/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>45017972
>I don't think sending hateful messages to someone is ever okay to do
based
>to grow and learn from this experience
cringe

Also his gf is in the indie scene and probably got him to say it

>>45017972
I cannot believe I'm about to subscribe to Ren fucking Zotto...
Whatever. Blue Sugar is kinds good.

4 days too late noor. Reputational damage done

>>45017972

>I don't think sending hateful messages to someone is ever okay to do
has he talk about this with kyo and hex??
this 2 faggot make this situation even worse, especially hex. the one who doxx her is one of hex paypig

>>45018097
>to grow and learn from this experience
zaion grow so niji stock can plummets

Isn't this the faggot that tried to start a conversation with Pekora on twitter?

>>45017972
first off, based. unfathomably based to be the first one in NijiEN to address this, and pretty fucking directly at that. he's actually being a decent human being, and I don't think there's anything negative to say about his statement.

but with that being said it's UNBELIEVABLY FUCKING CRINGE that it's taken this long for someone to say something, and that he's the only one to do so as of now.

how is it that none of the fuckers who talked about Zaion's termination did this? it's so goddamn simple: "please don't harass her, leave her alone." Kotoka, Hex and Finana could've said this when they addressed it, why is it that Ren has to step up and say this when he hasn't even spoken about Zaion's termination until now?

>>45017972
I respect his take

>>45017972
Isn't this the guy who said Hi to Mumei on twitter? I wouldn't trust a word that comes out of his mouth.

>>45017972
She doesn’t need to learn anything. She wanted to be herself and Niji, despite hiring her for that, wasn’t interested in letting her be that. It’s really that simple. Other than that, decent enough message. Better than her fucking genmates, that’s for sure.

>>45018528
He tries to start a conversation with everyone, or used to anyway. I think he started doing it as a joke but getting ignored by literally everyone besides Ollie probably did a bit of damage to his pride.

Expect this response from livers who have never interacted with her and don't care about Twitter drama.
Fulgur, Millie, Alban and Nina off the top of my head.

>>45018607
Ren only streams about as often as Gura

>>45017972
Isn't this the guy who said hi to Mumei on twitter? I would trust him with my life.

>>45018642
Nobody should EVER join a corpo, Niji or Holo or otherwise, if they want to "be themselves". That is an indie mindset.

don't let kyo see this or /ourboy/ ren is next on the chopping block

>>45017972
>I don't think sending hateful messages to someone is ever okay to do
>Just leave her alone to grow

Based.

>>45018745
>Nina
you couldn't be more wrong.

>>45018745
>Millie
>Not caring about Twitter drama
Uhhh lol

>>45018528
>>45018614
>>45018725
sure, he might've clout-chased in the past and it might've been pretty cringe. but being the first person in NijiEN to say something sensible about this fucking radioactive dumpster fire of a mess is surely worth more than that

>>45018793
Or, get this - don’t fucking hire someone who’s clearly “problematic” and not going to suck corporate dick on command. This wouldn’t be an issue if Niji didn’t desperately try to scoop up every indie it can find to fill their hundredth EN wave they just announced.

maybe based, maybe just niji realizing the narrative is turning against them, we'll see

>>45018898
Ren doesn't even clout-chase, he's just friendly and knows nothing about vtubers. Total normalfag. I remember him joining a totsu recently and asking what a Tenga was.

>>45018953
You think Niji forced her to join against her will? No, she applied for it voluntarily. Someone who wants to "be themselves" should not subjugate themselves to any corpo, they need to stay indie.

>>45018953
Or, get this - if you don't want to suck corporate dick and submit to corporate bullshit, don't pass auditions for joining one.

>>45018766
I'll confess, I think I've seen only a handful of clips of him and never caught a stream, but a good statement is a good statement.

>>45017972
Based. Only pity is it took so long.

>>45019138
>>45019140
>it’s not my job to vet applications, it’s everyone else’s job to not apply
Does management do ANYTHING at this fucking company?

damn dude I am actually really glad. I was going into the depression stage after that animator tweet. I hope a few more do this. Big goal is for nijien account to also post and I can finally move on.

>>45019111
right, I really don't know much about him. if he was just being nice, all the better. point stands though: even if he WAS clout-chasing, it doesn't make his statement any less based, and it won't change the fact that I now actually respect the guy

>>45019111
In that case he will be the next target but I salute his self sacrifice to bullysanji

>>45019138
Why even have HR and rules at this point?

>>45018221
that'll make me hate his guts even more if true, proof?

>>45018853
Nina went through a lot of drama herself, and she was likely targeted by the same people that are doxxing Zaion now. Unless if Zaion went out of her way to step on Nina's toes I think Nina would be quite empathetic towards her situation.

>>45017972
It's a sad day when Ren Fucking Zotto is the least scummy person at your company

>>45019462
If you want to "be yourself", don't put yourself under corpo HR and Rules. Only indies can "be themselves".

Based for dragging this out another day.

>>45019140
how the fuck is it her fault for passing auditions? someone should do their fucking job and actually look into the people being considered for a position as an on-screen talent instead of just jerking their dick all day and approving the first five applicants they see

>>45017972
I'm not a fan of many NijiEN people but he seems like a good dude, always did. I'm gonna guess he's probably pretty sympathetic towards her but he's clearly surrounded by some talents that will hold it against him if he was to say "hey maybe Zaion isn't satan and there are two sides to this"

>>45019648
It's her fault for applying to a corpo (ANY corpo, doesn't matter what corpo) if what she wants is to "be herself"

>>45019575
it was more on "never interacted" part you were wrong.
Nina was one of those who was really often with xsoleil on discord pre-debut and post debut
Zaion was also on her chat during one of her tierlist stream with scarle, when it was her turn to be "ranked"

You know what, based. Also wtf "did she do something to you?"

>>45019718
So, again, nobody at this fucking company should be expected to do their job.

>>45017972
ngl, that sounded cringe but based, i would kneel but i don't like sucking cock, at least someone decided to do it AND IT WAS A FUCKING 100% MALE

>>45018607 (me)
the more I think about it, the more frustrating it is. Ren and Zaion only interacted a handful of times from what I can see on clips, and he makes this sensible statement defending her from harassment. Kotoka, her supposed close friend and genmate, says that she can't even wish her good luck and doesn't say jack shit about not harassing her. What the actual fuck?

>>45017972
Next original when?

I promised myself I was going to sub to the first Niji to grow a backbone and address this and it just had to be a homo..

>>45018898
Oh it absolutely does mean a lot, it's still the most professional thing I've seen of the branch as of late. He's encouraging people on both sides to just calm down, not to send hate towards Zaion since she's out and there's no point in kicking her while she's down, while also still reminding people not harass any of the other livers still currently streaming. A firm "Let's keep the show going" statement.
It's baffling that management isn't even as professional as he is, but at this point I'm just happy that there's one mature person working in that fucking company. This is how you stop a situation from getting out of control, just talk about it professionally and then say its time to move on. Management and some of the livers absolutely need to take a look on this clip and use it as advice with dealing with drama.

>>45019316
You shouldn't come here Sayu

>>45019835
he isnt in the clique, she wants to be in the clique, simple as

>>45019824
How are they supposed to read Zaion's mind to know "Oh, she's joining to 'be herself'? Maybe we should decline her application then"? No, that's something Zaion should know herself. She's not a kid, she's a hag, she should be able to know these things already herself.

