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What is /asp/?
/asp/ is a thread for vtubers to give and receive advice related to vtubing.

>Can I self post?
Self posting is allowed as long as it's for asking for feedback or starting out, there are other threads for self promotion.

>Should I stream on Twitch or YouTube?
Most people would recommend against streaming on YouTube if you don't have an established subscriber base from making videos.

>Is there an audience for X?
Would you watch someone do X?
Is someone already doing X?

Open company auditions:
Hololive (Open indefinitely): https://audition.hololivepro.com/en

Useful links:
General: https://pastebin.com/AJLkFrGK
OpSec: https://mauthedoog.medium.com/21-privacy-tips-vtubers-need-to-know-ce93082cd166
Twitter growth: https://controlc.com/9eba2fbc
What to avoid: https://pastebin.com/vbp6qEdt
Twitter branding: https://pastebin.com/jVERSLqG
Parasocial guide: https://pastebin.com/zmpCResg

Stay grounded, stay hopeful.

Other threads:
Western Vtubers: >>>/vt//wvt/

Previous thread: >>44857225

>> No.44911582
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reminder that vtubing is a female hobby!! men should go die in wars!!

>> No.44911801

>>44911582
so are you a luxiemsister or more of a holostargazer?

>> No.44911833

>>44911385
Just found this guy, thoughts?
https://www.youtube.com/@kankurokingch/videos

>> No.44911900

>>44911582
You should marry me so you can game while I bring home the bacon, wouldn't that be funny? Ahahah...

>> No.44911974

>>44911582
Degenerate hobby. Not wrong on the second point.

>> No.44912026

>>44911582
get back to me when a single woman creates a vtubing tool

>> No.44912077

>>44911385
I think I'll just copy the list every thread for a bit.

Vtubers/PNGtubers
https://www.twitch.tv/digbycat
https://www.twitch.tv/olgaokami
https://www.twitch.tv/berylch
https://www.twitch.tv/lcolonq
https://www.twitch.tv/tallychovy
https://www.twitch.tv/denpafish
https://www.twitch.tv/runoxi
https://www.twitch.tv/fuwacoco
https://www.twitch.tv/chaosfoundry
https://www.youtube.com/@kankurokingch/
https://www.youtube.com/@fuzakerunah/

Not a vtuber... yet.
https://www.twitch.tv/seltzerontherocks

Nightmare fuel
https://www.twitch.tv/herahera_chan

>> No.44912135

>>44912077
based
don't forget to like and subscribe to (me)

>> No.44912165

>>44912077
you forgot one
https://www.twitch.tv/kuromaruoniisan

>> No.44912206

>>44912077 (me)
>>44912165
ffs i forgot to add the politics guy from the prev thread. noticed literally right after posting.

>> No.44912298

>>44911833
That's not me!!!

>> No.44912395

>>44912298
New IP... Hmmmm.

>> No.44912419

>>44912206
>politics guy
only my YT is political bcs lefties make good reaction material. The twitch is core tryhard gaming and assorted advice about touching grass

>> No.44912421

>>44912077
Is there a reason people keep putting the cat first?

>> No.44912518

>>44912421
Everyone loves cats

>> No.44912529

>>44912421
Well, the reason why I'm putting the cat first is because I click "copy text" and can't be fucked changing the order.

>> No.44912548

>>44912421
Relative order of appearance? He posted his link when nobody else had the guts to do it.

>> No.44912657

>>44912421
Are you stupid enough to think they're manually writing out the list every time lmao

>> No.44912681

>>44912395
Phone posting

>> No.44912748

>>44912657
You see, I force the pixies in my keyboard to type out the list every time when I press CTRL + V. Sometimes they change the order when I don't feed them enough.

>> No.44912826

Been streaming for a month now! gimme your harsh criticism please. I want to know what i should work on.
twitch.tv/vampirstation

>> No.44912864

>>44912077
I believe the rrat Kankuro started the self posting but isnt doing it anymore.
He literally forced a meme that the thread is following now.

>> No.44912925

>>44912826
You will never be Kankuro

>> No.44912950

>>44912826
I love starting soon screen, lol

>> No.44913047

>>44912826
First time I've seen someone move from being talked about in /wvt/ to self-posting here...

>> No.44913098

>>44912864
KK here, that is correct.
Honestly I find it cute, I hope no one goes schizo over it here!

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>>44912826
Look into adding a background music track via OBS, look for something chill off youtube.
Add it as a local audio source with these settings and then just adjust the volume so that it doesn't overpower your mic.

>> No.44913189

>>44913098
Another new IP...

>> No.44913190 [DELETED] 

>browse here today
>look through links of these aspiring vtubers
>see denpafish
>"wow they look cool"
>see that they're from /ic/

what a small world damn. good art tho

>> No.44913226

>>44912864
>>44912421
Checking the archive, the earliest Twitch link from this group I can find is from Lcolon_____ in late January. Digby is more active here though, and also has main character energy.

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>>44913226
>main character energy

>> No.44913384

>>44913047
/wvt/ has been pretty shit since the trash thread imploded and all the schizos moved there.
Sometimes it's bearable.

>> No.44913473

>>44913384
ngl I read /wvt/ purely for the schizo. It's some good entertainment as someone that doesn't watch whoever they're talking about most of the time.

>> No.44913717

>>44911385
Should I even post my twitch account here if I plan on going corpo and dont wanna be an indie?

>> No.44913730

>>44912864
Memes are like farts, if you force one too hard, shit will come out

>> No.44913733

>>44912026
the moid is triggered kek

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>>44913190
Man it's been a while since I stepped foot there, I have a soft spot for it still but the constant schizo posting and depressing posts made me step away. I miss when it was a more productive environment though I guess it was never super positive..
I've been neglecting my art reps for other pursuits recently but I'll get back on the grind soon! I swear!

>> No.44914032

>>44913741
>the constant schizo posting and depressing posts made me step away
Boy did you make a decision

>> No.44914074

>>44913741
>"constant schizo posting and depressing posts made me step away"
>comes to /vt/

>> No.44914090

>>44914032
I've lurked around here long enough to get a feel and compared to art communities in general /vt/ is like a safe haven

>> No.44914158

>>44913717
multiple people have, you're fine

>> No.44914237

>>44913047
she was here first like a year ago if I recall correctly and then moved to wvt

>> No.44914278

>>44914074
/vt/ is pretty nice compared to the other cesspits I frequent like /o/, /g/ and /trash/

>> No.44914322

>>44913717
You're not going corpo anon. Post it anyway.

>> No.44914349

>>44913047
I hope it doesn't become a trend because I don't need to hear about who's fucking who and if the rat has found a new boyfriend yet. They should be trying to move to /lig/ instead, not /asp/.

>> No.44914356

>>44912026
>biting the fembait
nigger what the fuck are you doing

>> No.44914420

>>44914322
Either I go corpo or I dont become a vtuber
I really dont wanna be an indie, but I wanna gain experience in streaming and talking so that I have skills the corpos might like.

>> No.44914511

>>44914420
Its been said many times and bears repeating. If you can't handle being an indie you'll never make it as a corpo.

You're also never getting picked up by a corpo without establishing as an indie. So if your mindset is "I'm going to immediately catapult past being indie into being corpo" save your money and time. You're absolutely not going to make it.

>> No.44914550

>>44914278
YOU CAN SPOILER WITHIN A SPOILER?

>> No.44914578

>>44914550
look at this sick ass nesting

>> No.44914670

>>44914511
You're assuming I don't have a following on Content Creation already

>> No.44914714

>>44914550
You can layer up to two spoiler tags

>> No.44914729

>>44914670
How'd your audition go anon?

