/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

/#/ is declining

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0usYxw3pko

Parade, Parade, Parade!
Shining brightly, using our calling voices as a cue
Parade, Parade, Parade!
I'll go looking for you... no matter how many times I have to start

I simply wrote down a monologue
I simply ran, just to get started
Far away, lit in the dark
It was a name that was too bright
It was a memory that was too kind
I reached out to get closer
Unexpectedly, we came together
Look! The lost children,
have become "us" now!

Parade, parade, parade!
We will shine brightly!
Drag your regrets and your love along
Winds, dreams, wings.
We'll take off into the sky
That little prayer is a light
Signs that never end
I'm proud that I was able to find you
From here on (KOKO KARA)
From now on (KORE KARA)
Our Bright Parade, Parade!
Our Bright Parade, Parade!

I still have an unreliable feeling
I'm not ashamed to sing about it
The "Imaginary" that no one can solve
A spell so that we may meet again
The story that began from zero on that day
An uncountable number of words
But these aren't feelings that can be numbered
Look!
Now, let us call "us" as "one"!

Parade, parade, parade!
It's beautiful isn't it
A moment when we can forgive each other
The night is sparkling!
Rain, Sunshine, Kaleidoscopic
A sky like no other
A journey that's worth taking
Is being with you. (KIMI TO ARU KOTO SAAA)
It's all about being with you. (KIMI TO ARU KOTO NAAANDAAA)

When I hear "I'm home"
I'll shout, "Welcome home"
Isn't that obvious?

Parade, parade, parade
We will shine brightly!
What fills the the darkness
It's you! And it's me! (KIMI DA, BOKU DA!)

Parade, parade, parade
We will shine brightly!
Drag your regrets and your love along
Winds, Dreams, Wings
We'll take off into the sky
That little prayer is a light
Signs that never end
I'll jump and fly with you
It's a splendid start
From here on (KOKO KARA)
From now on (KORE KARA)
Our Bright Parade, Parade!
Our Bright Parade, Parade!

A reminder that using "livers" to refer to vtubers is absolutely retarded.

>>44920011
>Hololive centric thread
>Hololive centric board

Bae's shorts performance really isn't that terrible in context, non of holoEN's recent shorts do that well. I think you need to be a consistent shorts creator before the algo will pick you up and start shilling you to the kiddos who actually use that feature

* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY *
>96,477: Shion (Hololive)
>55,844: Aqua (Hololive)
>55,380: Pekora (Hololive)
>36,916: Toya (Nijisanji)
>36,096: Nijisanji (Nijisanji)
>32,992: Marine (Hololive)
>27,010: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>25,790: Mochi Komame (Indie)
>23,637: Shion (Hololive)
>23,015: Suisei (Hololive)
>22,753: Natori Sana (Indie)
>21,995: Subaru (Hololive)
>20,836: Koyori (Hololive)
>20,492: Kanata (Hololive)
>17,644: Korone (Hololive)
>17,326: AZKi (Hololive)
>17,163: Hal (Neo Porte)
>16,752: Chloe (Hololive)
>15,506: Salome (Nijisanji)
>13,320: Met (VSPO)
>12,756: Koyori (Hololive)
>12,713: Fubuki (Hololive)
>12,550: Luna (Hololive)
>12,537: Okayu (Hololive)
>11,694: Watame (Hololive)
>11,443: Kanae (Nijisanji)
>11,345: Ange (Nijisanji)
>11,284: Lauren (Nijisanji)
>11,035: Nerumero (Indie)
>10,805: Fubuki (Hololive)
>10,629: Lui (Hololive)

You guys are exactly like HoloEN, you desperately need new stuff because you are so predictable and boring.

>>44920171
>MARCH 2023 GOLDS
1) Nerumero (Indie) - 32,543 - Genshin gacha
2) Mio (Hololive) - 42,700 - Mahjong tournament
3) Gura (Hololive) - 67,405 - 3D showcase
4) Toya (Nijisanji) - 68,467 - Oekaki no Mori tournament
5) Miko (Hololive) - 138,977 - 3D birthday live
6) Marine (Hololive) - 39,525 - Minecraft w/Kanata
7) Miko (Hololive) - 42,738 - Soulcalibur 6
8) Pekora (Hololive) - 52,296 - Clubhouse 51 totsu
9) Subaru (Hololive) - 33,648 - Minecraft
10) Suisei (Hololive) - 45,471 - Micomet mocopi Switch Sports
11) Lamy (Hololive) - 44,322 - Clubhouse 51 w/Kanata, Chloe & Marine
12) Shion (Hololive) - 96,477 - 3D birthday live

>PER COMPANY
10x: Hololive
1x: Indie, Nijisanji

>PER STREAMER
2x: Miko
1x: Gura, Lamy, Marine, Mio, Nerumero, Pekora, Shion, Subaru, Suisei, Toya

>2023 GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
54x: Hololive
14x: Nijisanji
2x: Indie
1x: VSPO

>PER STREAMER
21x: Pekora
6x: Marine
4x: Toya
3x: Miko, Mio, Subaru
2x: Kuzuha, Lamy, Nerumero, Nijisanji, Okayu, Suisei, Towa
1x: Choco, Gaku, Gura, Himawari, Hinano, Hololive, Ina, Kiara, Koyori, Mito, Mori, Nozomi, Polka, Roco, Shion, Watame, Yashiro

>>44920068
I AM SO FUCKING HYPED BROS

>>44920223
>comparing interns to HoloEN
Ouch, that must hurt them.

>>44920223
Ok sister

>>44920068
Goslingbros, UnicornCHADS and all Holoenthusiasts alike. it seems OUR BRIGHT PARADE has only just begun. In hololive we believe.

Ina,Gura,Ame = Trinity
Kiara,Ame,Ina = Mahjong trinity
Gura,Kiara,Ina = Poptart trinity
Mori,Ame,Kiara = Booba trinity
Ina,Kiara,Mori = Puyo trinity
Gura,Mori,Ame = Bitchin Kitchen
Ame,Gura,Kiara = Dance School trinity

Gura,Kiara,Mori = ???
Gura,Ina,Mori = ???
Ina,Ame,Mori = ???

>>44920223
>desperately need new stuff because you are so predictable and boring
but enough with Riku's ACCELERATE

>>44920223
I like the same old stuff over and over

>>44920068
I'm pretty happy of being the first person that wrote PARADE PARADE PARADE with a link to the song some days ago.

>>44920134
Stop coping Brat you're embarrassing us in front of sapGods

>>44920278
Go ask global, mythfag

>>44919797
Those are just their autismo comfort zones. Aqua likes to hide herself underground, Pekora likes to isolate herself on high places.

>>44920068

>>44920134
I'll be honest shorts are literally black magic to me, at least with other stuff you can have a rough idea of what will do well and what won't.

