatsune Miku concert
>>45165408>Actually can watch EN>Still pick JPHOOOOOOOOLLLY BASEEEED!
>>45167336nijisanji doesnt want any talent to grow bigger than their brand because the moment they do they will quit
>>45167335belib in anykara, the chest money will be used to upgrade their 3D and will be better than cover's!
>>45167385Sololive vs Fes, I don't give a shit about fes like I don't care if they prerecord NJU but whats the point of sololive if you are going to prerecord it and even going as far as hiring professional dancer for the mocap.
>>45167205JP has 35 active talents, EN has 10, ID has 9. They didn’t use to but in the past year or so most got their personal slave (aka “manager”) so for the Holo girls alone 54 girls are managed and if you give some margin for overlap, on low paid modern day servants alone they have 45. Add Nodoka, A-Chan and the “named monsters” that appear on translation credits and the such and you have 60 on low level support staff alone. Other than A-Chan (likely a stockholder) all of the rest are low paid peons as well, reason for which most are swapped at the drop of a hat. It’s a much better arrangement than having one peon having to juggle five to ten girls like it used to be in 2020
>>45167385no, holofes prerecorded has soul. there's a difference
>>45167443>chest money will be used to upgrade their 3D
>>45167297That's actually not as bad as I expectedSinging is decent3D AR is fine from what I can tell from 540pLighting is kinda badObviously didn't do dancing reps, let alone actually practice togetherHow much did the tickets cost?
>>45167443>>45167474And by 3D he means rikus' 3rD yacht
>>45167443they cant even make their 3d attach pngsyou think chink technology will be better?
Just take the L holokeks, this is pathetic
>>45167478An anon said it was 9900 yen, I recall>>45161848
>>45167489>And by 3D he means rikus' 3rD yachtkek
>>45167489Riku onegai
I didn't watch the Nornis concert but I did see that clip and it felt kinda half baked, the direction was poor too. I only mean in presentation by the organizers rather than the performers. It's ludicrous to ask for fancy choreography when they're singing live but it felt like they were told to just move. A quick look at vstats shows all three of the girls' streaming output being down the past three months so it is obvious they did put in the effort. Maybe they had the A-list event organizers working on something else.
>>45167478The link doesn't show the awkward MC section and you can see the reflection of the light pens on the monitors
>>45167495holy fuckholfest are 6-7k a day
>>45167478yeah it's not that bad, their synergy is a mess tho need to work on that.
>>45167252>>45167427>many of whom are from Japansounds like the kid does watch EN, he just watches other Hololive members too because the lure of the holobox is too strong.
>>45165408lol, bad times to learn japanese.
Just take the L hoIokeks, this is pathetic
>>45167478Thats what i said, the quality of the event reflects on the quality of the liver
>>45167478It wasn't that bad yeah, but screams of amateur work. Screen panel quality was also pretty bad with the lighstick reflection. Toko's first sololive had much better production imo.
>>45163134lets spam this picture everywhere
>>45167495That's the cost of about 75$?! Fuck me, the free concerts were miles better than that shit
>>45167460>JP has 35 active talents, EN has 10, ID has 9.They also have 21 homosThey may all be shitters, but they're using up substantial management, marketing, hologra resources
>>45167456>hiring professional dancerI didn't see that from any recent hololive live or the free part of NJU. The dancing is too bad for that.
>>45167492what L ?no dramaholo expo is closenumber is good
>>45167297well an actual concert worst than sankisei fantasy one.
>>45167559I believe Pekora's and maybe Rushia's first concert performance was better. It was that bad
>>45167584the bot is broken again >>45167529 >>45167492
>>45167584probably talking about no EN streams and easy cripple gold for nijien.still holofest is here so we will see
>>45167523>H..he stil watch EN I swearENshart is pathetic
>>45167529This one used i to write holo>>45167492>>45167132This two used Lbot is improving
>>45167585let's not be delusional here even if we shit on nijinigger everyday let's not go that far 3rd gen concert was fucking garbage.
>>45167585Fantasy concert has been warped in my memory to be the worse one, but I do remember it being more fun to watch
>>45167570They lost their best manager. Makes me wonder if there are bad times ahead.