>> No.44914795

>>44914729
More views than most here (which is 0)

>> No.44914860

>>44914420
Why do you want to be a vtuber but only a corpo one? For real, it doesn't make sense. Do you only care about numbers?

>> No.44914912

>>44914860
They're one of those "If I go corpo I get an automatic audience" types.

>> No.44914956

>>44914860
well there is one answer to this question that everyone is thinking but won't admit

>> No.44914959

>>44914912
Figured. Corpo doesn't always guarantee numbers anyway. And if you are motivated by numbers then vtubing might not be the best choice.

>> No.44914969

>>44914860
Why would I wanna get a job instead of doing a hobby? I dunno.

>> No.44914979

How can someone be the kindest person, the most selfless person I know, but still be a shitty person? So nice and yet so toxic... bleh.

>> No.44915029

>>44914420
depends on what corpos you're targeting.
You could slide into VShojo if you have high quality thirst-bait. Japanese agencies require you to be multi-talented (speak well, sing, dance, VA experience) which you obviously don't have if you know how to post on boards

>> No.44915036

>>44914912
>>44914959
Good thing I dont actually care about numbers.
I could be Flayon or Aster streaming as a 3view and be happy.

>> No.44915092

>>44914969
It's still a job, anon...

>>44915036
Do you just want to leave your name on the vtubing hall of fame?

>> No.44915096

>>44915029
>which you obviously don't have if you know how to post on boards
B-B-B-BUT LEX!

>> No.44915103

>>44914795
bold of your no-skill-having casual ass to assume that

>> No.44915108

>>44915029
Bold of you to assume you're talking to the demographic that Vshojo hires.

>> No.44915169

>>44915103
But anon he claims to have a "following on Content Creation"

kek

>> No.44915198

>>44915103
It's the truth, unless you count those smaller corpos no one gives a fuck about.

>> No.44915276

Why everyone gets so offended over someone wanting to skip the indie part and go right into corpo?
"No you have to suffer streaming several hours a week to no one like the rest of us"

>> No.44915344

>>44915276
I don't think anyone is getting offended at the idea, I think they're just getting offended by how dumb you sound.

If you're already an established content creator, I say you should just go for it?

>> No.44915373

>>44915276
>offended

>> No.44915442

>>44915344
>>44915373
Sorry I offended you guys.

>> No.44915477

>>44915276
They sound like a toolbox. Also, your quote is something literally nobody said and illustrates how bad your understanding of the market is. You have literally no idea how corporate structure works and how it differs from operating as an indie other than the hope of having a manager to hold your dick for you.

>> No.44915499

>>44914969
I dont think there are many corpos that will hire people without any streaming experience. Though im sure if you were a big enough flesh streamer there wouldnt be a problem. But the point is not many corpos would take the risk on someone who has not been shown to be reliable with streaming schedules and stuff. Being able to point to an account and say "I streamed 3 times a week on this account for an entire year" is an actual big deal to manager types that will be interviewing you.

Only shit tier corpos would hire somebody with no history in streaming these days.

>> No.44915510

>>44915092
Its still a job yes, but a real job. I just want a job.

>> No.44915570

>>44915477
I hope your 2 people stream goes well! xoxo

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>>44915169

>> No.44915630
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>>44915499
Well Cover did initially.
Hell they hired people who literally didn't know what they'd applied for

>> No.44915640

>>44915570
>I have no idea how to respond so I'll just imagine I'm bigtiming you.
kek

>> No.44915674

>>44915640
Hope your 1 fan has fun xoxo

>> No.44915726

>>44915630
Cover still tries to be a traditional idol corporation. In Japan anyway.

>> No.44915754

>>44915510
I would recommend finding a more stable source of income with better employment prospects.

Like, unironically, not to kill your dreams or anything, but you still need a job first.

>> No.44915779

>>44915276
the only way to skip the indie phase is to be headhunted as "tarento" like the core Hololive staff. That's not going to happen to anon

>> No.44915788

>>44915726
Calli had no streaming experience when she started.

>> No.44915812

can you faggots not reply to bait

>> No.44915871

>>44915754
best advice I've seen all day. Be a high-functioning manchild and spend your expendable income on vtubing insread of weed

>> No.44915872

>>44915812
Its not bait, a lot of retards here forget that a ton of corpos had literally no experience as a streamer beforehand.

>> No.44915923

>>44915872
you're the retard bcs you don't understand the difference between "starting" and "being hired"

>> No.44915933

>>44915779
If you had an absolutely massive youtube or some other kind of video creation account or something I could see you skipping into being a corpo vtuber. It has to be really big though. But even then I would really recommend trying to stream at least a little bit using that brand or account first. Even if you are just fleshtubing it will be a massive boost to your application to not have to put that you have 0 streaming experience on it.

>> No.44915968

>>44915788
Calli still operated under a persona for her (Past Life? Does it still count if she didn't actually stop while working Holo?) other works and brought over a ton of past catalog music production and art production skills so that made her very attractive as a prospect and probably very unique in that sense. Not too different from the JP idols or the ancient vtubers like Kaguya Luna.

>> No.44916032

>>44915871
Weed demotivates me and keeps me from streaming, I can't stand it. Addiction blows

>> No.44916060

>>44915812
Anyone with any sense is busy watching the VT League.

>> No.44916065

>>44915968
It's also difficult to predict what a company like Cover might do.
Because those who had established streaming backgrounds have tended to work out poorly for them. While those far removed have often worked out well.
Cover seems to keep bouncing between picking established streamers and people with no background.

>> No.44916088

>>44915968
speaking of Luna, the way she runs her new YT makes a good case for why her previos agency ran her as hard as they did

>> No.44916153

>>44916088
I thought her PL youtube predated Luna.

I miss my dunken screaming aunt tuber and her talking shrimp but hearing what her agency pulled was pretty sad.

>> No.44916164

>>44915933
yeah but your still need to make the YT happen as an INDIE

>> No.44916167

>>44915788
Holo en was seen as a massive gamble at the time. They also got orders of magnitude fewer applications for the first en gen than they did for the second gen. They just have so many more applicants to pick from these days, having no streaming experience is going to be a massive negative on anybody's application.

>> No.44916195

>>44916065
So what youre saying is, this anon has a good chance as a "no background"?

>> No.44916242

>>44916195
If he has some kind of content creation background that they might deem relevant and they're at that point in their swings?
Then yes.

>> No.44916281

>>44916164
Yeah I agree. I think the only way to skip being an indie these days is to join some very shit corpo. Like scam black company tier corpo. And vtubing for a company like that is practically the same as going indie anyway.

>> No.44916312

>>44916242
Which he has said he has >>44914670
So what the fuck are people arguing about?

>> No.44916344

>>44916153
PMaru was a pre-existing character but she didn't have the bandwidth to run both and she got pushback from management for not being consistent with content

>> No.44916370

>>44916281
the only people who join ones like that also are girls who literally can't afford a model

>> No.44916398

>>44916242
I think cover would seriously consider extremely tallented (like top tier pro) illustrators and talented musicians/singers.

>> No.44916411

tldr: you'll have a shot at corpos if you've already made it somewhere in whatever field it is.

Which kind of defeats the purpose of skipping past indie, but whatever.

>> No.44916437

So how do you guys view Restreaming (Simulcasting for multiple streaming services)? Also heard that YT is more suitable for Shorts and Video Clips/VODs while Twitch is better for streaming first. Will need advice on that as well.

>> No.44916467

>>44916411
If youre a succesful indie then why the fuck would you wanna go corpo?
Besides, no one here has good numbers and is still applying to corpos.

>> No.44916471

>>44916398
and even then they would set them up with a brand new character, to make sure there's no baggage

>> No.44916498

>>44916398
Have you not noticed how a lot of Covers talents have art skills? And every gen has a professional artist?
Cover burns through huge quantities of art assets so they're always bringing on any artists they can get their grubby mitts on.