*FINAL EN TALLY OF THE DAY*

>3/12 DAILY TALLY
9,341: Kiara (Hololive)
8,941: Ina (Hololive)
8,703: Shu (Nijisanji)
7,375: Ver (Nijisanji)
6,793: Fauna (Hololive)
5,457: Baelz (Hololive)
5,249: Ike (Nijisanji)
5,000: Mumei (Hololive)


>EN GOLDS FOR MARCH 2023
1) Mori (Hololive) - 18,696 - Monopoly (w/ Amelia, Magni, Vesper)
2) Vox (Nijisanji) - 8,614 - Return Stream
3) Gura (Hololive) - 67,405 - 3D Showcase
4) Amelia (Hololive) - 39,353 - 3D Showcase
5) Hololive English (Hololive) - 57,045 - Myth 3D Collab
6) Fauna (Hololive) - 6,793 - Penumbra
7) Kiara (Hololive) - 24,018 - Myth Offcollab
8) Shu (Nijisanji) - 10,195 - Return Stream
9) Ina (Hololive) - 14,532 - Minecraft
10) Vox (Nijisanji) - 10,791 - Charity Stream
11) Pomu (Nijisanji) - 19,891 - Outfit Reveal
12) Kiara (Hololive) - 9,341 - Karaoke (w/ Towa)

>PER COMPANY
8x: Hololive
4x: Nijisanji

>PER STREAMER
2x: Vox, Kiara
1x: Mori, Gura, Amelia, Hololive English, Fauna, Shu, Ina, Pomu

>POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)
18p: Fauna
16p: Vox
13p: Kiara
9p: Mysta
8p: Ina
7p: Shu
6p: Pomu
5p: Mori, Gura, Amelia, Hololive English
3p: Uki, IRyS
1p: Pippa, Elira, Rosemi, Mumei

>>44920134
Uh anon someone posted kiaras short numbers. They are like 5 times of what bae gets

>>44920223
it's comforting, it's like home

>>44920374
>2023 EN GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
47x: Hololive
22x: Nijisanji
2x: Holostars

>PER STREAMER
8x: Mori
7x: Amelia
5x: Mumei, Baelz, Ina
4x: IRyS, Fauna, Vox
3x: Mysta, Gura, Pomu, Kiara
2x: Selen, Kronii
1x: Ike, Flayon, Alban, Elira, Luxiem, Finana, Millie, Luca, Regis, Enna, Rosemi, Hololive English, Shu

>2023 POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)
59p: Fauna
54p: Ina
50p: Mumei
48p: Mori, Amelia
42p: Vox
41p: IRyS
40p: Baelz
33p: Mysta
31p: Kiara
17p: Kronii
16p: Luca, Pomu
15p: Gura
13p: Selen
11p: Uki
9p: Millie, Enna, Ike
8p: Finana
7p: Regis, Shu
6p: Elira, Rosemi
5p: Flayon, Alban, Luxiem, Hololive English
4p: Vesper
3p: Sonny, Hakka, Magni
1p: Meloco, Shinri, Gavis, Axel, Maria, Pippa

>>44920374
Mmm... chicken ties.

Bae deserves more fans she's far more entertaining than fauna

>>44920223
>Be nijinigger
>Willingly browse /#/
>A known hololive colony
>On a Hololive board
What did our resident nijisister mean by this??

>>44920353
the only clear thing about shorts is that they're reclining. this is filian, look at how the views have died compared to previous month

>>44920374
What are you using for that Kiara number?
Because with N 2.6 filter it's 9.98k and with surge it's 9.7k

>>44920223
if you want cunny you only need ask

>>44920425

>>44919797
THE POWER OF THE STORY! AIEEEEEEEE

>>44920134
But what about when you add her TIKTOK short numbers

>>44920333
Has Aqua already started building tunnels?

>>44920482
Kys irystocrap

When EN3 comes, Bae seriously needs to look long and hard at her content and make choice. She's probably going to be the one who will be affected the most by a new gen. Kronii is safe unless they get another sex voice chuuba that has a coomer model to boot, at which point she might actually become redundant too. Hoomans are autistic so Mumei's safe. Fauna turned her saplings into unironic mommyfags so she's probably safe too. Bae's fanbase is more normie/zoomer oriented so when the new shiny Hololive gen comes in, they're more likely to abandon her. She might unironically become the first sub 1k holoen member if EN3 actually turns out to be a golden gen like JP3 and ID3. And I know that's still enough to make a living and shit but Bae has already shown that she's aware of her numbers and does care about it even if only a little bit.

>>44920482
Her not having fans is her own problem. Like who goes into hololive and says "I took this job to collab with Roberto".

>>44920593
>Myth shorts only has 61k

>>44920425
Her first 2 shorts were higher

>>44920593
>the retarded kobo one has more views that the shuba ass-slaping chitty bang bang
Am I just not enough of a zoomer to understand shorts?

>After failing to start fauna v kobo, sister moves to fauna v bae

>>44920374
Damn that artist really knows how to draw sexy thighs

GRIM

>>44920531
NS filter with the slider at 8.1

>>44920550
gib cunny

>>44920550
not him but i want cunny

>>44920696
I think she is aware of that, a couple months back i remember some member of hers asking us what advice to give her when she asked and this recent review of hers shows that she is aware of her content and has some desire to improve upon it.

>shitty nijisister timeloops are boring
>SHUT UP SISTER
What did /#/ mean by this?

>>44920727
Always Fauna huh? I genuinely wonder why. Maybe sisters are jealous we give too much attentione to her /here/ instead of them. Kinda pathetic ngl.

>>44920374
>9,341: Kiara (Hololive)

KIARA GOLD!!!?? Insanity. Kiara is literally walking in the footsteps of her oshi, Pekora. Kiara is a numberfaggot in the making. We will be spectating her number career with great enthusiasm.

>>44920661
I actually missed the streams, have to watch the VODs. But that's what she always does, I'm assuming what the anon I was replying to said is true.

Kiara is not sexy, I will not fall for KFP psyops.

>>44920696
Bae is going to be Roboco tier.

>>44920705
>September and October 2021
Wasn't that literally when shorts were supercharged in terms of algorithm as well as shortly after debut?

>>44920708
Indos are really desperate for kobo interactions with kiara. There was a time where they spammed kiaras chat to ask her about kobo collabs and it got so bad that kiara had to adress it. Also videos of kiaras ass are pretty common. She really likes showing it off

>>44920517
And it's not like the "quality" or quantity of the shorts has changed.

>>44920708
its a matter of what gets picked up on the algorithim aka Black Magic

>>44920696
>Mumei's safe
Anon she already lost a lot of viewers judging by her recent ccv

>>44920939
If only she would make my dick hard like the sexbot does.

>>44920705
>>44920944
I don't even remember those being shorts at the start.
Wasn't that before "shorts" was even a separate video player on Youtube?

>>44920962
>Indos are really desperate for kobo interactions with kiara.
Why?

Stuffing my head between Shion's legs!!

>>44920847
Yeah she specifically mentioned in a membership stream around late last summer that she's aware of her recline and is continuing to try and do her best to overcome it, even recently she mentioned her manager pushing her to release more original music to expand her influence this year rather than spamming covers just because they're easier. I've enjoyed a lot of the more experimental shit she's been pushing out lately like the 2.5 model vlogs and finally getting to see her do that stupidly fun dancing stream but it's a shame it's not really taking off proportional to the effort she's putting in. But who knows maybe now that she's out of school for good she'll surprise us

>>44921051
All of their collab were genuinely fun, and they gave birth to some of her most viral clips. Honestly, they have good chemistry, the Mario party offcollab also showcased it pretty well

>>44920550
Yes please

>>44921051
She's the stand in for "annoyed mom" or "millennial vs zoomer" dynamic.
It's a pretty good comedic pairing, especially for clips.

>>44921045
I don't remember, but shorts got introduced in July 2021

>>44920860
possible reason

>>44920517
That only indicates that Filian is going into the hole, which was expected without having anything else that hit it off big.