>>45017972
ren and zaion should join our company

>>45017972
The bloods in the water, he knows that niji EN is about to be culled hard for this shit

>>45019624
Well maybe NijiEN shouldn't market itself as the place where people get to be themselves and freedom.

Of course a married man would side with a woman that was married at one point
Unlike that groomer Hex that will be cancelled soon

>>45019835
Ren was on hiatus and he's a total airhead. Probably didn't know the nitty gritty of the situation. I just find it odd that Nina, who was in the same situation a couple of months ago, never said anything positive about Zaion and even unfollowed her PL. There's definitely bad blood between her and some of the other members

>>45019969
>How are they supposed to read Zaion's mind to know "Oh, she's joining to 'be herself'?
How about watch her streams as an indie?

>>45017972
It’s such a rational and neutral take. In a non-clown world this would be the management-mandated response, and the only rrats floating around would be schizos picking apart who really meant it.

>>45017972
For a leach he's not so bad it seems, guess that makes the rest of Nijisanji even worse than leach even Pomu hasn't said anything against it which means that Ren is a better person than everyone in that company.

Eh, should've just stuck with saying to leave her alone. The whole learn and grow thing isn't happening. But at least he came to her defense.

>>45020073
You're confusing NijiEN with Vshojo, the "Talent Freedom" group

>>45019947
it's fucking baffling how ren was the most professional thing to come out of this company, more professional than their own management.

>>45018221
Who's the faggot pay piggy.

>>45020126
They would have if she had archived them KEK.
But seriously, pull your head out of your ass. It's common-fucking-sense to know that if you want to "be yourself", you shouldn't join any corpo, because they all have rules and regulations. If you don't want any rules or regulations, stay indie.

>>45019947
Yeah I don't know why Niji couldn't have included something like this in their statement and also asked their talent to say something like this. It's clear someone there WANTED the harassment

>>45017972
fair and based
fuck nijisanji, but might sub to his other work outside of them

>>45020073
remember when they kept saying they aren't idols and basically implying they aren't like holo/are better than holo even though a bunch of them are holo rejects

>>45020125
she cancelled all streams for days just before the announcement.
She's still on every sister shitlist, best not be involved.
And IF she ends up saying anything anyway, it won't be until her next zatsu.

>Risotto Ren is the most reasonable voice within NijiEN
GRIM

>>45019969
Some real corpo bootlicking shit here. Which is more realistic? Expecting someone who’s never been a corpo vtuber before to completely grasp what it’s like before she’s even done it, or expecting a corpo who’s hired, what, close to a hundred livers by now to anticipate in advance that some of their hires will not transition seamlessly into this?
Don’t forget that vtubing is still extremely new, so it’s highly likely that vtuber corpos each operate differently anyway.

>>45020532
>implying she didn't archive them when she has an archive channel

>>45020238
I'm not. Nijisanji in general is meant to be the wacky weird company that are just streamers not idols.

ndf bots

>>45020730
So only idols have rules? Does that mean that I'm an idol because I work for a company that has rules?

>>45020689
>close to a hundred livers
They're closing in on 200 if they haven't already surpassed it.

>>45019969
what the fuck do nijiniggers think the vetting and hiring process is for????
what does your management fucking do then? they cancel their concerts, they fuck up their graduation/termination announcements, they piss on ex-members, they can't vet properly, their merch is lopsided towards luxiem, they can't properly tardwrangle their talents. do they just take a cut of their talents money and fuck off? parasitic company if you ask me

>>45020672
Not necessarily. Despite everyone calling him a leech he really just comes off as aloof, optimistic and just seems to want the best for everyone.

>>45018607
Risotto isn't a particularly frequent streamer and the pressure to conform to the clique must be intense. That said the fact that he's doing this apparently unprompted goes to his credit. Dude is openly married too so it makes sense he doesn't have time for the underage zoomer/bitter cat lady shit coming from the rest of the branch.

>>45017972
The man of peace... I kneel. The guy is pretty cool, sometimes I see him interacting with random furry artists and indies. Seems to love everything.

>>45021036
Nijisanji is a yacht construction company

>>45017972
Hard to believe everyone hated on this guy before, but he's just a friendly boomer that wants everyone to be left alone in peace.

>>45020689
>completely grasp
So you're saying that she was willing to stop "being herself" in order to join a corpo? Then >>45018642 's comment about her wanting to "be herself" is bullshit.

>>45019140
>'Hey join our company we're all about allowing our talents to be mostly free to do what they want!"
>talented indie looking to progress in the world takes up promising invitation
>'actually no you can't be free fuck you for buying into our public image you're fired blacklisted defamed doxxed harrassed and stalked by our fans!'
If your company expects strict standards then don't set the market expectations as being the 'freer alternative to our stifling rival' dipshit and screen out the ones who might not fit during the auditions too. not like making sure new hires will fit in is one of the most important parts of the hiring process in showbiz or anything.

Anyway ren is based for this. I know shouldn't be at the point where basic human decency makes a person based but regardless he's making some nasty enemies behind the scenes to say this so based he is. I never really have him a look before but I might even check out a stream or two since he's a decent person and decent people deserve support.

>>45020947
surely you aren't THIS retarded
surely you aren't acting like the limitations in an idol company and a streamer company are the same

>>45017972
Holy Base Ren
Nijisanji doesn't deserve him

>>45020966
Shit, I just remember reading the number “70” at some point when looking up how many members they had, so I just assumed it was in that ballpark. The fact that NijiEN alone has almost 40 people should have tipped me off.
The number I saw must have been “170” or something, then.

>>45019947
Of all people in niji, I did not expect that response from him.
Really though, what the fuck is managment even doing, even then, what else can they do? They cultivated this type of fanbase from the start.

>>45018607
It's really obvious Ren isn't in any of the cliques, hell he's barely involved with the rest of the branch

>>45020593
>she's still on every sister shitlist
You're kidding, right? How are they so petty?
Surely Mika isn't anymore, right??

>>45021131
I hate that I know what's going to happen to him after this.

>>45019824
This might shock you but nobody says "hi, I'm gonna make a rape joke on stream" during debut

>>45017972
Good for him.

>>45021341
170 is the number I remember too, but I'm aware I'm remembering from a while ago so the odds are it's much closer to 200 than that.

>>45018607
>Kotoka, Hex and Finana
They literally did nothing wrong. You're being a stupid faggot and Ren is talking to you too.

Stop being upset and stop harassing people.

>>45021477
I mean probably? Mysta clickbaits stuff with her just to anger them

>>45017972
He's talking about Kotoka, etc. It doubly applies to Zaion, yeah, but first and foremost management is making him say this because of the harassment their current employees are receiving.

>>45021310
Nta but nijisanji never have this problem on what they said on stream, even niji girl talk about rape and giggle about it.

>>45019624
If you don't want your employees "to be themselves", hire a decent HR. Also, don't market yourself as alternative to hololive with high number of variety streamers.