Musicians and singers yeah sure. They're nice.
But you can teach almost anyone to sing.

>> No.44916500

>>44916312
He said he has "a following" "on Content Creation". He didn't say that he has actual experience valuable to any agency worth joining. He also has no idea what or how that experience is applicable or relevant to said corporation. You're taking a vaguepost on its face and filling in a shitton of blanks for them.

>> No.44916544

>>44916437
I stream to Twitch, recycle VOD and shorts to YT

>> No.44916592

>>44916471
Its less about baggage and more that the corporations (Holo and Niji especially) control the character and IP top down. They contract with the talents to play puppetmaster.

>> No.44916594

>>44916500
If he makes content that people watch, its very likely that its something an agency would like.
Unless its an instagram meme page.

>> No.44916625

>>44916498
and yet Yuzuki Choko can't sing to save her life lol

>> No.44916627

>>44916498
Isn't ina the only one who is pro? Sana was too and that didn't work out for them

>> No.44916705

>>44916467
Success is relative. Going corpo comes with a support network akin to hiring a very large and established manager, but one that also provides you its own persona and its own agenda of material to perform and associated expectations. It frees you up to do a lot more of the actual performing, but that freedom also brings with it all of the corporate expectations that indies generally don't have to deal with.

>> No.44916755

>>44916594
it's a blog full of nothingposts on how to supposedly make content that gets a bunch of views

>> No.44916764

>>44916398
Isn't that more or less what they did for Hizaki Gamma? They guy wanted to be a mangaka, but ended up doing vtubing. I'm honestly unsure if he has a PL because no one in the Western sphere talks about him.

Which is a shame, I think he's cool.

>> No.44916768

>>44915499
>I dont think there are many corpos that will hire people without any streaming experience
Which is exactly why I said I wanna gain experience streaming, so I can add it to my resume when applying.
Im not just trying to waltz into a company with no experience, I do wanna learn and stream and work on my skills, like talking skills. I just corpo as a final ideal dream, I know a lot of people here wanna go indie and thats fine too, but thats just not what I wanna do fully.

>> No.44916769

>>44916594
>very likely
You should take up track and field making leaps like that.

>> No.44916858

>>44916755
>>44916769
you are all really salty here lmfaooo

>> No.44916897

>>44916768
Nigga press GO LIVE, like nigga start streaming nigga.
STREAM NIGGA, DO YOU FUCKING UNDERSTAND?
NO CORPORATION IS GONNA HIRE YOU IF YOU DON'T HAVE STREAMING EXPERIENCE.
Nigga.

>> No.44916954

>>44916897
THATS WHAT I SAID IM DOING
WHAT THE FUCK

>> No.44916971

>>44916858
>I claimed to be a bigshot and nobody believes me.
>Guess I'll just vaguepost

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I've noticed that posts are lower quality when they don't have a picture. Everyone types faster and more aggressively. Why don't we put a smile on that face?

>>44916437
I should be simultaneous streaming, I have no excuse not to at my current follower count, nothing to lose. It's just that sometimes I go fuck it and play copyrighted music on stream when I'm on a boring segment of the game.

>> No.44917024

>>44916954
If this is the apex of your ability to communicate with an audience that other anon is right. You don't have a prayer.

>> No.44917045

>>44916897
No, the guy gets it, which is why they're here anyways.

>>44916768
OK so, going back to the start, no one is forcing you to post your socials, and no one is stopping you from posting. We can only say really vague and general shit that may or may not apply to you without more context.

If you want actual advice regarding your content, you'll have to post.

If you want advice on what to do, just stream. Read OP for some general advice.

>> No.44917074

>>44916768
Well that would be my advice then. If you already have good numbers on an account, all you need to be able to show is that you can be a reliable streamer and you will do so much better interviewing. I would say stream 3-5 times a week for at least a couple months, then apply.

It will also help you learn if you actually even want to be a streaming vtuber. It would really suck to join a corpo and then realize that you actually fucking hate streaming for whatever reason.

>> No.44917080

>>44916971
Im not that nigga, but you guys start projecting that shit when all Im saying is he could potentially have a chance.
You are all salty.

>> No.44917089

>>44916627
Marine drew doujinshi and had quite the following for a while.
Magni is a pro.
There's a few others I'm forgetting. The assertion that "every gen has a pro" is wrong. But the claim that Cover has a strong preference for artists isn't.

>> No.44917110

>>44916897
this

>> No.44917161

>>44917089
Magni isnt a pro. He was a successful fleshtuber before he was in stars.

>> No.44917183

All this talk of going pro.
Lets go over the current aspie crop.
Who has what it takes to go pro? Which ones would each of the big corpos go "yeah I like dis nigga"

>> No.44917217

>>44917089
Magni was a pro but at something else, not art.
And his art is good quality, just nothing amazing.

>> No.44917311

>>44917217
He's fast, decent and consistent.
Basically exactly what Covers needs in someone they're gonna lean on to pump out assets for his whole gen.

>> No.44917429

>>44917183
I'll be Simon Cowell brutally honest. No one does
Everyone is too fucking generic or trying to be like their favorite vtuber/fleshstreamer, no unique talents or gimmicks, in fact, for some reason some think playing obscure games no one gives a fuck about (starsector) to be a plus. No, bring out real talent. Drawing and singing is cool, but its oversaturated, so unless you bring some unique twist to that or are top of the top, then its nothing we or corpos haven't seen already.
Do something more fucking original, play a weird instrument, fucking paint canvases or do pottery, some shit to stand out.

>> No.44917461

If you're getting high 3views, you've already gone pro on your own.
If you're not getting 3views, corps don't want you.
You're essentially giving up your own IP, creative freedom and part of income for the sake of easier merch and unified overhead.

>> No.44917608

>>44917183
Runoxi's the only one that's putting in the effort and resources to feel corpo. I think she's the best candidate if she can keep going for a year or two without hiatus.
My second pick would be denpa because she's appealing to the masses.
The rest are not going to make it, at least not in the corpo path. They might make friends and be happy and that's a type of making it too.

>> No.44917766

>>44917024
You seriously arent comparing posting anonymously in this board to how someone talks on stream, right?

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>>44917608
Yeah, Runoxi is putting in a lot of effort on that front.

Actually, Rune if you're reading this, you should probably make some shorts/TikToks from your streams, maybe a super-short version of your debut, or something.

And oh, she's doing a collab with Denpa this week. https://twitter.com/runoxi_/status/1635004976190877697

>> No.44917895

>>44917183
Basing my prediction on previous aspies. All of the females will stream for at most 1-2 months before flaming out and quietly quitting. All the males will stream for a minimum of 6 months with 1-3 average ccv and everyone will completely forget they exist.

>> No.44917988

>>44917766
They translate pretty well actually. If you can't handle anonymous banter you're going to fold like a house of cards under actual stress.

>> No.44918059

>>44917867
oh cool, she's leeching from denpa
she'll fit perfectly in nijisanji

>> No.44918099

>>44917608
KK here, gotta love how we timelooped back to the "Here's my Corpo audition tape uwu" cycle.
I don't even know whether most of Gen 4 wants to be corpo, or if they just like streaming and streaming related activities.
Listening to Pippa's take on it, if you don't know how to make money move as an indie, you got no chance of going corpo.

>> No.44918121

>>44917988
So? Rushia still got into 2 corpos.

>> No.44918123

>>44917608
I feel Runoxi is the one least likely to go corpo.
Her main power is networking.
That basically dies if she goes corpo.

>> No.44918204

>>44918121
How's her rebound going?

>> No.44918241

>>44918059
lmfaoooooooo

Not much point when half their audience is /asp/ anyways.

>>44918099
mf another new IP.