>>45167658its not worse but on par with that
>>45167612>>45167585No, fan fun island fucking sucked. Don't kid yourselves now. Imagine having your audience pay premium venue price just to have them watch a theater performance with one segment of crowd interaction? Even as an online watcher I was considering on charging back.
uh... bros?
>>45167253Any shot from the front close up was bad but it looked okay from a distance and from profile.
>>45167618ah EN...just hoping to get a good EN3 talent after holoexpo
just take the L holokeks, this is pathetic.
>>45167688I was talking about Holofes 1, not the gen 3 concert.
>>45167495suisei sololive was 9,680 yen including tax and everything lmao what the fuck
>>45167715Ah, then that's hands down holofes 1.
>>45167693Met's worst enemy
>>45167722you thinkk black company is a meme
just take the L hoIokeks, this is pathetic
>>45167221how is management even related to the vox reimu thing, thta was entirely them lol
>>45167456not NJU but ROFMAO + King + Kanae
Pillars of HoloPro>Kobo>Pekora>Mio>Mori>Subaru>Korone>Fubuki>Miko>Marine>Gura>Towa>Suisei(No Aqua)
>>45167693IT'S GONNA Z
What's this weird shit on the main Holo channel?
>>45167585No. Nothing is worse than that. That retarded storyline, the set list, the limited choreography since Rushia moved like a diabetic, the lack of soul since it wasn't even live. It was panned everywhere. At least it was only $45, the Nornis one was like $80.
>>45167779>Iori Moe
Hololive should make Holoph. It's no surprise that Hololive is very big in Ph. There is the fact that streams and clips by Hololive are being viewed more and more by Filipinos. Aside from that, independents from the country have been gaining significant traction, even amassing a small international following.
>>45167509>It's ludicrous to ask for fancy choreography when they're singing liveI agree that it would be silly to ask for fancy choreo when they’re angling more for the>singer and songwriter audience than for the “idol” “all rounded” audience but I disagree that it has anything to do with singing live. Singing live and vigorously dancing on stage is a staple of pop music for forty years now, specially for girl groups.They were unable to do not because it was live but because it clearly was not an aspect they valued.
>>45167779
>>45167629show me on the doll where EN hurt you anon
>>45167845>Holoph
>>45167848Their song also doesn't support that kind of choreography in the first place.
>>45167854Are those men or women?
If you're all bored you can try numberfagging these scalped tickets:https://ticketjam.jp/tickets/hololivehttps://ticketjam.jp/tickets/hoshimati-suiseihttps://ticketjam.jp/tickets/nornishttps://ticketjam.jp/tickets/mori-calliopehttps://ticketjam.jp/tickets/kanae/https://ticketjam.jp/tickets/kuzuha-v
>Bang Shi Hyuk, "K-Pop's growth is slowing, this is the start of a crisis... won't be resolved even with BTS' return"Even Kpop is reclining...
>>45167854uhh they are not good.
>>45167896Show proof or link
>>45167570Yeah but they likely have fewer peons at their disposal The number given was just to show that a lot of the workforce is indeed needed as it starts the process of fixing one of the big problems for Holos in the past>flying blind because of amateur indie vtuber mentality and attitude
>>45167896youtube killed kpop...
>>45167693I'M RICH
Bros, they are gonna kyoani holofes.
>>45167584you're talking to an automated spambot>>45167132>>45167492>>45167529
just taketh the L, holokeks. This is pathetic.
>>45167961>>45167697nijifans will help
>>45167896K-pop will be dead even before BTS makes their comeback in 2025
>>45167888that's a lot of Shout In Crisis Ticket
>>45167994*nijinigger
>takeththis bot is going old english now
>>45168017What's the difference?
>>45167854Is Noel gonna have another seethe attack because they gave her a flat cosplayer again? Sora looks like a toad. Those aren't great in general, I see way better from weirdos on twitter. Or at least better photoshop.
>>45167994>Niji EN calling anyone cult of mental illness the ironing
>>45167032Because Hoochad and Sapking run this thread
>>45163686I'm just going to collect one lol
>>45167845What the hell is Holoph? Some kind of angels? Holophim?
