/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

ENshart

This one, I like her ass

>>45085020
The NijiEN model doesn't seem to be working out for NijiEN either, kek.

>>45085117
Recent clip numbers
>>45039222
>>45039247
>>45039265
>>45039289
>>45039308

>>45084882
Yeah considering they still shill the voicepacks more than merch even custom ones in jp it kinda points to them still getting a shitty cut in terms of custom merch but probably not ass bad as regular merch but the cut is probably a lot higher than the 50 cut the company gets for voicepacks

GRIM

* YESTERDAY'S FINAL TALLY *
>32,152: Pekora (Hololive)
>29,966: Miko (Hololive)
>29,389: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>26,445: Subaru (Hololive)
>22,266: Koyori (Hololive)
>21,783: Chloe (Hololive)
>20,132: Kronii (Hololive)
>17,618: Iroha (Hololive)
>17,252: Kanata (Hololive)
>15,564: Lamy (Hololive)
>15,097: Koyori (Hololive)
>15,074: Lauren (Nijisanji)
>14,355: IRyS (Hololive)
>12,775: Patra (774 inc)
>12,495: Salome (Nijisanji)
>12,026: Met (VSPO)
>11,570: Koyori (Hololive)
>11,055: Korone (Hololive)
>10,267: Fuwa (Nijisanji)
>10,240: Luca (Nijisanji)
>10,091: Nene (Hololive)
>10,037: Alice (Nijisanji)

>>45084798
>Using Pomu herself, that valentines merch with her pin and that had Finana ring, Rosemi ring and Enna stuff is good, then there's the current merch from the boys in JP with a plush bear
Wait so nijien gets custom merch and its still lower than voicepacks? damn it might not matter if its custom or not they probably do get screwed over by merch

>>45085011
Mito supporting and propping up a black company that supports doxing and and harassing ex-talents, just for as a start, makes her absolutely terrible and I'm tired of pretending otherwise. Don't give a shit if she's "friends" with "good" holos and "goes back years" with them, cunt's a cunt that makes her income from being the figurehead to an awful company that has repeatedly fucked with Hololive. Only good niji is a dead one.

>>45085311
>MARCH 2023 GOLDS
1) Nerumero (Indie) - 32,543 - Genshin gacha
2) Mio (Hololive) - 42,700 - Mahjong tournament
3) Gura (Hololive) - 67,405 - 3D showcase
4) Toya (Nijisanji) - 68,467 - Oekaki no Mori tournament
5) Miko (Hololive) - 138,977 - 3D birthday live
6) Marine (Hololive) - 39,525 - Minecraft w/Kanata
7) Miko (Hololive) - 42,738 - Soulcalibur 6
8) Pekora (Hololive) - 52,296 - Clubhouse 51 totsu
9) Subaru (Hololive) - 33,648 - Minecraft
10) Suisei (Hololive) - 45,471 - Micomet mocopi Switch Sports
11) Lamy (Hololive) - 44,322 - Clubhouse 51 w/Kanata, Chloe & Marine
12) Shion (Hololive) - 96,477 - 3D birthday live
13) Hal (Neo Porte) - 139,050 - VSaikyo 5 teams announcement
14) Pekora (Hololive) - 32,152 - Minecraft

>PER COMPANY
11x: Hololive
1x: Indie, Neo Porte, Nijisanji

>PER STREAMER
2x: Miko, Pekora
1x: Gura, Hal, Lamy, Marine, Mio, Nerumero, Shion, Subaru, Suisei, Toya

>2023 GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
55x: Hololive
14x: Nijisanji
2x: Indie
1x: Neo Porte, VSPO

>PER STREAMER
22x: Pekora
6x: Marine
4x: Toya
3x: Miko, Mio, Subaru
2x: Kuzuha, Lamy, Nerumero, Nijisanji, Okayu, Suisei, Towa
1x: Choco, Gaku, Gura, Hal, Himawari, Hinano, Hololive, Ina, Kiara, Koyori, Mito, Mori, Nozomi, Polka, Roco, Shion, Watame, Yashiro

>>45085117
You guys are complete fucking autist but whoever usually bakes your threads has real based taste in feet pics.

>>45084869
>marine and mito
talking about obscure otaku culture, nnd memes and doujin tropes
>nina and random collab partner
talking about the need to destroy white people and christianity
those aren't the same

>>45085348
>Mito supporting and propping up a black company that supports doxing
you know whats funny or ironic i dont think they ever did anything to the mito poster and it would not surprise me if one of the old retarded rrats about the stalker was true

>>45085117
baker this is not cunny what the fuck

>>45085240
Pretty much.
Streamlabs if im not mistaken is over 50 % cut since anykara cut is like 30% while 5% of the cut is streamlabs. Then voice packs which we know from Tomoe its 50/50, then superchat that is known for years also from tomoe, 30/30/30 with 10% from taxes, 5% paid by anycolor, 5% paid by liver. Then merch, which we dont know the cuts to this day but the traditional merch cut is less than 30% most likely, with the custom merch funded by the member, higher than that.
>>45076773
>>45076997
Its not, because thats not the only thing they are making money. The salary of a Nijisanji memeber is the sum of sponsorship, voice packs, merch, streamlabs, superchat, membership, concert (JP) and everything they sell. Thats how almost all NijiEN are full time streamers and abandoned their other job, because they make more than enough to work just as streamer

>>45085346
There are custom merch by the organs themselves and custom merch by Anykara. The valentine merch is the later.

*YESTERDAY’S FINAL EN TALLY*

>3/14 DAILY TALLY
20,086: Kronii (Hololive)
14,355: IRyS (Hololive)
10,041: Luca (Nijisanji)
9,920: Fauna (Hololive)
6,623: Mori (Hololive)
5,587: Mysta (Nijisanji)
5,469: Ike (Nijisanji)


>EN GOLDS FOR MARCH 2023
1) Mori (Hololive) - 18,696 - Monopoly (w/ Amelia, Magni, Vesper)
2) Vox (Nijisanji) - 8,614 - Return Stream
3) Gura (Hololive) - 67,405 - 3D Showcase
4) Amelia (Hololive) - 39,353 - 3D Showcase
5) Hololive English (Hololive) - 57,045 - Myth 3D Collab
6) Fauna (Hololive) - 6,793 - Penumbra
7) Kiara (Hololive) - 24,018 - Myth Offcollab
8) Shu (Nijisanji) - 10,195 - Return Stream
9) Ina (Hololive) - 14,532 - Minecraft
10) Vox (Nijisanji) - 10,791 - Charity Stream
11) Pomu (Nijisanji) - 19,891 - Outfit Reveal
12) Kiara (Hololive) - 9,341 - Karaoke (w/ Towa)
13) IRyS (Hololive) - 8,742 - Minecraft
14) Kronii (Hololive) - 20,086 - Birthday Stream