>>44918123
That might be really good for NijiEN since they have a lot of people.

>> No.44918279

>>44918204
She has more impact during her holo era than you ever will in your entire life.

>> No.44918289

>>44912826
I remember your schedule notebook post. Cool artstyle.

>> No.44918315

>>44918123
>That basically dies if she goes corpo
How did you come to that conclusion? PC and IdolCorp both have a lot of talen-level networking going on.

>> No.44918319

>>44918241
Well I mean more her existing network will mostly turn on her if she joins a corpo.

>> No.44918384

>>44918279
"Had" ESLchama

>> No.44918427

>>44918319
Eh, her current network will change as time goes on anyways.

>> No.44918458

>>44918315
Why would you wanna go to PC or IdolCorp if you already have a good model?
That blue bitch has definetly spent a ton of money on the models and the graphics and all that shit, so if she wants to go corpo she'll probably go for the big ones.

>> No.44918522

>>44918384
Her impact is still going

>> No.44918536

>>44918319
The value of your current network is immediate but the skill in building one carries with you and looks very attractive from a management standpoint.

>> No.44918580

Should I keep farming groomers? I have a couple of obvious ones in my community, but I've been playing dumb while leading them on, even going as far as
adding them on my "personal" discord and giving them fake info about myself to make it seem like they're actually getting somewhere with this shit. I figured
that they would go away on their own eventually after months and months of not getting anything real for their money, but they're still around somehow. Not that I
feel particularly bad about it, since there is a part of me that feels that they deserve to get farmed for being a bunch of creeps.

>> No.44918606

>>44918458
Are you seriously under the impression that the only reason to join a corp is for the model that you don't actually own? Holy christ.

>> No.44918649

>>44918536
You guys seriously aren't discussing having other /asp/ or /here/ as "conections" something that corpos are looking for, right?

>> No.44918688

>>44918649
Anon, networking is a skill that exists outside and independent of this board. You understand that right?

>> No.44918700

>>44918606
Nigga please, learn to read. You are so retarded you give me a migraine.

>> No.44918763

>>44918688
Yes, but when your contacts are all literal whos or worse, related to 4chan, then who gives a fuck.

>> No.44918776

Are any of you streaming later?
I might lurk after my stream.
Thanks!

>> No.44918825

>>44918700
Cool response bro. Wait until you learn that half of PC's current roster had detailed L2D models before joining PC.

>> No.44918885

>>44918522
You'd want to say something like

> She has had more impact during her Holo era than you will ever have in your entire life.

I think? It's been fucking forever since I've had to think of past continuous tense.

>>44918580
Yeah, sure. Make sure you have fun with it though, that's the most important thing. :D

>>44918649
I think the impressive think about Runoxi is that she does actually make friends with people outside of /asp/. Even if they're similar 1-view/2-views or even pre-debut vtweeters, they're still connections she managed to make herself.

>> No.44918900

>>44917429
>DO SOMETHING ORIGINAL TO YOUR AUDIENCE OF NOBODY
retardchama

>> No.44918925

>>44918763
Because the point isn't "Who do you know as contacts you'll bring with you" and "Wow, it looks like this person has the ability to network and build business relationships and connections with others and work with them in a way that the job will require."
Also you're not getting picked up by a corpo as a literally who networked only with other literally whos dummy. You're getting picked up as somebody who has already established something notable by using networking skills demonstrated by that work.

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>>44918580
Sure, you're teaching them a very important lesson: that they should hate women.
Whether they learn quickly or not at all is up to them.

>> No.44918958

>>44917183
I don’t think Beryl would probably make it to corpo since femboys are an extreme niche (and they’re basically nonexistent on EN), but his game choices are nice and he’d probably have a better time being an indie. He puts in a decent amount of effort for production, just needs to stream a bit more often and maybe have a consistent schedule. Maybe when EN corpos start rolling out more femboys he might have a chance.

>> No.44918965

Instead of simping for Denpafish or Runoxi, maybe you guys can work on your content?

Everyone knows Potato Slav is best waifu anyways.

>> No.44918988

>>44918885
>past continuous tense
The Holo era ended so it wouldn't be continuous anyway. "Had" is enough.

>> No.44919011

>>44918776
I will. Im in the previous gen of aspies though so shilling myself will look sad.

>> No.44919104

>>44918776
Digby is planning a stream later.
He'll be streaming alien isolation assuming he doesn't just go "nah gonna stream something else lol"

>> No.44919120

I love streaming. Even after two months I feel really energetic about it and I'm growing slowly but surely
Once I get my live2d model I hope I get more attention but I'm just excited to see my chat watch me emote

>> No.44919156

>>44919104
You better catto!

>> No.44919173

>>44918458
If she’s a literal retard she’ll join one of the big two.
These gook companies are so restrictive and have this “perms” retardation from gook island infesting them.
PC also has Phase Invaders so she would keep her model, and Idol is similarly unrestrictive in general compared to the nippon menace.

>> No.44919199

>>44918988
The point of using past continuous tense was to emphasise the lasting impact on the community. Which is fair, considering the GFE bait we're getting everywhere nowadays.

But yeah lmfao, Rushia died.

>>44919011
Sorry, dude. I know you've been posting here without self-posting while seeing everyone else do that. Just give it a shot! I promise you it won't be cringe.

>>44918958
Does anyone have a vod of his debut? I just realized it's a bit unfair to say that Runoxi has put in more effort than others on her debut when I haven't watched his yet.

Female buff fr fr.

>> No.44919328
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I am Kankuro.

>> No.44919382

>>44918580
Gumpai, you shouldn't be this obvious.

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>>44919328
No I am Kankuro!

>> No.44919460

>>44919120
I hate streaming, after over 2 years I'm still declining, but my mental has been hardened to the point where I can keep going forever. It gets worse before it gets better and there's only autism on the other side.

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>>44919328
No, ME!

>> No.44919572

>>44919382
gumpai wouldn't do that.. right?

>> No.44919585

>>44919173
this is small corpo cope

>> No.44919610

>>44919199
>Sorry, dude. I know you've been posting here without self-posting while seeing everyone else do that. Just give it a shot! I promise you it won't be cringe.
Alright. First time ive self posted on /asp/ in probably 6 months. I'm trying to get out there more, do collabs, talk to new chuubas, that sort of thing. Ive been in a bit of a rut recently.
https://www.twitch.tv/freeofme

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>>44919328
>>44919419
>>44919490

>> No.44919806

>>44913717
You have quite the ego if you think you can go corpo. If you could go corpo then that means you could be successful as an indie with the right steps.

>> No.44919836

>>44919610
Hey man, I really like your voice. So were you the guy who streamed every day and posted your results a while back in the thread?
I would try following more male vtubers and see if they can help boost you. I think you have more of a chance than other guys I've seen, you seem pretty energetic

>> No.44919978

>>44919610
Oh, didn't someone bring you up a while ago?

Yeah, here >>44000696.

Glad to still you're still around.

>>44919382
>>44919572
Doesn't really feel like her typing style. But all I have to base that on is whenever she self-posts in /wvt/, so... Maybe it is her! That would be honestly pretty funny.

Actually, I hope it is her.

>> No.44920124

>>44919610
Brother the thread's changed, please post when you can.
I saw a few VODs of yours when I was not born yet, you got an infectious energy!

>> No.44920144

>>44919978
>Doesn't really feel like her typing style.
>schizos using autism powers to decipher typing styles

>> No.44920283

>>44920144
some anons are fucking WILD with how they can determine posters, always creepy when they get it right off some random small post too

>> No.44920334

>>44920283
Digby is the easiest to spot.
He's the only one who uses proper english spelling

>> No.44920385

>>44919836
Yeah, that was me. It was a fun little experiment. But it did kind of force me to realize that "just streaming" isn't going to really get me too far, no matter how diligently I go about it or how much I stream. Not that I necessarily want to get huge or anything, but even a small incline in numbers over time does a lot to making myself feel good about myself you know? And thanks for the compliments. I really do feel like I have improved my streaming abilities since I started, even if my numbers have barely changed.