>>45167920https://n.news.naver.com/mnews/article/023/0003751914?sid=103
>>45167961man imagine if a real JP nijinigger actually kyoani holo HQ and get on the anime circles around the worldsisters would have to make damage control their entire lifestyle
>>45167828It's hard to imagine the same gen with Marine in it can pump out such a shit concert, like there's no way Marine could have agreed to such a scriptSomething went terribly wrong during production and even Pekora knew it as she warned everyone beforehand
>>45168048Noel's seethe is correct. If you are going to do a professional cosplay shoot of her, you better hire someone with milker to match
>>45167896will never understand the appeal of Kpop, I guess It's the same as Isekai genre where everything is copypasted with the same formula, feels so souless.
>>45167882That’s where backing dancers enter. I’ll use as an example this song>Kylie Minogue - Chocolate (Live From Showgirl: The Greatest Hits Tour)https://youtu.be/LiXNYiC-GP8Kylie didn’t have a lot of latitude to dance here, being a slow song and with mic in hand. Show production just got the backing dancers to do more or less the same choreography of the video clip in the back, and Kylie followed with gentle hand movement. Producing a live is hard and the difference between a mediocre one and an excellent one sometimes hinges more on the stage producer than on the artists themselves. Nornis clearly lacked that.It’s not just for idol shows, regular artists benefit from that as well.
>>45167896Korean military service kill Kpop
>>45168080Holo phosphorus. They want Yagoo to make the philosopher's stone
>>45168048that one Suisei cosplayer is great.
>>45167845Yea, and we are even richer than id, it is a low hanging fruit.
>>45167896korea in general is reclining, that's what you get when you're relying on the u.s too much
>>45168143Based North Korea killing cringe K-pop.
>>45168048What seethe? I need the sauce
>>45168115>Something went terribly wrong during production
>>45168158>ph even richer than id
>>45168158True, not to mention that everybody and their grandmother knows what anime is here. The Philippines consistently tops Google Trends when it comes to anime and weeb-related searches. Even more specifically, the Ph is also consistently part of the top 10 when it comes to vtuber, nijisanji and hololive themed search terms. Sure, not all of those searches directly translate into viewers, but it shows that in general there is an awareness here about vtuber subculture.
>>45167693Riku's gonna get his 3rd yacht soon
>>45168177https://youtu.be/jgoJuJiWtf4?t=2833This is life without Rushia.
>>45168177Nah no way the boring script is Rushia's fault, at worst she only hold their choreography back
>>45168115Anon, compare the quality of Sankisei members performance before and after Rushia's termination.
>>45167845nah, just keep using bots and support nijisanji flipkek
>>45168136I think they want to copy Kalafinahttps://youtu.be/LEAuF6x1LqwBut to copy Kalafina, they need great vocal to captive viewers...
>>45165408Even a murica kid would rather learned japanese than to watch ENshitter RORU RUMAO EVEN
>>45168177Rushii couldn't make rehearsals since she was busy hunting for some aliens to impregnate her
Why indogs against HoloPH? It's none of your business.
>>45168258how about phillipines? will they learn japanese?
now i want to see if vtmemes, falseeyed, khyo and containment breakers will talk about anykara stock like they were doingas if that even was representative of the performance of the company
>>45168308JP taking over PH all over again
>>45167922Man I really hope it worksCover has lost its agility since it exploded in 2020, so all this new professionalism better be worth itFrom an EN perspective, the previous year felt like a holding pattern along with some strategic blunders and a constant undertone of unresponsive upper management
>>45168252>they need great vocal to captive viewers...Yeah, add to that the fact there is no upside in doing a “sit and sing” show behind an avatar, it negates the whole benefit of the technology while maintaining all of the downsides
pekor?
>>45168270All Philippines vtubers turn out to be terrible people. Millie, Luca, Hex, Mysta, Oceane, the commie metal bitch, Terumi.
>>4516703612 idols
>>45168214I like how gen 3 has costumes that show them aging up expect the Elf. It's perfect
>>45168339Why is Pekora becoming chatty lately? She wasn't this approachable before.
>>45167495For comparison Mori’s NUO Sololive which was 24 songs cost 7k yen for an in person ticket.
>>45168339She wants the moonacock
>>45168319They'll wait for it to go back down and make fun of it again, which will happen.
>>45168349Hex is a peenoise?!
