/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Hololive reject? Hololive reject

>>4508939
even their japanese branch is getting mogged by hololive, heck even vshojo are doing better than nijisanji, there's no hope for them.

>>4508939
The day Nijisanji and their army of apextards die, is the day we the Holochads dine like Kings.

>>4509205
That's just the fish.

>Holo ID3 mogs them weeks before debut

>>4508939
Blame their management, they debuted when Shitpost review + fishtank podcast was going on, they really hoped their debut was going to anihilate the powerhouses that are coco and gura, bad move.

>>4508939
Ogey

>>4508939
They're all interesting, I expected Vshojo level of crudeness, got wholesome chuubas instead. I graduated from being a tribalfag after watching nijiEN.

They're doing fine. Fastest Nijis to get to 100k subs and have decent viewership relative to most vtubers and much better than they did as indies. The goal was never to be #1, just to have a foothold in the english market and they have just that. The youtube algorithm fucked Nijisanji early on and it is a complete fluke that hololive fell ass backwards into foreign popularity.

>>4509205
We could've got any of the three nijiEN for holomyth, we got kiara instead. Who did she fuck this time to get in

Nijisanji has Pomu, so Nijisanji wins.

>>4519927
>The goal was never to be #1
this is a nice way to cope nijikeks

They are way better than vsh*j* at least, and I would swap Kiara for pomu without a second of hesitation

>>4509205
have fun with kiara

>>4520219
Cope with what? Nijisanji met their goal with these three.

>>4520219
only a retard would believe they would get Hololive numbers. They're already the most successful foreign branch

Holos coping with the fact that they're stagnating while hardcore /jp/ oldfags and toxic gamers migrate to Nijisanji

>>4520219
numbers is not everything anon. I'm both subbed to Pekora and Gura, I don't even look at their viewership count anymore, most mature fans are in for the content. Would sub to membership to Pomu and Finana in a heartbeat to support them.

>>4520065
She has a disability called fibromyalgia. It's amazing that she can give such a performance while living with the debilitating condition

>>4520445
Don't make me feel bad. Also rrat and I'll never do my Kiara roomie reps.

>>4520445
I don't give a shit

>>4520065
Pomu didn't apply for Hololive. Elira didn't either. Finana did but plenty of people did. I bet most of HoloEN2 will be niji rejects.

>>4520445
God, hopefully it kills her soon

>>4520065
i think only elira is the one without a job. The other two most likely have work and can't work well in Hololive

>>4520487
It's not roommate related she talks about it on stream

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3WgnoVk9Z4

>>4520516
>Niji rejects
lol no
HoloEN 2 will get to pick from the absolute top of the talent available. Everyone and their mom watns the massive audience Hololive has.
Thos who get rejected will either apply again for Holo EN3, or settle for Niji

>>4508939
niggersanji’s english branch of second rate hololive rejects flopped even before it debuted.. can anyone say they’re surprised? Pekora 2m subscribers end of summer

this is a funny board

>>4520588
You're dumb if you think NijiEN didn't attract a bunch of people. Slots as cooperate vtubers are very coveted, only a nimrod would turn one down. Talented people are becoming more and more aware of vtubers, NijiEN's second wave will surprise some people. You're overrating hololive's relative clout. No female actually like hololive in a vacuum, they like clout and hololive happens to have some in the west.

Why are nousagis like this? I am a holofag but I respect nijisanji and masturbate to Tsukino Mito's JK legs.

>>4520445
Holy shit shut the fuck up

>>4520516
>niji rejects
hahaha imagine being so delusional

>>4520588
It's kind of a shame that hololive's main selling point is having a big audience in some countries. People don't want to join because they love the company or the cast, they just want to be paid.

>>4520588
at this point every new nijiwave will be full of holos rejects lol

I still hate the fact that we got Kiara over any of these 3 girls. Like how retarded can Cover be?

Stop being a tribalfag.

>>4520445
Fibromyalgia is basically the ultimate 'fake illness' for people desperate for attention.

>>4520433
If only the two fanbases dont butthead every now and then, still remember the 126k Pekomom screenshot they used every god damn time back then, now back to Gura's fans, and will be a repeat next time some new shit beats that

>>4508939
>They're pulling better numbers than half of HoloID, better than Mel, Choco, and Towa
>HAHA DOA
Ironically Holotriablists will say Anya "is happy with a low pop" or that Towa/Mel is just victim to Susan

We should all really thank the shark, for hyperinflating views to the point that anything below 10k on a bullshit stream is considered failure

I rather lose on the numberfag game than have the kind of garbage content most holos deliver, specially the en branch

>>4520588
You're very innocent if you think big numbers would attract good talent and not a bunch of failed hacks wanting a piece of that free 200k subs headstart you get from branding alone

nijikeks are seething...

>>4521752
Don't talk shit about Mori like that

>>4508939
It pretty much is, I can't do these streams with low numbers.