>>44919978
Yeah, some people brought me up a while ago. And I was grouped in with the current gen of aspies for a while for some reason. Though that isn't as crazy as it sounds, when I first started streaming /asp/ thread quality was complete garbage and it was difficult for anyone here to work together, so I definitely did not feel like part of a gen even remotely at the time.

>>44920124
Thanks man. I appreciate the kind words!

>> No.44920432

>>44920124
>I saw a few VODs of yours when I was not born yet
Your mom's stomach must've had great wi-fi

>> No.44920462

>>44918580
farm them down, catalogue everything, then sell them out to the feds once the money dries up

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>>44919199
>Does anyone have a vod of his debut?
Doesn't look like it's saved on Twitch or YT, so maybe he did that thing that everyone does where they don't toggle archives saved until after their first video (debut), sad.
https://www.youtube.com/@berylberu/videos
I appreciate that he makes some effort into his VOD thumbnails, even if he's not streaming live on YT. Makes it a bit more soulful, if anything.

Also please, I hope people will stream more roguelikes in general. I only know like two or three vtubers that stream Elona, which I'd assume would be a great game for content considering it's an open world sandbox.

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>> No.44920713

>>44920144
It's the style but also little things that they've said before, set phrases they use.

>>44920334
He a brit ain't he? I feel Olga is easier to spot.

>> No.44920721

>>44920144
Yeah... A lot of people have told me I have undiagnosed autism or that I'm somewhere on the spectrum. I don't want to get it diagnosed...

Without talking about specific tics in the writing style, the reason why I don't think that is gumpai is because her self-posts always feel a bit schizo. Even if what she writes is grammatically correct, it doesn't really feel like the sentence is intelligible until you finish reading the sentence.

The post up there reads completely different, as it sounds really calculating.

>>44920581
RIP, maybe when he's awake he can tell us what he did for his debut.

>> No.44920765

>>44920334
i also use proper english spelling but when i'm schizoposting i use proper american.

>> No.44920894

>>44920669
I will use this information to become the circus freak in a cage vtuber.

>> No.44921044

>>44920385
You should definitely talk to some of the newer people in the thread, they don't have any problems talking to each other and networking with people. Two of them are actually collabing this week, and a bunch of them show up in each other's streams to support each other. A lot of people also feel a bit more comfortable posting their socials here and asking for feedback. The attitude change for the thread has been wild, in a good way.

>> No.44921100

>>44921044
No the thread is cancer, but the discord(s) are pretty alright.

>> No.44921173

>>44921044
As a rule I'd love to collab with basically anyone.
But I'm at such a low level I feel that any attempt to do so will be seen as a lazy fuck clout chasing.

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>>44918965
/asp/

>> No.44921227

this generation does not have a yellow cat or obvious sexpests, this is nice

>> No.44921234

>>44920385
You got grouped in because I included you. It seemed obvious enough at the time and I remembered you.

>> No.44921255

>>44921044
I probably wouldn't collab this second until I feel my zatsu skills are up to par enough to hold half the stream together.
But I would second that anon's advice, we're all just trying to have fun here right now. Any crabbing going on is mainly from lookie loos peeing in.

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>>44920713
Glowing ESL potat

>> No.44921325

>>44921173
Your first mistake is having a shame reflex. Exorcise that shit.

>> No.44921410

>>44921044
Yeah, I feel like doing some collabs might be like a good time. At the very minimum I would like to raid some people here if possible. Normally I can manage at least a good 5 people a raid. Not a huge amount but I know how much it matters when you are just starting.

>> No.44921445

>>44921255
Collab is less "carry half of a zatsu" and more "be able to talk to your partner." Collabs are effectively improv. Spend some time talking to the person who wants to collab with you or that you want to collab with. Get to know eachother and build rapport. Once you know eachother enough to develop chemistry, then you're ready to collab.

Just don't make the mistake of immediately cutting off communication after the collab because that makes you That Guy who just makes friends for collab fodder.

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>>44920581
this thumbnail oozes /jp/ elona thread. he probably got thumbnail ideas from there or even posted there before lol

>> No.44921613

>>44921445
Good advice anon, I'll try to network more with the chuubas here.
I just have a "performer" mentality, I don't want to drag down the performance so I get some anxiety over it.

>> No.44921642

>>44921227
sexpests got ousted out of the discords and ignored in the threads

>> No.44921651

>>44921100
Visagecord is more cancerous than the thread, anyone there worth talking to is on Lancecord or Revcord

>> No.44921699

>>44921613
if you watch most collabs with streamers in general (not even just vtubers), it's just dicking around with friends in a voice chat on discord. the only thing is just avoiding dead air but if you know the person well enough it won't even come to mind

>> No.44921708

>denpa and olga have made contact
it's time for teetee

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>>44921445
Reminds me of the guy from last thread (or a few threads back) who was like "Why did the boring girl unfriend me on Discord after our collab?"

I'll be busy when this thread dies. I made the next image for OP, and I spent way too long trying to get a fisheye effect on the /asp/ before I gave up on it. It just didn't look good.

>> No.44921739

I don't know if the rule I heard from other indies carries over to /asp/ but I was made to understand that the expectation on collabs is that the higher rated (viewed) channel reaches out to the smaller. That tends to limit the "clout chaser" appearance I'd imagine. Not sure if it really matters that much when its mostly new channels collabing.

>> No.44921877

>>44921729
I'll try to post the new OP, thanks for the image, i always struggle to find the ones i already have and don't want to download more

>> No.44921949

>>44921708
Someone draw them making out

>> No.44921951

>>44921729
Hats off to you anon!
Keep the fire of this thread alive!

>> No.44921971

>>44921699
Remember when Numi went on Lewdcast and had ZERO chemistry with Mel? That was fucking painful to watch

>> No.44921983

>>44921877
I've just been using the tag at_computer on Gelbooru for the last few threads.

>>44921949
Are you the Digby x Kankuro shipper?

>> No.44922027

>>44921949
Yeah with me

>> No.44922075

shitty party games seem to be a good way to get a lot of new viewers

>> No.44922083

>>44921739
You're avoiding a bad power dynamic that way.

>> No.44922133

>>44921983
No
>>44922027
No, with each other

>> No.44922248

>>44921983
I can't edit for shit so i just recycle the ones others made, that's why i was thanking you

>> No.44922271

>>44921642
that's what they want you to think but they've become insidious and put up a facade in public
the sexpest and groomer menaces are still very much real

>> No.44922410

do you get annoyed at that chatter where every time they type, it's a joke?

>> No.44922502

I won't shill myself here as a femanon because I don't know how I'll be received with a majority male skew to the thread but
Honestly even the bad posts in this thread give good food for thought. Keep up the grind, /asp/ies

>> No.44922506

Just think of chatters as customers that come to your shop.
Sure are most customers annoying, yeah, but do they patronize your shop? Yessir.

Try to steer around their weirdness and control the flow of the stream. I'll be honest I've been plagued with a scourge of the earth chatter who I have not been able to manage. I'm looking at customer service/call center videos for guidance.

>> No.44922635

>>44922502
>I don't know how I'll be received
Given the last woman to post her channel here got 20 views instantly I've got a pretty good idea.

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If I hosted a watch party for the VT League next weekend you'd come and watch with me right, /asp/?

>> No.44922744

>>44922248
Ah, well, photoshop moment.

>> No.44922750

>>44922721
>Them Shoulders..
Anytime babe!