>>44921051
They genuinly create some great moments together. Kobos call in when kiaras was sick was the highlight of the stream

The only EN that will die from EN3 is irys since she isn't in a gen. And she definitely won't reach out to them kek

Does anyone have the Aloucucks image? With the handholding and Kyo's cuck comment layed over it

>>44920847
This is probably me just cooking up rrats but I wonder if Bae kinda maaaybbe regretted outing herself as a homolover during her debut? Yes, I know Rob is her Oshi and I commend her for being the most professional of the entire Homofaction when it comes to collabs with dudes. But that start seriously fucked her over. It also doesn't help that she's a zoomer so she's irony poisoned as it is. And she looks like a very stubborn person, but only in a way that she won't renege on something if she feels like she did nothing wrong. The issue is this hobby isn't for normies in the first place. You can't expect a bunch of people whose gotten used to one thing suddenly being forcefeed something completely different which is what destroyed Tempus 1's goodwill. So, yeah. She's kinda stuck in a way and I don't really know what I would advise her to do at this point...

>>44921161
Yeah most likely. That and also the fact that Fauna is a CGDCT chad and sisters can't accept that she's doing well after spending months spamming incel. You can see those exact types suddenly appear in the rare occasion where homos or homo collabs manage to overperform.

>>44920860
Fauna cute. And the sisters hate what they cannot be

>>44921294
Irys recent numbers worry me. Especialy her vod views seem to have gotten even lower to almost bae level

I miss fauna

>>44921138
It's difficult but not impossible to incline at this stage of a career cycle, I think it just takes sustained effort even if initial results aren't mind-blowing.
It's a painstaking and slow process to acquire customers vs. retaining ones you already have. The traditional common sense is that it costs 4-5x as much to acquire a customer as to retain one.

>>44920727
>>44920860
Holo EN board and Fauna is the most consistent member currently and often gets propped up here as at least having decent streaming practices that the others should emulate. It's not surprising.

>>44921309
I don't think she has made that connection

>>44921299

>>44921309
I'd wait until after HoloFes weekend to see what impact she'll have on the #'s. Moona inclined pretty hard after her performance at 3rd Fes, Bae could do the same, since she accidentally revealed shes singing Play Dice

>>44921359
Her getting sick right after she said that she was going to be a streaming monster didn't help. She wasted the redesign buff.

>>44920550
huh, guess i never restocked my Shion folder.
>>44920171
Some ai stuff is most i can contribute.

>>44921480
>since she accidentally revealed shes singing Play Dice
really? was kinda expecting her to sing Sana's song

>>44921480
>since she accidentally revealed shes singing Play Dice
It's literally her only original, what else was anybody expecting?
That's like saying it was a massive suprise that Ina sang Violet, Gura Reflect or Risu Alice&u

>>44921594
>>44921576
lol

>>44921313
This. Our resident nijisister just can't help it. They blend in so perfectly and hide in shame when NijiCN is in the dumps but whenever nijiCN is slightly not in the dumps, our nijisister will shamelessly reveal itself for whatever reason as if we care.

>>44921381
She needs to fulfill a niche. Think of Subaru who basically didn't exist until she found her niche of being a normalfag that gets corrupted slowly by actual otaku stuff. Screaming like a monkey at the drop of a hat isn't exactly what I would call filling a niche.

how did this happen? didn't he have the most hype debut and the best design?

>>44921504
>she was going to be a streaming monster
Anon, no one actually though she would actually do it. She's one of the least motivated member in hololive.

>>44921657
>Subscribed
kys homobeggar

>>44921657
Interns kept shilling him here and it backfired

>>44921504
Being a "streaming monster" doesn't help her in any way. She streamed like 2/3rds of February and her numbers weren't improved by it at all. She has always benefited from low numbers of streams padded by events and return streams. Her recent numbers are literally just what she is and always has been when she can't dodge overlaps.

>>44921657
I would try to guess but I really can't because I've avoided even hearing this guy's voice like Neo in the matrix dodging bullets. I can proudly say that I know literally, totally nothing about this one except his shotabait design.

>>44921683
i'm subscribed to all holos

>>44921686
yeah but didn't interns shill all homos? most of them didn't flop this bad

guys?
i think we're gonna get raped in the thunderdome

>>44920374

>>44921657
>Subscribed

>>44921773
>holos

>>44921773
A real unityfag would pretend homos didnt exist

>>44921309
she would have to publicly annouce that she is going to rebrand also publicly announce that she will no longer collab with males as part of it
this way she would get the attentions from all the people who have abandoned her
will she ever do it? nope because of her western "can do no wrong" mentality
will management even let her if she wanted to? nope because the hate the "incels and unicorns"
would it even work? who knows, because just it might just be like innocence lost that can't be re-gained

>>44920696
>She might unironically become the first sub 1k holoen member
you niggers have been saying this about HoloEN for three years
if sana didn't go sub 1k nobody will

>no NijiENs or HoloENs live
nice coverage you got there Noor/Omega

>>44921860
....not like there's any holoJP too

>>44921657
>subscribed

>>44921846
Genuinely schizophrenic post

>>44921846
>she would have to publicly annouce that she is going to rebrand also publicly announce that she will no longer collab with males as part of it
Anon, if you don't think she would get a massive negative backslash while doing it, you're retarded. When miko stopped collabing with males, she didn't announce it, she just, did it. Announcing it is showing your motives to your audience, and they're not going to like it, because you're not doing it because you believe in it, you're doing it as a powergrab.

>still trying to shill that fag
Why are interns like this

>>44921860
I mean Gayon is live

>>44921657
>subscribed
while we're at it, why is he so fucking unpopular? I only heard people making fun of him for his shit numbers but don't even know why sisters hate him so much.

>>44921846
She doesn't have to annouce anything, just gradually or completely stop doing it, people won't even notice anyways so it's pointless

>>44921846
Her problem isn't homos. It's been schedule and content.

>>44921950
He just needs a really good meme. Since we're all really vtuber business-savvy and knowledgeable about meme culture in this thread, we should come up with a really good Machina X Flayon meme as a joke. Just to see if we can.

>>44921988
from what I've read here, either
>his game choices are shit
or
>there's a leak on his RM about using HRT

>>44921934
of course she would get backlash, from the crowd that doesn't watch stream, buys merch, or members her
but the most important thing is it would get attention to your intention, otherwise it would be a very long slow climb if she just did it "secretely" and even then people will start asking questions after a while
as I implied I don't actually believe either of these things will happen, she will just continue like now

When will VSPO interns start shilling Benisex on the /#/ thread

If I was Bae's manager and she told me that she wanted to incline no matter what, the only thing I could think off to spark something/anything would be to 180 on everything that she's done up to this point
>Cutoff the homos, both EN/JP. Unfollow them on twitter, never even mention their name.
>Silently kill of baerys. There's a reason why NoeFlare and Pekomiko died, neither party wants to be an accesory of the other.
>Seperate or at least limit yourself from interacting with the chadcast crew and try to get into SNOTako. The key to incline in EN is to get in Gura's and her fanbases good graces
>Minecraft 3x. Coordinate with Fauna and try to establish a storyline like HoloJP. Hook up with Kaela when she's online. Make yourself a presence in the JP server to bait clippers.
>Go full on Subaru route. She needs to study how the duck inclined to first army despite being a low to mid tier holo for 2/3rds of her career. She has no hope of becoming EN Pekora but being EN Subaru is a reachable goal.
>Gachibait like crazy. She has it in her but her irony poisoned mind just won't let her go all in on it. She needs to establish a bigger, more loyal following who will spread her name via word of mouth and translated clips. Fauna literally has at least 3 exclusive clippers who contributed to her growth.
I know that Bae ain't doin the first half of this shit since she's a good rrat and it would go against her morals. But the latter half is something she can do, I think.