Not going to lie, as a Zaimon coming from her PL I cried a little listening to this. I've been worried for her ever since her suspension and after all the harassment ramped up after the termination it's like there's been a pit in my stomach for days. Witnessing all these people who have never watched her painting her as a horrible, irredeemable person based on some clips and a single notice they probably barely even read. And then when she was terminated everyone just declared open season on her. Former friends unfollowing her and threatening to exclude her from the community she was once a part of, the sisters trying to make sure that she has no future whatsoever as an indie, the constant spam of doxx in Twitter replies. I can only imagine how she felt. Nobody at all showing a smidgen of kindness or empathy for her. The management just threw her to the wolves and told her to fend for herself, she's not their problem anymore.

I just want to thank Ren to showing her that small bit of kindness that literally nobody else has. It probably won't make much of a difference with regards to the harassment at this point but it shows that at least somebody is still thinking about Zaion and how she feels in this situation. I don't think there's literally anything Niji management can do to really fix the fucked up situation they put her in so this is the best I could have hoped for.

>>45021640
seethe

>>45021688
Anycolor/Nijisanji is a full-blown Japanese corpo, Zaion is a retard if she thought they weren't going to have rules to follow, including the most common-ass-sense ones like "don't talk about romhacks, piracy, unapproved game mods, etc".

>>45021678
Why was one of the reasons why Zaion was suspended and terminated "offensive jokes" then? Why was she harassed by sisters to the point of getting doxxed for a rape joke, if it's allowed?

>>45021732
I seriously can’t imagine how it feels when the only people defending your oshi is fucking /vt/. Anyone who doesn’t know the situation who sees that is obviously going to think Zaion is the one in the wrong. I get why, but it’s a fucked situation to be in.
That said, I have doubts that this will hurt her indie career in the long run as long as she’s learned to play more game than just Genshin Impact onstream

>>45021745
Anon, asking someone to behave isn't seething.

You're an adult. Please act like one in public at least.

my favorite Ren moment
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EhHfcWWOrzo

isnt this standard nijijp operating procedure
>terminate/graduate talent
>management and talent shit on them causing a firestorm
>belmond or someone people respect says "naruhudo no bully livers, bully bad onegai"
the next stage is the memoryholing and nijisisters saying "waht do yuomean the talents defended her"

>>45021732
you might want to check the whole context in his tream because this bit was due to the flak kotoka is getting after her judas bit. I think this whole bait is from some nijinig trying to direct the hate on risotto for free.

>>45017972
>"Sending mean messages is not nice"
fucking philosopher king over here

>>45021640
I'm not in their chats or @ing them on Twitter, and even if you consider shit said /here/ to be harassment, I didn't say that they should kill themselves or that they deserve death, and I definitely didn't doxx them. Expressing the fucking commonsense opinion that they should've said to not harass her isn't harassment.

These aren't randos, these are streamers with a fanbase. If they're going to criticize her and they have two braincells to rub together, they should be able to foresee that a portion of their audience is going to go off the rails and harass her. They can't prevent all of them from doing so, but the least they can do is tell them not to do it, instead of remaining silent on the matter.

>>45017972
Nigga might be a normalfag and very unsuited for vtubing. But at least this dumbass has a working moral compass.

>>45021974
It's because the culture around NijiEN has changed radically since Luxiem came on board. The Fujuosisters think nothing of trying to ruin any of the girls they can.

>>45022029
I hope she plays more horror Games.

>>45021974
if some one finds me her PL or current-future persona stream archive I can point out the why
In her marathon graduation stream she said how she was against the dramabating culture in NijiEN. Find me the archive specially the last stream and I will give you timestamps

damn he's really gonna trigger his femcel paypiggies

>>45021421
Because kyo back stabbed him, which I thought was based. but Kyo is a faggot.

>>45022230
philosopher king and an absolute saint when compared to the rest of his colleagues

>>45021893
Too bad none of that was the real reason she got kicked. She most likely got kicked out because she told them to stop interfering and start doing their job. Something a lowly peasant should be telling to her superior japanese boss.

>>45021893
Probably didn't think it would be that serious considering there are dozens of members before her that have done that

>>45022230
no other niji en member of management could manage that much and it's clearly not obvious to nijiggers

>>45017972
BASED guess I'll write his name off the list.

>>45017972
Nooooo Ren the clique will turn on you.

>>45022084
I mean he literally says that people shouldn't harass Zaion. He's basically saying "damn, she's fired already. Let it go"

>>45022230
NijiEN audience can't even get that right most of the time

>>45021477
she's staying in her autism lane now for like 6 months, so the sisters can't really hound her as much. Luca and mysta were probably the most rabid, and mysta/nina aren't interacting in public anymore, and it's almost the same for luca. I guess ike fan gave her a pass as she gave them the "god sees all" cover with the screamo. Vox fanbase have bigger fish to hate. Dunno about shu fanbase.

Probably also helped that Hex was their new hate boner.

From trying to talk with one of her roomates friends as Ren, begging for collaboration with events and sponsors on his corpo twitter, baiting responses from responding to holomems, to this. What happened, what made him change??

>>45022230
One eyed among the blind. If Finana did that instead, she would get back lot of the goodwill she lost.

>>45022558
neither can the containement breakers nor the average holotwittard. Idiocy transcend fanbases.

>>45021732
Everything may look bad now but as long as we continue to believe in her things will come to pass

>>45017972
Honestly, as boring as I find Ren, I do think he's pretty respectable. He's cringe, but he's not a bad guy. So.. this is just a cool thing to do.

>>45019296
Clearly not

Who the fuck expected Risotto to be the voice of reason?

If you harass vtubers you're an asshole

>>45017972
Honestly?
Kinda based. The bar is very low, but he manages to be better than the rest of them.
At least he's not being a piece of shit.
I'm sorry beggar man... we were too harsh on you.
The last line is a bit cringe but I can let it slide.

>>45021213
He seemed like a leech with his reply guy routine, and he had the poor timing of riling up the doxxniggers during Mumei’s birthday week. I think most people who complained assumed recklessness or cluelessness, rather than him being actively malicious.

>>45022423
It was literally listed as one of the reasons in her termination notice

>>45017972
Mumei still won't respond to you no matter how much you white knight for the fired whore Ren.

>>45022912
>Honestly, as boring as I find Ren, I do think he's pretty respectable
His whole identity was being a creep in other talents Twitter replies. Hes just not part of the clique is all

>>45023299
So was her joke about raids sponsorship.

>>45023398
I'll take the cute autist over actually malicious people

>>45023037
Ren's shtick is being the nice dude who actually takes care of himself. Even his normalfag genmates call him the "normie". Not surprised by his response.

>>45021732
Zaimon fan, dunno if you're still here, but what's your read on the whole situation as an OG fan?
Does she have the capability for being as bad as Niji says (which I personally have a feeling isn't true), or do you think that it was a series of unfortunate events? Or even worse, someone with an axe to grind? I'm curious because you're the one demographic we haven't heard much from.

Risotto... Thank you... My faith in humanity is restored...

>>45019917
Eventually. I believe he mentioned it during his current stream.
>>45019925
Ren is a chill dude, and is mischievous in collabs.

reminder that enna has clearly tried to get him into her clique but it seems like she failed

>>45023374
>mumei
What?

>>45023374
Mumei will probably not respond to him, but I'm sure as hell that Sachii will do as she has done before.