>>4520445
Pomu most likely has cancer and is getting operated on next month

>>4521849
they caught it extremely early, so it's going to basically be a near 0 risk operation with very optimistic outlook. To be fair any stage of cancer is terrifying so i can only imagine how much she holds back when she gets emotional

>>4520582
>My doctor told me that my shoulder pain is because I have daddy issues.
oh no no no, EU healthcare...

>You're exaggerat--
>Those current Apex viewer numbers.

That's usually a buff game. It hasn't even been a month yet and they are this low? They are at least better at retaining viewers than Nijisanji ID which the average member that isn't Hana is below 100 live viewers. They are just doing better than Anya when she plays a literal-who type game. Did the honeymoon end so soon?

>>4521930
the fish will probably graduate due to low numbers

>>4521701
Towa gets fucking 10k with Minecraft, how much does Pomu get? Fuck off with this shit.

>>4521930
>Apex
>buff
Not in the western world.

>>4521930
They're unaware that doing a triple broadcast is terrible for a collab. 2 of them need to power down and rotate the 5-8k people the one channel will get

>>4521901
Do you think she brands the image of being a crybaby to cover her constant fear of death?

>>4521952
this

>>4521901
Yeah. I was still scared to death when my mom had stage 1 breast cancer , and she didn't even need chemo.

I have no idea if these nijiEN numbers are actually bad, or just people here wanting to shitpost

>>4522073
They're not going to fish numbers like HoloEN, but they're by no means bad. They haven't even made it a month since debut and Holotribalfags just equate numbers to quality, yet somehow conveniently forget that Holostars or HoloID exist. Hell even their star singer AZKI is so close to dead last it's a miracle they keep her since she can't sing, act, play games, or collab worth a shit

>>4520292
I know I am :)

>>4519687
Ame scheduled the podcast specifically to shit on NijiEN, she's a natural born killer.

>>4522303
You don't watch Watson it seems

>>4519687
Fishtank was scheduled after NijiEN announcement

>>4522073
They pull sub Kiara numbers, they're only barely ahead of HoloStars and IDs.

>>4522073
They're doing fine for their niche and will probably end up being the most successful international nijisanji branch, its just that holoshitters are all reddit numberfags

>>4519687
Thank God, last thing I want would be crossover from the cancer fanbases coco and holoen have, the few retards spamming the hi honey shit was already bad enough

>>4522203
>AZKi
>can't sing
Fuck you.

Also most HoloEN fans don't know who she is.

>>4522371
Dragon and Fairy will do fine, but the fish is shit and will be irrelevant

Does this board have so much tribalism because it's full of underage /v/irgins that only know how to argue about brands instead of actually enjoying things?
Just watch both holo and niji depending on what fits your tastes. It's not hard.

>>4522360
The fact that you use Kiara as a reference just shows you're a retarded HoloEN only simp.
They pull better views than Holostars and half of HoloID, along with some fledgling HoloJP literal whos like Choco or Mel. They perform on par or better than indy vtubers like Kana, Uto, Nabi, and Naname.

>>4522491
You're making too much sense Anon. It's almost like companies only have so many allotted slots for talent, and as such not everyone can get in!

>>4522491
No, it's because nijiniggers have been the scourge of Vtubers for too long. We will never forget Aloe.

>>4522474
I wouldn't lose sleep over finana leaving desu, she really sounds like a holo reject that cry herself to sleep everyday for not having 1m subs already, I'm glad eli took her over on subs so she gets a harsher reality check

>>4522629
Still tinfoiling that hard about a girl that fucked herself over by being a shit professional? Do you also believe it was nijisanji that put china against coco?

>>4520445
>fibromyalgia
Doesn't exist.

>>4522676
No, of course not, West Taiwan is its own cancer that needs to be firebombed back to the Three Kingdoms era. But nijiniggers are the worst ACTUAL Vtuber fans.

>>4520588
Basically this. No one sane would choose Niji over Holo. In the west, it's HoloEN>big indies>Vshojo>NijiEN and in Japan it's Hololive>big indies>774>vspo>Niji

>>4522629
Just remember everyone, this was the EXACT mentality people had for Amelia Watson and Calliope Mori when they debuted
Using /jp/ or /vt/ as a reference for talent or "worthwhile" vtubers will only pigeonhole you into watching Gura, Pekora, and Marine while you spam the same 3-4 memes in a thread dedicated to shitposting

>>4522491
Before this board was created, you could tell how obvious the /jp/ threads were infested of /v/ermin. Whenever there was a video game conference happening, the shitflinging would go drastically down.

>>4522704
>nijiniggers are the worst ACTUAL Vtuber fans
does this mean holo tribal faggots aren't ACTUAL vtuber fans?

>>4522048
NTA brooooo... we going into Existential dread topic and shit

>>4522048
She's had a shit life, but it seems she's tapering off from pitybux. To be honest though, if anyone deserves to bang the sympathy drum, it'd be HoloEN's Amelia

Why do people think being part of hololive is so glamorous or great? It is no one's dream to join, just a good business opportunity. People aren't chomping at the bits to join and passing up other opportunities.

>>4522643
Does she complain about her subs or numbers on stream or something?