>>44922070
Kys intern, fuck off already.

>>44921986
y-yay

>>44922093
at least VSPO interns aren't hostile

>>44921846
The decision about collabing with homos only go one way, if you want to stop you have to just do it and not say anything

>>44922042
What exactly should she change about her schedule and content?

>>44922108
>Fauna literally has at least 3 exclusive clippers who contributed to her growth.
Fauna get less clips viewership than Bae, anon.

>>44922108
>Silently kill of baerys. There's a reason why NoeFlare and Pekomiko died, neither party wants to be an accesory of the other
Ame killed her ship and she became irrelevant, do you really want Bae to get rid of her only form of attention?

>>44922108
THEY DONT' FUCKING LIKE MINECRAFT
THEY DON'T LIKE BUILDING SHIT
LIKE I'M SICK OF ALL THESE "ADVENTURE" STREAMS
WHO THE FUCK CARES
WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU MEAN YOU WANT TO "LOOT A VILLAGE"? THERE'S NOTHING THERE BUT FUCKING BREAD. LIKE COME ON BUILD SOMETHING LASTING ON THE SERVER. GET SOME ATTENTION ON YOU. THIS "ADVENTURE" SHIT ONLY REALLY WORKS IF THERE WAS SOMETHING WORTH ADVENTURING FOR, WHICH WON'T GET PATCHED IN UNTIL NEXT WEEK THE EARLIEST
FUCKING HELL YES I'M SEETHING ABOUT IRYS' SHITTY ASS RESERVATION

KNEEL TO FAUNA!
>DON'T THINK, JUST DO IT!

>>44921860
Vtubing around this hour is so dead that it isn't even funny

>>44921988
If you just look at their subscriptions along you would think he was so unpopular. 5k off of 100k is not bad. If he plays normal games, that's not visual novels, he's pretty close to his other gen mates in ccv.

>>44922108
>Go full on Subaru route.
the only upside of being a zoomer is to have a true "first look" on every nintendo game with perms, the oji-sans are there just pander to them.

>>44920374

>>44922246

>>44921860
>>44922117
>literally zero fucking overlap from both Hololive and NijiEN
>still only 600 CCV
take the fucking hint already Omegatranny, people would rather watch nothing than your homoshits.

>>44922208
There were a lot of factors that put Ame in that spot, most of them self inflicted and out of spite

>>44922246
How did Fauna avoid the green curse?

kek
>Flayon has ZERO overlap by either Holos or Homos or even NijiEN and he can't beat 1k
What went so wrong?

>>44922108
>>Go full on Subaru route. She needs to study how the duck inclined to first army despite being a low to mid tier holo for 2/3rds of her career. She has no hope of becoming EN Pekora but being EN Subaru is a reachable goal.
This wouldn't work on an EN audience. The idea that EN can just copy JP and apply it to EN is fucking retarded.

>>44922108
I agree with this but it would only work if she did all of it INCLUDING killing the homo collabs
but she won't, EVER do that
reminder big Hololive audience is in it for CGDCT, idol content, GFE with few exceptions

Bae should play Dark Souls. no I'm not joking. Take it really seriously, try to learn how to play well, try to understand the story and autistic lore.
Nerds like it a lot when normies try to understand their interests with sincerity

>>44922246
>Western thot
At least post a good cosplay

>>44922117
Did divegrass beat him?

I don't care about Bae.

>>44922208
Ames ship partner was popular. Irys is barely above bae now and also stole all her paypigs

>>44922333
omegay

>>44922333
ZERO overlap!

>>44922350
>Bae
>paying attention to the shit she plays that isn't forecfully spoonfed down her throat
lol

>>44922213
IRyS just doesn't like Minecraft. She's probably just trying to get some viewers after some sub 5k streams. Probably why she's putting off doing SC reading for her birthday stream.

>>44922339
Have they tried?

>>44922376
Isn't that her problem? No one cares about Bae.

>>44922385
>and also stole all her paypigs
???

>>44922388
Oh no, all of Machina's potential viewers are watching, uh, "鷹宮リオン", doing, uh, whatever "眠れない人の墓場" is

>>44922416
Probably, Ive never even watched a single stream on her channel, and I watch all of Mumei's and Faunas streams

>>44922361
No, divegrass peaked at 507 during manstars vs skynet

>>44922376
What would it take for you to care?

>>44922388
Who are these people?

>>44922376
Fuck off nijitranny

>>44922132
yeah, but the audience will not notice for a long time and then they wouldn't trust you for even longer because they don't know if you actually stopped or are just lazy/busy/bored but will start again in the future
that's why you need to signal it clearly

>>44922416
No one gives a fuck about Fauna outside these threads but you would think otherwise with how much she's fucking forced here

>>44922354

Do we know if Kobo just massively outsells the other ID3 in merch, like Gura does Myth? SCs might not count that much there either

>>44922388
oh, sophia is on, i'll put her on in the background.

>>44922457
Baes sc are nonexistant now and a lot of her old paypigs now sc irys

>>44922303
Oh oh, this one is worse >>44886980
Even copy-pasted the text, lazy bastard

>>44922290
This. Bae doesn't even know what Friday the 13th or Freddy Kreuger is. She could literally pull a subaru by reacting to old anime or something. FUCK, just do a goddamn reverse meme review but with Gura instead of Vesper! I swear to god Bae, I can't believe you wasted your godlike design. It should be a criminal offense to be the runt of your gen while having a 2d avatar like that!

>>44922461
I think it would be fun to compare divegrass to some nijiEN numbers and the homos from time to time because I'm sure i have seen some of them even failing to clear that

>>44922481
Shut up and KNEEL!

>>44922108
Also drop her zoomerisms and annoying as fuck voice. loud isn't funny, yelling bruh every other word gets stale. Regardless, even if she did everything you said, she's just not an interesting/engaging streamer.

>>44922471
This only works if you're someone like say Kronii. Bae from the get go started lusting for cock so it's not like people will come back anyways on top of her filtering people with her voice and Ollieisms. It's just simply too late for Bae. She chose her route so now she has to stay in it.

>>44922496

>>44922339
fucking this. ENs can't incline even if they wanted to at this point, they lost their chance a long time ago.
JPs incline via big events, collabs and leeching from the more popular holos. gura is the only EN worth leeching from, but she doesn't stream and chumpedos don't even watch her collab streams on other channels.
they could try leeching from JPs but i'm not sure how increasing your JP fans is going to lead to a bigger EN fanbase.

>>44922481
Sounds like a problem with everyone else, /#/ having superior tastes is nothing new

>>44922388
audience base wise? yeah ZERO

>>44922481
I want more Fauna variety

>>44922606
Would it actually work for Kronii? She pretty much pissed away all the goodwill she ever had and the only ones still believing in her are delusional as fuck

>>44922354
She's Russian, but okay.

>>44922628
COUNCIL ISN'T PART OF HOLOSUMME-
>PARADE PARADE MUSIC STOPS!