>PER COMPANY
10x: Hololive
4x: Nijisanji

>PER STREAMER
2x: Vox, Kiara
1x: Mori, Gura, Amelia, Hololive English, Fauna, Shu, Ina, Pomu, IRyS, Kronii

>POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)
18p: Fauna
16p: Vox
13p: Kiara
11p: IRyS
9p: Mysta
8p: Ina
7p: Shu
6p: Pomu
5p: Mori, Gura, Amelia, Hololive English, Kronii
3p: Uki, Baelz
1p: Pippa, Elira, Rosemi, Mumei, Luca

>Look at NijiEN OP
>They are coping Pomu was lying about Merch cut
>while Kuzuha already spilled the beans two years ago
We know NijiEN full of liars but there's no reason for Pomu to lie about voice pack has better cut than merch

>>45085117
Coomer general

>>45085169
/hlgg/ farmin (you)s

NotZaion is charging up the Full Counter, all the attack she received since the notice will fuel the big Discord log Nuke

>>45085471
>2023 EN GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
49x: Hololive
22x: Nijisanji
2x: Holostars

>PER STREAMER
8x: Mori
7x: Amelia
5x: Mumei, Baelz, Ina, IRyS
4x: Fauna, Vox
3x: Mysta, Gura, Pomu, Kiara, Kronii
2x: Selen
1x: Ike, Flayon, Alban, Elira, Luxiem, Finana, Millie, Luca, Regis, Enna, Rosemi, Hololive English, Shu

>2023 POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)
59p: Fauna
54p: Ina
50p: Mumei
49p: IRyS
48p: Mori, Amelia
43p: Baelz
42p: Vox
33p: Mysta
31p: Kiara
22p: Kronii
17p: Luca
16p: Pomu
15p: Gura
13p: Selen
11p: Uki
9p: Millie, Enna, Ike
8p: Finana
7p: Regis, Shu
6p: Elira, Rosemi
5p: Flayon, Alban, Luxiem, Hololive English
4p: Vesper
3p: Sonny, Hakka, Magni
1p: Meloco, Shinri, Gavis, Axel, Maria, Pippa

>>45085467
and they still shill the voicepacks more than the custom merch

>>45085346
They get custom merch but thats made by the own company. By custom merch I mean the ones funded by the own liver, so like Utako original goods, or Amamiya original goods. I guess I should have said talent funded merch instead of custom, because Nijisanji does have custom merch out there including in EN

Ryuguards, not like this...

>>45082302
Watame's plushie came after her MVs and concert.

>>45085311
How did Miko get less than 30k for a WWE stream? Is a lesser variant if CCVID in the loose for the JP side?

>>45085459
We have more than one baker, anon. That's just how it goes.

>jamie lee curtis' troon son is a 2view chuuba
what a fucking world we live in

>>45085621
Nah there was an MV after that which was funded by the merch unless im thinking of another talent

>>45085587
no they barely shill anything and i say that as nijijp and en fan. Most of them are terrible to shill anything, they just quote retweet the main account and call it a day. Finana is the only one who tries something, putting her merch and voice packs in the beginning of ther streams and the end to remind others that those exists. Other than that? most of them in EN do a bad job to shill anything

>>45085670

>>45085603
Selen must feel pretty fucking stupid about taking an unnecessary jab at Pippa now that Pippa mogs all of Obsydia

>>45085624
she also got under 30K for her gta stream
something is up

>>45085169
/hlgg/ is alright sometime

>>45085496
why does nji fan defend corps instead of liver?

>>45085695
What? Who the fuck is that one?

>>45085189
It worked until Vox made a "your momma" joke.

>>45085752
>no they barely shill anything
I mean im not surprised considering how much cut nijisanji takes away from them

>>45085587
The take home cut is probably
Streamlabs : 50% - 70%
Voice pack : 50%
SC : 35%
Merch : lmao
Also a lot of them are terrible at shilling their stuff. But then again it's not a Niji exclusive thing. Someone like Suisei is a rarity.

>>45085515
>>45085813
Fuck off globaltrannies

>>45085602
And I still dont see them shill that as much compared to the voicepacks
Probably due to the shitty cut the company takes compared to voicepacks

>Superchat is easier than going through streamlabs? Yeah that makes sense.
>If you're ever curious about how if you wanna support people, like, the livers what's the easiest or the bestest I guess? What's the biggest bang for your buck? It would be, Streamlabs and voice packs, then superchats, then merch. In that order.
>Merch last? Mhmm. What about members? I'm not sure what the cut for youtube- I've seen like differentiating things about the cut that youtube takes for members stuff, so I'm not really sure.
>But yeah, so if you're ever curious, not just for me but for everyone in Nijisanji, streamlabs and voice packs are the best way to support your favorite liver. Mhmm. So even if you're like, "I never superchat or do anything like that" and you're like "I'm just gonna buy a bunch of voicepacks-" wait that's weird, "I'll buy a voice pack instead" that's ok you know. Don't feel bad. And if you're watching here, you're supporting too. Don't feel like you HAVE to donate or- or buy anything, or anything like that.
https://youtu.be/znNv8LriV60?t=5065

Reposting to add timestamp. Never posting the is again so if you see it, it's a repost from someone else.

Slow thread.. Looks like our shitposter going back to hlgg and NijiEN

>>45085728
Probably My Song. That MV is full length and fully animated so it costs a lot.

>>45085765
>Selen must feel pretty fucking stupid about taking an unnecessary jab at Pippa
That didn't really happen even if people pretend it did whenever somebody posts that clip.
Pippa wasn't even in that game - no Phase talent was.

>open catalog
10 gura threads

>>45085728
She's had some MVs since she made the plushie, but her main focus when making it wasn't to make a lot off it she just wanted to make something she thought was special. She probably made a lot more money off her birthday and anniversary goods.

>>45085824
https://twitter.com/Killerkittens66/status/1634657661605285889 (warning don't open if eating)
currently with 22 viewers https://www.twitch.tv/charitygoblinruby

>>45085728
That was probably partially subsidized by Cover since they were playing the MV on TV.

>>45085827
nah the girls were always shitters
vox used the nijicn and nijisea model which worked
and im saying this unironically since i remember him suddenly popping in a lot of sea chuuba streams (i remember him suddenly collabing with the kometa girls in mariokart along with some fliptubers unannounced)

>>45086034
All. Fucking. Day. They really were counting on Vesper calling Kronii and now they have nothing.