>> No.44922766

>>44922721
why you squinting

>> No.44922781

>>44922410
Depends, are the jokes really bad? Usually I would appreciate a chatter that jokes around but if it's tone-deaf comment after comment...

>> No.44922798

>>44922766
Autoblink caught me looking off to the side. Still fucking around with the params.

>> No.44922886

>>44922750
>anon's secret shoulder fetish

>> No.44922961

>>44920581
My first gaming stream will almost certainly be Sil-Q. Just gotta figure out a fun gimmick. Maybe I'll hack in some crowd control style stream integration once I have channel points.

>> No.44922967

>>44921983
>Are you the Digby x Kankuro shipper?
Seems like I am slowly becoming a minor thread celebrity around here

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>>44922967
Well you caused this.

>> No.44923056

Thoughts on this stream?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UUGEQaJAi-0

>> No.44923080

>>44922502
Just post? It's not like there are groomers here... are there? Honestly, there probably are a few, but they don't seem to be that good at it.

>>44922635
Runoxi getting 20+ people on her debut is due to her own efforts, which were her networking skills before her debut. For example, fuwacoco got 5 ccv on her debut Halo CE stream and Denpafish was hovering around 7-10 for the first stream she posted here.

>> No.44923145

>>44923080
do we know when the hag is gonna stream again? I missed her first one

>> No.44923163

>>44923080
>Runoxi
I was talking about Olga and Denpa

>> No.44923360

>>44922410
femchuubas are the easiest to make laugh. doesn't even have to be a proper joke

>> No.44923399

>>44923145
> SCHEDULE: Wednesdays 8pm Eastern / 5pm Pacific
From her Twitch.

>>44923163
Ah, you meant the most recent female self-poster. Not the most recent female /asp/ie.

Also, I'm absolutely sure I talked about this guy recently, but I can't find my post anymore... I'm sure someone replied to me too, but it's not in the archives.
https://twitter.com/frithjof_enrsn/status/1633987499503628290

I think I'm just going insane.

>> No.44923428

>>44923399
God I'm stupid thanks

>> No.44923507

>>44921708
>>44921949
Tell me more about the ship. What's the energy like?

>> No.44923608

>>44923399
I was actually just talking about their most recent streams. Debuts are whatever for most since they're flash in the pan events.

>> No.44923844

>>44923163
Forgot to add to this, >>44923399, but yeah, Denpa did get a lot of views for her affiliate celebration.

>>44923507
They're the most active femanons here. Well, the most active anons who openly share that they're female. So you have the image of two flowers(?) in a field of sausages.

They both have some issues with speaking in English, with Olga being a Slavic ESL and Denpa sounding like what she does + audio issues.

And then there's the fact that there was a bit of miscommunication from Olga's side, which led her to assume that Denpa disliked her. You can see them clearing this misunderstanding in the previous thread.

>>44923608
Eh, they don't get 20+ viewers on normal streams though. Though I guess having 5-viewers is better than having 0-viewers.

>> No.44923956

>>44922721
No

>> No.44923985

>>44923844
I need to know if there's a top and bottom, if one is passive or if they're both shy. Or can you feel the lust overflowing from the kiss!?
This is art, you need to capture the moment!

>> No.44924102

do i belong here if I've already been streaming for quite some time
i don't think wvt or other places exactly like me...

>> No.44924144

>>44923985
At this point, it's too early to tell. We need to wait for a collab.

I'm watching a Kankuro stream for the first time, and damn he's actually pretty fun to watch. It's like watching a sports commentator for Darkest Dungeon.

Too bad I'm busy and have to leave now. Keep up the good work, King.

>> No.44924206

>>44924102
Just self-post shamelessly. We'll probably like you? Unless you turn out to be the terminally schizoposting guy from /wvt/, in which case I'd be obligated to warn people here about you.

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>>44924102
yeah, anyone is welcome here vro! feel free to ask for advice or post your stuff here for feedback if you'd like

>> No.44924675

>>44924144
Kankuro hands wrote this

>> No.44924790

https://www.twitch.tv/denpafish attention we have an /asp/ie streaming rn!

>> No.44924895

>>44924790
she already got raided, what else do you want?

>> No.44924966

>>44924895
i want you to kiss me on the lips, faggot

>> No.44925071

>>44924966
Im gay so Im down

>> No.44925172

>>44924675
I don't remember typing this.

>> No.44925683

>>44924206
>>44924233
okay anons here i go! >.< not sure what people actually think of me!
twitch.tv/zenyahima

>> No.44925783

>>44925683
You should shill in /wvt/ at this point

>> No.44925904

>>44925683
Lovely soft voice and pretty well looking color palette.

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>>44923956
Better?

>> No.44926140

>>44911385
>be me
>be new tuber
>join a stream posted here
>chat is full of other /asp/ies that already know eachother
>wanna talk but feel weird cause it feels like everyone else is already friends and Im just gonna butt in uninvited
>get unironically anxious, palms are sweaty
>just watch stream quietly for a bit
>leave
:(

>> No.44926156

>>44925683
ah shit I'm sorry for never doing that drawing
I think you just need to get out there and talk to people, you know, mingle
your voice reminds me of miyu's, someone who used to post here
I don't hate you but I don't like looking at you personally

>> No.44926199

>>44926140
as one of said chuubas, i invite you personally to join us chatting in said streams

>> No.44926264

>>44926199
I actually should be studying for a big test, so I'll just stop procastinating and do that.
But when I'm more free next month, I'll try to be more social and also start streaming for real.

>> No.44926303

>>44926048
Kek

>> No.44926343

>>44926264
did you just stream earlier?

>> No.44926405

>>44926140
Just do what I do, say
>hi
>I like your [something]
And then lurk until you have something you want to say, no pressure.

>> No.44926488

>>44926140
You're invited to participate.

>> No.44926542

>>44921227
>this generation does not have a obvious sexpest
>t. tally
dont believe the misdirection. be careful.

>> No.44926636

>>44926343
No, I havent even posted myself here before.

>> No.44926692

>>44926405
>>44926488
Ah, thanks!

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I've got some assets coming and I don't really have a presentation ready so strawpoll time.

https://strawpoll.com/polls/3RnYlVp5zye

>> No.44927007

We need a NAME for Gen4.
Anyone have any ideas?

>> No.44927101

>>44925683
>Factorio

I guess you'll be playing autistic games. Ill tune in next time you stream.

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>>44927007
gen 4
4
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Fortune.

>> No.44927163

I am a sexpest but I also am a gentleman so I won't ask you for photos of your body parts no matter how much I want them.
However mark my words, you will eventually send those photos of your own volition.

>> No.44927397

>>44925783
how does this work tho? just end up getting ignored most of the time haha
>>44925904
omg thanks?? ;;
>>44926156
its okay understandable, desu i wish i did things differently but oh well

>> No.44927461

>>44925683
Your older model was better.

>> No.44927492

>>44927129
There's eight of them right?
The fortune 800

>> No.44927529

how do these girls dont get their identity revealed?
don't you have to fill in your personal data when creatinga google account? or when giving your paypal/bank account to receive the money?
how can they stay fully anonymoyus?

>> No.44927568

>>44927397
>its okay understandable, desu i wish i did things differently but oh well
I know that you mean, a tiger doesn't change its stripes

>> No.44927587

>>44927529
You try cracking google/paypal to get their personal information. I'll wait.

>> No.44927600

In half an hour the Digby stream begins.
Is anyone looking forward to the mysterious announcement?

>> No.44927614

>>44927129
4TUNE is actually really good.

>> No.44927649

>>44927529
Imagine actually putting your real name on your paypal account. Business accounts exist for a reason.