>>44922606
I agree with you, nothing will change but it would have been a way that COULD work, no guarantees though even if she did all the things

>>44922593
https://youtu.be/X9vGNVJCTyM?t=7691
Does this not entertain you?

>>44922537
Surely you have proof of this

>>44922203
Pick one fucking time and stick to, preferably something that can be watched by Americans. If you really want to pander to Korea, make a dedicated timeslot that you stream at for them and do it once a week. Make it a point to have one stream a week that draws tourists, whether that's a solo big buff game like MC or a collab. Do not fucking play longform JRPGs, or if you must, dedicate them to one day a week where you can do a long stream instead of sprinkling them across your content so you train the algorithm to never push your streams because people keep ignoring them. Do more of the dance streams, she's clearly talented at it and doing it every week or every other, preferably in an archived fashion could be her WNF since right now Bae lacks signature content. Literally a bunch of holes that she could patch in her sinking ship of a channel that don't require her changing her stream persona which is a much more nebulous fix, even if I have opinions on that as well.

>>44922556
Bse had zero chemistry with gura. Just watch their collabs

>>44922203
For a long time her time slot was very schizophrenic. She should make an effort to stick to a slot very long term and do content that makes sense for that slot. Also not doing things like loading up hitman in overlap and right now it's too many chatting streams or garbage like Persona.

>>44922688
nta, but I don't think it would work for Kronii because she showed maliciousness with her reaction to the backlash and even to this day, while Bae is just stupid

>>44920171
6-17 win for nijisanji, hololive is dead

>>44922471
You are pretty fucking retarded because of a few reasons, but to just name one.

People fucking hate backstabbers, and Bae publicly announcing that she will now not collab with any homos anymore would definitely look like that

>>44921786
i'm pretty sure we're going to be the only team there with negative GD
we can't fucking score, we're going to get destroyed
hopefully we get some fun teams to trashtalk

>>44922108
I don't understand the killing of Baerys part, the ship is totally harmless and idolfags, cgdct enjoyers, and unicorns all enjoy lesbian ships. Plus, there's no ridiculous power imbalance like we've seen in some other pairings, nor does she get people spamming her chat begging her to interact with IRyS more. It seems totally benign.

>>44922471
NTA but it is doable. Subaru didn't announce stopping any collabs with Maimoto and it did take a while but she ultimately got more gachis. Probably because she made it a point to say that she wanted more Gachikoi fans plus the whole crying because she wanted people to see her as an "idol" too. Bae sure as hell ain't crying about being an idol but she could maybe hint about wanting more gachis?

>>44922312
They got the hint already. You're not going to be seeing another set of males.

>>44922908
I envy your optimism

>>44922849
The fuck you mean "backstabbers", she doesn't own them shit, at the end of the day it's her channel, if she want to cut tie with them (which she won't do), no one should have anything to say. It's not her job to collab to try to save their reclining ass, let the doomed be doomed

>>44922556
EN.Audience.Doesn't.Care.That.Much

Dumb normalfag bitches reacting to geek shit describes every single fucking female streamer ever in the west.

I can only see Subaru like buffs(propotional for EN, ofc) if she played real cult classic shit that Cover can't get perms for, like VTM:Bloodlines or Heroes3.

>>44922729
Not sure what your timestamp is supposed to show after watching for a minute, but in the end I'm just not her target audience, and that's OK.

>>44922908
Not for another month at least, minimum!

>>44922908
>No more males
KEK

>>44922874
>she could maybe hint about wanting more gachis
nta but then we hit the other wall in Bae's streaming where she thinks and says that fanservice is cringe every time she does it and makes sure that you as the audience is aware that it's cringe

>>44922849
who is she backstabbing? you just have to explain that you want to change your content and think that a lot of potential viewers does not like that content
sure it might look like you are numberfagging but I don't expect her to say "fuck the homos, never collabing with them again because they kill my numbers" or "I will pander to unicorns from now on"
maybe some culture warriors might get offended, but they don't matter anyway

>>44922954
>VTM:Bloodlines
I wish they would, Fauna's been wantingi to play it for a year now

>>44922908
See you in July

>>44921846
You do know that Kiara had multiple 'male' collabs before tempus debut when 'unicorns' weren't a problem for EN and it only became a problem after Tempus debut because everyone thought EN would end up like NijiEN.
Even Mumei's collab with starsJP did not create any shitposts or drama.
The problem is not 'Incels' but 'fear of nijification'

>>44922831
I don't know what's Kronii's problem is. Her constant break, shit game choice, and attitude filters me back when the homos weren't even a thing. Yet, her fans stuck with her though all that and then she shit on them for disliking it. How she still has such a draw is amazing to me.

ENshit

>>44922908
Yagoo is obsessed with making male gens. They could get 10 views and he would still make more

Bae's problem is that she's boring. That's it. She literally tried everything and works very hard but whenever I tune in into one of her streams, especially her zatsu, I just can't stay interested. I think she just lacks wit and charisma. That and she's a huge fucking normalfag, you can tell that people like Gura and Fauna grew on the internet and are quite accostumed to that kind of humor, Bae idk her entire thing is being loud and yell OMG BRUH.
It's also noticeable during collabs, she has a couple good ones here and there but she often completely fades away in large ones and seems to lack good chemistry with anyone.

>>44922108
>Go full on Subaru route.
nigga the en audience FUCKING HATES JRPGS

>>44920068
is it just me or did they ban Vietnam?

>>44922705
Pretty sure that all of hololive are part of HoloSummer from now on.

>>44922849
>backstabbers
What about this then?

>>44922203
Just copy Asakoyo and do a morning news show 3+ times a week showcasing clips/news of what the JPs have been doing the past few days.
she's one of the few ENs that can actually pull this off since she's decent enough at Japanese.

>>44923017
Kiara is a bad example since she presents herself as "lesbian". Male collabs have no effect on her since her fans don't see them as a threat

>>44922849
>publically announce
Or she can just not. Tell them not to show up in her chat and tell them not to show up to her totsus.

>>44922941
Of course she doesn't.
The point is that so far she has done multiple male collabs, has done multiple star concert watchalongs including the fucking debut watchalong on the main channel.
Suddenly making a big announcement that you're going to drop that just looks weird as fuck.
Just stop doing collabs if you don't want to.

>>44922908
If they didn't get the hint the first time, what makes you think they care about CCV at this point? They don't compare them to the girls and they probably don't even compare them to JP stars, they just see if theh can hit a benchmark to determine success or failure. Tempoop probably just barely met their expectations seeing how they announced another round of auditions for Tempuke. Also could be why EN3 is taking so long because they saw Council not even get close to Myth's benchmark.

>>44922908
>They got the hint already
They have failed to get the hint ever since the first generation of homos on the JP side

>>44922849
>backstabbers
a woman or tranny wrote this post

>>44922758
>Pick one fucking time and stick to, preferably something that can be watched by Americans.
Why do so many chuubas struggle with this?

>>44920550
Why is Shion so sexy. She makes me lust super hard.

>>44923107
Is it just going be talking about jp, as en doesn't do anything of interest.

>>44923051
Fauna is boring. That doesn't mean shit.

>>44922729
I'm confused, what's wrong with that?

>>44923093
So painfully mishandled, and all for what? A handful of reasonably popular collabs that didn't incline or save the men at all

>>44923017
>Kiara had multiple 'male' collabs
Which were sponsored streams. Nobody care that she participated in a sponsored tournament, especially since she procedeed to flirt with the female VA during the entierty of it.