>>45086034
You should see the spambot running in the split

>>45086055

>>45086083
Dont think she sold that song to cover or did she?

>>45085996
My Song was released before the plushie Jan last year vs March.

Now the most important question, how the fuck Cover make money if their liver keep hogging majority of the profits?

>>45086055
Oh. This makes me genuinely sad.

Streamlabs > Voicepack > SC > merch
People like to focus on merch, but they ignore how generous the cut from Streamlabs and Voicepack are. They are both higher than SC which Youtube take 30% cut from
Nijisanji mainly recoup their operational cost from their merch sales while Donation and Voicepack are for their livers unlike Cover who take high % cut from all income sources forcing their talents to gamble with custom merch where they have to provide the design themselves, pay the hefty upfront cost of its production and finally shoulder the high risk associated with its sales

>>45085404
> *chu<3*

>>45086055
OH GOD, WHY HE LOOKS LIKE A FATTER CHRIS-CHAN
?!

Ok hear me out

>Hololive SEA
There like 5 countries that speak the same language (sing, malay, id, brune and borneo). Surely this is way better than just holo id?

>>45086083
>>45086228
Nah. My song is hers and was really expensive. She wants to do another one like it this year if she can though.

>>45086272
cover just makes enough since the goal of hololive was always being a stepping stone for the talents

>>45086191
>isreal
KRONII WHY

>>45086272
>liver
They just make that much in merch. Plus all the sponsorships

>>45086305
It stops being a risk after the first one lol. At some point your fans (or even people not really a fan of you but of holo in general) will just eat whatever fucking slop you throw at them.

>>45086006
>Nijifags gloat about Selen taking a shot at Pippa for months
>Pippa starts mogging NijiEN
>"Uhhhh Selen never did that ackchually"
I see how it is

>>45086305
>Nijisanji mainly recoup their operational cost from their merch sales
We all know Nijisanji takes the lions share of the profits, you don't have to write a paragraph to convince us.

>>45086381
Tell them to learn English and join EN.

>>45086272
Lamy annual tax was around $1M, yes they just make that much money

>>45086381
I can't even tell if this is a bait or a dumbfuck who failed his geographic reps.

>>45085117
Who is this? I wanna sniff and like her bum and feet

I just realized some real bullshit
YAGOO said that he won't debut new gens of girls soon because he wants the previous ones to establish themselves first
Meanwhile he debuted 4 gens of holostarsJP and 2 gens of holostarsEN WITHOUT them establishing themselves at all. And cover announced auditions for new ones already too!
Really makes you think who is gaslighting him into these ideas. Really makes the brain go hmmmmmMMMMMMmmmmmmmm

>>45086305
>Gamble
It stopped being a gamble after 2020.

Interesting they numberfagging VODs views on twitch lol.
https://twitter.com/Th3ValeOfficial/status/1635697604045438988
This guy probably got no clue since I don't think Oscars one is like Vods views it is probably more like CCV/Unique viewers.

>>45086191
her mouth looks like a.... that

>>45086305
I mean its not surprsing since both fits well with each others Company style.
Nijisanji is more the top dogs get all the money and support while Hololive has everyone gets a piece of the pie
Its why we always here Holos buying new stuff like roboco getting a house, risu getting her whole family out a shithole or Mori and Lamy complaining about huge taxes while Nijis always talks about how they need to encourage people how to donate to their streams more since they need it to live

>>45086272
Sponsorships, corpo collabs, group merch, funded concerts, taking money from the talents etc.

>>45086272
Seen the sponsorships they get?

>>45086305
>gamble
Is it really a gamble when most of the merchs are made to order?

>>45086381
>malay, id, brune and borneo
the west try it before and fail

>>45086425
new 'toss

A-chan, no!

>>45086305
>gamble
Personalised merchandise has never, EVER been a fucking "gamble" for an eceleb with a few thousand or more fans. Holy fuck how retarded can you be? 3views and sub-100k per vid LPers funded fucking houses off shirts, plushies and mugs.

grim cripple gold

>>45085471
LMAO! Mori mogged mysterio, ike and milord white day celebration stream??? Hahahaha!

>>45085950
>>Merch last? Mhmm. What about members? I'm not sure what the cut for youtube- I've seen like differentiating things about the cut that youtube takes for members stuff, so I'm not really sure
This can only mean she has a dogshit amount of members if she has no idea lol

Holy based Ojisan

>>45086305
merch should never be a gamble when your one of the leading companies in the industry anon
hell even mid level streamers like ace family has a ton of money from merch sales alone
If anycolor or the livers think that merch is a gamble for them then that speaks volumes on the power of their brand recognition

>>45086960
You can count the emotes to estimate members. It probably means they get the same cut as SC for their members.

>>45086830
Would end as a failure as Gran Colombia and Gran Colombia's countries at least have the same language unlike Maphilindo

>>45086272
There is a reason Cover almost makes as much as Anycolor but has less than half the profits lmao

>>45086995
>Literally bought a camera to take a photo of aki

Bae's White Day last year 6,126. This year 6,132.

>>45087021
Anycolor pumps out merch like crazy (because they get most of the money).

>>45086995
>Majority of the Rosetais are even older than Aki

https://twitter.com/tanigox/status/1635766636446912513
https://twitter.com/tanigox/status/1635766636446912513
https://twitter.com/tanigox/status/1635766636446912513

>YAGOO couldn't find anyone fit for EN3, so he will create EN3 out of thin-air by himself

>>45086725
>Comparing Vod views to live viewers (CCV)
Yikes lmao

>>45086919
She beat watson? Rat bros!

>>45086419
>the talents uses hololive to win money and probably fame
>cover uses the talents to shill their tech

>>45087107
HOLY INCLINE

>>45087107
INCLINE

>>45086878
At least she didn't pick the train one.

>>45086419
>hololive was always being a stepping stone for the talents
That failed. No one leaves Hololive to a better career. Most don't leave, they just sit down.

oh
sora organized that cover and will have a collab before hand.
grim numebrs ahead.
Also bae remakring the hololive PRODUCTION part.

>>45087081
Oh I never saw it that way
Jesus Niji is worse than I thought

>>45087119
Is this the best way to get GPT-4?

>>45087107
GO BAE GO

>>45087119
Man, everyone forget that Yagoo is a tech guy rather than an entertainment guy...

>>45085835
No its because they are bad to do that. VP they get a large cut and they do a shit job promoting it on stream. I forgot to mention but selen does a good job. In JP most if not all livers do a good job promoting it on the stream, putting everything i nthe beginning or end
>>45085901
This is the most realistic cut. Merch considering pomu puts it below SC, its probably between 20-25%

>>45086272
they are contractors
the talent makes money themsleves and maintain themselves most of the time.