>>45168339 >4:32
Nazuna 2k
>>45168349None of those are Filipinos. They are Canadians, Brits, Indogs and Americans.
>>45167585Let’s not go crazy here
>>45168394I don't remember her playing this many FPS games in the past
>>45168391Yeah, Taiwan time. Any issue?
>>45168385i forgot to put this in therebut yea i know i look at game company stocks and that shit fluctuates a lotanykara stock is probably between 1k-3k when its more stabilized
>>45167180The music was good. Chima and akina were really nervous but, toko and the band carried it well. Other than that.. the 3D was kinda janky and nothing else to complimented the performance (choreo, lighting, effects, etc.). All in all, it was mid. Feels like watching holofest 1 minus the cheers to hype things up since either niji, the vendor, or the venue was being autistic about the rules
>>45168399Where do you think "Holo PH" would find their vtubers? People in mud huts and shacks in Manila? It would be all 2nd gens and expats.
>>45164425Autism
>>45168371She is healing from the horrible sexual experience she had with her colleagues. She can trust them now>Miko would be pleased
>>45168349Not a vtuber but you can toss Depressed Nousagi in there too. Nothing good has come from there.
>>45168391it's 1:32 actually, i'm west coast na
>>45168449>mud huts and shacks You have never been to Manilla. Most parts of the city belong to rich Filipinos. The slums make up less than 2%. Also, if ID can find their vtubers in Jakarta, they can also find plenty in Manilla.
>>45168448>Feels like watching holofest 1You haven't watched it in 3 year. It's just a little jank, but not it's nowhere near Nornis.
>>45168371She have always been approachable, don't you see how often she show up in other Holos 3D live?
https://twitter.com/usadapekora/status/1636284211635294208Is Pekora horny?
Awe we bots here?
>>45168513She lust for autistic Indo puss
EN3 or JP7 during holofes?
>>45168513she has seen Moona in person
>>45167585What sankisei concert? They NEVER had one!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4EXSwuwto3ohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4EXSwuwto3ohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4EXSwuwto3oKiara wtf
>>45168554What's so atttractive about Moona anyway? She looks like the typical seanigger
>>45168495oh look! sakura miko from hololive is searching for holoph talent!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--X9qC46TFc
>>45168552EN3, JP7 doesn't really need help hyping their debut
>>45168554That means Pekora has seen Moona's husband
>>45168423it's what happen when you're stuck in twitchland
>>45168552NEW HOLOSTARS JP AND EN IT IS
How do you call this sort of behavior, numbertachis?>When the nationalist racist homophobic and transphobic rabbit has a better English than some Indog who has used that language for years already
>>45168569Pekora like pampering her (favorite) kouhais, this ain't a surpriseIt's really easy to tell who is her favorite
>>45168270Because your breath stinks from eating all that pagpag
>>45168578That's kinda sad. She would be getting 10k+ in this time slot
>>45168394is 2k good or bad with her standard
Lunas papa just dropped a new remixhttps://youtu.be/OutTXyVCoos
>>45168599It’s called DeepL
>>45168423Mainly playing FPS= catering to the FPS tards= wanting celeb cocks.
>>45168568She unfortunately went to the poorer parts of Manilla and only stayed for a short while
>>45168636Luna's papa is legit one of the best Holoparent.
>>45168622We don't eat pagpag. That is food for the poor only, indog.
>>45168636Pekora retweeted almost immediately.https://twitter.com/kanzakihiro/status/1636284617660723200
>>45168599>has a better English>a betterYou ESL fags always make me laugh.
>>45168093>Why did the head of the record company that raised the world's best K-pop group, BTS , feel the crisis?Chairman Bang said, “The slowdown in K-pop growth indicators is clear”.>“Numbers don’t lie” K-pop’s negative growth in Southeast Asia, such as K-pop’s share in Spotify in Indonesia, which decreased by 28 % compared to last year, K-pop’s number of entries on the Billboard Hot 100 chart, which decreased by 53 % compared to 2021 , decline from 2020 It was cited based on the growth rate of exports of K-pop albums. Numbers don’t lie…
>>45168562Quaso
>>45168636Why didnt he remix his daughter song instead? It fits more for a remix song too https://youtu.be/OUGUmpPXxcc
>>45168712https://twitter.com/usadapekora/status/1636290543373385729?s=20Qrt tooI have never seen her this active on Twitter, something good is happening behind the scene
>>45168630Not that bad, I think
>>45168725https://youtu.be/doRw9Not4nwHis upload before this was a Luna remix
>>45168562>>45168723I will never understand the foreigners' love for croissants. Pain perdu and pains au Chocolat are much tastier than that trash meme.