>>45024523
Apparently his wife was friends with her back in the day. Not sure if they’re still close, Mumei seems to increasingly treat her IRL self as a burden that gets in the way of being Mumei.

>>45017972
The "learn from this experience" part is kinda cringe desu but i'd respect all of NijiEN a lot more if they had taken this stance.

ren... thank you..

he seems like a decent dude, it was funny as fuck seeing /vt/sisters make a big deal out of him tweeting at holo members but he genuinely seems like a nice guy without any scumbag underlying intentions, probably not involved in any of the dramashit under the hood at nijiEN.

>>45017972
Literally every other statement made on the subject should have been just this and nothing more.

https://discord.gg/EDjfPJNF

>>45017972
>middle-aged man with actual life experiences isn't acting like a petulant faggot who grew up on the internet
color me surprised

>>45017972
What the fuck is wrong with this dude, the first instance I saw of this guy is the Mumei reply shit and he came off as a leech.
But then the subsequent instances I've seen are just him being based with the "dinosaurs are cool" tweet and then this.
I kneel alien fag.

>>45026096
He unintentionally set himself up by @‘ing Mumei out of the blue as his first attempt with the girls. Combination of poor timing with her birthday that week and not knowing that anything involving both Mumei and NijiEN in the same sentence is a schizo landmine. Good to see him being a decent person and not trying to rile up a lynch mob.

>>45017972
Based. I used to hate this guy for trying to bait replies from Holomems on twitter, but you know, every interaction I've seen from him has been very solid. Not cringe nor menhera. Stable fellow.

He might have tried to be a bit of a twitter leach, but all in all, I think he's probably a very decent stand-up guy.

>>45017972
ALL OUT CIVIL WAR

>>45017972
She doesn't need to "grow and learn". She had no freedom to be herself and the company fucked her

>>45026629
it's just how he genuinely uses twitter, even back then
he doesn't give a shit and just randomly starts tagging people and join in on conversations. brand accounts, companies, nobodies, other content creators, you name it

>>45026629
You'd think he's leeching only from screenshots of him @Mumei and Gura when in reality he does that to everyone, even indies and rando porn artists. Basically he interacts with the first thing he sees on his twitter timeline.

>>45017972
>tried to leech off Gura and Pekora
Thanks but Zaion doesn't need you support.

>>45020194
I can't believe I am now rooting for this guy because he is the rational one in a sea of clowns. He did not say anything heroic, just a normal regular response, and yet this gets me to want to support him.

>>45026818
So zaion and ren in one side while kyo, kotoka, hex and finana on the other. Seems like a losing battle

>>45018221
For Kyo he already said what he thought via that message, but he can't up and say it IS kyo
For Hex, well.....there's just no stopping pedo scum. They're almost always the very same people that demand harsh punishment on people as if to off-set their own pressures

>>45017972
Now the clique is gonna go after him for being the one to actually address it and making the rest of them look more shitty than they already do.

>>45017972
Literally what all the other tards had to do, "welp she is gone, dont harass her tho, much less on nijisanji's name"

>>45027274
Don't harass them* with a veiled implication
Earlier today some retards superchatted shit to Pomu and some 2-3 people fell for yesterday's Elira vid

>>45017972
Never watched him, never planned to and still won't, but he's got my respect which is more than I can say for any other NijiEN.

>>45027377
Anon, if you really don't think he's talking about Zaion you should maybe go back to school and brush up on your eigo listening reps.

I think the livers should stfu about Zaion after this. It should have been that way after her wavemates said their peace, but Finana decided to randomly mention how she was gaslighted (using the word incorrectly) for no reason. And whoever decided to change the title of Maria's cover with Zaion was an idiot and just fanned the flames more.

>>45017972
leech is already on his way out doesn't have much to lose

>>45020228
Pomu is not her wavemate or whatever nijis call it

>>45027470
It was a double dip bro. Standard corpo speak where you are addressing A with the added bonus of touching on B, whomever they may be
Whoever? Whomever?

>>45027479
This. I fucking hate that dumpster fire of a company and I've been enjoying everything unfold, but all of this shit is so fucking easy to avoid its hilarious.

>>45027618
He literally said leave her alone and leave her to grow and learn, or whatever.

praying for ren

please no sudden 2 week visits to mom or sudden doxxing in kyo's likes

>>45017972
man better watch his back for going against the narrative

Goodbye Ren. Thank you for your sacrifice.

Uh oh, doxxsisters are not taking this well. Ren might be in trouble now.

sane take. hope this sort of behaviour is rewarded.

>>45028224
Niji fans are fucking insane

>>45028224
Jesus christ
Truly a blight of vtubing

>>45028356
>>45028419
You've seen nothing yet

>>45028224
This just reads like some leftypol shit where they try to cancel someone who doesn't go with the ''norm'' pretty bullshit if you ask me.

>>45028531
>>45028224
Holy shit, actual mental illness

>>45028531
nijiniggers... your fanbase?

You guys are alright, far better than the shit i see from the sisters on doxsite.

>>45028531
And this is why I will stand with Zaion for as long as I have too, fuck these doxxtrannies, LUV me Zaion, simple as.

>>45028224
>>45028531
>Turning on their own
How am I not surprised?

>>45028224
>>45028531
Burn it all to the ground

>>45028531
I was in the NijiEN thread around yesterday and saw someone gloating about being in a doxxsister discord planning to cancel Zaion. These people are fucking insane.

I thank Zaion for exposing the ugly faces of NijiEN members out of their le happy big family mask.

And also kudos for Cover to not let any of those snakes into their company. I'll take Mori, Vesper or Kronii retardations over having any of them in holo.

>>45019925
>The monkey's paw curls
Be careful for what you wish for Anon...

>>45017972
At least one of them has some basic decency

>>45028531
This is actually fucking disgusting. I’ve seen plenty of schizo’s saying the most bat shit stuff on this board, but good god, when you manage to make /vt/ look morally superior, then you know it’s bad. Genuinely hope Ren doesn’t end up fucked for this.

>>45028531
>I want her gone
Do you think they might be retarded?

>>45028790
Yeah and he just came back from a ''break'' which we now know is just fancy word for shadow suspension by niji standards, so he's probably the next one out the door.

>>45028531
>anonymous
meh

>>45028891
Nah, dude unironically has shit going on outside of Niji, probably a spring break thing with him and his roomie. This is his hobby, like with Reine from HoloID

The one true Nijifag with a spine and backbone

>>45028891
>nijien killing their biggest music male
I wouldn't put it passed them seeing how JP graduated a bunch of music organs over the years

>>45028531
>Nijinigger mentality

It'd be cool if someone could actually point to this doxxing discord. I'm pretty sure mass reporting it will get it taken down.

>>45028531
Who saves the weak from the company that saves the weak?

>>45028531
I want to say I'm surprised but considering how nijifags act here, it just makes sense. Ren better start downloading all the discords and record his calls.

>>45028224
>>45028531
Absolutely retarded if they actually go after Ren. Dude is one of the most clean and "unproblematic" in the branch and just loves making music.

>>45029267
If Kyo or Enna say a single word against Ren over this, shits not gonna end pretty

>>45028531
>I want her gone
But she's been terminated already? What more do they want? Will they not be satisfied with anything less than her death or something? Legitimately insane. Then again, with how NijiJP fans conduct themselves this isn't really a surprise.