>>45087229
one of the rare cases of failing upwards

>>45086919
Nah here's your real cripple for today
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kKnbaGtYq98
There's no way he can't break 6k on Minecraft.

>>45087253
Idk, maybe someone in /g/ can answer that I think
Or ask the folk in the AI threads /here/
Speaking of which, I tried that thread once, but horseanon kinda weirded me out

>>45087234
>sora
>iofi
>bae
>rio
>axel
All of them debuffs
GRIMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

>>45087253
You can subscribe to ChatGPT plus. You can only subscribe to that Poe app if you use Apple products. What a weird decision.

>>45087311
>No its because they are bad to do that
Its because they have no passion to shill something that the company takes majority of the profits of.

I miss fauna

Uhm... What the fuck?

>>45087356
what were his last MC numebrs

>>45087356
>video game stream
>numbers
>luxiem

Kiara found stuff
https://twitter.com/takanashikiara/status/1635830146585206784

>>45087311
nah most likely 20-0% depending on the merch or how big the liver is and how well he re-negotiated his or her contract

>>45087469
What the fuck what

>>45086055

>>45087469
bae was 6k
selene talking about vsaikyo
the others are just shitters

Also is selen on vsaikyo only becasue axel?

>>45086381

>>45087081
>>45087252
No, its because they make more money than them. If it was like you are implying, the difference would be much much larger than just 2 billion yen
they still have to give merch cut, even if its a smaller cut than vp, and the point everyone seems to ignore, they barely need to spend money for VP and they release A TON of those so you can be sure this is also on profit and revenue for merch (both physical and digital are classified under their commerce).

Only 3 days before HoloFes 4, how do you feel anons?

>>45086995
Based, Hologirls are for us Oji sans

>>45087309
And now you know why his decision regarding entertainment has been disastrous, especially the introduction of Star and its attempts of integration with Hololive

I jests, of course, but sometime you can't help but think "What the hell was on his mind when he did that?" (Like the idea of Hololive itself, for starter)

>>45087469
wait why is elira in the 3view gang playing something other than a jrpg

>>45087486
true, but HoloEN is not putting up a fight either today

>>45087639
superchat reading

>>45087437
Anon, are you retarded? I just talked about them doing a shit job shilling voice packs and in those they get 50%
And if it was like you said, I wouldn't see ID, KR and JP all doing it well while EN does a shit job with it in general to shill them on stream

>>45087483
The last time he played Minecraft he got 11k but that was a full Luxiem collab with 3 POVs
Before that, he got 6082 in October
I'm going to say 7k for this one

>>45087414
>You can only subscribe to that Poe app if you use Apple products
>What a weird decision
Wasn't the Holo app originally for Apple since their tracking is better?

>>45087510
>Hololive now has products on the shelves at Don Quixote
Cool

Error ended quite a while ago so that surplus stock must have been sitting there for a while.

>>45087615
>the difference would be much much larger than just 2 billion yen
The difference can be just the same anon and it could still be true

>>45087486
Hey, Mysta got....
8k back in December
https://vrabi.net/video/jh06tIKgp3c

>search irys on youtube
>get clips of Kronii, Kaela, Aqua, Peko, Kiara, and Fauna instead
I literally only watch IRyS, why the fuck.

>>45087622
Yes

>>45087619
Bad. I feel like the tech won't be better and it will just be a rerun with different songs. A new costume isn't that cool.

>>45087719
Anon they do a shit job at shilling the VP but its a lot better than how they shill their merch

>>45087736
Yes, but that Poe app is just a UI to call GPT APIs. I see no reason why they need to limit it to Apple products

>>45087701
>true, but HoloEN is not putting up a fight either today
They wasted it all yesterday to make a funnel for Kronii.

>>45087784
Base Ojisan

>>45087775
Youtube wants you to be a based DD chad

>>45087636
>(Like the idea of Hololive itself, for starter)
From Sora? Wait, that's the idea of Vtuber
Maybe he got an idea after seeing Nijisanji's debut?

>Bae just read this SC out loud
Bae...

>>45087749
I doubt because they still have to give the overall cut of all the revenue the member has made in a month, that's how they make money with all the cuts

>>45087737
Yea, not sure how long it's been there or what but there's a few shelves.

>>45087701
I mean its honestly boring when HoloEN gets serious

>>45087118
looks like dancers get most of the old people than the others

>>45087619
It's going to be a huge flop. I think the lack of ticket sales will be a reality check for Cover. Don't be surprised if Fes 5 gets downsized after a disappointing performance this week

>>45087936
>lack of ticket sales
?

>>45087737
>Hololive now has products on the shelves at Don Quixote
It would be pretty weird for them not to when they've had multiple big collaborations with Don Quijote with lots of exclusive merch, members singing the theme song, etc.

>>45087510
>donki
MAKE ANOTHER ROUND OF MOCHIDORU AAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>45087909
and we dont know how much that overall cut is all we know they get screwed over on that at as well
only thing we do know is that they get screwed over on merch which was what people were saying in this thread while nijien fans calling it rrat which isnt the case anymore
kinda funny how much niji rrat has been debunked in the past few weeks

>>45087936
Anon, no no no!
You're doin' it wrong, it's
>Cover sold so many tickets that they're gonna go BANKRUPT.

>>45087984
It was conveyed to me in a dream by beings of another dimension.

>>45087619
I'm so excited I cut off all forms of communication with me to the outside world and am hiding out on my ranch with my internet, food, and a boatload of beer to get me through the next week.

>>45086055
i just checked jamie lee curtis' twitter
fuck this is too funny

>>45087817
anon, they do a good job shilling both, Ive seen it for years with the members putting the banner for voice packs and merchandise in the beginning and end. In EN they dont do it except Selen and Finana, while others just really go to twitter and call it a day, and others speak about their merch on stream, but the majority just does a poor job to talk about their vp and in general, in what is the best way to support them. only pomu and nina have talked openly about that which is why so many of their fans donate via streamlabs for months

>>45087784
>Ojisan
Is that why HoloEN isn't as successful as HoloJP?
People under ojisan age are usually fickle

>>45088036
Almost everyone is Miko's room review had one.

>>45087119
He's trying to replace Gura with AI

Isn't Nornis live today? Why is there no hype, not even on twitter?

>>45087936
You retard a lack of ticket sales means Cover is making money
Them selling out is the way to bankrupt them according to other nijifags

>>45087510
>no Suisei
Why I'm not surprised

>>45088042
The overall cut we know, anon. The only cut we don't know in Nijisanji is about merch, other than that we have an idea for streamlabs, we know for sure YT, we know for sure voice packs, we know most of them

>>45088084
>the moment you remember Yagoo said Gura attracts a lot of ojisans

>>45087896
The stream desentesized her so hard, she wasn't even phased lmao

>>45088151
They don't even bother to put her products out since Suisei doesn't sell merch.