>> No.44927776

>>44927529
You should be able to use fake everything except for the paypal, I'm trying to figure out that part too. I've seen some chuubas play Genshin making in game purchases, so some Mihoyo employee can match their UID and payment info if they wanted to. That's why I will never play that game on stream as much as I like it.

>> No.44927809

>>44927529
Create a new gmail account with your vtuber name, create a very powerful password
Use streamlabs instead of Paypal for donations
Twitch doesn't reveal your Paypal information when you become an affiliate and you can create a separate account for that as well if you want
Source: I am a female with affiliate

>> No.44927846

>>44927129
>>44927614
>4TUNE
It took me a while to realize it's suppose to be pronounced Fortune.
I was reading it has "Four Toon" at first.

>> No.44927906

>>44927163
Wait a sec. I don't remember writing this.

>> No.44927976

>>44927397
Look at the strawpoll post. Not posted very long ago and it already has 10 responses 0 replies and this is a slow thread.
Don't really pay attention to replies.

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>>44927976
10?

>> No.44928236

>>44927587
it's not really about cracking, it's more about finding some type of ID that takes you straight to the person.
>>44927649
can you omit your personal info entirely when using a paypal business account? or you have to lie about your name, etc?
>>44927776
last time I tried to create a google account, it asked for smartphone number. this really bothered me.
>>44927809
>Use streamlabs instead of Paypal for donations
can you use OBS for streaming and streamlabs only for the payment system?

>> No.44928447

>>44928189
I was looking at something else but yeah. 5:0 votes:replies. Then there's even more people just reading.

>> No.44928592

>>44928236
>>Use streamlabs instead of Paypal for donations
>can you use OBS for streaming and streamlabs only for the payment system?
WHATEVER YOU DO DO NOT USE ANYTHING STREAMLABS FFS, THAT ANON IS RETARDED

>> No.44928625

>>44927976
>>44928447
Keep in mind that people here are not really viewers, they're mostly trying to become vtubers, whatever that means.
And people in /wvt/ are just schizos, trolls, or viewers that already know who they want to watch.

>> No.44928634

>>44927776
You can set it up a paypal business account under a DBA.

>> No.44928727

>>44928236
>or you have to lie about your name, etc?
My name and bank account attach to the business account. I made a second account for the business even though I don't really have any plans to spend time or money registering the LLC. The Paypal.me page only shows the business name. Make sure you double check that before you push your link live. Paypal just assumes you want to tell everyone your name before pushing the link.

>>44928592
If your goal was to be helpful rather than unhinged you should tell anon WHY rather than all caps screeching like a lunatic.

>> No.44928816

>>44928727
Streamlabs doxxed the chuuba I mod for to several viewers.
Thankfully no one did anything with that info.

>> No.44928919

>>44928816
How did that happen? I don't think I've given them anything with personally identifiable info.

>> No.44928926

I get that some crazies want to dox big vtubers like Gura, but why would anyone go after 2view nobodies?

I'm not saying that it's a bad habit to hide your personal info like your paypal/streamlabs accounts.
But it feels a bit paranoid to worry about someone doxxing you when hardly anyone even watches you.

>> No.44928973

>>44928816
They may have meant Streamelements.

>Q. What information will my viewers see?
A. The viewers who tip you don’t receive any of your information besides the channel name. The charge appears on their credit/debit card bill as “STREAMELEMENTS*<Your Channel Name>-tip”'

>> No.44929032

>>44928926
How else am I going to play my banjo by your window while you're trying to sleep?

>> No.44929041

>>44928926
The best opsec starts early. Also, people are unhinged and will absolutely dox or stalk a lowview chuuba specifically because they think low views are more vulnerable.

>> No.44929046

>>44928926
gotta prep for when you go big anon
people are fucking weirdos and some psycho groomer/stalker could latch onto a random 2view

>> No.44929073

had my first ever collab today, edited down a tiktok clip, didn't check my numbers/viewers all stream, and I feel like I'm understanding vtubing more.. i feel satisfied :D

>> No.44929087

>>44928919
IDK my dude, streamlabs somehow got the info off her paypal and showed that in the recipts.
I mean streamlabs is a bad company already, the last thing you want is to get doxxed by them.

>> No.44929112

>>44928973
Wait so is streamlabs or streamelements the safe one?

>> No.44929185

>>44929112
I pulled that quote directly from the Stream Elements FAQ

https://support.streamelements.com/en/articles/176-se-pay-tipping-system#:~:text=my%20personal%20information%3F-,A.,is%20stored%20on%20StreamElements%20servers.

>> No.44929217

>>44929112
StreamElements is the good one.

>> No.44929280

>>44929112
avoid giving any money/cut to streamlabs where you can, streamelements is genuinely just better in every regard (alerts, tipping, avoiding chargebacks, sponsorships)

>> No.44929423

>>44929185
>>44929217
>>44929280
Thanks!
Also question, so should I use a PayPal business account for this? As a creator? Everytime I try to research it just show info from the donator perspective, and what info the creator will be able to see from them, but not viceversa.

>> No.44929481

>>44929423
Currently doing a test with some friends to ensure that the FAQ is correct.

>> No.44929490

We should discuss tax evasion next thread, and how to get away with it.

>> No.44929502

>>44929481
Pls pls pls let me know what you find.

>> No.44929505
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44929505

Oh boy oh boy.
It's that time again and I am a little late b ut only a few minutes so its all good.
Digby is ready for some fucking running away bravely from the alien menace!
https://www.twitch.tv/digbycat

Also don't forget there's a special announcement somewhere in this stream

>> No.44929572

I can't believe digby is gonna show his actual cat_ live on twitch

>> No.44929617

>>44929505
I have to work so someone fill me in on what is that he is revealing

>> No.44929691

>>44929505
Try not to say anything too interesting in the first 5 minutes of the the stream, it can take a while until the twitch notifications get sent out.
I'd recommend a getting ready screen and getting yourself a drink.

>> No.44929717

>>44929423
You don't need one.
If you do get one, make sure to transfer your money to your main account or out of paypal.
I've heard stories of people who get their accounts shut down because they get flagged as suspicious, and they don't give you the money on that account to you when they shut it down.

>> No.44929877

>>44929691
Oh... is that why people have "starting soon" screens? LMAO I always assumed it was just a formality at this point.

>> No.44929880

>>44929073
we know lain

>> No.44929888

>>44929502
Alright, so. Test just run and here's the information I have from that. Pushing the tip button and sending a donation without completing it gives you an option to cancel the payment. The full link says "Cancel and return to <email address associated with the paypal account>". The FAQ mentioning that the payment will appear on the donor's credit card as "Streamlabs - Channel name" appears to instead have generated a message that says "Streamlabs - My Email Address" and then a Paypal receipt that says "You sent a payment of $1.00 to Name on my PayPal at Email Address"

Going to contact Stream Elements support and see if there's a way around this. Otherwise absolutely obfuscate all of that shit behind a DBA business account.

>> No.44929939

>>44929717
So a personal account is fine and wont get doxxed?

>> No.44929954

>>44929877
Yeah, it gives your followers/subscribers time to see the notification and join the stream before you get started. It invites everyone who follows you to mingle and be social before you arrive. etc.

>> No.44929981

>>44929888
Buddy, I think you got streamlabs and streamelements confused, they're not the same company.

>> No.44929998

>>44929888
How the fuck do big streamers that get tips not get doxxed then?

>> No.44930012

>>44929939
See
>>44929888

>> No.44930030

>>44929888
>>44929981
This is streamlabs, the bad one:
https://streamlabs.com/

This is streamelements, the GOOD one:
https://streamelements.com/

>> No.44930051

>>44929888
So this was streamlabs?
But what about Stream Elements that is supposed to be more safe?