>>45028224
>Being told not to harrass someone makes Nijisisters seethe
I can't even feel bad for the talents. They decided to cater to this shit.

>>45021893
>"don't talk about romhacks, piracy, unapproved game mods, etc"
And yet they play 3DS games, which you cannot capture without a custom installed capture card or software that requires custom firmware. Console and game modding are illegal in Japan.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nFNKckAl-Y4

>>45029388
>NijiJP fans
Bruh Mafumafu fans were going to take a trip to JP after the Not-rushia debacle, and Rushia fans were trying to find Mafu's address during the event
I'm starting to think JP in general is just as batshit crazy as SEA

>>45017972
>Ren denounces anti-Zaionism
BASED
>>45029414
n-no you can't point that out!!!!

>>45017972
Cool, when is he telling Kyo then?

>>45028531
Someone makes a thread out of this. I just want one of the Niji talents who are definitely here to see the kind of fans they have.

>>45029381
>inb4 planned collabed between Ren and Kyo after Kyo's "break"

Ren... The doxxsisters are coming... Please stay safe...

>>45028878
retarded but moreso evil

>>45028224
>>45028531
The core fanbase of nijisanji btw

>>45028531
thought that site got shut down, when did it come back?

>>45029582
>seems like
So this is what happens when you build a foundation on RRATS.

>>45029582
Very concerning how fast niji fans turn on their livers

>>45029267
If you don't mind me asking, who are the best dudes at this point? In regards to what you mentioned.

I don't know much about niji, but so far I've thought Aster, Ike, and Sonny have all been very well-meaning fellows.

>>45029582
>Bets on him being an abuser?
>He looks like one lol
Do these people not realize he's a person behind an avatar

>>45029582
Reeks of fujishits or troons.

I was gonna write off nijiEN as a failure
But seeing maria and ren makes me rethink everything

>>45028224
>If you don't want to stand up against bad actors then just don't say anything at all.
So this is why the silence of others are deafening.

>>45029754
Anon, the site these sister use to chat is the vtuber doxx website. They know it perfectly.

>>45029582
>calling Ren an abuser
>when someone like Hex exists in the same branch

>>45029414
>Kyo also played Pokemon from a 3DS in his first week
How did he get away with it?

>>45029754
Pretty sure they mean his actual looks since they named his wife or long time gf

>>45029625
The day where Laplus is back on twitter if I'm not mistaken

>>45029718
>Sana's dead dog/back hurt saga was met with non stop insults and doubt
>Ame/Same is basically taking anything gura says and turning it into abuse accusations towards Ame
>Everything about Luna
>Oceane fans turned on Kawaii instead of being logical
>Enna got spit on at a pub in England and comments told her "Good"
>Fubuki got death threats when she said "It had to be done" in regards to Rushia's termination
>Literally everything about Coco

Remember that its not reserved to just Niji or even Holo. The meme of touching grass started for people exactly like this. They are unironically the worst possible "fans" you could ask for

>>45028531
>Nijiniggers will actually look at this and think the livers are shitting on Zaion genuinely instead of because they're afraid of the mob

>>45029388
they want her gone from internet, didn't you see that they were trying to spam report her twitch channel?

>>45029582
It's like peering into the schemes of some cartoon villains concocting their next scheme in real time. I can visualize their scheming hands as they pitch their rationalizations for their future crimes.

>>45029899
Hex said zaion bad though
That means he could rape all the menhera fujos and its totally fine

>>45029899
facts dont matter, only tribalism

>>45027479
>It should have been that way after her wavemates said their peace,
they blamed her for getting fired
>but Finana decided to randomly mention how she was gaslighted (using the word incorrectly
some nijifaggot intern literally used the clip and spammed it in pro-zaion threads, or any nijithread at the time for that matter
>And whoever decided to change the title of Maria's cover with Zaion was an idiot and just fanned the flames more.
it was maria herself, stop fucking joking

>>45029582
>Niji is imploding
huh, who could have seen this coming?
ZIEG ZAION

>>45028224
>>45028531
Why do they use the dox site comment section as a fucking forum?

>>45029953
Reminds me how Pekora got spammed with rabbit gore on her art tags for not streaming on b2 when the account manager (who had no contact with Pekora) promised a stream.

>>45030150
because they're unironic stalkers

>>45030161
sounds like what nijisisters would do

>>45020532
It's also common fucking sense that entertainers, actors in particular, are complete unhinged weridos, drama queens, and loose cannons, and you need to personally manage the specific mental illness that every single one of them has. If you hire one, you can't claim to be completely blindsided by them pushing boundaries and not wanting to behave, you can't get huffy that they aren't slobbering your knob, YOU chose to work in the entertainment industry and hire actors, you should know better than to expect them to defy their nature. Instead, NijiEN management completely embraced and encouraged the menhera of several of their talents even as it started causing drama implosions, and when they hired one who's a different and incompatible kind of insane, they chose to pour fuel on the resultant flames instead of doing their job and mitigating the damage.

>>45017972
AIEEEEEE SISTERRRRRRR TERMINATE HIM, QUICKKKKKKKKKKKKK!!!!!!!!!

>>45030147
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2-HmXFbMGE

>>45029953
>>Sana's dead dog/back hurt saga was met with non stop insults and doubt
In here. And after more than a month of break or something.
>>Ame/Same is basically taking anything gura says and turning it into abuse accusations towards Ame
ENshart shit unrelated to us, right though - ENfans are schizos
>>Everything about Luna
Nijikek shit unrelated to us, right though - Nijifans are schizos
>>Oceane fans turned on Kawaii instead of being logical
Villainess never betrayed them
>>Enna got spit on at a pub in England and comments told her "Good"
Good
>>Fubuki got death threats when she said "It had to be done" in regards to Rushia's termination
Twitterzoid shit unrelated to us
>>Literally everything about Coco
Chinkping shit unrelated to us, C-Country has a water army culture

Holy shit how do we get these people from that other website out of this hobby? I have never seen anything posted from there and if that is what is going on it seems obvious those fans(?) are the problem for all sides here.

>>45028356
They really are

>>45019835
>What the actual fuck?
Spineless Japanese woman vs White Aussie male.

>>45029919
JP's been doing it for years too. Really wish they announced how it's being done but it's probably just Citra. Or because he's part of Enna's clique.

>>45030369
Luxiem must go

Wow. Now they're going after Ren. NijiEN is the worst thing to happen to vtubing. These people are legit scary

>>45030369
this is when you've known you lost. hololive people had nothing to do with the public company image yet Nijisanji decided to tank itself anyway. It's really quite pathetic.

>>45030390
Isn't just saying this a crime?

I just want to go back to 2020 bros
Everything was so simple

>>45030390
>I'm going to hurt Zaion because
>she hurt finana
Nigga you WHAT

>>45030369
Kill Luxiem. They brought in all the crazy/schizo sisters into the scene. Tempus sisters aren't anywhere near as bad as them in comparison.

>>45030390
The absolute irony of announcing the stupid shit you're going to do and expecting it not to blow up in your face
>>45030537
Yes and since the retard probably is using his actual twitter account and not a spoof, AnyColor could use this against him if they wanted to

>>45017972
lmao a leech coming out with the correct take

>>45030440
I don't think that will even do it will it? Maybe one will have to go for them to all turn on each other and put that fire out, but holy shit what is going on over there is magnitudes worse than what happens here.