>>45088156
>The only cut we don't know in Nijisanji is about merch,
That one we do know the range though which is 40 to 0 percent

>>45087915
>everything on sale
This is basically bargain bin…. I thought you holokeks said Hololive stuff sells like hotcakes lmao

>>45088212
JP ojisans or EN ojisans?

>>45088151
No one cares about Suisei anymore after her fat yab. The illusion was broken. She's Plumpmachi Suisei now.

>>45087892
Well, I always like to think the idea Hololive and how it operates was from Sora, and YAGOO just in on it because of the tech aspect
Which, if you think about his actions, make perfect sense

>>45088243
Ban evading again, are we you retarded lucub.

>>45087576
yes, probably kneeling because eslen was ex-preadtor

>>45087510
papakatsu with jk miggers

>>45088156
>The overall cut we know, anon
really did they put it in their financial statement?

>>45086055
Brush your fucking hair and go on a fucking diet, Jesus Chirst, the chins. Your mom is Jami Lee Curtis, you have the means to actually put some money into how you look. Have you no shame...

Man, you guys aren't joking when you said that Nijiniggers discord force are deflecting by posting gura baits on catalog after dumpster diving

>>45088243
That's the color of the price tags at Don Qui. In most of japan they use yellow and red price tags. This isn't walmart.

>>45088292
he's probably regretting now due to selens points and the reality that she's a shitter

>>45087822
I still can't fucking believe they actuall spirit bombed Kronii.
Starting from Fauna's Minecraft raiding IRyS' karaoke, to Bae raiding the karaoke as well, all to push it onto Kronii. Who the fuck idea was it?

>>45086425
>>45086860
>>45086728
It's a PauseChamp you ojisans

>>45088386
Holokek it literally says -550 yen on it lmao

>>45088369
Yeah they shitpost out there while trying to control the narrative here on how anycolor doesnt cheat their livers in terms of profit share
Niji intern kun is really working overtime after he got btfo twice recently

>>45088121
Who is Nornis?

>>45088320
No, but we know cuts from certain types of monetization like the ones I mentioned, coming from Kaede in 2020, Tomoe in 2021 and now Pomu in 2023. Overall cut for everything we'll never know, most likely, about either of the agencies.

>>45088084
Yes
Also being an oji-san in EN means you screaming about how Bidan is destroying amurica and how everything is gay
That, or being too rich you already have your actual underage wives

>>45088406
Idk but Mori did a Kawaikute gomen cover too. Maybe they want a reset or something after Vesper didn’t show up

>>45086055
Wonder what Jamie Lee Curtis thinks of Pippa and Shondo

>>45088496
So we dont have any idea of the overall cut then?
Why did you say that we know of the overall cut
Get your stories and shilling straight intern kun or else this is going to be another niji family moment

>>45088084
Maybe, that Ojii-san still shills Pekora even though he as interacted with a lot of vtubers.

>>45088469
bruh im just saying the reality of the cuts, how is it a narrative by presenting the facts about what have been said

>>45088469
In a few hrs it'll degrade into doxposting then go downhill from there till they get banned again for the chizz pizz. I wonder how they justify having that shit to themselves.

>>45087936
Wake up anon your oshi will graduate soon!

>>45078245
>200 replies in two hours
And you guys said it wouldn't make a good catalogue thread

isnt Axel's upcoming thumbnail a bit yab?

>>45086305
>recoup
the classic nijiniggers playing stuffs down and pretend that their black company is barely going. Nijiniggers are truly leftists of vtuber fanbase.

>>45088578
By overall cut I meant everything but merch cut, as we know everything else

>>45088640
Extremely, suicide references is probably one of the biggest no no's for thumbnails.

>>45088640
Well, it's funny if nothing else. I think he'll probably have to change it though. Letting the sisters off themselves is probably a bridge too far.

>>45088496
>Overall cut we know
>really where
>We dont really know the overall cut but we know the certain cuts
Bootlicker anon stop being retarded and moving goalposts
Also how much is riku paying you for damage control PR? You sound like that guy who went full retard in defending niji with the no refund thing?

>>45088640
Eh not as yab about him joking about girls who commit self harm on one of his other DDLC vods

>>45088654
but wasn't that what you all said before they went public? that they were about to go bankrupt???

>>45088640
Back to /mans/ sister. Come back when theres actual drama

>>45087619
I'm excited. I like Hololive, and I like Hololive music, and I like it when the Hololive anime women sing Hololive music. I like HoloExpo, I like looking at the live streams where they walk around, I like watching the panels. I like the watchalongs, I like the merch, I like the 4chan threads that go extremely fast. I really like all of it.

>>45088687
I mean if we are basing it on past statements we could also put Kuzuhas statment as the overall merch cut

>>45085020
I mean holo model worked for them just fine back when it was only girls, they had arguably better chemistry than Myth and some people said they actually feel closer to holo JP because of it. Then the BOYZ debuted and were so unchinged niji EN exploded in popularity with ugly chinese ladies hungry for Western cock and they still pushed this "we are all one family" shit but it was clear dudes and their female fanbase is a priority now so nijigirls got some dead VPN subs when their real fanbase was leaving, it's telling that all females they've debuted post luxiem were flops. Family vibe works when both the members and fanbase are on the same page but for niji EN it limited them to sisters.

>>45088638
It's not a good catalogue thread, but people have low standards. I assume there's shitflinging between the NDF and the HDF. Same reason why mundane Kiara tweet threads can balloon to 300

>>45088640
kek

>>45088611
How can we speed up this loop, help them speedrun the rangeban?

>>45088776
Their organs surely are about to go bankrupt. Begging for scraps while the lowest teir holos like Kiara travel the world like some kind of celebrity and pay for the Nijiorgans to have a decent meal for once in passing.

>>45088151
You need to buy it from her official store.
https://jp.mercari.com/item/m76659949170

>>45088796
Holofes /here/ last year was alot of fun. Excited for whats to come

>>45088761
Im only explaining what i know about the subject nothing more than that
unfortunately its always hard to have dialogue in here without some sort of accusation or something of the like if you dont straight up shit on nijisanji

>>45088617
My oshi is Watame. She'll never graduate. Do your worst.

>>45088640
Hololive isn't nijisanji

>>45088822
>I mean holo model worked for them just fine back when it was only girls,
Not really since they could never surpass myth and barely even surpassed Council if it was just girls
But then again we are talking about niji quality so the bar for fine part must be really really low

>>45088876
But Elira paid the taxi for Kiara kek so i guess kiara is hurting for money too?