Kanzaki Hiro has the worst case of same-face syndrome. Literally every Holo character he draws looks like Luna wearing a wig of that member
>>45165076What was 46?
G-guys? There’s a niji 3D on again and no one’s posting……
>>45168762HoloEN Connect ft. Usada Pekora vs Sakura Miko as the main event is coming anon
>>45168798It's a homo concert. We only like girls here
>>45168725Luna literally uses his music as her ending song.
morning ladswhat's the news for today?any tldr for anything?
>>45168798who is it?
huh, a rare early salome stream
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzZKn8uwIto
>>45168808Pekora never retweeted that mika pikazo art…….
>>45168782Luna face is the best face
https://twitter.com/to_wt_sasasa_to/status/1636240590332641280?s=20Status report, the drink sales is still going strong, in case you guys asked, there ARE gacha building in, you get random Holo stamp for each bottle you boughtSo don't be surprised that nips bought hundred of bottles
>>45168860ok it's not really better than nornis yesterday lmao
>fuck up this earlyWell
>>45168939You're limited to 2 drink per person
>>45168762she's trapped on the toilet, she has nothing to do but stare at her phone
>>45168977It looks the same. Why is it this cheap looking?
>>45168876G-GOLD
>>45168939>>45168982 (me)Nvm I thought you were talking about the holofes drinks until I clicked on the link kek
>>45168982Well then there is a loophole somewhere cause I saw nousagi and 35P buying like 20 bottles
Same setup with Nornis yesterday?Or is there anything different?
>>45168977>People paid money for this
>>45168982Only per store and per person. Bring some friends
>>45169004Yeah it's the same exact setup as Nornis
WAIT KANAE SOLOLIVE IS TODAY!!?
Ame just posted to members, I won't leak here but it's extremely important to the future of EN.
>>45168781Depends on the day, a good buttery croissant that I can just buy is better than me making french toast at home, pain au chocolat is too much for breakfast
>>45169033It's literally the same. I guess he has more costumes
>>45169057don't tell me she said quaso
>>45169033Are you watching on 144p or something? There's no way it's this bad right?
>>45168876What's with the bland background? Is he supposed to be an edge lord singing unravel?
>>45169058Not today. Right now
>>45167205didn't we have a holo saying they're lacking 3D staff?even when the studio was free, they need 3D staff to record stuff.I'm guessing at least 50% of the staff are tech folks that handle VR, 3D and all that jazz.As well as creating stages, models, and 3D rigging.
>>45169086Anycolor didn't have a background budget
>>45168876God this music is shit.
>>45169086>bland backgroundWell for a 3D concert ideally you'll want a black background for the immersion
So, what caused anykara's stock sudden spike?
>>45168977How much are the tickets for this? Since Nornis was already about 75 USD
>>45169113kiwawa for the 3d motion and marine overall(7 months ago)
>>45168977Looks cheap as fuck. A free 3DLive from a holo is miles better than this
>>45168781Americans generally don't eat croissants as a dessert, or fill them with anything. We just use them like somewhat better dinner rolls, or else put breakfast sandwiches on them.
>>45169149revenue and profit report came out yesterday
>>45168781It's just funny to say
>>451691509900 Yen same as Nornis
>>45169149investors liked anykara's 3D stuffs so they bought
>>45169083Maybe it's Youtube compression, or maybe it's the addon I use to get the screenshot, but it's always like this since Fantasia
>>45168481Wtf that's too late, or you woke up early.
>>45169167I put butter on them or dip them in gravy or mash potatoes or something. I've never seen anyone use it as a dessert. is that a euro thing?
https://twitter.com/hololivetv/status/1636276112627048456https://twitter.com/hololivetv/status/1636276112627048456https://twitter.com/hololivetv/status/1636276112627048456Does your oshi made it in?
>>45169149
>>45168898Good.