>>4522801
Of course not, they're just redditors who get a hardon every time they get a vtuber to repeat their forced meme and like to promote sub bitting marathons to feel like they're winning some sort of race and then leave the vtuber to die if she's not providing them with enough clip material like they did with akirose

>>4522643
Zoomers...

>>4521701
>we're beating HOLO ID AND FUCKING CHOCO HAHAHAHA
Oh my God , do Nijikeks really?

>>4522957
No

>>4522957
I don't think so but her whole performance really reminds me of that style of appeasing to the lowest denominator

>>4522898
At least financially she doesn't sound to be struggling, she sounds really comfortable in leaving her job after getting the surgery and probably wouldn't even bother with the healthcare if the USA wasn't completely fucked up about that

>>4522981
>They don't pull good numbers
>Better than these areas
>OMFG Bro those don't count!

>>4523012
Gura's?

>>4522953
Because a bunch of retards will give you 100k subs before you even debuted, it attracts the laziest of that talents

POMU LOVE
UNITY LOVE

>>4523098
Gura pitybaits on streams? Is that how she get popular?

>>4523098
Gura already had a career built on that in her previous life

>>4523118
Speaking of unity I wish people would stop recommending those shitty unity stolen assets corridor "horror" games to vtubers

>>4522953
Because it's a free +100k buff and as long as you act sweet but sultry, the numbers will only rise
If Anya, AkiRose, Mel, or basically 1/3rd of the Hololive JP girls were indy, they'd be at the part where they offer to meet the fans for 50,000 Yen an hour

>>4509326
>heck even vshojo are doing better than nijisanji

That's not a reason to celebrate...

>>4523181
Braindead shark that plays zoomer games while pretending to be a sweet fun loving girl. Just girly enough to be desirable but not overwhelming enough like her genmate Kiara
>>4523188
Her previous life is literally youtube poop and LCD appeasement

Quick question, ff NijiEN had released in 2020 before HoloEN

>Will NijiEN growth timeline be higher or lower than the current?

On the thought if the vtuber market in the west grew with HoloEN or if it was consumed by it.

>>4509326
vshojo and their cult is whole other can of worms

>>4519912
I take Niji EN over Vshojo any day

>>4523339
Higher but not by much, people gravitated to holoen more because of the hololive brand than being english speakers, a lot of normies don't even know there's anything other than hololive

>>4521701
imagine being the number 1 vtubing company reduced into being compared to fucking holoid and choco just so they can say "hey nijien are bad but at least they're not THAT bad".

>>4522491
NIjiniggers ruined Hololive 5th Gen

>>4523339
They did, when they tried to rename NijiIndia or some other shit. HoloEN had to take the first step because they had the money and bravado to take the brunt of the unknown market.
Had Niji gone first (For real) they would have bailed out after 6 or so months

>>4523248
>>4523100
So no real love for the vtubers themselves or the agency as a whole... just a logo for shekels. It would be nice if these clout chasers even liked Hololive.

>>4523419
There was more a last attempt to save a failed branch than anything else, the converted NijiIN would be doing absolutely worse than the current nijien, it would be a terrible move if it ended up stopping them of setting a proper nijien branch

>>4508939
Good, even more reason for the most tribalist and shitpost-liable holofags to stay out of their streams and threads.

>>4521701
i mean choco had 4k on her morning zatsu. mel is around 3k. Towa is far beyond that on mincecraf and usually avergaes 4k on other games.
Niji en is on the 1-2k end. They are better than Anya and Reine level but Reine gets more views than them lately. So they are only better than Anya and that is only elira.
ichikara should have used ads for their channels rather than the fucking trailer that directed to the en channel. But they are doing better than indies so that is great. Pumu might die if her saviorfags dont ramp up.

>>4523248

>>4523435
>>4523100
>>4522953
Holy fuck I know Nijiniggers are desperate but this is ridiculous

>>4523419
Totally forgot that NijiIN was the first NijiEN, so actually this NijiEN is their second try at the English market.

>>4523548
Pomu is doing better than the fish

>>4523575
cope

>>4523548
There's a huge difference between someone with 70k subs doing 1~2k and someone with 630k doing 4k

>>4523589
they both are doing low. Im sure pumu will drop zelda for that.
i will actually try becoming friends with calli and try to collab at this point.

>>4523572
I'm not complaining, please stay on your holo bubble and never come here

When Nijisanji was the biggest Vtuber group, Nijikeks won't stop shitting on the Holos and kept flaunting their numbers

But when Holos are currently on the top, Nijikeks suddenly hate numberfags?

It doesn't work that way Nijifaggots.

>>4523435
Look up HoloEN's Calliope Mori, she is exactly that
>Hated anime, streamers, and vtubing as a whole
>Went to Japan as a gamble for the Jap Rap scene, but was barely surviving
>Begrudgingly applied to Hololive because a friend who was also a vtuber was applying and recommended she try it out
>She actually gets in
>Her first few streams are her swallowing her pride and barely getting the hang of Vtubing
>Now all she does is plug her music or make extremely generic vtuber-themed rap music
If anyone in HoloMyth is going to graduate, it's going to be Mori once her bank account has the right number of 0's