>>44923184
Yes, just JP stuff. Nothing ever happens in EN land so there's no need to showcase anything there.

>>44923185

>>44923017
Nobody has ever given a fuck about sponsored streams sister

>>44923029
Gozaru likes ENs tho

>>44922939
When you have all of OG Tempus actively causing headaches for management and the collective plummeting numbers of the homos there isn't really much incentive. They're just barely over the worst of NijiEN and they haven't shown an ability to increase their box size.

>>44923144
>>44923158
as I said before, the audience will not trust you if you just stop, they may think it's just a break, or you can't find interesting collabs with them for now or they even stopped caring altogether about you and don't even notice you stopped
with a statement you can obviously get attention and the viewer can take your word for it (if they will is another matter)

Enna's main advantage in her numbers was streaming without overlaps. Once the overlaps started, her numbers were cut in half. She started struggling to break 3k, then recently she started struggling to break 2k. Her numbers now are being inflated by raids and collabs.

Her collab with Mysta was over 1 year in the making and should have been a huge hyped event. It only got her 3.2k viewers. Her solo-gaming streams have been coasting at 1.6k, and she inevitably gets raided multiple times which boosts her peak artificially.

In general she's looking really weak.
when the overlaps slashed her numbers, she tried streaming later to avoid them. But the result was that she streamed too late for the chinese audience to watch. So she switched back to China-hours hoping for the best. But she was unable to reach her previous level of viewership.

>>44923107
...since she's Australian won't it just clash with the aforementioned Asakoyo? Koyo already put English translation albeit broken into her segments to pander for EOPs, are there even demands for another similar stuff to it?

>>44923017
>You do know that Kiara had multiple 'male' collabs before tempus debut
I can think of like 4 things you could possibly mean and they are entirely different
>K-interview with Mori shortly after debut
>Sponsored Shadowverse tournament
>Tamaki collab
>Stuff at conventions

>>44923051
One of her biggest weaknesses for sure is that she over relies on chat to carry the conversation rather than supporting it on her own, this becomes super apparent in her zatsus for example considering her smaller viewerbase where you can see the stream slowly morph into one or two of her regular members completely directing the conversation for her which just isn't what I tune in to see

Did vesper proof yet that eu is a viable timeslot? Wasn't that one of his goals?

>>44923319
You could always set up some burner account to ask yourself and have an Irys moment

>>44923325
morning show for amerifat timezones.

>>44922870
Because she needs to establish herself first. This was the same issue that plagued Noeflare and even Crossick. People are there for the ship but not for you. It's the same principle that happens with homobeggers. 18k collab stream and then back to sub 1k-2k content. The worst part is that, as Miko herself mentioned, shipfags are fucking annoying. They'll spam your content with shipfaggotry but they don't give a shit about anything else. Bae needs to establish her floor but she can't do that if IRyS is their because BaeRySfags will always default to shipfaggotry.

>>44923349
It's even worse when those particular people are an actual fucking blight and sometimes feels like they're bordering on antis with how they don't know how to lay off their "playful ribbing". And then she reacts to them and they do it more.

>>44922664
I need Fauna 4 seasons theme.

>>44923345
Are people actually serious about the tamaki collab?

>>44923345
>Tamaki collab

>>44923324
Is that a raid+ a Z i see?

>>44923285
They are still Clover's most popular male gen. So, I expect them to shove them into more stuff in hopes of them inclining. They have half of holoen willing to give them the time of day.

>>44923413
Anon in charge of understanding jokes

>>44923047
>>44923167
>>44923170
Holostars EN was for a different market than JP. They saw Luxiem's success and felt it was worth the risk. At best they succeeded in keeping Niji from having full mindchairs in that market and discovering that the numbers just aren't there for EN either. You're not getting more males unless they can turn that into something more positive, especially with IPO on the way.

>>44923285
They literally opened audition as soon as homo2 debuted, they 100% already have homo3 in the pipeline, probably in their discord already

>>44923358
He decided to shoot himself in the collective head of tempus instead

Anybody in Hololive can incline regardless of personality and voice by just being really good at a particular game.
This is one of Kiara's and Bae's biggest debuffs. They are not good at any of the games they play and it gets infuriating to most viewers. This is also the reason why Kaela and Fauna inclined despite their milktoast personality and weird voice/accent. Also recent Azki incline because of geoguesser. Another good example for this is Aqua.

They just need to find a decent game that they autistically grind and become expert at.

>>44923413
Only if you're a twitterfag or a redditor who thinks their faggotry is new and hasn't be posted before

>>44923384
There’s also the fact that shipfag get uppity when they get lovey dovey with other girls, happened before and I think it was NoeFure bringing it up?

>>44923345
>Tamaki collab

>>44923319
NTA, but saying things is pointless and just invites drama. It's better to just make changes with your content, don't look back, and don't get baited.

>>44923349
Yeah, I wonder how many of the people currently discussing Bae tried unironically watching her, especially her zatsu. Do you find it interesting? Would you rather watch another Holomeme instead? Here is your answer. I like Bae, she's hella cute but that shit is extremely hard to change.

>>44923534
I remember that the NTR spamming whenever they collabed with someone else was the main reason Noefure and Takamori "killed" their ships

>>44923404
Yeah that's the one thing I wish she'd lay off of, constantly reacting to the retards spamming shit like "I bet x character has a higher IQ than Bae LOL" or "are you getting le fat LMAO?" as their every second message just for the epic EXCUSE ME reaction gets old really quick and just encourages more of their awful "banter" spam for attention

>>44923492
Bae needs to do an Apex sololive like aqua

>>44923282
yes, my EN dick

>>44923324
>3 raids
>Barely scrap 3k
Jesus, this is the savior of NijiEN female ?

>>44923462
I'm sure they'll continue to promote them to try and reverse the bleeding trend, but as things stand the box they have just can't support more of them and it seems to have shrunk. All the schizosisters have probably contributed to that happening. Not getting more males any time soon though.

I never noticed this but since when “Saving Private Hakos” is a popular discussion here? You guys always repeat the same few arguments anyway

>>44923358

>>44923564
I think the short term drama would not matter outside of reddit or some catalog bait
and your approach would probably also work, but it would be a very long and slow incline over many months or even years (not taking into account the growth or recline of the greater Vtubing sphere)

>>44922333
75BILLION KNEEL

>>44923716
Seeing someone go from 8k to 6k to 5k to 4k to 3k to now lately 2k has been fucking depressing.

>>44923492
Kiara's perfectly decent at JRPGs and even suprisingly good at Fire Emblem (at least Engage).
Her issue is very much that very few EN watchers care about JRPG. I remember her actually doing pretty well in Elden Ring but she still quit after her second or third stream because she couldn't the soulsfags in her chat.
Luckily she switched back to Yakuza 0 which was an amazing series

>>44923324
Luxiem has been suffering so anyone leeching from that is getting hit with them. There wasn't much she could have done about it. It was unavoidable.

>>44921657
I watched Tempus 2s full collabs (Minus Vesper since he was going Menhera in Japan at the time) and it is most likely that he is 4th-8th wheel at any given time during full STARS collabs. You don't have to take my word for it but he try harded so much during the MP ripoff collab Tempus had after T2s month debut, a lot of dead silence when he tried to be funny etc. I would say he needs to find his niche before going off in STARS collabs desu.