How many tonight?

>>45088290
Sora the Hololive foundation indeed

>>45085811
transplants?

>>45088386
it's pointless to say anything to nijiniggers. They will blame the reality itself if it doesn't fit with their agenda.

>>45088640
He's just doing his part like Vox in spreading suicide awareness.

>HOLOLIVE BOARD
>HOLOLIVE BOX
>HOLOLIVE GARDEN
>HOLOLIVE THREAD

>>45088965
Has she posted guests yet?

>>45088843
The only objective standard for how good a thread is is how many replies it gets in as short a time as possible and by that standard it's a pretty good thread

>>45088903
I mean we already know the cut for merch since Kuzuha already said it back then so I dont se why you said we dont have any idea for the cut for the merch

>>45088822
For Ehtyria specifically acting like a holo girl never worked for them. Their numbers were simply bad before luxiem debuted

Hoozuki IRyS

>>45088406
It was very sweet of them to support eachother like that

>>45088962
Didn't Elira pay for the dinner too since Kiara didn't have hard cash on her

>>45088999
Milord can bend reality with his mind, you dumbfucks. If reality is unfair to us, we can change reality

>>45088776
>/#/ is one guy
you're a pathetic human being.

>>45088890
Reminds me of Suisei's mochidoru which is way more expensive than the rest

>>45089053
Ethyria was retarded, they were hosting public watchalongs and superchat readings during the first week of their debut

>>45088965
4, I’m cooming 4 times to her tomorrow morning

>>45088063
Yeah, she just won an Oscar and there she is on twitter telling haters of her trans furry vtuber child to back the fuck off. Reality can be wild sometimes.

>>45087818
Maybe the elevens don't know and think you can get the best experience with Poe.

>>45089026
No, dumb bitch.

>>45089026
Does it matter when she has 11 guests? Just take a guess and there is a 30% chance you're right.

Wait did Ame’s karaoke lose to Bae? Holy recline.

>>45088999
>They will blame the reality itself if it doesn't fit with their agenda.
That's tranny behavior how's that related to Nijiniggers

>>45088962
>>45089114
KEK! So much for the holowhores out earning our NijiEn livers

>>45089167
I personally will not bother tuning into a 3D Live unless I know for a fact that my oshi is one of the guests and I know there are many others like me.

>>45087896
Need clip for it

>>45089187
you can put 2 and 2 together anon.

>>45088962
>>45089114
I mean considering the current state of nijien Id butter up Kiara too if it means a chance of getting my foot in hololive when nijien gets the nijiid treatment

>>45087229
Basically, AKB48.

>>45089053
Those bitches never acted like a holo girl

>>45087118
>>45087922
You can tell who fucks by the women they choose to chase.

>>45088640
Axel is basically an actual retard.

>>45089053
>Ehtyria
>acting like a holo girl
And other hilarious lies nijifags tell themselves.

>Nijien has shitty merch sales
Wonder if that was one of the factors that Riku considered when he cancelled the AR fest due to fear of not making a return of his investment

holo*27 ori songs are honestly good excited for the FES concert for holo*27.
Iroha and Ayame songs are cute but Suisei one is on a different league.
I also like Okayu and Chloe song though not sold on Kanata song.
Overall the album is good.

>>45087229
Hololive is a gold ticket retirement job.

>>45089413
>Nijien has shitty merch sales
No one has ever said that. Just that it doesn't matter to the talents.

>>45089417
No.

>>45089103
Too bad Kronii kinda squanders it, but I guess I'll give her a post jaw surgery pass

>>45089047
I know about what Kuzuha have said, but those arent hard numbers like the other things. unless its by specific merch, so its hard to count

>>45089417
As a chumbud I hate it (I hate bae)

>>45085471
>20,086: Kronii (Hololive)
>14,355: IRyS (Hololive)
>9,920: Fauna (Hololive)
>6,623: Mori (Hololive)
IMPRESSIVE display from hololive.

>>45089448
they dont need to say it

>>45089266
>>45089390
Hey don't put this on me. Those bitches are the ones that talked about how they tried to act cute like "girls in other corps"
They may have been shit at it but it was still an attempy

>>45089417
It is interesting how people opinion changed completely after the full album is released. Then again they made a bad choice with Peko/Miko and Gura/Bae songs.

>>45089491
so only "hard numbers" (aka the ones that dont put niji in a bad light) are acceptable like Kaede and Tomo?

>>45089468
Yeah man, like I’m fine with doomer people in moderation but kronii just fucking rag dolls everything. Having a GF like her is the fucking worst no matter how hot she is

>>45089516
Nah, I still think they're all trash except for Suisei's. One good song doesn't save the rest of it.

>>45089120
it wasnt just one guy, it was more than 10 at the very least
>>45089249
there's 0 chance of nijien getting merged when the branch makes more than enough to live. they did decline in revenue, but nothing oustrageous in the levels of id/kr. them reaching that level is almost impossible by the basic virtue of every member making more than all ID members except mika

>>45089516
Most Race is good, great bass line and energy.

I think more people are up on the whole thing because all the best songs weren't released for some off reason.

>>45088640
he is too irrelevant, no one cares enough about him to report it

>>45088640
He doesn't support any cause

>>45085950
>Merch last? Mhmm.
Profit driven Anycolor won't like this. I expect a stealth suspension as soon as tomorrow.

>>45089510
I mean they never specified what corpo and what kind of act they tried to imitate
For all we know they are trying their best to follow and indie corpo's ccv which they are actually achieving

>>45089510
>Those bitches are the ones that talked about how they tried to act cute like "girls in other corps"
Where? Timestamp for that phrase I mean. Because they never acted like anything other than the usual nijiwhores. Trying to say "but we tried to act like the popular girls and nobody cared about us" is just skill issue.

>>45089577
No, retard, im only saying those are the numbers we have, while on merchandise its nebulous because its not a fixed number. im not denying anything about merch cut being smaller
>>45089413
They have good merch sales, although like JP, Anycolor puts physical and digital (voice packs) sales under the same category of commerce

>>45087636
The idea for hololive originally was to try and get the technology Kizuna Ai used and shrink the costs down to the point where you average person can afford one. The idea was that all you needed was a few hundred dollars and covers product and you too could be the next kizuna Ai, something which Sony eventually realized with mocopi. In that business model Sora was basically just the poster girl/mascot, the same way hatsune miku was for vocaloid.