Are we being raided by flipniggers again?
>>45169187nijinijgs really ate everything even with this low shit quality
huh, would Holo Connect really be an EN only concert?they might invite 1 or 3 JP guests right?
>>45168394>Bronze 4
>>45168793Zaion obviously, and all the assorted shit that came out of it
>>45169214https://open.spotify.com/playlist/3kCdxDDXDxZttY0qiQAgL0
>>45169214Shallys is in it, so yeah I am good
He looks funny
>>45169214Where are da boiz?
>>45169246well they can try to get suisei for a fail safe
>>45168569>What's so attractive about A anyway? She looks like the typical XYou can say that to pretty much anyone, anon
>>45169246if they have duets maybe but i'm more inclined to there will be none
Why do people keep making the same past tense mistake?It's "Did they make it in?", not "Did they made it in?" or "Do they made it in?"
>>45169246Being EN only will allow them to do more songs and group combinations. I wouldn't object to JP or ID guests but I could also see there not being any.
For someone lipsinging, Kanae's shit has 0 choreo. Nornis live is better than this trash.
>>45169314Do they made in it?
>>45169310Maybe for Umisea
>>45169319anykara using the cheapest stuff to sell it at high price
Free part is over
>>45169214All active girls except Zeta and Kaela are in
>>45169187About 150 USD just for these 2 concerts?! I'd rather pay a whore and I'll have a better time at it
>>45168718This guys a retard numbers lie all the time
>>45167693The stock is volatile af. What the fuck
>>45169369now it will be high quality right?
>>45169383They don't have any orisong.
>>45169246It would be real shitty if they use an EN event to boost JP like that
>>45169214More like the "best" song per chuuba is included.
>>45169383*all girls with original songZeta and Kaela don't have one yet
>>45169296Not really. IRyS for example is gorgeous.
>>45169400anya is there?
>>45169385You'd better pay for Holofes lol. It's cheaper, with more performances, and better quality (hopefully).
>>45167693>Release financial report>Graph go up>Stock increaseToo easy, dunno why we even take this shit seriously. Stuffs like these moving based on the company events and profits
Guy doesn't even have a fucking MC part for the free part intermission. Fucking trash live. Even if Nornis live was amateurish at least they tried to deliver something for their fans, unlike this manwhore.
Are you ready for some hags lesbian scissoring on stream, anontachi? Akirose will surely shill her 3D live as wellhttps://twitter.com/AZKi_VDiVA/status/1636296191259582465
>>45169421for >>45169402
>>45164161What? They arent
>>45169319huh I thought he sang live since the there's a lot of mistake on the first song.
>>45163134That /vt/ will bend over backwards to put out free publicity with a little bit of reverse psychology.
Suisei's second sololive was 8800 Yen for comparison
>>45169421Nope. Guess she isnt good enough
>>45169461Tuned in on the last song and it looked like he was lipsinging with how the audio quality not matching his whole body movements.
>>45169437Where is the high sea this time around?
>>45169441Azuki who was in the shitter before now is saving Aki...
>>45169428I already have my ticket anon, bought it after their announcement for all three of their concerts, and that was just 147 USD
>>45167845>>45168202>>45168270Another timeloop i seeSamefagg. I thought you guys get banned already
>>45169369Free part peaked at 31k so below Mori, either of Suisei’s or Aqua’s but pretty sure it’s above Okayu and Watame
>>45169482No idea, probably try /2434/?
>>45169469yeah let's not compare it to Suisei 2nd sololive the gap is too much.
>>45169452https://open.spotify.com/playlist/3kCdxDDXDxZttY0qiQAgL0?si=hF4HOyTKRQCzok5RFlX04wAnya has no song yet, so maybe no Anya.
>>45169214> Prism Melody, PekoRandomBrain and Shallys are here I'm satisfied.
>>45169407Hafu's are disqualified
>>45169503>with danmakuWell beggars can't be choosers.
>>45169480It might just be the tech being shit and delayed
>>45169407And Kiara
Thinking about it, it seems that Our Bright Parade is the first "hololive IDOL PROJECT" song with nonJP members.
>>45169214>>45169402>Watame song is Watame's LullabyMan, why do they choose that over My Song or Aimai Chocolate?