>>44923055
So play some fucking classic Western games. The point isn't that Subaru plays JRPGs, it's that she plays classic games that are beloved by the 25-35 audience who get to enjoy playing the game for the first time again through her because she knows fucking nothing.

>>44923492
Did mori and Fauna get significantly higher ccv during her jump King arc and getting over it speedrun arc respectively?

>>44923474
Outside of the direct call for ID girls it's all open auditions. Doesn't mean you're getting them. Just like how there is no EN 3 yet.

>>44923761
Did people joined his stream ? Why is this mf worming right now

>>44923769
wdym? she's now closer to her oshi more than ever number wise

>>44923716
Bae is /#/'s darling saviorfag project

>>44923716
seeing her waste her potential hurts, especially since she is extremely cute and wholesome, she is never malicious but just too young and idealistic

How do we beat Nijisanji now that Holofes is a confirmed flop?

>>44923882
burgers are finishing their sunday shift

>>44923324
>Enna is reclining into bargain bin irrelevancy
This is what happens when you have a fanbase that overinflates your ego with their low quality bots. At this point I kind of feel sorry for her. Where does one go from here? There's no saving them unfortunately.

>>44923868
Are you that guy who thinks a EN Baldur's Gate stream would be anything but the single worst viewed game stream of all time?

>>44923769
this sounds like a very romanticized idea of bae's past numberwise.

>>44923963
Fauna...

>>44923873
Doesn't looks like all open audition to me
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4TxclO0X5M

>>44923882
Probably the sisters trying to get him to 1k. It used to happen with Tempiss as well, everytime we would post them being 3 view and the sisters would join until their 4 view then leave.

>>44923716
Why? Because I’m beyond the point of thinking she and IRyS will magically break up. Bae is bringing IRyS down at this point

>>44923996
It ain't gonna be pretty if she actually goes through with playing 3 past the first stream

Zaion status?

>>44923754
In the end I think it's mostly herself keeping her back rather than the homos. I think if she was really serious about improving she could take some hints from Koyori and try to be more present in 2 major time slots in the day. Also make better content choices. Fuck RPGs and fuck zoomer chatting topics. If she had a larger number of EN peers she could have done a news program for the JPs that covered EN, but it's probably too late at this point and they're just not active enough.

>>44923716
The numberfag thread likes to talk about how they would improve #s, and Bae is a perfect case study on someone who does almost everything wrong but isn't unsalvageable because she does seem to want to put in effort and AZKi's massive incline shows that it's never impossible with the Holo brand to back you up.

>>44923716
Eh not really, I remember there used to be "Saving Private Koyo" discussion /here/ back when she just debuted and spamming streams without getting satisfying numbers (well she's now called a leech by some), kind of similar to what Kaela's been experiencing at least until Holocure and Rust. People just like to see hard work paying off, and Bae certainly has her head in the right direction by constantly asking for feedbacks but boy aren't she bad at coming up with the solutions.

>>44923912
No we're more of a disappointed brother or father. It's not about saving, it's about her not shaming herself.

>>44924070
Preparing to release the logs.

>>44923345
A lot of people point to that full Myth collab where they watched other's reactions to them, holostars included. It was all the way back in 2020.

>>44924000
>No closing date
It's open audition.

IRyS needs to STOP FUCKING MOVING TIMESLOTS WHY ISN'T SHE ON 8PM EST WHEN SHE WAS FUCKING THERE FOR ALMOST 3-4 MONTHS STRAIGHT

>>44923577
I did watch her a bit when she started her Persona playthrough. Also started checking out her other content, and I agree with most of the criticisms here. She lacks an attention grabbing personality or at least the charisma to pull off that type of personality hence why I assume she toned it down a bunch in comparison to her earlier days. She lacks interesting stories to tell in her Zatsu's probably because she hasn't really experienced real life yet like Marine. But she doesn't present anything different as an alternative like what Gura and Mumei would. I don't want to sound too negative since I see that she does work hard and is trying to change her content for the better... but she just ain't it. She's basically what it would look like if any of the NijiENgirls were put into Hololive. Better numbers than what they currently have in Niji but ultimately overshadowed due to lack of relevant skill for streaming and creating content.

>>44924070
BELOVED /HERE/
gib leaks now

>>44923868
Ok name 10 buff classic games Cover can get perms for.
I'll cross one out for you: Bioshock was not a buff game.

>>44923871
Mori's was conflated with her enthusiasm arc, the Connor drama forma de la Schrodinger's apology, and general other bullshit so getting meaningful data from her is impossible. You'd be better off look at GOI for Fauna as well.

>>44923685
Sorry but she's into cute girls. Even if she wasn't she's too stupid to understand sex.

>>44924190
Surely you know which collab that was because I don't remember tha happening and I watched since ~October 2020

>>44923868
It's not like Subaru's nostalgic JRPG streams even do good numbers outside of her Persona streams

>>44924307
It was a con panel, nobody remembers it because it wasn't a big deal at all.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UdE40a4N-aU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UdE40a4N-aU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UdE40a4N-aU
MOST TRUSTED HOLO NEWS

>>44924307
>>44924190
From a convention. AX I think, that blunder of a fucking online con

>>44924038
>Bae has higher song views
>Bae has the higher valentines route
IRyS is clearly the one dragging her down here.

>>44923871
Fauna's GOI stuff was mostly during her pre-incline days. And many of her speedruns were hidden behind SC readings or zatsu streams. Even her sub-5 pb was actually in a FNF stream.

>pekora's mc vod has been up ~6 hours
>has reached 501608 views
>hasn't increased 1 view in about 1 hour and 30 minutes
Neal... Come on now man.

>>44924276
I can be her Tamaki and I'll gently teach her with my body

>>44924226
Gothic
Gothic 2
VtM: Bloodlines

>>44924195
>IRyS regular time was 8pm est
Anon I’m CST and I enjoyed it more when she would stream from 10pm to 2/3am. That’s her “normal” time zone for me

>>44924307
this was that botched convention panel that had the politics shit surrounding it and IIRC the panel host completely ignored Ame and had to be called out

>>44924368
>convention
Surely you read the point
>Stuff at conventions

>>44924195
10 EST was her original slot though

>>44924446
Dude no long form story game is every going to be a buff

>>44924476
>IIRC the panel host completely ignored Ame and had to be called out
This was another convention

>>44924419
>Even her sub-5 pb was actually in a FNF stream.
Actually fucking ridiculous, what the fuck is this.

>>44924459
That's not the point. Take a timeslot and stick to it. Stop jumping around, especially when you have no fucking schedule.

>>44924399
Bae has Gen buff, every always “and IRyS” her even the fucking staff

>>44924436
Sorry but Tamaki is married to me

Bae lacks too many traits to be a good streamer.
>good at games
no
>good at talking
no
>comedian
no
>singing
average

Bae only has a good avatar. It’s really hard to save her, the hardest in Council. Even the Jpniki know right away that Bae is very boring when they watch the SubaPolice show.

>>44924446
>RPGS
wow enjoy your buffed part 1 and then hell, lmao
Especially shit like Gothic

>>44924506
No but those are the games I want to see them(particularly Kiara) play.
Shame that all of them are probably in License hell

>>44924070
Her discord looks fun

>>44924518
Nah, that was the same one, might have been the second day though

>>44924226
>Valve games
>Mechwarrior 4
>Ace Combat 3
>Armored Core
>Duke Nukem 3D

>>44924581
But she can improve at most of those things, and the best part of hololive is the idol journey.