>>45029953
>Enna got spit on at a pub in England and comments told her "Good"
And I'll say it too. Good. Londoners spitting on a child predator is the most based thing they've done since losing the revolutionary war. https://streamable.com/2qgth0

Ren take care of your kids

>>45030390
Because the corporate mouthpiece got her feelings hurt from being unable to read a script properly?

>>45030390
Please tell me they got ratio'd at least.

>>45030582
Why would they?
Kurosanji wants this

>>45017972
>from all of nijien it was fucking REN the one with the common sense
HOW

>>45030390
They really are the worst fans in vtubing

>>45030630
even if he deletes it now, all it would take is Anycolor asking Twitter to provide his info
>>45030698
Anycolor, the company that is pouring in millions with Cover for anti-defamation and harassments procedures for all of their talents?
>>45030537
>"Under federal law, swatting is generally punished as a felony, and a conviction can result in years in prison. For example, the crime of false information and hoaxes carries up to five years in prison. But if serious bodily injury results, the sentence increases to up to 20 years."

>>45030735
He's not in any of the cliques.

Nijisanji fans are actually fucking evil people to be disagreeing with this, holy shit. Really puts into perspective the pathetic faggots that are trying to attack Hololive.

How did it come to this? Doxxing, SWATTING, death threats, mass reporting channels...what did she do to deserve any of it? Man. People are nuts. Never get famous

Hololive fans dodged a fucking bullet with Tempus being a separate branch and all, absolutely nothing good has come from mixed gender collabs and having to share a fandom with females is one of the most miserable experiences you will ever have

>>45030793
Zaion isn't a Nijisanji talent anymore.

>>45018175
>4 days too late noor. Reputational damage done
This only makes Risotto look good really. Niji is still a terrible black company and should be destroyed.

I can't believe that, out of everyone in there, Ren is one of the nice guys. Very based of him, i guess.

>>45030793
Yes, Anycolor, the company that has done precisely dick all to stop any of the harassment Zaion has been getting

>>45030827
so that makes it okay? even fucking cover didn't encourage people attaCking rushia's personal accounts.

>>45030582
The fact that in the notice they didn't tell people not to harass Zaion means they fully support this kind of behavior.
>>45030819
A Raid Shadow Legends joke and an unfinished rape joke. Meanwhile Enna could probably stick her arm inside a kid's ass and jack him off at the same time with handcam and it'd be okay in Anycolor's eyes.

>>45030824
If you think males are the cause for this and not company culture and mismanagement, you haven't been looking.

>>45030819
Made a joke about being sponsored by Raid Shadow Legends
This is entirely on Kurosanji and their shitty statement

>>45030827
>Zaion isn't a Nijisanji talent anymore.
They allowed the harassment and actively encouraged it when she was still a talent for an entire month. They completely banked on it so they could use it as evidence she should be fired later.

>>45030735
Someone post that screencap with every other niji tweeted some sappy shit and then he goes and tweeted about loving dinosaurs

>>45030548
There's parts of tempus Fandom that are like this. Mostly in Altare's fanbase. Has to be watched dilligently

>>45030793
>Anycolor, the company that is pouring in millions with Cover for anti-defamation and harassments procedures for all of their talents?
you know Zaion was being doxxed since her first suspension announcement, right? where's the supposed millions they've been pouring into those anti-defamation and harassment procedures?

>>45030916
Because Cover isn't a black company

>>45030965
Not actively.
But by not disavowing it they negligently allowed it.

>>45030537
Technically no. "I'm ready to" is not the same as "I am going to...now" so it's not a threat. Ofc, you can take it to court and put it in front of a jury to determine if "I'm ready to" is the same as "I am going to" in this context. Then again, if they follow through with it then that is just incriminating evidence.

Think of it like this: "You make me want to stab you." You don't know when or how so you can't determine with absolute clarity that I meant what I said.

If I said "I am going to stab you now", there isn't much room for misinterpretation.

>>45030824
>having to share a fandom with females
we already do and they're fine. it's the type of female that's the problem. underage third worlders

>>45031021
>negligently
you mean purposely

>>45030827
They didn't say anything about the harassment while she was still part of Nijisanji though. That went on for the better part of a month. Even Cover told people to stop harassing Rushia.

>>45019947
It's funny that the management sounded like gossip girl or some twittercuck posting a #cancel<insert name here> thread

>>45017972
I mean I believe Ren is right Zaion is already out of the company what does being a brat about her still do exactly? Holding some type of grudge is unhealthy especially over things that aren't to bad in this situation.

>>45031021
I only say actively encouraged because with the first suspension notice they went,
>Hey fangirls and fanfags, she make some super inappropriate jokes, shame if you went looking for them and started a hate campaign *wink wink*
The intent to harm her was always there.

>>45031094
it helps the company image :^)
zaion was the bad guy here you guys

>>45031036
How about this?

>>45018745
>expecting this response from members of the enna clique
lol. lmao even

GOD I HATE CHINKSISTERS SO MUCH IT'S UNREAL

>>45031021
By vagueposting about insensitive statements in her suspension notice, they encouraged every twittertard within earshot to sift through her vods with a fine-toothed comb looking for something to be outraged about.
By mentioning her other social media accounts in the termination notice, they encouraged people to look for them.
There is no negligence here. Companies that big don't release statements without putting them through a few different attorneys to make sure everything is kosher and saying EXACTLY what they mean to say.

I'm tempted to send the retard fish a superchat asking her how she feels about getting Zaion SWATed

Before we found out she was terminated the stuff with kyo or whatever there were already people doxxing her other account because of the jokes and justified it.

>>45031196
Don't, they'll use it against Zaion by claiming her fans are toxic and are harassing the other talents.

>>45031147
kek
yeah that's a crime

I can't believe, out of all people, Ren was the one saying something decent about the situation, while some of her genmates basically spat on her grave.

>>45031237
I wasn't going to do it, just had the thought

>>45031094
>Holding some type of grudge is unhealthy
Holding a grudge is nijisisters natural state and they aren't exactly healthy mentally.

>>45031196
falseflagging sister tactic, see the menhera mystake who pretended to be a lunaito while harassing people like pomu.

>>45031147
In that case, depending on her state laws and she believes she's in fear, she can report that to the police

Out of all the things Nijisanji fans has done against Hololive, this sort of self-destructive and evil cannibalism is the only thing that makes me want an all out war.

>>45031246
who the fuck else would say anything decent about her, everyone else is basically in the clique

>>45031246
Ren is known for being a chill guy. People took it as a fake act on his part but maybe he actually is that way.

>>45031147
>openly says he's going to commit a crime on twitter
What a fucking retard.

>>45031246
Probably because he never had to deal with her unlike her genmates

Sisters genuinely believed harassing would help her "change her ways and become a better person"
They're not wrong. She will be the one to crash this den of snakes down with her own hands.

>>45031246
Ren already has the money, he can afford to be unemployed so the stakes aren't that high for him to be able to say that. Meanwhile people like Finana are on life support with her NijiEN emplyment.