The issue was that they could never get the price down low enough for mass adoption for the target market, and then live2d happened and pulled the entire rug out from that business model. And Sora did good enough on her own that cover decided to go all in on the live entertainer market, and give years later here we are

>>45089633
>but nothing outrageous in the levels of id/kr. them reaching that level is almost impossible
For now anon and given their current track record im slowly doubting that impossibility especially after cancelling both an official even and a fan made one

>post le quarterly revenue meme graph from anykara

>>45089492
Honestly I like Sweet Apetite and rate it high it is cute but would prefer a Gura solo.
>>45089516
I love the PekoMiko and GuraBae songs I wouldn't expect a perfect song for them but the duo works and cute. Probably the two performance that would be great for 3D live.

>>45089709
>I mean they never specified what corpo and what kind of act they tried to imitate
Are we gonna pretend Hololive doesn't live rent free in their heads?

>>45089819
fan event they cancelled because the group was retarded to ask permission, when they should just go and do it, like everyone else did before

>>45089062
Is that surname supposed to reference Azuki?

>>45089756
im curious if they also put superchats under commerce since youtube labels them as products/goods rather than services which is why you get taxed

>>45089880
Fucker, at least use a vtuber-related image, not this genshit nonsense.

>>45089811
Live2d is truly a game changer

>>45089880
>meme because it goes against le narrative, but the time it goes down in future quarter, it wont be a meme anymore

>>45089915
>Probably the two performance that would be great for 3D live.
I will clip the PekoMiko part and rub in miComet trannies' faces. Hopefully they off themselves.

>>45089931
>when they should just go and do it, like everyone else did before
They were the same group and organizers for the Luxiem one a few months back anon so they probably asked permission for that one as well

>>45089417
Suisei's song is boring af what do you mean?

Graduation
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1iPWufex28

>>45089417
but ghost rule is not original

>>45089996
even it goes up or down i still will call it a meme since companies can literally manipulate that
>see twitter and their revenue graphs

nijinigger intern is working overtime tonight. I wonder what's happening behind the scenes because this retard sounds really desperate to sweep down everything under the rug hmmm.
Maybe mass graduation is coming soon?

Pekora wants you to buy the Noemari yuri photobook.

>>45089941
they put SC and YT related on livestreaming
Promotion: Sponsorships in general
Events: Concerts and the like
Commerce: Voice packs and merchandise
Livestreaming: Superchats, membership, ads
and here is nijien, i was retarded and posted the one with jp

>>45090082
Its a live anon

>>45089593
Kronii is a good reality check for those who wishes for 'hot doomer gf who is literally me' to realize how much pain in the ass they really are in real life. She really is her own worst enemy, still can't beat Laplus in terms of wasted potential though.

>>45089753
https://youtu.be/-Aenxi_rxDQ?t=9078

>>45090042
No, that one they didnt ask about
>>45090124
I come in here to discuss about number, if you can't handle something that isnt inherently negative about nijisanji thats on you. this thread is numbers, im discussing about numbers. you cant call everything you dont like to see like that

>>45090082
>2023年7月23日!花たん15周年記念LIVE開催決定!!
>詳細は後日!LIVEにLIVEグッズと鋭意制作中
楽しみに待っててね(/・ω・)/

>>45090149
>they put SC and YT related on livestreaming
where does it say that? im curious

I am the strongest holokek

>>45090082
>2023年7月23日!花たん15周年記念LIVE開催決定!!
Arigatou for this
And Risu is already retweeted Hanatan's tweet. Sasuga Hanatan fan

>>45090137

>>45089126
They're now $400 on ebay...

>>45090337
what's happening here?

>>45090101
That'd be illegal and fraudulent.

>>45090181
>>45090294
>>45090367
Read the thumbnail instead of using deepl you stupid fags.

https://youtu.be/Upxe34khUtU
According to Lamy, profit-wise voice packs > other merch, implied to have a better cut + no need to limit the amount one person can get + minimal production cost. Also it's confirmed that fans will easily buy multiple dozens of the same voice pack just to lavish money on their oshi.

Why did Ame’s karaoke do so poorly?

>>45090283
>They suddenly asked for this one and not for the other one
Thats a big stretch anon since it kinda feels more like precursor signs of Nijiid treatment rather than them suddenly for no reason at all asking permission
Hell if anything wouldnt the Luxiem cafe be banned since they didnt ask permission? and anycolor has history of cancelling things without permission ( like thatfan organized merch for id liver)

>>45090283
The number of lies your livers spew from their mouth is overwhelming

>>45090472
>Also it's confirmed that fans will easily buy multiple dozens of the same voice pack just to lavish money on their oshi.
I've rebought Fauna's birthday voice pack at least 23 seperate times before I stopped because I got laid off.

>>45090473
so?
live can mean anything
it's 生 so it could be prerecorded

>>45090473
Hanatan on JP7

>>45090440
A raid from a midget. Turn on all lines.

>>45090473
>read the thumbnail
Yes I know it says 卒業Live, it also says in the description she has a fucking 15th anniversary live coming up in July.

>>45090283
>discuss about numbers
>spews some bullshit that is full of speculations and full of benefit of a doubt
really makes you think

>>45090472
For something that makes them decent money they sure hate voice packs. Holos do them quite rarely.

>>45090473
Can confirm, the thumbnail said "Sotsugyō" (卒業), a Japanese word meaning "graduation" live

>>45090453
>That'd be illegal and fraudulent.
Not really considering there are stuff that supposed to be illegal and yet they are considered grey area shit due to loopholes

>>45090440
Dragoons have more overlap with Hololive than Niji

>>45090617
Suisei hate money confirmed.

>>45090303
It doesn't say, but im assuming it is there. its where it makes the most sense to be in

>>45089637
One of the best song will be released in 6 hours https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wztmSx2_T6w

>>45090620
I'm curious what does she mean by graduation?
Graduation from vtuber thing and focus on music only?
Graduation from all activities and becoming a housewife?

>>45090615
Only thing I speculated here was about the percentage of merch, other than that everything I said came from the mouth of the vtubers

>>45090617
They tend to do it for occasions like birthdays and seasonal events but they don't need to survive on it by releasing monthly voices the way niji livers do I guess. Might be because they get enough money monthly from other sources, might be because a single anniversary/birthday/event run makes them more than enough to last for months.

>>45090697
Probably should have done Kazama. Sakamata's song is better than most but kinda mid.

>>45090555
I believe in hag superiority

>>45090554
Retard.
>>45090605
This was put up as a rush job this evening. Obviously the description wasn't updated. Read the fucking chat.

The question that should be asked is why streamlabs isnt a thing in hololive to this day when it gives much more cut than SC?