>>44924654
The only one of those that can be a buff game is Armored Core, if it's played close to AC6's release.

>>44924226
Mario.
Just take your pick.

>>44924654
Not one buff game lmao
Ina already played HL, wasn't particularly amazing. Anya (i think) played Black mesa.

>>44924429
aqua's has been stuck at 527k for hours too
verification probably sees them as sus because of the pov jumping

>>44924226
Buff game for who, Jp or En? Because they aren't guaranteed to overlap.

>>44924668
But when does her journey begin? It's been almost 600 days since Council debuted, and she hasn't improved in any of the listed point

>>44924524
That hasn’t even been her “regular” time zone. When 12am est 70% vs 30% 7pm est LMAO. We have known she has a bigger SEA audience the whole time

>>44924654
Look at much as I love Ace combat not even Gura could make it a buff.
Exhibit A: Her Project Wingman stream (Is basically an AC fangame)

>>44924581
Fauna lacks too many traits to be a good streamer.
>Good at games
No
>good at talking
No
>comedian
No
>Singing
Worst singer in the entire company
>no
>>good at talking
>no
>>comedian
>no
>>singing
>average

>>44924668
NTA and I agree with you but she has to buy into it first. Saying that you'd LIKE to be an idol is completely different from saying you WANT or NEED to be an idol. Most of HoloJP and Gura WANT and NEED to be an idol. It's the reason why idol reps are a thing and why the fanbase, especially for HoloJP are very loyal even when the girls are out for extended periods. Because they know that the girls are working towards something that they WANT.

>>44923324
What happened to her audience? Who was her audience?

>>44924227
sexo

I finally took the time to provide sources for most of the Nijiyabs I'm aware of.
https://rentry.org/exx63

>>44924952
>t.nijinig

>>44924770
The platformer, single player ones? Really?

>>44924952
She's better than shitrys at all of these, irystocrap

>>44924952
How much do the giftcords pay? If imma shitpost i might as well get paid too

>>44925069
No one even mentioned IRyS you retarded nigger. Fauna is trash and has no redeeming qualities. Her chat moves painfully slow and I bet she's botted.

>>44925069
You'll need better bait, Nijisis.

>>44924654
The only buff game among those would be Portal, maybe HL would be a small buff too but only the first part

>>44924226
Halo 1 through Reach is 5 games
Bastion is an easy 2 parter at most
Alice: Madness Returns did pretty well on Kiara's debuff of a channel
Destroy All Humans just got a remake recently
Even GTA and GTA clones like Just Cause and Sleeping Dogs would do well for her.

Bae and Kiara use/abuse the JP buff more than the rest and they are the absolute runts of EN. There is no helping them

>>44924958
>Gura
come on now

How the fuck has IRyS not been in an off collab stream with Myth yet (not counting chadcast)? Or did I miss one?

>>44924961
>Who was her audience?
Chinks

>>44923716
90% of how to fix [insert EN here] discussions are pretty much solved equations. heres what girl is doing wrong, heres what she could do to change, she won't change it, you can only loop that so many times
with bae theres some room for discussion

>>44925138
Stop samefagging.

>>44924782
Armored core could be viable when they ride the hype for the upcoming game

>>44925214
mario party with ina and ame + Bae. Thats it though.

>>44925049
Yes, I'm serious. Literally no one who plays games doesn't know about Mario, and people will tune in even if for the nostalgia factor alone.
And great things about Mario is that unless you're playing Odyssey, if you get bored you can just drop it for some time and pick it up again later.

>>44925039
BASED

>>44924961
i imagine a part got filtered by her attaching herself to Kyo
seeing someone you like become a sidekick isn't pleasant

Numbers?

>>44925039
>Finana discord cancelled their b-day billboard project because she told them they're unoriginal and copying hololive
Is there an actual timestamp for this because holy fuck you can't be real

>>44925178
>Alice Madness Returns
Alice did well for the first stream, with the second being only slightly elevated.
>Bastion
Part 2 and 3 were literally ~5k streams for Ina, in 2021
>GTA
GTA is good but so far only Kiara has ever finished one in EN

>>44925214
IRyS is autistic/lazy about collabing with people she likes much less people she isn't that close with.

Honestly I think Bae is fine. She's hard working and great at connecting with other people by virtue of not being terminally autistic. She's kinda like Council Kiara, even if she doesn't get amazing numbers she still keeps the branch afloat in streaming hours and by forcing some of the other girls to stream.
Wish she would stop worrying so much about her numbers and accept her role as a supporter for the branch, maybe even try to tard wrangle her genmates by organizing more collabs. I'd rather have someone like Bae than a Kronii.

>>44925138
I watch Fauna and I only chat in member streams.

>>44925385

>>44920278
Gura, Kiara, Mori is Campfire Trinity from the Christmas VRChat collab where they were sitting around the fire having a conversation we’ll never know the details of.

>>44925517
>No Asamio funnel to Fauna today
No...

>>44924226
>Total wars: Warhammer III
need some manly game

>>44925411
>>29383516

>>44925411
yeah, I was there at that time
she does not exactly say that but more like
"please do another thing, this one is already done by next door company"

i wanna see HoloEN try to play the game korone went on a 20hr bender trying to beat.

>>44920708
It was a meme on Instagram/Tiktok

>>44925039

>>44925632
>>44925584
I asked for a timestamp man, not a link to some other post and some hearsay.

>>44925715
>asking for timestamp for something that happened on discord
Retard.

Games don't make you incline unless you are really good at them like Selen. If you want to incline and don't gave teh gamur skillz you do interesting content. Handcams, unpackings, MRE reviews, astronomy streams, lore stuff.

Remember when Rosemi was struggling around 1k ccv? She inclined hard due to rare interesting content and keeps those numbers now.

This is literally the only thing you can do if you are struggling with numbers no game series is going to save you. Becoming a collab accessory won't save you either.

>>44925715
sigh...

>>44925651
I don't think any EN would walk out away of it unscathed, anyone who'd try I can see their numbers tanking, the western market would never stay that long for a kusoge

>>44922108
You people are legitimately so fucking retarded. Fauna grew because of clippers? Are you for real?

>>44925768
>because she told them they're unoriginal and copying hololive
I don't see a message from her at all.

EN3 won't live up to expectations at all if it has someone who I think it is...these leaks are embarrassing.

How long until Scarle get striked by youtube ?

>government bailed out svb
Roru rumao
Investing in US is totally risk free. You can never be poor again once you are rich.

>there's the retard vagueposting again
Oh hey, it's that time of the day again.

>>44925804
pft

>>44925978
puta

>>44925916
Anon, don't be a faggot and share them. Or you want to be know as a faggot baiter?

>>44925978
Scraping the bottom of the barrel

>>44926028
why tf are you giving a vagueposter some attention?

>>44925978
What the fuck is her problem
>subscribed
>actually watched
disgusting

>>44925978
Until someone reports her. Which means never because honestly, does anyone AT ALL give a fuck?

>>44926015
Entire EN scene is slumping hard. HoloEN collabs can barely reach 10k these days. She's still doing far better than she used to.

>>44925978
>subscribed

>>44925498
In streaming you make choices to at least bring in more people than you are losing or you fizzle into irrelevancy.

What's gold today? Any big events?

>>44926060
Haven't been here for a while so I did not know if something happened.

>>44926071
I just did.