>Nijinigs are actually trying to get her actually killed
Yikes. Who knew /vt/ was the most sane.

>>45029582
>>45030390
These people seem actually dangerous, and I think Nijisanji had a duty to protect Zaion from this sort of schizo exposure

How is /vt/ the least schizophrenic of the overall vtuber fanbase/community?

>>45031357
I don't think her being a cunt is a justification to go after her after she was fired. She was fired for whatever she did.

You know things are bad when even the /NijiEN/ thread is cheering for her bullying. It's literally 99% sisters there now with no male posters in sight. The only way for the voice of reason to speak out is to make catalog threads.

>>45031438
They invited them in the moment Luxiem debuted.

>>45031458
They mearly adopted the schizophrenia
We were born in it
Molded by it

>>45031388
It's because they're all communist Chinese
Struggle sessions are their bread and butter

>>45031326
>A company can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, her clique's whispers rustling through all of social media, heard in the very halls of management itself.

-Marcus Tullius Cicero

>>45031480
you know, even /hlgg/ still defends kronii and mori

>>45031302
Well I have noticed it really makes me sad to see people become like this or who they always were idk? This is gonna sound lame but holding so much of these negative emotions will only hurt you in the end better to put the energy into something meaningful.idk if they will find that peace of mind or not

>>45031147
I've never seen a more free legal stomp out in all my days

>>45031458
/vt/ is just retards and autists, not actively malicious like cesspools like twitter.

>>45031537
>>45031302
I guess there's a reason why they're watching 2D anime men instead of dating... They're like us on the surface but a lot more malicious and psychotic.

>>45017972
>The clueless one has the most sensible stance.
Huh, sometimes two wrongs do make a right.

>>45031458
try reading some other threads sometime

start with some kronii and ame collabing with the holostars classics from the archive

>>45031458
JP and SEA have such an atrocious existence, that this delusion is all they have to count on
Most of us in US/EU/UK are happy with good paying jobs, with our special others, and in a very low stress environment, so we can walk away from this show at any time

>>45029743
The only shitty thing I know about Sonny was that he faked his own death in a PL. As far as his Niji career has gone he seems to be pretty chill

>>45031357
They're vtubers. They barely have to interact. And never in person. They're such divas

>>45031634
>he says while Twitter is planning Zaion's assassination

>>45031329
yeah after reading >>45019111 I'm kinda coming around to him. or maybe he just doesn't mind embracing the cringe, which is also kinda based

>>45029743
Ike rubs me the wrong way when he said he's NEVER going to play the wizard game. He's actively courting the SJW audience, his fans are also insane.

Zaion genuinely needs to move house as soon as possible and scrub EVERYTHING from social media
I wouldn't put it past one of these psychos to actually show up at her house and try to kill her at this point
All over a shit joke

>>45030819
Do? You misunderstand. This is maximum femoid thinking we're dealing with here, and third worlder femoid thinking to boot. What someone DOES is irrelevant. What matters is that she is marked for exclusion and they can't figure out the bounds for wht counts as exclusion, so they're going to just try to attack in any manner except personally physically (getting someone else to do it would of course be fine) until they're satisfied and/or distracted by the next thing.

Isn't this just some sleeper account playing both sides of an argument? I don't get it.

>>45031357
He had to deal with Kyo though and even make a shitty ship out of it , which i consider and infinitely worse fate

>>45031147
are these zoomer trolls really stupid?

>>45031760
To be fair, all of luxiem fans are insane

>>45019575
>I think Nina would be quite empathetic towards her situation.
Nina is fucking traumatized my nigga, she won't say a single word for or against zaion, she literally just want to be happy
and "helping" people is the fastest way to be unhappy

>>45030349
>anon is just listing bad shit fans have done to livers
>you get genuinely butt hurt and feel the need to defend most of them

you're part of the problem faggot

>>45031591
I enjoy watching the 2d men and girls but , sometimes I think there were people who already had issues before viewing this content.I hope this wasn't mean,Just levels that are way beyond what is acceptable

>>45031822
Well Yaminions are insane in a way that's acceptable (self-destroying) so they don't attack others that much.

>>45031824
yeah, Nina will just quietly pretend that none of this ever happened and play her weird autism games, she's already been in the crosshairs once and she's in no rush to go back

>>45031824
what happened to her?

>>45031790
I don't see any playing both sides. Seems like they hate Hex too though.

>>45031934
She lent a lot of her time and support for Luxiem in the beginning because she was worried about the male wave flopping but soon after, the sisters start going against her thinking she's "leeching" the boys.

>>45031357
>just because she may have been a cunt behind the scenes it's okay to shit talk her after she's gone retroactively sending your schizos after her to do even worse

retard-chama...

>>45031956
The most recent tweet is telling them report for showing doxx shit. This guy doesn't follow any niji and was inactive since 2015 until 5 hours ago. Sus as fuck.

>>45029743
Alban is a good boy, the hardworking type like chimken

Let's say if they swat'd her and it goes wrong what would happen to niji? "Ex talent dies because she got doxxed" that would absolutely ruin their reputation specially because they didn't do anything to stop the doxxing

Nina isn't gonna defend Zaion. When Yugo graduated she said she haf no opinion and "whatever the companies opinion is". She wants to stay out of drama and avoid being targeted again like she was in the past. I don't blame her.

>>45029582
>omg you're right!
I genuinely can't tell whether this is sisterposting or they actually type like this.

>>45017972
Ren NO. You're going to get yourself suspended.

Do I need to be ashamed of being a luxiem fan cause I only want peace.-.

>>45031934
After her offcollab with Luxiem sisters waged a months long hate campaign against her and drove her into a depression
You ever notice that she barely interacts with them anymore?
It's because of that
Also she revealed that Anycolor forces livers to read EVERY piece of hate mail that gets sent through the official complaint form

>>45032045
>Dies
That is a miniscule chance, like on a level of near impossibility
From every swat thats been shown, most officers know you aren't going to be ready for them so at worst, you see 12+ people rapidly overwhelming you with guns pointed.
Zaion is a tiny ass chink with 0 weapons so they would probably not even keep formation once they see her and know its a SWATting

>>45032045
It'll ruin their reputation for sure, probably tank their stock and cost them sponsors when it comes out that they did absolutely nothing to prevent this

>>45032104
>Also she revealed that Anycolor forces livers to read EVERY piece of hate mail that gets sent through the official complaint form

>You have to sit there and read all the chinese seething in front of management
kek, no wonder she's not a communist anymore

>>45029582
>>45028531
>>45028224
>Doxfujos are gunning to cancel Ren
You'll fight for him right?

>>45032062
They actually type like that. All the time.

>>45032158
Only if he's still fucking the blue wolf girl
Single men need to stay away from our oshis and it gives me hope that i can land a qt voice gf

>>45032158
Absolutely
He seems like a genuinely good guy and he doesn't deserve anything sisters might do

>>45031995
>>45032104
Damn I remember the leeching and offcollab spam but I didn’t know schizos took it that far. That really sucks, especially since she seemed to enjoy hanging out with the guys.

>>45032103
Why would you have to be ashamed of that? If you're a fan of luxiem you're a fan of luxiem. So long as you're not a deranged sister like the ones shown in this thread then you're ok.