>> No.44930065

>>44929981
>>44930030
>>44930051

Nah, I'm just an idiot and typed the wrong name because they're similar. The test was run through Stream Elements.

>> No.44930135

>>44930065
You could do kofi if you want anonymous tips.
https://help.ko-fi.com/hc/en-us/articles/115004001294-What-Personal-Information-Is-Shared-on-Ko-fi-

>> No.44930143

>>44929880
i'm doing my best D:

>> No.44930188

>>44929490
move to Costa Rica. boom - you no longer pay fed income tax

>> No.44930205

>>44930135
I tried opening a Kofi a while ago and I remembered hearing the exact same thing about how it gives out your personal information. And same with Patreon.

Like what the fuuuck

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>>44930135
Kofi will also show your name on any payment received through Paypal. Just use a business account and transfer the money out.

>> No.44930379

>>44930291
but then paypal will shut it down for being suspicious...
Im guessing corpo vtubers just have a business account but its obviously a real business so it wont be suspicious?

>> No.44930383

>>44930188
I'll only say this: amazon gift card money laundering.

>> No.44930397

>>44928926
the more breadcrumbs you leave in your early days, the more likely some nolifer will be able to doxx you when/if you become relevant enough. Do you want to give them that chance, anon?

>> No.44930427

>>44930379
You ARE a real business anon. Also, nothing stops somebody from reporting your personal Paypal as suspicious. You're just going to have to deal with that.

>> No.44930454

All this confusing shit about payments and donations and trying to not get doxxed.
And you guys get mad at me for wanting to go full corpo.

>> No.44930505

>>44930397
True, its how people found Pomu's nudes

>> No.44930507

>>44928592
>>44928973
Sorry, I did mean streamelements.

>> No.44930645

>>44930454
I mean, you can get the same "I don't want to have to deal with any of this accounting bullshit" from having a paid manager of any sort. It is kinda stupid that the tipping pass-through services don't really have proper anonymizing but I think that's probably a finance law requirement that they don't interfere.

>> No.44930697

>>44930454
Shut the fuck up nigga, you wouldn't survive the corporate environment.

>> No.44930704

>>44930645
Its annoying as fuck

>> No.44930737

>>44930397
>when/if you become relevant enough
Lmao, that will never happen. I'll always be irrelevant.

>> No.44930786

>>44930143
Can we kiss? It would be funny.

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>>44930737
An interesting claim. However, I'm in your room right now.

>> No.44930797

>>44930737
Based nihilistic anon

>> No.44930867

>>44929490
Do the blizzard thing and set up a shell corp in a tax haven that holds all your IP and charges 100% of your profits to use the IP and then post nothing but losses and expenses from your domestic business.
At least thats how I remember it working.

>> No.44930888

>>44930143
Also I didn't mean it in a bad way. It's about time you stream properly. Gen 4 looking delectable.

>> No.44930956

>woke up
>there's already a new thread and it hit bump limit
This is really the start of a new gen huh

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44930980

I'm very resentful of the "networking" meta. It's pretty much an unspoken follow for follow that just inflates viewership and follower counts, on top of the rampant GOTIS.
Imagine just making content that someone would find interesting

>> No.44931041

>>44930980
NGMI mentality.

>> No.44931050

Who in gen4 is getting into holosanji

>> No.44931060

>>44930888
oh okay i worry that being more positive and cheery about the growth process comes off as annoying so i thought i was being obnoxious

>>44930786
i dont know you like that anon..

>> No.44931087

>>44931050
None of them >:D

>> No.44931120

>>44930697
Jelousy is a killer in this industry, hope you get better xoxo

>> No.44931190

>>44930956
the calm before the storm

>> No.44931191

>>44930980
Nigga nobody wants to collab with your right winged, trump supporting, conspiracy theorist ass

>> No.44931244

Since Gen 4 is finished, I suppose I'll be Gen 5?

>> No.44931302

>>44931244
It's just getting started mate

>> No.44931335

>>44931041
Given that I
1. don't care and do it for the lulz
2. have a real job to fund any materials or tools I need
3. have a expertise in areas beyond masturbation and eating tendies,
I have more odds of making it than most posters

>> No.44931343

Once I get my live2d next month I'm gonna make it.
Having 8-12 watchers as a pngtuber is... kinda great, right? Feel free to beat me to death if it isn't.

>> No.44931359

>>44930980
inflated viewership is just one step to real viewership, you know people are more likely to watch someone with higher numbers so it can very well lead to a real audience

>> No.44931395

>>44931191
You're talking for a lot of people that didn't ask you to speak for them, fatty.

>> No.44931419

>>44931244
what are some gen names for gen 5?

High5 ?

>> No.44931437

>>44931191
that an incorrect statement. the only people dodging me are tofu-soft eurotrash, and in hindsight, I'm better off

>> No.44931446

>>44930980
based on your content, you can pander to the anti-sjw crowd and they'll eat it up like hotcakes, no networking needed. Just put "feminist btfo", "hollywood btfo" or other typical burgerland hot takes and they'll follow you like good sheeps. YT algorithm will do the rest for you

>> No.44931477

>>44930980
>Imagine just making content that someone would find interesting
That's called marketing, anon.

>> No.44931523

>>44931343
why not just make a 3d model? they're a lot easier to manage once you're familiar with the tools for them

>> No.44931549

>>44931419
CloverCorp Gen1

>> No.44931571

>>44930980
you should try following all bones jones i hear he's a pretty based guy

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44931606

>>44931419
Hi-5

>> No.44931688

>>44931523
I already have a commission in the works, so there's no point in me trying something new now when I'm going to change soon.
I feel like going 3d suddenly will make it look like I'm changing my "brand" too much

>> No.44931750

>>44931446
YT has clamped down on political bait. The hardline spice barely gets views compared to normie tripe. e.g. my best performing short is https://youtube.com/shorts/p-9og1psra8?feature=share
a room-temp iq "I'm not gonna sugar coat it" tekken meme

>> No.44931804

>>44931395
KEK

>> No.44931860

>>44931395
>>44931437
Nobody is gonna watch or wanna collab with you because you cant shut the fuck up about owning the libs

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>>44931860

>> No.44931913

>>44931688
well if you ready have it in the works then yeah, no sense in pivoting now

>> No.44931964

>>44931302
I mean the cut off for Gen 4 is over.
I wont debut anytime soon.

>> No.44932047

>>44931964
Of course it's not fucking over are you stupid.

>> No.44932048

>>44931750
Yeah, it's always weird see which of your videos end up getting the most views.

It's always the vid you least expect to be popular.

>> No.44932061 [DELETED] 

>>44931860
stretch before you reach, pleasure girl.
Of you had actually watched my content you'd know how far from the truth you are

>> No.44932060

>>44931903
I was tagging both just in case, but my point still stands.

>> No.44932155

>>44932047
Then when does it end? I dont wanna be a late-Gen4er, I'd rather be one of the first Gen5s

>> No.44932179

>>44931964
gens last for a couple months
gen 1 was like march-may 2021, gen 2 was from july-october 2021, and gen 3 chuubas spanned from like march-june 2022
its only been a few weeks for these new guys

>> No.44932184

>>44931860
stretch before you reach, pleasure girl.
If you had actually watched my content you'd know how far from the truth you are

>> No.44932218

>>44932061
Dont call me girl, I actually have a fetish about being mindbroken by a right winged guy and getting redpilled, then becoming the perfect little housewife for him and just rolling my eyes and laughing when he makes racists comments

>> No.44932283

>>44932218
WOW WOULD YOU LOOK AT THAT PAGE 11 NEW THREAD ALL ABANDON SHIP

>> No.44932284

>>44932179
the fuck happened between june 2022 and the start of 2023

>> No.44932296

>>44932218
wow. this is the most Pick Me comment i ever read

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