>>45090472
>According to Lamy, profit-wise voice packs > other merch, implied to have a better cut
Anon you are confusing gross profit margin to net profit margin which is what she implied

>>45090798
nta but I disagree with you. I thought Chloe's was one of the best as well

Koyori's guest list
>La+, Chloe, Lui, Iroha
>Pekora
>Miko
>Suisei
>Marine
>Subaru
>Towa
>Gura

>>45090819
ogey retard, post japanese passport now or you're a tranny.

>>45090818
Isn't her oshi Pekora?

>>45090865
If she had any good guests she would have announced them already

>>45090798
I love Iroha but I think her song is one of the weakest in the album

>>45090824
The IDs can use it right? Kaela has streamlabs set up
JP probably doesn't know what it is an EN are too lazy/don't need the extra money

>>45090798
Her non-Holo*27 DECO*27 song is better than Holo*27 song

>>45090693
youre assuming again
you know for someone who uses that chart in order to stop anons from assuming you yourself are assuming a lot of things as well

>>45090870
You don't win an award for being a blind, stupid faggot, anon. Use your fucking eyes.

>>45090865
I think Miko and Polka are likely

>>45089492
sweet appetite ends up being one of the better songs on album lmao

>>45090950
ID only have it because Indonesian can't use superchat before

>>45090996
I accept your concession.

>>45090939
https://files.catbox.moe/tinhg5.mp3

It's really fresh and the reggae-like part was quite nice.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92tvv7PgKeI
Isn't 200k in around 12 hours pretty good nowadays?

>>45090950
ID used to use streamlabs because SC didn't available there. Now they uses sociabuzz, a local platform.

>>45090549
Wagiechama ...

>>45090697
Would have been the best song if they picked a better singer.

>>45090891
She's a chumbud

>>45090798
Sakamata's song feels like a walmart version of Ai Kotoba.

>>45090693
I also assume youtube to make superchats a service since its where it makes the most sense to be in and yet they didnt

>>45090958
I think both are good but I think it was bizarre timing to have an orison with him that close to holofes. The holo*27 isn't bad as an album, people took Sweet Appetite and Lip Sync and pretend that's all it is.

>>45091060
yeah but kinda underwhelming for a fotm song.

>>45091031
Make sure to cut your balls off when she graduates.

>>45090617
Because voice chat is the best gross profit margin wise which is what lamy is implying but merch are probably better when it comes to net profit margin due to the shares which is why they spam merch and not voice chat

>>45090082
>hanatan is graduating
Please tell me you are joking

>>45091145
Lip Sync isn't even that bad but it's just your typical DECO*27 song

>>45090262
>guys we totes got comfortable with not having to act like holo, like, for realz
Also, I thought that was the off-collab where Enna showed the others pics she has of little boys on her phone and they get all quiet.

what is this?
https://twitter.com/774inc_official/status/1635838230280142851

>>45091244
There is a lot more intangible investment in merch if they design it themselves.

>>45088121
Blackcolor got too cocky, they thought people will take it more seriously if they are not associated with Nijisanji.

>>45090950
>JP probably doesn't know what it is an EN are too lazy/don't need the extra money
Wrong. Coco kept pushing Cover to go for Streamlabs but they refused due to some retarded fealty to Google. Yes, Cover are that stupid. They only allowed ID to do it cause they could not get SC back then and I guess it stuck.

tldr; One of the many things Cover is being dumb about

>>45091265
https://twitter.com/cordelia_YURiCa/status/1635838234503815171

>>45091393
FUCK NO

>>45090262
I don't mind them saying they fail at being hololive but they're obviously throwing shade.

>>45087119
Roboco is getting replaced by AI

>>45090824
>The question that should be asked is why streamlabs isnt a thing in hololive to this day when it gives much more cut than SC?
Because you can get fucked by a dedicated group of antis or trolls by doing chargebacks like with what happened to some vtubers and streamers a few months back getting 15k-25k chargebacks

>>45091462
at fauna specifically since no one else in en talked like that...

>>45091031
>Concession poster
Nijinig is back.

>>45091481
AI will never be sophisticated enough to be that dumb.

Apparently the organizers had originally banned Selen because she ranked up to Predator prior to being in Nijisanji. After Axel spent a bunch of time negotiating for her - and after reviewing all her past and present accounts - they allowed her to be in rated at 10 points. They're still trying to confirm their 3rd member and a coach.

Also, she said that every individual collab has to be approved by management up to this point. That's why she didn't stream her perspective for the recent custom match. They're trying to get it worked out so they can stream whenever they want, at least for tournament prep and the actual event.

>>45091308
not really especially after 2020 since people will buy whatever custom merch there is without any research or development

>>45091439
No details on it though. She just shot that tweet out and put the frame up.

>>45090891
We dont need another failure like kiara

>>45091151
Nigger the only Holo cover of that song that broke 1 mil is Aqua's cover, nene hasn't even reached 200k after 12 days

>>45091306
Seems like just standard "stop harassing our talents on YT comments, DMs and imageboards, we'll get you if you don't!" statement every chuuba company is making these days. Did anything happen specifically in recent times to trigger this?

>>45091672
You mean, apart from the Zaion thing?

>>45091350
Does Kson even use streamlabs? It seems like that whatever argument Cover put forth swayed her to drop pushing for it as Coco, and its carried forth even after her graduation.

>>45091350
>but they refused due to some retarded fealty to Google
>>45091484

>>45088084
I don't think it's a primary reason for ENs woes, but I do think if they debut someone in their 30s in EN3, she'd instantly find an underutilized niche in EN Holo. Kind of saw it to a lesser extent with Vesper.

>>45091672
Everything 774 doing lately?

>>45091700
thats 774 nigga

>>45091700
>774 inc
>Zaion
No nijinig/dramafag/whatever the fuck you are not everything revolves around her.
>>45091719
>Everything 774 doing lately?
What exactly? I haven't been following them that closely except for tune in to the occasional Rene utwk.

>>45091580
>the organizers had originally banned Selen because she ranked up to Predator prior to being in Nijisanji
Man. Didn't t she get predator in season one?

>>45091801
Nigga this is the SAME GROUP that keeps Kuzuha a 7 just because he doesn't ranked. It's all bullshit.

>>45091765
Every restructuring they done lately?

>>45091580
so the trick is to change accounts before hit master?

>>45091843
>the SAME GROUP that keeps Kuzuha a 7 just because he doesn't ranked
I don't know how they get away with all of these wacky judgment calls and wishy-washy bullshit while also doing stuff like that. I mean, I personally don't care even a little, but you'd think Japanese twitter Apex autists would or something.

>>45091872
The trick is don't rank up at all just like Kuzuha and Ibrahim.

>>45091580
>and after reviewing all her past and present accounts
so after they confirmed that shes a shitter and won't interfere with the big bois club circlejerk they gave the ok.