Hopefully Sayu took the posts and comments talking about swatting and brought them up with her local PD. They won't do shit about the people posting it obviously, but they can basically earmark her as a swatting target and just send a normal patrol check up when/if the demented nijis actually go through with it.

>>45028878
they mean forever anon
not just niji, they want all of sayu's socials banned

>>45032038
i think he's a finana anti using his alt

>>45032146
>>45032148
I'm not saying that is likely it's just that i kinda remember that it happened once, i might be wrong.

>>45028878
They want her gone from the internet. iirc they were trying to get her twitch account banned

>>45032158
What? No.
There's pussy to be had under seig zaion but what's in it for me to defend a man?

I think this is the first time I've ever actually heard this guy's voice.

>>45032158
I'd sooner fight side-by-side with a fag than to allow evil twittersisters a triumph.

>>45032158
I admit I had been shitting on him for being a shameless attention whore on twitter but his statement about this shitfest made me rethink that maybe he's the only human being in NijiEN with some actual conscience.

>>45032226
I don't think I'm like them no twitter and etc desu and I would generally feel bad about doing something like the stuff on the tweets

>>45032356
>ren
>a fag
My dude, if anything you're the fag in comparison to who he has sitting in his room some days

>>45032158
Don’t watch him but any of the harassment in this entire situation has been brain dead retarded so of course I’ll argue in favor of one of the few people calling out the harassment.

>>45032391
Then you're fine and don't need to worry.

>>45030827
>Not our talent anymore
>Discarded like a trash
Nijisanji mentality

>>45032158
I'll shamefully admit I never gave him the time of day after seeing him spam random people on twitter. I wrote him off as a dumb clout chaser and never looked back. That was my mistake. He seems like a real standup guy. So yes, I'll fight for him if the doxcunts try to cancel him.

>>45032459
It's actual subhuman behaviour and it's hilarious they don't see it.

>>45017972
Oh shit, can't believe this guy of all people would be the first to address it.
I wonder how management will react. inb4 "family visit"

>>45032502
Since this was his first stream back from a break, I don't think even Nijisanji management would be dumb enough to suspend him right now.

>>45032227
If she even knows about them. I don't know if she's even on twitter. Her only activity is in her own discord and occasionally liking youtube comments.

>>45032618
>her own discord
They're talking about it for sure

>>45017972
I've shit on him for his retardation in the past, but this is based. Especially because NOBODY else from Nijisanji is stepping up.

>>45032104
>Anycolor forces livers to read EVERY piece of hate mail that gets sent through the official complaint form
false, the way she talked was a weird interaction with whoever was in charge of that and a single instance
Probably a retarded-out-of-touch JOP staff got fed with the amount and send it to Nina
But overall the damage was done long ago

>w-we're totally the victim guys!!
>zaion is le bad, trust everything we say even though you will never hear her side of the story because of NDA!!
>p-please continue to support me!!!
Literally everyone aside from Ren. The only one with a moral compass.

>>45032455
Alrighty thanks

>>45032615
>I don't think even Nijisanji management would be dumb enough to suspend him right now
I wouldnt put it past them

>>45020535
>It's clear someone there WANTED the harassment
we'll know this for a fact if Ren goes on a """short break""" in the coming weeks.

>>45032221
being excluded by her utaite wavemates was a one-way trip to hanging out with the males
and once her support for them turned into channel growth she got addicted

>>45032615
Have faith in NijiEN management. They are that stupid.

>>45032502
He's gonna get sent to the farm upstate

>>45032749
>get bullied by your genmates
>go hang out with people who are cool with you and genuinely want to be your friend
>get harassed by thousands of subhuman Chinese fujos
No wonder she just stays out of things, her entire career has been nothing but shit

>>45020073
Upon whoever said this, reflecting on this now must be in such a sad and deluded mental state

>>45032955
Reminds me of then Vox said "your mum" to Sonny which caused his chinese fans to dogpile Vox en-masse because it's apparently an insult in china. The only stopped because Sonny had a whole seperate stream telling them to cut it out and explained the context as western banter.

>>45022701
SHE GASLIT ME, YOU PARASOCIAL FUCK!!!

>>45018607
>reddit spacing
Go back

>>45032502
Bet he'll have to extend his break.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6sFaDTuvG4
This happened just a month ago. Scary how things turned upside down so drastically.

>>45026916
30yo boomer

>>45033224
>>45026916
It's a throwback to when people used to greet their neighbors.

>>45031151
Nina is not in the clique
https://streamable.com/32zdvc

>>45033214
The fact that her Identity cover still says "first duet cover with Zai-chan" in the description leads me to believe she's still on her side, but is obviously not allowed to say shit.

>>45033214
>she's not mean she's just .... cute
>Entire niji fanbase considers her hitler
just like in real life

>>45022676
nothing changed, seems he's just an airheaded nice guy who doesn't understand vtuber backroom politics

>>45033286
There couldn't possibly be a more damning confirmation that Ethyria was the beginning of the end of NijiEN.

>>45033286
I like how many streamables are coming out just because of this incident. Do the one on Enna saying vulnerable women are better next.

>>45031458
4chan banning raids at least developed a culture of telling someone inciting shit to NYPA and fuck off.
Meanwhile Twitter really has malicious retards banding together to discuss their next target. I don't know if it's because it's not in the site's rules or if Twitter is just too big to effectively moderate.

>>45033428
Or Enna flashbanging Ethyria with her special pics of children

>>45017972
I've never really liked him much before but he's actually-sensible here. It's not hard to say "ya know we probably shouldn't immediately pubicly kick an ex-coworker when they're down, that's just a dick move" and he's apparently the only one out of like 30 people with the balls to do it.

It seemed to me that for the past week the other ENs all thought that they could collectively gaslight the fans into all hating Zaion now but this was a foolish errand because nobody really hated her before, and she actually never did or said anything super objectionable outright. There's no a-ha pinpoint moment people can look at and go "yep she fucked up, oh well" with like Rushia objectively breaking NDA. Their suddenly vilifying someone after the fact is a bad look, and since the original reasons didn't sway everyone they're straight up weaving rrats themselves about her changing the focus of the story, stopping short of slander by being vague because they know if they list specifics that Zaion could prove weren't true that is legally slander.

>>45033286
The other 3 already knew one another. Nina came in as an outsider streamer from Twitch while the others were utaites so they ran in the same circles.

Are the sisters threats remotely credible?
I say this as a vapid petty bitch who got accepted into a jp uni with the primary goal of entering Japan and stabbing mafumafu.

>>45031995
she was 100% leeching lmao.The boys exploded upon debut, there was never really a point where Luxiem even came close to looking like flopping

>>45033810
I'm pretty sure she was hyping them up even before they debuted, although I may be misremembering.

>>45033770
>I say this as a vapid petty bitch who got accepted into a jp uni with the primary goal of entering Japan and stabbing mafumafu.

>>45022701
Lol Finana is way too much of a dumbfuck to do that. She got tricked by *them* into believing the word trap was evil after all.

>>45033286
>>45033420
Enna and Millie's relationship somehow reminds me of the relationship between KD and Kyrie

>>45033810
No, she's been hyping them up since predebut. Even had a dedicated stream a day prior. She expressed how much she likes male vtubers and hope they'll be received well. Luxiem didn't get much traction until later on.